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Alim Nassor
Feb 8, 2012, 2:08:50 AM2/8/12
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http://www.lvrj.com/news/video-shows-officers-beating-motorist-in-diabetic-shock-138901274.html
Adam Greene is on his stomach as a pack of police officers pile on
him, driving their knees into his back and wrenching his arms and
legs. One officer knees him in the ribs; another kicks him in the
face.
"Stop resisting," officers on the video yell, but Greene, his face
pushed into the pavement, hasn't resisted. He doesn't even move --
maybe can't move -- because he's gone into diabetic shock caused by
low blood sugar.
The video, recorded more than a year ago by a police car dashboard
camera, was released Tuesday by Greene's lawyers. The same night, the
Henderson City Council approved a settlement of $158,500 for Greene.
His wife received $99,000 from Henderson, which is just under the
minimum amount that requires council approval.
Nevada Highway Patrol troopers also participated in the traffic stop
but do not appear to kick or knee Greene on the video. The state has
agreed to pay $35,000 to Greene for a total of $292,500 between the
two agencies.
It was a Highway Patrol vehicle camera that captured the incident.
CAUGHT ON TAPE
A Highway Patrol trooper enters the scene first, gun drawn, and kicks
the driver’s window of Greene’s four-door sedan. After several
moments, the trooper opens the door.
The trooper, his gun still raised, then gives Greene conflicting
commands. He first tells him not to move, then tells him to come
forward.
A second trooper quickly cuffs Greene's wrist and pulls him from the
car, which rolls forward until an officer stops it.
Greene flops to the ground, clearly dazed as five officers rush him. A
sixth officer, with Henderson police, enters the frame late and
delivers five well-placed kicks to Greene's face.
"Stop resisting mother (expletive)!" one officer yells.
Greene doesn't scream until a second Henderson officer knees him in
the midsection -- and then does it three more times. Greene was later
treated for fractured ribs.
Police suspected Greene was intoxicated as he wove among lanes about 4
a.m. on Oct. 29, 2010, and finally stopped his car near Lake Mead
Parkway and Boulder Highway in Henderson.
But that wasn't the case, which they soon discovered after they
searched Greene.
"Call in medical," one officer says in the video. "We found some
insulin in his pocket. ... He's semiconscious."
"Let's get medical out here. He's a diabetic, he's probably in shock,"
the officer later tells dispatch.
Greene's lawsuit said officers then forced him to stand by a patrol
car in handcuffs and blow into a Breathalyzer, despite being injured.
Paramedics later arrived and treated him for the low blood sugar.
Greene was released without a citation, and officers apologized to him
for "beating him up," the lawsuit said.
He immediately went to a hospital, where he was treated for the broken
ribs and the bruises to his hands, neck, face and scalp, the lawsuit
said.
One of the harsher moments in the video comes near the end of the
clip, when one officer can be heard laughing loudly.
One officer notes that Greene "was not a small guy." An officer laughs
and says, "I couldn't take him by myself."
I'll bet Jerry is just kicking himself that he didn't get to
participate.
Adam Greene is on his stomach as a pack of police officers pile on
him, driving their knees into his back and wrenching his arms and
legs. One officer knees him in the ribs; another kicks him in the
face.
"Stop resisting," officers on the video yell, but Greene, his face
pushed into the pavement, hasn't resisted. He doesn't even move --
maybe can't move -- because he's gone into diabetic shock caused by
low blood sugar.
The video, recorded more than a year ago by a police car dashboard
camera, was released Tuesday by Greene's lawyers. The same night, the
Henderson City Council approved a settlement of $158,500 for Greene.
His wife received $99,000 from Henderson, which is just under the
minimum amount that requires council approval.
Nevada Highway Patrol troopers also participated in the traffic stop
but do not appear to kick or knee Greene on the video. The state has
agreed to pay $35,000 to Greene for a total of $292,500 between the
two agencies.
It was a Highway Patrol vehicle camera that captured the incident.
CAUGHT ON TAPE
A Highway Patrol trooper enters the scene first, gun drawn, and kicks
the driver’s window of Greene’s four-door sedan. After several
moments, the trooper opens the door.
The trooper, his gun still raised, then gives Greene conflicting
commands. He first tells him not to move, then tells him to come
forward.
A second trooper quickly cuffs Greene's wrist and pulls him from the
car, which rolls forward until an officer stops it.
Greene flops to the ground, clearly dazed as five officers rush him. A
sixth officer, with Henderson police, enters the frame late and
delivers five well-placed kicks to Greene's face.
"Stop resisting mother (expletive)!" one officer yells.
Greene doesn't scream until a second Henderson officer knees him in
the midsection -- and then does it three more times. Greene was later
treated for fractured ribs.
Police suspected Greene was intoxicated as he wove among lanes about 4
a.m. on Oct. 29, 2010, and finally stopped his car near Lake Mead
Parkway and Boulder Highway in Henderson.
But that wasn't the case, which they soon discovered after they
searched Greene.
"Call in medical," one officer says in the video. "We found some
insulin in his pocket. ... He's semiconscious."
"Let's get medical out here. He's a diabetic, he's probably in shock,"
the officer later tells dispatch.
Greene's lawsuit said officers then forced him to stand by a patrol
car in handcuffs and blow into a Breathalyzer, despite being injured.
Paramedics later arrived and treated him for the low blood sugar.
Greene was released without a citation, and officers apologized to him
for "beating him up," the lawsuit said.
He immediately went to a hospital, where he was treated for the broken
ribs and the bruises to his hands, neck, face and scalp, the lawsuit
said.
One of the harsher moments in the video comes near the end of the
clip, when one officer can be heard laughing loudly.
One officer notes that Greene "was not a small guy." An officer laughs
and says, "I couldn't take him by myself."
I'll bet Jerry is just kicking himself that he didn't get to
participate.
Jason Pawloski
Feb 8, 2012, 6:23:42 AM2/8/12
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I mean ... that's gotta be photoshopped right?
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Jerry "The Savant" Sturdivant - making up a position for reality since
1926.
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Alim Nassor
Feb 8, 2012, 6:55:27 AM2/8/12
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On Feb 8, 5:23 am, "Jason Pawloski" <a679...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> On Feb 8 2012 12:08 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
>
>
>
> http://www.lvrj.com/news/video-shows-officers-beating-motorist-in-dia...
> On Feb 8 2012 12:08 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
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>
>
being there to help people. Here is a continuation of the same story
from the LVRJ, where the thugs in a different case killed a man who
was having a seizure.
This wasn't the first high-profile incident involving a medical
episode in Clark County. In both cases, the Highway Patrol was
involved.
Las Vegas doctor Ryan Rich, 33, died in January 2008 after trooper
Loren Lazoff used a Taser on him five times.
Rich's vehicle had crashed into two vehicles and then the center
median on Interstate 15.
Lazoff said Rich appeared intoxicated, dazed and was combative, but an
autopsy later revealed he only had seizure medication in his system.
Rich had been diagnosed with the seizure disorder shortly before he
died.
VegasJerry
Feb 8, 2012, 10:02:32 AM2/8/12
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it. It's why you chase me around with your incessant whining and
blubbering. The officers were reacting to what they were trained to do for
their defense and the protection of the public. If you have an argument
with their training in the "Use of Force Technique Training," take it up
with the state and Homeland Security. They, and the police, and the
military, have more experience in this than some idiot street-coroner
lawyer like you that thinks they smarter than the professionals.
Jerry (bitch-slapping the stupid since '62) 'n Vegas
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Mossingen
Feb 8, 2012, 10:04:40 AM2/8/12
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"Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>Same mentality ain't it? What the hell ever happened to police
>being there to help people.
When was the last time you called the police for assistance?
>Here is a continuation of the same story
>from the LVRJ, where the thugs in a different case killed a man who
>was having a seizure.
And the cop was supposed to know that the guy was prone to seizures, was
taking seizure medication, but chose to drive his car anyway and crashed it,
how exactly?
You guys continually post these stories of cops reacting to on-the-street
situations where the true reason for the actions of the citizen is unknown,
but mimics dangerous behavior. If you are evaluating the actions of the
cops, then the actual situation is irrelevant. The relevant part is how the
situation would appear to them in the moment.
The last time I called the cops was about 10 years ago when we went out to
the movies and returned home. As I was about to unlock the door to my house
we heard noises inside that sounded for all the world like an intruder. We
backed away, called the cops, they arrived and swept my house. Did not find
anyone there or signs of forced entry. We surmised that a cat had made some
noise by knocking something over at the exact moment I was at the door. My
experience with the police was fine, and I'm glad they responded like they
did and that I didn't have to deal with a potential intruder by myself.
news:67026c76-91f1-4edc...@ge5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>Same mentality ain't it? What the hell ever happened to police
>being there to help people.
>Here is a continuation of the same story
>from the LVRJ, where the thugs in a different case killed a man who
>was having a seizure.
taking seizure medication, but chose to drive his car anyway and crashed it,
how exactly?
You guys continually post these stories of cops reacting to on-the-street
situations where the true reason for the actions of the citizen is unknown,
but mimics dangerous behavior. If you are evaluating the actions of the
cops, then the actual situation is irrelevant. The relevant part is how the
situation would appear to them in the moment.
The last time I called the cops was about 10 years ago when we went out to
the movies and returned home. As I was about to unlock the door to my house
we heard noises inside that sounded for all the world like an intruder. We
backed away, called the cops, they arrived and swept my house. Did not find
anyone there or signs of forced entry. We surmised that a cat had made some
noise by knocking something over at the exact moment I was at the door. My
experience with the police was fine, and I'm glad they responded like they
did and that I didn't have to deal with a potential intruder by myself.
Dave the Clueless
Feb 8, 2012, 11:16:14 AM2/8/12
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kneeing in the ribs? I wonder if the state gives criminals a quarter of a
million dollars every time their police officers follow procedure...
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Canada, keeping the brown people to a minimum for 80 years!
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VegasJerry
Feb 8, 2012, 11:45:26 AM2/8/12
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the fool we've said you are.
Jerry 'n Vegas
: the kicking in the face or the
> kneeing in the ribs? I wonder if the state gives criminals a quarter of a
> million dollars every time their police officers follow procedure...
>
> -------
> Canada, keeping the brown people to a minimum for 80 years!
>
> ----
Alim Nassor
Feb 8, 2012, 12:50:13 PM2/8/12
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On Feb 8, 4:02 pm, "VegasJerry" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Feb 7 2012 11:08 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
>
>
>
> http://www.lvrj.com/news/video-shows-officers-beating-motorist-in-dia...
> On Feb 7 2012 11:08 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
>
>
>
Alim Nassor
Feb 8, 2012, 12:51:11 PM2/8/12
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On Feb 8, 4:02 pm, "VegasJerry" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Feb 7 2012 11:08 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
>
>
>
> http://www.lvrj.com/news/video-shows-officers-beating-motorist-in-dia...
>
>
>
Alim Nassor
Feb 8, 2012, 12:56:43 PM2/8/12
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On Feb 8, 4:04 pm, "Mossingen" <jhanki...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >Here is a continuation of the same story
> >from the LVRJ, where the thugs in a different case killed a man who
> >was having a seizure.
>
> And the cop was supposed to know that the guy was prone to seizures, was
> taking seizure medication, but chose to drive his car anyway and crashed it,
> how exactly?
You know, an unarmed man that appears dazed might compell a decent
officer to step back and reassess the situation before tazing the guy
FIVE FUCKING TIMES!!!!! But cops aren't really interested in
helping a guy like that anymore, what they want to do now is get a
piece of the action, like my supervisizing officer told me once, "when
the guy resists, he's free meat" He was takling about a 65 year old
drunk who didn't want to get in the squad car.
cops. LOL
> "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:67026c76-91f1-4edc...@ge5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>
> >Same mentality ain't it? What the hell ever happened to police
> >being there to help people.
>
> When was the last time you called the police for assistance?
Never have.
> news:67026c76-91f1-4edc...@ge5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>
> >Same mentality ain't it? What the hell ever happened to police
> >being there to help people.
>
> When was the last time you called the police for assistance?
>
> >Here is a continuation of the same story
> >from the LVRJ, where the thugs in a different case killed a man who
> >was having a seizure.
>
> And the cop was supposed to know that the guy was prone to seizures, was
> taking seizure medication, but chose to drive his car anyway and crashed it,
> how exactly?
officer to step back and reassess the situation before tazing the guy
FIVE FUCKING TIMES!!!!! But cops aren't really interested in
helping a guy like that anymore, what they want to do now is get a
piece of the action, like my supervisizing officer told me once, "when
the guy resists, he's free meat" He was takling about a 65 year old
drunk who didn't want to get in the squad car.
>
> You guys continually post these stories of cops reacting to on-the-street
> situations where the true reason for the actions of the citizen is unknown,
> but mimics dangerous behavior. If you are evaluating the actions of the
> cops, then the actual situation is irrelevant. The relevant part is how the
> situation would appear to them in the moment.
>
> The last time I called the cops was about 10 years ago when we went out to
> the movies and returned home. As I was about to unlock the door to my house
> we heard noises inside that sounded for all the world like an intruder. We
> backed away, called the cops, they arrived and swept my house. Did not find
> anyone there or signs of forced entry. We surmised that a cat had made some
> noise by knocking something over at the exact moment I was at the door. My
> experience with the police was fine, and I'm glad they responded like they
> did and that I didn't have to deal with a potential intruder by myself.
I don't know if I woulda posted that my cat scared me into calling the
> You guys continually post these stories of cops reacting to on-the-street
> situations where the true reason for the actions of the citizen is unknown,
> but mimics dangerous behavior. If you are evaluating the actions of the
> cops, then the actual situation is irrelevant. The relevant part is how the
> situation would appear to them in the moment.
