PARALLELS BETWEEN NAZI GERMANY AND THE BUSH CRIME FAMILY
William Coleman
parallels between the early years of Nazi Germany and the current political
situation in the USA.
1. the illegitimate assumption of power by an unelected leader.
2. the arrest and indefinite detention of citizens not charged with any crime.
3. the internment of innocent people in CONCENTRATION CAMPS.
4. the creation of a DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY (the exact translation
from the German of the equivalent agency in Nazi Germany).
5. the waving of flags and the singing of patriotic songs.
6. the justification of an unprovoked attack on another country in the name of
national security.
7. widespread fear of speaking out against government policies, for fear of
retribution.
8. tight control and censorship of all corporate media, so that the real truth
never gets out about anything embarrassing to the ruling elite.
I think you get the idea. There is already a whiff of fascism in the air.
There has been since the 2000 election, when unruly right-wing fascist mobs used
physical force to disrupt the recounting of ballots in Florida.
After the next major terrorist attack -- and there will be another major
terrorist attack -- the jackbooted thugs will be marching in the streets. All
free speech which the Bush Crime Family considers to be dissent or criticism
will be forcibly suppressed in the name of national security. We have already
heard the White House Press Secretary warn us that "people should watch what
they say".
I see Bush and Hitler as very similar figures. Both are insane. Both are
fascist pigs. Both are mass murderers. Oh, you don't consider dropping 2000
pound bombs on innocent people in Afghanistan mass murder? There are two big
differences between Hitler and Bush. Hitler was extremely intelligent and a
great public speaker. Bush is as dumb as a stick, and mangles the English
Language every time he opens his mouth.
Oh, two other differences. First, Hitler served honorably in the German Army in
World War I, and was decorated with two Iron Crosses, the highest military honor
in Germany. Bush avoided service in Viet Nam by joining the Air National Guard,
then went AWOL for over a year, which constitutes desertion. Second, Hitler
never used alcohol or any other drugs. Bush spent most of his adult life in
either a cocaine haze or an alcoholic stupor.
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
Deep Throat
blank? Has rgp_administration already started deleting his posts? What a
shame, I was looking for a laugh.
Can anyone else see his posts?
yours truly,
Deep Throat
_________________________________________________________________
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Bill Bradley
"Deep Throat" <anon...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> How come when I try to open Mr. Coleman's posts they're all coming up
> blank? Has rgp_administration already started deleting his posts? What a
> shame, I was looking for a laugh.
>
> Can anyone else see his posts?
>
> yours truly,
> Deep Throat
I think he's posting blank posts just to play with our heads. I thought they
weren't going to start deleting until the polling was over?
Bill Vanek
wrote:
>How come when I try to open Mr. Coleman's posts they're all coming up
>blank? Has rgp_administration already started deleting his posts? What a
>shame, I was looking for a laugh.
>
>Can anyone else see his posts?
I'm having the same problem - all the recent ones are blank. WTF?
Then again, maybe he's telling us everything he knows.
pluralizer
I can se the post ..its alot of BS
Eric Bentsen
Asha34
surely am no defender of Bush and the Republican administration he heads. But
your absurd attempt to draw parallels between our government and Nazism can't
go unchallenged.
Your comparison is insulting to anyone who suffered through the Holocaust,
Hitler and the Nazis.
You expose either your complete ignorance of those horrors or a deliberate
attempt to distory and diminish their significance. Shame on you.
Ashley Adams
tadperry
news:3dcb6fc8...@news.softcom.net...
> On Fri, 08 Nov 2002 07:31:51 GMT, "Deep Throat" <anon...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >How come when I try to open Mr. Coleman's posts they're all coming up
> >blank? Has rgp_administration already started deleting his posts? What
a
> >shame, I was looking for a laugh.
> >
> >Can anyone else see his posts?
>
> I'm having the same problem - all the recent ones are blank. WTF?
No, it's not blank. It may be being censored depending on how you read news.
The thing to do under outlook express is call up your service provider, ask
for the proper settings on the "Tools" --> "Accounts" --> "News" -->
"Properties" page. Set up a connection to an uncensored server. That server
will show up on your "Folders" view to the left. Click there and you will
get a screen to add newsgroups. This way you don't need to travel to a
website or use any sort of middle-man whatsoever.
It was actually very interesting. I assume google did not censor it. Look
there if it's not happening too often and you want to keep with what you're
used to.
I personally think the Bush administration has gotten into "You can't fool
all the people all of the time" territory and when our administration is
telling us to watch what we say, it's going too far.
tvp
zorn gottes
OIL........ the Germans lost the war in the east because they
advanced over a million men into the steppes south of Stalingrad, on
the way to the Caucusus in a futile bid to get at the oil reserves
there..... rather than concentrating all of the available forces at
cutting the arterial north south soviet supply line (at Stalingrad on
the bend of the Volga), in which event the whole Russian war machine
would have collapsed, Hitler pursued this far fetched plan of
encircling Turkey in a huge pincer movement ( Rommel in North Africa
was the other side of the pincer )..... When the Soviets counter
attacked in November sixty years ago the whole sixth army in
Stalingrad (over 200 000 men) had to be sacrificed to buy time for the
other million or so to retreat......
Today we have the Russians obsessed with the Caucusus and the oil in
central asia, we have the states equally obsessed with the oil here
there and everywhere, we have the largest concentration camp ever
built in world history on the west bank, and we have a war on
TERRORISM....
What is a terrorist ?? One who seeks to keep a population living in
terror..... so really this is a means of conducting war.... so to say
there is a war on Terrorism is to say there is a war on those who make
war in this way .... Huh ?? Yeah, that's about as vague as waging
war against the international jewish bolshevik conspiracy (1933
propaganda) ......
Why can't Bush say exactly who are the enemies of the United States is
in this war ?? Because to pose this question is to approach the
problem that many many sane people concerned about the future of the
human race on the planet are very much opposed to the world consuming
U.S. capitalist empire, although of course they are not in the camp
with the 'terrorist' bad guys...... this is not a very profitable way
of approaching things.... it gets confusing.... trying to get at the
root of things always does.......
But one last point: Certainly Hitler and the Nazis were more
environmentally conscious than Bush and co. Hard to be less
so.....
William Coleman
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"zorn gottes" <mbar...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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William Coleman
exposed is your total ignorance of the EARLY history of Nazi Germany, BEFORE the
Holocaust. I am not ignorant of the horrors of the Holocaust, nor am I
attempting to diminish the significance of those horrors. It is precisely
because of the horrors of the Holocaust that I am trying to warn everyone that
the USA under the Bush Crime Family is on a course exactly parallel to the early
years of Nazi Germany.
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"Asha34" <ash...@aol.com> wrote in message
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William Coleman
Family -- THE ABROGATION AND/OR SUSPENSION OF CIVIL RIGHTS AND LIBERTIES
FOLLOWING A MAJOR TERRORIST ATTACK.
Of course, most of you have no idea what I am talking about, since you are
completely ignorant of the eary history of Nazi Germany. I suggest you do some
serious research into this early history. The numerous parallels to the current
USA political situation are very scary.
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"William Coleman" <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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NWBurbsCouple
to, in spite of his fears of "fascism" -- would like a copy of the posts where
he calls Bush "insane"?
jimpepper
> On Nov 8 2002 9:05AM, Bill Vanek wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 08 Nov 2002 07:31:51 GMT, "Deep Throat" <anon...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >How come when I try to open Mr. Coleman's posts they're all coming up
> > >blank? Has rgp_administration already started deleting his posts? What a
> > >shame, I was looking for a laugh.
> > >
> > >Can anyone else see his posts?
> >
> > I'm having the same problem - all the recent ones are blank. WTF?
Sad to say that I still can.But all I see are incoherent babblings of an
unstable mind.
>
> >
> > Then again, maybe he's telling us everything he knows.
I think thats his plan,but I'm surprised he's not finished.
jim
William Coleman
completely blinded by the truth.
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"jimpepper" <jameser...@SPAMattbi.com> wrote in message
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john selix
It should be obvious to anyone- the Bush crime family is deleting them
because they don't want anyone knowing the truth. If you can't even
post an intelligent off topic post then go away.
Stephen Jacobs
Literal poker, not any parallel to it.
In itself, this reminds me of my dear friend the gun nut repeatedly saying
that the Nazis disarmed civilians, and Democrats want to do the same. There
may or may not be some significance to the parallels, but simply listing
them (and stretching to fit) doesn't contribute much. FWIW, Hitler's
assumption of power was entirely legal and constitutional, even though he
was the leader of a minority party. Also, "concentration camps" were a
rather late development in the Nazi state. Many of the other parallels
ramashiva lists are too typical of jingoist regimes to need examination.
And I trust he doesn't want to assert a parallel between the causes of the
Reichstag fire and the Sept 11 attacks.
Someone else referred to the West Bank as a concentration camp. I'll allow
that there's room for argument about whether "collective punishment" (a
specific violation of international law) is going on, but people in that
area are free to leave, and there are places where they can go. Definitely
NOT a concentration camp.
William Coleman
Bush, or anyone else, "insane". I do not regard the FBI as a fascist
organization. My concern is that blatant fascists, such as John Ashcroft, are
trying to turn the FBI into a fascist gestapo.
I do have a general distaste and contempt for law enforcement organizations,
because most of them are so corrupt, and have a total disregard for the truth
and the constitution. When someone breaks laws in a way that negatively impacts
me, I always try to deal with the situation myself. When unable to do so, I
have no compunction about turning my enemies in to the police, and letting the
police and the courts deal with the situation.
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"NWBurbsCouple" <nwburb...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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Bill Vanek
wrote:
>No, it's not blank. It may be being censored depending on how you read news.
>
>The thing to do under outlook express is call up your service provider, ask
>for the proper settings on the "Tools" --> "Accounts" --> "News" -->
>"Properties" page. Set up a connection to an uncensored server. That server
>will show up on your "Folders" view to the left. Click there and you will
>get a screen to add newsgroups. This way you don't need to travel to a
>website or use any sort of middle-man whatsoever.
>
>It was actually very interesting. I assume google did not censor it. Look
>there if it's not happening too often and you want to keep with what you're
>used to.
Jesus...
Larry W. (Wayno) Phillips
>Does anyone know of any account of either Hitler or Shrub playing poker?
>Literal poker, not any parallel to it.
Shrub has played poker.
Bad Bob (the albino)
wrote:
>How come when I try to open Mr. Coleman's posts they're all coming up
>blank? Has rgp_administration already started deleting his posts? What a
>shame, I was looking for a laugh.
>
>Can anyone else see his posts?
>
I haven't seen one in days and his emails have stopped too. I guess
they might have acted already but I didn't know they could censor his
email too....
Bad Bob (the albino)
"Cook him till he's blue,
and smother him in onions."
Bruno
We don't want to be "enlightened" by you. Why don't you take this stuff to
some other place where political debate is the order of the site?
BabybackRibs
hand; and now this. You need professinal help. Well, at least i learned
something about German-history.
_________________________________________________________________
jimpepper
>
> I do have a general distaste and contempt for law enforcement organizations,
> because most of them are so corrupt, and have a total disregard for the truth
> and the constitution. When someone breaks laws in a way that negatively impacts
> me, I always try to deal with the situation myself. When unable to do so, I
> have no compunction about turning my enemies in to the police, and letting the
> police and the courts deal with the situation.
Could this entire attitude be hereditary BillyBoy? What was he really doing in that
barn?LOL.
Court Martial of private William Coleman
Court Martial of private William Coleman, 22d Regiment of
Foot, September 1778
W. O. 71/87 p. 209 - 250, Public Record Office
Proceedings of a General Court Martial held in the Camp at
Rhode Island on Monday the 7th of September
1778, by virtue of Warrants from His Excellency Sir Henry
Clinton, Knight of the Most Honorable Order of the
Bath, General and Commander in Chief of all His Majesty's
Forces within the Colonies, laying on the Atlantic
Ocean, from Nova Scotia to West Florida inclusive, &ca &ca
&ca. Dated at Head Quarters, in Newport,
September the 2d 1778.
Lieutenant Colonel John Campbell [22nd Regiment] President.
Members
Lieut. Col. Andrew Bruce [54th Regiment] Lieut. Col. Rawlins
Hillman [22nd Regiment]
Capt. Stephen Bromfield [43th Regiment] Capt. Thomas Coore
[54th Regiment]
Capt. Duncan Cameron [54th Regiment] Capt. John Bachop [54th
Regiment]
Capt. William Miller [43th Regiment] Capt. William Wade [38th
Regiment]
Capt. Robert Lindsay [22nd Regiment] Capt. Michael Seix [22nd
Regiment]
Capt. John Rowland [22nd Regiment] Capt. Thomas Cornwall [not
identified]
Capt. Andrew Maxwell [not identified] Capt. Thomas Chapman
[not identified]
Captain Henry Barry, Deputy Judge Advocate
Saturday September 12th 1778, The Court being assembled.
Prisoner William Coleman, Private Soldier in the 22d Regiment,
and Captain Edward Brabazon's Company, was
brought before it, and charged with being guilty of Desertion.
1st. Evidence. Serjeant Thomas Richards of the 53rd Regiment
being duly sworn, deposes, that he is doing duty
in the same Regiment and Company with the Prisoner, who was
missing the 27th of July last, that Corporal
Baker was the next day sent to seek him in the Hessian
Encampment, and that he has not seen the prisoner since
the day he was missed till the 8th Instant, when he saw him in
the Quarter Guard.
2d Evidence. Corporal Henry Baker of the same Regiment and
Company with the Prisoner, being duly sworn,
deposes, that he called the Roll at nine o'Clock the Evening
of the 27th of July last, when the prisoner was
present, that the next Morning he was absent, and that he did
not see him from that time, till he was brought
prisoner to Camp the 8th Instant.
Defence.
The Prisoner, William Coleman, being called to, and put on his
Defence, says, that being sleeping in a Barn at
some distance from his Encampment, he was taken Prisoner by
some Rebel Privateer's Men, and carried to
Greenwich, from then to Providence, and after, by Order of
General Sullivan, sent to Rode [sic] Island in a Cartel
and exchanged as a prisoner of War the 8th Instant.
