yet another moron
Beldin the Sorcerer
7 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 3:50:48 ET - 2010/01/03
Seat 1: uraura (1,465)
Seat 2: laduc (2,430)
Seat 3: ugly oldbasterd (7,000)
Seat 4: MPREDROCK (3,060)
Seat 5: Phoenix Gecko (2,900)
Seat 6: The_Sorcerer (3,155)
Seat 7: PayOffWizardFTW (5,500)
Seat 8: Harsea21 (4,985)
Seat 9: theman3603 (2,800)
Phoenix Gecko posts the small blind of 40
The_Sorcerer posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to The_Sorcerer [Th Qc]
PayOffWizardFTW folds
Harsea21 folds
theman3603 folds
uraura folds
laduc raises to 240
ugly oldbasterd folds
MPREDROCK folds
Phoenix Gecko folds
The_Sorcerer calls 160
*** FLOP *** [Td 8c Qd]
The_Sorcerer checks
laduc bets 320
The_Sorcerer raises to 2,915, and is all in
laduc calls 1,870, and is all in
The_Sorcerer shows [Th Qc]
laduc shows [Qh Ks]
Uncalled bet of 725 returned to The_Sorcerer
*** TURN *** [Td 8c Qd] [2h]
*** RIVER *** [Td 8c Qd 2h] [Kc]
The_Sorcerer shows two pair, Queens and Tens
laduc shows two pair, Kings and Queens
laduc wins the pot (4,900) with two pair, Kings and Queens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4,900 | Rake 0
Board: [Td 8c Qd 2h Kc]
Seat 1: uraura didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: laduc showed [Qh Ks] and won (4,900) with two pair, Kings and Queens
Seat 3: ugly oldbasterd didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: MPREDROCK (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Phoenix Gecko (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: The_Sorcerer (big blind) showed [Th Qc] and lost with two pair,
Queens and Tens
Seat 7: PayOffWizardFTW didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: Harsea21 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: theman3603 didn't bet (folded)
Raider Fan
Yep.
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lawh...@hiwaay.net
wrote:
Beldin:
You got sucked out by a luck box who hit a three-outer. Big deal.
This is just another routine Full Tilt cooler. I get clobbered by
players sucking out on me all the time. The most recent one I recall
was a hand where I had pocket Queens (all-in) and was called by a
player with pocket 4's who just hapenned to have me out-chipped by
better than 3 to 1. Of course, he hit a [2-outer] 4 on the flop and
I'm out of the tournament. It happens - not a damn thing you can do
about it.
Alan C. Lawhon
Huntsville, Alabama
Beldin the Sorcerer
<lawh...@HiWAAY.net> wrote in message
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Beldin:
***
It's not that he sucked out on me.
It's the stupidity of his call
I check raise all in, and he thinks top pair, good kicker is good?
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Raider Fan" <raidersgo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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in your stack, quit the game now
lawh...@hiwaay.net
wrote:
> <lawho...@HiWAAY.net> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
These are low buy-in online tournaments - not the Main Event at the
WSOP! What the hell do you expect?
Alan C. Lawhon
huntsville, Alabama
Beldin the Sorcerer
<lawh...@HiWAAY.net> wrote in message
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***
basic level two thinking
I expect AQ to probably call there.
I'd expect KK or AA to call there, maybe
Although the checkrase screams at least 2 pair
If I have J9, he's drawing nearly dead
gtech1
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number6
wrote:
> It's not that he sucked out on me.
> It's the stupidity of his call
>
Now that is bullshit .. total bullshit ... One longs for and looks far
and wide for that stupidity ... You want that ... you bitch when they
luck out ... You are indeed complaining about the suck out ... You
should relish the stupidity ... not condemn it ...
All in 2-1 loses 1/3 times ... all in 4-1 favorite loses 1/5 times ...
maybe you should look to lower your variance ...
and not put the tournament on the line so often ...
Beldin the Sorcerer
"gtech1" <duanepr...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> How would you have played the hand if the flop came Q94 rainbow?
>
If he shows no fear of the Q, (Pot or better) I lay it down
Beldin the Sorcerer
"number6" <snum...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> It's not that he sucked out on me.
> It's the stupidity of his call
>
Now that is bullshit .. total bullshit ... One longs for and looks far
and wide for that stupidity ... You want that ... you bitch when they
luck out ... You are indeed complaining about the suck out ... You
should relish the stupidity ... not condemn it ...
***
Hey, shithead.
It's a tournament. If they always fold, I win every one.
That said, show me anywhere where I said I was upset he called.
I said he was a moron (well, both of them)
I didn't say I MINDED them being morons
***
All in 2-1 loses 1/3 times ... all in 4-1 favorite loses 1/5 times ...
maybe you should look to lower your variance ...
and not put the tournament on the line so often ...
***
Yeah, you're a retard.
Out of position, I'm much better off limp-reraising rather than laying
implied odds for someone to make a hand
gtech1
place. If you don't flop QTX or better you're losing. There are no
implied odds that justify the call if this is your line after the flop.
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K9way
> On Jan 3, 7:46�ｿｽam, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
> > You got sucked out by a luck box who hit a three-outer. �ｿｽBig deal.
> > This is just another routine Full Tilt cooler. �ｿｽI get clobbered by
> > players sucking out on me all the time. �ｿｽThe most recent one I recall
> > was a hand where I had pocket Queens (all-in) and was called by a
> > player with pocket 4's who just hapenned to have me out-chipped by
> > better than 3 to 1. �ｿｽOf course, he hit a [2-outer] 4 on the flop and
> > I'm out of the tournament. �ｿｽIt happens - not a damn thing you can do
> > about it.
