OT- Question for Bedwetting Wingnuts
OrangeSFO
needle in a federal prison courtesy of successful trial and conviction
by the US Dept of Justice under President Barack Obama?
You should start preparing your objections now.
mo_charles
where'd we get the million for the execution? how can a civilized society
do this? it must be because he's an arab!
mo_charles
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brewmaster
I object to spending all the money and putting NY in danger of terrorist
attacks. Why don't we just shoot him in Guantanamo and dump his body in
the ocean? I mean, Eric Holder already said "he's so obviously guilty" so
why have a trial?
Brew
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susan
"brewmaster" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Nov 19 2009 11:03 AM, OrangeSFO wrote:
>
>> What are you going to say on the day Khalid Sheik Mohammed gets the
>> needle in a federal prison courtesy of successful trial and conviction
>> by the US Dept of Justice under President Barack Obama?
>>
>> You should start preparing your objections now.
>
> I object to spending all the money and putting NY in danger of terrorist
> attacks. Why don't we just shoot him in Guantanamo and dump his body in
> the ocean? I mean, Eric Holder already said "he's so obviously guilty" so
> why have a trial?
O said HE IS GUILTY and will get the death sentence.
arnold snarb
trial
has any basis in the argument of whether the trial should be taking place in
the
first place.
"OrangeSFO" <intang...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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JerseyRudy
> On Nov 19 2009 11:03 AM, OrangeSFO wrote:
>
> > What are you going to say on the day Khalid Sheik Mohammed gets the
> > needle in a federal prison courtesy of successful trial and conviction
> > by the US Dept of Justice under President Barack Obama?
> >
> > You should start preparing your objections now.
>
> I object to spending all the money and putting NY in danger of terrorist
> attacks. Why don't we just shoot him in Guantanamo and dump his body in
> the ocean? I mean, Eric Holder already said "he's so obviously guilty" so
> why have a trial?
>
>
> Brew
> --
> Hatred is purity...weakness is disease!
> FEAR - Foreign Policy
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOCcbKAhlY0
yep, that's good thinking.
Why don't we come up with a list of all the people who have been charged
with a crime that we know are guilty, and we can save millions by not
having to have trials.
It might seem to some like we are regressing to the ways of the
Inquisition, but in reality it is a new way of thinking about concepts
such as due process and human rights. Brilliant!
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garycarson
> What are you going to say on the day Khalid Sheik Mohammed gets the
> needle in a federal prison courtesy of successful trial and conviction
> by the US Dept of Justice under President Barack Obama?
>
A potential source of intelligence information destroyed for political
theater.
ChrisRobin
> yep, that's good thinking.
>
> Why don't we come up with a list of all the people who have been charged
> with a crime that we know are guilty, and we can save millions by not
> having to have trials.
>
> It might seem to some like we are regressing to the ways of the
> Inquisition, but in reality it is a new way of thinking about concepts
> such as due process and human rights. Brilliant!
Indeed. Another conservative who claims to want the federal government out
of the daily lives of everyday citizens, but also wants to give it the
absolute power to play cop, judge, jury and executioner.
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Alim Nassor
What are your arguments as to why President Obama continues to hunt
down and kill other "defendants" without benefit of a trial?
Irish Mike
> On Nov 19 2009 11:03 AM, OrangeSFO wrote:
>
> > What are you going to say on the day Khalid Sheik Mohammed gets the
> > needle in a federal prison courtesy of successful trial and conviction
> > by the US Dept of Justice under President Barack Obama?
> >
> > You should start preparing your objections now.
>
> I object to spending all the money and putting NY in danger of terrorist
> attacks. Why don't we just shoot him in Guantanamo and dump his body in
> the ocean? I mean, Eric Holder already said "he's so obviously guilty" so
> why have a trial?
>
> Brew
So Obama can sling some more mud at President Bush and our CIA. In
addition, it will provide al Queada, Hezbollah, Hamas and the Taliban with
an international media platform and a better recruiting tool than they
could have ever dreamed of having without Obama's help. BTW, KSM already
plead guilty at a military hearing and was about to be tried by a military
tribunal that was authorized by Congress. The estimated cost of having
this totally unnecessary show trial in NYC is $75 million.
Irish Mike
President Obama has decided to send 40,000 additional troops to fight in
the war against Fox News.
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Irish Mike
> maybe im off base - but i'm missing the point of why the outcome of the
> trial
> has any basis in the argument of whether the trial should be taking place in
> the
> first place.
KSM already plead guilty at a military hearing and was set to be tried in
a military tribunal.
Obama had the trial moved to NYC so they can sling some more mud at
President Bush and our CIA, while diverting the public's attention away
from record deficits and 10.2% unemployment. BTW, this totally
unnecessary NYC show trial is estimated to cost tax payers $75 million.
On a brighter note, it will be an excellent recruiting tool for al Queada,
Hamas, Hezbollah and the Taliban.
Irish Mike
Obama has decided to send 40,000 additional troops to fight in the war
against Fox News.
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OrangeSFO
"Defendants"?
Are charging terrorists in absentia, then assassinating them before
trial?
I hadnt heard...
Irish Mike
I think Obama has firmly claimed the role of judge, jury and executioner.
In an interview yesterday he said the American people need not worry
because KSM will be convicted and have the death penalty applied to him.
Of course when the reporter called Obama out on this, Obama lied through
his teeth and said "I did not say 'when' I said 'if' ". Which was clearly
a lie because they had him on video tape saying it just a couple of
seconds prior to that. Hell they even showed Obama getting caught in that
lie on MSNBC. Point is, if Obama has already decided that the guy is
guilty and will get the death penalty, it makes his idiotic decision to
move the trial to NYC even more ridiculous. Obama claims that the reason
he is moving the trial to NYC is to show the world how fair our justice
system is. Well how fair is it when the President has already declared
that the guy is going to be found guilty and get the death penalty. This
whole political "show trial" by Obama is a fucking disgrace.
Irish Mike
Obama has decided to send 40,000 additional troops to fight in the war
against Fox News.
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Alim Nassor
Nope, but they are hunting down and killing terrorists in
Afghanistan. Why aren't they being brought to trial?
Alim Nassor
And didn't Holder say that even if KSM is aquitted he would never be
set free?
gtech1
you?
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Irish Mike
> No, not even charging. Just hunting with Predator drones. Is that ok by
> you?
If you are America's enemy, and you are killing Americans, I want you dead
and the sooner you get that way the better I like it.
Irish Mike
Obama has decided to send 40,000 additional troops to fight in the war
against Fox News.