The Court having heard and considered the Evidence against the
Prisoner, William Coleman, as also his
Defence, is of Opinion, he is Guilty of the Crime laid to his
Charge, being a Breach of the first Article of the Sixth
Section of the Articles of War, and doth therefore Adjudge him
to suffer Death.
John Campbell
Henry Barry Lieut. Col. 22nd Regt.
Depy. Judge Advocate
Confirmed
William Coleman was described by Major Archibald Erskine as
"very incorrigible & such a poor
looking soldier at the same time".
jimpepper
> You do not see anything. Your mind is completely filled with lies, and
> completely blinded by the truth.
>
> >
I see fire and brimstone........
blowing out your ass!
lol
William Loughborough
> Bush spent most of his adult life in either a cocaine haze or an alcoholic stupor.
>
Love.
tadperry
As in it's odd I found it interesting?
I'm not so blinded that I would let a fascist government overtake my USA.
They may find another way, but if they go to war against Iraq, I'm leaving.
Free-est nation in the world?
Give me Britain or Australia where you can say you don't like this shit!
tvp
NWBurbsCouple
>> Bush spent most of his adult life in either a cocaine haze or an alcoholic
>stupor.
And what's your excuse?
tadperry
> terror..... so really this is a means of conducting war.... so to say
> there is a war on Terrorism is to say there is a war on those who make
> war in this way .... Huh ?? Yeah, that's about as vague as waging
> war against the international jewish bolshevik conspiracy (1933
> propaganda) ......
It's almost time to say, okay, so we add ourselves to the list of
terrorists, when do we wage war on ourselves? Only in the mind when we admit
it.
We've terrorized people from the Indians to the Vietnamese to the Iraqi's.
They lost 100,000 in that war where we kicked butt and didn't notice anybody
hardly die. Their middle class is wiped out. Depleted uranium-laced shells
have women asking doctors "Is it normal?" as their most common question,
replacing: "Is it a boy or a girl?"
There really is a diplomatic solution, but it would take America in the
midst of hot denial of it's own past to act like invading Iraq from across
the world after standing against it invading it's neighbor Kuwait is somehow
right when all I can see is a very twisted hypocrisy.
> Why can't Bush say exactly who are the enemies of the United States is
> in this war ?? Because to pose this question is to approach the
> problem that many many sane people concerned about the future of the
> human race on the planet are very much opposed to the world consuming
> U.S. capitalist empire, although of course they are not in the camp
> with the 'terrorist' bad guys...... this is not a very profitable way
> of approaching things.... it gets confusing.... trying to get at the
> root of things always does.......
People will fall on one side or the other. You're going to be left being who
you are and standing for what you stand for. You vote for what you want,
behave in expression of what you believe, and hope God is on your side.
tvp
Craig Permenter
to my post about RPG and Jack Handy. Here it is 12:35 and you halved wigged
out once again.
Follow along with me now as I try to talk you down from this . (that's what
the older kids called it when they had a bad trip back in the 70s). Take a
few deep breaths and read along with me.
"William Coleman" <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote
> If you are a student of history, you should be alarmed by the number of
> parallels between the early years of Nazi Germany and the current
political
> situation in the USA.
>
> 1. the illegitimate assumption of power by an unelected leader.
1a. The Supreme Court does not agree with you on this point.
> 2. the arrest and indefinite detention of citizens not charged with any
crime.
2a. Score one for William. However, desperate times call for desperate
measures
> 3. the internment of innocent people in CONCENTRATION CAMPS.
3a. If you are refering to Guantanemo you need to send me some of that
shit you're
smoking. It sure beats anything I've ever had.
These people, for the vast majority, are far from innocent. On top
of that , they are
better fed and have better medical treatment than the Taliban and
Osama provided
them with. The truely innocent are already being released.
> 4. the creation of a DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY (the exact
translation from the German of the equivalent agency in Nazi
Germany).
4a. I thought the Germans were the Fatherland (I think I've got you there
William, I used
to watch Hogan's Heros you know), the Soviet Union the Motherland,
and now
we are the Homeland? Is that a trademark infringement? Will we have to
pay some
kind of repartrations for that?
> 5. the waving of flags and the singing of patriotic songs.
5a. Dastardley bastards. Reminds me of when those evil WW II sons of bitches
left our shores to go to war.
> 6. the justification of an unprovoked attack on another country in the
name of
> national security.
6a.Ask the people of Kuwait if they think it's unjustified. Saddam invade
and raped their country. We and others repelled him. Saddam agreed to terms
to preserve his reign. He has have never lived up to his sgreement to stop
the hostilities. He continues to arm his military. The truth is that legally
we really didn't have to go through the UN to go back in to Iraq to finish
the job.
> 7. widespread fear of speaking out against government policies, for fear
of
> retribution.
7a. If that were true neither you nor I would be out on the streets right
now.
> 8. tight control and censorship of all corporate media, so that the real
truth
> never gets out about anything embarrassing to the ruling elite.
8a. Do you not get PBS out in Vegas? How about NPR ? Much of the corporate
media in this country is owned by forgieners. Ask Rupert Murdoch.
>
> I think you get the idea. There is already a whiff of fascism in the air.
> There has been since the 2000 election, when unruly right-wing fascist
mobs used
> physical force to disrupt the recounting of ballots in Florida.
8a. It looked to me like the Republican activist were preventing the
Democratic activist from locking the door and counting the ballots in
secret.
>
> After the next major terrorist attack -- and there will be another major
> terrorist attack -- the jackbooted thugs will be marching in the
streets. All
> free speech which the Bush Crime Family considers to be dissent or
criticism
> will be forcibly suppressed in the name of national security. We have
already
> heard the White House Press Secretary warn us that "people should watch
what
> they say".
Don't make bomb threats, don't make terrorist jokes on an airplane, and
don't yell fire in a crowded theater and I think you'll be OK.
> I see Bush and Hitler as very similar figures. Both are insane. Both are
> fascist pigs. Both are mass murderers. Oh, you don't consider dropping
2000
> pound bombs on innocent people in Afghanistan mass murder? There are two
big
> differences between Hitler and Bush. Hitler was extremely intelligent and
a
> great public speaker. Bush is as dumb as a stick, and mangles the English
> Language every time he opens his mouth.
There were, no doubt, innocents killed in the bombing of Afganistan. The
figures are disputed depending upon whose did the counting. Do this, take
the highest figure and multiply it by 100. Then compare that to the figure
the Taliban killed because they wanted to go to school, or their beard was
too short, or a glimpse of their wrist flashed, or simply because they had a
viagiana instead of a penis. Then compare that first figure with the
millions upon millions we kept from starving to death. We delivered tons,
upon tons, upon tons of food to those poor peaseants William. You
accusations are ridiculious.
> Oh, two other differences. First, Hitler served honorably in the German
Army in
> World War I, and was decorated with two Iron Crosses, the highest military
honor
> in Germany. Bush avoided service in Viet Nam by joining the Air National
Guard,
> then went AWOL for over a year, which constitutes desertion. Second,
Hitler
> never used alcohol or any other drugs. Bush spent most of his adult life
in
> either a cocaine haze or an alcoholic stupor.
Another one for you on the military.
As to the drug use, maybe Hitler should have smoked a joint now and then.
Get some sleep.
William Coleman
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"jimpepper" <jameser...@SPAMattbi.com> wrote in message
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William Coleman
century, there is no possibility that this William Coleman, if this report is
reliable, is any relationship to me.
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"jimpepper" <jameser...@SPAMattbi.com> wrote in message
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William Coleman
alone? If you don't want to read my posts, don't read them. Why do you fascist
pigs always campaign to silence all views which differ from your own? You
people are thoroughly unamerican, and traitors to all the sacred ideals of
freedom on which this country was founded.
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"Bruno" <thebrun...@aol.com> wrote in message
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William Coleman
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"BabybackRibs" <Tony...@aol.com> wrote in message
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William Coleman
is a matter of debate. I notice you do not challenge my characterization of
George Bush as an unelected leader who illegitimately assumed power.
I see a great deal of similarity between the gun control nuts and the
confiscation of guns by the Nazis. What is the difference? Large concentration
camps were a relatively late phenomenon. But Hitler started the wholesale
incarceration and murder of his political opponents as soon as he came to power.
This included factions of the Nazi movement which he felt were out of his
control.
With respect to the Reichstag fire, the obvious parallel is the use of a
terrorist incident to supress civil liberties. It is widely suspected, but not
proven, that Hitler was behind the Reichstag fire. Although I am a conspiracy
theorist, I do not believe that there is any evidence that the Bush Crime Family
was behind 9/11.
With respect to concentration camps, you do not consider the "terrorist
detention center" in Cuba to be a concentration camp???
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"Stephen Jacobs" <jac...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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ParadiseLost
I think Deep Throat and Bill Vanek were running a gag. I think he was being
sarcastic with the "Jesus" remark- he's frustrated or surprised that you
didn't get the joke.
ParadiseLost
guys didn't get his and Deep Throat's joke.
On Nov 8 2002 7:40AM, tadperry wrote:
_________________________________________________________________
Bruno
> Why don't you shove your golf-ball sized head up your faggot ass, and leave
me
> alone? If you don't want to read my posts, don't read them. Why do you
fascist
> pigs always campaign to silence all views which differ from your own? You
> people are thoroughly unamerican, and traitors to all the sacred ideals of
> freedom on which this country was founded.
I'll make it as simple as possible for you, bill: Because this is
'recpoker.com'. Not 'Bill"Rama-blingon-sheeva"Coleman.com. Get it yet?
You continually go off the gambling/poker framing of this forum to
whatever rant you decide is the latest topic that the rest of the forum
readers need to be "educated" and "enlightened" about.
But the real funny things in your response are: you called me a "faggot"
(most psychologists would question why you resort to calling someone a
homosexual when you are frustrated), you threw me into a grouping "facist
pigs" (why the need to group?), and label me a traitor.
You continually paint a picture that reveals more and more about your
repressed feelings and emotional immaturity, and less and less about your
ability to stay on subject and react positively with other people.
Irish Mike
It's impossible to have a rational discussion with an irrational person like
Coleman.
Irish Mike
"Bruno" <thebrun...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Lou Krieger
>> William Coleman <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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With respect to concentration camps, you do not consider the "terrorist
detention center" in Cuba to be a concentration camp??? <<
The Nazi concentration camps were used to extinguish the lives of innocents:
women, children, the elderly, and other civilians of whom the vast majority
were German citizens. The detention centers in Cuba are housing terrorists
and other combatants. And they are merely being detained, not gassed in
ovens.
If you can't see the difference between detaining POWs and the slaughter of
innocents, you have demonstrated an astounding inability to make basic and
elemental distinctions in the analysis of very dissimilar events.
Your very assertions collapse your own arguments.
William Coleman
It is not a poker newsgroup. It is a newsgroup for poker players. Poker
players discuss many other topics besides poker. Any topic of interest to poker
players is suitable for inclusion in this newsgroup. Many other posters besides
me post a lot of off-topic material. Most of my off-topic material starts as a
response to the off-topic material of others. When the topic is sufficiently
important, I start on new thread on off-topic subjects. The fact that many
poster participate in some of my off-topic threads is clear proof that this
material is off interest to many RGP members.
You are a fascist pig and a traitor, because you think trying to silence or
censor others is a legitimate use of you free speech rights. It is not a
legitimate use, it is abuse. Please see my post "Ramashiva on Censorship", for
a clear, compelling argument for why all censors and would be censors are
totalitarian fascists.
You make a big deal out of me calling you a faggot. I notice that you do not
deny the charge. I call you a faggot because it is obvious that you are not a
real man. I do not know whether you like to have other men fuck you in the ass.
When I am not busy refuting the nonsensical off-topic nonsense of others, I make
very solid poker posts, as you can verify if you gather all my posts and go
through them. It is my decision, not yours, how much off-topic material I post,
and when. Please stop trying to tell me how to live my life, when you do not
possess the faculty of rational thought.
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"Bruno" <thebrun...@aol.com> wrote in message
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William Coleman
free to stick your censorious nose into any of my threads when you feel like
making a comment.
You should have said that it is impossible for you to have a rational discussion
with me. That is because you do not possess the faculty of rational thought.
You are an irrational idiot. If you look at my threads, you will see that I
have had many rational discussions with posters on RGP. I have rational
discussions with those who speak to me as one rational human being addresses
another rational human being. You would know nothing about that, because you
are not rational. Anyone who uses a killfile, is, by definition, irrational.
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"Irish Mike" <mjo...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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Soleo
The idea that OUR nation is better, WE live proper way, but OTHERS are
worse, and they must be improved. When whole nation decide that they way
of life is better and they could teach others, could declare whole other
nations to be their enemies... - then governor's political orientation
will just reflect that such idea came to masses.
Avoid this idea in it's extremal grade coming to your house because this
would be "fascism" you scared, and not expression of your leader.
Soleo
William Coleman
does not make it any less a concentration camp. You have arbitrarily defined
concentration camp as a place where mass murder takes place. I do not agree
with this definition, nor is there any justification for it. In fact, you have
committed a classical logical fallacy in your supposedly logical analysis to
discredit me-- Mass murder was committed at Auschwitz, Dachau, etc. Auschwitz,
Dachau, etc., were concentration camps. Therefore, mass murder is committed at
all concentration camps. If mass murder is not committed at a detention
facility, then that facility is not a concentration camp.
I hope you can see the fallacy in this argument, but I doubt it. Don't you
write books? WTF are you doing writing books, when you could not even pass a
freshman college class on logical reasoning and analysis? You are a joke.
With respect to the Nazi concentration camps, let me tell you something else
which will probably shock most RGP readers, and result in my being branded a
Nazi, even though I have made perfectly clear that I dispise Nazism and Nazis --
There are several detailed accounts of life in the Nazi concentration camps,
written by people who were interned at these concentration camps. The fact that
these authors were actually in Nazi concentration camps is well documented.
Some of the authors state flatly that no mass murder of Jews, or anyone else
ever took place in the Nazi concentration camps. They do say that many millions
of people died in these camps, but not because of mass murder. The millions of
deaths, not just of Jews, but of all ethnic groups, occurred because of
starvation, slave labor, harsh treatment by camp guards, and harsh environmental
conditions. I do not know what the truth really is. If it turns out that the
Holocaust, as a systematic extermination of the Jews, never happened, then much
of twentieth century history will have to be rewritten. For one thing, the Jews
are collosal liars if the Holocaust never took place. For another thing, the
charges of mass murder and genocide against Hitler and his Nazi thugs are also
totally false. In this scenario, Hitler is nothing more than a fanatical
nationalist, trying to conquer the world. He then falls into the same category
as Napoleon and Alexander the Great. No angel, just another important
historical figure.
