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FellKnight

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:12:27 AM11/23/09
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One year ago I lent Rick $22 on Stars. He claimed I would be paid back
within four days. I ended up betting him on football twice, and he ended
up owing $84 after two lost bets. Despite numerous emails, he offered up
nothing but excuses for why he couldn't pay and false promises that he
would. He welched.

I have written off any hope of ever getting paid months ago, but still I
gave Rick the courtesy of not calling him out for the welch he is on RGP.
But now that it's been a year, and I even emailed Rick 2 days ago to give
him a last chance, and he didnt even bother to reply. Fuck it. I don't
even care anymore, I don't need to deal with welches. Have a good life
DaWelch.

Fell
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Will_gamble

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:36:35 AM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 7:12 AM, FellKnight wrote:

> One year ago I lent Rick $22 on Stars. He claimed I would be paid back
> within four days. I ended up betting him on football twice, and he ended
> up owing $84 after two lost bets. Despite numerous emails, he offered up
> nothing but excuses for why he couldn't pay and false promises that he
> would. He welched.
>
> I have written off any hope of ever getting paid months ago, but still I
> gave Rick the courtesy of not calling him out for the welch he is on RGP.
> But now that it's been a year, and I even emailed Rick 2 days ago to give
> him a last chance, and he didnt even bother to reply. Fuck it. I don't
> even care anymore, I don't need to deal with welches. Have a good life
> DaWelch.
>
> Fell
> --
>
>

> www.fellknight2.blogspot.com

What? This can't be! Rick doesn't have the means to pay off a gambling
debt? Let's see... Lending money to and then betting a guy that has no
job and solicits donations to get his wife out of jail on a news group
seems like a +EV move to me.

So after you do something this stupid, you call him out to in an attempt
to further humiliate him. Don't you think he has enough problems?

"Don't underestimate Fell. He's a smart kid."

Paul Popinjay, RGP, Nov 15, 2008

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James L. Hankins

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:46:00 AM11/23/09
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"Will_gamble" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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> So after you do something this stupid, you call him out to in an attempt
> to further humiliate him. Don't you think he has enough problems?


I wanted to hear all about his adventures and the 1-2 game in Kabul, but
instead he comes back with this.


Paul Popinjay

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:17:52 AM11/23/09
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"FellKnight" <jordand...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Fuck it. I don't
> even care anymore,

Yes, it looks like you don't.

mo_charles

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:29:00 AM11/23/09
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> One year ago I lent Rick $22 on Stars. He claimed I would be paid back
> within four days. I ended up betting him on football twice, and he ended
> up owing $84 after two lost bets. Despite numerous emails, he offered up
> nothing but excuses for why he couldn't pay and false promises that he
> would. He welched.
>
> I have written off any hope of ever getting paid months ago, but still I
> gave Rick the courtesy of not calling him out for the welch he is on RGP.
> But now that it's been a year, and I even emailed Rick 2 days ago to give
> him a last chance, and he didnt even bother to reply. Fuck it. I don't
> even care anymore, I don't need to deal with welches. Have a good life
> DaWelch.

i think he's in pretty bad physical shape at this point.

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K9way

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:49:14 AM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 8:12 AM, FellKnight wrote:

> One year ago I lent Rick $22 on Stars. He claimed I would be paid back
> within four days. I ended up betting him on football twice, and he ended
> up owing $84 after two lost bets. Despite numerous emails, he offered up
> nothing but excuses for why he couldn't pay and false promises that he
> would. He welched.
>
> I have written off any hope of ever getting paid months ago, but still I
> gave Rick the courtesy of not calling him out for the welch he is on RGP.
> But now that it's been a year, and I even emailed Rick 2 days ago to give
> him a last chance, and he didnt even bother to reply. Fuck it. I don't
> even care anymore, I don't need to deal with welches. Have a good life
> DaWelch.
>
> Fell
> --
> "Don't underestimate Fell. He's a smart kid."
> - Paul Popinjay, RGP, Nov 15, 2008
>
> www.fellknight2.blogspot.com

LOW-LIFE POST ... TAKE IT LIKE A MAN .. TOTALLY LOW LIFE THING TO DO


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XaQ Morphy

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:51:04 AM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 7:12 AM, FellKnight wrote:

> One year ago I lent Rick $22 on Stars. He claimed I would be paid back
> within four days. I ended up betting him on football twice, and he ended
> up owing $84 after two lost bets. Despite numerous emails, he offered up
> nothing but excuses for why he couldn't pay and false promises that he
> would. He welched.
>
> I have written off any hope of ever getting paid months ago, but still I
> gave Rick the courtesy of not calling him out for the welch he is on RGP.
> But now that it's been a year, and I even emailed Rick 2 days ago to give
> him a last chance, and he didnt even bother to reply. Fuck it. I don't
> even care anymore, I don't need to deal with welches. Have a good life
> DaWelch.

Come on, sing with me!

Happy Welchday to you, Happy Welchday to you,
Hey, can I borrow $20? I'll pay back double on Tuesday!
Happy Welchday to you!

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xaqm...@donkeymanifesto.com
http://www.donkeymanifesto.com

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XaQ Morphy

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:56:33 AM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 7:36 AM, Will_gamble wrote:

> What? This can't be! Rick doesn't have the means to pay off a gambling
> debt? Let's see... Lending money to and then betting a guy that has no
> job and solicits donations to get his wife out of jail on a news group
> seems like a +EV move to me.
>
> So after you do something this stupid, you call him out to in an attempt
> to further humiliate him. Don't you think he has enough problems?

He doesn't have the means to pay off $84 over ONE YEAR but has the means
to bet on football games every week?

G
T
F
O
H

Ron Dworkin

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:03:12 AM11/23/09
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Why do you think that is a low life post? I say its a quality PSA by
Fell.

Paul Popinjay

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:04:46 AM11/23/09
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"XaQ Morphy" <a1c...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> He doesn't have the means to pay off $84 over ONE YEAR but has the means
> to bet on football games every week?
>
> G
> T
> F
> O
> H
>


Yeah, we get the picture, numb nuts. But Rick ain't right in the head, and
to us who have been around the gambling business for years, we have seen
plenty of this type of behavior. It is nothing shocking. So why don't you
just shut the fuck up, Potsie, you just want to add fuel to the fire, but
the guy ain't right. Leave it alone, fuck face. Who needs you to narrate
this event? Nobody, that's who. Some of us like Rick, despite the obvious
character flaws. We empathize, and are not mean-spirited. You, on the
other hand, seem to suck right now. You and your cohort, FellSmell, find
something else to dog pile on.


garycarson

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:10:03 AM11/23/09
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> On Nov 23 2009 7:12 AM, FellKnight wrote:
>
> > One year ago I lent Rick $22 on Stars. He claimed I would be paid back
> > within four days. I ended up betting him on football twice, and he ended
> > up owing $84 after two lost bets. Despite numerous emails, he offered up
> > nothing but excuses for why he couldn't pay and false promises that he
> > would. He welched.
> >
> > I have written off any hope of ever getting paid months ago,

Wouldn't that mean the debt is now zero? Or does "written off" have some
special Canuk meaning that ordinary people don't understand?

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Paul Popinjay

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:09:18 AM11/23/09
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"Ron Dworkin" <toddb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Why do you think that is a low life post? I say its a quality PSA by
> Fell.
>


Maybe because tv scooter morons, like you and Morphy/Potsie, are still too
young, or dumb, to recognize the right road to take. Doggy has been around
the block, and at least has some tact. I could easily imagine you young
blowhards shouting at a guy on a ledge to jump. You people have been raise
far too easily. You're not right.


XaQ Morphy

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:21:05 AM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 9:04 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:

> Yeah, we get the picture, numb nuts. But Rick ain't right in the head, and
> to us who have been around the gambling business for years, we have seen
> plenty of this type of behavior. It is nothing shocking. So why don't you
> just shut the fuck up, Potsie, you just want to add fuel to the fire, but
> the guy ain't right. Leave it alone, fuck face. Who needs you to narrate
> this event? Nobody, that's who. Some of us like Rick, despite the obvious
> character flaws. We empathize, and are not mean-spirited. You, on the
> other hand, seem to suck right now. You and your cohort, FellSmell, find
> something else to dog pile on.