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risky biz
Brewmaster's a classic, isn't he? Then there's this guy:
War not conservative (Rep. John J. Duncan)
By Rep. John J. Duncan, Jr. (R-Tenn.) - 11/18/09 12:04 PM ET
There is nothing conservative about the war in Afghanistan. The Center for
Defense Information said a few months ago that we had spent over $400
billion on the war and war-related costs there. Now, the Pentagon says it
will cost about $1 billion for each 1,000 additional troops we send to
Afghanistan. One Republican Member from California told me recently that
we could buy off every warlord in Afghanistan for $1 billion.
Fiscal conservatives should be the ones most horrified by all this
spending. Conservatives who oppose big government and huge deficit
spending at home should not support it in foreign countries just because
it is being done by our biggest bureaucracy, the Defense Department.
We have now spent $1.5 trillion that we did not have--that we had to
borrow--in Iraq and Afghanistan. Eight years is long enough. In fact, it
is too long. Let's bring our troops home and start putting Americans first
once again.
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/politics/68365-war-not-conservative-rep-john-j-duncan
risky biz
You're actually having a relevant thought there, Alim.
mo_charles
> > In an interview yesterday he said the American people need not worry
> > because KSM will be convicted and have the death penalty applied to him.
> > Of course when the reporter called Obama out on this, Obama lied through
> > his teeth and said "I did not say 'when' I said 'if' ". �Which was clearly
> > a lie because they had him on video tape saying it just a couple of
> > seconds prior to that. �Hell they even showed Obama getting caught in that
> > lie on MSNBC. �Point is, if Obama has already decided that the guy is
> > guilty and will get the death penalty, it makes his idiotic decision to
> > move the trial to NYC even more ridiculous. �Obama claims that the reason
> > he is moving the trial to NYC is to show the world how fair our justice
> > system is. �Well how fair is it when the President has already declared
> > that the guy is going to be found guilty and get the death penalty. �This
> > whole political "show trial" by Obama is a fucking disgrace.
>
> set free?
every leftwinger on the planet's been saying this. if he skips on these
charges, they'll drum up more. the game's obvious, and it has absolutely
nothing to do with respect for rights and the system.
mo_charles
mo_charles
> > needle in a federal prison courtesy of successful trial and conviction
> > by the US Dept of Justice under President Barack Obama?
> >
> > You should start preparing your objections now.
>
> What are your arguments as to why President Obama continues to hunt
> down and kill other "defendants" without benefit of a trial?
he won't answer this; none of them will. that's what happens when you
trot out a lame political defense for every mistake an idiot in washington
makes, you end up with no principles. it's all just garbage to "win" some
meaningless game at the expense of the long-term viability of the nation.
mo_charles
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Alim Nassor
Like my daddy always said, even a blind hog finds an acorn now and
then.
RGP Loner
> On Nov 20, 5:48�am, "risky biz" <risky-...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > On Nov 19 2009 6:21 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> > > On Nov 20, 3:03�am, OrangeSFO <intangible...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > What are you going to say on the day Khalid Sheik Mohammed gets the
> > > > needle in a federal prison courtesy of successful trial and conviction
> > > > by the US Dept of Justice under President Barack Obama?
> >
> > > You should start preparing your objections now.
> >
> > > What are your arguments as to why President Obama continues to hunt
> > > down and kill other "defendants" without benefit of a trial?
> >
> > You're actually having a relevant thought there, Alim.
> >
> Like my daddy always said, even a blind hog finds an acorn now and
> then.
THAT IS PRETTY FUNNY ...
AND IT IS EASY TO SEE THAT THE ACORN DON'T FALL FAR FROM THE TREE,..
BUT YOU KNOW THAT... CAUSE YOUR DADDY SAID THE SAME THING. AT LEAST
YOUR MOMMY SAID IT WAS YOUR DADDY ..
BUT WHAT DOES SHE KNOW???
DO YOU KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING ?
By the way ...Which one is Pink?
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Jerry Sturdivant
"Irish Mike"
> So Obama can sling some more mud
> at President Bush and our CIA.
That would be the President that violated our Constitution; approved a,
"Round up anybody that looks guilty," "Offer a bounty," then torture and
waterboard until they confess or die.
> In addition, it will provide al Queada, Hezbollah, Hamas and
> the Taliban with an international media platform and a better
> recruiting tool
Oh, gee. They can't recruit now, can they? Showing they'll be tried and
executed doesn't count?
> BTW, KSM already plead guilty at a military hearing and was
> about to be tried by a military tribunal that was authorized by
> Congress.
Gee, waterborded 200 times. I (and the world) wonder why he confessed.
> The estimated cost of having this totally
> unnecessary show trial in NYC is $75 million.
Oh, NOW it's about money. When Cheney's Halliburton 'lost track of' over $1
BILLION dollars and your Republicans blocked the Democrats from
investigating; what did you say?
> Obama had the trial moved to NYC so they can sling
> some more mud at President Bush and our CIA
Correct idiot Bush's illegal actions? Gee, too bad. Now the world will see
America straighten out Bush's fuckup.
> I think Obama has firmly claimed the
> role of judge, jury and executioner.
Yea, right, by having a trial, rather than executing him like you said he
could.
Ya, know; you're a fucking idiot hack.
Jerry 'n Vegas
- I love defenseless animals, especially in a good gravy.
Jerry Sturdivant
>> What are your arguments as to why President Obama
>> continues to hunt down and kill other "defendants"
>> without benefit of a trial?
I suggest you look up the word terrorist. Because you're fighting Americans
in your own country does not make you a terrorists. It makes the Americans
the terrorists. Learn the difference.
Jerry 'n Vegas
- Look, Conservatives! I guess we'll have to shoot our way out!
mo_charles
> >> continues to hunt down and kill other "defendants"
> >> without benefit of a trial?
>
> I suggest you look up the word terrorist. Because you're fighting Americans
> in your own country does not make you a terrorists. It makes the Americans
> the terrorists. Learn the difference.
free ksm in the canadian woods, then kill him.
mo_charles
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JerseyRudy
more brilliance from our right-wing RGP friends!
Either hunt down and kill ALL the terrorists, or bring them ALL to trial
in federal court. It has to be one extreme or the other. It can't be a
mixture of the two depending on the facts and circumstances of each case.
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Alim Nassor
>
> - Show quoted text -
I have no idea what that rambling incoherent post was attempting to
say.
Alim Nassor
The American men and women doing the fighting and dying in
Afghanistan tracking down the asswipes of Al-Qaeda are not
terrorists. We now see just how fucked you really are.
Alim Nassor
>
> - Show quoted text -
Consistency is a foreign idea to you? If KSM is afforded all the
rights allowed to criminal defendants, how can you justify shooting to
kill others just like him?
mo_charles
> > in your own country does not make you a terrorists. It makes the Americans
> > the terrorists. Learn the difference.