It is hard to know what to think about Hitler. We cannot just accept the
demonized image of Hitler which resulted from World War II. Countries at war
always demonize the leaders of the country they are at war with.
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"Lou Krieger" <loukr...@dc.rr.com> wrote in message
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William Coleman
have used one intellectual bullying tactic after another to reach your false
conclusions.
Point 1a. The Supreme Court does not agree with you on this point. Duh!!! I
guess you did not read my other posts about the 2000 election. My whole point
is that the Supreme Court made a clearly unconstitutional decision which
amounted to a coup d'etat, and resulted in installing George Bush as a
completely illegitimate "President".
Point 3a. I never said that everyone detained in USA concentration camps is
innocent. I said innocent people are being detained in concentration camps.
You concede that some of the people involved are innocent. With that concession
you prove my point. You have committed the classical "strawman" fallacy. You
completely misrepresent my position, thus creating a strawman. Then you refute
the strawman. Big deal.
Point 4a. Here you introduce a bunch of irrelevant facts, in an attempt to
obscure the real issue. WTF do "Fatherland" and "Motherland" have to do with
anything? Ask anyone who speaks German, and is familiar with the history of
Nazi Germany, whether "Department of Homeland Security" would be an accurate
translation for a much-feared government agency in Nazi Germany.
Point 5a. The singing of patriotic songs and the waving of flags is disgusting
to me no matter who does it or when. It is nothing but a manifestation of
atavistic nationalism. If you have studied history at all, then you know that
nationalism is the cause of every major war in history.
Point 6a. I was not referring to the Gulf War, although I also think that war
was unjustified, for the simple reason that I think all wars are unjustified. I
was referring to the proposed attack on Iraq by the Bush Crime Family, who seem
determined to start World War III.
Point 7a. There is widespread fear of speaking out and you know it. You do not
hear much about it, but many reporters and media figures have lost their jobs
for merely pointing out that the imperialistic American foreign policy might be
one of the causes of 9/11. You don't hear much about these cases, because the
Bush Crime Family and the corporate-controlled media don't want anyone to know
what happens to critics of American foreign policy.
Point 8a. Yes, we get PBS and NPR in Las Vegas. They are not
corporate-controlled media, thus irrelevant to this discussion. The fact that
some media, such as Fox networks, are foreign owned does not change the fact
that they are controlled by large multinational corporations. Again, you
introduce a lot of irrelevancies here, in an attempt to confuse the issue.
Point 9a. Maybe that's what it looked like to you. The people who were
recounting the ballots were duly elected and/or appointed election officials.
The people who used physical force to prevent this recounting were an unruly mob
of right-wing thugs. It is a documented fact that this mob was organized and
given marching orders by Republican Party operatives.
"Don't make bomb threats, etc." More irrelevancies, Craig. Ari Fleisher
(spelling?) was referring to criticism of the Bush Crime Family, and you know
it.
The Taliban, Afghanistan, etc. Again still more irrelevancies, Craig. What do
the Taliban have to do with the question of whether or not George Bush has
killed large numbers of innocent people? More strawman arguments, Craig. You
have no answer to what I am saying, so you go off on a topic which has nothing
to do with the point I am making.
Finally, I agree that Hitler would have been a much cooler dude if he had smoked
marijuana. But then, so would everyone else.
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"Craig Permenter" <craigs...@tca.net> wrote in message
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Bad Bob (the albino)
I gotta Amen that one Bill. At least he has some experience. I have to
admit part of why I supported Al Gore was because Tommy Lee Jones was
his roommate at college.
Hung
"William Coleman" <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> If you are a student of history, you should be alarmed by the number of
> parallels between the early years of Nazi Germany and the current
political
> situation in the USA.
>
> 1. the illegitimate assumption of power by an unelected leader.
>
> 2. the arrest and indefinite detention of citizens not charged with any
crime.
>
> 3. the internment of innocent people in CONCENTRATION CAMPS.
>
> 4. the creation of a DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY (the exact
translation
> from the German of the equivalent agency in Nazi Germany).
>
> 5. the waving of flags and the singing of patriotic songs.
>
> 6. the justification of an unprovoked attack on another country in the
name of
> national security.
>
> 7. widespread fear of speaking out against government policies, for fear
of
> retribution.
>
> 8. tight control and censorship of all corporate media, so that the real
truth
> never gets out about anything embarrassing to the ruling elite.
>
> I think you get the idea. There is already a whiff of fascism in the air.
> There has been since the 2000 election, when unruly right-wing fascist
mobs used
> physical force to disrupt the recounting of ballots in Florida.
>
> After the next major terrorist attack -- and there will be another major
> terrorist attack -- the jackbooted thugs will be marching in the
streets. All
> free speech which the Bush Crime Family considers to be dissent or
criticism
> will be forcibly suppressed in the name of national security. We have
already
> heard the White House Press Secretary warn us that "people should watch
what
> they say".
>
> I see Bush and Hitler as very similar figures. Both are insane. Both are
> fascist pigs. Both are mass murderers. Oh, you don't consider dropping
2000
> pound bombs on innocent people in Afghanistan mass murder? There are two
big
> differences between Hitler and Bush. Hitler was extremely intelligent and
a
> great public speaker. Bush is as dumb as a stick, and mangles the English
> Language every time he opens his mouth.
>
> Oh, two other differences. First, Hitler served honorably in the German
Army in
> World War I, and was decorated with two Iron Crosses, the highest military
honor
> in Germany. Bush avoided service in Viet Nam by joining the Air National
Guard,
> then went AWOL for over a year, which constitutes desertion. Second,
Hitler
> never used alcohol or any other drugs. Bush spent most of his adult life
in
> either a cocaine haze or an alcoholic stupor.
>
>
>
>
William Coleman
fascism. These two phenomena frequently appear conjointly, but are distinct
phenomena, nonetheless. Nationalism is the total identification with a
particular group, and the exultation of that group as superior to all others.
From the word "nationalism" it is clear that, in the modern sense, the relevant
group is the nation state.
Fascism, as defined by Mussolini, is the merging of corporate and state power.
From this it is clear that FASCISM = SOCIALISM, since socialism is, by
definition, the ownership of the means of production by the state. I, and many
others, use the terms fascist and fascism somewhat loosely, because the major
historical instances of fascism have manifested as totalitarian police states,
which brutally suppressed individual rights, including freedom of speech and
freedom of the press.
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"Soleo" <sol...@mail.ru> wrote in message
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Stephen Jacobs
I don't wanna quote anyone on anything here. And frankly, I'd rather talk
poker. Just a word about concentration camps and the unique Nazi invention:
death camps. They are and were different things. Plenty of people died of
"natural" causes in Nazi concentration camps (Anne Frank, for instance, died
of starvation and typhus at the women's concentration camp of Bergen
Belsen). The death camps were different--people were intentionally killed,
as quickly as feasible. That is why something like 95% of the Jews of
Greece never returned: they were sent directly to a death camp (the Birkenau
camp at Auschwitz) at a time when it was operating rapidly. There are first
person accounts of the operation of the death camps--I challenge anyone to
read "Playing for Time" (by Fania Fenelon) and not be affected. There is a
remarkable account of arranged visits to the Warsaw Ghetto, a small
concentration camp and a small death camp by the late Polish hero Karski
("Story of a Secret State"). He was officially disbelieved on this subject
at the time, but there is no reason to doubt his words anymore.
There's no particular reason to say that the places the US sent West Coast
citizens of Japanese descent were anything other than concentration camps.
The name fits, but at worst, they were comparable to low-security prisons.
It's probably correct to call the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay a
concentration camp, too: prisoners are held there at the convenience of the
US government, not under judicial or ordinary military authority. It's
could grow into a stain on our coumtry's honor, but so far it seems better
than the traditional way of dealing with those suspected of being irregular
combatants. You-know-who-all is watching.
William Coleman
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"Hung" <in...@antispampokerclub.be> wrote in message
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Lou Krieger
The fact that mass murder is not taking place in the concentration camp in
Cuba
does not make it any less a concentration camp. You have arbitrarily
defined
have
committed a classical logical fallacy in your supposedly logical analysis to
discredit me-- Mass murder was committed at Auschwitz, Dachau, etc <<
If you read my remarks as they are wrtitten, you'll see quite clearly that I
never defined concentration camps in the way you allege that I did. I
merely pointed out that there is a significant degree of difference between
detaining combatants in Cuba, and killing innocents in Nazi Germany.
Moreover, your argument that the Nazis did not systematically exterminate
Jews, Poles, Gypsys, and other groups is mere conjecture, without no
credible weight of evidence to support this revisionist theory.
Finally, my arguments were not made to discredit you in any way whatsoever;
that was not my purpose. They were made to collapse your arguments. If you
define a challenge to your arguments and your philosophical and intellectual
positions as an attack on you personally, you'll never cut it -- not even in
a freshman debating forum. And I never ressorted to name calling. You
chose to refer to me as "...a joke." I disagreed with your position, but
made a point of treating you with respect. If you cannot or will not
accord me the same degree of respect in civil discourse, then I have no need
to continue to engage you in conversation.
Oh yes, in answer to your question, I do write books.
Lou Krieger
Craig Permenter
I am tired after a busy and hectic day. I am going home now. I will get back
to you tomorrow.
"William Coleman" <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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William Coleman
camp analysis, you conclude that my very assertions collapse my own arguments.
You were implying, although not explicitly stating, that you had shown that the
Cuban detention facility was not a concentration camp. All I did was make
explicit the underlying argument which would justify a conclusion that the Cuban
facility was not a concentration camp. Bottom line, do you now concede that the
Cuban detention facility is a concentration camp???
Yes or no. No mealy-mouthed bullshit. If yes, then how are my arguments
collapsed? If no, how did you reach that conclusion??? You are going to wind
up using some variation of the fallacious argument which i imputed to you.
If you concede that the Cuban facility is a concentration camp, then, since you
have also conceded that at least some of the alleged terrorists being held in
Cuba are innocent, then you have also conceded that my original statement, that
innocent people are being detained in concentration camps, is true. It is this
statement which you attacked, and claimed by disproving it, you had collapsed my
whole argument.
I do not argue that the Holocaust never happened. Nor do I conjecture that it
never happened. My personal belief is that the Holocaust did happen, pretty
much as we have been told. All I was pointing out was that there is eyewitness
testimony which directly contradicts the accepted version of what happened in
the Nazi Concentration Camps.
I do not construe a logical analysis of my arguments to be a personal attack on
me. This is just more of your nonsensical bullshit. Please quote anything in
my original reply to you which indicates that I thought you were making a
personal attack on me. This is just more strawman argument tactics. You are
attributing something to me that I never said -- the strawman. Then you
attack and demolish the strawman. Big deal. You are an intellectual bully,
pure and simple. In other words, you use unfair, logically fallacious
argumentative tactics. This is a very good indication that you are incapable of
logical, rational thought.
Yes, I called you a joke because you are a joke. Your posts clearly indicate
that you are incapable of logical, analytical thought, yet you make all these
pretensions to logical rational analysis. Your so-called logical analysis is
nothing more than a hatchet job, using the dirtiest of intellectual bullying
tactics. You are pretending to be something you are not. Instead of writing
books, you should be taking a class in logical analysis and critical thinking.
Calling someone a joke, a mass murderer, or anything else is not a personal
attack, if there is sufficient corroborating evidence. In your case, the
evidence that you are a joke is quite substantial.
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"Lou Krieger" <loukr...@dc.rr.com> wrote in message
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thePokerCroaker
say about OT subjects. Mr coleman has some very interesting opinions.
Those RGPers who are trying to shout him down or are busy making up phoney
allegations about him are really missing the boat. Keep it up, William.
Its their loss for those who refuse to look beyond their one-dimensional
poker lives.
rrribBiT, Kermit
Soleo
> state power.
Many state orders put into practice such merging. This definition of
fascism is tidy and doesn't include details of state functioning and
outside world interaction. But anyway I can't comment how this definition
could be applied to today's USA because I don't know about mechanics of
defense and military orders placement among US private corporations, or
how many military plants are in state ownership. But I am sure that
Mr.Bush is not responsible person because this arrangement is probably
older than his presidentship.
Acesover
censorship and an infringement on your free speech, but when I make an off
color joke about someone's race or religion, and I'm sued in civil court,
I'm being an insensitive pig?
What, exactly, is free speech?
Is it only free speech when it fits in with what the liberal-left wants to
hear?
Acesover
On Nov 8 2002 7:32AM, tadperry wrote:
> "Bill Vanek" <bilv...@softcom.net> wrote in message
> news:3dcb6fc8...@news.softcom.net...
> > On Fri, 08 Nov 2002 07:31:51 GMT, "Deep Throat" <anon...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >How come when I try to open Mr. Coleman's posts they're all coming up
> > >blank? Has rgp_administration already started deleting his posts? What
> a
> > >shame, I was looking for a laugh.
> > >
> > >Can anyone else see his posts?
> >
> > I'm having the same problem - all the recent ones are blank. WTF?
>
> No, it's not blank. It may be being censored depending on how you read news.
>
> The thing to do under outlook express is call up your service provider, ask
> for the proper settings on the "Tools" --> "Accounts" --> "News" -->
> "Properties" page. Set up a connection to an uncensored server. That server
> will show up on your "Folders" view to the left. Click there and you will
> get a screen to add newsgroups. This way you don't need to travel to a
> website or use any sort of middle-man whatsoever.
>
> It was actually very interesting. I assume google did not censor it. Look
> there if it's not happening too often and you want to keep with what you're
> used to.
>
> I personally think the Bush administration has gotten into "You can't fool
> all the people all of the time" territory and when our administration is
> telling us to watch what we say, it's going too far.
>
> tvp
Acesover
> you are and standing for what you stand for. You vote for what you want,
> behave in expression of what you believe, and hope God is on your side.
>
> tvp
Sir, you have hit upon something we agree on.....
Well said.
