OT: As Terri dies
Paul G.
mucous membranes dry out. Vomiting follows, as the stomach lining dries out.
Blood pressure drops, the heart rate rises, and physical extremities become
cold, as circulation is redirected to internal organs to maintain their
function.
KingOfHearts
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Let's hope she dies soon.........this is getting really stupid.
All of these religious freaks need to shut up.
Scooby
-- Bush, AKA the man who sentenced more people to death during his time
as Governor than any before him.
KingOfHearts
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> "We must always err on the side of life"
>
>
> -- Bush, AKA the man who sentenced more people to death during his time
>
> as Governor than any before him.
>
LOL............that is so, so true.............!
Susan
my mother die because he withdrew food and water. It was peaceful. She
simply went to sleep and never woke up. And she had many more functions
that Terry. How about posting some legitimate sites for the other
assertions you have been making?
Also, you never responded to my earlier question - would YOU, Paul Gennaro,
want to be kept alive in her condition for over 15 years knowing the
financial and emotional toll it was taking on your family, friends and loved
ones?
Susan
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she is comatose. her brain will not register the pain associated with these
symptoms.
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an interesting thing to 'hope' for.
> All of these religious freaks need to shut up.
let me guess, you tolerate transsexuals --- but those 'religious
freaks'......
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> -- Bush, AKA the man who sentenced more people to death during his time
> as Governor than any before him.
not sure if you realize this, but sentencing isn't controlled or
postulated by governors.
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<harry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>let me guess, you tolerate transsexuals --- but those 'religious
>freaks'......
>
>mo_charles
I most certainly do not tolerate transsexual religious freaks!
"PB is not Peg."
Scooby
the stay.
FellKnight
Not that I understand US politics... but how do Governors sentence people
to death? I thought that was the judge/jury's job?
Fell
DP75089
Actually, no...it's bullshit. It's just that you and the moron who posted
don't know your asses from your hats. Governors (not just in TX, but any
state) don't sentence anyone. Juries do that. In TX, the Governor is
empowered only to sign the order when the time comes or to order a stay,
but only with the express written recommendation of the review board.
So, no...G.W. Bush never sentenced anyone to death while Gov. of TX.
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> if this is intended to bring attention to terri's 'suffering' its a moot
point.
> she is comatose.
Uhm, no...she's not.
Bill Starr
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Fuck you and your hero George Bush.
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> On Mar 23 2005 2:02 PM, smellmuth wrote:
>
>> if this is intended to bring attention to terri's 'suffering' its a moot
> point.
>> she is comatose.
>
> Uhm, no...she's not.
>
>
Umm....yes she is you fucking idiot.
Read up on the story and you will realize this.
She is fucking BRAIN DEAD..............let it sink into your stupid fucking
head.
Brian
King, if you are going to assert yourself in such a strong manner, the least you
could do is make sure you're right. Braindead and comatose are not the same
thing.
On Mar 23 2005 2:26 PM, KingOfHearts wrote:
> "DP75089" wrote in message
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stay of execution during his time as governor.
It's no mistake that during his time as Governor there were more
state-sanctioned murders than at any other time. Barbarism.
Von Fourche
The republicans are just making this girl their political bitch.
Typical conservatives. Yeah, go ahead and believe in their cause. Typical
conservative followers.
SweetBitches
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to say that the pain which would normally be associated with the symptoms listed
by the OP will not be experienced by someone in Terri's state. Ergo, the
'inhumanity' sympathy he is trying to illicit is misguided.
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>
>
> King, if you are going to assert yourself in such a strong manner, the
> least you
> could do is make sure you're right. Braindead and comatose are not the
> same
> thing.
Brian, that is my point. He was claiming that she is not comatose in a
sense that she is still alive and responsive, I am saying that she is
Braindead and not responsive. The top surgeons and brain doctors in the
world have studied the data and said she is completely braindead and does
not recognize anyone or anything that comes into her view.
Peter Lizak
Why does she have to starve to death, while Scott Peterson gets to die
painlessly and quickly?
