Doyle on GCA
RazzO
For you newbies out there who wonder why Doyle never responds to Russ... he has.
Here is one post below. Clixk here to look through many other posts that Doyle
responded to Russ. The below post is titled Subject: doyles return
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Jun 8 2001, 6:39 pm /#
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Date: 09 Jun 2001 02:39:20 GMT Local: Fri, Jun 8 2001 6:39 pm
Subject: doyles return
Subj: Doyles return
Date: 6/8/01 4:27:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: TEX DOLLY
It looks slow so I thought I would post this now. Everybody that blasts me
about my "farewell" better be careful [just kidding, blast away]. It has been
difficult, almost impossible, to distance myself from this cheating stuff.
Between my son, 84 e-mails, and a couple of dozen phone calls, and all the
conversation I feel obligated to respond. It is true I know a lot about
cheating...I make it my business to learn. How do I find out?...Through people
that do cheat...Why do they tell me?..because they want a favor, want to sell
me the info, or want to borrow money. Will I tell anyone who it is or what they
tell me?..No. If I do that, I'll never find out another thing. I'm not the
"catch cheaters" police! I'll try my best to protect myself and my game only.
If that makes me a bad guy, so be it.
I do like the idea of being the "head bull" of my territory, but the truth is,
I've been terrorized by a 106 lb. girl named Jennifer and a 125 lb. Chinaman
named Chow. And me weighing closer to 400 lbs than 300 lbs. So the "Bull" isn't
doing a very good job. And yes, I'm loser in the big game at the Bellagio, but
I haven't given up
I also loved the idea of being the "godfather" of the "Poker Mafia". The only
trouble is I haven't caught anyone cheating in the big game.I would enjoy
saying, "Johnny World, go down to the 4-8 hundred game... Eli, you have to
play 2-4 for a week..David Grey, you have been a bad boy, you play 50-100 for a
month". You wouldn't appreciate me writing here what they would tell me to do.
Before I start on the GCA, let me say that I don't dislike them because they
are cheaters, I don't dislike them because they do drugs [no, I've never seen
them do them] I don't dislike them for trying to start a "cheating protection"
business. I do dislike them for trying to extort me and Eric, telling lies when
they couldn't think of anything else, but most of all because they are
confessed snitches, stool pigeons, informers or whatever word you want to use.
To me, that is the bottom rung on the ladder. They DO have knowledge about the
"old days" and some of the things they say, I've heard for years about
different scams.They just don't know as much as they think. They haven't come
up with anything I didn't already know about cheating and haven't mentioned
some things that I do know. And it is painfully apparent they know nothing
about today's poker. I think poker is the cleanest it has been in many years.
The very people they have attacked were instrumental in cleaning it up.
Now, down to the specifics. Let me say, EVERYBODY I respect in the poker world
has advised me to leave this alone and ignore it. According to them, the
publicity and attention is what they want so I'm playing right into their
hands. But they aren't the ones that have been accused. My friend of 30 years,
Cowboy Wolford, got into a fight in Oceanside because some players printed out
some of RGP and took it to the card room. Mike Caros wonderful wife Phylis
said, when I asked her what she thought about all this cheating business, "I
don't know what to think". geez.... If she don't know what to think, how about
everyone else.
Now to what the GCA has accused me of. It shows how little they know outside
of their own experiences. In their 1st accusation, Bill N tells the story about
me and Puggy. When I pointed out every player has to act on their hand before
the dealer burns and deals, they said that was why the rule was later changed.
BULL...this is a small point I know but it shows their mentality. I have NEVER
played in a no limit lowball game that a dealer could burn and then asked the
players to act. Ask Billy Baxter, Aubrey Day, Puggy Pearson. They will confirm
what I said. Next, they said I had used marked cards at the Dunes [I shudder to
think what Tony Spilotro would have done to me] The Horseshoe, Ca. card clubs,
Mirage, and the Bellagio. I have NEVER used marked cards in my life and I mean
NEVER. Then they say I am cheating at the Bellagio..using marked cards,
electronic devices, etc. Not only have I not done that, I have never heard a
player at the Bellagio say they even THOUGHT they might have been cheated. Nor
do I have any knowledge of any person or persons cheating at the Bellagio.
Here is what I propose...GCA has said they will pay for anyone willing to take
a polygraph. They say Mike Caro is the one and only one to arrange it. Thats
fine. As mad as I am at him and Nolan for letting this thing get off the
ground, I'll admit I think he is honest[but the dumbest genius I've ever
known]. However, lets not take chances...lets take 2 more respected people in
the gambling community..Linda Johnson, Barry Shulman, Mike Sexton come to mind,
let them each,independent of the others, find the top polygraph people in the
USA, bring them in without telling anyone else when or where. Mike can be the
captain and coordinate everything. I really like Teds CANING concept, but we
don't want to kill a top player like Russ. Let the GCA put up 20,000 dollars
[the cost of flying these people in and paying their fee will be expensive],
I'll put up 100'000. Do that and maybe this will put an end to all this.. This
isn't limited to the GCA. All those who said the rumors could well be true, put
your money up and get 5-1. Post with Mike GCA, my money will be right behind
yours.