Acesover (let's play poker)
Gerry
By all means, dont let the door hit you in the ass as you are leaving.
And please, please PLEASE take Alec Baldwin, Susan Sarandon,
Speilberg, and all the other left wing liberal communists in hollywood
with you. You know, the ones who all said that they would leave the
country if Bush won the election, but so far, HAVE NOT left....
Gerry
in Kosovo
Gerry
Have you ever heard of a book called Rattenkrieg, or as translated,
War of the rats? You should read it. It is almost entirely about the
battle of Stalingrad and tells what really happened there, instead of
your inaccurate post here.
First you say that this was a battle over oil. While there may have
been a touch of truth to that, as Stalingrad was ocassionally called
the gateway to the Crimean, it by no means was a battle over oil.
Stalingrad was largely a battle of Vanity. Between Stalin and Hitler.
Hitler wanted to smash STALINgrad mostly because of the blow he felt
it would do to the morale of the red army, and the personal insult it
would deliver to Stalin. Stalin decided to protect Stalingrad at ALL
costs, including the sacrafice of every single person in the city, or
the armies surrounding it.
Hitlers officers frequently asked him to allow them to dig in, that
is, to plant their camps for the winter, and were routinely denied.
By the time that they finally hit the dead of winter and tried to dig
in, to construct adequate fortifications for their camps, the ground
was frozen, which made it impossible for the Germans to fortify their
positions.
As far as oil, Hitler already had an adequate supply coming from
Romanian oilfields,and certainly did not need to capture the city of
Stalingrad to forge his way into the Ukraine, and lower Crimean
oilfields.
Incidentally, 200,000 were not sacrificed. Actually the number was
higher and there were 650,000 German POWs taken there. There was no
reall mass retreat. Most of them were captured or killed and if they
were captured, then they were very likely not to make it home ever
again, as the Russians were just as ruthless on them as the Germans
had been.
Later, you talk of terrorists, and seem to imply that we are just as
bad as terrorists, because we took the time to strike back at them
after they killed more than three thousand innocent people Sept. 11.
Still later.....you-through some fancy footwork of words, seem to
imply that Bush cant really say who we are against in the war on
terrorism, because to do so would make some people in the world
uncomfortable. Perhaps you are saying that we should just come out
and say what countries you are talking about here. Is Saudi Arabia on
your list? It is painfully obvious that you just dont know how
international relations and diplomacy work, or that you are just so
fed up with hatred for the US goverment, that you cant seem to say
what you really mean.
Your writing really does put you somewhere near the company of
klinton, since he never failed to try to amaze us with the bullshit
that he uttered, although if you really analyzed what he said, he
never really said anything at all. Kind of like your post here.
You should do some research on world affairs, and read about
international relations before you attempt to take a stab at something
this complicated. Your status as a novice in these areas makes you
look almost as foolish as coleman, though by no means do you seem to
be filled with hate and venom like he is.
Regards,
Gerry
in Kosovo
> You forgot to mention the common material denominator, namely
> OIL........ the Germans lost the war in the east because they
> advanced over a million men into the steppes south of Stalingrad, on
> the way to the Caucusus in a futile bid to get at the oil reserves
> there..... rather than concentrating all of the available forces at
> cutting the arterial north south soviet supply line (at Stalingrad on
> the bend of the Volga), in which event the whole Russian war machine
> would have collapsed, Hitler pursued this far fetched plan of
> encircling Turkey in a huge pincer movement ( Rommel in North Africa
> was the other side of the pincer )..... When the Soviets counter
> attacked in November sixty years ago the whole sixth army in
> Stalingrad (over 200 000 men) had to be sacrificed to buy time for the
> other million or so to retreat......
> Today we have the Russians obsessed with the Caucusus and the oil in
> central asia, we have the states equally obsessed with the oil here
> there and everywhere, we have the largest concentration camp ever
> built in world history on the west bank, and we have a war on
> TERRORISM....
>
> What is a terrorist ?? One who seeks to keep a population living in
> terror..... so really this is a means of conducting war.... so to say
> there is a war on Terrorism is to say there is a war on those who make
> war in this way .... Huh ?? Yeah, that's about as vague as waging
> war against the international jewish bolshevik conspiracy (1933
> propaganda) ......
>
> Why can't Bush say exactly who are the enemies of the United States is
> in this war ?? Because to pose this question is to approach the
> problem that many many sane people concerned about the future of the
> human race on the planet are very much opposed to the world consuming
> U.S. capitalist empire, although of course they are not in the camp
> with the 'terrorist' bad guys...... this is not a very profitable way
> of approaching things.... it gets confusing.... trying to get at the
> root of things always does.......
>
> But one last point: Certainly Hitler and the Nazis were more
> environmentally conscious than Bush and co. Hard to be less
> so.....
William Coleman
not to put down America and her policies. They also have free speech, and have
a perfect right to admonish and advise me in this way. When it becomes
censorship and an infringement of my free speech rights is when posters on 2+2
complain about my posts, and demand that I be barred. Now they are abusing
their free speech rights by trying to infringe on mine. I don't want to get
into a libertarian debate about 2+2 being privately owned, so they can do
whatever they want, etc. Of course they can do what ever they want. Censorship
is censorship, whether it is practiced by the government or by private parties.
Similarly, Irish Mike and Abdul are perfectly free to put me in their kill
files. I do not have a problem with that. I do have a problem when they start
urging others to put me in their kill files. Why should Irish Mike and Abdul
care whether others read my posts or not??? Their attempts to get others to
kill file me are once again an attempt to interfere with my free speech rights,
since they are attempting to convince others to ignore me. Why?? Because they
do not want others to hear the truths which I am saying. They are trying to
censor me, pure and simple.
Similarly, the people who incessantly complain about my off-topic posting are at
least incipient censors. They are trying to pressure me to stop posting
off-topic material which offends them. If there was anyone they could complain
to to get me barred from RGP, is there any doubt in your mind that these
off-topic complainers would demand that I be barred? The same exact situation
happened on 2+2, and Mason caved in to the pressure, and barred me. As long as
Matty Sklansky was the moderator, I was free to post whatever I wanted. Matty
just ignored all the complaints, which was the correct action as forum
moderator.
This same type of censorship is widespread in our society. It is mainly a
right-wing conservative phenomenon, althought the left is also guilty in this
area, particularly on college campuses. For example, when the movie "The Last
Temptation of Christ" came out, there were massive protests by right-wing
Christian fundamentalists. Now protesting is certainly covered by their rights
to free speech. The point is, they were not just protesting the movie. They
were trying to get the theaters to yank the film so no one could see it. It is
absolutely none of their business what movies other people watch. In a society
which values freedom of expression, they do not even have a right to have an
opinion about what movies other people watch.
Another example. Why are there no nationally syndicated liberal talk show hosts
on radio? Please don't say because there is no audience. You right-wing
fanatics blithely assume you are the silent majority, when in fact you are a
tiny minority. There are no national liberal talk show hosts, because the
corporate controlled radio stations do not want the liberal point of view being
heard. Not only that, whenever a liberal talk show host appears on any radio
station in the country, the station is immediately inundated with calls from
angry right-wingers, demanding that the traitorous commie propaganda be taken
off the air. Why do they even care??? If they don't like the show, they should
not listen to it. Why do they have to organize phone campaigns to drive the
liberal talk show host off the air. Very simple. Because they are totalitarian
fascists, and do not want the truth about them and the Bush Crime Family to
become general knowledge.
If you doubt that this is what happens to liberal talk show hosts, I suggest you
contact Peter Werbe and Mike Malloy. They can provide you with detailed,
documentable information on this matter. Peter and Mike are nationally
syndicated talk show hosts who have experienced this right-wing censorship
repeatedly. You can listen to their call-in talk shows every week day by going
to www.ieamericaradio.com and choosing one of the 24 kbps audio streams.
Ieamerica Radio is 100% owned by the United Auto Workers. Peter is more of a
classic labor socialist, and I do not agree with his socialist views, but I
agree with all his devastating criticisms of the Bush Crime Family. Mike Malloy
is more of a classic left-wing liberal, and extremely humorous. Like me, he is
opposed to all gun control, even though he is a liberal. Both Peter and Mike
are syndicated on a few radio stations around the country. I do not know how
many, but some callers say they are listening on such-and-such radio station.
Everytime IEAmerica Radio convinces a radio station to carry Peter and Mike, the
radio stations ratings increase dramatically. But an incessant phone campaign
also starts, demanding that Peter and Mike be taken off the air. This fascist
censorship campaign extends to calling all the radio station's advertisers and
demanding that Peter and Mike be silenced or the advertisers' products will be
boycotted. Almost always, the radio station caves in to the pressure. Now the
right-wing conservatives think they have a perfect right to engage in these
activities. They certainly do, but the point is, they are abusing their free
speech rights by trying to silence others. It is none of their concern or
business what others listen to on the radio. When was the last time that you
heard of a bunch of liberals trying to pressure a radio station to take Rush
Limbaugh off the air??? Liberals just don't care whether people listen to Rush
Limbaugh or not. They know that Rush Limbaugh is a brain-dead idiot, and a
compulsive liar. If people want to listen to Rush's spew, who cares??? You can
frequently see Peter and Mike on cable news channels, such as MSNBC and CNN.
These news channels trot out Peter and Mike whenever they want a talking head to
represent the left-wing point of view.
If all you listen to and watch are the right-wing, corporate-controlled media,
you have never heard the real liberal left-wing point of view. The right wing
and the corporate media are desperate to prevent the left-wing point of view
from being heard. When the corporate media want a left-wing point of view, they
trot out some toothless whore like Dick Gephart or Tom Daschle. LOL. Dick and
Tom are neither liberal nor left wing. They are right of center Democratic
politicians who bend over and take it in the ass whenever George Bush tells them
to.
If you want to hear what real liberals and left-wingers think about the current
world situation, then start listening to Peter and Mike. You will swear that
their scripted rants were lifted from a Ramashiva rant and rave. They did not
copy me, and I did not copy them. I independently came to all the same
conclusions before I ever started listening to Peter and Mike.
You can make all the off color jokes about someone's race or religion that you
want to. I would never think of suing you in court, no matter how offensive I
thought your remarks were. But I do think that joking about another person's
race and/or religion is in extremely bad taste, and is not appropriate in
civilized discourse.
"Is it only free speech when it fits in with what the liberal-left wants to
hear?" Of course not. Your criticism may have some validity on college
campuses dominated by "liberal" students and/or "liberal" professors. I do not
regard such individuals as liberals, just because they say they are liberals. I
regard them as censorious fascists who are giving the word "liberal" a bad name.
Any true liberal believes in freedom of speech for everyone. Despite the lies
of the Idiot Gerry, the UN Policeman, the ACLU, for example, strongly supports
the right of free speech for everyone, even when they vigorously disagree with
the free speech in question. Gerry tries to make a case against the ACLU by
listing a bunch of situations in which the ACLU does not defend someone's
rights. First of all, the ACLU cannot be everywhere. You cannot fault them for
not defending a particular person. Second of all, if you look at the examples
of alleged rights that the ACLU does not defend, you will quickly see that none
of the people he talks about have any right whatsoever to do the things that
Gerry talks about. For example, Gerry thinks students in a taxpayer-funded
school have a right to public prayer in the schools and/or athletic events.
They have no such right, because such public prayers violate the constitutional
separation of church and state. All of Gerry's examples are similar. He
repeatedly chastises the ACLU for not defending someone's "rights", when these
rights only exist in Gerry's head, not in the U. S. Constitution. Check out his
post on this. You will see what I mean.
The classic liberal, the French philosopher Voltaire, said it best -- I may
disagree with every word you say, but I will defend to the death your right to
say it. The censorious right-wing conservatives in this country clearly do not
agree with Voltaire on this point.
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"Acesover" <anon...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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William Coleman
second reply to you. I had a very similar discussion with him about the USA
concentration camp in Cuba. Specifically, I state that you had already conceded
that at least some of the "terrorists" being held in Cuba were innocent. Craig
conceded that. I do not see where you specifically conceded that fact. There
may be other confusion between you and Craig in my second reply to you. If so,
I apologize in advance.
Since I had to make this post to correct my error before you did, lets just
consider the dictionary definition of "concentration camp".
Webster's New Third International Dictionary defines "concentration camp" as "a
camp where persons (as prisoners of war, political prisoners, refugees, or
foreign nationals) are detained or confined and SOMETIMES (my emphasis)
subjected to physical and mental abuse and indignity." By this definition, the
USA detention facility in Cuba is clearly a concentration camp. End of story.
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"William Coleman" <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Peg Smith
Coleman" <rama...@earthlink.net> writes:
>It is not censorship or an infringement of my free speech for people to tell
>me
>not to put down America and her policies. They also have free speech, and
>have
>a perfect right to admonish and advise me in this way...
So, you're finally conceding that Irish Mike's free speech rights extend to his
advice regarding the use of a killfile?
Peg
Bill Vanek
<rama...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>It is hard to know what to think about Hitler.
It's hard for the truly disturbed to know what to think about
anything. Get help.
William Coleman
President. That would be Al Gore, President in Exile.
You are exactly correct that the military-industrial complex, as defined by
President Eisenhower, precedes the illegal occupation of the White House by
George Bush. What is unique about the Bush Crime Family is that they are all
bought and paid for by the multinational oil companies. The Bush regime is
nothing less than an overt attempt by the multinational oil and energy companies
to take over not just the U. S. government, but the entire world. It is in this
sense that Bush and his cronies are much more hard core fascists than just the
syndrome of the traditional military-industrial complex would suggest.
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"Soleo" <sol...@mail.ru> wrote in message
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Peg Smith
Coleman" <rama...@earthlink.net> writes:
>...You can make all the off color jokes about someone's race or religion that
>you
>want to. I would never think of suing you in court, no matter how offensive
>I
>thought your remarks were...
No, but in one of your first posts here you did threaten to use your "powers"
to incinerate those who had the gall to make fun of Ramashithead.
Peg
JackGierC
>advanced over a million men into the steppes south of Stalingrad, on
>the way to the Caucusus in a futile bid to get at the oil reserves
>there.....
> rather than concentrating all of the available forces at
>cutting the arterial north south soviet supply line (at Stalingrad on
>the bend of the Volga), in which event the whole Russian war machine
>would have collapsed,
Perhaps,but Hitler's crucial error was in the fall of 1941by not moving
straight for Moscow when he had a golden opportunity.
