*sigh*

[brattt]

Even the ACLU is questioning this move. Eric Holder is out of control

The Justice Department (DOJ) sought a warrant in 2010 to inspect the
private emails of Fox News correspondent James Rosen, according to court
documents obtained by the Washington Post and unveiled on Monday. The
department calls Rosen �an aider and abettor and/or co-conspirator� to the
leaking of classified materials, in its application for a search warrant,
which was approved by a U.S. magistrate judge in May 2010.

The revelation that the DOJ would classify a journalist as an un-indicted
co-conspirator under the 1917 Espionage Act is �even a bigger deal� than
the department�s seizure of Associated Press phone records, said Ben
Wizner, director of the ACLU�s Speech, Privacy and Technology Project.


http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/05/20/justice-department-names-reporter-co-conspirator-in-leak-case/

[O-PGManager]

On May 20 2013 5:17 PM, brattt wrote:

> Even the ACLU is questioning this move.

What do you mean "even the ACLU"? The ACLU has relentlessly criticized
Obama's war on whisteblowers and journalists.

Opie G. Manager
Rec.Gambling.Poker
Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator Emeritus (2009-2011)

[Truthseeker]

On 5/21/13 12:33 PM, O-PGManager wrote:
> On May 20 2013 5:17 PM, brattt wrote:

>> Even the ACLU is questioning this move.

> What do you mean "even the ACLU"? The ACLU has relentlessly criticized
> Obama's war on whisteblowers and journalists.

The ACLU does a great deal of good. Sure, they go off into left field
sometimes, and it's a shame IMO that they won't defend the Second
Amendment, but overall we are a better country because of their activities.



--
Truthseeker

"On the Internet, no one knows you're a dog."

[brattt]

On May 21 2013 1:33 PM, O-PGManager wrote:

> On May 20 2013 5:17 PM, brattt wrote:
>
> > Even the ACLU is questioning this move.
>
> What do you mean "even the ACLU"? The ACLU has relentlessly criticized
> Obama's war on whisteblowers and journalists.

I didn't know that. I don't much about them. I thought they mainly
supported left issues.

Other than that, what did you think of the article?

[VegasJerry]

This has nothing to do with the ACLU (partly supported by me); but goes to the whiners and criers that first bitched about throwing a wide net over the press - now cries about targeting individuals in the press. You're weak mind is easily impressed.

Jerry 'n Vegas

[VegasJerry]

You admit you chastise the ACLU without knowing a thing about them other than your right-wing gods - Fox & Limbaugh et al - told you they were lefties? See why you're considered duped and simply a target for right wing propaganda?


Jerry 'n Vegas

[Truthseeker]

On 5/21/13 2:38 PM, brattt wrote:
> On May 21 2013 1:33 PM, O-PGManager wrote:
>
>> On May 20 2013 5:17 PM, brattt wrote:
>>
>>> Even the ACLU is questioning this move.
>>
>> What do you mean "even the ACLU"? The ACLU has relentlessly criticized
>> Obama's war on whisteblowers and journalists.
>
> I didn't know that. I don't much about them. I thought they mainly
> supported left issues.

You hear a lot of grandstanding by the Left claiming that they are the
only ones fighting for civil rights, but most Constitutional rights
issues are not truly left/right issues. The ACLU does pick-and-choose
which of the Bill of Rights they defend. But they clearly take on 1st,
4tha and 5th amendment issues even when it angers some of their Liberal
supporters. Such as their famous defense of the right of the Nazis to
have a parade in Skokie, Illinois.

> Other than that, what did you think of the article?

I think the ACLU is right in this case. It's a shame so many of the
"Champions of human rights" here won't face the fact that the Obama
Administration has been more aggressively infringing on them than the
previous Administration. It all comes down to power in the end.

[O-PGManager]

You can probably guess I agree with it. Obama's attacks attacks against
the free flow of information (indirectly by persecuting whistleblowers,
and now with these direct journalist attacks) is truly frightening.

[brattt]

Interesting that so far only Jerry us supporting this. At least the other
lefties are smart enough to keep their mouths shut.

[Clave]

"brattt" <af3...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
news:nk8t6ax...@news.ezprovider.com...

Wingnuts just can't wrap their heads around the idea that we don't march in
lock-step like they do.

Jim

[brattt]

So the reason you didn't reply was that you agree with the article?

We won't think any less of you if you disagree with Holder and Jerry.

[Clave]

"brattt" <af3...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message

news:hi9t6ax...@news.ezprovider.com...

I didn't reply because I didn't feel like replying. I feel no compulsion to
comment on every issue in every thread.

