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Mossingen

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11 Nov 2012, 13:27:2311/11/2012
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My old reliable Outlook Express has died on me, reason unknown. It was so
simple and easy to use. I had to replace it with Windows Live Mail, which
seems to work fine and has a nice layout. I have one issue with it.

When I look at my newsgroup feed, it expands the thread-trees which I like,
but no matter how many times I exit and reload, the old read messages are
still there. I want to make it so the read messages do not appear when I
open it, only the non-read (new) messages. There must be a simple setting
to do this, but I can't find it. Anyone know how to do this?


Clave

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11 Nov 2012, 16:02:3011/11/2012
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"Mossingen" <jhan...@cox.net> wrote in message
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When you're looking at the message threads, from the "View" menu, select
"Sort or hide", then "Hide read messages".

HTH,
Jim



Dutch

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11 Nov 2012, 16:35:0111/11/2012
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If you are in the mood to experiment a bit, I recommend Seamonkey, based
on Mozilla (Firefox). It has an almost identical layout to OE or WLM but
it is much quicker and more responsive. It is comprised of a Browser and
Editor all-in-one, so you just have to go into
Edit/Preferences/Appearance and have it go directly to the
Mail&Newsgroups app when it opens.

Mossingen

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11 Nov 2012, 18:22:0811/11/2012
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"Clave" <ChrisC...@TheMonastery.com> wrote in message
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There is no "View" menu. Where is this "View" menu supposed to be? There
are a row of buttons at the top, but none of them say "View" and I can't see
anything that says View. Where the heck is it?


Jason Pawloski

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11 Nov 2012, 18:38:4711/11/2012
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I'm impressed. You actually did a reasonable job of describing the
problem. This is marked step up from "I'm thinking of this song, it was
real emotional, female singer, anyone know what it is?"

--
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user.

"As a result of my encounter with the Henderson Police SWAT team, I
eventually pled guilty to Conspiracy to Commit a Crime, a gross
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(cite: http://recgroups.com/a/1/127894/)

"I have killed many dogs in my life, and I will kill many more." William
P. Coleman boasting about his sociopathic tendencies (cite:
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"For years, when I see one or more teenaged girls walking down the
street, I pull up beside them and ask them if they want to go smoke
dope and fuck. Amazingly, this technique gets good results fairly
often. Otherwise, I wouldn't continue to use it." Convicted criminal
William Coleman (cite: http://recgroups.com/a/1/123930/)

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Mossingen

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11 Nov 2012, 18:50:0711/11/2012
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"Mossingen" <jhan...@cox.net> wrote in message
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LOL...I've been Googling this issue and found the answer. The toolbar that
has the "View" menu at the top is hidden. I HAD TO PRESS THE "ALT" KEY TO
MAKE IT APPEAR. EXACTLY HOW THE FUCK WOULD I KNOW TO DO THAT UNLESS I
GOOGLED IT??? Sometimes Microsoft drives me crazy. They make the most
simple features so damn difficult to find.


Clave

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11 Nov 2012, 19:00:3511/11/2012
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"Mossingen" <jhan...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Oh damn -- you poor sod. You got the latest Windows Live Mail v2011 with
that damnable ribbon bar. I recommend uninstalling that mess and looking
for the Windows Live Mail v2009 download.

I've been accidentally "upgraded" to 2011 and I hate it so badly that I keep
a copy of the 2009 installation kit in an archive here to undo the "upgrade"
if it happens again.

If you uninstall 2011 and re-install 2009, your settings should be
preserved, at least.

In any case, in 2011 the view options are still there, but they're hidden
somewhere behind all that new stuff.

Good luck.

Jim



Dutch

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11 Nov 2012, 19:07:2011/11/2012
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Mossingen wrote:

> LOL...I've been Googling this issue and found the answer. The toolbar that
> has the "View" menu at the top is hidden. I HAD TO PRESS THE "ALT" KEY TO
> MAKE IT APPEAR. EXACTLY HOW THE FUCK WOULD I KNOW TO DO THAT UNLESS I
> GOOGLED IT??? Sometimes Microsoft drives me crazy. They make the most
> simple features so damn difficult to find.

Nobody knows anything anymore, you don't need to when you have Google at
your fingertips. My wife asked me last night why every time she types
(s) it turns into a crescent moon icon (try it) and how to stop it,
Google is the answer.

And I'm tellin' ya, try SeaMonkey.

Clave

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11 Nov 2012, 19:12:5411/11/2012
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"Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote in message news:k7pem2$vkp$1...@dont-email.me...
"Never memorize what you can look up in a book."
-- Einstein


> And I'm tellin' ya, try SeaMonkey.

Somehow I don't think you mean http://www.seamonkey.com/

Jim


Dutch

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11 Nov 2012, 20:13:3911/11/2012
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HA! Who'da thunk?

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/

Clave

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11 Nov 2012, 20:20:0311/11/2012
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"Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote in message news:k7piic$mc5$1...@dont-email.me...

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> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/

I hadn't heard about that part of Mozilla before. I'll check it out.

Jim





Dutch

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11 Nov 2012, 20:40:1411/11/2012
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SeaMonkey Mail&Newsgroups is to WLM as carrying a smartphone is to
lugging around an old laptop. I don't know why MS could not create a
more nimble pop/nntp app.

Clave

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11 Nov 2012, 21:11:5011/11/2012
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"Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote in message news:k7pk48$ubi$1...@dont-email.me...

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> SeaMonkey Mail&Newsgroups is to WLM as carrying a smartphone is to lugging
> around an old laptop. I don't know why MS could not create a more nimble
> pop/nntp app.

The obvious answer is that they didn't want to, hence the horrible, clumsy
rip from OE.

I only use WLM because I was used to OE, and it does everything I need it
to.

But I swear, there's a special place in hell reserved for whoever
greenlighted the 2011 ribbon bar, because it's in all the Office 2012 apps
now.

Jim
Jim



halfpastdead

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12 Nov 2012, 06:57:0512/11/2012
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just do what i do .. ask a 13 year old kid .. they know all that stuff


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popinjay999

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12 Nov 2012, 10:25:4212/11/2012
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See how Clave and Dutch offered you all kinds of interesting and
informed advice? They wouldn't have done that if it were me asking
the same exact question, I guarantee it. Partisan, envious, hacks,
the both of them. They're very small, shallow, etc.

FL Turbo

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12 Nov 2012, 21:11:2812/11/2012
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 17:50:07 -0600, "Mossingen" <jhan...@cox.net>
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Yeah they do.
What's worse, every new "upgrade" moves shit around so much that you
play hell to find where your familiar options have landed.

I suspect that there is such a bloat of existing code that programmers
have to resort to putting options not where it makes sense, but where
it can find a home that doesn't break existing code.
Convenient for the programmers, but not for us poor, dumb slobs that
are locked into Word.

I've used Word for close to 15 years now.
I hated it to start with, and I still hate it.

But waddya gonna do about it except bitch, rant, whine and moan?

Tim Norfolk

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13 Nov 2012, 09:19:2013/11/2012
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