/painlessly for her? maybe
// painlessly for her family (husband included), no way!
> http://www.terrisfight.net/
>
>
>
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Susan
newborn grandson does the same face when he takes a shit. She is
NONresponsive.
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Susan
and totally disagree with keeping her alive.
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punishment. Amerika is the only western country still to utilise it,
don't you know?
King of the Off Deuce
wrote:
>my
>newborn grandson does the same face when he takes a shit.
Maybe he REALLY likes taking a shit.
"PB is not Peg."
Susan
Crimes against children are, IMO, worthy of any kind of torture we can dish
out.
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tyslothrop
time.
On Mar 23 2005 2:41 PM, Susan wrote:
> I take offense at this - I am a typical conservative republican (your words)
> and totally disagree with keeping her alive.
>
>
> "Von Fourche" wrote in message
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> >
> > "Paul G." wrote in message
> > news:RLj0e.5291$4Y....@twister.socal.rr.com...
> >> Beyond hunger pangs, the skin, lips, and tongue crack. The nose bleeds,
> >> as
> >> mucous membranes dry out. Vomiting follows, as the stomach lining dries
> > out.
> >> Blood pressure drops, the heart rate rises, and physical extremities
> > become
> >> cold, as circulation is redirected to internal organs to maintain their
> >> function.
> >>
> >> http://www.terrisfight.net/
> >>
> >>
> >
> > The republicans are just making this girl their political bitch.
> > Typical conservatives. Yeah, go ahead and believe in their cause.
> > Typical
> > conservative followers.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Susan
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luckytopher
Religious Right - this is nothing more than crass manipulation of the situation
for political gain. Sad and pathetic... but nothing is beneath these guys, it
seems. Funny - GWB signed a bill while Texas governor that allowed
non-responsive patients to be terminated in cases in which their families
couldn't afford to pay their hospital bills, in direct opposition to the
family's wishes. And now... he's INTERRUPTING HIS VACATION FOR TERRI? The same
guy who wouldn't interrupt his vacation when nearly 200,000 died in the tsunami?
Fucking hypocrites.
Gary Carson
She has no hunger pains, she has no awareness. She's been dead for 15 years,
the sad part of all this is all the right wing nutcases who keep encouraging her
parents to avoid reality at all costs.
Gary Carson
On Mar 23 2005 1:50 PM, Paul G. wrote:
> Beyond hunger pangs, the skin, lips, and tongue crack. The nose bleeds, as
> mucous membranes dry out. Vomiting follows, as the stomach lining dries out.
> Blood pressure drops, the heart rate rises, and physical extremities become
> cold, as circulation is redirected to internal organs to maintain their
> function.
>
> http://www.terrisfight.net/
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him in office.
DP75089
> Not that I understand US politics... but how do Governors sentence people
> to death? I thought that was the judge/jury's job?
Correct. This is just one of those pernicious little bits of bullshit the
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> the stay.
the power of stay is a way for the governor to OVERTURN a decision made by
the state's citizens ~ ie. it's legislature and it's courts :: not a good
political move for an elected official --- is it?
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wrote:
>tell me how you feel if your daughter is raped, tortured and murdered.
>Crimes against children are, IMO, worthy of any kind of torture we can dish
>out.
>
Stupid question. That's why we don't let family members sit on the
jury.
Thumper
>
>"Scooby" <scooby...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Only an uncivilised society would stoop so low as to use capitial
>> punishment. Amerika is the only western country still to utilise it,
>> don't you know?
>>
>
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David Spence Texas Conviction 1984 Executed 1997
Spence was charged with murdering three teenagers in 1982. He was
allegedly hired by a convenience store owner to kill another girl, and
killed these victims by mistake. The convenience store owner, Muneer
Deeb, was originally convicted and sentenced to death, but then was
acquitted at a re-trial. The police lieutenant who supervised the
investigation of Spence, Marvin Horton, later concluded: "I do not
think David Spence committed this crime." Ramon Salinas, the homicide
detective who actually conducted the investigation, said: "My opinion
is that David Spence was innocent. Nothing from the investigation ever
led us to any evidence that he was involved." No physical evidence
connected Spence to the crime. The case against Spence was pursued by a
zealous narcotics cop who relied on testimony of prison inmates who
were granted favors in return for testimony.