>
> The last time I called the cops was about 10 years ago when we went out to
> the movies and returned home. As I was about to unlock the door to my house
> we heard noises inside that sounded for all the world like an intruder. We
> backed away, called the cops, they arrived and swept my house. Did not find
> anyone there or signs of forced entry. We surmised that a cat had made some
> noise by knocking something over at the exact moment I was at the door. My
> experience with the police was fine, and I'm glad they responded like they
> did and that I didn't have to deal with a potential intruder by myself.
cops. LOL
Robert Ladd
Feb 8, 2012, 3:49:57 PM2/8/12
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Alim, I don't know what point you and Jason keep trying to make in posting
these things. Do you not see that they are just like Bea posting a gun
shooting event? In both cases we have anomaly situations out of thousands
to millions of positive outcomes. In neither situation do any of you have
some sort of realistic constructive solution.
We need the police force. What are you suggesting? I can't even guess what
your point is because every time I try to finish one of your posts with some
solution that seems logical (which YOU guys never do), I can't create a
valid, logical conclusion. Where are you heading with this -- All cops
should be fired? -- We should abandon all law enforcement and let citizens
settle their problems themselves?
Obviously, the nature of the beast attracts many individuals that have
inferior feelings and want the power they can get from the job, but how do
you eliminate that without firing the entire police force. Like I respond
to Bea about guns, do you believe we'd be safer if we banned them? Do you
think we'd be safer if we eliminated police?
I'm honestly trying to see your point, but I haven't seen a hint of a
solution. If your view from the inside suggests that it's that bad on all
forces then where do we go from here?
Robert Ladd
Alim, I don't know what point you and Jason keep trying to make in posting
these things. Do you not see that they are just like Bea posting a gun
shooting event? In both cases we have anomaly situations out of thousands
to millions of positive outcomes. In neither situation do any of you have
some sort of realistic constructive solution.
We need the police force. What are you suggesting? I can't even guess what
your point is because every time I try to finish one of your posts with some
solution that seems logical (which YOU guys never do), I can't create a
valid, logical conclusion. Where are you heading with this -- All cops
should be fired? -- We should abandon all law enforcement and let citizens
settle their problems themselves?
Obviously, the nature of the beast attracts many individuals that have
inferior feelings and want the power they can get from the job, but how do
you eliminate that without firing the entire police force. Like I respond
to Bea about guns, do you believe we'd be safer if we banned them? Do you
think we'd be safer if we eliminated police?
I'm honestly trying to see your point, but I haven't seen a hint of a
solution. If your view from the inside suggests that it's that bad on all
forces then where do we go from here?
Robert Ladd
VegasJerry
Feb 8, 2012, 4:19:10 PM2/8/12
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On Feb 8 2012 9:56 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> On Feb 8, 4:04 pm, "Mossingen" <jhanki...@cox.net> wrote:
> > "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:67026c76-91f1-4edc...@ge5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > >Same mentality ain't it? What the hell ever happened to police
> > >being there to help people.
> >
> > When was the last time you called the police for assistance?
>
> Never have.
>
> >
> > >Here is a continuation of the same story
> > >from the LVRJ, where the thugs in a different case killed a man who
> > >was having a seizure.
> >
> > And the cop was supposed to know that the guy was prone to seizures, was
> > taking seizure medication, but chose to drive his car anyway and crashed
it,
> > how exactly?
>
> You know, an unarmed man that appears dazed might compell a decent
> officer to step back and reassess the situation before tazing the guy
> FIVE FUCKING TIMES!!!!! But cops aren't really interested in
> helping a guy like that anymore,
Gee, you making up a position for all the cops. Imagine that.....
> On Feb 8, 4:04 pm, "Mossingen" <jhanki...@cox.net> wrote:
> > "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:67026c76-91f1-4edc...@ge5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > >Same mentality ain't it? What the hell ever happened to police
> > >being there to help people.
> >
> > When was the last time you called the police for assistance?
>
> Never have.
>
> >
> > >Here is a continuation of the same story
> > >from the LVRJ, where the thugs in a different case killed a man who
> > >was having a seizure.
> >
> > And the cop was supposed to know that the guy was prone to seizures, was
> > taking seizure medication, but chose to drive his car anyway and crashed
it,
> > how exactly?
>
> You know, an unarmed man that appears dazed might compell a decent
> officer to step back and reassess the situation before tazing the guy
> FIVE FUCKING TIMES!!!!! But cops aren't really interested in
> helping a guy like that anymore,
> what they want to do now is get a piece of the action,
Jerry 'n Vegas
like my supervisizing officer told me once, "when
> the guy resists, he's free meat" He was takling about a 65 year old
> drunk who didn't want to get in the squad car.
> >
> > You guys continually post these stories of cops reacting to on-the-street
> > situations where the true reason for the actions of the citizen is unknown,
> > but mimics dangerous behavior. If you are evaluating the actions of the
> > cops, then the actual situation is irrelevant. The relevant part is how
the
> > situation would appear to them in the moment.
> >
> > The last time I called the cops was about 10 years ago when we went out to
> > the movies and returned home. As I was about to unlock the door to my
house
> > we heard noises inside that sounded for all the world like an intruder. We
> > backed away, called the cops, they arrived and swept my house. Did not
find
> > anyone there or signs of forced entry. We surmised that a cat had made
some
> > noise by knocking something over at the exact moment I was at the door. My
> > experience with the police was fine, and I'm glad they responded like they
> > did and that I didn't have to deal with a potential intruder by myself.
>
> I don't know if I woulda posted that my cat scared me into calling the
> cops. LOL
VegasJerry
Feb 8, 2012, 4:23:41 PM2/8/12
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Force Technique Training." It protects them; protects the citizens, and
stopped the idiot that didn't show the responsibility to take his medicine
and ended up endangering the public, you stupid fucking idiot.
Jerry 'n Vegas
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bratt
Feb 8, 2012, 4:44:55 PM2/8/12
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should be taught that someone in a unresponsive COMA shouldn't be kicked
in the ribs?
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On Nov 8 2011 2:11 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
Jerry (almonst worthless) 'n Vegas
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Dave the Clueless
Feb 8, 2012, 4:57:36 PM2/8/12
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happen" is not 100% cover for police misconduct. I'm bored with people who
present that attitude. I'm not advocating fighting the cops or resisting
arrest, I'm just saying that reflexively blaming the citizen as some folks
do is abysmally stupid.
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Canada, keeping the brown people to a minimum for 80 years!
VegasJerry
Feb 8, 2012, 5:05:02 PM2/8/12
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J..
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> On Nov 8 2011 2:11 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
> Jerry (almonst worthless) 'n Vegas
>
> ----
VegasJerry
Feb 8, 2012, 5:11:28 PM2/8/12
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> I'm bored with people who present that attitude.
> I'm not advocating fighting the cops or resisting arrest, I'm just
> saying that reflexively blaming the citizen as some folks
> do is abysmally stupid.
always blaiming the cops when some folks do something abysmally stupid.
J..
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Alim Nassor
Feb 8, 2012, 5:55:12 PM2/8/12
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On Feb 8, 2:49 pm, "Robert Ladd" <rla...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:b55143fc-8fec-4b4f...@dp8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...http://www.lvrj.com/news/video-shows-officers-beating-motorist-in-dia...
> "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
instead of a slap on the wrist liken they usually get, even when
someone dies. These cocksuckers stick together, no matter what, as
evidenced by jerry the loon, who can never bring himself to be
critical of a cop like these douches, who beat the fuck out of a man
in a diabetic coma, or the fucking murderer who tazed a dazed man who
had had a traffic accident 5 times, resulting in that mans death.
Alim Nassor
Feb 8, 2012, 5:57:20 PM2/8/12
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Alim Nassor
Feb 8, 2012, 5:56:57 PM2/8/12
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innocent man, showed the only substance in his blood WAS his
medicine. And now you seem to be saying, that having a traffic
accident justifies the police in killing him. FUCK YOU!!
Dave the Clueless
Feb 8, 2012, 6:11:25 PM2/8/12
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helpless citizen?
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > On Nov 8 2011 2:11 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
> > Jerry (almonst worthless) 'n Vegas
> >
> > ----
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
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Canada, keeping the brown people to a minimum for 80 years!
Dave the Clueless
Feb 8, 2012, 6:12:41 PM2/8/12
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> : the kicking in the face or the
> > kneeing in the ribs? I wonder if the state gives criminals a quarter of a
> > million dollars every time their police officers follow procedure...
> >
> > -------
> > Canada, keeping the brown people to a minimum for 80 years!
> >
> > ----
>
> _____________________________________________________________________
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Canada, keeping the brown people to a minimum for 80 years!
Dave the Clueless
Feb 8, 2012, 6:09:18 PM2/8/12
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Canada, keeping the brown people to a minimum for 80 years!
Tad Perry
Feb 8, 2012, 6:40:07 PM2/8/12
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"Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The story illustrates a common cop attitude: They honestly want to be civil
and helpful when dealing with people they think are law-abiding citizens,
but they also feel that true criminals only deserve the utmost contempt. So
when they thought he was some idiot drunk driver putting other people's
lives at risk, they came down heavy and hard. When they found it was just
some poor guy going into diabetic shock, their tune suddenly changed. "Oh,
we're so sorry, sir. We thought you were just another scumbag."
tvp
Tad Perry
Feb 8, 2012, 6:50:52 PM2/8/12
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"Mossingen" <jhan...@cox.net> wrote in message
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could do and refused to send anyone.
(There has been a high incidence of car prowling in the neighborhood, and so
I was keeping a close eye on things, when I saw three teenagers walking up
the street looking into cars at 3:00am in the morning. The 911 operator
said: "What can the police do? They're just kids walking up the street."
What they can do is just drive down the street in question and show a police
presence in the neighborhood. Even that achieves something positive. Also,
they might even catch someone red-handed. What was so hard to understand
about that?)
tvp
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> "Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:67026c76-91f1-4edc...@ge5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>>Same mentality ain't it? What the hell ever happened to police
>>being there to help people.
>
>
> When was the last time you called the police for assistance?
That would be the time the 911 operator claimed there was nothing the police
> news:67026c76-91f1-4edc...@ge5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>>Same mentality ain't it? What the hell ever happened to police
>>being there to help people.
>
>
> When was the last time you called the police for assistance?
could do and refused to send anyone.
(There has been a high incidence of car prowling in the neighborhood, and so
I was keeping a close eye on things, when I saw three teenagers walking up
the street looking into cars at 3:00am in the morning. The 911 operator
said: "What can the police do? They're just kids walking up the street."
What they can do is just drive down the street in question and show a police
presence in the neighborhood. Even that achieves something positive. Also,
they might even catch someone red-handed. What was so hard to understand
about that?)
tvp
~M~
Feb 8, 2012, 9:31:50 PM2/8/12
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"VegasJerry" wrote in message news:8dfa09x...@app-01.ezprovider.com...
>They, and the police, and the
>military, have more experience in this than some idiot street-coroner
>lawyer like you that thinks they smarter than the professionals.
One thing is certain. The more cops we have, the more street-coroners we
will need.
--
"The less intelligent you are, the more susceptible you are to propaganda"
- Jerry (he stupid) 'n Vegas, Master of Irony 2/5/2012
>They, and the police, and the
>military, have more experience in this than some idiot street-coroner
>lawyer like you that thinks they smarter than the professionals.
will need.
--
"The less intelligent you are, the more susceptible you are to propaganda"
- Jerry (he stupid) 'n Vegas, Master of Irony 2/5/2012
Mossingen
Feb 8, 2012, 9:54:21 PM2/8/12
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"Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>You've never proven shit, except that you are a good little fascist.
theme, which is police reacting to on-the-street situations that appear one
way (threatening and possibly dangerous) but turn out to be something
different in reality.
Fact is, if a 13-year-old pointed a harmless plastic gun at you, but it
looked real, you would probably fire at the kid. Then, you'd have to listen
to folks squawk about how you murdered an unarmed 13-year-old.
In the link you posted to start this thread, at the beginning of the video
there is a guy sitting in a car that has just wrecked and they driver is
acting weird. You don't even acknowledge that the situation started that
way, you just harp on the facts that were known after the event. That's not
a good way to look at things.
Mossingen
Feb 8, 2012, 10:02:08 PM2/8/12
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"Robert Ladd" <rla...@cox.net> wrote in message
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I'd settle for them just posting one that shows that the cops did something
wrong. The ones they post are stories of diabetics who drive and crash
while having seizures, epileptics who drive and crash and then act
incoherent at the scene, deaf woodworkers walking down the street with a
knife, etc. They are all situations that look menacing, but in reality the
citizen is not.
Their MO is to use facts acquired after the event to critique the actions of
the police who are unaware at the time of the true nature of the situation.
FFS, it's like they really believe that if the cops knew that the guy acting
incoherently in his crashed car was in a diabetic coma the cops would still
pull their guns and kick the shit out him instead of calling for an
ambulance.
news:jgun5t$9bm$1...@dont-email.me...
wrong. The ones they post are stories of diabetics who drive and crash
while having seizures, epileptics who drive and crash and then act
incoherent at the scene, deaf woodworkers walking down the street with a
knife, etc. They are all situations that look menacing, but in reality the
citizen is not.
Their MO is to use facts acquired after the event to critique the actions of
the police who are unaware at the time of the true nature of the situation.
FFS, it's like they really believe that if the cops knew that the guy acting
incoherently in his crashed car was in a diabetic coma the cops would still
pull their guns and kick the shit out him instead of calling for an
ambulance.
Mossingen
Feb 8, 2012, 10:07:55 PM2/8/12
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"Dave the Clueless" <a98...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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> I get from it that "Just listen to the nice officer and nothing bad will
> happen" is not 100% cover for police misconduct. I'm bored with people who
> present that attitude. I'm not advocating fighting the cops or resisting
> arrest, I'm just saying that reflexively blaming the citizen as some folks
> do is abysmally stupid.