>
> Afghanistan tracking down the asswipes of Al-Qaeda are not
> terrorists. We now see just how fucked you really are.
somebody forgot to feed jerry this morning. maybe when orange is done
cleaning the algae off the fish tanks, he'll get around to it.
mo_charles
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JerseyRudy
> On Nov 20, 10:36�am, "JerseyRudy" <a44f...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> > On Nov 20 2009 12:14 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Nov 20, 10:23�am, OrangeSFO <intangible...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > On Nov 19, 5:21�pm, Alim Nassor <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Nov 20, 3:03�am, OrangeSFO <intangible...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > What are you going to say on the day Khalid Sheik Mohammed gets the
> > > > > > needle in a federal prison courtesy of successful trial and
conviction
> > > > > > by the US Dept of Justice under President Barack Obama?
> >
> > > > > > You should start preparing your objections now.
> >
> > > > > What are your arguments as to why President Obama continues to hunt
> > > > > down and kill other "defendants" without benefit of a trial?
> >
> > > > "Defendants"?
> >
> > > > Are charging terrorists in absentia, then assassinating them before
> > > > trial?
> >
> > > > I hadnt heard...
> >
> > > Nope, but they are hunting down and killing terrorists in
> > > Afghanistan. �Why aren't they being brought to trial?
> >
> > more brilliance from our right-wing RGP friends!
> >
> > Either hunt down and kill ALL the terrorists, or bring them ALL to trial
> > in federal court. It has to be one extreme or the other. It can't be a
> > mixture of the two depending on the facts and circumstances of each case.
> >
> - Show quoted text -
>
> Consistency is a foreign idea to you? If KSM is afforded all the
> rights allowed to criminal defendants, how can you justify shooting to
> kill others just like him?
"Consistency" as you call it, is the hobgoblin of little minds. Ralph
Waldo Emerson.
In order to answer your question, you need to tell me which other
terrorist suspects have been shot by the United States while in custody.
That is the key difference between KSM and the terrorists who have been
killed as part of military operations in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq.
KSM was captured alive in Pakistan. he was taken into custody. If you
believe the Bush Administration, the US got useful intelligence from him
during his interrogation.
Are you suggesting that we now shoot him and dump him in a ditch? If not,
then we need to put him on trial under US law. The only question was
whether to try him in civilian court or military court...either way he
would be facing a jury who could acquit him after hearing the evidence.
What you appear to be suggesting (killing him on the spot without a trial)
is not even something that right-wingers are publically advocating.
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brewmaster
> "Irish Mike"
>
>
> > So Obama can sling some more mud
> > at President Bush and our CIA.
>
> That would be the President that violated our Constitution; approved a,
> "Round up anybody that looks guilty," "Offer a bounty," then torture and
> waterboard until they confess or die.
>
>
> > In addition, it will provide al Queada, Hezbollah, Hamas and
> > the Taliban with an international media platform and a better
> > recruiting tool
>
> Oh, gee. They can't recruit now, can they? Showing they'll be tried and
> executed doesn't count?
>
>
> > BTW, KSM already plead guilty at a military hearing and was
> > about to be tried by a military tribunal that was authorized by
> > Congress.
>
> Gee, waterborded 200 times. I (and the world) wonder why he confessed.
>
>
> > The estimated cost of having this totally
> > unnecessary show trial in NYC is $75 million.
>
> Oh, NOW it's about money. When Cheney's Halliburton 'lost track of' over $1
> BILLION dollars and your Republicans blocked the Democrats from
> investigating; what did you say?
So two wrongs make a right?
>
>
> > Obama had the trial moved to NYC so they can sling
> > some more mud at President Bush and our CIA
>
> Correct idiot Bush's illegal actions? Gee, too bad. Now the world will see
> America straighten out Bush's fuckup.
>
>
> > I think Obama has firmly claimed the
> > role of judge, jury and executioner.
>
> Yea, right, by having a trial, rather than executing him like you said he
> could.
>
> Ya, know; you're a fucking idiot hack.
>
>
> Jerry 'n Vegas
>
> - I love defenseless animals, especially in a good gravy.
Brew
--
Hatred is purity...weakness is disease!
FEAR - Foreign Policy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOCcbKAhlY0
ChrisRobin
> every leftwinger on the planet's been saying this. if he skips on these
> charges, they'll drum up more. the game's obvious, and it has absolutely
> nothing to do with respect for rights and the system.
Has it ever? The system doesn't exist to enforce "rights" or "justice,"
it's there to reinforce the existing power structure. This isn't exactly a
new phenomenon, and it doesn't have anything to do with partisanship. If
you fail to grasp this, then you have a profound misunderstanding of how
this country's political system works.
Given your obsession with slinging juvenile partisan attacks, though, I
guess this isn't exactly news.
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ChrisRobin
> So Obama can sling some more mud at President Bush and our CIA. In
> addition, it will provide al Queada, Hezbollah, Hamas and the Taliban with
> an international media platform and a better recruiting tool than they
> could have ever dreamed of having without Obama's help. BTW, KSM already
> plead guilty at a military hearing and was about to be tried by a military
> tribunal that was authorized by Congress. The estimated cost of having
> this totally unnecessary show trial in NYC is $75 million.
Yeah, I can't imagine how those two wars you enthusiastically support
could prove to be huge recruiting tools for the terrorists. I'm sure
they're much more outraged by KSM's trial. You moron.
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mo_charles
> > charges, they'll drum up more. the game's obvious, and it has absolutely
> > nothing to do with respect for rights and the system.
>
> Has it ever? The system doesn't exist to enforce "rights" or "justice,"
> it's there to reinforce the existing power structure. This isn't exactly a
> new phenomenon, and it doesn't have anything to do with partisanship. If
> you fail to grasp this, then you have a profound misunderstanding of how
> this country's political system works.
>
> Given your obsession with slinging juvenile partisan attacks, though, I
> guess this isn't exactly news.
a juvenile would believe this bullshit about hope and change. a juvenile
would think obama's one scintilla of an iota different than anybody else
clawing for power and money in washington.
mo_charles
ChrisRobin
> On Nov 20, 3:03�am, OrangeSFO <intangible...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > What are you going to say on the day Khalid Sheik Mohammed gets the
> > needle in a federal prison courtesy of successful trial and conviction
> > by the US Dept of Justice under President Barack Obama?
> >
> > You should start preparing your objections now.
>
> What are your arguments as to why President Obama continues to hunt
> down and kill other "defendants" without benefit of a trial?
It's indefensible, and unquestionably illegal under any reasonable
standard of international law. That a Democrat is currently in power
doesn't make it any more or less so.
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OrangeSFO
> > What are your arguments as to why President Obama continues to hunt
> > down and kill other "defendants" without benefit of a trial?
How are they "defendants"?
KSM is a charged conspirator in a crime committed on US soil.
mo_charles
if the kenyan told you your ass was your elbow, you dumb motherfuckers
would carve it into tablets.
mo_charles
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JerseyRudy
> > > > What are your arguments as to why President Obama continues to hunt
> > > > down and kill other "defendants" without benefit of a trial?