Hey Paul, can I borrow $84? Thanks,

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Ron Dworkin

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:24:43 AM11/23/09
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OK, well, you haven't said anything other than you think Doggy is
correct and Fell is wrong. You didn't answer my question as to why
that is. I would expect Doggie to have answered me with a meaningless
anecdote about a broke regular in 1982 1-2 game in Reno, but a man of
your stature, well, I would have expected something more concrete.

XaQ Morphy

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Nov 23, 2009, 11:42:26 AM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 9:09 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:

> Maybe because tv scooter morons, like you and Morphy/Potsie, are still too
> young, or dumb, to recognize the right road to take. Doggy has been around
> the block, and at least has some tact. I could easily imagine you young
> blowhards shouting at a guy on a ledge to jump. You people have been raise
> far too easily. You're not right.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.gambling.poker/tree/browse_frm/thread/32ac550d09d2ff57/e298c1c56fb7c0f9?rnum=21&q=davoice+group%3Arec.gambling.poker&_done=%2Fgroup%2Frec.gambling.poker%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2F32ac550d09d2ff57%2Fa010d5a340544176%3Fq%3Ddavoice%2Bgroup%253Arec.gambling.poker%26#doc_0d304513f2afd7e5


http://groups.google.com/group/rec.gambling.poker/tree/browse_frm/thread/32ac550d09d2ff57/e298c1c56fb7c0f9?rnum=21&q=davoice+group%3Arec.gambling.poker&_done=%2Fgroup%2Frec.gambling.poker%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2F32ac550d09d2ff57%2Fa010d5a340544176%3Fq%3Ddavoice%2Bgroup%253Arec.gambling.poker%26#doc_b8fe01894f9570c7

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.gambling.poker/tree/browse_frm/thread/32ac550d09d2ff57/d5bf9612798e0cd7?rnum=31&q=davoice+group%3Arec.gambling.poker&_done=%2Fgroup%2Frec.gambling.poker%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2F32ac550d09d2ff57%2Fa010d5a340544176%3Fq%3Ddavoice%2Bgroup%253Arec.gambling.poker%26#doc_5b4970c38dea2117

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lvdlrs

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:08:15 PM11/23/09
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Excellent post PP.

Gary (...) Philips

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XaQ Morphy

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:14:05 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 11:08 AM, lvdlrs wrote:

> Excellent post PP.

So we're just supposed to forgive the guy for making bets he can't pay
because he's a problem gambler?

Do we forgive the kleptomaniac because he can't help himself from
shoplifting? Should we forgive the mass murderer because he can't control
his urge to stop killing?

Do we just say "oh that's ok, you can go on doing these things because we
realize you have a problem. It's ok."?

Really?

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Ron Dworkin

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:35:44 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23, 12:14 pm, "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> On Nov 23 2009 11:08 AM, lvdlrs wrote:
>
> > Excellent post PP.
>
> So we're just supposed to forgive the guy for making bets he can't pay
> because he's a problem gambler?
>
> Do we forgive the kleptomaniac because he can't help himself from
> shoplifting?  Should we forgive the mass murderer because he can't control
> his urge to stop killing?
>
> Do we just say "oh that's ok, you can go on doing these things because we
> realize you have a problem.  It's ok."?
>
> Really?
>
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Don't forget "its ok because PP and others still like him despite his
problems"

XaQ Morphy

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:49:59 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 11:35 AM, Ron Dworkin wrote:

> Don't forget "its ok because PP and others still like him despite his
> problems"

Holy shit you're right. I do have to apologize. I just looked up the
official statues and according to Article 15 subsection 9a, paragraph 3,
and I quote:

"If the Asst. Newsgroup Ass likes a person in question, they may welch on
any and all debts, gambling, friendly, or otherwise."

That must be why Paul likes Igotskillz so much.

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BillB

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Nov 23, 2009, 1:15:28 PM11/23/09
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Yeah, we get the picture, numb nuts. But Paul ain't right in the

> head, and to us who have been around the gambling business for
> years, we have seen plenty of this type of behavior. It is nothing

> shocking. Some of us like Paul, despite the obvious character
> flaws.

Fixed your post.

lvdlrs

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Nov 23, 2009, 1:20:26 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 12:14 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> On Nov 23 2009 11:08 AM, lvdlrs wrote:
>
> > Excellent post PP.
>
> So we're just supposed to forgive the guy for making bets he can't pay
> because he's a problem gambler?
>
> Do we forgive the kleptomaniac because he can't help himself from
> shoplifting? Should we forgive the mass murderer because he can't control
> his urge to stop killing?
>
> Do we just say "oh that's ok, you can go on doing these things because we
> realize you have a problem. It's ok."?
>
> Really?

If you tried judging on an individual basis instead of using guidelines
and you wouldn't make
such gigantic leaps of logic. You just equated mass murderers with
someone who has
an original debt of $22.

You've seen that beer commercial where they pick on the guy's attire and
hair? In the
end they buy him a beer because in spite of his shortcomings, he's one of
the guys. Rick
is one of the guys. Has been for a long time now.

Rick's life hasn't been right since hurricane Katrina. Those who knew him
before knew
a much different person. I still laugh at the memory of he and his buddy
Fitch after coming
in first and second in the press poker tournament at the Gold Strike
running around and
whooping it up with those gigantic cardboard checks under their arms.

Then there was the time Rick set up a radio interview for me with Eric
Rosenberg during
the WPO at the Gold Strike. Eric suckerpunched me with a question I
wasn't expecting
and shouldn't have been asked. Later it was Rick, not Eric, who called
and apologized.

Today his body is a wreck and the medication he takes has destroyed way
too many
brain cells. Yeah Rick gets a pass. Not because what he does now is
right, but because
of who he once was. I, and many like me, simply don't allow him to be in
a position where
he owes me any more money or if I do, recognize it for what it really is,
a gift and not a loan.

Gary (...) Philips

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Ron Dworkin

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Nov 23, 2009, 1:43:26 PM11/23/09
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Right, so he gets a pass from yo because you (and/or PP, doggie, etc)
because you guys are friends.

Jason Pawloski

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Nov 23, 2009, 1:51:15 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 6:12 AM, FellKnight wrote:

> One year ago I lent Rick $22 on Stars. He claimed I would be paid back
> within four days. I ended up betting him on football twice, and he ended
> up owing $84 after two lost bets. Despite numerous emails, he offered up
> nothing but excuses for why he couldn't pay and false promises that he
> would. He welched.
>
> I have written off any hope of ever getting paid months ago, but still I
> gave Rick the courtesy of not calling him out for the welch he is on RGP.
> But now that it's been a year, and I even emailed Rick 2 days ago to give
> him a last chance, and he didnt even bother to reply. Fuck it. I don't
> even care anymore, I don't need to deal with welches. Have a good life
> DaWelch.
>
> Fell
> --
> "Don't underestimate Fell. He's a smart kid."
> - Paul Popinjay, RGP, Nov 15, 2008
>
> www.fellknight2.blogspot.com

I've never understood why igotskillz was treated so harshly after he
welched, but Rick Charles gets a pass. Don't get me wrong, I like RC, and
I really do not like igotskillz, but if you look at the two situations
they are fairly close.

Maybe skillz is treated so harshly because he is so obviously mentally
ill? Maybe you guys like to beat up on mostly helpless people with severe
emotional problems like skillz? Is that it?