But in all of the stories they post, the citizen has some problem (diabetic,
epileptic, deaf woodworker carrying a knife) that mimics dangerous behavior.
Have they ever posted a video or news story where a citizen is truly just
minding his own business, not doing anything that could even be perceived as
threatening, and is then set upon by a bunch of cops and beaten?
If someone walked up to Nassor's house tonight and started pounding on the
door to be let in and threatened those inside with violence, that guy stands
a good chance of getting killed or severely injured. If he was killed, then
we could have a nice news story of blood-thirsty homeowners who shoot and
kill drunk frat boys who wander to the wrong house in a drunken fog thinking
it was their own.
news:gn7b09x...@app-01.ezprovider.com...
> I get from it that "Just listen to the nice officer and nothing bad will
> happen" is not 100% cover for police misconduct. I'm bored with people who
> present that attitude. I'm not advocating fighting the cops or resisting
> arrest, I'm just saying that reflexively blaming the citizen as some folks
> do is abysmally stupid.
epileptic, deaf woodworker carrying a knife) that mimics dangerous behavior.
Have they ever posted a video or news story where a citizen is truly just
minding his own business, not doing anything that could even be perceived as
threatening, and is then set upon by a bunch of cops and beaten?
If someone walked up to Nassor's house tonight and started pounding on the
door to be let in and threatened those inside with violence, that guy stands
a good chance of getting killed or severely injured. If he was killed, then
we could have a nice news story of blood-thirsty homeowners who shoot and
kill drunk frat boys who wander to the wrong house in a drunken fog thinking
it was their own.
Mossingen
Feb 8, 2012, 10:22:15 PM2/8/12
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"Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You know, an unarmed man that appears dazed might compell a decent
officer to step back and reassess the situation before tazing the guy
FIVE FUCKING TIMES!!!!! But cops aren't really interested in
helping a guy like that anymore, what they want to do now is get a
piece of the action, like my supervisizing officer told me once, "when
the guy resists, he's free meat" He was takling about a 65 year old
drunk who didn't want to get in the squad car.
The cops know that the guy is unarmed how? They know that he's "dazed" and
not high on a dangerous drug how? You seem to require a rule where the cops
have to stand there and guess at what the fuck is happening.
> You guys continually post these stories of cops reacting to on-the-street
> situations where the true reason for the actions of the citizen is
> unknown,
> but mimics dangerous behavior. If you are evaluating the actions of the
> cops, then the actual situation is irrelevant. The relevant part is how
> the
> situation would appear to them in the moment.
>
> The last time I called the cops was about 10 years ago when we went out to
> the movies and returned home. As I was about to unlock the door to my
> house
> we heard noises inside that sounded for all the world like an intruder. We
> backed away, called the cops, they arrived and swept my house. Did not
> find
> anyone there or signs of forced entry. We surmised that a cat had made
> some
> noise by knocking something over at the exact moment I was at the door. My
> experience with the police was fine, and I'm glad they responded like they
> did and that I didn't have to deal with a potential intruder by myself.
I don't know if I woulda posted that my cat scared me into calling the
cops. LOL
That's a perfect example of the blinders you have on this issue. AT THE
TIME, it could have been a cat, or it could have been two guys inside my
house waiting for me and my family to come home. It's funny after the fact,
but standing there at the door with my wife laughing and my kids tired and
wanting to go to bed, it's damn serious business.
Robert Ladd
Feb 8, 2012, 11:34:15 PM2/8/12
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"~M~" <~M~@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "VegasJerry" wrote in message
> news:8dfa09x...@app-01.ezprovider.com...
>
>>They, and the police, and the
>>military, have more experience in this than some idiot street-coroner
>>lawyer like you that thinks they smarter than the professionals.
>
>
> One thing is certain. The more cops we have, the more street-coroners we
> will need.
>
Maybe we'll have to post a street-coroner on every street corner.
> news:8dfa09x...@app-01.ezprovider.com...
>
>>They, and the police, and the
>>military, have more experience in this than some idiot street-coroner
>>lawyer like you that thinks they smarter than the professionals.
>
>
> One thing is certain. The more cops we have, the more street-coroners we
> will need.
>
I hope this is short enough for johnny_t's liking. It seems I have to be
aware of johnny-t's short attention span when I post about things now. Of
course, this is proof that the last time I posted about Jerry proof-reading
his stuff, it went through one ear and out the other.
Robert Ladd
Tad Perry
Feb 9, 2012, 1:27:23 AM2/9/12
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"Mossingen" <jhan...@cox.net> wrote in message
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aware that things are not always what they appear to be. The "Sorry, I
thought you were free meat. My bad." doesn't cut it here. Now you're
probably going to counter with an exceptional circumstance like a kid
pointing a toy gun at a police officer, but a kid that stupid probably
deserves to get blown away. We don't need that shit in the gene pool.
tvp
Alim Nassor
Feb 9, 2012, 2:09:21 AM2/9/12
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On Feb 8, 8:54 pm, "Mossingen" <jhanki...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
The post you replied to was directed at Jerry. I've never called you
a fascist.
The driver is sitting there. I'f you ever seen someone in diabetic
shock, you know they seem dazed, confused, etc. The cops first action
is to run up, kick the window (I wonder what he thought his half ass
kung-fu was going to do) and the proceed to shout conflicting orders
at him. There was no attempt to assess the situation beyond, "lets
kick his ass".
> "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
a fascist.
The driver is sitting there. I'f you ever seen someone in diabetic
shock, you know they seem dazed, confused, etc. The cops first action
is to run up, kick the window (I wonder what he thought his half ass
kung-fu was going to do) and the proceed to shout conflicting orders
at him. There was no attempt to assess the situation beyond, "lets
kick his ass".
Alim Nassor
Feb 9, 2012, 2:10:28 AM2/9/12
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On Feb 8, 9:02 pm, "Mossingen" <jhanki...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Robert Ladd" <rla...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> news:jgun5t$9bm$1...@dont-email.me...
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>
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>
>
>
>
> > "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> "Robert Ladd" <rla...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> news:jgun5t$9bm$1...@dont-email.me...
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> >news:b55143fc-8fec-4b4f...@dp8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> >http://www.lvrj.com/news/video-shows-officers-beating-motorist-in-dia...
is actually occurring until after they have beaten or killed someone.
Dave the Clueless
Feb 9, 2012, 8:45:01 AM2/9/12
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deserve to have the shit kicked out of you. Thank god the polite,
respectful and helpful police were there to take care of this situation.
An untrained civilian might have sprained a toe kicking that guy. It takes
years of training to beat up a helpless person safely!
Dave (channeling Jerry) the Clueless
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Canada, keeping the brown people to a minimum for 80 years!
Alim Nassor
Feb 9, 2012, 9:45:44 AM2/9/12
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On Feb 9, 7:45 am, "Dave the Clueless" <a987...@webnntp.invalid>
wrote:
I guarantee you the guy kicking the victim in the face is a yellow dog
coward.
wrote:
coward.
zox625
Feb 9, 2012, 11:39:04 AM2/9/12
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VegasJerry
Feb 9, 2012, 12:03:03 PM2/9/12
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> >
> > > > Yea, actually, I have. They followed the procedure taught them in,
"Use of
> > > > Force Technique Training." It protects them; protects the citizens, and
> > > > stopped the idiot that didn't show the responsibility to take his
medicine
> > > > and ended up endangering the public, you stupid fucking idiot.
> >
> > > > Jerry 'n Vegas
> >
> > > > -------
> >
> > > If that is true, which I am sure it is, don't you think that maybe it
> > > should be taught that someone in a unresponsive COMA shouldn't be kicked
> > > in the ribs?
> >
> > It is.
> >
> > J..
> >
> >
> >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > > On Nov 8 2011 2:11 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > Jerry (almonst worthless) 'n Vegas
> >
> > > ----
> >
> > _______________________________________________________________________
>
> And yet you defend them, still.
And yet you didn't understand what she asked and I answered.
> > > > Yea, actually, I have. They followed the procedure taught them in,
"Use of
> > > > Force Technique Training." It protects them; protects the citizens, and
> > > > stopped the idiot that didn't show the responsibility to take his
medicine
> > > > and ended up endangering the public, you stupid fucking idiot.
> >
> > > > Jerry 'n Vegas
> >
> > > > -------
> >
> > > If that is true, which I am sure it is, don't you think that maybe it
> > > should be taught that someone in a unresponsive COMA shouldn't be kicked
> > > in the ribs?
> >
> > It is.
> >
> > J..
> >
> >
> >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > > On Nov 8 2011 2:11 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > Jerry (almonst worthless) 'n Vegas
> >
> > > ----
> >
> > _______________________________________________________________________
>
> And yet you defend them, still.
J..
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VegasJerry
Feb 9, 2012, 12:01:45 PM2/9/12
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No, make that clueless dodge noted.
J..
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VegasJerry
Feb 9, 2012, 12:03:47 PM2/9/12
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______________________________________________________________________
VegasJerry
Feb 9, 2012, 12:06:03 PM2/9/12
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On Feb 8 2012 2:56 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> On Feb 8, 3:23 pm, "VegasJerry" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Feb 8 2012 9:50 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 8, 4:02 pm, "VegasJerry" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > On Feb 7 2012 11:08 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> > >
>http://www.lvrj.com/news/video-shows-officers-beating-motorist-in-dia....
> On Feb 8, 3:23 pm, "VegasJerry" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Feb 8 2012 9:50 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 8, 4:02 pm, "VegasJerry" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > On Feb 7 2012 11:08 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > Adam Greene is on his stomach as a pack of police officers pile on
> > > > > him, driving their knees into his back and wrenching his arms and
> > > > > legs. One officer knees him in the ribs; another kicks him in the
> > > > > face.
> >
> > > > > "Stop resisting," officers on the video yell, but Greene, his face
> > > > > pushed into the pavement, hasn't resisted. He doesn't even move --
> > > > > maybe can't move -- because he's gone into diabetic shock caused by
> > > > > low blood sugar.
> >
> > > > > The video, recorded more than a year ago by a police car dashboard
> > > > > camera, was released Tuesday by Greene's lawyers. The same night, the
> > > > > Henderson City Council approved a settlement of $158,500 for Greene..
> > > > > Adam Greene is on his stomach as a pack of police officers pile on
> > > > > him, driving their knees into his back and wrenching his arms and
> > > > > legs. One officer knees him in the ribs; another kicks him in the
> > > > > face.
> >
> > > > > "Stop resisting," officers on the video yell, but Greene, his face
> > > > > pushed into the pavement, hasn't resisted. He doesn't even move --
> > > > > maybe can't move -- because he's gone into diabetic shock caused by
> > > > > low blood sugar.
> >
> > > > > The video, recorded more than a year ago by a police car dashboard
> > > > > camera, was released Tuesday by Greene's lawyers. The same night, the
> > > > > His wife received $99,000 from Henderson, which is just under the
> > > > > minimum amount that requires council approval.
> >
> > > > > Nevada Highway Patrol troopers also participated in the traffic stop
> > > > > but do not appear to kick or knee Greene on the video. The state has
> > > > > agreed to pay $35,000 to Greene for a total of $292,500 between the
> > > > > two agencies.
> >
> > > > > It was a Highway Patrol vehicle camera that captured the incident.
> >
> > > > > CAUGHT ON TAPE
> >
> > > > > A Highway Patrol trooper enters the scene first, gun drawn, and kicks
> > > > > the driver’s window of Greene’s four-door sedan. After several
> > > > > moments, the trooper opens the door.
> >
> > > > > The trooper, his gun still raised, then gives Greene conflicting
> > > > > commands. He first tells him not to move, then tells him to come
> > > > > forward.
> >
> > > > > A second trooper quickly cuffs Greene's wrist and pulls him from the
> > > > > car, which rolls forward until an officer stops it.
> >
> > > > > Greene flops to the ground, clearly dazed as five officers rush
him.. A
> > > > > minimum amount that requires council approval.
> >
> > > > > Nevada Highway Patrol troopers also participated in the traffic stop
> > > > > but do not appear to kick or knee Greene on the video. The state has
> > > > > agreed to pay $35,000 to Greene for a total of $292,500 between the
> > > > > two agencies.
> >
> > > > > It was a Highway Patrol vehicle camera that captured the incident.
> >
> > > > > CAUGHT ON TAPE
> >
> > > > > A Highway Patrol trooper enters the scene first, gun drawn, and kicks
> > > > > the driver’s window of Greene’s four-door sedan. After several
> > > > > moments, the trooper opens the door.
> >
> > > > > The trooper, his gun still raised, then gives Greene conflicting
> > > > > commands. He first tells him not to move, then tells him to come
> > > > > forward.
> >
> > > > > A second trooper quickly cuffs Greene's wrist and pulls him from the
> > > > > car, which rolls forward until an officer stops it.
> >
> > > > > Greene flops to the ground, clearly dazed as five officers rush
> The AUTOPSY, on the
> innocent man, showed the only substance in his blood WAS his
> medicine. And now you seem to be saying, that having a traffic
> accident justifies the police in killing him.
> FUCK YOU!!
Good dog.
(You are so fucking stupid it's funny)
_______________________________________________________________________
VegasJerry
Feb 9, 2012, 12:13:44 PM2/9/12
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On Feb 8 2012 10:27 PM, Tad Perry wrote:
> "Mossingen" <jhan...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:jgvcfb$182$1...@dont-email.me...
> > "Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:2f4fed2e-cfc9-4d61...@i2g2000vbv.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >>You've never proven shit, except that you are a good little fascist.
> >
> >
> > I've pointed out that the stories that you and Jason post have a recurring
> > theme, which is police reacting to on-the-street situations that appear
> > one way (threatening and possibly dangerous) but turn out to be something
> > different in reality.
