Another bad (or not-so-bad) beat story

[cinc...@my-deja.com]

I've been playing 3-6 for about six months with nothing to complain
about. This hand happened to me when I tried a loose 5-10 game with a
kill the other day. In fact, after bouncing up and down, I was about to
change tables when I won a huge hand, but had to stay to play the kill.

Wouldn't you know that, about two to the left of the button, I have
AA. I raise immediately. A young, aggressive guy across from me raises
me back. Naturally I reraise. I think there was still one other person i
the pot but he didn't last long. I'm figuring the guy for Kings, or AKs
or something like that.

The flop is 10 6 4 rainbow. Naturally I bet, thinking about all the
money I'm going to win. He raises! I'm thinking, what the hell? I call.
Maybe he has kings, maybe it's some kind of bluff. . .
Maybe he has the other two aces.

Next card is a Q. Oops. I still bet, not wanting to show my fear.
He calls.

Last card was worthless--some low. I think this time I had the sense
to check. He bets, I calls. He has a pair of tens--thus trips.

Now it still seems incredible to me that anyone would reraise and
call a reraise on two tens. And yet I should, it seems to me, have
saved myself a little money here somewhere by thinking a little earlier.
Or what do you think? Thanks in advance.

Last card is worthless-no pair, no high straight, clearly.

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[Larry Stone]

In article <7trgtl$v5v$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, cinc...@my-deja.com wrote:

> Wouldn't you know that, about two to the left of the button,

Two to the left of the button is the big blind (unless you're in a single
blind game). Since you clearly weren't the BB and I suspect you would have
remembered being under the gun (UTG), I'm sure you were much farther left
of the button than two.

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[cinc...@my-deja.com]

You're right, of course. That was a slip of the keyboard. I was about
two to the left of the big blind; I was the first bettor. so what do you
think?

<lstone-1110...@dsl-216-227-23-33.chi.interchangedsl.com>,

[Thats_hersh_foll...@tc.umn.edu]

In article <7trgtl$v5v$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, <cinc...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>

> Now it still seems incredible to me that anyone would reraise and
>call a reraise on two tens.

Since no one has offered any criticism I will try to spark some
controversy.

I like the raise from the TT in that spot. A lot of people will raise
in early position with hands as weak as AJo. Odds are that you hold
two big cards, not a pocket pair better than TT. By raising he stands a
good chance to isolate you in a pot where he is ahead. Now in hindsight
he wasn't ahead, but in most cases, against most players he would have
been.

Of course when you reraise he has to put you on a pair bigger than TT.
So why does he call?

At that point you have put in 4 bets, he's put in 3. The blinds are
another 1.5 bets and you said there was another caller for part of this.
He's pretty much got odds to call just to make his set, which he did.

>And yet I should, it seems to me, have
>saved myself a little money here somewhere by thinking a little earlier.
>Or what do you think? Thanks in advance.

I don't see how you could have saved money on this hand. I have
rearranged the order of your post a bit here is what you said about the
play of the hand:

> The flop is 10 6 4 rainbow. Naturally I bet, thinking about all the
>money I'm going to win. He raises! I'm thinking, what the hell? I call.
>Maybe he has kings, maybe it's some kind of bluff. . .
>Maybe he has the other two aces.

I might have reraised here to see where I am at. But this costs more
money not less.

> Next card is a Q. Oops. I still bet, not wanting to show my fear.
>He calls.

I might not have bet here (especially if I had reraised and been capped on
the flop) but if not, surely he bets. So it's a wash.

> Last card was worthless--some low. I think this time I had the sense
>to check. He bets, I calls. He has a pair of tens--thus trips.

The probability that he has KK QQ or JJ is just to great to fold given
the size of the pot.

I don't see how you save money on this hand. Surely you aren't
considering folding just because he raised on the flop?

[Elocutus Ironicus]

"Thats_hersh_foll...@tc.umn.edu" wrote:
>
>The probability that he has KK QQ or JJ is just to great to fold given the
>size of the pot.

QQ would have killed you anyway. But, add AQ and ATs to the "feasible
hands" list. You had to call.

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