Gary Graham Texas Convicted 1981 Executed 2000
On June 23, 2000, Gary Graham was executed in Texas, despite claims
that he was innocent. Graham was 17 when he was charged with the 1981
robbery and shooting of Bobby Lambert outside a Houston supermarket. He
was convicted primarily on the testimony of one witness, Bernadine
Skillern, who said she saw the killer's face for a few seconds through
her car windshield, from a distance of 30 -40 feet away. Two other
witnesses, both who worked at the grocery store and said they got a
good look at the assailant, said Graham was not the killer but were
never interviewed by Graham's court appointed attorney, Ronald Mock,
and were not called to testify at trial. Three of the jurors who voted
to convict Graham signed affidavits saying they would have voted
differently had all of the evidence been available.
Peter Lizak
> He's at the beck and call of the religious right, after all, they put
> him in office.
Why would he be at their beck adn call, he can't be reelected again.....
unless he changes the constitution.
Thumper
wrote:
>On Mar 23 2005 2:02 PM, smellmuth wrote:
>
>> if this is intended to bring attention to terri's 'suffering' its a moot
>point.
>> she is comatose.
>
>Uhm, no...she's not.
>
Doesn't matter. Neurologists say that she has no feeling of hunger
pains or thirst. She only has a brain stem.
Thumper
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<harry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Let's hope she dies soon.
>
>an interesting thing to 'hope' for.
>
>> All of these religious freaks need to shut up.
>
>let me guess, you tolerate transsexuals --- but those 'religious
>freaks'......
>
Transsexuals don't intrude in other's business.
Thumper
>mo_charles
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wrote:
>I take offense at this - I am a typical conservative republican (your words)
>and totally disagree with keeping her alive.
>
Then tell your fellow conservatives.
thumper
>
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>>
>> "Paul G." <nofrigge...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>> news:RLj0e.5291$4Y....@twister.socal.rr.com...
>>> Beyond hunger pangs, the skin, lips, and tongue crack. The nose bleeds,
>>> as
>>> mucous membranes dry out. Vomiting follows, as the stomach lining dries
>> out.
>>> Blood pressure drops, the heart rate rises, and physical extremities
>> become
>>> cold, as circulation is redirected to internal organs to maintain their
>>> function.
>>>
>>> http://www.terrisfight.net/
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The republicans are just making this girl their political bitch.
>> Typical conservatives. Yeah, go ahead and believe in their cause.
>> Typical
>> conservative followers.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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"Paul G." <nofrigge...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> Beyond hunger pangs, the skin, lips, and tongue crack. The nose bleeds, as
> mucous membranes dry out. Vomiting follows, as the stomach lining dries
> out. Blood pressure drops, the heart rate rises, and physical extremities
> become cold, as circulation is redirected to internal organs to maintain
> their function.
>
> http://www.terrisfight.net/
>
You are being intellectually dishonest here. If you want to defend her right
to be sustained on religious or other grounds, fine, but do not pretend that
she will suffer from dying in this way.
(Admittedly I have read almost nothing on this case so I could be wrong
about the medical facts.)
Susan
other around espousing the same rhetoric over and over.
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<pli...@cs.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>Why does she have to starve to death, while Scott Peterson gets to die
>painlessly and quickly?
>
>
>/painlessly for her? maybe
>// painlessly for her family (husband included), no way!
That's the part that's really, really bothering me. I'll accept the
doctors' and judges' decisions that she's nonresponsive and should be
allowed to die; but putting her family through this when a lethal
injection would do it quickly is just plain barbaric. Now that they've
taken the responsibility to kill her, just fucking do it.