> >
> > Fact is, if a 13-year-old pointed a harmless plastic gun at you, but it
> > looked real, you would probably fire at the kid. Then, you'd have to
> > listen to folks squawk about how you murdered an unarmed 13-year-old.
> >
> > In the link you posted to start this thread, at the beginning of the video
> > there is a guy sitting in a car that has just wrecked and they driver is
> > acting weird. You don't even acknowledge that the situation started that
> > way, you just harp on the facts that were known after the event. That's
> > not a good way to look at things.
>
> Sorry. This is too convenient. It's the responsibility of the cops to remain
> aware that things are not always what they appear to be.
Wait a minute. The cops are to remain aware of things they're not aware
> "Mossingen" <jhan...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:jgvcfb$182$1...@dont-email.me...
> > "Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:2f4fed2e-cfc9-4d61...@i2g2000vbv.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >>You've never proven shit, except that you are a good little fascist.
> >
> >
> > I've pointed out that the stories that you and Jason post have a recurring
> > theme, which is police reacting to on-the-street situations that appear
> > one way (threatening and possibly dangerous) but turn out to be something
> > different in reality.
> >
> > Fact is, if a 13-year-old pointed a harmless plastic gun at you, but it
> > looked real, you would probably fire at the kid. Then, you'd have to
> > listen to folks squawk about how you murdered an unarmed 13-year-old.
> >
> > In the link you posted to start this thread, at the beginning of the video
> > there is a guy sitting in a car that has just wrecked and they driver is
> > acting weird. You don't even acknowledge that the situation started that
> > way, you just harp on the facts that were known after the event. That's
> > not a good way to look at things.
>
> Sorry. This is too convenient. It's the responsibility of the cops to remain
> aware that things are not always what they appear to be.
of? Hello?
Are you starting to understand why 'civilians' just have no clue as to
what the job of the police is and how they do it? What makes you think you
know more than all the training and education at police academies and
colleges where they teach Police Science?
Do you tell your dentist which size drill to use? Do you call the military
and tell them how to attack the enemy? What makes you think you know more
about how the police should operate, than they do?
Jerry 'n Vegas
> The "Sorry, I
> thought you were free meat. My bad." doesn't cut it here. Now you're
> probably going to counter with an exceptional circumstance like a kid
> pointing a toy gun at a police officer, but a kid that stupid probably
> deserves to get blown away. We don't need that shit in the gene pool.
>
> tvp
Alim Nassor
Feb 9, 2012, 12:21:36 PM2/9/12
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VegasJerry
Feb 9, 2012, 12:22:13 PM2/9/12
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On Feb 8 2012 11:09 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> On Feb 8, 8:54 pm, "Mossingen" <jhanki...@cox.net> wrote:
> > "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:2f4fed2e-cfc9-4d61...@i2g2000vbv.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > >You've never proven shit, except that you are a good little fascist.
> >
> > I've pointed out that the stories that you and Jason post have a recurring
> > theme, which is police reacting to on-the-street situations that appear one
> > way (threatening and possibly dangerous) but turn out to be something
> > different in reality.
> >
> > Fact is, if a 13-year-old pointed a harmless plastic gun at you, but it
> > looked real, you would probably fire at the kid. Then, you'd have to
listen
> > to folks squawk about how you murdered an unarmed 13-year-old.
> >
> > In the link you posted to start this thread, at the beginning of the video
> > there is a guy sitting in a car that has just wrecked and they driver is
> > acting weird. You don't even acknowledge that the situation started that
> > way, you just harp on the facts that were known after the event. That's
not
> > a good way to look at things.
>
> The post you replied to was directed at Jerry. I've never called you
> a fascist.
> The driver is sitting there. I'f you ever seen someone in diabetic
> shock, you know they seem dazed, confused, etc.
So you know more about how to make a felony stop than the police. Gee, I
> On Feb 8, 8:54 pm, "Mossingen" <jhanki...@cox.net> wrote:
> > "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:2f4fed2e-cfc9-4d61...@i2g2000vbv.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > >You've never proven shit, except that you are a good little fascist.
> >
> > I've pointed out that the stories that you and Jason post have a recurring
> > theme, which is police reacting to on-the-street situations that appear one
> > way (threatening and possibly dangerous) but turn out to be something
> > different in reality.
> >
> > Fact is, if a 13-year-old pointed a harmless plastic gun at you, but it
> > looked real, you would probably fire at the kid. Then, you'd have to
listen
> > to folks squawk about how you murdered an unarmed 13-year-old.
> >
> > In the link you posted to start this thread, at the beginning of the video
> > there is a guy sitting in a car that has just wrecked and they driver is
> > acting weird. You don't even acknowledge that the situation started that
> > way, you just harp on the facts that were known after the event. That's
not
> > a good way to look at things.
>
> The post you replied to was directed at Jerry. I've never called you
> a fascist.
> The driver is sitting there. I'f you ever seen someone in diabetic
> shock, you know they seem dazed, confused, etc.
wonder why so many cops got shot when they did it your way?
> The cops first action is to run up, kick the window
bad day. Gee, I wonder why the police don't do that. You don't suppose
it's because they've found they can get killed, doing it that way? You
don’t suppose that's why, when being trained in Use of Force Techniques,
they were shown that too many cops got killed do it your way?
> (I wonder what he thought his half ass kung-fu was going to do)
Technique. Does that answer your question? I doubt it, because you're
really fucking stupid.
Jerry
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Alim Nassor
Feb 9, 2012, 12:24:15 PM2/9/12
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tell you don't. And you said the guy was irresponsible and didn't
take his meds, but the autopsy showed he did. So you are the one who
can't read.
VegasJerry
Feb 9, 2012, 12:25:11 PM2/9/12
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have. Whereas, if you have diabetes, you have the responsibility to make
sure you're not a danger to others on the road. Including the police.
Jerry
Thank god the polite,
> respectful and helpful police were there to take care of this situation.
> An untrained civilian might have sprained a toe kicking that guy. It takes
> years of training to beat up a helpless person safely!
>
> Dave (channeling Jerry) the Clueless
>
> -------
> Canada, keeping the brown people to a minimum for 80 years!
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
Alim Nassor
Feb 9, 2012, 12:29:55 PM2/9/12
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ninjas was trained to run up and kick the drivers window when making a
stop. Show me you ignorant motherfucker, I want to see where in the
"Use of Force Technique" that is says to pretend you are Bruce Lee.
You idiot. Show me too, where in your super secret technique that
it trains you assholes to run up like a fucking coward when 4 other
guys already have him down, and kick the victim repeatedly in the
face. You can't fucking do it.
VegasJerry
Feb 9, 2012, 12:34:13 PM2/9/12
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On Feb 8 2012 2:55 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> On Feb 8, 2:49 pm, "Robert Ladd" <rla...@cox.net> wrote:
> > "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> >
>
news:b55143fc-8fec-4b4f...@dp8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...http://www.lvrj.com/news/video-shows-officers-beating-motorist-in-dia...
Fuck you; there already is accountability, you stupid, ignorant asshole.
If you weren’t so fucking stupid you'd know it.
> instead of a slap on the wrist liken they usually get,
Gee, so there IS accountability. See what we mean when we say you're
stupid? How many time must I show that you're an idiot before you start
getting the picture?
> even when someone dies. These cocksuckers stick together, no matter
> what, as evidenced by jerry the loon,
You got as much 'evidence' as you have brains. Zero.
Jerry 'n Vegas
> who can never bring himself to be
> critical of a cop like these douches, who beat the fuck out of a man
> in a diabetic coma, or the fucking murderer who tazed a dazed man who
> had had a traffic accident 5 times, resulting in that mans death.
_______________________________________________________________________
> On Feb 8, 2:49 pm, "Robert Ladd" <rla...@cox.net> wrote:
> > "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> >
>
> >
> > Adam Greene is on his stomach as a pack of police officers pile on
> > him, driving their knees into his back and wrenching his arms and
> > legs. One officer knees him in the ribs; another kicks him in the
> > face.
> >
> > "Stop resisting," officers on the video yell, but Greene, his face
> > pushed into the pavement, hasn't resisted. He doesn't even move --
> > maybe can't move -- because he's gone into diabetic shock caused by
> > low blood sugar.
> >
> > The video, recorded more than a year ago by a police car dashboard
> > camera, was released Tuesday by Greene's lawyers. The same night, the
> > Henderson City Council approved a settlement of $158,500 for Greene.
> > Adam Greene is on his stomach as a pack of police officers pile on
> > him, driving their knees into his back and wrenching his arms and
> > legs. One officer knees him in the ribs; another kicks him in the
> > face.
> >
> > "Stop resisting," officers on the video yell, but Greene, his face
> > pushed into the pavement, hasn't resisted. He doesn't even move --
> > maybe can't move -- because he's gone into diabetic shock caused by
> > low blood sugar.
> >
> > The video, recorded more than a year ago by a police car dashboard
> > camera, was released Tuesday by Greene's lawyers. The same night, the
> > Henderson City Council approved a settlement of $158,500 for Greene.
> > His wife received $99,000 from Henderson, which is just under the
> > minimum amount that requires council approval.
> >
> > Nevada Highway Patrol troopers also participated in the traffic stop
> > but do not appear to kick or knee Greene on the video. The state has
> > agreed to pay $35,000 to Greene for a total of $292,500 between the
> > two agencies.
> >
> > It was a Highway Patrol vehicle camera that captured the incident.
> >
> > CAUGHT ON TAPE
> >
> > A Highway Patrol trooper enters the scene first, gun drawn, and kicks
> > the driver’s window of Greene’s four-door sedan. After several
> > moments, the trooper opens the door.
> >
> > The trooper, his gun still raised, then gives Greene conflicting
> > commands. He first tells him not to move, then tells him to come
> > forward.
> >
> > A second trooper quickly cuffs Greene's wrist and pulls him from the
> > car, which rolls forward until an officer stops it.
> >
> > Greene flops to the ground, clearly dazed as five officers rush him. A
> > minimum amount that requires council approval.
> >
> > Nevada Highway Patrol troopers also participated in the traffic stop
> > but do not appear to kick or knee Greene on the video. The state has
> > agreed to pay $35,000 to Greene for a total of $292,500 between the
> > two agencies.
> >
> > It was a Highway Patrol vehicle camera that captured the incident.
> >
> > CAUGHT ON TAPE
> >
> > A Highway Patrol trooper enters the scene first, gun drawn, and kicks
> > the driver’s window of Greene’s four-door sedan. After several
> > moments, the trooper opens the door.
> >
> > The trooper, his gun still raised, then gives Greene conflicting
> > commands. He first tells him not to move, then tells him to come
> > forward.
> >
> > A second trooper quickly cuffs Greene's wrist and pulls him from the
> > car, which rolls forward until an officer stops it.
> >
> > ************************************************************
> > Alim, I don't know what point you and Jason keep trying to make in posting
> > these things. Do you not see that they are just like Bea posting a gun
> > shooting event? In both cases we have anomaly situations out of thousands
> > to millions of positive outcomes. In neither situation do any of you have
> > some sort of realistic constructive solution.
> >
> > We need the police force. What are you suggesting? I can't even guess
what
> > your point is because every time I try to finish one of your posts with
some
> > solution that seems logical (which YOU guys never do), I can't create a
> > valid, logical conclusion. Where are you heading with this -- All cops
> > should be fired? -- We should abandon all law enforcement and let citizens
> > settle their problems themselves?
> >
> > Obviously, the nature of the beast attracts many individuals that have
> > inferior feelings and want the power they can get from the job, but how do
> > you eliminate that without firing the entire police force. Like I respond
> > to Bea about guns, do you believe we'd be safer if we banned them? Do you
> > think we'd be safer if we eliminated police?
> >
> > I'm honestly trying to see your point, but I haven't seen a hint of a
> > solution. If your view from the inside suggests that it's that bad on all
> > forces then where do we go from here?
> >
> > Robert Ladd
>
> I want some fucking accountability for these assholes motherfuckers,
> > Alim, I don't know what point you and Jason keep trying to make in posting
> > these things. Do you not see that they are just like Bea posting a gun
> > shooting event? In both cases we have anomaly situations out of thousands
> > to millions of positive outcomes. In neither situation do any of you have
> > some sort of realistic constructive solution.
> >
> > We need the police force. What are you suggesting? I can't even guess
what
> > your point is because every time I try to finish one of your posts with
some
> > solution that seems logical (which YOU guys never do), I can't create a
> > valid, logical conclusion. Where are you heading with this -- All cops
> > should be fired? -- We should abandon all law enforcement and let citizens
> > settle their problems themselves?
> >
> > Obviously, the nature of the beast attracts many individuals that have
> > inferior feelings and want the power they can get from the job, but how do
> > you eliminate that without firing the entire police force. Like I respond
> > to Bea about guns, do you believe we'd be safer if we banned them? Do you
> > think we'd be safer if we eliminated police?
> >
> > I'm honestly trying to see your point, but I haven't seen a hint of a
> > solution. If your view from the inside suggests that it's that bad on all
> > forces then where do we go from here?
> >
> > Robert Ladd
>
Fuck you; there already is accountability, you stupid, ignorant asshole.
If you weren’t so fucking stupid you'd know it.
> instead of a slap on the wrist liken they usually get,
Gee, so there IS accountability. See what we mean when we say you're
stupid? How many time must I show that you're an idiot before you start
getting the picture?
> even when someone dies. These cocksuckers stick together, no matter
> what, as evidenced by jerry the loon,
You got as much 'evidence' as you have brains. Zero.
Jerry 'n Vegas
> who can never bring himself to be
> critical of a cop like these douches, who beat the fuck out of a man
> in a diabetic coma, or the fucking murderer who tazed a dazed man who
> had had a traffic accident 5 times, resulting in that mans death.
