Runaway Prius in California
risky biz
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FL Turbo
<risk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>Authentic or ginning up a legal settlement?
>
I don't get it.
In a normal car, you could put the transmission in neutral, or turn
the ignition key off.
The closest thing I came to that problem was a piece of shit Pontiac
diesel I had once.
I went to start it, and the starter locked in and just started
cranking.
The ignition key didn't have any effect.
It just kept grinding away no matter what, until the battery terminals
melted off.
What is there about a Prius that I don't understand?
bub
wrote:
>I don't get it.
>
>In a normal car, you could put the transmission in neutral, or turn
>the ignition key off
like the lady who drove for i forgot how many miles, had time to call
her husband while she was "out of control"
turn the fucking thing off..put the fucking thing into neutral ..if
you have enough time to call your husband and drive for miles you got
time to figure out to turn it off.
two new ones today..sounds like sue for some quick money time.
one guy today called 911 asking what to do. had the police watch him
going fast. cop told him to put it in neutral but he was "afraid i
would put it in reverse by mistake". probably had time to call his
lawyer too.
Slim1Der
Yeah it looks really shady to me. I live 20 miles away from where that
happened.
johnny_t
drive by wire
Abbey Johnsson
> On Mar 9, 7:41�pm, "risky biz" <risky-...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > Authentic or ginning up a legal settlement?
> >
> Yeah it looks really shady to me. I live 20 miles away from where that
> happened.
good eyesight, man!
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Schmedley
I think they have some kind of push button ignition.
This shit is mainly pilot error or hysteria. Toyota didn't help with the
floormat nonsense.
Last year, the brake light sensor in my 94 Camry went bad, the kind of
thing that tells you it is time for the car to go. This defect meant you
couldnt tap out of cruise control, the engine would race to try to
maintain speed. It was a simple enough solution to manually turn off CC,
but kind of scary for a second.
You would think a responsible driver would NOT call 911 while racing down
the road. WTF is emergency going to do besides order up some green bags?
And this guy was worried it would go into Park or reverse? I would think
that is the fail safe in the situation - leave the drivertain on the road.
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risky biz
> On Mar 9, 7:41�pm, "risky biz" <risky-...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > Authentic or ginning up a legal settlement?
> >
> Yeah it looks really shady to me. I live 20 miles away from where that
> happened.
What do you think this one? It's a little further, though:
"Also, the police who responded to a crash Tuesday morning of a 2005 Prius
into a stone wall in Harrison, N.Y., said the floor mat had been tied to
the seat frame, presumably by a dealer.
�We can rule out the mats,� Harrison�s acting police chief, Anthony
Marraccini, said. �She probably traveled, accelerating, for over 100 feet,
maybe even more than that. The collision hurled a couple of large boulders
at least 10 feet away from the scene.�
Could be shady, too, and she was just hotdogging it.
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BillB
"risky biz" <risk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Authentic or ginning up a legal settlement?
The 911 call sounded very fishy. First thing you are going to do is
throw it in neutral or turn off your ignition, not reach for you cell
phone and call 911. Also, I didn't like his body language during the
CNN story. Plus, I understand his car isn't one of the recalled
models. I'm not sayin he's lying, but I'm afraid I'm not buying it.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"BillB" <bo...@shaw1.ca> wrote in message
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His story seems fine
On the same day that the automaker launched a counterattack against the
assertion that electronics may be at the heart of its runaway-acceleration
problem, a Toyota Prius with an apparently stuck gas pedal took its driver
on a 30-mile wild ride on an interstate not far from Toyota's U.S.
headquarters in Southern California.
Outside of San Diego on Monday, James Sikes found himself behind the wheel
of his blue Toyota 2008 Prius hybrid with what he said later was a stuck
accelerator. In an interview with ABC News after the incident, from which he
emerged safely, Sikes said his Prius sped up to 94 mph on its own.
Sikes said he looked to see if the floor mat was interfering with his gas
pedal, but it was not. He said that he tried to pull the gas pedal back with
his hand, but to no avail.