He allowed the Russians to bring in their tough Siberian troops and
counterattack.At any rate Hitler as a strategist was an idiot.
Bill Vanek
wrote:
>"Bill Vanek" <bilv...@softcom.net> wrote in message
>news:3dcbcc7f...@news.softcom.net...
>> On Fri, 08 Nov 2002 12:32:39 GMT, "tadperry" <tadp...@attbi.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >No, it's not blank. It may be being censored depending on how you read
>news.
>> >
>> >The thing to do under outlook express is call up your service provider,
>ask
>> >for the proper settings on the "Tools" --> "Accounts" --> "News" -->
>> >"Properties" page. Set up a connection to an uncensored server. That
>server
>> >will show up on your "Folders" view to the left. Click there and you will
>> >get a screen to add newsgroups. This way you don't need to travel to a
>> >website or use any sort of middle-man whatsoever.
>> >
>> >It was actually very interesting. I assume google did not censor it. Look
>> >there if it's not happening too often and you want to keep with what
>you're
>> >used to.
>>
>> Jesus...
>
>As in it's odd I found it interesting?
No.
JackGierC
>>stupor.
Since he found Jesus he has been sober.Know anything about his religious
views-pretty scary stuff unless you want the final battle between good and evil
to be a now kinda thing.
Then guess who is gonna return?
Just ask Jerry Falwell.
What's your definition of insane?<G>
Peg Smith
Coleman" <rama...@earthlink.net> writes:
>...Any true liberal believes in freedom of speech for everyone...
So, Irish Mike DOES have a right to express his opinion about who should be
killfiled? Since it is merely that, an opinion, not a governmental edict that
must be followed, you certainly agree to his right to express that opinion,
correct?
Peg
Bruno
"When the topic is sufficiently important, I start on new thread on
off-topic subjects. The fact that many poster participate in some of my
off-topic threads is clear proof that this material is off interest to
many RGP members."
Um no. Most people respond just to tell you that your views are extreem,
and they dissagree with them. There is no true dialog/debate. Mostly
becuase you are not open to ideas, but only open to those who agree with
your views.
"You are a fascist pig and a traitor, because you think trying to silence
or
censor others is a legitimate use of you free speech rights. It is not a
legitimate use, it is abuse."
Not trying to censor you. Just telling you to take it to the right place.
This ain't it for the "bush is a murderer" rant.
"You make a big deal out of me calling you a faggot. I notice that you do
not
deny the charge. I call you a faggot because it is obvious that you are
not a real man. I do not know whether you like to have other men fuck you
in the ass."
Man, there you go again on the "faggot" thing! You are really hung up on
the "men and the butt" thing.....
"When I am not busy refuting the nonsensical off-topic nonsense of others,
I make very solid poker posts, as you can verify if you gather all my
posts and go through them."
I've read some of your poker posts, and I've watched you play. And,
frankly you are neither good at talking about poker or playing it.
"It is my decision, not yours, how much off-topic material I post, and
when. Please stop trying to tell me how to live my life, when you do not
possess the faculty of rational thought."
There's that narciscistic, "all others bow to me", thing comming out
again.......
But (only one 't' Bill, so don't get too excited!), you've succeeded in
one of your aims: pissing me off. I am truly serious when I say that if
our paths cross, it shall be a joyous occasion for me, but not for you.
William Coleman
busy thinking up your snide remarks, you have not bothered to read my posts. I
have always said that Irish Mike, or anyone else has a perfect right to try to
curtail the free speech rights of others. My only point has been that such use
of free speech is an abuse of free speech. Please see my post "Ramashiva on
Censorship" for more details.
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"Peg Smith" <pegsm...@aol.comnocrap> wrote in message
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William Coleman
where I made this threat, or admit you are a liar.
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"Peg Smith" <pegsm...@aol.comnocrap> wrote in message
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William Coleman
three posts?
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"Peg Smith" <pegsm...@aol.comnocrap> wrote in message
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William Coleman
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"Bruno" <thebrun...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 8 2002 1:43PM, William Coleman wrote:
>
> "When the topic is sufficiently important, I start on new thread on
> off-topic subjects. The fact that many poster participate in some of my
> off-topic threads is clear proof that this material is off interest to
> many RGP members."
>
> Um no. Most people respond just to tell you that your views are extreem,
> and they dissagree with them. There is no true dialog/debate. Mostly
> becuase you are not open to ideas, but only open to those who agree with
> your views.
You are such a liar. Read any of my long threads and you will see plenty of
dialog and interchange of ideas. Just because you hate me does not mean
everyone does. Why do you fascists always think that everyone agrees with
you??? I certainly don't think that way.
>
> "You are a fascist pig and a traitor, because you think trying to silence
> or
> censor others is a legitimate use of you free speech rights. It is not a
> legitimate use, it is abuse."
>
> Not trying to censor you. Just telling you to take it to the right place.
> This ain't it for the "bush is a murderer" rant.
It is not your place to tell me to take anything anywhere. This is an
unmoderated newsgroup. Why do you continually harrass me about the
inappropriateness of my posts. If you don't like them, don't read them. Others
are very interested in what I have to say. Stop trying to disrupt our
conversations.
>
> "You make a big deal out of me calling you a faggot. I notice that you do
> not
> deny the charge. I call you a faggot because it is obvious that you are
> not a real man. I do not know whether you like to have other men fuck you
> in the ass."
>
> Man, there you go again on the "faggot" thing! You are really hung up on
> the "men and the butt" thing.....
Yes, I do have a big thing about it, and so does God. He made that quite clear
when he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah with fire and brimstone. Do you think the
modern day faggots will get off any easier. You faggots and faggot sympathizers
make me want to regurgitate. I am now convinced that you are a faggot, but will
not admit it.
>
> "When I am not busy refuting the nonsensical off-topic nonsense of others,
> I make very solid poker posts, as you can verify if you gather all my
> posts and go through them."
>
> I've read some of your poker posts, and I've watched you play. And,
> frankly you are neither good at talking about poker or playing it.
You are pathetic beyond words. When have you watched me play, and where???
What are your qualifications for even having an opinion about my play or my
writing.
>
> "It is my decision, not yours, how much off-topic material I post, and
> when. Please stop trying to tell me how to live my life, when you do not
> possess the faculty of rational thought."
>
> There's that narciscistic, "all others bow to me", thing comming out
> again.......
How is it narcissistic for me to tell you to fuck off and let me live my own
life??? It is you who are narcissistic, not me. You cannot believe that I
would so summarily dismiss you as a brain-dead idiot.
>
> But (only one 't' Bill, so don't get too excited!), you've succeeded in
> one of your aims: pissing me off. I am truly serious when I say that if
> our paths cross, it shall be a joyous occasion for me, but not for you.
AS I HAVE TOLD YOU BEFORE, TELL ME WHEN AND WHERE, AND YOUR CHOICE OF WEAPONS,
AND I WILL BE THERE. OR COME VISIT ME, YOU HAVE MY ADDRESS. YOU REMIND ME OF
THESE PENCIL NECKED NERDS WHO VERBALLY ABUSE ME IN REAL WORLD POKER ROOMS
BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE I WILL DO NOTHING WITH SECURITY GUARDS AROUND. I HAVE
BITCH-SLAPPED MORE THAN ONE OF THESE IDIOTS SO BADLY THAT THEY HAD TO BE
HOSPITALIZED. DO YOU THINK I GIVE A SHIT IF I GET EIGHTY-SIXED, OR EVEN
ARRESTED??? LOL.
William Coleman
interest in George's religious views. I am very sceptical that he is in contact
with Jesus or God. All of his policies are directly contrary to the explicit
teachings of Jesus Christ.
WTF does Jerry Falwell have to do with anything. As far as the final battle
between good and evil being a now kinda thing -- it already is. The battle is
already joined. I came on this forum and was immediately attacked by satanic
posters like jimpepper. I proclaimed my allegiance to Jesus Christ and asked
for support from any real Christians who might be reading my posts. To date, no
one has come to my defense, or stated that Jesus Christ is their Lord and
Master. Apparently RGP is a hotbed of arrogant atheists.
I think I have found a fertile ground for my work. All of you godless atheists
have two choices -- Bend your knee, bow your head, and acknowledge Jesus Christ
as your Lord and Master. The other choice is a swim in the Lake of Eternal
Fire. There is no third choice. Whether you believe any of this or not is
irrelevant. God does not take kindly to blasphemous, profane atheists who are
so arrogant that they will not acknowledge any power superior to themselves.
My definition of insanity is a mental state in which the insane person cannot
distinguish between fantasy and reality. I have no problem making that
distinction. Do you?
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"JackGierC" <jack...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Tony H.
> William, William, William. You were doing so well at 9:52 when you replied
> to my post about RPG and Jack Handy. Here it is 12:35 and you halved wigged
> out once again.
>
> Follow along with me now as I try to talk you down from this . (that's what
> the older kids called it when they had a bad trip back in the 70s). Take a
> few deep breaths and read along with me.
>
> "William Coleman" <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote
>
> 3a. If you are refering to Guantanemo you need to send me some of that
> shit you're
> smoking. It sure beats anything I've ever had.
> These people, for the vast majority, are far from innocent. On top
> of that , they are
> better fed and have better medical treatment than the Taliban and
> Osama provided
> them with. The truely innocent are already being released.
Hi Craig,
Just being nitpicky... :) I'd just like to point out, the fact that
the prisoners in Guantanemo are better fed and have better medical
treatment than the Taliban and Osama provided them with has nothing to
do with whether it's right or wrong to detain them. This would be like
arguing if a poor person robbed a store, putting the poor person in
jail is ok, because "on top of that (robbing the store), the poor
person is being better fed". The decision to put the poor person in
jail should not depend on the fact that he is poor. I'm sure this is
what you meant, but you included the fact that the prisoners in
Guantanemo are better fed in your statement, like it's part of your
argument. It looks good and makes people tend to support the
imprisonment of the prisoners there, but in reality it has no bearing
on if they are rightfully being held or not.
> > I see Bush and Hitler as very similar figures. Both are insane. Both are
> > fascist pigs. Both are mass murderers. Oh, you don't consider dropping
> 2000
> > pound bombs on innocent people in Afghanistan mass murder? There are two
> big
> > differences between Hitler and Bush. Hitler was extremely intelligent and
> a
> > great public speaker. Bush is as dumb as a stick, and mangles the English
> > Language every time he opens his mouth.
>
> There were, no doubt, innocents killed in the bombing of Afganistan. The
> figures are disputed depending upon whose did the counting. Do this, take
> the highest figure and multiply it by 100. Then compare that to the figure
> the Taliban killed because they wanted to go to school, or their beard was
> too short, or a glimpse of their wrist flashed, or simply because they had a
> viagiana instead of a penis. Then compare that first figure with the
> millions upon millions we kept from starving to death. We delivered tons,
> upon tons, upon tons of food to those poor peaseants William. You
> accusations are ridiculious.
Another point, we delivered tons and tons of food because we bombed
the country, we have a moral responsiblity to do that. We didn't
deliver the food because of the poor peasants. I'm just saying this
because many people might mistakenly think that delivering tons and
tons of food makes the bombing of a country ok. The bombing of a
country being correct or not should be decided based on the reasons
for the bombing. The fact that we kept millions from starving has
nothing to do with if the bombing is correct or not. We could have
kept millions of people from starving without doing any bombing.
Don't get me wrong, I like the US! It's far from perfect but it's one
of the best countries in the world currently, I think. :)
- Tony
> > Oh, two other differences. First, Hitler served honorably in the German
> Army in
> > World War I, and was decorated with two Iron Crosses, the highest military
> honor
> > in Germany. Bush avoided service in Viet Nam by joining the Air National
> Guard,
> > then went AWOL for over a year, which constitutes desertion. Second,
> Hitler
> > never used alcohol or any other drugs. Bush spent most of his adult life
> in
> > either a cocaine haze or an alcoholic stupor.
>
> Another one for you on the military.
>
> As to the drug use, maybe Hitler should have smoked a joint now and then.
>
> Get some sleep.
>
>
>
> >
James L. Hankins
"William Coleman" <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:KlVy9.1488$tW4.1...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> I will make it as simple as possible. This is an unmoderated usenet
newsgroup.
> It is not a poker newsgroup. It is a newsgroup for poker players. Poker
> players discuss many other topics besides poker. Any topic of interest to
poker
> players is suitable for inclusion in this newsgroup. Many other posters
besides
> me post a lot of off-topic material. Most of my off-topic material starts
as a
> response to the off-topic material of others. When the topic is
sufficiently
> important, I start on new thread on off-topic subjects. The fact that
many
> poster participate in some of my off-topic threads is clear proof that
this
> material is off interest to many RGP members.
>
> You are a fascist pig and a traitor, because you think trying to silence
or
> censor others is a legitimate use of you free speech rights. It is not a
> legitimate use, it is abuse. Please see my post "Ramashiva on
Censorship", for
> a clear, compelling argument for why all censors and would be censors are
> totalitarian fascists.
>
> You make a big deal out of me calling you a faggot. I notice that you do
not
> deny the charge. I call you a faggot because it is obvious that you are
not a
> real man. I do not know whether you like to have other men fuck you in
the ass.
>
> When I am not busy refuting the nonsensical off-topic nonsense of others,
I make
> very solid poker posts, as you can verify if you gather all my posts and
go
> through them. It is my decision, not yours, how much off-topic material I
post,
> and when. Please stop trying to tell me how to live my life, when you do
not
> possess the faculty of rational thought.
>
>
> --
> William Coleman (ramashiva)
> homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
> windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
>
> IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
> IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
>
> Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow
me.
> -- Jesus Christ
> "Bruno" <thebrun...@aol.com> wrote in message
Peg Smith
Coleman" <rama...@earthlink.net> writes:
>...Apparently you have been so
>busy thinking up your snide remarks, you have not bothered to read my posts...
Yes, indeed, you hit that one right on the head. I don't have TIME to read your
posts. Jesus, you crank out more words per day than Stephen King, and you're
just as repetitive. And, frankly, I'm not much interested in your religious or
political views. (As others have pointed out to you, there are more appropriate
forums for those discussions.) However, since you seem to think you're King
Shit on Turd Mountain, it's fun to skim through them and catch your
hypocracies, one of them being that it's not an abuse of our free speech rights
to express the opinion that it would be nice if you'd shut the fuck up, nor to
offer pointers to others on how to "turn you off" so that they don't have to
listen.