But don't let that stop you from coming up with your own make-believe
reasons. Some people need to create stories to fill their ignorance holes.

Jim

[brattt]

On May 21 2013 5:49 PM, Clave wrote:

> I didn't reply because I didn't feel like replying. I feel no compulsion to
> comment on every issue in every thread.
>
> But don't let that stop you from coming up with your own make-believe
> reasons. Some people need to create stories to fill their ignorance holes.
>
> Jim

LOL didn't reply to article, but have replied twice in the thread about
the article.

Really clavie, you do need to get a life.

[popinjay999]

On May 21, 3:49 pm, "Clave" <ChrisClav...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:

>
> I didn't reply because I didn't feel like replying.  I feel no compulsion to
> comment on every issue in every thread.
>

We understand. It would be a daunting task indeed, given that you
have replied to the following newsgroups recently:

alt.society.liberalism
alt.politics.usa
alt.survival
alt.politics.economics
alt.peeves
alt.politics.usa.constitution
alt.illuminati
soc.culture.usa
alt.fan.art-bell


Laughing my ASS off! Is Art Bell even still alive? Alt.Illuminati?
omg, my eyes are watering, you fucking k00k stain.

[Clave]

"popinjay999" <paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:7a0380d8-51bf-4959...@fq2g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...

> On May 21, 3:49 pm, "Clave" <ChrisClav...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I didn't reply because I didn't feel like replying. I feel no compulsion
>> to
>> comment on every issue in every thread.
>>
>
>
> We understand. It would be a daunting task indeed, given that you
> have replied to the following newsgroups recently:
>
> alt.society.liberalism
> alt.politics.usa
> alt.survival
> alt.politics.economics
> alt.peeves
> alt.politics.usa.constitution
> alt.illuminati
> soc.culture.usa
> alt.fan.art-bell

And you *still* can't wrap your head around how crossposts work.

What an idiot.

Jim

[popinjay999]

On May 21, 4:57 pm, "Clave" <ChrisClav...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
> "popinjay999" <paulpopin...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

>
>
> > On May 21, 3:49 pm, "Clave" <ChrisClav...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
>
> >> I didn't reply because I didn't feel like replying.  I feel no compulsion
> >> to
> >> comment on every issue in every thread.
>
> > We understand.  It would be a daunting task indeed, given that you
> > have replied to the following newsgroups recently:
>
> > alt.society.liberalism
> > alt.politics.usa
> > alt.survival
> > alt.politics.economics
> > alt.peeves
> > alt.politics.usa.constitution
> > alt.illuminati
> > soc.culture.usa
> > alt.fan.art-bell

>
> And you *still* can't wrap your head around how crossposts work.
>
> What an idiot.
>
> Jim

These are direct posts, you fucking liar. You have specific
conversations with specific posters who are unique to each group.
Face it, you're a usenet slut.

[risky biz]

You better not be talking about me.

[risky biz]

On May 21 2013 12:31 PM, Truthseeker wrote:

> On 5/21/13 12:33 PM, O-PGManager wrote:
> > On May 20 2013 5:17 PM, brattt wrote:
>
> >> Even the ACLU is questioning this move.
>
> > What do you mean "even the ACLU"? The ACLU has relentlessly criticized
> > Obama's war on whisteblowers and journalists.
>
> The ACLU does a great deal of good. Sure, they go off into left field
> sometimes, and it's a shame IMO that they won't defend the Second
> Amendment, but overall we are a better country because of their activities.

The NRA is there to do that. The ACLU is needed in areas that are less
popular.

[risky biz]

That's another reason why Jerry deserves to get killfiled.

[TruthSeeker]

On 21/5/13 4:25 PM, Clave wrote:

> Wingnuts just can't wrap their heads around the idea that we don't march in
> lock-step like they do.

Laugh of the night. Yeah, you guys keep telling yourselves that.


--
TruthSeeker

[TruthSeeker]

Yea, I noticed that too. When he did join the thread it was only to
make a lame, inane stereotypical swipe. Which was funny, considering
how much in lock-step he himself is.

[Clave]

"TruthSeeker" <Truth...@nof-nspam.us> wrote in message
news:R9SdnYl7AIVgiAHM...@giganews.com...

LOL -- like I said, some people need to create stories to fill their
ignorance holes.

