BAHH: Mark [Diputsur] and I have a disagreement: is this the right move?
Jason Pawloski
To 3 BB" [Dipshit] disagrees. Like the true donks we are, we decided to
let RGP settle this. Did I play this right or not?
Also:
Diputsur: if you post that we were in disagreement over this hand...
Diputsur: make sure you tell em what you bubbled with last game too!
Diputsur: might be playing the este a little too strong...
Diputsur: doyle says AQ is a beginner's hand
Diputsur: you playing AJ like the nuts
It's true, two times before this, while 4-handed, I ate it with AJ.
Thanks for your input.
Full Tilt Poker Game #6066149534: Tier Three $69+$6 Sit & Go (46176150),
Table 1 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:27:18 ET - 2008/04/17
Seat 1: jpawloski (1,625)
Seat 4: rjevskiy (1,870)
Seat 5: guntersville (6,860)
Seat 6: GunzBlazin (1,265)
Seat 7: wtfbbq (1,880)
jpawloski posts the small blind of 60
rjevskiy posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jpawloski [Jh As]
guntersville folds
GunzBlazin folds
wtfbbq raises to 360
jpawloski raises to 1,625, and is all in
rjevskiy folds
wtfbbq calls 1,265
jpawloski shows [Jh As]
wtfbbq shows [Ah Qh]
*** FLOP *** [Ac Qs 6h]
*** TURN *** [Ac Qs 6h] [Ks]
*** RIVER *** [Ac Qs 6h Ks] [3h]
jpawloski shows a pair of Aces
wtfbbq shows two pair, Aces and Queens
wtfbbq wins the pot (3,370) with two pair, Aces and Queens
jpawloski stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,370 | Rake 0
Board: [Ac Qs 6h Ks 3h]
Seat 1: jpawloski (small blind) showed [Jh As] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: rjevskiy (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: guntersville didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: GunzBlazin didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: wtfbbq (button) showed [Ah Qh] and won (3,370) with two pair, Aces
and Queens
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brewmaster
What can you beat, AT, KJ? Would he raise to 3x the BB with AT, KJ, QT,
QJ? I don't think so. He'd push with those hands. I can't see you being
ahead here.
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FellKnight
What does a tier 3 SNG pay to... 4 places? (I assume so given the comment
above about bubbling. If so, pushing AJ is beyond retarded. Ditto if it
pays 3 spots. It really doesn't even matter what you think the guy's
opening range is either.
Fell
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Mark B [Diputsur]
LOLOLOL
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XaQ Morphy
Based on what I heard, your reasons were that you hoped it was a coin flip
and that you figured he had a pair with a small chance of a bigger A and a
small chance of a smaller A.
If this is your thinking, I don't think there's anything more to discuss
other than to ask you why you want to voluntarily get your money in on the
bubble of a SNG with little to no fold equity and as an underdog?
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charrison100
What was your reason behiong the push?
I'm not the elite Donk that you guys are but i would call the bet for just
under 25% of my stack then check the flop and see what he does on the
flop. A small bet and I push. He pushes and I fold.
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Wayne Vinson
Let's see - no first in advantage, and you're probably behind, and he
won't fold.
Yeah, pushing there was brilliant.
Queue "But it was AJ!"
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Ian Stuart
On the face of it I don't like the play at all. AJ is not a hand I would
generally consider worthy of even calling a preflop raise with. However,
if the opponent in question had been playing particularly loose-aggressive
then I might consider taking him on and, given my stack and the blinds, I
would probably want to try and isolate him. Ultimately I cannot say
whether you played this right or not (IMVHO obv) without some idea of how
he had been playing prior to this hand. However, as you made no mention of
him being a LAG and adding the fact that you apparently have a propensity
for busting out with AJ it would seem reasonable to conclude that you
grossly over-value that hand.
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brewmaster
I was playing a live tourney at Pechanga the other day (like, $50 buy in),
and heard a guy at the table next to mine say "Why does AJ always break
your heart?" and I looked up and said to my table "cause it is a crap
hand?".
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Bryan Kimmes
I bet wtfbbq assumed he was about to pay off AK.
Bryan
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Jason Pawloski
In my defense, my other plays with AJ were probably justified. The
first time I had about 2000 chips with blinds at 150/300 and I had
first in vigorish, and got called by the BB who had AK. The second
time I was so pitifully short stacked thanks to an AK on KK encounter
that I would have probably pushed with just about any two cards.
Pepe Papon
I would have to call that a bad play.. I don't mind going all in
w/AJ, but not after a raise. Only think about doing that if you're
desperate, and you're not desperate in this situation. Still plenty
of time to wait for a better spot.
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