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Nov 23, 2009, 1:48:50 PM11/23/09
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"XaQ Morphy" <a1c...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Nov 23 2009 11:35 AM, Ron Dworkin wrote:
>
>> Don't forget "its ok because PP and others still like him despite his
>> problems"
>
> Holy shit you're right. I do have to apologize. I just looked up the
> official statues and according to Article 15 subsection 9a, paragraph 3,
> and I quote:
>
> "If the Asst. Newsgroup Ass likes a person in question, they may welch on
> any and all debts, gambling, friendly, or otherwise."
>

No, here's the deal, you shallow little fuck. No one is saying welching is
ok, at anytime. But you guys know he ain't right, and you shoulda just
dropped it and Fell never shoulda brought it up this morning like he did.
You guys are totally mean-spirited today. It's shameful. And you're like
sitting there on the edge of your bed and posting only minutes after someone
else posts because you can't wait to jump in and try to hurt someone. What
if the guy was suicidal? What if he was, and reading your post, or Ron
Donkin's, or Fell's, was the straw that broke the camel's back? Well? What
if, fuck face? Why don't you just leave it alone? When Doggy said that was
a low blow, what he meant was that he has enough sense to know when enough
is enough. Get off the guy's case, that's all. All three of you have shown
what rude and insensitive and shallow fucks you are. You, Fell, and
Donkins. Shut up already, it ain't cute.


Paul Popinjay

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Nov 23, 2009, 1:38:49 PM11/23/09
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"Ron Dworkin" <toddb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> but a man of
> your stature,


What's this? A fat-joke?


Paul Popinjay

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"Ron Dworkin" <toddb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Right, so he gets a pass from yo because you (and/or PP, doggie, etc)
> because you guys are friends.


He gets a pass because he is a troubled human being. Try being one
sometime.


Paul Popinjay

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Nov 23, 2009, 2:02:13 PM11/23/09
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"Jason Pawloski" <a67...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> I've never understood why igotskillz was treated so harshly after he
> welched, but Rick Charles gets a pass. Don't get me wrong, I like RC, and
> I really do not like igotskillz, but if you look at the two situations
> they are fairly close.
>
> Maybe skillz is treated so harshly because he is so obviously mentally
> ill? Maybe you guys like to beat up on mostly helpless people with severe
> emotional problems like skillz? Is that it?
>


Apples and oranges. Skillz is crazy, but he's stable and crazy. Nobody
believes he is about to go off the deep end. He has never given any
indication anyway. In that regard, what about me? Look how obviously
lonely I am, yet I am the most abused RGPer in all of RGP history. Everyone
picks on Popinjay, and you have often joined in the "fun", Jason. What if
some night on the news there's a little short black guy on top of a major
casino in Henderson with a BB gun? Won't YOU feel guilty!

BTSinAustin

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Nov 23, 2009, 2:10:29 PM11/23/09
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This is a gambling newsgroup. Not a political sock puppet group where
feelings matter. In gambling people pay their debts or they are scum, no
excuses.

Questions?

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XaQ Morphy

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Nov 23, 2009, 2:13:53 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 12:48 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:

> No, here's the deal, you shallow little fuck. No one is saying welching is
> ok, at anytime. But you guys know he ain't right, and you shoulda just
> dropped it and Fell never shoulda brought it up this morning like he did.
> You guys are totally mean-spirited today. It's shameful. And you're like
> sitting there on the edge of your bed and posting only minutes after someone
> else posts because you can't wait to jump in and try to hurt someone. What
> if the guy was suicidal? What if he was, and reading your post, or Ron
> Donkin's, or Fell's, was the straw that broke the camel's back? Well? What
> if, fuck face? Why don't you just leave it alone? When Doggy said that was
> a low blow, what he meant was that he has enough sense to know when enough
> is enough. Get off the guy's case, that's all. All three of you have shown
> what rude and insensitive and shallow fucks you are. You, Fell, and
> Donkins. Shut up already, it ain't cute.

What if? I'll tell you what. If this was such a big problem he shouldn't
have spent his time begging on RGP for stakes and loans, and then put
himself into a situation where he had to lie to someone and make up
excuses for a year over $84.

That's what if.

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BTSinAustin

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Nov 23, 2009, 2:15:08 PM11/23/09
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Odd talk from a guy who in just this tread called people...

SmellFell
Fuck Face
Shallow little fuck
Shallow fucks

And that is just what I remember

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XaQ Morphy

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Nov 23, 2009, 2:16:18 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 1:02 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:

> Apples and oranges. Skillz is crazy, but he's stable and crazy. Nobody
> believes he is about to go off the deep end. He has never given any
> indication anyway. In that regard, what about me? Look how obviously
> lonely I am, yet I am the most abused RGPer in all of RGP history. Everyone
> picks on Popinjay, and you have often joined in the "fun", Jason. What if
> some night on the news there's a little short black guy on top of a major
> casino in Henderson with a BB gun? Won't YOU feel guilty!

Hey Paul, can I borrow $22? I'll pay you back next Tuesday, I promise.

mo_charles

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Nov 23, 2009, 2:25:57 PM11/23/09
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> > Apples and oranges. Skillz is crazy, but he's stable and crazy. Nobody
> > believes he is about to go off the deep end. He has never given any
> > indication anyway. In that regard, what about me? Look how obviously
> > lonely I am, yet I am the most abused RGPer in all of RGP history.
Everyone
> > picks on Popinjay, and you have often joined in the "fun", Jason. What if
> > some night on the news there's a little short black guy on top of a major
> > casino in Henderson with a BB gun? Won't YOU feel guilty!
>
> Hey Paul, can I borrow $22? I'll pay you back next Tuesday, I promise.

lend somebody some money; listen to excuses. THEN book some football
bets with him. seriously, how big a retard can a guy be?

mo_charles

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susan

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"BTSinAustin" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
news:si3rt6x...@recgroups.com...

> On Nov 23 2009 1:52 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
>
>> "Ron Dworkin" <toddb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:3fae56b8-2214-41c6...@m13g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > Right, so he gets a pass from yo because you (and/or PP, doggie, etc)
>> > because you guys are friends.
>>
>>
>> He gets a pass because he is a troubled human being. Try being one
>> sometime.
>
> Odd talk from a guy who in just this tread called people...
>
> SmellFell
> Fuck Face
> Shallow little fuck
> Shallow fucks
>
> And that is just what I remember

but those are terms of endearment in Pauls vocabulary.


XaQ Morphy

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On Nov 23 2009 1:25 PM, mo_charles wrote:

> lend somebody some money; listen to excuses. THEN book some football
> bets with him. seriously, how big a retard can a guy be?

My understanding was that this was the timeline:

- Rick spent all day begging RGP for "stakes" or loans in the RGP games
- Fell loaned Rick $22
- Instead of paying the $22 back Rick wanted to "let it ride" so to speak
and make some football bets
- Rick lost said bets
- Time passed
- Excuses began
- etc.

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Ron Dworkin

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Nov 23, 2009, 2:44:55 PM11/23/09
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Why should he get a pass because he is troubled? You can both be
troubled and be decent and not a degen welching scum. I don't buy it.

O-PGManager

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Nov 23, 2009, 3:06:42 PM11/23/09
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> Today his body is a wreck and the medication he takes has destroyed way
> too many
> brain cells. Yeah Rick gets a pass. Not because what he does now is
> right, but because
> of who he once was.

Great post.


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Rec.Gambling.Poker
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mo_charles

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> > Today his body is a wreck and the medication he takes has destroyed way
> > too many
> > brain cells. Yeah Rick gets a pass. Not because what he does now is
> > right, but because
> > of who he once was.
>
> Great post.

why kick a guy who's down? christ almighty, it's eighty fucking dollars.

mo_charles

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phlash74

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Nov 23, 2009, 3:32:01 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 11:42 AM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> On Nov 23 2009 1:25 PM, mo_charles wrote:
>
> > lend somebody some money; listen to excuses. THEN book some football
> > bets with him. seriously, how big a retard can a guy be?
>
> My understanding was that this was the timeline:
>
> - Rick spent all day begging RGP for "stakes" or loans in the RGP games
> - Fell loaned Rick $22
> - Instead of paying the $22 back Rick wanted to "let it ride" so to speak
> and make some football bets
> - Rick lost said bets
> - Time passed
> - Excuses began
> - etc.
>
> ---
> Morphy
> xaqm...@donkeymanifesto.com
> http://www.donkeymanifesto.com

The problem I have with this timeline is Fell betting Rick AFTER he hadn't
paid back the original $22. I'd loan out small amounts that I could
afford to not see again to virtually any regular here, but if I didn't get
paid back promptly when agreed upon, I damn sure wouldn't bet that person
more money that I wouldn't see and give them a freeroll to get out from
under the debt. I'd only speak out about someone not repaying a loan or
welching on a bet if they were back on here asking for more money. I know
Fell was trying to do the right thing by loaning him some $$, but these
things have a way of blowing up in people's faces.