> >
> > How are they "defendants"?
> >
> > KSM is a charged conspirator in a crime committed on US soil.
>
> if the kenyan told you your ass was your elbow, you dumb motherfuckers
> would carve it into tablets.
>
> mo_charles
Your position on any issue can be summed up by this overriding truth: you
hate having to call "the kenyan" Mr. President.
There must be a Klan meeting starting soon that would prevent this from
being a total waste of a day for you.
mo_charles
> > would carve it into tablets.
>
> hate having to call "the kenyan" Mr. President.
>
> There must be a Klan meeting starting soon that would prevent this from
> being a total waste of a day for you.
on your knees, rudy. suck that COCK!
mo_charles
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JerseyRudy
> > > if the kenyan told you your ass was your elbow, you dumb motherfuckers
> > > would carve it into tablets.
> >
> > Your position on any issue can be summed up by this overriding truth: you
> > hate having to call "the kenyan" Mr. President.
> >
> > There must be a Klan meeting starting soon that would prevent this from
> > being a total waste of a day for you.
>
> on your knees, rudy. suck that COCK!
>
> mo_charles
you betcha! right after you put on your hood and burn that cross on the
White House lawn. Take back America!
Jerry Sturdivant
"brewmaster"
>>> The estimated cost of having this totally
>>> unnecessary show trial in NYC is $75 million.
>> Oh, NOW it's about money. When Cheney's Halliburton 'lost track
>> of' over $1 BILLION dollars and your Republicans blocked the
>> Democrats from investigating; what did you say?
> So two wrongs make a right?
Having a trial is wrong?
Jerry 'n Vegas
- Think hard now. Which one is Shinola?
Jerry Sturdivant
"Alim Nassor"
>>> What are your arguments as to why President Obama
>>> continues to hunt down and kill other "defendants"
>>> without benefit of a trial?
>> I suggest you look up the word terrorist. Because you're
>> fighting Americans in your own country does not make
>> you a terrorists. It makes the Americans the terrorists.
>> Learn the difference.
> The American men and women doing the fighting and dying in
> Afghanistan tracking down the asswipes of Al-Qaeda are not
> terrorists.
They are to al-Qaeda.
> We now see just how fucked you really are.
Like I said, there are Insurgents; counterinsurgents; soldiers; terrorists
and patriots. Learn the difference.
Jerry 'n Vegas
- Trust government as far as you can overthrow it
OrangeSFO
> on your knees, rudy. suck that COCK!
Notice how quickly these wingnuts lapse into indulging their homo-
erotic fantasies?
It's interesting how eagerly they "go there."
What do you suppose it means?
JerseyRudy
It means Congressman Foley still has a shot at making a comeback. His
base is viable.
Although Foley seemed to prefer teenagers. Mo Charles seems to have a
thing for the President's package....Mo wants a real man!
brewmaster
> "brewmaster"
>
>
>
> >>> The estimated cost of having this totally
> >>> unnecessary show trial in NYC is $75 million.
>
> >> Oh, NOW it's about money. When Cheney's Halliburton 'lost track
> >> of' over $1 BILLION dollars and your Republicans blocked the
> >> Democrats from investigating; what did you say?
>
> > So two wrongs make a right?
>
> Having a trial is wrong?
In this case, obviously yes.
>
>
> Jerry 'n Vegas
>
> - Think hard now. Which one is Shinola?
Brew
--
Hatred is purity...weakness is disease!
FEAR - Foreign Policy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOCcbKAhlY0
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brewmaster
> On Nov 20 2009 4:51 PM, OrangeSFO wrote:
>
> > On Nov 20, 12:33�pm, "mo_charles" <harrybal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > on your knees, rudy. �suck that COCK!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Notice how quickly these wingnuts lapse into indulging their homo-
> > erotic fantasies?
> >
> > It's interesting how eagerly they "go there."
> >
> > What do you suppose it means?
>
> It means Congressman Foley still has a shot at making a comeback. His
> base is viable.
>
> Although Foley seemed to prefer teenagers. Mo Charles seems to have a
> thing for the President's package....Mo wants a real man!
At least Foley doesn't let his boyfriend run a whorehouse and grow pot at
his home.
Brew
--
Hatred is purity...weakness is disease!
FEAR - Foreign Policy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOCcbKAhlY0
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brewmaster
If they were hunting Israelis it would be fine with your though, huh?
Brew
--
Hatred is purity...weakness is disease!
FEAR - Foreign Policy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOCcbKAhlY0
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James L. Hankins
"mo_charles" <harry...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> he won't answer this; none of them will. that's what happens when you
> trot out a lame political defense for every mistake an idiot in washington
> makes, you end up with no principles. it's all just garbage to "win" some
> meaningless game at the expense of the long-term viability of the nation.
Obama is going to regret going down this road. Very foolish decision.
FL Turbo
<jer...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>"Alim Nassor"
>
>
>>>> What are your arguments as to why President Obama
>>>> continues to hunt down and kill other "defendants"
>>>> without benefit of a trial?
>
>>> I suggest you look up the word terrorist. Because you're
>>> fighting Americans in your own country does not make
>>> you a terrorists. It makes the Americans the terrorists.
>>> Learn the difference.
>
>> The American men and women doing the fighting and dying in
>> Afghanistan tracking down the asswipes of Al-Qaeda are not
>> terrorists.
>
>They are to al-Qaeda.
>
So you are now on the side of al Qaeda?
I kind of suspected that about you, but I wasn't sure until now.
Okay
You're free to pick a side.
Alim Nassor
>
> - Show quoted text -
The point is Rudy, if we are treating terrorists like criminals, how
do we justify shooting to kill and hunting them down without giving
them the benefit to trial? We don't do that to other criminals.
Alim Nassor
The point is, the Bush administration treated the situation, rightly I
might add, as a military matter, not a criminal matter. Obama
deciding to treat KSM as a criminal is a mistake and calls into
question using the military in any way against terrorism.
Alim Nassor
Ok, would you feel better if I had used the word "suspects"?
Pepe Papon
<a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>> > The estimated cost of having this totally
>> > unnecessary show trial in NYC is $75 million.
>>
>> Oh, NOW it's about money. When Cheney's Halliburton 'lost track of' over $1
>> BILLION dollars and your Republicans blocked the Democrats from
>> investigating; what did you say?
>
>So two wrongs make a right?
The only wrong in the above post concerns Halliburton. Making money
an issue in the trial is pure hypocrisy.
--
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Alim Nassor
I know the difference. As you said it depends which side you are on.