Peg
DP75089
> Bush set the tone and fast-tracked the proceedings;
What the fuck are you babbling about? Governors doesn't set any "tone"
for juries, nor can they "fast-track" any proceedings. Didn't your mother
ever teach you that when you don't know what the hell you're talking about
you just keep your mouth shut?
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> Bush set the tone and fast-tracked the proceedings; he never issued a
> stay of execution during his time as governor.
>
> It's no mistake that during his time as Governor there were more
> state-sanctioned murders than at any other time. Barbarism.
Jesus H... did Bush write the laws allowing for capital punishment too?
If you have a problem with the law, then lobby to have it changed.
Blaming a governor for not issuing a stay of execution, which, as I
understand, is an *extreme* measure, is horseshit.
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> Only an uncivilised society would stoop so low as to use capitial
> punishment.
Only a complete moron insists on running his mouth on subjects he doesn't
know anything about.
DP75089
> Fuck you and your hero George Bush.
That's pretty much the intelligent, well thought-out response I was
anticipating.
Peg Smith
wrote:
>Also, you never responded to my earlier question - would YOU, Paul Gennaro,
>want to be kept alive in her condition for over 15 years knowing the
>financial and emotional toll it was taking on your family, friends and loved
>ones?
Susan, what Paul (or you or I) would wish shouldn't be projected onto
anybody else.
Peg
Scooby
woman's right to choose with capital punishment. Seek help.
Welshman
On Mar 23 2005 1:04 PM, Peg Smith wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:33:18 -0500, Peter Lizak
> wrote:
>
> >Why does she have to starve to death, while Scott Peterson gets to die
> >painlessly and quickly?
> >
> >
> >/painlessly for her? maybe
> >// painlessly for her family (husband included), no way!
>
> That's the part that's really, really bothering me. I'll accept the
> doctors' and judges' decisions that she's nonresponsive and should be
> allowed to die; but putting her family through this when a lethal
> injection would do it quickly is just plain barbaric. Now that they've
> taken the responsibility to kill her, just fucking do it.
>
> Peg
Probably the most sensible statement made in this thread Peg.
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> The Governor, ultimatly, controls who lives and dies via the power of
> the stay.
Wrong, helium-head. As I already indicated (try reading BEFORE posting,
then you won't look like such an idiot), in Texas the Governor does not
have the authority to issue stays purely at his own discretion. He must
first have a written recommendation of such from a review board. That
never happened during Bush's Gubernatorial admin. But you just keep
spouting your ignorance if it makes you feel better.
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mo_charles
> Thumper
any more sweeping generalizations you'd like to make?
mo_charles
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> to be sustained on religious or other grounds, fine, but do not pretend that
> she will suffer from dying in this way.
>
> (Admittedly I have read almost nothing on this case so I could be wrong
> about the medical facts.)
LMAO!
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> Umm....yes she is you fucking idiot.
> Read up on the story and you will realize this.
> She is fucking BRAIN DEAD..............let it sink into your stupid fucking
> head.
This from the moron who thinks that Governors hand down sentences in jury
trials.
And you're wrong on this one too. She is neither comatose nor brain dead
(though that latter term clearly applies to you):
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35270
Von Fourche
"Susan" <sdbr...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> at least we conservatives can disagree with one another and not follow
each
> other around espousing the same rhetoric over and over.
What? All conservatives do is follow each other around spitting out the
same backwards rhetoric.
Susan
our political affiliations earlier.
show me one time I "spit out the same backwards rhetoric."
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impossible to believe, that anyone would want to be kept alive when they
were in her state.
Susan
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DP75089
> Then why don't you stop?
Because, of the two of us, I'm the only one who knows what the hell he's
talking about.
Scooby
tyslothrop
hey guess what, another thousand horrible things all over the world just
happened in the time this thread started. But by all means, let's focus 24 news
coverage on this, the michael jackson trial, lacy peterson and martha stewart.