_______________________________________________________________________
Bea Foroni
Feb 9, 2012, 12:32:08 PM2/9/12
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On Feb 8, 12:49 pm, "Robert Ladd" <rla...@cox.net> wrote:
> Alim, I don't know what point you and Jason keep trying to make in posting
> these things. Do you not see that they are just like Bea posting a gun
> shooting event?
I post dozens of "shooting events" when someone posts an article
> Alim, I don't know what point you and Jason keep trying to make in posting
> these things. Do you not see that they are just like Bea posting a gun
> shooting event?
about a gun used in"defense". Not saying ban the gun, just pointing
out for every case of a gun used to "save a life", there are many more
showing the gun taking away innocent lives (plural of life).
Alim Nassor
Feb 9, 2012, 12:39:28 PM2/9/12
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expected. Kill a defenseless man, get a slap on the wrist. And you
call me stupid. You are a sorry sack of shit.
VegasJerry
Feb 9, 2012, 12:46:32 PM2/9/12
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> news:b55143fc-8fec-4b4f...@dp8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>
http://www.lvrj.com/news/video-shows-officers-beating-motorist-in-diabetic-shock-138901274.html
person resisting arrest,
> "Stop resisting," officers on the video yell, but Greene, his face
> pushed into the pavement, hasn't resisted.
Yea, actually he has. He didn't stop. He didn't open the car door. He
refused to get out. And why do you suppose they're having trouble cuffing
him? He was resisting.
> He doesn't even move
Except he was moving. Why do you think they had trouble cuffing him?
> maybe can't move -- because he's gone into diabetic shock caused by
> low blood sugar.
He's moving. Get over it.
> The video, recorded more than a year ago by a police car dashboard
> camera, was released Tuesday by Greene's lawyers. The same night, the
> Henderson City Council approved a settlement of $158,500 for Greene.
We see this happening continually where the police know that uneducated
juries would find fault with the police in this sort of action and in the
shootings we've seen in the press. So they settle out of court. But in the
end, you continue to see these types of arrest procedures continuing
because it's what the officers have to do. You'll be seeing the same
videos in the future. Guaranteed.
> His wife received $99,000 from Henderson, which is just under the
> minimum amount that requires council approval.
>
> Nevada Highway Patrol troopers also participated in the traffic stop
> but do not appear to kick or knee Greene on the video. The state has
> agreed to pay $35,000 to Greene for a total of $292,500 between the
> two agencies.
See? They know (and the lawyer knows) what would happen in front of a
jury. Remember the OJ jury?
Notice the police picked ONE of the police to 'discipline' yet none of the
others? Why not? As I stated, it's the results of year of experience,
resulting in "Use of Force Technique Training," that protect the police
while protecting the public. You and the public simply have no understand
of what it takes to make these sorts of stops and arrests. You just expect
the police to wander up to a window of a car and tap on the window and ask
if they're having a bad day. Too many cops have been shot doing that.
Jerry 'n Vegas
------
>
http://www.lvrj.com/news/video-shows-officers-beating-motorist-in-diabetic-shock-138901274.html
>
> Adam Greene is on his stomach as a pack of police officers pile on
> him, driving their knees into his back and wrenching his arms and
> legs. One officer knees him in the ribs; another kicks him in the
> face.
Typical procedure as per Use of Force Technique; when trying to cuff a
> Adam Greene is on his stomach as a pack of police officers pile on
> him, driving their knees into his back and wrenching his arms and
> legs. One officer knees him in the ribs; another kicks him in the
> face.
person resisting arrest,
> "Stop resisting," officers on the video yell, but Greene, his face
> pushed into the pavement, hasn't resisted.
refused to get out. And why do you suppose they're having trouble cuffing
him? He was resisting.
> He doesn't even move
> maybe can't move -- because he's gone into diabetic shock caused by
> low blood sugar.
> The video, recorded more than a year ago by a police car dashboard
> camera, was released Tuesday by Greene's lawyers. The same night, the
> Henderson City Council approved a settlement of $158,500 for Greene.
juries would find fault with the police in this sort of action and in the
shootings we've seen in the press. So they settle out of court. But in the
end, you continue to see these types of arrest procedures continuing
because it's what the officers have to do. You'll be seeing the same
videos in the future. Guaranteed.
> His wife received $99,000 from Henderson, which is just under the
> minimum amount that requires council approval.
>
> Nevada Highway Patrol troopers also participated in the traffic stop
> but do not appear to kick or knee Greene on the video. The state has
> agreed to pay $35,000 to Greene for a total of $292,500 between the
> two agencies.
jury. Remember the OJ jury?
Notice the police picked ONE of the police to 'discipline' yet none of the
others? Why not? As I stated, it's the results of year of experience,
resulting in "Use of Force Technique Training," that protect the police
while protecting the public. You and the public simply have no understand
of what it takes to make these sorts of stops and arrests. You just expect
the police to wander up to a window of a car and tap on the window and ask
if they're having a bad day. Too many cops have been shot doing that.
Jerry 'n Vegas
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bratt
Feb 9, 2012, 1:07:39 PM2/9/12
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there is a pistol in evidence on the seat and the bad guy runs away, do
you think the media reports it? Do you think if someone looks out their
peephole at home and says go away, I have a gun the media reports it? How
can anyone possibly know how many attempted robberies etc. were prevented
by someone having a gun?
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On Nov 8 2011 2:11 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
Jerry (almonst worthless) 'n Vegas
bratt
Feb 9, 2012, 1:12:29 PM2/9/12
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On Feb 9 2012 11:46 AM, VegasJerry wrote:
> Yea, actually he has. He didn't stop. He didn't open the car door. He
> refused to get out. And why do you suppose they're having trouble cuffing
> him? He was resisting.
Just a thought, but maybe because they told him NOT TO MOVE he didn't get
> Yea, actually he has. He didn't stop. He didn't open the car door. He
> refused to get out. And why do you suppose they're having trouble cuffing
> him? He was resisting.
out of the car?
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On Nov 8 2011 2:11 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
Jerry (almonst worthless) 'n Vegas
Bea Foroni
Feb 9, 2012, 1:52:24 PM2/9/12
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On Feb 9, 10:07 am, "bratt" <a890...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
> Because those aren't reported. If someone attempts to hi-jack a car and
> there is a pistol in evidence on the seat and the bad guy runs away, do
> you think the media reports it? Do you think if someone looks out their
> peephole at home and says go away, I have a gun the media reports it? How
> can anyone possibly know how many attempted robberies etc. were prevented
> by someone having a gun?
>
>
You're absolutely correct in that we'll never know how many times the
>
> Because those aren't reported. If someone attempts to hi-jack a car and
> there is a pistol in evidence on the seat and the bad guy runs away, do
> you think the media reports it? Do you think if someone looks out their
> peephole at home and says go away, I have a gun the media reports it? How
> can anyone possibly know how many attempted robberies etc. were prevented
> by someone having a gun?
>
>
threat of guns has been used to thwart crime. We could use the number
of .times guns have been used, as a barometer of the prevelance of gun
usage.
If you got off the idea that guns are good, looked at the stats
objectively, you'd throw away your gun and take other measures.
Look through your peephole and tell the mean man your property is
covered with CCTV. Put a decent lock and door between you and the
badguy. Buy a dog. Know your neighbors. Support community mental
health and drug rehab programs. Or move to the Antartic.
Lock your doors when driving. Be aware and leave plenty of room for
escape when stopped. Know where you're going and how to get there. Get
LowJack or OnStar. Give the badguy what he wants and live to tell
about it.
Don't leave valuables out to tempt robbers. Cooperate fully. Alarms
and CCTV keep the most vulnerable workers, convience store and taxi
drivers, a heck of alot safer than if they were all pistol packin'.
Every gun used by badguys was at one time a legal gun. Ergo, if there
were no legal guns, badguys would have none.
So? Where can I get a decent pizza in this town?
Back to the cops; They should allow many of their arrestees to
escape. The police know who they are, where they live, and how to
contact them. Let the drunk go home, sleep it off and arrest them
later when things have calmed down.
Cops are not my friends. They are an arm of the Executive branch of
the government. If they are messing with me, I would look for the
J,udicial branch to look out for me. Best if neither gets too strong.
Tad Perry
Feb 9, 2012, 1:54:18 PM2/9/12
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"VegasJerry" <jer...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:8fbd09x...@app-01.ezprovider.com...
You realize that your eloquent words are being used to justify excessive
force against innocent citizens, right?
First, the excessive force isn't even necessary against the criminals, you
guys just like to kick some ass sometimes.
Next, it's never called for when you jump to the conclusion that a person is
a criminal just because your testosterone level is running high and you need
to kick some ass.
> Do you tell your dentist which size drill to use? Do you call the military
> and tell them how to attack the enemy? What makes you think you know more
> about how the police should operate, than they do?
Because cops are commonly big, dumb, muscle-bound idiots who should be
trained to use their heads at least as much as their brawn. They are almost
always ex-football players and military and like violence. When you have the
power to totally fuck someone over if you read a situation wrong, you need
to get good at reading situations right. It's not your place to get a lick
in on the "scumbags" and expect forgiveness when you get it wrong.
NO FREE PASS ON POLICE BRUTALITY.
tvp
news:8fbd09x...@app-01.ezprovider.com...
force against innocent citizens, right?
First, the excessive force isn't even necessary against the criminals, you
guys just like to kick some ass sometimes.
Next, it's never called for when you jump to the conclusion that a person is
a criminal just because your testosterone level is running high and you need
to kick some ass.
> Do you tell your dentist which size drill to use? Do you call the military
> and tell them how to attack the enemy? What makes you think you know more
> about how the police should operate, than they do?
trained to use their heads at least as much as their brawn. They are almost
always ex-football players and military and like violence. When you have the
power to totally fuck someone over if you read a situation wrong, you need
to get good at reading situations right. It's not your place to get a lick
in on the "scumbags" and expect forgiveness when you get it wrong.
NO FREE PASS ON POLICE BRUTALITY.
tvp
Dave the Clueless
Feb 9, 2012, 2:57:31 PM2/9/12
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can help you with the big words.
Dave the Clueless
Feb 9, 2012, 2:59:59 PM2/9/12
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On Feb 9 2012 10:45 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> > > The driver is sitting there. I'f you ever seen someone in diabetic
> > > shock, you know they seem dazed, confused, etc. The cops first action
> > > is to run up, kick the window (I wonder what he thought his half ass
> > > kung-fu was going to do) and the proceed to shout conflicting orders
> > > at him. There was no attempt to assess the situation beyond, "lets
> > > kick his ass".
> >
> > Hey, if you're gonna go driving when you know you have diabetes you
> > deserve to have the shit kicked out of you. Thank god the polite,
> > respectful and helpful police were there to take care of this situation.
> > An untrained civilian might have sprained a toe kicking that guy. It takes
> > years of training to beat up a helpless person safely!
> >
> > Dave (channeling Jerry) the Clueless
>
> >
> > > The driver is sitting there. I'f you ever seen someone in diabetic
> > > shock, you know they seem dazed, confused, etc. The cops first action
> > > is to run up, kick the window (I wonder what he thought his half ass
> > > kung-fu was going to do) and the proceed to shout conflicting orders
> > > at him. There was no attempt to assess the situation beyond, "lets
> > > kick his ass".
> >
> > Hey, if you're gonna go driving when you know you have diabetes you
> > deserve to have the shit kicked out of you. Thank god the polite,
> > respectful and helpful police were there to take care of this situation.
> > An untrained civilian might have sprained a toe kicking that guy. It takes
> > years of training to beat up a helpless person safely!
> >
> > Dave (channeling Jerry) the Clueless
>
> I guarantee you the guy kicking the victim in the face is a yellow dog
> coward.
Sure. But I'll bet he kicked that face in a professional manner! Training,
> coward.
you know. It's why civilians should leave kicking the shit out of helpless
people to the police.
-------
Canada, keeping the brown people to a minimum for 80 years!
Dave the Clueless
Feb 9, 2012, 3:03:09 PM2/9/12
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On Feb 9 2012 1:25 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > The driver is sitting there. I'f you ever seen someone in diabetic
> > > shock, you know they seem dazed, confused, etc. The cops first action
> > > is to run up, kick the window (I wonder what he thought his half ass
> > > kung-fu was going to do) and the proceed to shout conflicting orders
> > > at him. There was no attempt to assess the situation beyond, "lets
> > > kick his ass".
> >
> > Hey, if you're gonna go driving when you know you have diabetes you
> > deserve to have the shit kicked out of you.
>
> Thus showing the extreme limits of what limited intelligence you might
> have. Whereas, if you have diabetes, you have the responsibility to make
> sure you're not a danger to others on the road. Including the police.
>
> Jerry
Or they'll kick the shit out of you while you lay there helpless, right?
> > > The driver is sitting there. I'f you ever seen someone in diabetic
> > > shock, you know they seem dazed, confused, etc. The cops first action
> > > is to run up, kick the window (I wonder what he thought his half ass
> > > kung-fu was going to do) and the proceed to shout conflicting orders
> > > at him. There was no attempt to assess the situation beyond, "lets
> > > kick his ass".
> >
> > Hey, if you're gonna go driving when you know you have diabetes you
> > deserve to have the shit kicked out of you.
>
> Thus showing the extreme limits of what limited intelligence you might
> have. Whereas, if you have diabetes, you have the responsibility to make
> sure you're not a danger to others on the road. Including the police.
>
> Jerry
Justice, Jerry-style!
http://www.astroglide.com/ For the next time you watch the video. I'd
hate for you to friction burn your dick.
-------
Canada, keeping the brown people to a minimum for 80 years!
Dave the Clueless
Feb 9, 2012, 3:16:26 PM2/9/12
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On Feb 9 2012 1:29 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> > So you know more about how to make a felony stop than the police. Gee, I
> > wonder why so many cops got shot when they did it your way?