Michael
U.S. American

-----------------
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because you jammed it up Irish Mike's ass pretty good. Icing on the cake.
lol"

-Paul Popinjay, 3/19/08

I eat donks

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Nov 23, 2009, 3:39:17 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 3:10 PM, garycarson wrote:

> > On Nov 23 2009 7:12 AM, FellKnight wrote:
> >
> > > One year ago I lent Rick $22 on Stars. He claimed I would be paid back
> > > within four days. I ended up betting him on football twice, and he ended
> > > up owing $84 after two lost bets. Despite numerous emails, he offered up
> > > nothing but excuses for why he couldn't pay and false promises that he
> > > would. He welched.
> > >
> > > I have written off any hope of ever getting paid months ago,
>

> Wouldn't that mean the debt is now zero? Or does "written off" have some
> special Canuk meaning that ordinary people don't understand?

Far from it for me to leap to the defence of our dear T2 boy, but I really
think that you ought to take up some reading lessons. He stated that he
had 'written off any hope of ever getting paid', not 'written off the
debt', a big difference, dont you think?


Tsk, tsk. This coming from a self-styled author and academic?


'So donkeys, come rally,
And the last hand let us raise!
The miracle suck-outs will tally,
And save the donkey race!'

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"Ron Dworkin" <toddb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>Don't forget "its ok because PP and others still like him despite his
>problems"


It's not about liking Rick, it's about humiliating him here publicly when
he's already as low as he can go. What's the point of posting something
like that a year later? It says more about Fell than Rick. But, as Paul
pointed out, I think Fell and some of the others are younger guys and don't
have a good understanding of how life can lay a guy low.

None of which is an excuse for Rick making the bets and not paying, but it's
just a cautionary note that when a guy is already unconscious and
spread-eagle in the gutter, when you choose to run up and kick him hard in
the nuts anyway just be aware that karma's a bitch and there's no law that
says next time it can't be you laying there.


Jason Pawloski

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Nov 23, 2009, 4:07:12 PM11/23/09
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Incidentally, didn't Rick make a post about a brand new flat-screen TV
recently? My memory could be failing, but I think that is the case.

--
Voted RGP's Stupidest Poster on 3/22/09

"ONLY ONE PROBLEM .. The Constitution doesnt have a preamble , but the
declaration of Independence does !! YOU JUST CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP !!
:fuck facts ..i have some hate to spread!!" - Constitution scholar K9Way
giving RGP the business

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in on how little he knows about a train system that's been operational
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Jason Pawloski

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Nov 23, 2009, 4:09:01 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 12:02 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:

> "Jason Pawloski" <a67...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:362rt6x...@recgroups.com...
>
> >
> > I've never understood why igotskillz was treated so harshly after he
> > welched, but Rick Charles gets a pass. Don't get me wrong, I like RC, and
> > I really do not like igotskillz, but if you look at the two situations
> > they are fairly close.
> >
> > Maybe skillz is treated so harshly because he is so obviously mentally
> > ill? Maybe you guys like to beat up on mostly helpless people with severe
> > emotional problems like skillz? Is that it?
> >
>
>

Paul, I didn't read any of your post. You constantly make fun of my choice
to play (and win) at short paytable VP. You even called me a retard on my
Vegas trip report thread, when the paytables I were playing were either
close to 100% or better than a 100% (and all paytables were better than
100% when factoring cashback and comps)! Paul, you owe me an apology. What
you said really hurts my feelings and I will not read your posts anymore
until you apologize. I'm waiting fuckface. Apologize. Right now.

> Apples and oranges. Skillz is crazy, but he's stable and crazy. Nobody
> believes he is about to go off the deep end. He has never given any
> indication anyway. In that regard, what about me? Look how obviously
> lonely I am, yet I am the most abused RGPer in all of RGP history. Everyone
> picks on Popinjay, and you have often joined in the "fun", Jason. What if
> some night on the news there's a little short black guy on top of a major
> casino in Henderson with a BB gun? Won't YOU feel guilty!

--
Voted RGP's Stupidest Poster on 3/22/09

"ONLY ONE PROBLEM .. The Constitution doesnt have a preamble , but the
declaration of Independence does !! YOU JUST CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP !!
:fuck facts ..i have some hate to spread!!" - Constitution scholar K9Way
giving RGP the business

"BART [Bay Area Rapid Transit] is rather new." - Jerry Sturdivant chiming
in on how little he knows about a train system that's been operational
since 1972

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XaQ Morphy

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Nov 23, 2009, 4:20:19 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 2:51 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:

> It's not about liking Rick, it's about humiliating him here publicly when
> he's already as low as he can go. What's the point of posting something
> like that a year later? It says more about Fell than Rick. But, as Paul
> pointed out, I think Fell and some of the others are younger guys and don't
> have a good understanding of how life can lay a guy low.
>
> None of which is an excuse for Rick making the bets and not paying, but it's
> just a cautionary note that when a guy is already unconscious and
> spread-eagle in the gutter, when you choose to run up and kick him hard in
> the nuts anyway just be aware that karma's a bitch and there's no law that
> says next time it can't be you laying there.

The reason it was posted is because last time I posted something, Rick was
pretty quick to jump on that it was no where near a year, and that even
though it was none of my business, he would be paying Fell "before the
5th." Obviously he didn't state what month or even what year, but now
that it has been 1 full year, Fell posted it.

As far as how life can lay a guy low, you know, things happen. I was out
of work for 3 months this year with no income and a wife and 2 kids to
feed. Fell is in fucking Afghanistan for crying out loud.

Did either of us sit on RGP begging for money? Did we make bets vs.
people we couldn't pay off?

No. End of story.

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BTSinAustin

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Nov 23, 2009, 5:14:15 PM11/23/09
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Should have got the help of a Perfected Kundalini Yoga Master, none of
this would have happened.

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O-PGManager

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Nov 23, 2009, 5:21:32 PM11/23/09
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> My understanding was that this was the timeline:
>
> - Rick spent all day begging RGP for "stakes" or loans in the RGP games
> - Fell loaned Rick $22
> - Instead of paying the $22 back Rick wanted to "let it ride" so to speak
> and make some football bets
> - Rick lost said bets
> - Time passed
> - Excuses began
> - etc.

I have no reason to doubt this. He's clearly in the wrong, but the guy is
seriously troubled. Let it go.

Opie-GManager
Rec.Gambling.Poker
Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator reporting to Mr. Popinjay

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susan

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Nov 23, 2009, 5:30:42 PM11/23/09
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"BTSinAustin" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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do you happen to know one?


Murray Logan

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Nov 23, 2009, 5:36:44 PM11/23/09
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>
> I have no reason to doubt this. He's clearly in the wrong, but the guy is
> seriously troubled. Let it go.
>
> Opie-GManager
> Rec.Gambling.Poker
> Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator reporting to Mr. Popinjay
>

This is a gambling news group. Isn't it good citizenship to warn others
of the actions of a deadbeat scamming thief (no matter how nice his
table manners are)?


Mur

Paul Popinjay

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Nov 23, 2009, 5:45:41 PM11/23/09
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"BTSinAustin" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
news:si3rt6x...@recgroups.com...

>
> Odd talk from a guy who in just this tread called people...
>
> SmellFell
> Fuck Face
> Shallow little fuck
> Shallow fucks
>


Don't forget "numb nuts", numb nuts.


BTSinAustin

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:02:22 PM11/23/09
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Rumor has it!