I feel like I've written another book but let me say one more thing. I'm not
going to continue this witch hunt about anything else. So, if anyone says,
"that might not have been true, but what about that..or this". Forget it. I
just want to be left alone and play poker. I know there can't be many more
years that I can play at the top. I've never claimed to be a saint, certainly
I'm nobodys hero, and don't consider myself to be an icon or pillar of the
gambling world. I want my legacy to be that I played at the highest level for
longer than anyone else.
Doyle Brunson
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OhioState95
this.
On Jan 3 2006 1:21 AM, RazzO wrote:
>
> For you newbies out there who wonder why Doyle never responds to Russ... he
> has.
> Here is one post below. Clixk here to look through many other posts that Doyle
> responded to Russ. The below post is titled Subject: doyles return
>
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.gambling.poker/search?q=texdolly%40aol.com
> +do
> yle+russ&start=0&
>
>
> Jun 8 2001, 6:39 pm /#
> Newsgroups: rec.gambling.poker
> From:
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> /bdc233f6...@aol.com (TEX DOLLY)
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and the others didn't cheat in the BIG GAME was they had too much
integrity.
Seems these people should be Saints, excuse me. For many of our
Presidents, CEO's and hundrds of celebritities have been caught lying,
stealing etc. And they could go to jail if caught. In poker, nothing
happens. Now Dolye and friends all the the SEC to deal with, after an
unknown amount of suckers lost a hundred million or so in the WPT stock
fiasco?
I wonder why people would listen to me, would they have listened to
anyone else?
Russ Georgiev
OhioState95
On Jan 3 2006 1:16 PM, RazzO wrote:
> Oh I'm sorry. I didn't welcome you to RGP.
huh? If that was intended as some sort of "you're too new on this newsgroup to
comment on my dull posts" sort of thing, I've been around for about 18 months
and would be considered by many to be a regular here.
With that said, I'm not looking to make an enemy despite my smart ass reply to
your smart ass reply. Just pointing out that the Russ subject has been beat to
death over and over and over and over and over and over and is only interesting
to the obsessed.
Happy new year.
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> and famous, or, send you to the rail whimpering and broke. If a diamond
> had come you'd be the world champion
> - but it didn't and so you aren't!" - Byron "Cowboy" Wolford
>
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RazzO
dull.
Did you read the first line of my post?
"For you newbies out there who wonder why Doyle never responds to Russ"
Happy New Year, OhioState.
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RazzO
Under.
And how many movie producers are knocking your door down? RGP'er for the
most part, Russ? My life story is a bigger one then yours, bro. Yours has
laready been told. Ever hear of ESPN's "Tilt"?
My story is so multifaceted it would make your life look like Heidi (not
thee Heidi, just some chick named Heidi). My book is half done. Getting to
the poker portion that started in 1984 soon. Tuesday to be exact.
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Hey Russ,
You want people to listen to you? Go play Barry G. and we will listen
to you. Until then you are a full of shit has been making noise and
seeking attention.
Don't think anyone will agree with you or believe you because you play
Barry, but it is certain you are full of shit and have no credibility
until you do.
He is not even requiring that you swim a river of shit to play him the
way you said you would just to get the chance to play him.
RazzO
On Jan 3 2006 8:08 PM, yowmama1111 wrote:
> He is not even requiring that you swim a river of shit to play him the
> way you said you would just to get the chance to play him.
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yowma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hey Russ,
>
> You want people to listen to you? Go play Barry G. and we will listen
> to you.
Yes, have Barry name the place and time? NO CHANCE
Is he scared to play when he has to go out of his way? I asked him how
much we needed to play for, but he can't respond:). I negotiate, will
not take dictation.
Russ Georgiev
RazzO
going out of his way? You puffed out your chest and opened your pie hole
and he accepted and told you where to be. Gave you 12, yes TWELVE places
to play him in 2006.
Russ said, 'how about Australia?". Barry said, "OK, Australia. Name your
game, limits, and amount of games. No bond required!" And Russ RAN TO THE
HILLS (didn't post for two days planning what to say). The Russ come back
and says; "errr...ahhh....agh... send my lawyer $500,000, then we'll
negotiate!"
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
Barry has offered to play Russ in 12 cities and various times this year.
And Russ calls him chicken.
I told you all that it would take but a week before RUSS would post that
Barry was a coward.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
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RazzO wrote:
> Ahh... excuse me for being stupid, Russ, but, why do accuse Barry of not
> going out of his way? You puffed out your chest and opened your pie hole
> and he accepted and told you where to be. Gave you 12, yes TWELVE places
> to play him in 2006.