> >
> > > The cops first action is to run up, kick the window
> >
> > And yours is to walk up, tap on the window, and ask if they're having a
> > bad day. Gee, I wonder why the police don't do that. You don't suppose
> > it's because they've found they can get killed, doing it that way? You
> > don’t suppose that's why, when being trained in Use of Force Techniques,
> > they were shown that too many cops got killed do it your way?
> >
> > > (I wonder what he thought his half ass kung-fu was going to do)
> >
> > You wonder because you've no clue as to what they teach in Use of Force
> > Technique. Does that answer your question? I doubt it, because you're
> > really fucking stupid.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > ----
>
> LOL, you fucking idiot, show me where you or your fellow wannabe
> ninjas was trained to run up and kick the drivers window when making a
> stop. Show me you ignorant motherfucker, I want to see where in the
> "Use of Force Technique" that is says to pretend you are Bruce Lee.
> You idiot. Show me too, where in your super secret technique that
> it trains you assholes to run up like a fucking coward when 4 other
> guys already have him down, and kick the victim repeatedly in the
> face. You can't fucking do it.
It's a super-secret special school that ignorant citizens like us don't
> > So you know more about how to make a felony stop than the police. Gee, I
> > wonder why so many cops got shot when they did it your way?
> >
> > > The cops first action is to run up, kick the window
> >
> > And yours is to walk up, tap on the window, and ask if they're having a
> > bad day. Gee, I wonder why the police don't do that. You don't suppose
> > it's because they've found they can get killed, doing it that way? You
> > don’t suppose that's why, when being trained in Use of Force Techniques,
> > they were shown that too many cops got killed do it your way?
> >
> > > (I wonder what he thought his half ass kung-fu was going to do)
> >
> > You wonder because you've no clue as to what they teach in Use of Force
> > Technique. Does that answer your question? I doubt it, because you're
> > really fucking stupid.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > ----
>
> LOL, you fucking idiot, show me where you or your fellow wannabe
> ninjas was trained to run up and kick the drivers window when making a
> stop. Show me you ignorant motherfucker, I want to see where in the
> "Use of Force Technique" that is says to pretend you are Bruce Lee.
> You idiot. Show me too, where in your super secret technique that
> it trains you assholes to run up like a fucking coward when 4 other
> guys already have him down, and kick the victim repeatedly in the
> face. You can't fucking do it.
know about.
From the Secret Cop Handbook: "Beating the Shit out of Helpless Citizens"
is an exhaustive 8 day course in administering corrective force with skill
and efficiency. A good cop doesn't leave justice to the courts, he
administers it right there on the scene!
-------
Canada, keeping the brown people to a minimum for 80 years!
Dave the Clueless
Feb 9, 2012, 3:34:08 PM2/9/12
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On Feb 9 2012 1:46 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
> On Feb 8 2012 3:40 PM, Tad Perry wrote:
>
> > "Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:b55143fc-8fec-4b4f...@dp8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> >
>
http://www.lvrj.com/news/video-shows-officers-beating-motorist-in-diabetic-shock-138901274.html
> >
> > Adam Greene is on his stomach as a pack of police officers pile on
> > him, driving their knees into his back and wrenching his arms and
> > legs. One officer knees him in the ribs; another kicks him in the
> > face.
>
> Typical procedure as per Use of Force Technique; when trying to cuff a
> person resisting arrest,
>
I'd like to see some evidence of that other than the addled ramblings of a
> On Feb 8 2012 3:40 PM, Tad Perry wrote:
>
> > "Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:b55143fc-8fec-4b4f...@dp8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> >
>
http://www.lvrj.com/news/video-shows-officers-beating-motorist-in-diabetic-shock-138901274.html
> >
> > Adam Greene is on his stomach as a pack of police officers pile on
> > him, driving their knees into his back and wrenching his arms and
> > legs. One officer knees him in the ribs; another kicks him in the
> > face.
>
> Typical procedure as per Use of Force Technique; when trying to cuff a
> person resisting arrest,
>
sad old fool.
>
> > "Stop resisting," officers on the video yell, but Greene, his face
> > pushed into the pavement, hasn't resisted.
>
> Yea, actually he has. He didn't stop. He didn't open the car door. He
> refused to get out. And why do you suppose they're having trouble cuffing
> him? He was resisting.
>
> > He doesn't even move
>
> Except he was moving. Why do you think they had trouble cuffing him?
>
> > maybe can't move -- because he's gone into diabetic shock caused by
> > low blood sugar.
>
> He's moving. Get over it.
>
>
> > The video, recorded more than a year ago by a police car dashboard
> > camera, was released Tuesday by Greene's lawyers. The same night, the
> > Henderson City Council approved a settlement of $158,500 for Greene.
>
> We see this happening continually where the police know that uneducated
> juries would find fault with the police in this sort of action and in the
> shootings we've seen in the press. So they settle out of court. But in the
> end, you continue to see these types of arrest procedures continuing
> because it's what the officers have to do. You'll be seeing the same
> videos in the future. Guaranteed.
lawfully detained?
>
> > His wife received $99,000 from Henderson, which is just under the
> > minimum amount that requires council approval.
> >
> > Nevada Highway Patrol troopers also participated in the traffic stop
> > but do not appear to kick or knee Greene on the video. The state has
> > agreed to pay $35,000 to Greene for a total of $292,500 between the
> > two agencies.
>
> See? They know (and the lawyer knows) what would happen in front of a
> jury. Remember the OJ jury?
cops were brutal sadistic pigs. Good point.
> Notice the police picked ONE of the police to 'discipline' yet none of the
> others? Why not? As I stated, it's the results of year of experience,
> resulting in "Use of Force Technique Training," that protect the police
> while protecting the public. You and the public simply have no understand
> of what it takes to make these sorts of stops and arrests. You just expect
> the police to wander up to a window of a car and tap on the window and ask
> if they're having a bad day. Too many cops have been shot doing that.
>
> Jerry 'n Vegas
>
> ------
can't, because it doesn't
Mossingen
Feb 10, 2012, 1:39:00 AM2/10/12
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"Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b41c881f-a494-4834...@eb6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>The driver is sitting there. I'f you ever seen someone in diabetic
>shock, you know they seem dazed, confused, etc.
those same symptoms?
>The cops first action
>is to run up, kick the window (I wonder what he thought his half ass
>kung-fu was going to do) and the proceed to shout conflicting orders
>at him. There was no attempt to assess the situation beyond, "lets
>kick his ass".
In other words, you know now that the driver was a diabetic, thus you
>kung-fu was going to do) and the proceed to shout conflicting orders
>at him. There was no attempt to assess the situation beyond, "lets
>kick his ass".
believe that the cops acted incorrectly. Ever consider that each of those
cops have probably stopped over a thousand drunk-drivers apiece, many
beligerant drunks wanting to fight or trying to avoid being arrested for DUI
and causing an accident? You expect them to pussy-foot around in this
situation based upon the possibility that this might be the 1:1,000 that is
a diabetic (who was driving when he shouldn't be). The better course is to
firmly take control of the situation and sort things out later. It almost
always is.
Mossingen
Feb 10, 2012, 1:42:03 AM2/10/12
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"Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>The problem James, is there seems to be no attempt to determine what
>is actually occurring until after they have beaten or killed someone.
Sounds like you have no clue what big-city police work is like. Cops who
equivocate and hesitate get killed out there. It is almost always best to
physically secure any possible threat and then sort it out later.
In Mayberry, Barney can poke around and ask Otis if he's feeling all right.
In Dallas, Otis will stick a shiv in your liver.
Dave the Clueless
Feb 10, 2012, 2:01:00 PM2/10/12
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doin' the right thing.
-------
Canada, keeping the brown people to a minimum for 80 years!
Alim Nassor
Feb 10, 2012, 3:09:27 PM2/10/12
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On Feb 10, 12:42 am, "Mossingen" <jhanki...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Now you sound like Bill. Is that the best comment you could come up
with? Pretty sad.
> "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
with? Pretty sad.
Alim Nassor
Feb 10, 2012, 3:07:57 PM2/10/12
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On Feb 10, 12:39 am, "Mossingen" <jhanki...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Good lord. I arrested more drunks and drunk drivers than I can
remember. Most of the time with no backup, never with 5 other cops
kicking and beating the shit of the guy. They never even tried to get
him out without fucking him over. You want to firmly take control and
sort it out in the hospital or the morgue, like they did when they
tazed the other guy having the seizure? Tazed him FIVE times.
Neither you nor Jerry has explained what the fuck the cop was doing
when he kung fu'd the window. That was a classic move. Kinda like
Billy Ray Valentines 'quart of blood" technique. I'm still waiting
for you to somehow explain what the asshole was accomplishing when he
ran up and kicked the guy in the face over and over, when he was
already down, with 4 other guys on top of him.
> "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
remember. Most of the time with no backup, never with 5 other cops
kicking and beating the shit of the guy. They never even tried to get
him out without fucking him over. You want to firmly take control and
sort it out in the hospital or the morgue, like they did when they
tazed the other guy having the seizure? Tazed him FIVE times.
Neither you nor Jerry has explained what the fuck the cop was doing
when he kung fu'd the window. That was a classic move. Kinda like
Billy Ray Valentines 'quart of blood" technique. I'm still waiting
for you to somehow explain what the asshole was accomplishing when he
ran up and kicked the guy in the face over and over, when he was
already down, with 4 other guys on top of him.
VegasJerry
Feb 10, 2012, 5:36:15 PM2/10/12
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On Feb 9 2012 9:21 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> On Feb 9, 11:03 am, "VegasJerry" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Feb 8 2012 2:57 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 8, 4:05 pm, "VegasJerry" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > On Feb 8 2012 1:44 PM, bratt wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Feb 8 2012 3:23 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
> >
> > > > > > On Feb 8 2012 9:50 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > On Feb 8, 4:02 pm, "VegasJerry" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Feb 7 2012 11:08 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> > >
>http://www.lvrj.com/news/video-shows-officers-beating-motorist-in-dia....
> On Feb 9, 11:03 am, "VegasJerry" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Feb 8 2012 2:57 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 8, 4:05 pm, "VegasJerry" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > On Feb 8 2012 1:44 PM, bratt wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Feb 8 2012 3:23 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
> >
> > > > > > On Feb 8 2012 9:50 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > On Feb 8, 4:02 pm, "VegasJerry" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Feb 7 2012 11:08 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> > >
answered.
______________________________________________________________________
VegasJerry
Feb 10, 2012, 5:37:21 PM2/10/12
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Jerry
See if your neighbors have a 6 year old who
> can help you with the big words.
>
> -------
> Canada, keeping the brown people to a minimum for 80 years!
>
> _____________________________________________________________________
VegasJerry
Feb 10, 2012, 5:47:50 PM2/10/12
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> >
> > Are you starting to understand why 'civilians' just have no clue as to
> > what the job of the police is and how they do it? What makes you think you
> > know more than all the training and education at police academies and
> > colleges where they teach Police Science?
>
> You realize that
> your eloquent words are being used to justify excessive
> force against innocent citizens, right?
> First, the excessive force isn't even necessary against the criminals,
> you guys just like to kick some ass sometimes.
> Next, it's never called for when you jump to the conclusion that a person is
> a criminal just because your testosterone level is running high and you need
> to kick some ass.
those simply questions? Is it because you've discovered they prove you
wrong?
> > Do you tell your dentist which size drill to use? Do you call the military
> > and tell them how to attack the enemy? What makes you think you know more
> > about how the police should operate, than they do?
>
> Because cops are commonly big, dumb, muscle-bound idiots
questions that show you wrong. simply go back to making up bullshit to
cover your ignorance.
Learn to lose.
who should be
> trained to use their heads at least as much as their brawn. They are almost
> always ex-football players and military and like violence. When you have the
> power to totally fuck someone over if you read a situation wrong, you need
> to get good at reading situations right. It's not your place to get a lick
> in on the "scumbags" and expect forgiveness when you get it wrong.
>
> NO FREE PASS ON POLICE BRUTALITY.
>
> tvp
VegasJerry
Feb 10, 2012, 5:52:58 PM2/10/12
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On Feb 9 2012 12:03 PM, Dave the Clueless wrote:
> On Feb 9 2012 1:25 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
>
> > > > The driver is sitting there. I'f you ever seen someone in diabetic
> > > > shock, you know they seem dazed, confused, etc. The cops first action
> > > > is to run up, kick the window (I wonder what he thought his half ass
> > > > kung-fu was going to do) and the proceed to shout conflicting orders
> > > > at him. There was no attempt to assess the situation beyond, "lets
> > > > kick his ass".
> > >
> > > Hey, if you're gonna go driving when you know you have diabetes you
> > > deserve to have the shit kicked out of you.
> >
> > Thus showing the extreme limits of what limited intelligence you might
> > have. Whereas, if you have diabetes, you have the responsibility to make
> > sure you're not a danger to others on the road. Including the police.
> >
> > Jerry
>
> Or they'll kick the shit out of you while you lay there helpless, right?
Nope.
> On Feb 9 2012 1:25 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
>
> > > > The driver is sitting there. I'f you ever seen someone in diabetic
> > > > shock, you know they seem dazed, confused, etc. The cops first action
> > > > is to run up, kick the window (I wonder what he thought his half ass
> > > > kung-fu was going to do) and the proceed to shout conflicting orders
> > > > at him. There was no attempt to assess the situation beyond, "lets
> > > > kick his ass".
> > >
> > > Hey, if you're gonna go driving when you know you have diabetes you
> > > deserve to have the shit kicked out of you.
> >
> > Thus showing the extreme limits of what limited intelligence you might
> > have. Whereas, if you have diabetes, you have the responsibility to make
> > sure you're not a danger to others on the road. Including the police.
> >
> > Jerry
>
> Or they'll kick the shit out of you while you lay there helpless, right?
> Justice, Jerry-style!
Stupidity, Clueless-style!