>... Please see my post "Ramashiva on
>Censorship" for more details.
No.
Peg
Peg Smith
> Coleman" <rama...@earthlink.net> writes:
>
> >...You can make all the off color jokes about someone's race or religion
that
> >you
> >want to. I would never think of suing you in court, no matter how offensive
> >I
> >thought your remarks were...
>
> No, but in one of your first posts here you did threaten to use your "powers"
> to incinerate those who had the gall to make fun of Ramashithead.
>
> Peg
In article <7x2z9.2247$tW4.2...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>, "William
Coleman" <rama...@earthlink.net> writes:
>I have never made any such threat and you know it. Please produce the post
>where I made this threat, or admit you are a liar.
From: ramashiva (rama...@earthlink.net)
Subject: do not flame ramashiva
Date: 2002-10-09 02:45:09 PST
...Another reason to avoid flame wars with ramashiva is that he is, among
many other titles, "High Priest of the Virgin Mary on Planet Earth". In
this capacity, ramashiva is able to call down fire and brimstone from
heaven and incinerate anyone who irritates him.
A final reason to avoid flame wars with ramashiva is that he is a close
friend and associate of Osama Bin Laden. If you flame ramashiva, Osama
will want to know your street address so he will know where to send the
next airplane.
From: William Coleman (rama...@earthlink.net)
Subject: Re: DaVoice and Abusive Email
Date: 2002-10-25 22:06:43 PST
What are you saying, Darryl? You want me to blow up something big as a
demonstration of the ability of the High Priest of the Virgin Mary to call
down Fire and Brimstone from Heaven and incinerate anyone who irritates him?...
zorn gottes
> Well,
> Have you ever heard of a book called Rattenkrieg, or as translated,
> War of the rats? You should read it. It is almost entirely about the
> battle of Stalingrad and tells what really happened there, instead of
> your inaccurate post here.
>
> First you say that this was a battle over oil. While there may have
> been a touch of truth to that, as Stalingrad was ocassionally called
> the gateway to the Crimean, it by no means was a battle over oil.
>
HI GERRY !!
Didn't say Stalingrad was a battle over oil. Said that the Germans
should have concentrated all their available forces in the area on
cutting the soviet supply line ( Volga river ) at Stalingrad.... Look
at a map, and you notice that this city is the most westward bend of
the Volga. Said that Hitler's mistake was committing too many forces
to the south of this point, trying to get at oil in the caucusus.
Stalingrad was largely a battle of Vanity. Between Stalin and Hitler.
> Hitler wanted to smash STALINgrad mostly because of the blow he felt
> it would do to the morale of the red army, and the personal insult it
> would deliver to Stalin. Stalin decided to protect Stalingrad at ALL
> costs, including the sacrafice of every single person in the city, or
> the armies surrounding it.
The important thing, as I stated above, was getting control of the
Volga.
Don't know about that personal insult stuff.....
>
> Hitlers officers frequently asked him to allow them to dig in, that
> is, to plant their camps for the winter, and were routinely denied.
> By the time that they finally hit the dead of winter and tried to dig
> in, to construct adequate fortifications for their camps, the ground
> was frozen, which made it impossible for the Germans to fortify their
> positions.
>
> As far as oil, Hitler already had an adequate supply coming from
> Romanian oilfields,and certainly did not need to capture the city of
> Stalingrad to forge his way into the Ukraine, and lower Crimean
> oilfields.
Indeed. But what are you talking about, forge into the Ukraine ??
Look at a map Gerry.
>
> Incidentally, 200,000 were not sacrificed. Actually the number was
> higher and there were 650,000 German POWs taken there. There was no
> reall mass retreat. Most of them were captured or killed and if they
> were captured, then they were very likely not to make it home ever
> again, as the Russians were just as ruthless on them as the Germans
> had been.
The retreat I was talking about was of the body of Army Group South,
to the south of Stalingrad.... after the sixth army was encircled by x
number of soviet armies on November 19-22 the possibility loomed that
the Soviets could cut off the whole of Army Group South as well, and
it was in the context of this that the sixth army was 'sacrificed.'
The general staff reckoned correctly that the Soviets wouldn't budge
from their positions as long as the sixth army was trapped and didn't
try to break out in one direction or the other. But don't know where
the hell you get that 650 000 figure.... the whole of the sixth army
plus various foreign divisions (Rumanians, Italians ) wasn't more than
a quarter million. And some of those were flown out during the seige
>
> Later, you talk of terrorists, and seem to imply that we are just as
> bad as terrorists, because we took the time to strike back at them
> after they killed more than three thousand innocent people Sept. 11.
" Seem to imply " Yeah whatever.
>
> Still later.....you-through some fancy footwork of words, seem to
> imply that Bush cant really say who we are against in the war on
> terrorism, because to do so would make some people in the world
> uncomfortable. Perhaps you are saying that we should just come out
> and say what countries you are talking about here.
" Seem to imply " " Fancy footwork"
Gerry, respond to my arguments if you want. Don't make assumptions
about what I seem to imply to you and go from there.....
Is Saudi Arabia on
> your list?
What list ??
It is painfully obvious that you just dont know how
> international relations and diplomacy work, or that you are just so
> fed up with hatred for the US goverment, that you cant seem to say
> what you really mean.
No hatred....
>
> Your writing really does put you somewhere near the company of
> klinton, since he never failed to try to amaze us with the bullshit
> that he uttered, although if you really analyzed what he said, he
> never really said anything at all. Kind of like your post here.
>
Uhhh, I think your post was the one that didn't really say much
beyond the history bit..... speculating about what I may know or not
know, but not posing any questions about the situation, or answering
any of my questions..... Alot of talk about "we"
Who is "we" ?? That I'd like to know.......
And when are you going to be in AC ??
Ciao love
MB
zorn gottes
Absolutely correct.
Around the end of July 41 the Germans split up their four leading
panzer columns, sending one north to cut off Petersburg, and one south
to cut off an army of 600 000 men at Kiev, and the other two for
Moscow. Historians argue convincingly that the Russians defending
Moscow would never have been able to handle a direct thrust from all
this armor put together, and that the whole of the Soviet Union would
have been cut in half north south by the end of 41....... Again I
think it is Hitler's obsession with the oil in the south that is
crucial to consider here.... Also, it seems he was much too concerned
with occupying territories, getting control of land, etc. rather than
delivering the knockout blow when it was possible to do so.........
Bruno
> You are such a liar. Read any of my long threads and you will see plenty of
> dialog and interchange of ideas. Just because you hate me does not mean
> everyone does. Why do you fascists always think that everyone agrees with
> you??? I certainly don't think that way."
I don't hate you cause you're beautiful. Personally, I find you a great
source of humour.
"It is not your place to tell me to take anything anywhere. This is an
> unmoderated newsgroup. Why do you continually harrass me about the
> inappropriateness of my posts. If you don't like them, don't read them.
Others
> are very interested in what I have to say. Stop trying to disrupt our
> conversations."
You need a little help with the definition of conversation.
"You make a big deal out of me calling you a faggot. I notice that you do
> > not
> > deny the charge. I call you a faggot because it is obvious that you are
> > not a real man. I do not know whether you like to have other men fuck you
> > in the ass."
> >
> > Man, there you go again on the "faggot" thing! You are really hung up on
> > the "men and the butt" thing.....
>
> Yes, I do have a big thing about it, and so does God. He made that quite
clear
> when he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah with fire and brimstone. Do you think
the
> modern day faggots will get off any easier. You faggots and faggot
sympathizers
> make me want to regurgitate. I am now convinced that you are a faggot, but
will
> not admit it."
Frankly, "me think thou doth protest too much". Heh. The Old Testement
"fire and brimstone" stuff is nice but, I prefer the New Testament
"forgive" stuff.
>
> >
"You are pathetic beyond words. When have you watched me play, and
where???
> What are your qualifications for even having an opinion about my play or my
> writing."
well, i write about poker, watched you play at Pstars....
> >
Don't go away mad bill....just go away
Gerry
> I do have a general distaste and contempt for law enforcement organizations,
> because most of them are so corrupt, and have a total disregard for the truth
> and the constitution. When someone breaks laws in a way that negatively impacts me, I always try to deal with the situation myself. When unable to do so, I have no compunction about turning my enemies in to the police, and letting the police and the courts deal with the situation.
Your hypocricy is showing here william. I mean, if you werent such a
sad person, this would almost be funny.
You dont have any porblem turning in your enemies to the so-called
"corrupt, lying, racist" police where you cant solve the problem?
Unbelieveable.
Funny how you have such distaste for the police, and view them as a
rogue organization, however, you have no problem feeding up people to
them who you feel have wronged you. Somehow I wonder if you would
turn in people who had different views than you, if you thought the
police would do anything to them.
You are truly one sad person. And if you are the person in the
picture that is going around, you are one of the most disgusting
people on earth, and belong in a freakshow.
Craig Permenter
"Tony H." <to...@thsoftware.com> wrote in message
news:d4bcb28.02110...@posting.google.com...
> > > Hi Craig,
>
> Just being nitpicky... :) I'd just like to point out, the fact that
> the prisoners in Guantanemo are better fed and have better medical
> treatment than the Taliban and Osama provided them with has nothing to
> do with whether it's right or wrong to detain them. This would be like
> arguing if a poor person robbed a store, putting the poor person in
> jail is ok, because "on top of that (robbing the store), the poor
> person is being better fed". The decision to put the poor person in
> jail should not depend on the fact that he is poor. I'm sure this is
> what you meant, but you included the fact that the prisoners in
> Guantanemo are better fed in your statement, like it's part of your
> argument. It looks good and makes people tend to support the
> imprisonment of the prisoners there, but in reality it has no bearing
> on if they are rightfully being held or not.
Hi Tony
If a poor person robs a store it IS OK to put that person in jail. More that
just OK. It is the right and responsibility of society and government to
separate criminals from law abiding citizens.
However, I respectfully disagree with your analogy. These people are not
criminals. They are soldiers of an entity that vows our destruction. While
in Guantanamo more than one has been quoted as saying they still wanted to
kill as many Americans as they could and will kill them any chance they get.
I was only pointing out that in many respects we treat them even better than
their own Lord and Masters. They were also afforded total religous freedom,
something Al Queda and the Taliban do not offer. They could pray to whomever
they wanted , whenever they wanted.
The USA is not "The Great Satan".
Delivering tons and tons of food does not make it OK to bomb a country.
However it does refute the assertation that we are similar to Nazi Germany.
They never delivered food to London . The Taliban never delivered food to
the Afganans. They actually killed starving people who ate it to keep from
starving.
JackGierC
>> straight for Moscow when he had a golden opportunity.
>>
>> He allowed the Russians to bring in their tough Siberian troops and
>> counterattack.At any rate Hitler as a strategist was an idiot.
>
> Absolutely correct.
> Around the end of July 41 the Germans split up their four leading
>panzer columns, sending one north to cut off Petersburg, and one south
>to cut off an army of 600 000 men at Kiev, and the other two for
>Moscow. Historians argue convincingly that the Russians defending
>Moscow would never have been able to handle a direct thrust from all
>this armor put together, and that the whole of the Soviet Union would
>have been cut in half north south by the end of 41....... Again I
>think it is Hitler's obsession with the oil in the south that is
>crucial to consider here.... Also, it seems he was much too concerned
>with occupying territories, getting control of land, etc. rather than
>delivering the knockout blow when it was possible to do so.........
>
I've even read that Hitler directed his panzers that were on the Moscow line up
to Petersburg and once they returned they were exhausted and completely fought
out.It was against the advive of his generals and that delay was fatal once the
fall rains reduced the roads to slop.
Then once again in 42 he split Group army A and the 6th panzer army sending one
toward the Baku oil fields and the other to Stalingrad resulting in the defeat
at Stalingrad and the forced withdrawl of the other in order not to be cut off
and isolated south of the Caspian and Black seas.
Adolph probably wasn't much of a chess player either.<g>
JackGierC
>interest in George's religious views. I am very sceptical that he is in
>contact
>with Jesus or God.
Then you do not know as much about Bush as you think you do or the influence
the christian right theology has on him.
>WTF does Jerry Falwell have to do with anything. As far as the final battle
Bush and Falwell think along much of the same line regarding The Rapture and
the second coming.
>I am very sceptical that he is in contact
>with Jesus or God
Who can say if he is or isn't?Who can say that the Pope is or isn't cause to a
protestant,muslim or someone that is jewish he ain't even close.
Bush thinks he is and that is the biggest influence on the way he sees the
world.
Do you mean to tell me that you don't know that Bush found Jesus and was reborn
after long conversations with Billy Graham some 15 years ago after a binge and
the after effects of alcohol abuse.
A lot of those reborns first get the jesus fever when they wake up with a
particularly bad hangover.It's like "help me lord" when they first open them
eyeballs in the morn.<g>
Sure beats alka seltzer and aspirin.
>There is no third choice. Whether you believe any of this or not is
>irrelevant. God does not take kindly to blasphemous, profane atheists who
>are
>so arrogant that they will not acknowledge any power superior to themselves.
>My definition of insanity is a mental state in which the insane person cannot
>distinguish between fantasy and reality. I have no problem making that
>distinction. Do you?
>
You and John Ashcroft have a lot in common.
Say hello to him next time ya see him at the next revival meeting.
Same thing goes for The Chimp.
Acesover
question. Thanks for your explanation though. Actually, I didn't read
everything you wrote there Billy Boy, but I'm sure it was out there for
sure.
Acesover
On Nov 8 2002 9:14PM, William Coleman wrote:
> It is not censorship or an infringement of my free speech for people to tell
me
> not to put down America and her policies. They also have free speech, and
have
> a perfect right to admonish and advise me in this way. When it becomes
> censorship and an infringement of my free speech rights is when posters on
2+2
> complain about my posts, and demand that I be barred. Now they are abusing
> their free speech rights by trying to infringe on mine. I don't want to get
> into a libertarian debate about 2+2 being privately owned, so they can do
> whatever they want, etc. Of course they can do what ever they want.