He then called 911 for help. A state trooper drove alongside him shortly
afterward on Interstate 8 and, through the cruiser's external speaker,
instructed Sikes to shift the car into neutral, apply the brakes and the
parking brake. The trooper said after the incident that he could smell the
Prius's brakes burning, even at that high speed.
After applying both brakes and repeatedly pushing the Prius's ignition
switch -- it has a button, not a keyed ignition -- Sikes was able to cut
power to the runaway car and roll to a stop on the side of the interstate.
Pressing and holding a Prius's ignition button for a few seconds should turn
off the car.
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While it is possible to floor the gas and the brake with both feet, it sure
isn't easy.
>
La Cosa Nostradamus
The guy looks away, etc.
I agree with you. This guy's whole story is weak.
I sense that he is afraid of his car and wants to cashout/in
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Deadmoney Walking
He sounded beleivable on the news. Said that he couldn't shut it off
in his first few attempts because of whatever ignition goes for the
Prius.
Same for the shift. Very believable since it doesn't have a
mechanical gear shift AFAIKT
If it was fraud, I don't know why he wouldn't hit something. Right
now he has a pure emotional distress claim, the dumbest of the dumb.
Bryan Kimmes
> Same for the shift. Very believable since it doesn't have a
> mechanical gear shift AFAIKT
As Far As I Know (Troll)?
susan
ignition you locked the steering wheel.
Arlo-Payne
It can not be turned off or gear shifted when this happens.
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Schmedley
> I don't know a lot about cars, but I always thought that if you shut off the
> ignition you locked the steering wheel.
The wheel will lock if you turn the key all the way, so you can remove the
key. If you just shut off the car, the wheel should not loclk. But the
power steering and brakes will shut down, making the car very hard to
handle. Put it in neutral, navigate to the side of the road, then shut it
off.
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Welshman
> On Mar 10 2010 9:07 AM, susan wrote:
>
> > I don't know a lot about cars, but I always thought that if you shut off
the
> > ignition you locked the steering wheel.
>
>
> The wheel will lock if you turn the key all the way, so you can remove the
> key. If you just shut off the car, the wheel should not loclk. But the
> power steering and brakes will shut down, making the car very hard to
> handle. Put it in neutral, navigate to the side of the road, then shut it
> off.
Just stand on the brakes & don't let off. The brakes on most normal cars
will overpower the engine every time.
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susan
nonmous
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> one guy today called 911 asking what to do. had the police watch him
> going fast. cop told him to put it in neutral but he was "afraid i
> would put it in reverse by mistake". probably had time to call his
> lawyer too.
Did he really say those exact words, "afraid I would put it in reverse by
mistake", while going full speed?
If so, what he really needs is a speeding ticket.
I have a Ford Focus with an unintended-acceleration problem, but it's
easily solved by simply putting it in neutral every time it happens.
It's happened dozens of times in the past few years, but never caused any
accidents or anything, because it's easy to just put it in neutral. And,
strangely enough, when I put it in neutral, the engine slows down to idle
speed, and I can then put it back in gear and it works fine. It had
about 150,000 miles on it when I bought it, so it might just be a
malfunction from wear and tear.
nonmous
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> down the road. WTF is emergency going to do besides order up some
> green bags? And this guy was worried it would go into Park or reverse?
> I would think that is the fail safe in the situation - leave the
> drivertain on the road.
Before leaving the drivetrain on the road, I would open the glove
compartment, pull out the manuals, and look up the warranty, to see if the
drivetrain was still covered.
Clave
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> On Mar 9 2010 10:37 PM, BillB wrote:
>
>> "risky biz" <risk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:t0hj67x...@recgroups.com...
>>
>> > Authentic or ginning up a legal settlement?
>>
>> The 911 call sounded very fishy. First thing you are going to do is
>> throw it in neutral or turn off your ignition, not reach for you cell
>> phone and call 911. Also, I didn't like his body language during the
>> CNN story. Plus, I understand his car isn't one of the recalled
>> models. I'm not sayin he's lying, but I'm afraid I'm not buying it.
>
>
> It can not be turned off or gear shifted when this happens.
I heard a Technical Director at Car & Driver on the radio this morning
emphatically saying the exact opposite.
Begins at about 19:20 --
Jim