THE "UNDEFEATED' MONKIES START AGAIN ..
K9way
After what happened to NE .. no organization is going to be foolish enough
to go 'all-out" in the final games that they dont need .
Check your history morons ... aint gonna happen !!!
Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"
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phlash74
What happened to NE? You mean when Peyton Manning's little sister
threw a wounded duck that David Tyree somehow trapped against his
helmet? It's absolutely ridiculous to suggest that the Pats' going
16-0 caused them to lose that SB when they were less than 2 minutes
and one miracle away from finishing 19-0.
Neither Indy or Nawlins has a tough game left on their schedule. While
it is highly unlikely that both will go 16-0, I won't be surprised if
one does. Besides, the Saints currently only lead the Vikings by one
game for home field, and would lose the tiebreaker if they lost one
while Minnesota won out. Until home field advantage is locked up, I
don't see either of these teams letting up.
Michael
Alim Nassor
Saints do still have the Cowboys to play. 8-3 aint chopped liver
K9way
> Neither Indy or Nawlins has a tough game left on their schedule. While
> it is highly unlikely that both will go 16-0,
this statement means that you agree with me , and yet you do not even
realize it
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>> Neither Indy or Nawlins has a tough game left on their schedule. While
>> it is highly unlikely that both will go 16-0,
>
> this statement means that you agree with me , and yet you do not even
> realize it
Everyone agrees with you because you've simply made an incredibly obvious
observation that it's unlikely that an NFL team will go undefeated through
the Superbowl. Who doesn't realize that simple truth?
But it will happen at some point because it's just unlikely, not impossible.
Might even happen this year, although it's really unlikely.
phlash74
Bullshit. I don't agree with Doggy at all. First of all, he's talking
about 16-0, not 19-0. Already been done. His specious claim is that the
Colts and Saints will look at how NE lost the SB to the Giants and use
that as a reason to not go 16-0. Only an idiot thinks the reason the Pats
lost that SB is that they wore themselves out going 16-0. Never forget,
Doggy was on here for the last 5 weeks of that regular season claiming
there was great value in taking the Pats' opponents on the M/L, then when
they finished 16-0, claimed that he made a lot of $$ taking the points (I
think NE covered maybe one of the last five spreads, although every week
they were double-digit favorites).
His other claim, which has more merit to it, is that the Colts and Saints
won't overexert themselves trying to win meaningless games. However, he
completely overlooks that if Minnesota wins out to finish 15-1, the Saints
HAVE TO go 16-0 to clinch homefield advantage in the playoffs; otherwise,
if they tie at 15-1, Minnesota would have HFA based on conference record
since their loss was to Pittsburgh and New Orleans would have a loss
against an NFC opponent (their final five are all in conference). I'm not
saying that Minnesota will go 15-1, but unless and until they do lose a
game, the Saints have no breathing room and no reason to let up. OTOH,
Indy is likely to clinch HFA in the AFC within two to three weeks.
Here's how the respective schedules shape up:
Indianapolis: vs. Tennessee, vs. Denver, @ Jacksonville (possibly the
likeliest loss, if the Colts are 13-0 and the Bengals lose at Minnesota
while the Chargers lose at Dallas the week before, Indy will have clinched
HFA while the Jags are fighting for a playoff spot), vs. NY Jets, @
Buffalo.
The Colts will be touchdown or more favorites in all those games with the
exception of JAX (where they'll likely be 3 point favorites) and possibly
Buffalo (where they may announce they're resting starters early, although
Peyton likely will play a couple series which may be enough to put the
Bills to sleep).
New Orleans: @Washington, @Atlanta, vs. Dallas, vs. Tampa Bay, @Carolina.
Only the Atlanta game will probably find NO favored by less than a TD, and
that's IF Michael Turner and Matt Ryan are OK. Or do you really like
Chris Redman's chances of trading scores with Drew Brees? The Dallas game
is a lot easier than it looks, at home against a QB who has a history of
melting down late in the season. Carolina might be tough, except that
they will almost certainly be out of the playoff picture before then.
Doggy's a complete moron. I'd say it's about 2-1 against that one of the
two teams goes 16-0 (NOT 19-0). It's probably about 30-1 against that
they both do, since the Colts are unlikely to have much incentive to do
so, but if they do get to 14-0, I doubt either the Jets or Bills knock
them off unless Peyton doesn't play at all or maybe only one series which
is possible. I think the Saints will win every game until Minnesota loses
one, giving them room for error.
Michael
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K9way
> two teams goes 16-0 (NOT 19-0). It's probably about 30-1 against that
> they both do, >
I was going to spend some time and respond to things in this post .
Fortunately , I scanned down and read this line
The above line is one of the silliest things i have ever read here ,
involviing the math in gambling
SO LEMME GET THIS STRAIGHT >. Two teams are a 2-1 dog for one of em to go
16-0 .. BUT 30-1 for BOTH ??
i wanna see you get just one person to agree with that .. Even your mother
would laugh at that .
It is 2-1 for one of 2 teams to go undefeated , both 30-1 for both ?
Good God ..this shit is hopeless
Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"
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phlash74
I'll explain quickly, so try to keep up, mmmkay?
I estimated the Colts' and Saints' chances to win each of the games on
their respective remaining schedules, treating each game as an
independent event. Doing that, I came up with NO having a 20% chance
to run the table, while I put Indy's chances at 15%.
(Note: You can use any two numbers you like, it'll change the result
but not the math involved.)
Using those numbers, the probability NEITHER team wins out is .8 * .85
= .68; IOW, it's 68-32 or just over 2-1 against either team going
16-0.
OTOH, the probability BOTH teams win out is .2 * .15 = 0.03, so it's
97-3 or ~32-1 against that result.
Michael
K9way
wow.. you actually believe this ?
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K9way
to go undefeated .. then the only way the price is over 7 or 8 -1 for both
to do it , would be if they played each other .
the price is higher than 2-1 for one of em to do it and lower than 30-1
for both to do it
YOU ARE WRONG ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS
completely absurd
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ramashiva
> if you assume the premise that it is , in fact 2-1 for one of the 2 teams
> to go undefeated .. then the only way the price is over 7 or 8 -1 for both
> to do it , would be if they played each other .
> the price is higher than 2-1 for one of em to do it and lower than 30-1
> for both to do it
> YOU ARE WRONG ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS
This is absolutely the funniest thread I have ever read.
William Coleman (ramashiva)