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> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:14:49 -0800, "DP75089" <a1...@webnntp.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >On Mar 23 2005 2:02 PM, smellmuth wrote:
> >
> >> if this is intended to bring attention to terri's 'suffering' its a moot
> >point.
> >> she is comatose.
> >
> >Uhm, no...she's not.
> >
> Doesn't matter. Neurologists say that she has no feeling of hunger
> pains or thirst. She only has a brain stem.
Care to provide a link to an authoritative source for that? And no, a
blog doesn't count.
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Texas Governor George W. Bush, the Republican presidential candidate,
refused to stop the execution of Mexican national Miguel Flores,
despite international protests from Mexico and human rights
organizations. Flores, 31, was pronounced dead at 6:22 p.m. Thursday
following the administration of lethal chemicals at the Walls Unit in
Huntsville, Texas.
Susan
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Schiavo/story?id=600523&page=1
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Stephen M. Adams
>The Governor, ultimatly, controls who lives and dies via the power of
>the stay.
In Texas the governor has severely limited powers to stay an
execution. The governor is empowered to issue a one-time 30-day
stay of execution, but beyond that, any pardon, commutation or
clemency first must be recommended by the Board of Pardons and
Paroles.
And the Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles is not very sympathetic.
-Stephen
--
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mo_charles
> happened in the time this thread started. But by all means, let's focus 24
news
> coverage on this, the michael jackson trial, lacy peterson and martha
stewart.
news shows hyperbolates this kind of marginal event --- circumstances like
these are incredibly uncommon, and more likely than not, irrelevant to the
average person's life :: the problem? americans like the sensationalistic
smut they get served :: we love those shitbag action movies :: we revel in
michael jackson's freakish appearance and personal problems :: we chant
'jerry, jerry, jerry....!" when underprivs with no moral compass punch
eachother over scumbag cheating boyfriends :: we like name calling --- we
like fighting --- we like watching shit. when american's develop
moderately discriminating taste, maybe we'll start seeing --- learning ---
listening to things that actually matter. i'm afraid it's a LONG ways
off..........
mo_charles
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to kill your unborn, but find it barbaric to see an execution carried out on a
murderer.
On Mar 23 2005 3:10 PM, Scooby wrote:
> Let me guess, you are a right-wing fruitcake who equates abortion and a
> woman's right to choose with capital punishment. Seek help.
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and a woman's right to choose with capital punishment.
To make it easier for you, unborn is the key word here. You can't kill
what doesn't yet exist.
KingOfHearts
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LOL.........fucking loser.
KingOfHearts
> On Mar 23 2005 3:15 PM, Scooby wrote:
>
>> Then why don't you stop?
>
>
You know nothing you piece of shit.
Go back to praying over your bible.
lex
cooby" <scooby...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Only an uncivilised society would stoop so low as to use capitial
>punishment. Amerika is the only western country still to utilise it,
>don't you know?
FellKnight
Strange... I don't see anything about the review board's recommendation to
stay the execution in your story.
Fell
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> http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?scid=6&did=111#executed
>
> David Spence Texas Conviction 1984 Executed 1997
> Spence was charged with murdering three teenagers in 1982. He was
> allegedly hired by a convenience store owner to kill another girl, and
> killed these victims by mistake. The convenience store owner, Muneer
> Deeb, was originally convicted and sentenced to death, but then was
> acquitted at a re-trial. The police lieutenant who supervised the
> investigation of Spence, Marvin Horton, later concluded: "I do not
> think David Spence committed this crime." Ramon Salinas, the homicide
> detective who actually conducted the investigation, said: "My opinion
> is that David Spence was innocent. Nothing from the investigation ever
> led us to any evidence that he was involved." No physical evidence
> connected Spence to the crime. The case against Spence was pursued by a
> zealous narcotics cop who relied on testimony of prison inmates who
> were granted favors in return for testimony.
Good Info....
Scooby
'sources'. So sad.
KingOfHearts
> On Mar 23 2005 2:16 PM, Scooby wrote:
>
>> The Governor, ultimatly, controls who lives and dies via the power of
>> the stay.