"You had better believe that there is no scarier sight on Earth than the
sight of Ramashiva transformed into the Angel of Death."
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BTSinAustin

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Thanks numb nuts

"You had better believe that there is no scarier sight on Earth than the
sight of Ramashiva transformed into the Angel of Death."
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2735/4129434416_6fd338d387.jpg

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K9way

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:45:15 PM11/23/09
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MORPHY .. you are a bigger fuckin coward than fell Nit .. What pleasure
do you get out of kicking someone when they are down ?

What do you get out of it ?

Does it make you feel like a man ?

Fell starts it and you , for no reason , want to get in a few punches ?

MAN ..YOU ARE A COWARD .. and a piss poor one at that !!

Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"

gtech1

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Nov 23, 2009, 7:05:09 PM11/23/09
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That doesn't change the point of mo's post, i.e. that FellKnight isn't
exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer if he let Rick Charles go double
or nothing not once, but twice, after he lent him the money to start.
Obviously Rick Charles is in the wrong for not paying the $22 back and for
not paying the bets, but this is what happens sometimes when you lend
money to people you don't know.

On Nov 23 2009 2:42 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> On Nov 23 2009 1:25 PM, mo_charles wrote:
>
> > lend somebody some money; listen to excuses. THEN book some football
> > bets with him. seriously, how big a retard can a guy be?
>
> My understanding was that this was the timeline:
>
> - Rick spent all day begging RGP for "stakes" or loans in the RGP games
> - Fell loaned Rick $22
> - Instead of paying the $22 back Rick wanted to "let it ride" so to speak
> and make some football bets
> - Rick lost said bets
> - Time passed
> - Excuses began
> - etc.
>
> ---
> Morphy
> xaqm...@donkeymanifesto.com
> http://www.donkeymanifesto.com

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Nov 23, 2009, 7:19:56 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 5:45 PM, K9way wrote:

> MORPHY .. you are a bigger fuckin coward than fell Nit .. What pleasure
> do you get out of kicking someone when they are down ?
>
> What do you get out of it ?
>
> Does it make you feel like a man ?
>
> Fell starts it and you , for no reason , want to get in a few punches ?
>
> MAN ..YOU ARE A COWARD .. and a piss poor one at that !!

You're a fucking moron doggy. The bottom line is that someone on RGP who
was a trusted individual (don't believe me? ask all those who stuck up
for him in this thread), has lied for over a year about paying back debts,
meanwhile bragging about buying big screen tv's and making all sorts of
sports bets. If he had so many problems he shouldn't have borrowed money
in the first place.

As a public service to RGP these types of people need to be pointed out,
because they use their "charm" to scam people out of money with no
intentions of paying it back.

If you don't see this, and it's obvious you don't, I don't know what to
say. Maybe in 1976 it was ok for people to run up debt and lie about it
with no intentions of paying it back, but that's not the case in 2009.

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K9way

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Nov 23, 2009, 7:35:40 PM11/23/09
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No Morph .. this isnt about any type of 'public service" .. this about a
bunch of children getting an opportunity to hurt someone to make them
selves feel better .

being on top doesnt mean anything to your crowd .. it means nothing unles
you have someone to "HURT"

You and your piss ant friends have mangaed to insult and hurt someone who
most likely is dying , and simply justified it by mentioning the 84
dollars .

Your behavior in this is no better than a gang of thugs mugging an old
lady .

YOU ARE A LOSER AND A COWARD . your entire existence on this group is for
the purpose of lashing out and trying to hurt someone ..ANYONE .

I can only imagine what happened to you , prior in life , for you to be
this cowardly and this hurtful.

What if Rick is in the hospital dying ?

What if he is already dead ?

Do you and your ilk get 'extra points " if you make a dying man feel worse
?

and .. HOW THE FUCK IS IT ANY OF YOUR BUSINESS ?

Are you and your Gf fellNit 'partners' in this 22 dollar debt ?

Did it somehow cripple you 2 "nits" financially ?

You are not a 'public service" .. you are a public disgrace .

You often mantion that poker has passed me by .. maybe so .

But being a human being has not !!

i wish i could say the same for you .

Put this thread on a disc and when your oldest child has trouble making
the rent or utility bill when they grow up, dig the disc out and show them
what a compassionate man their father was .

Only a true coward thinks compassion is a 'weakness"


Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"

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XaQ Morphy

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On Nov 23 2009 6:35 PM, K9way wrote:

<snip crap>

Idiot.

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O-PGManager

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Nov 23, 2009, 7:41:31 PM11/23/09
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> As far as how life can lay a guy low, you know, things happen. I was out
> of work for 3 months this year with no income and a wife and 2 kids to
> feed.

Morphy if that is your idea of tough times you're a lucky man.

Opie-GManager
Rec.Gambling.Poker
Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator reporting to Mr. Popinjay

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O-PGManager

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:05:32 PM11/23/09
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> has lied for over a year about paying back debts,
> meanwhile bragging about buying big screen tv's and making all sorts of
> sports bets.

I just spent 15 minutes looking for this and found nothing. Back in March
he said he broke and no longer betting, that's the only mention of it.

Opie-GManager
Rec.Gambling.Poker
Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator reporting to Mr. Popinjay

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K9way

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:14:52 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 8:05 PM, O-PGManager wrote:

> > has lied for over a year about paying back debts,
> > meanwhile bragging about buying big screen tv's and making all sorts of
> > sports bets.
>
> I just spent 15 minutes looking for this and found nothing. Back in March
> he said he broke and no longer betting, that's the only mention of it.
>
> Opie-GManager
> Rec.Gambling.Poker
> Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator reporting to Mr. Popinjay

I remember him posting his "picks" earlier in the year . i dont remember
him posting anything about 'betting " them .

these TVSM assholes dont care about facts .. the pure pleasure of hurting
someone less fortunate than themselves is satisfaction enough .

kinda makes you wonder how poorly life has treated them !!


Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"

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XaQ Morphy

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:25:22 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 7:05 PM, O-PGManager wrote:

> I just spent 15 minutes looking for this and found nothing. Back in March
> he said he broke and no longer betting, that's the only mention of it.

I have to question your qualifications as Ass Coordinator of an Internet
newsgroup if you can't figure out how to use a simple Internet search
engine. Has anyone validated your so-called qualifications for this
position?

Pepe Papon

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:10:49 PM11/23/09
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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:52:23 -0800, "Paul Popinjay"
<paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>"Ron Dworkin" <toddb...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>news:3fae56b8-2214-41c6...@m13g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Right, so he gets a pass from yo because you (and/or PP, doggie, etc)
>> because you guys are friends.
>
>
>He gets a pass because he is a troubled human being. Try being one
>sometime.
>

Who would want to try being a troubled human being?
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Nov 23, 2009, 9:14:27 PM11/23/09
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"Murray Logan" <murray...@telus.net> wrote in message
news:08EOm.53237$Db2.6402@edtnps83...

> This is a gambling news group. Isn't it good citizenship to warn others of
> the actions of a deadbeat scamming thief (no matter how nice his table
> manners are)?

Yes. But that's not what he was doing.


Travel A

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:19:00 PM11/23/09
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Dworkin blithered:
Why do you think that is a low life post? I say its a quality PSA by
Fell.

The Jayster wrote:
Maybe because tv scooter morons, like you and Morphy/Potsie, are still
too young, or dumb, to recognize the right road to take. Doggy has been
around the block, and at least has some tact. I could easily imagine you
young blowhards shouting at a guy on a ledge to jump. You people have
been raise far too easily. You're not right.

I wrote:
Dworkin's the snarkiest little cheap-shot pansy who ever posted. Plus,
he's a dumb-fuck.

Travel A

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:23:36 PM11/23/09
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Dworkin whined:
Ron Dworkin <toddb...@gmail.com>

"OK, well, you haven't said anything other than you think Doggy is
correct and Fell is wrong. You didn't answer my question as to why that
is."


I wrote:
It's because you're a douchebag.