Censorship
> is censorship, whether it is practiced by the government or by private
parties.
> Similarly, Irish Mike and Abdul are perfectly free to put me in their kill
> files. I do not have a problem with that. I do have a problem when they
start
> urging others to put me in their kill files. Why should Irish Mike and Abdul
> care whether others read my posts or not??? Their attempts to get others to
> kill file me are once again an attempt to interfere with my free speech
rights,
> since they are attempting to convince others to ignore me. Why?? Because
they
> do not want others to hear the truths which I am saying. They are trying to
> censor me, pure and simple.
>
> Similarly, the people who incessantly complain about my off-topic posting
are at
> least incipient censors. They are trying to pressure me to stop posting
> off-topic material which offends them. If there was anyone they could
complain
> to to get me barred from RGP, is there any doubt in your mind that these
> off-topic complainers would demand that I be barred? The same exact
situation
> happened on 2+2, and Mason caved in to the pressure, and barred me. As long
as
> Matty Sklansky was the moderator, I was free to post whatever I wanted.
Matty
> just ignored all the complaints, which was the correct action as forum
> moderator.
>
> This same type of censorship is widespread in our society. It is mainly a
> right-wing conservative phenomenon, althought the left is also guilty in this
> area, particularly on college campuses. For example, when the movie "The
Last
> Temptation of Christ" came out, there were massive protests by right-wing
> Christian fundamentalists. Now protesting is certainly covered by their
rights
> to free speech. The point is, they were not just protesting the movie. They
> were trying to get the theaters to yank the film so no one could see it. It
is
> absolutely none of their business what movies other people watch. In a
society
> which values freedom of expression, they do not even have a right to have an
> opinion about what movies other people watch.
>
> Another example. Why are there no nationally syndicated liberal talk show
hosts
> on radio? Please don't say because there is no audience. You right-wing
> fanatics blithely assume you are the silent majority, when in fact you are a
> tiny minority. There are no national liberal talk show hosts, because the
> corporate controlled radio stations do not want the liberal point of view
being
> heard. Not only that, whenever a liberal talk show host appears on any radio
> station in the country, the station is immediately inundated with calls from
> angry right-wingers, demanding that the traitorous commie propaganda be taken
> off the air. Why do they even care??? If they don't like the show, they
should
> not listen to it. Why do they have to organize phone campaigns to drive the
> liberal talk show host off the air. Very simple. Because they are
totalitarian
> fascists, and do not want the truth about them and the Bush Crime Family to
> become general knowledge.
>
> If you doubt that this is what happens to liberal talk show hosts, I suggest
you
> contact Peter Werbe and Mike Malloy. They can provide you with detailed,
> documentable information on this matter. Peter and Mike are nationally
> syndicated talk show hosts who have experienced this right-wing censorship
> repeatedly. You can listen to their call-in talk shows every week day by
going
> to www.ieamericaradio.com and choosing one of the 24 kbps audio streams.
> Ieamerica Radio is 100% owned by the United Auto Workers. Peter is more of a
> classic labor socialist, and I do not agree with his socialist views, but I
> agree with all his devastating criticisms of the Bush Crime Family. Mike
Malloy
> is more of a classic left-wing liberal, and extremely humorous. Like me, he
is
> opposed to all gun control, even though he is a liberal. Both Peter and Mike
> are syndicated on a few radio stations around the country. I do not know how
> many, but some callers say they are listening on such-and-such radio station.
> Everytime IEAmerica Radio convinces a radio station to carry Peter and Mike,
the
> radio stations ratings increase dramatically. But an incessant phone
campaign
> also starts, demanding that Peter and Mike be taken off the air. This
fascist
> censorship campaign extends to calling all the radio station's advertisers
and
> demanding that Peter and Mike be silenced or the advertisers' products will
be
> boycotted. Almost always, the radio station caves in to the pressure. Now
the
> right-wing conservatives think they have a perfect right to engage in these
> activities. They certainly do, but the point is, they are abusing their free
> speech rights by trying to silence others. It is none of their concern or
> business what others listen to on the radio. When was the last time that you
> heard of a bunch of liberals trying to pressure a radio station to take Rush
> Limbaugh off the air??? Liberals just don't care whether people listen to
Rush
> Limbaugh or not. They know that Rush Limbaugh is a brain-dead idiot, and a
> compulsive liar. If people want to listen to Rush's spew, who cares??? You
can
> frequently see Peter and Mike on cable news channels, such as MSNBC and CNN.
> These news channels trot out Peter and Mike whenever they want a talking
head to
> represent the left-wing point of view.
>
> If all you listen to and watch are the right-wing, corporate-controlled
media,
> you have never heard the real liberal left-wing point of view. The right
wing
> and the corporate media are desperate to prevent the left-wing point of view
> from being heard. When the corporate media want a left-wing point of view,
they
> trot out some toothless whore like Dick Gephart or Tom Daschle. LOL. Dick
and
> Tom are neither liberal nor left wing. They are right of center Democratic
> politicians who bend over and take it in the ass whenever George Bush tells
them
> to.
>
> If you want to hear what real liberals and left-wingers think about the
current
> world situation, then start listening to Peter and Mike. You will swear that
> their scripted rants were lifted from a Ramashiva rant and rave. They did
not
> copy me, and I did not copy them. I independently came to all the same
> conclusions before I ever started listening to Peter and Mike.
>
> You can make all the off color jokes about someone's race or religion that
you
> want to. I would never think of suing you in court, no matter how offensive
I
> thought your remarks were. But I do think that joking about another person's
> race and/or religion is in extremely bad taste, and is not appropriate in
> civilized discourse.
>
> "Is it only free speech when it fits in with what the liberal-left wants to
> hear?" Of course not. Your criticism may have some validity on college
> campuses dominated by "liberal" students and/or "liberal" professors. I do
not
> regard such individuals as liberals, just because they say they are
liberals. I
> regard them as censorious fascists who are giving the word "liberal" a bad
name.
>
> Any true liberal believes in freedom of speech for everyone. Despite the
lies
> of the Idiot Gerry, the UN Policeman, the ACLU, for example, strongly
supports
> the right of free speech for everyone, even when they vigorously disagree
with
> the free speech in question. Gerry tries to make a case against the ACLU by
> listing a bunch of situations in which the ACLU does not defend someone's
> rights. First of all, the ACLU cannot be everywhere. You cannot fault them
for
> not defending a particular person. Second of all, if you look at the
examples
> of alleged rights that the ACLU does not defend, you will quickly see that
none
> of the people he talks about have any right whatsoever to do the things that
> Gerry talks about. For example, Gerry thinks students in a taxpayer-funded
> school have a right to public prayer in the schools and/or athletic events.
> They have no such right, because such public prayers violate the
constitutional
> separation of church and state. All of Gerry's examples are similar. He
> repeatedly chastises the ACLU for not defending someone's "rights", when
these
> rights only exist in Gerry's head, not in the U. S. Constitution. Check out
his
> post on this. You will see what I mean.
>
> The classic liberal, the French philosopher Voltaire, said it best -- I may
> disagree with every word you say, but I will defend to the death your right
to
> say it. The censorious right-wing conservatives in this country clearly do
not
> agree with Voltaire on this point.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> William Coleman (ramashiva)
> homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
> windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
>
> IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
> IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
>
> Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
> -- Jesus Christ
> "Acesover" <anon...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> news:XtYy9.210750$Xw1....@news.easynews.com...
> > How come if your told to not put down America and her policies it's
> > censorship and an infringement on your free speech, but when I make an off
> > color joke about someone's race or religion, and I'm sued in civil court,
> > I'm being an insensitive pig?
> >
> > What, exactly, is free speech?
> >
> > Is it only free speech when it fits in with what the liberal-left wants to
> > hear?
> >
> > Acesover
> >
> > On Nov 8 2002 7:32AM, tadperry wrote:
> >
> > > "Bill Vanek" <bilv...@softcom.net> wrote in message
> > > news:3dcb6fc8...@news.softcom.net...
> > > > On Fri, 08 Nov 2002 07:31:51 GMT, "Deep Throat" <anon...@yahoo.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >How come when I try to open Mr. Coleman's posts they're all coming up
> > > > >blank? Has rgp_administration already started deleting his posts?
What
> > > a
> > > > >shame, I was looking for a laugh.
> > > > >
> > > > >Can anyone else see his posts?
> > > >
> > > > I'm having the same problem - all the recent ones are blank. WTF?
> > >
> > > No, it's not blank. It may be being censored depending on how you read
news.
> > >
> > > The thing to do under outlook express is call up your service provider,
ask
> > > for the proper settings on the "Tools" --> "Accounts" --> "News" -->
> > > "Properties" page. Set up a connection to an uncensored server. That
server
> > > will show up on your "Folders" view to the left. Click there and you will
> > > get a screen to add newsgroups. This way you don't need to travel to a
> > > website or use any sort of middle-man whatsoever.
> > >
> > > It was actually very interesting. I assume google did not censor it. Look
> > > there if it's not happening too often and you want to keep with what
you're
> > > used to.
> > >
> > > I personally think the Bush administration has gotten into "You can't
fool
> > > all the people all of the time" territory and when our administration is
> > > telling us to watch what we say, it's going too far.
> > >
> > > tvp
Gerry
Actually I didnt realize that this was you at first....I thought it
was that know nothing w. coleman.
> HI GERRY !!
> Didn't say Stalingrad was a battle over oil. Said that the Germans
> should have concentrated all their available forces in the area on
> cutting the soviet supply line ( Volga river ) at Stalingrad.... Look
> at a map, and you notice that this city is the most westward bend of
> the Volga. Said that Hitler's mistake was committing too many forces
> to the south of this point, trying to get at oil in the caucusus.
I have studied this a great deal. I am not convinced that Hitler was
wrong in this situation. Taking Moscow would have been a big victory
for him, but I believe with the rapid advance that the Nazis were
having, that taking Moscow was not going to be that formidable of a
task. How wrong he was. The Germans did advance to the outskirts of
the city, and within only 3 km or so of Leningrad-St. Petersburg, but
no closer. It certainly was a blunder of titanic proportion for him
to have been so presumptious to think that taking Moscow would be an
easy task.
> Stalingrad was largely a battle of Vanity. Between Stalin and Hitler.
> > Hitler wanted to smash STALINgrad mostly because of the blow he felt
> > it would do to the morale of the red army, and the personal insult it
> > would deliver to Stalin. Stalin decided to protect Stalingrad at ALL
> > costs, including the sacrafice of every single person in the city, or
> > the armies surrounding it.
>
> The important thing, as I stated above, was getting control of the
> Volga.
> Don't know about that personal insult stuff.....
Of course Hitler wanted the Volga, and access to Kazhakstan. He didnt
absolutely have to have Stalingrad however. It was widely known that
Hitler and Stalin were versed in a tragic game of one upsmanship with
each other, and It is believed that Hitler wanted to destroy
Stalingrad at least partly because he wanted to send a SUPREME insult
to Stalin.
> > Hitlers officers frequently asked him to allow them to dig in, that
> > is, to plant their camps for the winter, and were routinely denied.
> > By the time that they finally hit the dead of winter and tried to dig
> > in, to construct adequate fortifications for their camps, the ground
> > was frozen, which made it impossible for the Germans to fortify their
> > positions.
> >
> > As far as oil, Hitler already had an adequate supply coming from
> > Romanian oilfields,and certainly did not need to capture the city of
> > Stalingrad to forge his way into the Ukraine, and lower Crimean
> > oilfields.
>
> Indeed. But what are you talking about, forge into the Ukraine ??
> Look at a map Gerry.
No Mark. I know the area well. I am saying that he could have went
farther south in the Ukraine, and went into Kazhakstan without
necessarily taking Stalingrad. Stalingrad offered no particular
significance.
> > Incidentally, 200,000 were not sacrificed. Actually the number was
> > higher and there were 650,000 German POWs taken there. There was no
> > reall mass retreat. Most of them were captured or killed and if they
> > were captured, then they were very likely not to make it home ever
> > again, as the Russians were just as ruthless on them as the Germans
> > had been.
>
>
> The retreat I was talking about was of the body of Army Group South,
> to the south of Stalingrad.... after the sixth army was encircled by x
> number of soviet armies on November 19-22 the possibility loomed that
> the Soviets could cut off the whole of Army Group South as well, and
> it was in the context of this that the sixth army was 'sacrificed.'
> The general staff reckoned correctly that the Soviets wouldn't budge
> from their positions as long as the sixth army was trapped and didn't
> try to break out in one direction or the other. But don't know where
> the hell you get that 650 000 figure.... the whole of the sixth army
> plus various foreign divisions (Rumanians, Italians ) wasn't more than
> a quarter million. And some of those were flown out during the seige
I misstated myself.....I was talking about a conglomerate figure for
the battle...Anyway, the total number of German troops who found
themselves encircled was around 250-300 thousand. A lot of people in
any count.
> >
> > Later, you talk of terrorists, and seem to imply that we are just as
> > bad as terrorists, because we took the time to strike back at them
> > after they killed more than three thousand innocent people Sept. 11.
>
> " Seem to imply " Yeah whatever.
Not trying to mince words here. Again, I thought that you were that
guy coleman, who seems to take some sick sense of joy at us getting
our asses kicked by terrorists.
> >
> > Still later.....you-through some fancy footwork of words, seem to
> > imply that Bush cant really say who we are against in the war on
> > terrorism, because to do so would make some people in the world
> > uncomfortable. Perhaps you are saying that we should just come out
> > and say what countries you are talking about here.
>
> " Seem to imply " " Fancy footwork"
> Gerry, respond to my arguments if you want. Don't make assumptions
> about what I seem to imply to you and go from there.....
I am not certain what you are actually stating here. Whether or not
we are coddling some rogue nations in the world to preserve our
coalition, or what. I would ask for a clarification before I respond.
> Is Saudi Arabia on
> > your list?
>
> What list ??
Of nations that we are coddling, despite their own horrible human
rights record, because we need them in our camp vs. Iraq?
> It is painfully obvious that you just dont know how
> > international relations and diplomacy work, or that you are just so
> > fed up with hatred for the US goverment, that you cant seem to say
> > what you really mean.
>
> No hatred....
No Mark. I know that you dont. Again, I really thought that coleman
guy had wrote this and he certainly seems to.