>
> then you won't look like such an idiot), in Texas the Governor does not
> have the authority to issue stays purely at his own discretion. He must
> first have a written recommendation of such from a review board. That
> never happened during Bush's Gubernatorial admin. But you just keep
> spouting your ignorance if it makes you feel better.
>
>
You really are stupid, showing once again you don't know what the hell you
are talking about.
Scooby
If he refuses to stop, he has the option to stop.
KingOfHearts
> On Mar 23 2005 2:26 PM, KingOfHearts wrote:
>
>> Umm....yes she is you fucking idiot.
>> Read up on the story and you will realize this.
>> She is fucking BRAIN DEAD..............let it sink into your stupid
>> fucking
>> head.
>
> This from the moron who thinks that Governors hand down sentences in jury
> trials.
>
> And you're wrong on this one too. She is neither comatose nor brain dead
> (though that latter term clearly applies to you):
>
> http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35270
>
>
KingOfHearts
"DP75089" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> On Mar 23 2005 2:57 PM, Thumper wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:14:49 -0800, "DP75089" <a1...@webnntp.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Mar 23 2005 2:02 PM, smellmuth wrote:
>> >
>> >> if this is intended to bring attention to terri's 'suffering' its a
>> >> moot
>> >point.
>> >> she is comatose.
>> >
>> >Uhm, no...she's not.
>> >
>> Doesn't matter. Neurologists say that she has no feeling of hunger
>> pains or thirst. She only has a brain stem.
>
> Care to provide a link to an authoritative source for that? And no, a
> blog doesn't count.
>
It was on NBC nightly news 2 nights ago.....
lex
responses which measn she has brain activity seperate from the brain
stem function.goddamn youre a stupid fuck
>
>"DP75089" <a1...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>news:pav8h2x...@recgroups.com...
>> On Mar 23 2005 2:02 PM, smellmuth wrote:
>>
>>> if this is intended to bring attention to terri's 'suffering' its a moot
>> point.
>>> she is comatose.
>>
>> Uhm, no...she's not.
>>
>>
>
Gary Carson
If I remember correctly the issue in that one was that he had been refused
counsel from the Mexican consulate that he'd requested. Mexico has a treaty
with the US that requires he be provided counsel from the Mexican consulate
before being interrogated and Bush took the position that the Republic of Texas
hadn't signed the treaty.
Mexico pretty much has a standing offer to house any Mexican national sentenced
to death in the US in their prisons for a life without parole sentence. Mexico
does not have the death penalty.
Gary Carson
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MarkGreb
struggle with similar decisions regarding family members who have fallen ill.
I usually ask them to answer "Who's to decide when life is truly over.....Over?
Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the
Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! "
Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?
On Mar 23 2005 2:50 PM, Paul G. wrote:
> Beyond hunger pangs, the skin, lips, and tongue crack. The nose bleeds, as
> mucous membranes dry out. Vomiting follows, as the stomach lining dries out.
> Blood pressure drops, the heart rate rises, and physical extremities become
> cold, as circulation is redirected to internal organs to maintain their
> function.
>
> <a href="http://www.terrisfight.net/" target="_blank">http://www.terrisfight.net/</a>
SweetBitches
Just because something isn't out and breathing on its own does not mean it
doesn't exist, or at least has the potential to exist, if it were given the
natural course of events. Whether or not it is technically alive at the time is
irrelevant. By aborting it you are denying its right to live, and therefore it
is no different than killing it. You all talk about a womans right to chose but
never a womans responsibility to finish what she started.
So yes, I will equate it to capital punishment because it is basically the same
thing. The difference is, people on death row did something to deserve their
fate.
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> > Transsexuals don't intrude in other's business.
> > Thumper
>
> any more sweeping generalizations you'd like to make?
>
> mo_charles
How many times in your life have you been bothered by a transsexual? How
many by a religious fanatic? I think all of us will have a much higher
number to the latter question.