We can clearly see which side YOU are on.
ramashiva
> On Nov 20, 12:40 pm, "JerseyRudy" <a44f...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> > On Nov 20 2009 12:16 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> > > On Nov 20, 10:36 am, "JerseyRudy" <a44f...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> > > > On Nov 20 2009 12:14 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> > > > > On Nov 20, 10:23 am, OrangeSFO <intangible...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On Nov 19, 5:21 pm, Alim Nassor <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > On Nov 20, 3:03 am, OrangeSFO <intangible...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > What are you going to say on the day Khalid Sheik Mohammed gets the
> > > > > > > > needle in a federal prison courtesy of successful trial and conviction
> > > > > > > > by the US Dept of Justice under President Barack Obama?
> > > > > > > > You should start preparing your objections now.
> > > > > > > What are your arguments as to why President Obama continues to hunt
> > > > > > > down and kill other "defendants" without benefit of a trial?
> > > > > > "Defendants"?
> > > > > > Are charging terrorists in absentia, then assassinating them before
> > > > > > trial?
> > > > > > I hadnt heard...
> > > > > Nope, but they are hunting down and killing terrorists in
> > > > > Afghanistan. Why aren't they being brought to trial?
> > > > more brilliance from our right-wing RGP friends!
> > > > Either hunt down and kill ALL the terrorists, or bring them ALL to trial
> > > > in federal court. It has to be one extreme or the other. It can't be a
> > > > mixture of the two depending on the facts and circumstances of each case.
> > > Consistency is a foreign idea to you? If KSM is afforded all the
> > > rights allowed to criminal defendants, how can you justify shooting to
> > > kill others just like him?
> > "Consistency" as you call it, is the hobgoblin of little minds. Ralph
> > Waldo Emerson.
> > In order to answer your question, you need to tell me which other
> > terrorist suspects have been shot by the United States while in custody.
> > That is the key difference between KSM and the terrorists who have been
> > killed as part of military operations in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq.
> > KSM was captured alive in Pakistan. he was taken into custody. If you
> > believe the Bush Administration, the US got useful intelligence from him
> > during his interrogation.
> > Are you suggesting that we now shoot him and dump him in a ditch? If not,
> > then we need to put him on trial under US law. The only question was
> > whether to try him in civilian court or military court...either way he
> > would be facing a jury who could acquit him after hearing the evidence.
> > What you appear to be suggesting (killing him on the spot without a trial)
> > is not even something that right-wingers are publically advocating.
> The point is Rudy, if we are treating terrorists like criminals, how
> do we justify shooting to kill and hunting them down without giving
> them the benefit to trial? We don't do that to other criminals.
That's the whole point. We shouldn't be hunting down and killing
people without benefit of trial. That is a war crime. You are only
allowed to do that against military forces of state with whom you are
at war. Surely you recognize that many innocent people get killed in
these attacks against terrorists, insurgents, whatever you want to
call them. The whole point is that the military becomes the judge,
jury, and executioner.
The Afghanistan/Pakistan War against Taliban/Al Qaeda is doomed to
failure. We should get the fuck out of their immediately, otherwise
we will wind up in the quagmire of fighting 40 million Pashtuns who
strongly support Taliban/Al Qaeda.
That would be what General McArthur advised against -- getting
involved in a land war in Asia.
Conventional military forces like the U.S. Army and U. S. Marine
Corps, as well as the IDF, are not well suited to dealing with
asymmetrical non-state actors like Hezbollah, Hamas, Taliban, and Al
Qaeda.
ESPECIALLY when the non-state actor has strong support from the local
population, as Hezbollah did in the Israel/Hezbollah War in Lebanon.
As soon as that conflict started, I immediately started posting that
Israel would not defeat Hezbollah, nor would they succeed in driving
Hezbollah back from the border a significant distance. For my 100%
accurate predictions, I was labelled an Israel hater. This is pretty
absurd, since I strongly support Israel. Friends tell other friends
when they are making mistakes.
Anyway, there is no doubt that both Taliban and Al Qaeda have strong
support from 40 million Pashtuns on both sides of the Afghanistan/
Pakistan border.
Even 500,000 troops could not win this war. It's unwinnable, and it
will suck trillions of dollars and thousands of lives from the USA
with no positive benefit in the end.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
brewmaster
But, but...he found a way to blame it all on Eric Holder, even though
Holder didn't have the authority to take this from the Military (only the
president has that authority). Oh well, Obama won't get blamed by anybody
but Fox news, and all the libs will ignore it and continue sucking his
dick.
Brew
--
Hatred is purity...weakness is disease!
FEAR - Foreign Policy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOCcbKAhlY0
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brewmaster
> On Nov 20, 9:20�ｿｽam, "RGP Loner" <aaaa...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> > On Nov 20 2009 5:22 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Nov 20, 5:48�ｿｽam, "risky biz" <risky-...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > > On Nov 19 2009 6:21 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Nov 20, 3:03�ｿｽam, OrangeSFO <intangible...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > What are you going to say on the day Khalid Sheik Mohammed gets the
> > > > > > needle in a federal prison courtesy of successful trial and
conviction
> > > > > > by the US Dept of Justice under President Barack Obama?
> >
> > > �ｿｽ> > You should start preparing your objections now.
> >
> > > > > What are your arguments as to why President Obama continues to hunt
> > > > > down and kill other "defendants" without benefit of a trial?
> >
> > > > You're actually having a relevant thought there, Alim.
> >
> > > Like my daddy always said, even a blind hog finds an acorn now and
> > > then.
> >
> > THAT IS PRETTY FUNNY ...
> >
> > AND IT IS EASY TO SEE THAT THE ACORN DON'T FALL FAR FROM THE TREE,..
> >
> > �ｿｽ BUT YOU KNOW THAT... CAUSE YOUR DADDY SAID THE SAME THING. �ｿｽ �ｿｽAT LEAST
> > YOUR MOMMY SAID IT WAS YOUR DADDY ..
> > BUT WHAT DOES SHE KNOW???
> >
> > DO YOU KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING ?
> >
> > By the way ...Which one is Pink?
> >
> - Show quoted text -
>
> I have no idea what that rambling incoherent post was attempting to
> say.
boise has never posted anything that isn't rambling and incoherent. I
think he eats lsd for breakfast.
Brew
--
Hatred is purity...weakness is disease!
FEAR - Foreign Policy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOCcbKAhlY0
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brewmaster
> > > terrorist suspects have been shot by the United States while in custody..
> > > That is the key difference between KSM and the terrorists who have been
> > > killed as part of military operations in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq..
>
> > > KSM was captured alive in Pakistan. he was taken into custody. If you
> > > believe the Bush Administration, the US got useful intelligence from him
> > > during his interrogation.
>
> > > Are you suggesting that we now shoot him and dump him in a ditch? �If
not,
> > > then we need to put him on trial under US law. �The only question was
> > > whether to try him in civilian court or military court...either way he
> > > would be facing a jury who could acquit him after hearing the evidence.
> > > What you appear to be suggesting (killing him on the spot without a
trial)
> > > is not even something that right-wingers are publically advocating.