>
> http://www.astroglide.com/ For the next time you watch the video. I'd
> hate for you to friction burn your dick.
>
> -------
> Canada, keeping the brown people to a minimum for 80 years!
>
> ----
VegasJerry
Feb 10, 2012, 5:57:41 PM2/10/12
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On Feb 9 2012 9:29 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> On Feb 9, 11:22 am, "VegasJerry" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Feb 8 2012 11:09 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 8, 8:54 pm, "Mossingen" <jhanki...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > >
>news:2f4fed2e-cfc9-4d61...@i2g2000vbv.googlegroups.com....
> On Feb 9, 11:22 am, "VegasJerry" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Feb 8 2012 11:09 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 8, 8:54 pm, "Mossingen" <jhanki...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > >
part of that don't you understand?
> Show me you ignorant motherfucker,
you'd get embarrassed at having your ass handed you so many times. Now go
back and answer those questions you dodged. You know, the ones that keep
proving you stupid.
Jerry 'n Vegas
I want to see where in the
> "Use of Force Technique" that is says to pretend you are Bruce Lee.
> You idiot. Show me too, where in your super secret technique that
> it trains you assholes to run up like a fucking coward when 4 other
> guys already have him down, and kick the victim repeatedly in the
> face. You can't fucking do it.
VegasJerry
Feb 10, 2012, 5:58:31 PM2/10/12
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J..
>
> From the Secret Cop Handbook: "Beating the Shit out of Helpless Citizens"
> is an exhaustive 8 day course in administering corrective force with skill
> and efficiency. A good cop doesn't leave justice to the courts, he
> administers it right there on the scene!
>
> -------
> Canada, keeping the brown people to a minimum for 80 years!
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
VegasJerry
Feb 10, 2012, 6:06:59 PM2/10/12
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On Feb 9 2012 10:42 PM, Mossingen wrote:
> "Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:30acc47a-c76a-4f2f...@t30g2000vbx.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> >The problem James, is there seems to be no attempt to determine what
> >is actually occurring until after they have beaten or killed someone.
>
>
> Sounds like you have no clue what big-city police work is like.
Not only that; he'll try telling you he was a cop; but "Golly; I can't
> "Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:30acc47a-c76a-4f2f...@t30g2000vbx.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> >The problem James, is there seems to be no attempt to determine what
> >is actually occurring until after they have beaten or killed someone.
>
>
> Sounds like you have no clue what big-city police work is like.
tell you my name or where I was a cop."
Watch.
Cops who
> equivocate and hesitate get killed out there. It is almost always best to
> physically secure any possible threat and then sort it out later.
>
> In Mayberry, Barney can poke around and ask Otis if he's feeling all right.
> In Dallas, Otis will stick a shiv in your liver.
VegasJerry
Feb 10, 2012, 6:04:08 PM2/10/12
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> I arrested more drunks and drunk drivers than I can
> remember.
It's why you and your idiot cohorts hide behind your anonymity. Lying
cowardous and inability to admit you're wrong.
Most of the time with no backup, never with 5 other cops
> kicking and beating the shit of the guy. They never even tried to get
> him out without fucking him over. You want to firmly take control and
> sort it out in the hospital or the morgue, like they did when they
> tazed the other guy having the seizure? Tazed him FIVE times.
> Neither you nor Jerry has explained what the fuck the cop was doing
> when he kung fu'd the window. That was a classic move. Kinda like
> Billy Ray Valentines 'quart of blood" technique. I'm still waiting
> for you to somehow explain what the asshole was accomplishing when he
> ran up and kicked the guy in the face over and over, when he was
> already down, with 4 other guys on top of him.
VegasJerry
Feb 10, 2012, 6:05:31 PM2/10/12
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Jerry 'n Vegas
Kill a defenseless man, get a slap on the wrist. And you
> call me stupid. You are a sorry sack of shit.
> >
> > > even when someone dies. These cocksuckers stick together, no matter
> > > what, as evidenced by jerry the loon,
> >
> > You got as much 'evidence' as you have brains. Zero.
> >
> > Jerry 'n Vegas
> >
> > > who can never bring himself to be
> > > critical of a cop like these douches, who beat the fuck out of a man
> > > in a diabetic coma, or the fucking murderer who tazed a dazed man who
> > > had had a traffic accident 5 times, resulting in that mans death.
> >
> > _______________________________________________________________________
VegasJerry
Feb 10, 2012, 6:09:28 PM2/10/12
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On Feb 9 2012 10:12 AM, bratt wrote:
> On Feb 9 2012 11:46 AM, VegasJerry wrote:
>
> > Yea, actually he has. He didn't stop. He didn't open the car door. He
> > refused to get out. And why do you suppose they're having trouble cuffing
> > him? He was resisting.
>
> Just a thought, but maybe because they told him NOT TO MOVE he didn't get
> out of the car?
Stop whining. You were wrong. Get over it.
> On Feb 9 2012 11:46 AM, VegasJerry wrote:
>
> > Yea, actually he has. He didn't stop. He didn't open the car door. He
> > refused to get out. And why do you suppose they're having trouble cuffing
> > him? He was resisting.
>
> Just a thought, but maybe because they told him NOT TO MOVE he didn't get
> out of the car?
_____________________________________________________________________
VegasJerry
Feb 10, 2012, 6:14:31 PM2/10/12
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have no clue as to the subject under discussion.
>
> >
> > > His wife received $99,000 from Henderson, which is just under the
> > > minimum amount that requires council approval.
> > >
> > > Nevada Highway Patrol troopers also participated in the traffic stop
> > > but do not appear to kick or knee Greene on the video. The state has
> > > agreed to pay $35,000 to Greene for a total of $292,500 between the
> > > two agencies.
> >
> > See? They know (and the lawyer knows) what would happen in front of a
> > jury. Remember the OJ jury?
>
> Yes, the state was desperate to keep this away from a jury because the
> cops were brutal sadistic pigs. Good point.
stupidity. Prove you last statement.
Heh
> > Notice the police picked ONE of the police to 'discipline' yet none of the
> > others? Why not? As I stated, it's the results of year of experience,
> > resulting in "Use of Force Technique Training," that protect the police
> > while protecting the public. You and the public simply have no understand
> > of what it takes to make these sorts of stops and arrests. You just expect
> > the police to wander up to a window of a car and tap on the window and ask
> > if they're having a bad day. Too many cops have been shot doing that.
> >
> > Jerry 'n Vegas
> >
> > ------
>
> Bullshit.
desperation).
> Show some evidence that cops are trained to act like that. You
> can't, because it doesn't
"Use of Force Technique Training."
Your are really a stupid, stupid, person...........
>
> -------
> Canada, keeping the brown people to a minimum for 80 years!
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
bratt
Feb 10, 2012, 6:15:50 PM2/10/12
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watched a different video - sorry about that.
Mossingen
Feb 11, 2012, 1:46:58 AM2/11/12
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"Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Exactly what comment am I going to come up with that would force someone to
view a video clip of a cop-citizen encounter with some context, maturity,
and an understanding of what it's like to do police work? You want to view
cops as sadistic sociopaths like Jason, have at it. But, the clips and
stories that you guys post here regularly do not support such a view.
Alim Nassor
Feb 11, 2012, 7:10:29 AM2/11/12
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idiot is training cops to run and and kung-fu kick the drivers window
of a car? BWHAHAHAHAHA. Thats one of the most idiotic things you
have ever said, and buddy, you've said some idiotic shit before.
Show us Jerry, I'm sure you can find it somewhere on the internet.
>
> > Show me you ignorant motherfucker,
>
> I just did, making you the 'ignorant motherfucker' once again. I'd think
> you'd get embarrassed at having your ass handed you so many times. Now go
> back and answer those questions you dodged. You know, the ones that keep
> proving you stupid.
LOL You've never handed anyone anything, unless it's your colostomy
> > Show me you ignorant motherfucker,
>
> I just did, making you the 'ignorant motherfucker' once again. I'd think
> you'd get embarrassed at having your ass handed you so many times. Now go
> back and answer those questions you dodged. You know, the ones that keep
> proving you stupid.
bag that needs emptying. You think just because you say it, that that
proves something. LOL Idiot
>
> Jerry 'n Vegas
>
> I want to see where in the
>
> > "Use of Force Technique" that is says to pretend you are Bruce Lee.
> > You idiot. Show me too, where in your super secret technique that
> > it trains you assholes to run up like a fucking coward when 4 other
> > guys already have him down, and kick the victim repeatedly in the
> > face. You can't fucking do it.
Dodge noted. Show me where anyone trained you to repeatedly kick a
> Jerry 'n Vegas
>
> I want to see where in the
>
> > "Use of Force Technique" that is says to pretend you are Bruce Lee.
> > You idiot. Show me too, where in your super secret technique that
> > it trains you assholes to run up like a fucking coward when 4 other
> > guys already have him down, and kick the victim repeatedly in the
> > face. You can't fucking do it.
man in the face after 4 other guys have him on the ground. Idiot.
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
Alim Nassor
Feb 11, 2012, 7:16:22 AM2/11/12
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face while another "officer" knees him the ribs repeatedly, while 3
other cops are holding him down, all because he was unable to follow
their instructions doesn't even make you pause and think that maybe
they over did it?
I've been a cop James, you never have. So pardon me if I say, fuck
you.
BillB
Feb 11, 2012, 7:55:15 AM2/11/12
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On 2/7/2012 11:08 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> http://www.lvrj.com/news/video-shows-officers-beating-motorist-in-diabetic-shock-138901274.html
>
> Adam Greene is on his stomach as a pack of police officers pile on
> him, driving their knees into his back and wrenching his arms and
> legs. One officer knees him in the ribs; another kicks him in the
> face.
>
> http://www.lvrj.com/news/video-shows-officers-beating-motorist-in-diabetic-shock-138901274.html
>
> Adam Greene is on his stomach as a pack of police officers pile on
> him, driving their knees into his back and wrenching his arms and
> legs. One officer knees him in the ribs; another kicks him in the
> face.
>
> "Stop resisting," officers on the video yell, but Greene, his face
> pushed into the pavement, hasn't resisted. He doesn't even move --
> maybe can't move -- because he's gone into diabetic shock caused by
> low blood sugar.
>
> low blood sugar.
>
> The video, recorded more than a year ago by a police car dashboard
> camera, was released Tuesday by Greene's lawyers. The same night, the
> Henderson City Council approved a settlement of $158,500 for Greene.
> camera, was released Tuesday by Greene's lawyers. The same night, the
> Henderson City Council approved a settlement of $158,500 for Greene.
> His wife received $99,000 from Henderson, which is just under the
> minimum amount that requires council approval.
>
> Nevada Highway Patrol troopers also participated in the traffic stop
> but do not appear to kick or knee Greene on the video. The state has
> agreed to pay $35,000 to Greene for a total of $292,500 between the
> two agencies.
>
> minimum amount that requires council approval.
>
> Nevada Highway Patrol troopers also participated in the traffic stop
> but do not appear to kick or knee Greene on the video. The state has
> agreed to pay $35,000 to Greene for a total of $292,500 between the
> two agencies.
>
they'd rough me up a little for that kind of money. For 300k I'd gladly
take a way worse beating than that. And you're crying for this diabetic
fool??
Alim Nassor
Feb 11, 2012, 7:13:20 AM2/11/12
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your fucking ass. And Jerry? Dumbfuck? Almost everyone hon the
newsgroup knows my real name.
I realize you must have been such a pussy that you always had 5 other
guys around to help you abuse and assault suspects, but where I
worked, we never had that many guys, we rode solo, and your nearest
backup may be 5 miles away.
BillB
Feb 11, 2012, 8:23:34 AM2/11/12
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On 2/11/2012 4:13 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> I realize you must have been such a pussy that you always had 5 other
> guys around to help you abuse and assault suspects, but where I
> worked, we never had that many guys, we rode solo, and your nearest
> backup may be 5 miles away.
So you were a cop for two years out in the middle of fucking nowhere,
> I realize you must have been such a pussy that you always had 5 other
> guys around to help you abuse and assault suspects, but where I
> worked, we never had that many guys, we rode solo, and your nearest
> backup may be 5 miles away.
driving around in your car all night trying to stay awake and not hit
any cows? That's the "street experience" you've been bragging about?
What a joke. I knew I had you nailed. At least Mayberry had a gas station.
Alim Nassor
Feb 11, 2012, 8:40:29 AM2/11/12
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cities, most officers ride solo.
VegasJerry
Feb 11, 2012, 10:47:24 AM2/11/12
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On Feb 11 2012 4:10 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> On Feb 10, 4:57 pm, "VegasJerry" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Feb 9 2012 9:29 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 9, 11:22 am, "VegasJerry" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > On Feb 8 2012 11:09 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Feb 8, 8:54 pm, "Mossingen" <jhanki...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > > > "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > >news:2f4fed2e-cfc9-4d61...@i2g2000vbv.googlegroups.com.....
> On Feb 10, 4:57 pm, "VegasJerry" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Feb 9 2012 9:29 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 9, 11:22 am, "VegasJerry" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > On Feb 8 2012 11:09 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Feb 8, 8:54 pm, "Mossingen" <jhanki...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > > > "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> You're trying to tell me that some
> idiot is training cops to run and and kung-fu kick the drivers window
> of a car?
and you simply don't understand. Once again: "What part of that don't you
understand?"
> LOL You've never handed anyone anything, unless it's your colostomy
> bag that needs emptying.
Jerry 'n Vegas
You think just because you say it, that that
> proves something. LOL Idiot
> >
> > Jerry 'n Vegas
> >
> > I want to see where in the
> >
> > > "Use of Force Technique" that is says to pretend you are Bruce Lee.
> > > You idiot. Show me too, where in your super secret technique that
> > > it trains you assholes to run up like a fucking coward when 4 other
> > > guys already have him down, and kick the victim repeatedly in the
> > > face. You can't fucking do it.