Travel A

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:34:50 PM11/23/09
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Re: Rick Charles is a welch
Group: rec.gambling.poker
Date: Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 10:43am
From: Ron Dworkin <toddb...@gmail.com>

Right, so he gets a pass from yo because you (and/or PP, doggie, etc)
because you guys are friends.

I wrote:
No, Dworkin, you're assholes for posting this in a public forum in the
first place. Why should anyone assist in any way, or give a fuck about
what you three little girls are whining about.

FL Turbo

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:49:32 PM11/23/09
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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:25:22 -0800, "XaQ Morphy"
<a1c...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:

>On Nov 23 2009 7:05 PM, O-PGManager wrote:
>
>> I just spent 15 minutes looking for this and found nothing. Back in March
>> he said he broke and no longer betting, that's the only mention of it.
>
>I have to question your qualifications as Ass Coordinator of an Internet
>newsgroup if you can't figure out how to use a simple Internet search
>engine. Has anyone validated your so-called qualifications for this
>position?
>

Wow!

You just don't know when to quit, do you?

Dissin' an RGP official now?

I wouldn't want to be you when Ramashiva sees this.

XaQ Morphy

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:11:19 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 8:49 PM, FL Turbo wrote:

> Wow!
>
> You just don't know when to quit, do you?

Obv?

> Dissin' an RGP official now?
>
> I wouldn't want to be you when Ramashiva sees this.

I think Ramashiva would agree with me. We can't have elected officials of
an Internet newsgroup who are unable to use the simplest of Internet
tools. We just can't. That ruins the integrity that is the office of RGP.

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risky biz

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:40:54 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 10:35 AM, Ron Dworkin wrote:

> On Nov 23, 12:14�pm, "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> > On Nov 23 2009 11:08 AM, lvdlrs wrote:
> >
> > > Excellent post PP.
> >
> > So we're just supposed to forgive the guy for making bets he can't pay
> > because he's a problem gambler?
> >
> > Do we forgive the kleptomaniac because he can't help himself from
> > shoplifting? �Should we forgive the mass murderer because he can't control
> > his urge to stop killing?
> >
> > Do we just say "oh that's ok, you can go on doing these things because we
> > realize you have a problem. �It's ok."?
> >
> > Really?
> >
> > ---
> > Morphy
> > xaqmor...@donkeymanifesto.comhttp://www.donkeymanifesto.com
> >
> Don't forget "its ok because PP and others still like him despite his
> problems"

Maybe that's one of his problems.

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risky biz

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:47:16 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 11:20 AM, lvdlrs wrote:

> On Nov 23 2009 12:14 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
>
> > On Nov 23 2009 11:08 AM, lvdlrs wrote:
> >
> > > Excellent post PP.
> >
> > So we're just supposed to forgive the guy for making bets he can't pay
> > because he's a problem gambler?
> >
> > Do we forgive the kleptomaniac because he can't help himself from
> > shoplifting? Should we forgive the mass murderer because he can't control
> > his urge to stop killing?
> >
> > Do we just say "oh that's ok, you can go on doing these things because we
> > realize you have a problem. It's ok."?
> >
> > Really?
>

> If you tried judging on an individual basis instead of using guidelines
> and you wouldn't make
> such gigantic leaps of logic. You just equated mass murderers with
> someone who has
> an original debt of $22.
>
> You've seen that beer commercial where they pick on the guy's attire and
> hair? In the
> end they buy him a beer because in spite of his shortcomings, he's one of
> the guys. Rick
> is one of the guys. Has been for a long time now.
>
> Rick's life hasn't been right since hurricane Katrina. Those who knew him
> before knew
> a much different person. I still laugh at the memory of he and his buddy
> Fitch after coming
> in first and second in the press poker tournament at the Gold Strike
> running around and
> whooping it up with those gigantic cardboard checks under their arms.
>
> Then there was the time Rick set up a radio interview for me with Eric
> Rosenberg during
> the WPO at the Gold Strike. Eric suckerpunched me with a question I
> wasn't expecting
> and shouldn't have been asked. Later it was Rick, not Eric, who called
> and apologized.
>
> Today his body is a wreck and the medication he takes has destroyed way
> too many
> brain cells. Yeah Rick gets a pass. Not because what he does now is
> right, but because
> of who he once was. I, and many like me, simply don't allow him to be in
> a position where
> he owes me any more money or if I do, recognize it for what it really is,
> a gift and not a loan.
>
> Gary (...) Philips

Too bad you didn't mention all this to everyone . . oh . . like a year ago.

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risky biz

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On Nov 23 2009 1:16 PM, mo_charles wrote:

> > > Today his body is a wreck and the medication he takes has destroyed way
> > > too many
> > > brain cells. Yeah Rick gets a pass. Not because what he does now is
> > > right, but because
> > > of who he once was.
> >

> > Great post.
>
> why kick a guy who's down? christ almighty, it's eighty fucking dollars.
>
> mo_charles

mo, could you lend me eighty dollars? I'll pay you back by the 5th.

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risky biz

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:57:22 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 12:02 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:

> "Jason Pawloski" <a67...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:362rt6x...@recgroups.com...
>
> >
> > I've never understood why igotskillz was treated so harshly after he
> > welched, but Rick Charles gets a pass. Don't get me wrong, I like RC, and
> > I really do not like igotskillz, but if you look at the two situations
> > they are fairly close.
> >
> > Maybe skillz is treated so harshly because he is so obviously mentally
> > ill? Maybe you guys like to beat up on mostly helpless people with severe
> > emotional problems like skillz? Is that it?


> >
>
>
> Apples and oranges. Skillz is crazy, but he's stable and crazy. Nobody
> believes he is about to go off the deep end. He has never given any
> indication anyway. In that regard, what about me? Look how obviously
> lonely I am, yet I am the most abused RGPer in all of RGP history. Everyone
> picks on Popinjay, and you have often joined in the "fun", Jason. What if
> some night on the news there's a little short black guy on top of a major
> casino in Henderson with a BB gun? Won't YOU feel guilty!

Don't get a run in your stockings.

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risky biz

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:56:24 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 11:51 AM, Jason Pawloski wrote:

> On Nov 23 2009 6:12 AM, FellKnight wrote:
>
> > One year ago I lent Rick $22 on Stars. He claimed I would be paid back
> > within four days. I ended up betting him on football twice, and he ended
> > up owing $84 after two lost bets. Despite numerous emails, he offered up
> > nothing but excuses for why he couldn't pay and false promises that he
> > would. He welched.
> >
> > I have written off any hope of ever getting paid months ago, but still I
> > gave Rick the courtesy of not calling him out for the welch he is on RGP.
> > But now that it's been a year, and I even emailed Rick 2 days ago to give
> > him a last chance, and he didnt even bother to reply. Fuck it. I don't
> > even care anymore, I don't need to deal with welches. Have a good life
> > DaWelch.
> >
> > Fell
> > --
> > "Don't underestimate Fell. He's a smart kid."
> > - Paul Popinjay, RGP, Nov 15, 2008
> >
> > www.fellknight2.blogspot.com


>
> I've never understood why igotskillz was treated so harshly after he
> welched, but Rick Charles gets a pass. Don't get me wrong, I like RC, and
> I really do not like igotskillz, but if you look at the two situations
> they are fairly close.
>
> Maybe skillz is treated so harshly because he is so obviously mentally
> ill? Maybe you guys like to beat up on mostly helpless people with severe
> emotional problems like skillz? Is that it?

Speaking for myself in specific reference to igotskillz, yes.

risky biz

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On Nov 23 2009 12:25 PM, mo_charles wrote:

> > > Apples and oranges. Skillz is crazy, but he's stable and crazy. Nobody
> > > believes he is about to go off the deep end. He has never given any
> > > indication anyway. In that regard, what about me? Look how obviously
> > > lonely I am, yet I am the most abused RGPer in all of RGP history.
> Everyone
> > > picks on Popinjay, and you have often joined in the "fun", Jason. What
if
> > > some night on the news there's a little short black guy on top of a
major
> > > casino in Henderson with a BB gun? Won't YOU feel guilty!
> >

> > Hey Paul, can I borrow $22? I'll pay you back next Tuesday, I promise.