>
> > The point is Rudy, if we are treating terrorists like criminals, how
> > do we justify shooting to kill and hunting them down without giving
> > them the benefit to trial? �We don't do that to other criminals.
>
> That's the whole point. We shouldn't be hunting down and killing
> people without benefit of trial. That is a war crime. You are only
> allowed to do that against military forces of state with whom you are
> at war. Surely you recognize that many innocent people get killed in
> these attacks against terrorists, insurgents, whatever you want to
> call them. The whole point is that the military becomes the judge,
> jury, and executioner.
>
Fuck 'em. I advocate the neutron bomb on Afghanistan.
Brew
--
Hatred is purity...weakness is disease!
FEAR - Foreign Policy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOCcbKAhlY0
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Irish Mike
> On Nov 20 2009 6:38 AM, mo_charles wrote:
>
> > every leftwinger on the planet's been saying this. if he skips on these
> > charges, they'll drum up more. the game's obvious, and it has absolutely
> > nothing to do with respect for rights and the system.
>
> Has it ever? The system doesn't exist to enforce "rights" or "justice,"
> it's there to reinforce the existing power structure. This isn't exactly a
> new phenomenon, and it doesn't have anything to do with partisanship. If
> you fail to grasp this, then you have a profound misunderstanding of how
> this country's political system works.
>
> Given your obsession with slinging juvenile partisan attacks, though, I
> guess this isn't exactly news.
I beg to differ. This particualr trial have every thing to do with
partisanship. KSM has already plead guilty at a military hearing and was
set to be tried by a military tribunal. Obama made the decision to move
the trial to NYC for purely partisan, political reasons, His objective is
to put President Bush and the CIA on trial. Moving this trial to NYC is
unnecessary, will cost tax payers $75,000,000.00, will weaken our national
defense and will give muslim terrorists a tremendous propaganda and
recruiting tool.
Irish Mike
OK folks, our phone lines are open and the tenth caller will win... The
Nobel Peace Prize!
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Irish Mike
> "Irish Mike"
>
>
> > So Obama can sling some more mud
> > at President Bush and our CIA.
>
> That would be the President that violated our Constitution; approved a,
> "Round up anybody that looks guilty," "Offer a bounty," then torture and
> waterboard until they confess or die.
No that would be the President that strengthened our national defense and
prevented any terrorist attacks on American soil after 9/11. Which is
more than Obama can say given the muslim terrorist attack at Ft. Hood that
killed 13 American soldiers and wounded 41 others.
Irish Mike
Obama has decided to send 40,000 additional troops to fight in the war
against Fox News.
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Irish Mike
> On Nov 19 2009 8:39 PM, Irish Mike wrote:
>
> > So Obama can sling some more mud at President Bush and our CIA. In
> > addition, it will provide al Queada, Hezbollah, Hamas and the Taliban with
> > an international media platform and a better recruiting tool than they
> > could have ever dreamed of having without Obama's help. BTW, KSM already
> > plead guilty at a military hearing and was about to be tried by a military
> > tribunal that was authorized by Congress. The estimated cost of having
> > this totally unnecessary show trial in NYC is $75 million.
>
> Yeah, I can't imagine how those two wars you enthusiastically support
> could prove to be huge recruiting tools for the terrorists. I'm sure
> they're much more outraged by KSM's trial. You moron.
Can you really be this stupid? Obama is giving muslim extremists a full
color, prime time, world wide news coverage propaganda and recruiting and
propaganda tool . For al Queada, Hamas, Hezbollah, Taliban and every
muslim terrorist group, this Obama show trial in NYC is a dream come true.
The message this trial sends to the terrorists is clear. If you want
international publicity for your jihad, just kill some American civilians.
Then American will give you all the rights of an American citizen, give
you a lawyer and you get national TV coverage that will be beamed to
every muslim country on the planet. This idiotic trial decision is an
insult to the families of the 9/11 victims and a national disgrace.
Irish Mike
Obama has decided to send 40,000 additional troops to fight in the war
against Fox News.
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risky biz
> On Nov 20 2009 5:43 AM, James L. Hankins wrote:
>
> > "mo_charles" <harry...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:3tbit6x...@recgroups.com...
> >
> >
> > > he won't answer this; none of them will. that's what happens when you
> > > trot out a lame political defense for every mistake an idiot in
washington
> > > makes, you end up with no principles. it's all just garbage to "win"
some
> > > meaningless game at the expense of the long-term viability of the nation.
> >
> >
> > Obama is going to regret going down this road. Very foolish decision.
>
> But, but...he found a way to blame it all on Eric Holder, even though
> Holder didn't have the authority to take this from the Military (only the
> president has that authority). Oh well, Obama won't get blamed by anybody
> but Fox news, and all the libs will ignore it and continue sucking his
> dick.
When I take a look at your juvenile, neurotic comments I wonder if you
think that you're influencing the opinion of anyone in any way other than
against yourself.
Clave
news:9l3kt6x...@recgroups.com...
<...>
> No that would be the President that strengthened our national defense and
> prevented any terrorist attacks on American soil after 9/11.
What a pantload.
9/11 happened on his watch, and he was even warned.
Jim
risky biz
> > > I suggest you look up the word terrorist. Because you're fighting
Americans
> > > in your own country does not make you a terrorists. It makes the
Americans
> > > the terrorists. Learn the difference.
> >
> > The American men and women doing the fighting and dying in
> > Afghanistan tracking down the asswipes of Al-Qaeda are not
> > terrorists. We now see just how fucked you really are.
>
> somebody forgot to feed jerry this morning. maybe when orange is done
> cleaning the algae off the fish tanks, he'll get around to it.
>
> mo_charles
Personally, Mo, I think Orange should just leave you in the fish tank.
risky biz
> On Nov 20, 9:45�am, "Jerry Sturdivant" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >> What are your arguments as to why President Obama
> > >> continues to hunt down and kill other "defendants"
> > >> without benefit of a trial?
> >
> > I suggest you look up the word terrorist. Because you're fighting Americans
> > in your own country does not make you a terrorists. It makes the Americans
> > the terrorists. Learn the difference.
> >
> > Jerry 'n Vegas
> >
> > - Look, Conservatives! I guess we'll have to shoot our way out!
>
> The American men and women doing the fighting and dying in
> Afghanistan tracking down the asswipes of Al-Qaeda are not
> terrorists.
Osama Bin Laden probably has a similar sentiment, Alim. Neither of you
seems to have the least concern about who or how many you kill in pursuit
of your bogeymen.
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risky biz
> > > > What are your arguments as to why President Obama continues to hunt
> > > > down and kill other "defendants" without benefit of a trial?
> >
> > How are they "defendants"?
> >
> > KSM is a charged conspirator in a crime committed on US soil.