>
> Russ said, 'how about Australia?". Barry said, "OK, Australia. Name your
> game, limits, and amount of games. No bond required!" And Russ RAN TO THE
> HILLS (didn't post for two days planning what to say). The Russ come back
> and says; "errr...ahhh....agh... send my lawyer $500,000, then we'll
> negotiate!"
More BS. Barry has stated he wouldn't go out of his way to play me. I
asked him how much we need to play for, he didn't answer. Because Barry
wants to play in Australia in September, doesn't mean I do. This is
where negotitaion comes. I have people who want to kill me Razzo, and
you know it. But, I have a student who will be willing to play Barry at
one of the tourneys coming up. Let's see who says UNCLE? Barry has
aready stated he won't go out of his way to play me. How much money
would be needed? Seven figures is NO PROBLEM, but Barry can't afford to
play because he knows he can't win. It's not the money, it's the
losing.
DREAM CLOWN will soon be challenging Barry, if Barry has the balls. And
Barry won't need to go anywhere but show up at one of the tourneys:),
he's stating he's playing.
Russ Georgiev
RazzO
>> More BS. Barry has stated he wouldn't go out of his way to play me. I
> asked him how much we need to play for, he didn't answer. Because Barry
> wants to play in Australia in September, doesn't mean I do. This is
Barry gave you a 30 day notice to play him on January in Australia, not
September, Russ. You told Barry you would play him in Australia and he
accepted. The you danced around and quit him.
> where negotitaion comes. I have people who want to kill me Razzo, and
> you know it. But, I have a student who will be willing to play Barry at
I told you already, if someone wants you dead, I don't know it to be true.
If I had to bet on it based on how I would feel if you continued to
slander me, I would bet you are right. But, Russ, I feel that deep down
you don't feel that people want to kill you. I feel this way because you
are not completely stupid. Understand what I mean?
> one of the tourneys coming up. Let's see who says UNCLE? Barry has
> aready stated he won't go out of his way to play me. How much money
> would be needed? Seven figures is NO PROBLEM, but Barry can't afford to
> play because he knows he can't win. It's not the money, it's the
> losing.
Russ, you will not play Barry under any condition that is feasible. The
Aussie challenge is a prime example. Give it up. Barry has stated he is
busy and doesn't have time for you. You said you'd 'take a swim' and at
the same time he gave you ample opportunity to play him and you quit him.
Please, Russ. Stop.
> DREAM CLOWN will soon be challenging Barry, if Barry has the balls. And
> Barry won't need to go anywhere but show up at one of the tourneys:),
> he's stating he's playing.
Why would Barry be afraid to play this DreamClown character? Did you teach
him to dance around challenges and anti-negotiate and misrepresent himself?
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> But, I have a student who will be willing to play Barry at
> one of the tourneys coming up.
>
> DREAM CLOWN will soon be challenging Barry, if Barry has the balls. And
> Barry won't need to go anywhere but show up at one of the tourneys:),
> he's stating he's playing.
>
> Russ Georgiev
Those who can do. Those who can't teach. lol
Now you want to send someone else to fight your battles. You are such a
wimp. If your friend wins you will try to take credit. If he loses you
will then say you could have won. Coward. You said you would swim a
river of shit to play Barry. You are such a joke.
OhioState95
On Jan 3 2006 5:02 PM, RazzO wrote:
> Of course you are not a newbie. Yes, I read your posts and they are not
> dull.
>
> Did you read the first line of my post?
>
> "For you newbies out there who wonder why Doyle never responds to Russ"
>
>
> Happy New Year, OhioState.
Again, no offense... I have an uncontrollable need to be a smartass from time to
time and that's all my second post was. I stand by the first though!
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RazzO wrote:
> Ahh... excuse me for being stupid, Russ, but, why do accuse Barry of not
> going out of his way?
Because he stated this. Look it up and you'll find it. He said I won't
go out of my way to play you.
If you want 100-1 on this bet, BET what you like.
Russ Georgiev
RussGe...@aol.com
RazzO wrote:
> Ahh... excuse me for being stupid, Russ, but, why do accuse Barry of not
> going out of his way? You puffed out your chest and opened your pie hole
> and he accepted and told you where to be. Gave you 12, yes TWELVE places
> to play him in 2006.
>
> Russ said, 'how about Australia?".
Barry said, "OK, Australia. Name your
> game, limits, and amount of games. No bond required!"
I said OK, at 250 days of the year. Barry wasn't available the two
weeks the tournament was being played there. Funny, I wasn't available
the two weeks the tournament wasn't being played there.
Russ Georgiev
RazzO
Isn't it you that won't go out of your way? You said you would 'swim the
river" to play him.
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factor is he doesn't want to go out of his way. He's not gunning for me
and isn't trying to prove anything so why should he?
He is not gunning for you Russ, he has no personal investment in
playing you. You are the one who put up the challenge and implied he is
afraid of playing you "I will swim a river of shit to play him but he
won't". Then when he said he would and let you know some places he
would be you talk shit rather than gathering your money and showing up.
YOur a bullshit artist.