> > Your writing really does put you somewhere near the company of
> > klinton, since he never failed to try to amaze us with the bullshit
> > that he uttered, although if you really analyzed what he said, he
> > never really said anything at all. Kind of like your post here.
> >
> Uhhh, I think your post was the one that didn't really say much
> beyond the history bit..... speculating about what I may know or not
> know, but not posing any questions about the situation, or answering
> any of my questions..... Alot of talk about "we"
> Who is "we" ?? That I'd like to know.......
> And when are you going to be in AC ??
> Ciao love
> MB
Generally when I say we, I am talking about the hardworking,
taxpaying, CONSERVATIVE majority that makes this country go round. Do
we have fringe conservatives? Yes. Are there fringe liberals? Yes.
Is there a majority of conservatives in this country? I think that
the balence of power here would indicate that there is. A somewhat
slim majority, but as we have seen in recent years, even the Democrats
are finding more and more of their people siding with the
conservatives on many issues. Even Reagan had the "Reagan Democrats",
and that was years ago.
Now as for my questions for you, so that we may continue this debate:
1. Do you belive that the US is currently coddling any countries that
have horrific human rights records just to keep the coalition
together? If so which ones?
2. Do you think that the US is wrong to pursue its war against
terrorism? Do you have any alternatives?
3. Do you think that fighting a war against murderous terrorists is a
righteous crusade? If your answer is that we are no better than them,
then please define how you would have responded to the Sept 11
attacks...
Answer these and we can then have a civil dialogue on this matter...
As for the AC thing, I will send you an e mail....
ciao
Gerry
Tony H.
> "Tony H." <to...@thsoftware.com> wrote in message
> news:d4bcb28.02110...@posting.google.com...
> > > > Hi Craig,
> >
> > Just being nitpicky... :) I'd just like to point out, the fact that
> > the prisoners in Guantanemo are better fed and have better medical
> > treatment than the Taliban and Osama provided them with has nothing to
> > do with whether it's right or wrong to detain them. This would be like
> > arguing if a poor person robbed a store, putting the poor person in
> > jail is ok, because "on top of that (robbing the store), the poor
> > person is being better fed". The decision to put the poor person in
> > jail should not depend on the fact that he is poor. I'm sure this is
> > what you meant, but you included the fact that the prisoners in
> > Guantanemo are better fed in your statement, like it's part of your
> > argument. It looks good and makes people tend to support the
> > imprisonment of the prisoners there, but in reality it has no bearing
> > on if they are rightfully being held or not.
>
> Hi Tony
>
> If a poor person robs a store it IS OK to put that person in jail. More that
> just OK. It is the right and responsibility of society and government to
> separate criminals from law abiding citizens.
Yes I agree, but the fact that he's poor and will be better fed in
jail has no bearing on if he should be put in jail or not.
> However, I respectfully disagree with your analogy. These people are not
> criminals. They are soldiers of an entity that vows our destruction. While
> in Guantanamo more than one has been quoted as saying they still wanted to
> kill as many Americans as they could and will kill them any chance they get.
>
> I was only pointing out that in many respects we treat them even better than
> their own Lord and Masters. They were also afforded total religous freedom,
> something Al Queda and the Taliban do not offer. They could pray to whomever
> they wanted , whenever they wanted.
> The USA is not "The Great Satan".
I agree with everything you say. It still does not matter if we treat
them better and give them religious freedom, the decision to imprison
them or not should not be influenced by the fact that we treat them
better. I'm just saying that if, for example (I'm making the facts up
for the sake of argument) someone asks "why is this Arab imprisoned":
1. He has plans for making a bomb on his computer
2. He communicated with Al Queda recently
3. He'll be better fed in prison than he was outside of prison, and
he'll also have total religious freedom
Reason 3 has no bearing to the argument of "innocents being
imprisoned".
Now, if you were arguing, "the Taliban's lifestyle is worse than the
US's", then yes, 3 would matter. Now, I agree the US isn't satan, and
I love the US! At no time did I say I did not like the US. :)
Yes I agree, Ramashiva's analogy is very VERY weak!
- Tony
> >
> > - Tony
> >
William Coleman
telling me to shut up, but efforts to silence me. Go back and read what I said.
You have the right to do these things, but it is definitely an abuse of free
speech to do so. See my post "RAMASHIVA ON CENSORSHIP".
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"Peg Smith" <pegsm...@aol.comnocrap> wrote in message
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William Coleman
GrannyMae and Lorinda.
Please show me where I ever threatened to incinerate anyone.
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"Peg Smith" <pegsm...@aol.comnocrap> wrote in message
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William Coleman
enemies. Anytime I can arrange things so that my enemies are in conflict and
causing each other problems, it seems to me that I can take a bow as a brilliant
strategist. I do not rely on the police for my personal protection. They want
to kill me, and I know that for a fact. They already tried once and failed. I
was shot twice at point blank range with a twelve-gauge shotgun by one of your
brave fellow policemen. I was unarmed with my hands in the air at the time. I
was thrown ten feet through the air. I got up off the floor and asked them why
they were trying to kill me when I was trying to surrender peacefully. That is
why the Clark County District Attorney told a judge that I was the most
dangerous man on the planet. One of you brave fellow police officers did his
best to kill me and failed. You pigs are such total cowards. Shooting an
unarmed man with his hands up. All pigs are cowards, and I know this for a
fact. You turkeys are only brave when you are in a pack, like a pack of wild
dogs. One on One? I have yet to meet a police officer with any balls. I have
no reason to think you are any different.
Newsflash, Gerry. The arrest report you are looking at is a complete forgery,
and the picture you are looking at is not me. You are a rather disgusting
person. If that picture really was of me, then you would insult the appearance
of a terribly deformed person such as the one pictured? You are pathetic.
By the way, if you are any kind of police officer, you should have figured out
by now that both the RJ news story and the police arrest report are complete
forgeries, with no basis in fact.
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"Gerry" <gerryi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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William Coleman
poker. A perusal of poker magazines over the last several years shows quite
clearly that most of the columnists know little, or nothing about poker.
You watched me play poker on PokerStars? When, and for how long? You are
probably like yoyodemojo, a beginner who thinks he is qualified to evaluate the
play of a fourteen-year professional. He played a few hands with me on Paradise
Poker, then immediately made a post on RGP informing everyone that I was a bad
player. He made a total fool of himself, because I published 300 hand histories
which included the hands he played with me. Anyone who knows anything about
poker can review these hand histories and verify that I am playing a strong
winning strategy against the kind of loose passive players I was playing
against.
There were three posts, all entitled "Ramashiva and yoyodemojo on Paradise
Poker" or something like that. Please review these hand histories and then tell
me what you think about my play. If you still insist that I play badly, then
for sure you do not know what you are talking about. Any number of posters on
RGP, including Lee, will tell you that.
With regard to faggotry, why do you think I protest too much? And please show
me anywhere in the New Testament where it says it is OK for men to fuck each
other in the ass? I guess you missed all the times Jesus said he was not making
any changes to God's eternal law. Forgive, my ass!!! You are very sick to
defend these degenerate perverts. And that is exactly what they are. Please
don't give me any politically correct bullshit about lifestyle choices. Are you
aware that well into the 1950's, homosexuality was classified as a mental
illness by all standard psychiatric references. This classification was only
changed because of pressure from the political correctness gestapo. The fact
remains, all faggots are mentally ill, degenerate perverts. You still have not
answered the question. Are you, or are you not a cock-sucking, ass-fucking,
HIV-infected, limp-wristed faggot who wants to change marriage into a domestic
union between two men who fuck each other in the ass????
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"Bruno" <anon...@aol.com> wrote in message
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William Coleman
posts to John Ashcroft, and ask him if he agrees with me about anything? As I
have asked other posters, what have you been smoking? Because I would sure like
to get some.
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"JackGierC" <jack...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Peg Smith
Coleman" <rama...@earthlink.net> writes:
>Oh, but the censorship efforts are an abuse of your free speech rights. Not
>telling me to shut up, but efforts to silence me.
Nobody who killfiles you is trying to silence you, you can post as much drivel
as you want to here. A killfile is a way to not read your crap, and is no
different than someone turning and walking away from you in "real life" so that
they don't have to listen. Neither plugging one's ears and walking away nor
killfiling are censorship.
Peg
zorn gottes
> have horrific human rights records just to keep the coalition
> together? If so which ones?
>
I don't know which coalition you're talking about there, but
certainly the USA supports and seeks support from many countries with
horrible human rights records...... Israel for one....... lately the
Russians seem to be rather in favor....... Turkey.....
2. Do you think that the US is wrong to pursue its war against
> terrorism? Do you have any alternatives?
My only point here was that the ideological/media campaign to
define the war in very pleasant good guy vs. bad guy terms is
misleading at best. "Terrorism" as I have stated already is a way of
carrying out war. Terrorism is war..... so to say there is a war on
terrorism is to say there is a war against those who fight in this
way...... Certainly I don't think the USA is "wrong" doing whatever
it does. "Wrong" or "Right" is uninteresting moralizing bullshit to
me. What interests me is understanding how the ideological war is
carried out, how the propaganda works, how the people in the states
are convinced that their cause is just, and more importantly, the
material and economic background to all this killing......
3. Do you think that fighting a war against murderous terrorists is a
> righteous crusade? If your answer is that we are no better than them,
> then please define how you would have responded to the Sept 11
> attacks...
>
>
There is in reality no such thing as a righteous crusade, whether or
not it is packaged up and sold that way or not. War is war is war is
war.... conquering, killing, destroying, controlling...... Do I
personally consider it a righteous crusade ?? No... I don't think in
those terms......
Whether "we" are better than "them" again is way too vague..... Don't
know either group well enough to say, and really, better or worse in
moral terms is sort of irrelevant.....
JackGierC
>to have been so presumptious to think that taking Moscow would be an
>easy task.
Ya'll are talking about two different years here 41-42.Moscow would have been
easy to take in 1941 if the Germans would have concentrated on that
objective.Once the Russians counterattacked and drove them back some fifty
miles in early December of 1941 that opportunity had vanished and for all
intents and purposes the Germans had already lost the war.
They just didn't realize it yet.
Gerry
> Where is the hypocrisy, Gerry? The police are my enemies. My enemies are my
> enemies. Anytime I can arrange things so that my enemies are in conflict and
> causing each other problems, it seems to me that I can take a bow as a brilliant strategist.
You are sad, sad, sad.....though you already know this.....
> I do not rely on the police for my personal protection. They want
> to kill me, and I know that for a fact. They already tried once and failed.
Yeah. Whatever you say looney tunes......
>I was shot twice at point blank range with a twelve-gauge shotgun by
one of your brave fellow policemen. I was unarmed with my hands in
the air at the time. I was thrown ten feet through the air.
Oh this is such a crock of shit. I guess that you are alluding to the
so called "knockdown power" of the bullets. I know this may come as a
shock to you, but there is no such thing.
>I got up off the floor and asked them why they were trying to kill me
when I was trying to surrender peacefully.
Oh.....after youi were shot point blank and then knocked 10 feet in
the air? Uh huh........
> That is why the Clark County District Attorney told a judge that I was the most dangerous man on the planet. One of you brave fellow police officers did his best to kill me and failed. You pigs are such total cowards. Shooting an
> unarmed man with his hands up. All pigs are cowards, and I know this for a
> fact. You turkeys are only brave when you are in a pack, like a pack of wild
> dogs. One on One? I have yet to meet a police officer with any balls. I have > no reason to think you are any different.
Like I said buddy boy.....whenever you are between jacking off
sessions and are ready for an ass kicking........
>
> Newsflash, Gerry. The arrest report you are looking at is a complete forgery,
> and the picture you are looking at is not me. You are a rather disgusting
> person. If that picture really was of me, then you would insult the appearance of a terribly deformed person such as the one pictured? You are pathetic.
Though by your own words here, the real meaning totally eluded you, I
will try to explain it to a mentally challenged person like you one
more time...
DIsgusting refers to someone as fucking pathetically sick as you.
Your ramblings are prime evidence, besides being arrested in a tree
jacking off.
Actual appearance is mostly meaningless in the context of this.
> By the way, if you are any kind of police officer, you should have figured out
> by now that both the RJ news story and the police arrest report are complete
> forgeries, with no basis in fact.
Whatever. Even if the report is a forgery I have seen evidence here of
you having been arrested in a tree, outside a womans house, jacking
off. Not to mention the mountains of evidence that you provide out of
your own mouth.
You are truly a demented, sad person. You think that the world is
against you, conspiring against you, and that you are the only world
with any sense. Asylums are filled with people just like you, and I
am sure that somewhere there is a padded room that has your name on
it. It wont take too much more to set you in motion toward it either,
you are becoming more and more delusional by the hour. All I can say,
is seek help before you hurt yourself, get shot by the police, get
shot by some ladys husband whose window you were jacking off outside
of, or whatever.
William Coleman
posts. I make it perfectly clear that everyone has a right to killfile me, or
anyone else. It is only censorship when individuals such as Abdul and Irish
Mike go on a campaign to convince others to killfile me. You are constantly
misrepresenting what I say, and it is becoming very obvious that you have no
intellectual integrity whatsoever. Quite falsifying what I say then arguing
with your false version.
--
William Coleman (ramashiva)
homepage: www.home.earthlink.net/~ramashiva
windows messenger: ramas...@hotmail.com
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
"Peg Smith" <pegsm...@aol.comnocrap> wrote in message
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William Coleman
LOL. You have finally shown yourself to be the complete phony that I already
knew you were. Gerry, I know this will surprise you, but shotguns do not shoot
bullets. Only someone who knew nothing whatsoever about firearms would ever
talk about shotguns shooting bullets. Since you obviously know nothing about
firearms, you other comments are irrelevant.
Also, it seems exceedingly strange to me that a real UN Policeman would threaten
to beat me up over a disagreement about politics. It is now quite obvious that
you are a right-wing fascist troll who has come to RGP for the express purpose
of harrassing me. Go away and get drunk with your fascist buddies.
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William Coleman (ramashiva)
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IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOU YIOS SOTER (corrupted version)
IESOUS CHRISTOS THEOS YIOS SOTERES (true version)
Sell all your possessions; give the money to the poor; and come, follow me.
-- Jesus Christ
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