>
> if the kenyan told you your ass was your elbow, you dumb motherfuckers
> would carve it into tablets.
>
> mo_charles
I'd carve it into tablets if he said your ass was your brain.
risky biz
> > > if the kenyan told you your ass was your elbow, you dumb motherfuckers
> > > would carve it into tablets.
> >
> > Your position on any issue can be summed up by this overriding truth: you
> > hate having to call "the kenyan" Mr. President.
> >
> > There must be a Klan meeting starting soon that would prevent this from
> > being a total waste of a day for you.
>
> on your knees, rudy. suck that COCK!
>
> mo_charles
I think we're now getting to a deeper level with your neuroses here.
risky biz
No, actually, it's you who can't see which side you are on. You are on
Osama Bin Laden's side. You're a mirror image.
Why do you think it's OK to kill innocent men, women, and children in a
drone strike on the specious excuse that some dirtbag paid informer (whose
information you have no means to verify the accuracy of) told you they're
Al-Qaeda?
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Clave
<...>
> Can you really be this stupid? Obama is giving muslim extremists a full
> color, prime time, world wide news coverage propaganda and recruiting and
> propaganda tool . For al Queada, Hamas, Hezbollah, Taliban and every
> muslim terrorist group, this Obama show trial in NYC is a dream come true.
> The message this trial sends to the terrorists is clear. If you want
> international publicity for your jihad, just kill some American civilians.
> Then American will give you all the rights of an American citizen, give
> you a lawyer and you get national TV coverage that will be beamed to
> every muslim country on the planet. This idiotic trial decision is an
> insult to the families of the 9/11 victims and a national disgrace.
Um, shit-for-brains, there's no TV coverage in those courts.
Also, please to splain how Moussaoui's trial was a big jihad/publicity
success for al Qaeda, or for any of the other high-profile terrorists BUSH'S
DOJ tried in civilian courts.
Jim
risky biz
> At least Foley doesn't let his boyfriend run a whorehouse and grow pot at
> his home.
Gee, Brew, after some of the creepy videos you've posted here I find it
hard to believe that you have any authentic compunctions about whorehouses.
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risky biz
> On Nov 20 2009 10:33 AM, ChrisRobin wrote:
>
> > On Nov 19 2009 8:21 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> > > On Nov 20, 3:03�am, OrangeSFO <intangible...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > What are you going to say on the day Khalid Sheik Mohammed gets the
> > > > needle in a federal prison courtesy of successful trial and conviction
> > > > by the US Dept of Justice under President Barack Obama?
> > > >
> > > > You should start preparing your objections now.
> > >
> > > What are your arguments as to why President Obama continues to hunt
> > > down and kill other "defendants" without benefit of a trial?
> >
> > It's indefensible, and unquestionably illegal under any reasonable
> > standard of international law. That a Democrat is currently in power
> > doesn't make it any more or less so.
>
> If they were hunting Israelis it would be fine with your though, huh?
That's a pretty emptyheaded response, Brew, even if you are a genius in
your own mind.
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risky biz
> On Nov 20, 1:33�pm, "ChrisRobin" <a9db...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> > On Nov 19 2009 8:21 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> > > On Nov 20, 3:03�am, OrangeSFO <intangible...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > What are you going to say on the day Khalid Sheik Mohammed gets the
> > > > needle in a federal prison courtesy of successful trial and conviction
> > > > by the US Dept of Justice under President Barack Obama?
> >
> > > > You should start preparing your objections now.
> >
> > > What are your arguments as to why President Obama continues to hunt
> > > down and kill other "defendants" without benefit of a trial?
> >
> > It's indefensible, and unquestionably illegal under any reasonable
> > standard of international law. That a Democrat is currently in power
> > doesn't make it any more or less so.
> >
> The point is, the Bush administration treated the situation, rightly I
> might add, as a military matter, not a criminal matter. Obama
> deciding to treat KSM as a criminal is a mistake and calls into
> question using the military in any way against terrorism.
If he is an armed opponent taken into custody on a battlefield he would
have a defined set of rights and be subject to a military tribunal for a
defined set of crimes. KSM was arrested in an apartment in Pakistan with
the aid of Pakistani authorities nowhere near a battlefield.
Also, why, exactly, are you assuming he's guilty? Did you decide that
you've seen more than enough evidence on Fox News to convict him?
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BillB
"Irish Mike" <ad7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
news:gg4kt6x...@recgroups.com...
> Can you really be this stupid? Obama is giving muslim extremists a
> full
> color, prime time, world wide news coverage propaganda and
> recruiting and
> propaganda tool .
Getting sentenced to life in prison in a Supermax (that is, until they
get around to sticking a needle in your arm and killing you) is a
"recruiting and propoganda tool?"
Irish Mike
> "Irish Mike" <ad7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:gg4kt6x...@recgroups.com...
>
> <...>
>
> > Can you really be this stupid? Obama is giving muslim extremists a full
> > color, prime time, world wide news coverage propaganda and recruiting and
> > propaganda tool . For al Queada, Hamas, Hezbollah, Taliban and every
> > muslim terrorist group, this Obama show trial in NYC is a dream come true.
> > The message this trial sends to the terrorists is clear. If you want
> > international publicity for your jihad, just kill some American civilians.
> > Then American will give you all the rights of an American citizen, give
> > you a lawyer and you get national TV coverage that will be beamed to
> > every muslim country on the planet. This idiotic trial decision is an
> > insult to the families of the 9/11 victims and a national disgrace.
>
> Um, shit-for-brains, there's no TV coverage in those courts.
Well numb nuts, you don't know if there will be TV coverage in the court
or not. Regardless, it will be covered by national and international news
networks and every speech, comment and allegation that KSM or his lawyer
make will be beamed to every muslim country in the world. Not to mention
the national security information this civilian court may order turned
over to KSM and his lawyers. Obama could not have given al Queada a
better publicity, propaganda and recruiting tool.
Irish Mike
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Clave
> On Nov 21 2009 12:01 AM, Clave wrote:
>
>> "Irish Mike" <ad7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:gg4kt6x...@recgroups.com...
>>
>> <...>
>>
>> > Can you really be this stupid? Obama is giving muslim extremists a
>> > full
>> > color, prime time, world wide news coverage propaganda and recruiting
>> > and
>> > propaganda tool . For al Queada, Hamas, Hezbollah, Taliban and every
>> > muslim terrorist group, this Obama show trial in NYC is a dream come
>> > true.
>> > The message this trial sends to the terrorists is clear. If you want
>> > international publicity for your jihad, just kill some American
>> > civilians.
>> > Then American will give you all the rights of an American citizen, give
>> > you a lawyer and you get national TV coverage that will be beamed to
>> > every muslim country on the planet. This idiotic trial decision is an
>> > insult to the families of the 9/11 victims and a national disgrace.
>>
>> Um, shit-for-brains, there's no TV coverage in those courts.