Jim

[Pepe Papon]

On Mon, 20 May 2013 14:17:10 -0700, "brattt" <af3...@webnntp.invalid>
wrote:

After running two very strong presidential election campaigns, it's
hard to believe Obama could make such a huge political blunder,
succeeding in casting Fox News as the good guys. Even liberals are
going to have a hard time rooting for Obama against Fox News on this
issue.
--

Pepe Papon

[popinjay999]

And...... nothing but crickets. Obviously you had no response because
what I said is the truth. And it is the truth. Those aren't
crossposts, they're individual and specifically directed posts. And,
as I said, you are a fucking liar. So just sit there, quietly, bitch.

[VegasJerry]

On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 2:26:45 PM UTC-7, O-PGManager wrote:
> On May 21 2013 4:38 PM, brattt wrote:
>
> > On May 21 2013 1:33 PM, O-PGManager wrote:
> >
> > > On May 20 2013 5:17 PM, brattt wrote:
> > >
> > > > Even the ACLU is questioning this move.
> > >
> > > What do you mean "even the ACLU"? The ACLU has relentlessly criticized
> > > Obama's war on whisteblowers and journalists.
> >
> > I didn't know that. I don't much about them. I thought they mainly
> > supported left issues.
> >
> > Other than that, what did you think of the article?

.
.> You can probably guess I agree with it. Obama's attacks attacks against

> the free flow of information (indirectly by persecuting whistleblowers,
> and now with these direct journalist attacks) is truly frightening.

It's not about 'free flow of information,' but about breaches of security. It's your ignorance, and that you're allowed to vote, that's frightening.

[VegasJerry]

You've just proven yourself as ignorant as Opie.

[VegasJerry]

.
.> That's another reason why Jerry deserves to get killfiled.

Fear of facts you can't argue? You actually want others to kill file me because I keep embarrassing you. Heh, you're still a loser.

[FL Turbo]

On Tue, 21 May 2013 16:37:56 -0700 (PDT), popinjay999
<paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On May 21, 3:49�pm, "Clave" <ChrisClav...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I didn't reply because I didn't feel like replying. �I feel no compulsion to
>> comment on every issue in every thread.
>>
>
>
>We understand. It would be a daunting task indeed, given that you
>have replied to the following newsgroups recently:
>
>alt.society.liberalism
>alt.politics.usa
>alt.survival
>alt.politics.economics
>alt.peeves
>alt.politics.usa.constitution
>alt.illuminati
>soc.culture.usa
>alt.fan.art-bell
>

WTF?
He doesn't post on Dr.Laura any more?

>
>Laughing my ASS off! Is Art Bell even still alive? Alt.Illuminati?
>omg, my eyes are watering, you fucking k00k stain.

I'm happy to report that Art Bell is alive and well, living in Manila
with his young wife and young child.
He does come back every once in a while to do a guest spot on George
Noory's Coast to Coast show.

I always liked Art.
He had this wonderful ability to listen to somebody spouting the
dumbest shit you ever heard, and just go right along with it without
calling bullshit on the guy.

[popinjay999]

On May 22, 8:24 pm, FL Turbo <noem...@notime.com> wrote:

>
> I always liked Art.
> He had this wonderful ability to listen to somebody spouting the
> dumbest shit you ever heard, and just go right along with it without
> calling bullshit on the guy.

Kinda like when I'm listening to Clave.

[Dave the Clueless]

> ..> That's another reason why Jerry deserves to get killfiled.

>
> Fear of facts you can't argue? You actually want others to kill file me
because I keep embarrassing
> you. Heh, you're still a loser.

No. It's that while your stupidity once used to be amusing, now it is
simply boring and predictable. You make Chris Matthews look like a
Libertarian.


-------
JerryFOREX the retard thinks "Cornel Ronald West (born June 2, 1953) is an
American philosopher, academic, activist, author and prominent member of
the Democratic Socialists of America" is a right-winger! LOL! HAHAHAHAH!
What a moron!!!

[VegasJerry]

.
.> No.

Yes. I've simply embarrassed you to the point of you not wanting anybody to see it.

> It's that while your stupidity once used to be amusing, now it is
> simply boring and predictable. You make Chris Matthews look like a
> Libertarian.

See how well you made my point? Then you top it off with your unexplainably stupid tag line. Here, I'll embarrass you about that, too:

Dave the Clueless makes up a position for me by renaming me; then makes up a position about what he thinks I'm thinking about someone I don't know; then he argues the name he made up and argues against what he thinks I think. Then this moron calls me a moron. Clueless can't really embarrass himself any better than this. This wins; even over the fact this revelation also embarrasses him. What a three-time loser.

Now be quick and tell everybody to kill-file me so they don't see you made a fool of again.

Jerry 'n vegas