>
> lend somebody some money; listen to excuses. THEN book some football
> bets with him. seriously, how big a retard can a guy be?
>

> mo_charles

Yeah, you're stating to make sense here. It isn't the welch who's a dick,
it's the guy who was dumb enough to feel sorry for him and loan him money
and take his bet.

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Jason Pawloski

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Nov 23, 2009, 11:03:07 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 8:59 PM, risky biz wrote:

> On Nov 23 2009 12:25 PM, mo_charles wrote:
>
> > > > Apples and oranges. Skillz is crazy, but he's stable and crazy.
Nobody
> > > > believes he is about to go off the deep end. He has never given any
> > > > indication anyway. In that regard, what about me? Look how obviously
> > > > lonely I am, yet I am the most abused RGPer in all of RGP history.
> > Everyone
> > > > picks on Popinjay, and you have often joined in the "fun", Jason. What
> if
> > > > some night on the news there's a little short black guy on top of a
> major
> > > > casino in Henderson with a BB gun? Won't YOU feel guilty!
> > >
> > > Hey Paul, can I borrow $22? I'll pay you back next Tuesday, I promise.
> >
> > lend somebody some money; listen to excuses. THEN book some football
> > bets with him. seriously, how big a retard can a guy be?
> >
> > mo_charles
>
> Yeah, you're stating to make sense here. It isn't the welch who's a dick,
> it's the guy who was dumb enough to feel sorry for him and loan him money
> and take his bet.

People who say things like what Mo said are the ones that like to blame
the woman for being raped. "If only she didn't dress so attractively...
seriously, how big a retard can a girl be?"

--
Voted RGP's Stupidest Poster on 3/22/09

"ONLY ONE PROBLEM .. The Constitution doesnt have a preamble , but the
declaration of Independence does !! YOU JUST CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP !!
:fuck facts ..i have some hate to spread!!" - Constitution scholar K9Way
giving RGP the business

"BART [Bay Area Rapid Transit] is rather new." - Jerry Sturdivant chiming
in on how little he knows about a train system that's been operational
since 1972

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risky biz

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Your compassion, Fell's money. This preaching would be a little more
acceptable if it was your money. Why don't you pay the debt for Rick since
it's so picayune and you're so concerned about him?

risky biz

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Nov 23, 2009, 11:08:08 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 6:14 PM, K9way wrote:

> On Nov 23 2009 8:05 PM, O-PGManager wrote:
>
> > > has lied for over a year about paying back debts,
> > > meanwhile bragging about buying big screen tv's and making all sorts of
> > > sports bets.
> >
> > I just spent 15 minutes looking for this and found nothing. Back in March
> > he said he broke and no longer betting, that's the only mention of it.
> >
> > Opie-GManager
> > Rec.Gambling.Poker
> > Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator reporting to Mr. Popinjay
>
> I remember him posting his "picks" earlier in the year . i dont remember
> him posting anything about 'betting " them .
>
> these TVSM assholes dont care about facts .. the pure pleasure of hurting
> someone less fortunate than themselves is satisfaction enough .

It's "hurting someone" to ask them to pay you the $84 they owe you instead
of blowing their money on a widescreen TV? That's pretty weird reasoning.

risky biz

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Nov 23, 2009, 11:11:07 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 6:12 AM, FellKnight wrote:

> One year ago I lent Rick $22 on Stars. He claimed I would be paid back
> within four days. I ended up betting him on football twice, and he ended
> up owing $84 after two lost bets. Despite numerous emails, he offered up
> nothing but excuses for why he couldn't pay and false promises that he
> would. He welched.
>
> I have written off any hope of ever getting paid months ago, but still I
> gave Rick the courtesy of not calling him out for the welch he is on RGP.
> But now that it's been a year, and I even emailed Rick 2 days ago to give
> him a last chance, and he didnt even bother to reply. Fuck it. I don't
> even care anymore, I don't need to deal with welches. Have a good life
> DaWelch.
>
> Fell

I think this will be resolved to everyone's satisfaction when everyone who
is defending Rick's behavior steps up to the plate and fronts the
admittedly tiny sum, shared equally, for Rick's benefit. That'll be what-
about $10 - $15 each?

________________________________________________________________________�

lvdlrs

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Nov 23, 2009, 11:17:33 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23 2009 10:47 PM, risky biz wrote:

Maybe so, maybe so. Like my auto mechanic always tells me...

Gary (timing is everything) Philips

gtech1

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Who defended his behavior?

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O-PGManager

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> It's "hurting someone" to ask them to pay you the $84 they owe you instead
> of blowing their money on a widescreen TV? That's pretty weird reasoning.

When did he mention a tv? I looked over his posts from the past year and
saw nothing. This post should be easy to find, provide a link.

Opie-GManager
Rec.Gambling.Poker
Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator reporting to Mr. Popinjay

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gtech1

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He already posted that he'd pay the debt. Next.

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O-PGManager

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Nov 23, 2009, 11:56:42 PM11/23/09
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> I have to question your qualifications as Ass Coordinator of an Internet
> newsgroup if you can't figure out how to use a simple Internet search
> engine. Has anyone validated your so-called qualifications for this
> position?

Just tiptoe out of the thread Morphy. If posts existed of Rick bragging
about a new widescreen tv and making sports bets since his debt you
would've already provided the link.

Now you take an RGP official to task for failing to find something that
doesn't exist? This will not reflect well on your end of year review.

Opie-GManager
Rec.Gambling.Poker
Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator reporting to Mr. Popinjay

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XaQ Morphy

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:04:41 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 23 2009 10:50 PM, O-PGManager wrote:

> When did he mention a tv? I looked over his posts from the past year and
> saw nothing. This post should be easy to find, provide a link.

Took me less than 30 seconds to find it. You are hereby relieved of your
duties as Ass Coordinator.

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XaQ Morphy

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:05:19 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 23 2009 10:56 PM, O-PGManager wrote:

> Just tiptoe out of the thread Morphy. If posts existed of Rick bragging
> about a new widescreen tv and making sports bets since his debt you
> would've already provided the link.
>
> Now you take an RGP official to task for failing to find something that
> doesn't exist? This will not reflect well on your end of year review.

Care to make a bet that I can find the link you can't? Name your amount.

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risky biz

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:05:52 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 23 2009 9:52 PM, gtech1 wrote:

> Who defended his behavior?
>
> On Nov 23 2009 11:11 PM, risky biz wrote:
>
> > On Nov 23 2009 6:12 AM, FellKnight wrote:
> >
> > > One year ago I lent Rick $22 on Stars. He claimed I would be paid back
> > > within four days. I ended up betting him on football twice, and he ended
> > > up owing $84 after two lost bets. Despite numerous emails, he offered up
> > > nothing but excuses for why he couldn't pay and false promises that he
> > > would. He welched.
> > >
> > > I have written off any hope of ever getting paid months ago, but still I
> > > gave Rick the courtesy of not calling him out for the welch he is on
RGP.
> > > But now that it's been a year, and I even emailed Rick 2 days ago to give
> > > him a last chance, and he didnt even bother to reply. Fuck it. I don't
> > > even care anymore, I don't need to deal with welches. Have a good life
> > > DaWelch.
> > >
> > > Fell
> >
> > I think this will be resolved to everyone's satisfaction when everyone who
> > is defending Rick's behavior steps up to the plate and fronts the
> > admittedly tiny sum, shared equally, for Rick's benefit. That'll be what-
> > about $10 - $15 each?

Maybe I should have said, "Made excuses for it"?

K9way

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On Nov 23 2009 11:05 PM, risky biz wrote:

i already made that offer ..they arent cheating me at FTP


Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"

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K9way

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:12:32 AM11/24/09
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Actually , if he had done that ,it would have been a reasonable request .
What he has done here is take the lowest of low roads. Childish .
canibalistic and cheap

Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"

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risky biz

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:36:03 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 23 2009 9:50 PM, gtech1 wrote:

> He already posted that he'd pay the debt. Next.