>
> Well numb nuts, you don't know if there will be TV coverage in the court
Oh, so you're *that* worried about something that's never happened before,
but in your fevered imagination, just *might* this time.
Got it.
You fucking moron.
Jim
Jerry Sturdivant
"Irish Mike"
>>> So Obama can sling some more mud
>>> at President Bush and our CIA.
>> That would be the President that violated our Constitution;
>> approved a, "Round up anybody that looks guilty," "Offer
>> a bounty," then torture and waterboard until they confess
>> or die.
> No that would be the President that strengthened our national
> defense and prevented any terrorist attacks on American soil
> after 9/11.
Why did you pick the date, 9/11?
Why did you dodge my factual statements about Bush violating our
Constitution?
Jerry 'n Vegas
- Conservatives don't want to be caught in the crossfire.
Jerry Sturdivant
"Irish Mike"
> Can you really be this stupid? Obama is giving muslim
> extremists a full color, prime time, world wide news
> coverage propaganda and recruiting and propaganda tool .
Who's stupid? You believe it's better to cower and whine? Boy, that will
scare the hell out of the bad guys, huh Mike?
You're living proof that stupid people are too stupid to know they're
stupid.
Jerry 'n Vegas
- Even the smallest candle burns bright in the dark.
K9way
> On Nov 19 2009 9:20 PM, ChrisRobin wrote:
>
> > On Nov 19 2009 3:21 PM, JerseyRudy wrote:
> >
> > > yep, that's good thinking.
> > >
> > > Why don't we come up with a list of all the people who have been charged
> > > with a crime that we know are guilty, and we can save millions by not
> > > having to have trials.
> > >
> > > It might seem to some like we are regressing to the ways of the
> > > Inquisition, but in reality it is a new way of thinking about concepts
> > > such as due process and human rights. Brilliant!
> >
> > Indeed. Another conservative who claims to want the federal government out
> > of the daily lives of everyday citizens, but also wants to give it the
> > absolute power to play cop, judge, jury and executioner.
>
> I think Obama has firmly claimed the role of judge, jury and executioner.
>
SO... A guy who doersnt want the terrorists to have access to any legal
rights .. is pissed off because Obama assumes they are going to be
executed
How do you play both sides of this fence ?
K9way
> Oh, NOW it's about money. When Cheney's Halliburton 'lost track of' over $1
> BILLION dollars and your Republicans blocked the Democrats from
> investigating; what did you say?
>
9 billion went missing in the first few months of the war....NINE BILLION
>
Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"
Jerry Sturdivant
"FL Turbo"
>>>>> What are your arguments as to why President Obama
>>>>> continues to hunt down and kill other "defendants"
>>>>> without benefit of a trial?
>>>> I suggest you look up the word terrorist. Because you're
>>>> fighting Americans in your own country does not make
>>>> you a terrorists. It makes the Americans the terrorists.
>>>> Learn the difference.
>>> The American men and women doing the fighting and dying in
>>> Afghanistan tracking down the asswipes of Al-Qaeda are not
>>> terrorists.
>> They are to al-Qaeda.
> So you are now on the side of al Qaeda?
I knew you were too stupid to understand the post. An educated person would
be embarrassed to post your question.
Jerry (lol @ u) 'n Vegas
- Paul has remained Saul after all; the persecutor of God. - Nietzsche
Jerry Sturdivant
"Alim Nassor"
>> Like I said, there are Insurgents; counterinsurgents;
>> soldiers; terrorists and patriots. Learn the difference.
> I know the difference. As you said it depends which
> side you are on. We can clearly see which side YOU are on.
Wrong again; it's the perspective of that side. You're too stupid to
understand how to take a perspective without actually having to be one of
them. Lean that, too.
Jerry 'n Vegas
- You are now entering a Mental State. Please show ID...
FL Turbo
<jer...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>"FL Turbo"
>
>>>>>> What are your arguments as to why President Obama
>>>>>> continues to hunt down and kill other "defendants"
>>>>>> without benefit of a trial?
>
>>>>> I suggest you look up the word terrorist. Because you're
>>>>> fighting Americans in your own country does not make
>>>>> you a terrorists. It makes the Americans the terrorists.
>>>>> Learn the difference.
>
>>>> The American men and women doing the fighting and dying in
>>>> Afghanistan tracking down the asswipes of Al-Qaeda are not
>>>> terrorists.
>
>>> They are to al-Qaeda.
>
>> So you are now on the side of al Qaeda?
>
>I knew you were too stupid to understand the post. An educated person would
>be embarrassed to post your question.
>
What's to understand?
You expressed your sympathy with al Qaeda and the Taleban's contention
that our troops are "terrorists".
Whose side are you on?
brewmaster
> On Nov 20 2009 4:54 PM, brewmaster wrote:
>
> > At least Foley doesn't let his boyfriend run a whorehouse and grow pot at
> > his home.
>
> Gee, Brew, after some of the creepy videos you've posted here I find it
> hard to believe that you have any authentic compunctions about whorehouses.
I don't, I just don't like they hypocrisy.
Brew
--
Hatred is purity...weakness is disease!
FEAR - Foreign Policy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOCcbKAhlY0
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risky biz
> On Nov 20 2009 8:05 PM, risky biz wrote:
>
> > On Nov 20 2009 4:54 PM, brewmaster wrote:
> >
> > > At least Foley doesn't let his boyfriend run a whorehouse and grow pot at
> > > his home.
> >
> > Gee, Brew, after some of the creepy videos you've posted here I find it
> > hard to believe that you have any authentic compunctions about whorehouses.
>
> I don't, I just don't like they hypocrisy.
Jeez, the pot called the kettle black.
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brewmaster
> "Irish Mike"
>
> > Can you really be this stupid? Obama is giving muslim
> > extremists a full color, prime time, world wide news
> > coverage propaganda and recruiting and propaganda tool .
>
> Who's stupid? You believe it's better to cower and whine? Boy, that will
> scare the hell out of the bad guys, huh Mike?
>
> You're living proof that stupid people are too stupid to know they're
> stupid.
pkb
>
>
> Jerry 'n Vegas
>
> - Even the smallest candle burns bright in the dark.
Brew
--
Hatred is purity...weakness is disease!
FEAR - Foreign Policy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOCcbKAhlY0
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Jerry Sturdivant
"FL Turbo"
>>>> They are to al-Qaeda.
>>> So you are now on the side of al Qaeda?
>> An educated person would
>> be embarrassed to post your question.
> What's to understand?
I explained it and you STILL don't know.
> You expressed your sympathy with al Qaeda .
No, I didn't; and you can't show where I did. That what I explained and that's
what you're unable to understand. I'll state it again:
>> I knew you were too stupid to understand the post.
Jerry 'n Vegas
- Windows for Workgroups: Why crash 1 when you can crash 6?