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DaVoice

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Dec 30, 2009, 3:06:29 PM12/30/09
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The fucking blame-game is getting ridiculous here. I don't like the
direction that Janet Napolitano is taking Homeland Security, or the way that
many of the Administration's policies are affecting or going to affect us,
but BLAME THE FUCKING BOMBER not the administration!

Should he have been on the "no-fly list"? Yes, according to Obama. Was he?
NO! Therefore, let's put the blame for terrorism on the fucking MUSLIM
TERRORISTS.

This shouldn't be a political football, this should be an AMERICAN issue.

Partisanship is worse now than ever, and until there are people willing to
figure out that we all basically want the same things (the people, not the
people in power) this shit will never stop!

I say throw ALL OF THE BASTARDS out of the SENATE AND THE HOUSE and start
over with real citizens with real ideas on how to get where we want to be as
a NATION. The idea of a representative republic only works when your
representatives vote the way YOU want them to.

Thomas Jefferson said it best. "When the people fear the Government there
is Tyranny, when the Government fears the people there is LIBERTY".

RC


misanthropic whackjob

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Dec 30, 2009, 3:28:15 PM12/30/09
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These fucking terrorists have succeeded in changing out way of life. You
can't even get on a fucking airplane with a cup of coffee or a couple of
special beers you just bought. You have to take off your shoes, wait
hours in security lines, subject yourself to full body scans. It's all
bullshit. Time to start profiling. ALL terrorists are 20-40 year old
muslim males. Strip search and body cavity search all of them, and leave
the rest of us alone. They have accomplished their goal, they have made
the U.S. act like paranoid pussies.

As far as the senate and house: Yes, it is high time for all of those
assholes to be out on their asses, and we need a constitutional amendment
for term limits so nobody can spend 50 years in the senate anymore.

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BTSinAustin

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Dec 30, 2009, 3:33:15 PM12/30/09
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Hell yes to all above. I am willing to risk it. It is easier to fly out
of Jerusalem than Dallas Tex

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susan

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Dec 30, 2009, 3:27:21 PM12/30/09
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"misanthropic whackjob" <aca...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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I couldn't agree more.


ChrisRobin

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Dec 30, 2009, 3:48:53 PM12/30/09
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On Dec 30 2009 3:06 PM, DaVoice wrote:

> The fucking blame-game is getting ridiculous here. I don't like the
> direction that Janet Napolitano is taking Homeland Security, or the way that
> many of the Administration's policies are affecting or going to affect us,
> but BLAME THE FUCKING BOMBER not the administration!
>
> Should he have been on the "no-fly list"? Yes, according to Obama. Was he?
> NO! Therefore, let's put the blame for terrorism on the fucking MUSLIM
> TERRORISTS.
>
> This shouldn't be a political football, this should be an AMERICAN issue.

Terrorism is intended to have political consequences. By definition. Like,
duh.

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BTSinAustin

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Dec 30, 2009, 4:11:27 PM12/30/09
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On Dec 30 2009 3:06 PM, DaVoice wrote:

Hey, if people are letting you off the hook for owing Fell some money
because you claim to have fallen on hard times then surely we let the guy
with the bomb off the hook for trying to blow up an airplane because he
wasn't on a no-fly list.

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DaVoice

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Dec 30, 2009, 4:06:39 PM12/30/09
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"ChrisRobin" <a9d...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Dec 30 2009 3:06 PM, DaVoice wrote:
>
>> The fucking blame-game is getting ridiculous here. I don't like the
>> direction that Janet Napolitano is taking Homeland Security, or the way
>> that
>> many of the Administration's policies are affecting or going to affect
>> us,
>> but BLAME THE FUCKING BOMBER not the administration!
>>
>> Should he have been on the "no-fly list"? Yes, according to Obama. Was
>> he?
>> NO! Therefore, let's put the blame for terrorism on the fucking MUSLIM
>> TERRORISTS.
>>
>> This shouldn't be a political football, this should be an AMERICAN issue.
>
> Terrorism is intended to have political consequences. By definition. Like,
> duh.

I think that kinda proves my point. We let them win by using the issue as a
political football, rather than DEALING HARSHLY WITH THE FUCKERS!


Slim1Der

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Dec 30, 2009, 4:11:21 PM12/30/09
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On Dec 30, 12:28 pm, "misanthropic whackjob" <acae...@webnntp.invalid>
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I think I'm in love! This is the best post i've read in a long
time!!!
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misanthropic whackjob

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Dec 30, 2009, 4:47:52 PM12/30/09
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On Dec 30 2009 1:44 PM, O-PGManager wrote:

> > ALL terrorists are 20-40 year old
> > muslim males.
>

> lol, and i suppose you can pluck the 20-40 year old "muslim" males out of
> crowds considering they come in all races?

When boarding a flight last year I was behind a family...father, mother,
14 year old son, 9 year old daughter (ages are my guesses). White people.
The 14 year old was randomly ordered to the side to be frisked while the
family walked on ahead. They missed the fact that the son was asked to
step to the side (as was I, right behind them). The kid almost started to
panic until his family noticed he wasn't with them and came back. Opie, a
14 year old white kid with his family is NOT a terrorist. So, there's a
start.

>
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O-PGManager

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Dec 30, 2009, 4:44:09 PM12/30/09
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> ALL terrorists are 20-40 year old
> muslim males.

lol, and i suppose you can pluck the 20-40 year old "muslim" males out of


crowds considering they come in all races?