Hell, the other day I was at the gym and this guy I play ball with decides
that it would be a good time to hand me brochures about Christ while I'm
naked and about to jump in the shower. "Give these a read through,
they're sure to help you out." What the hell does that mean. I don't
hand anyone any brochures in regard to my personal beliefs. Also, is this
guy incredibly nice to me because he wants to spread the word of the lord,
or is he just a nice guy? Now I can't ever trust his intentions either.
Anyway, I lost the topic somewhere in there...
TLira
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> at least we conservatives can disagree with one another and not follow
each
> other around espousing the same rhetoric over and over.
I thought it was the other way around really. But in this case, stupid
congresscritters from both sides of the aisle voted for the bill.
Rich
FellKnight
> Er, because you don't have to. It's quite clear: 'refused to stop'.
> If he refuses to stop, he has the option to stop.
Ah, so it comes to semantics? Tell you what... google that case and tell
us if you come up with anything showing *conclusively* that Bush actaully
had a recommendation from the review board to stay the execution. Don't
argue semantics.
Fell
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SweetBitches wrote:
> So yes, I will equate it to capital punishment because it is
basically the same
> thing.
No, it's not and it's quite pointless to argue the point with someone
who clings desperatly to faith-based science.
Scooby
TLira
> On Mar 23 2005 1:58 PM, KingOfHearts wrote:
>
> > "Scooby" <scooby...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1111607853.6...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> > > "We must always err on the side of life"
> > >
> > >
> > > -- Bush, AKA the man who sentenced more people to death during his time
> > >
> > > as Governor than any before him.
> > >
> >
> >
> > LOL............that is so, so true.............!
>
>
> Actually, no...it's bullshit. It's just that you and the moron who posted
> don't know your asses from your hats. Governors (not just in TX, but any
> state) don't sentence anyone. Juries do that. In TX, the Governor is
> empowered only to sign the order when the time comes or to order a stay,
> but only with the express written recommendation of the review board.
>
> So, no...G.W. Bush never sentenced anyone to death while Gov. of TX.
So, what percentage did he stay? He 'allowed' more people to be put to
death than any other governor as far as I know. But I am not an expert on
this issue.
Susan
"SweetBitches" <dan6...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
>You all talk about a womans right to chose but
> never a womans responsibility to finish what she >started.
But what about when she DIDN'T start it?
OrangeSFO
Paul G. wrote:
> Beyond hunger pangs, the skin, lips, and tongue crack. The nose
bleeds, as
> mucous membranes dry out. Vomiting follows, as the stomach lining
dries out.
> Blood pressure drops, the heart rate rises, and physical extremities
become
> cold, as circulation is redirected to internal organs to maintain
their
> function.
>
As Jon Stewart pointed out while listening to a parade of congressman
stand up in the well intoning "Terri...Terri...Terri":
"Did you hear that? They called her "Terri."
"Can you imagine what they'd call her if they actually knew her? Or
spent any time with her, or even SEEN her in person??"
OrangeSFO
DP75089
sentences.
Fucking moron.
On Mar 23 2005 3:48 PM, Scooby wrote:
> He is, isn't he? I can't believe he uses worldnetdaily as his
> 'sources'. So sad.
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mo_charles
> many by a religious fanatic? I think all of us will have a much higher
> number to the latter question.
true.
> Hell, the other day I was at the gym and this guy I play ball with decides
> that it would be a good time to hand me brochures about Christ while I'm
> naked and about to jump in the shower. "Give these a read through,
> they're sure to help you out." What the hell does that mean.
lol. nice time for that --- 'comfortable'.
> I don't hand anyone any brochures in regard to my personal beliefs. Also,
is this
> guy incredibly nice to me because he wants to spread the word of the lord,
> or is he just a nice guy? Now I can't ever trust his intentions either.
the idea that the average religious person is somehow more intrusive or
annoying than the average transsexual is a little misleading :: most
religious people i know are very nice, very productive, and very
respectful --- most are not evangelicals --- most don't feel the need to
'save souls' :: this is my only point.
mo_charles
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