How common is cheating online?
Mike
cheating. But they were idiots. Instead of using IM, they were using the Chat.
They disabled everyone's elses chat at the table (so they could not see the
others talking). They assumed that meant that we could not see them talking
(IDIOTS). On Pacific you have to turn chat on, so there were only 3 of us who
saw them cheating. It actually helped us. I had JJ on the button and raised.
1 cheater had Q9 in the small blind. Flop rag rag Q. The other dude was
telling him to check raise me..... FUNNY.
Anyway it got me thinking. How many times do you think there are people out
there who are smart enough to use IM, and get away with cheating?? Thoughts?
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Luckily most of them suck at it, if they were good they'd be playing
higher limits.
da pickle
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> Last night I ran into a weird situation. 2 guys playing on Pacific Poker
> were
> cheating. But they were idiots. Instead of using IM, they were using the
> Chat.
> They disabled everyone's elses chat at the table (so they could not see
> the
> others talking). They assumed that meant that we could not see them
> talking
> (IDIOTS). On Pacific you have to turn chat on, so there were only 3 of us
> who
> saw them cheating. It actually helped us. I had JJ on the button and
> raised.
> 1 cheater had Q9 in the small blind. Flop rag rag Q. The other dude was
> telling him to check raise me..... FUNNY.
>
> Anyway it got me thinking. How many times do you think there are people
> out
> there who are smart enough to use IM, and get away with cheating??
> Thoughts?
Interesting question. Can't remember if it has ever been discussed. I look
forward to learning more about this. Thanks for sharing.
dsodano
buddy using a phone, at ring games and sng's it is more common so I
noticed, I don't think they are gaining much of an edge. I find it easy to
tell since they are always in the same pots. If you think you have two
characters pinned move on. What scares me a little is if more than two are
colluding at the same table.
O-PGManager
In particular, look out for the 5man sitngoes at pacific.
O-PG
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KookieMonstr
You cannot cheat online without being caught. There is too much profit at stake
for these sites not to have high tech anti-collusion software and support. It
is in their best interest to have secure gaming. If you want to know how they
identify and deal with collusion, read the articles in CardPlayer or this
newsgroup.
KookieMonstr.
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William Coleman
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>
> You cannot cheat online without being caught.
LMFAO! You don't have a clue.
> There is too much profit at stake
> for these sites not to have high tech anti-collusion software and support.
You really believe that???
> It is in their best interest to have secure gaming.
And why is that?
> If you want to know how they
> identify and deal with collusion, read the articles in CardPlayer or this
> newsgroup.
You must be a shill or employee of an online cardroom. You think Card
Player magazine is a good source of information about online collusion?
They rarely even mention it.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
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On Oct 19 2005 1:26 PM, William Coleman wrote:
> "KookieMonstr" wrote in message
Poker is a race, not a sprint and you need to pace yourself..
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were
| cheating. But they were idiots. Instead of using IM, they were using the
Chat.
| They disabled everyone's elses chat at the table (so they could not see
the
| others talking). They assumed that meant that we could not see them
talking
| (IDIOTS). On Pacific you have to turn chat on, so there were only 3 of us
who
| saw them cheating. It actually helped us. I had JJ on the button and
raised.
| 1 cheater had Q9 in the small blind. Flop rag rag Q. The other dude was
| telling him to check raise me..... FUNNY.
|
| Anyway it got me thinking. How many times do you think there are people
out
| there who are smart enough to use IM, and get away with cheating??
Thoughts?
I see it all the time. If I had to guess, 2 percent would be a very safe
bet. Judging from the poker and other games I've played online, a lot of
people are prone to cheat.
I like to play short tables with 2 or 3 others. The opportunity for people
to sit down and collude is always there. Single table sit and goes are as
bad. Any cash game is open for cheating. Multi-table (more than 2)
tournaments are the safest way to play.
I've seen those stupid enough to talk at the table, including the smart ones
that use code (Two guys sit in at the same time and occasionally type a few
characters back and forth, brilliant). Even using IM isn't a real smart way
to communicate, it can easily be detected by the site's software. Using a
separate computer is a common way for "the pros" to communicate. They use
two or more computers anyway since the best person to collude with online is
yourself. Another easy method to communicate is a speaker-phone.
Anyone who tells you it isn't happening all the time is ignorant or a shill.
I have turned in a few, with enough evidence to prove they were cheating,
and the poker sites send a thank you email and seldom any other info. I had
one site send me a thanks and said they deleted all of the colluders
accounts except their original. That helps a lot? There isn't much they can
do really except get rid of the ones who are bad enough to get caught and
they will be back in 20 minutes with a new account.
It's up to the honest players to be smart enough to detect it and turn the
assholes in. And, hope the poker site is smart enough to do something.
Carp
XaQ Morphy
is
> Pokerstars
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Wow, that felt great, thanks for that!
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ChrisBrown
> You cannot cheat online without being caught.
Please, whatever high tech drugs you're making in that lab at ucsb mail me
some of that shit.
> There is too much profit at stake
> for these sites not to have high tech anti-collusion software and support.
There is too much cost involved for these sites to have high tech anti
collusion software and support. But it's free to tell the public that you
do!
There's cheating online. My guess is that anyone who has played more than
20 hours of internet poker at...well just about any level has been cheated
in some form. At the lower levels, they're obviously not going to be that
good or even competent at it, but idiots will still try. At the higher
levels....well if you sit back and think about it there is absolutely no
reason for a poker player to NOT cheat. Morals stop some (most?), but if
the goal of the game is to try to invest money when you have the greatest
edge possible...the logical step is to cheat.
FtWorthKid
to believe but as you found last night, the average dumbass playing online is
too fucking stupid to be able to do it in a correct and profitable manner.
This is not because cheating at online poker doesn't have the potential to be
hugely profitable but rather because it is far too complex an endeavor for the
typical online player (who is considerablly dumber than the average poker player
overall) to be able to do it successfully.
Unless you are playing at the 20/40 level or so you probably aren't involved in
a game that has either skilled enough players or a sufficient amount of $$$ at
stake to make it a concern for you.
On Oct 19 2005 7:44 AM, Mike wrote:
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playing honest.