I guess next would be actually paying the debt. But then, I guess Fell
would be doubly reprehensible if he brings that up a year from now.

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risky biz

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On Nov 23 2009 9:50 PM, O-PGManager wrote:

> > It's "hurting someone" to ask them to pay you the $84 they owe you instead
> > of blowing their money on a widescreen TV? That's pretty weird reasoning.
>
> When did he mention a tv? I looked over his posts from the past year and
> saw nothing. This post should be easy to find, provide a link.

Morphy says he has the link and he's willing to bet you on it. But then, I
guess that would make him a reprehensible sack of shit if you lose and he
actually asks you to pay the bet you lost.

Hey, everyone- if you think online poker is rigged check out RGP.

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O-PGManager

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Nov 24, 2009, 1:09:37 AM11/24/09
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> Care to make a bet that I can find the link you can't? Name your amount.

I'm sure you have a link of something concerning a tv that I can't find.
All I can find is Rick saying it was purchased for him by his son - and
that he's not betting anymore sports because he's busted. So as for the
claim about him bragging about tvs and making weekly sports bets, yeah I
doubt you can find that.

Or maybe you can - either way, your idea of truly tough times is 3 months
on unemployment so I doubt you'll understand why people are giving you a
hard time.

Opie-GManager
Rec.Gambling.Poker
Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator reporting to Mr. Popinjay

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da pickle

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Nov 24, 2009, 7:34:22 AM11/24/09
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"Jason Pawloski"

>> Yeah, you're stating to make sense here. It isn't the welch who's a dick,
>> it's the guy who was dumb enough to feel sorry for him and loan him money
>> and take his bet.
>
> People who say things like what Mo said are the ones that like to blame
> the woman for being raped. "If only she didn't dress so attractively...
> seriously, how big a retard can a girl be?"

Analogies don't provide much help; especially if they are really bad
analogies.

If you like the idea of abused women as an analogy source, try comparing
mo's comment with the idea that continuing a relationship that you know has
proved to be abusive to you in the past is not a good practice.

No one is praising someone who does not pay his debts. Some are indicating
that perhaps this thread is a bit of overkill.

(Do you, Jason, believe that Fell was feeling sorry for Rick when the first
bet was made and felt sorry for him when the second bet was made?)


lvdlrs

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On Nov 24 2009 7:34 AM, da pickle wrote:

> (Do you, Jason, believe that Fell was feeling sorry for Rick when the first
> bet was made and felt sorry for him when the second bet was made?)

I too was curious as to why Fell made those two bets. Fell why did you?

Gary (...) Philips

XaQ Morphy

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On Nov 24 2009 11:24 AM, lvdlrs wrote:

> I too was curious as to why Fell made those two bets. Fell why did you?

Maybe it was because Rick was being a total dick on RGP about how great
the Chargers were, proposing bets about baring his ass and having people
kiss it if they were to lose to him. Just a guess.

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lvdlrs

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Nov 24, 2009, 1:58:42 PM11/24/09
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On Nov 24 2009 12:32 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> On Nov 24 2009 11:24 AM, lvdlrs wrote:
>
> > I too was curious as to why Fell made those two bets. Fell why did you?
>
> Maybe it was because Rick was being a total dick on RGP about how great
> the Chargers were, proposing bets about baring his ass and having people
> kiss it if they were to lose to him. Just a guess.

Thanks Morph. I don't actually remember him doing that but maybe Rick did.
That aside, I am more interested in what Fell has to say rather than other
people's
best guesses however slanted they may be.

Gary (...) Philips

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K9way

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Nov 24, 2009, 2:46:05 PM11/24/09
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On Nov 24 2009 1:58 PM, lvdlrs wrote:

> On Nov 24 2009 12:32 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:
>
> > On Nov 24 2009 11:24 AM, lvdlrs wrote:
> >
> > > I too was curious as to why Fell made those two bets. Fell why did you?
> >
> > Maybe it was because Rick was being a total dick on RGP about how great
> > the Chargers were, proposing bets about baring his ass and having people
> > kiss it if they were to lose to him. Just a guess.
>
> Thanks Morph. I don't actually remember him doing that but maybe Rick did.
> That aside, I am more interested in what Fell has to say rather than other
> people's
> best guesses however slanted they may be.
>
> Gary (...) Philips

i dont think Morph is ever going to realize what a meddlesome cunt he is
being in this deal .


Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"

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XaQ Morphy

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On Nov 24 2009 1:46 PM, K9way wrote:

> i dont think Morph is ever going to realize what a meddlesome cunt he is
> being in this deal .

If you can't figure out exactly what I'm doing then you're a bigger moron
than I thought.

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Slim1Der

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On Nov 23, 11:02 am, "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopin...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> "Jason Pawloski" <a679...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>
> news:362rt6x...@recgroups.com...

>
>
>
> > I've never understood why igotskillz was treated so harshly after he
> > welched, but Rick Charles gets a pass. Don't get me wrong, I like RC, and
> > I really do not like igotskillz, but if you look at the two situations
> > they are fairly close.
>
> > Maybe skillz is treated so harshly because he is so obviously mentally
> > ill? Maybe you guys like to beat up on mostly helpless people with severe
> > emotional problems like skillz? Is that it?
>
> Apples and oranges.  Skillz is crazy, but he's stable and crazy.  Nobody
> believes he is about to go off the deep end.  He has never given any
> indication anyway.  In that regard, what about me?  Look how obviously
> lonely I am, yet I am the most abused RGPer in all of RGP history.  Everyone
> picks on Popinjay, and you have often joined in the "fun", Jason.  What if
> some night on the news there's a little short black guy on top of a major
> casino in Henderson with a BB gun?  Won't YOU feel guilty!

Paul, you're BLACK?

Patti Beadles

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Nov 24, 2009, 5:49:40 PM11/24/09
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My only response to the subject line is, "In other news, water
is wet."

You should be thankful that he's only into you for two figures.

And no, Gary, he doesn't have Katrina as an out. He was in
debt to friends long before that.

-Patti
--
Patti Beadles, Oakland, CA |
pattib~pattib.org | All religions are equally
http://www.pattib.org/ | ludicrous, and should be ridiculed
http://stopshootingauto.com | as often as possible. C. Bond

Bill T

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Nov 24, 2009, 6:12:24 PM11/24/09
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It sounds like this Rick Charles guy has gotten "loans" from several of
you with no wherewithal or desire to pay you back without winning the
lottery. It also sounds like he is poor and ill. No one is going to
collect any debts from him, so just leave him alone.

Besides, doesn't he have one or more kids who can contribute to the
welfare of their the ol' man and lady? I already do my share paying for
Medi-Caid and disabilty.

chandler

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Nov 24, 2009, 7:10:27 PM11/24/09
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On Nov 24 2009 7:34 AM, da pickle wrote:

> No one is praising someone who does not pay his debts. Some are indicating
> that perhaps this thread is a bit of overkill.
>
> (Do you, Jason, believe that Fell was feeling sorry for Rick when the first
> bet was made and felt sorry for him when the second bet was made?)

The thread is definitely a bit overkill in terms of response. One of
those longest thread attempts?

I was playing poker in Norman a while back. 2/5 NLHE. An old guy to my
right had bought in several times and was just awful. I flopped the nuts
and took his last buy in. I felt a little guilty when he showed down a
seriously inferior hand that any thinking card player should have gotten
away from. Maybe the money he lost that day was his social security
check. I don't know. I still took his money. I was stacking chips when
he walked away from the table.

A couple of things occur to me. The only recourse an individual who
doesn't get paid when booking a bet outside of a casino is to let others
know the offending party doesn't pay... the only recourse short of bodily
harm, anyway. The other thing is that when booking a bet with a friend,
you risk the friendship as well as the money.

Chandler

Paul Popinjay

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"Slim1Der" <mkmo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f0f43605-9d89-4225-9055-

> Paul, you're BLACK?


Of course. I thought everyone knew that. Here's my graduation picture.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22980481@N04/2669546291/


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