>
> Dodge noted. Show me where anyone trained you to repeatedly kick a
> man in the face after 4 other guys have him on the ground. Idiot.
>
> >
> > _______________________________________________________________________
VegasJerry
Feb 11, 2012, 10:52:08 AM2/11/12
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On Feb 11 2012 4:16 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> On Feb 11, 12:46 am, "Mossingen" <jhanki...@cox.net> wrote:
> > "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:3d176f1e-6cce-4502...@dp8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> > On Feb 10, 12:42 am, "Mossingen" <jhanki...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > >news:30acc47a-c76a-4f2f...@t30g2000vbx.googlegroups.com....
> On Feb 11, 12:46 am, "Mossingen" <jhanki...@cox.net> wrote:
> > "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:3d176f1e-6cce-4502...@dp8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> > On Feb 10, 12:42 am, "Mossingen" <jhanki...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> >
> > > >The problem James, is there seems to be no attempt to determine what
> > > >is actually occurring until after they have beaten or killed someone.
> >
> > > Sounds like you have no clue what big-city police work is like. Cops who
> > > equivocate and hesitate get killed out there. It is almost always best to
> > > physically secure any possible threat and then sort it out later.
> >
> > > In Mayberry, Barney can poke around and ask Otis if he's feeling all
> > > right.
> > > In Dallas, Otis will stick a shiv in your liver.
> >
> > Now you sound like Bill. Is that the best comment you could come up
> > with? Pretty sad.
> >
> > _________________
> >
> > Exactly what comment am I going to come up with that would force someone to
> > view a video clip of a cop-citizen encounter with some context, maturity,
> > and an understanding of what it's like to do police work? You want to view
> > cops as sadistic sociopaths like Jason, have at it. But, the clips and
> > stories that you guys post here regularly do not support such a view.
>
> Really? Kicking that poor guy in diabetic shock, repeatedly, in the
> face while another "officer" knees him the ribs repeatedly, while 3
> other cops are holding him down, all because he was unable to follow
> their instructions doesn't even make you pause and think that maybe
> they over did it?
>
> I've been a cop James, you never have. So pardon me if I say, fuck
> you.
Parden my while I call you a liar.
> > > >The problem James, is there seems to be no attempt to determine what
> > > >is actually occurring until after they have beaten or killed someone.
> >
> > > Sounds like you have no clue what big-city police work is like. Cops who
> > > equivocate and hesitate get killed out there. It is almost always best to
> > > physically secure any possible threat and then sort it out later.
> >
> > > In Mayberry, Barney can poke around and ask Otis if he's feeling all
> > > right.
> > > In Dallas, Otis will stick a shiv in your liver.
> >
> > Now you sound like Bill. Is that the best comment you could come up
> > with? Pretty sad.
> >
> > _________________
> >
> > Exactly what comment am I going to come up with that would force someone to
> > view a video clip of a cop-citizen encounter with some context, maturity,
> > and an understanding of what it's like to do police work? You want to view
> > cops as sadistic sociopaths like Jason, have at it. But, the clips and
> > stories that you guys post here regularly do not support such a view.
>
> Really? Kicking that poor guy in diabetic shock, repeatedly, in the
> face while another "officer" knees him the ribs repeatedly, while 3
> other cops are holding him down, all because he was unable to follow
> their instructions doesn't even make you pause and think that maybe
> they over did it?
>
> I've been a cop James, you never have. So pardon me if I say, fuck
> you.
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VegasJerry
Feb 11, 2012, 10:49:23 AM2/11/12
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On Feb 11 2012 4:13 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> On Feb 10, 5:04 pm, "VegasJerry" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Feb 10 2012 12:07 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 10, 12:39 am, "Mossingen" <jhanki...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > >
>news:b41c881f-a494-4834...@eb6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com....
> On Feb 10, 5:04 pm, "VegasJerry" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Feb 10 2012 12:07 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 10, 12:39 am, "Mossingen" <jhanki...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > >
J..
And Jerry? Dumbfuck? Almost everyone hon the
> newsgroup knows my real name.
>
> I realize you must have been such a pussy that you always had 5 other
> guys around to help you abuse and assault suspects, but where I
> worked, we never had that many guys, we rode solo, and your nearest
> backup may be 5 miles away.
> >
> > Most of the time with no backup, never with 5 other cops
> >
> > > kicking and beating the shit of the guy. They never even tried to get
> > > him out without fucking him over. You want to firmly take control and
> > > sort it out in the hospital or the morgue, like they did when they
> > > tazed the other guy having the seizure? Tazed him FIVE times.
> > > Neither you nor Jerry has explained what the fuck the cop was doing
> > > when he kung fu'd the window. That was a classic move. Kinda like
> > > Billy Ray Valentines 'quart of blood" technique. I'm still waiting
> > > for you to somehow explain what the asshole was accomplishing when he
> > > ran up and kicked the guy in the face over and over, when he was
> > > already down, with 4 other guys on top of him.
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________________
VegasJerry
Feb 11, 2012, 10:51:00 AM2/11/12
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On Feb 11 2012 5:23 AM, BillB wrote:
> On 2/11/2012 4:13 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
>
> > I realize you must have been such a pussy that you always had 5 other
> > guys around to help you abuse and assault suspects, but where I
> > worked, we never had that many guys, we rode solo, and your nearest
> > backup may be 5 miles away.
>
> So you were a cop for two years out in the middle of fucking nowhere,
Let's just make that one of his claimes. His kind remain in hiding from
> On 2/11/2012 4:13 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
>
> > I realize you must have been such a pussy that you always had 5 other
> > guys around to help you abuse and assault suspects, but where I
> > worked, we never had that many guys, we rode solo, and your nearest
> > backup may be 5 miles away.
>
> So you were a cop for two years out in the middle of fucking nowhere,
truth......
J..
> driving around in your car all night trying to stay awake and not hit
> any cows? That's the "street experience" you've been bragging about?
> What a joke. I knew I had you nailed. At least Mayberry had a gas station.
Dave the Clueless
Feb 11, 2012, 10:13:37 PM2/11/12
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That's a lot of dodging, even for you. I especially liked the part where
you said it was common practice for jurisdictions to give 6 figure awards
to people who were lawfully detained. Keep up the monkey dance, Jerry. You
amuse me.
you said it was common practice for jurisdictions to give 6 figure awards
to people who were lawfully detained. Keep up the monkey dance, Jerry. You
amuse me.
VegasJerry
Feb 12, 2012, 12:22:10 PM2/12/12
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On Feb 11 2012 7:13 PM, Dave the Clueless wrote:
> That's a lot of dodging, even for you.
Inability to "prove you last statment," (which you cut) noted.
> That's a lot of dodging, even for you.
J ....
Dave the Clueless
Feb 13, 2012, 4:54:05 PM2/13/12
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On Feb 11 2012 8:55 AM, BillB wrote:
>
> Pffttt....300k for a couple of cracked ribs? Only in America. I wish
> they'd rough me up a little for that kind of money. For 300k I'd gladly
> take a way worse beating than that. And you're crying for this diabetic
> fool??
No, fool, we are decrying the senseless brutality visited upon him by
>
> Pffttt....300k for a couple of cracked ribs? Only in America. I wish
> they'd rough me up a little for that kind of money. For 300k I'd gladly
> take a way worse beating than that. And you're crying for this diabetic
> fool??
Jerry's boys. And you really need 300k badly enough that you would suffer
beating and humiliation for it? I'm actually sorry to know that.
bratt
Feb 13, 2012, 5:44:56 PM2/13/12
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On Nov 8 2011 2:11 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
Jerry (almonst worthless) 'n Vegas
da pickle
Feb 13, 2012, 8:50:09 PM2/13/12
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On 2/13/2012 4:44 PM, bratt wrote:
> On Feb 11 2012 7:23 AM, BillB wrote:
>
>> On 2/11/2012 4:13 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
>>
>>> I realize you must have been such a pussy that you always had 5 other
>>> guys around to help you abuse and assault suspects, but where I
>>> worked, we never had that many guys, we rode solo, and your nearest
>>> backup may be 5 miles away.
>>
>> So you were a cop for two years out in the middle of fucking nowhere,
>> driving around in your car all night trying to stay awake and not hit
>> any cows? That's the "street experience" you've been bragging about?
>> What a joke. I knew I had you nailed. At least Mayberry had a gas station.
>
> so you are bigoted against small town folk?
Not the black ones.
> On Feb 11 2012 7:23 AM, BillB wrote:
>
>> On 2/11/2012 4:13 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
>>
>>> I realize you must have been such a pussy that you always had 5 other
>>> guys around to help you abuse and assault suspects, but where I
>>> worked, we never had that many guys, we rode solo, and your nearest
>>> backup may be 5 miles away.
>>
>> So you were a cop for two years out in the middle of fucking nowhere,
>> driving around in your car all night trying to stay awake and not hit
>> any cows? That's the "street experience" you've been bragging about?
>> What a joke. I knew I had you nailed. At least Mayberry had a gas station.
>
> so you are bigoted against small town folk?
Clave
Feb 13, 2012, 10:39:22 PM2/13/12
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"da pickle" <jcpi...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cNednTlIaqd...@giganews.com...
Dance, puppet.
news:cNednTlIaqd...@giganews.com...
Pepe Papon
Feb 14, 2012, 2:19:11 AM2/14/12
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>On Feb 11 2012 8:55 AM, BillB wrote:
>
>>
>> Pffttt....300k for a couple of cracked ribs? Only in America. I wish
>> they'd rough me up a little for that kind of money. For 300k I'd gladly
>> take a way worse beating than that. And you're crying for this diabetic
>> fool??
resulted in cracked ribs. There should have been damages and
punitive damages. Guy must have had a bad lawyer.
BTSinAustin
Feb 14, 2012, 12:05:46 PM2/14/12
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On Feb 13 2012 4:54 PM, Dave the Clueless wrote:
> On Feb 11 2012 8:55 AM, BillB wrote:
>
> >
> > Pffttt....300k for a couple of cracked ribs? Only in America. I wish
> > they'd rough me up a little for that kind of money. For 300k I'd gladly
> > take a way worse beating than that. And you're crying for this diabetic
> > fool??
>
> No, fool, we are decrying the senseless brutality visited upon him by
> Jerry's boys. And you really need 300k badly enough that you would suffer
> beating and humiliation for it? I'm actually sorry to know that.
>
Very telling that the ambulance chaser puts a price on it.
> On Feb 11 2012 8:55 AM, BillB wrote:
>
> >
> > Pffttt....300k for a couple of cracked ribs? Only in America. I wish
> > they'd rough me up a little for that kind of money. For 300k I'd gladly
> > take a way worse beating than that. And you're crying for this diabetic
> > fool??
>
> No, fool, we are decrying the senseless brutality visited upon him by
> Jerry's boys. And you really need 300k badly enough that you would suffer
> beating and humiliation for it? I'm actually sorry to know that.
>
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BTSinAustin
Feb 14, 2012, 12:04:46 PM2/14/12
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On Feb 11 2012 8:40 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> On Feb 11, 7:23 am, BillB <bo...@shaw1.ca> wrote:
> > On 2/11/2012 4:13 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> > > I realize you must have been such a pussy that you always had 5 other
> > > guys around to help you abuse and assault suspects, but where I
> > > worked, we never had that many guys, we rode solo, and your nearest
> > > backup may be 5 miles away.
> >
> > So you were a cop for two years out in the middle of fucking nowhere,
> > driving around in your car all night trying to stay awake and not hit
> > any cows? That's the "street experience" you've been bragging about?
> > What a joke. I knew I had you nailed. At least Mayberry had a gas station..
> On Feb 11, 7:23 am, BillB <bo...@shaw1.ca> wrote:
> > On 2/11/2012 4:13 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
> >
> > > I realize you must have been such a pussy that you always had 5 other
> > > guys around to help you abuse and assault suspects, but where I
> > > worked, we never had that many guys, we rode solo, and your nearest
> > > backup may be 5 miles away.
> >
> > So you were a cop for two years out in the middle of fucking nowhere,
> > driving around in your car all night trying to stay awake and not hit
> > any cows? That's the "street experience" you've been bragging about?
>
> Nope, wrong again Bill. I guess you wouldn't know that even in small
> cities, most officers ride solo.
No Alim, it's that famous BillB spidey sense he brags about. It works
> Nope, wrong again Bill. I guess you wouldn't know that even in small
> cities, most officers ride solo.
best when he is dressed for the job though..
http://www.xaqmorphy.com/pix/itsa-billb.jpg
When suited up he can spot tebaggers behind every VHS tape on his shelf.
________________________________________________________________________
VegasJerry
Feb 14, 2012, 1:39:54 PM2/14/12
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On Feb 13 2012 1:54 PM, Dave the Clueless wrote:
> On Feb 11 2012 8:55 AM, BillB wrote:
>
> >
> > Pffttt....300k for a couple of cracked ribs? Only in America. I wish
> > they'd rough me up a little for that kind of money. For 300k I'd gladly
> > take a way worse beating than that. And you're crying for this diabetic
> > fool??
>
> No, fool, we are decrying the senseless brutality visited upon him by
> Jerry's boys.
LOL @ the police being my boys.....
> On Feb 11 2012 8:55 AM, BillB wrote:
>
> >
> > Pffttt....300k for a couple of cracked ribs? Only in America. I wish
> > they'd rough me up a little for that kind of money. For 300k I'd gladly
> > take a way worse beating than that. And you're crying for this diabetic
> > fool??
>
> No, fool, we are decrying the senseless brutality visited upon him by
> Jerry's boys.
Jerry
And you really need 300k badly enough that you would suffer
> beating and humiliation for it? I'm actually sorry to know that.
>
> -------
> Canada, keeping the brown people to a minimum for 80 years!
>
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