> >
> > ***
> > It's not that he sucked out on me.
> > It's the stupidity of his call
> >
> > I check raise all in, and he thinks top pair, good kicker is good?- Hide
quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> These are low buy-in online tournaments - not the Main Event at the
> WSOP! What the hell do you expect?
>
> Alan C. Lawhon
> huntsville, Alabama
GOOD POINT .. The winner of the WSOP played WAAAAAAAY worse than that .
Recession .. when IMike's neighbor loses his trailer
Depression .. when IMike loses his trailer
Recovery .. when IMike accepts public assistance funded by Obama
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Dude777
> I check raise all in, and he thinks top pair, good kicker is good?
Well, it was, wasn't it?
John the Savage
This is not a cooler. There is no real reason to get involved here
heads up, out of position with a raiser whilst holding QTo. The blinds
are low, and folding preflop is probably the right play here. There is
just too much chance of being dominated; against any legitimate raising
hand you are just hoping you have live cards. Why play this out of
position when the stacks are so deep?
Beldin would have played his KQ the same as the other guy did. We know,
because he goes broke overplaying hands on the flop all the time, and he
shows us. He lost because both players made two pair, and he had the
worse hand. A classic example of why it doesn't pay to get involved
heads up against a raiser with a hand that is likely to be dominated.
misanthropic whackjob
> On Jan 3 2010 8:50 AM, lawh...@HiWAAY.net wrote:
>
> > On Jan 3, 7:46�am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
> > > You got sucked out by a luck box who hit a three-outer. �Big deal.
> > > This is just another routine Full Tilt cooler. �I get clobbered by
> > > players sucking out on me all the time. �The most recent one I recall
> > > was a hand where I had pocket Queens (all-in) and was called by a
> > > player with pocket 4's who just hapenned to have me out-chipped by
> > > better than 3 to 1. �Of course, he hit a [2-outer] 4 on the flop and
> > > I'm out of the tournament. �It happens - not a damn thing you can do
> > > about it.
> > >
> > > ***
> > > It's not that he sucked out on me.
> > > It's the stupidity of his call
> > >
> > > I check raise all in, and he thinks top pair, good kicker is good?- Hide
> quoted text -
> > >
> > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > These are low buy-in online tournaments - not the Main Event at the
> > WSOP! What the hell do you expect?
> >
> > Alan C. Lawhon
> > huntsville, Alabama
>
> GOOD POINT .. The winner of the WSOP played WAAAAAAAY worse than that .
>
Besides the fact that in the early stages of the WSOP ME you will get this
exact same call.
>
> Recession .. when IMike's neighbor loses his trailer
> Depression .. when IMike loses his trailer
> Recovery .. when IMike accepts public assistance funded by Obama
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Arlo-Payne
What I want to know in the first place is why this person called the raise
with 10 Q in the first place?
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>
> What I want to know in the first place is why this person called the raise
> with 10 Q in the first place?
That's what I said, and Beldin told me I had no business playing poker if
I didn't call that raise. I'm going to keep trying to play poker, but I
won't be making that call.
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Beldin the Sorcerer
"Arlo-Payne" <arlo_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Implied odds were clearly huge
Arlo, this your first poker discussion?
Beldin the Sorcerer
> On Jan 4 2010 8:43 PM, Arlo-Payne wrote:
>
>>
>> What I want to know in the first place is why this person called the
>> raise
>> with 10 Q in the first place?
>
> That's what I said, and Beldin told me I had no business playing poker if
> I didn't call that raise. I'm going to keep trying to play poker, but I
> won't be making that call.
You won't call 2 BB with 35+more behind when your opponent will joyfuilly
stack off when you flop top two??
Damn, Raider, do you really HATE winning that badly?
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Dude777" <dud...@dude.mail.com> wrote in message
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> Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>
>> I check raise all in, and he thinks top pair, good kicker is good?
>
> Well, it was, wasn't it?
It wasn't
Beldin the Sorcerer
"John the Savage" <savag...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Wow, another shithead.
There is EVERY reason to get involved here.
Pot odds, strong implied odds, and an idiot who'll stack off with 3 outs
The blinds
> are low, and folding preflop is probably the right play here. There is
> just too much chance of being dominated; against any legitimate raising
> hand you are just hoping you have live cards. Why play this out of
> position when the stacks are so deep?
BECAUSE the stacks are so deep.
Fucking christ, who let you into this group?
>
> Beldin would have played his KQ the same as the other guy did.
Hell no.
I would NEVER stack off if I got checkraised there
We know,
> because he goes broke overplaying hands on the flop all the time, and he
> shows us.
You're a lying shit for brains.
I never overplay top pair on the flop.
When I go broke, it's because some moron (like you , it seems) sucked out
after idiot calling way behind
He lost because both players made two pair, and he had the
> worse hand. A classic example of why it doesn't pay to get involved heads
> up against a raiser with a hand that is likely to be dominated.
Wow, you're a fucking retard.
All the chips go on when shithead is an 88-12 dog, and you say I played
dominated.
Give the game up, shithead.
Do it now
>
>
Beldin the Sorcerer
John the shithead is so wrong he should be arrested for espousing insanity
Beldin the Sorcerer
> What you just said explains why you shouldn't have called in the first
> place. If you don't flop QTX or better you're losing. There are no
> implied odds that justify the call if this is your line after the flop.
You're an idiot
Seriously, you're fucked in the head.
I can make 2 pair, trip 10's or a straight
I can make top pair with a T and he can slow down on the turn after he
missed.
I can flop a weak draw and call what looks like a stab, and steal it on the
river.
Genius, I posted an entire tournament again.
Go read it; learn how to play