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O-PGManager

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Dec 30, 2009, 4:58:08 PM12/30/09
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On Dec 30 2009 4:47 PM, misanthropic whackjob wrote:

> On Dec 30 2009 1:44 PM, O-PGManager wrote:
>
> > > ALL terrorists are 20-40 year old
> > > muslim males.
> >
> > lol, and i suppose you can pluck the 20-40 year old "muslim" males out of
> > crowds considering they come in all races?
>

> Opie, a
> 14 year old white kid with his family is NOT a terrorist. So, there's a
> start.

You didn't offer a "start". You offered a "solution" - search only 20-40
year old "muslim" males. Even though a "muslim" can and will look like
ANYONE.

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Dec 30, 2009, 4:56:58 PM12/30/09
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The best, huh? I have a better solution. Drop all the regulations and
bullshit, let all of us carry whatever the hell we want to on a plane,
then a hijacker can be unceremoniously shot. One dude with a gun on
each of those planes would have prevented 9/11.

Follow :)

Adam

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Dec 30, 2009, 5:19:28 PM12/30/09
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On Dec 31, 7:28 am, "misanthropic whackjob" <acae...@webnntp.invalid>
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The problem with profiling is that they only have to find one agent
outside the profile to have a very high chance of success.

Bryan Kimmes

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Dec 30, 2009, 5:20:59 PM12/30/09
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On Dec 30, 3:06 pm, "DaVoice" <davoice...@cox.net> wrote:
> "ChrisRobin" <a9db...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> political football, rather than DEALING HARSHLY WITH THE FUCKERS!- Hide quoted text -

What scenario is more likely on new years eve?

You die in an act of terrorism...
You die in an auto accident...

O-PGManager

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Dec 30, 2009, 5:50:27 PM12/30/09
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On Dec 30 2009 5:19 PM, Adam wrote:

> The problem with profiling is that they only have to find one agent
> outside the profile to have a very high chance of success.

Exactly, there should and is different kinds of profiling that takes place
but it should be kept completely secret to have any benefit. The right
wing idiots want to proudly proclaim to the world "we only look out for
20-40 year old muslim males!"

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BTSinAustin

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Dec 30, 2009, 5:58:12 PM12/30/09
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On Dec 30 2009 5:50 PM, O-PGManager wrote:

> On Dec 30 2009 5:19 PM, Adam wrote:
>
> > The problem with profiling is that they only have to find one agent
> > outside the profile to have a very high chance of success.
>
> Exactly, there should and is different kinds of profiling that takes place
> but it should be kept completely secret to have any benefit. The right
> wing idiots want to proudly proclaim to the world "we only look out for
> 20-40 year old muslim males!"
>
> Opie-GManager
> Rec.Gambling.Poker
> Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator reporting to Mr. Popinjay

The Israelis profile based on how the perp is acting, nervous, dreaming of
virgins etc...

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WG

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Dec 30, 2009, 6:54:46 PM12/30/09
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TEST

1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by:
a. Superman
b. Jay Leno
c. Harry Potter
d. A Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40

2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by :
a. Olga Corbett
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d . Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c. Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old,
American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:
a. The Smurfs
b. Davey Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens , and a USNavy diver trying
to rescue passengers was murdered by:
a. Captain Kidd
b.. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. The Sundance Kid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
a. Richard Simmons
b Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
a.. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill's women problems
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to
take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US
Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers.
Thousands of people were killed by:
a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr Bean
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistanagainst:
a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
a. Bonnie and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people. They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone lest they be guilty of profiling.







Slim1Der

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Dec 30, 2009, 5:58:57 PM12/30/09
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Well played!

Bryan Kimmes

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> > I think I'm in love! This is the best post i've read in a long
> > time!!!
> > Slim
>
> The best, huh?  I have a better solution.  Drop all the regulations and
> bullshit, let all of us carry whatever the hell we want to on a plane,
> then a hijacker can be unceremoniously shot.  One dude with a gun on
> each of those planes would have prevented 9/11.
>
> Follow :)- Hide quoted text -

Say goodbye to cabin preasure when Plaxico puts a hole in the bottom
of the plane.

BTSinAustin

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Dec 30, 2009, 6:17:48 PM12/30/09
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Hands down, best post ever!

Bob T.

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Well played? One could use the very same logic to "prove" that only
the Pittsburgh Steelers ever win the Super Bowl. I actually agree in
general about our current airline security, but cherry-picking doesn't
prove anything.

- Bob T.

susan

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"Slim1Der" <mkmo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Martha Stewart was traveling somewhere with her MOTHER. Her mother was
*privately* searched (not just patted down). Her mother was one of 10 on
the flight thusly searched, and most were women, 9 were lily white and one
black male.

On the flight were at least 10 young mideastern males (she didn't know for
sure how many) None of them had anything more searched than standard.

We have neighborhoods here that we won't deliver pizzas to after dark.

Someone complained to the police - who were obligated to call us out on it.
We told the officer we would be glad to deliver there, and will be calling
the police station for an escort when we do. The officer laughed and said
something to the effect that he was just doing his job - continue as normal.


johnny_t

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Dec 30, 2009, 6:34:22 PM12/30/09
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On 12/30/09 2:59 PM, Bryan Kimmes wrote:

>> The best, huh? I have a better solution. Drop all the regulations and
>> bullshit, let all of us carry whatever the hell we want to on a plane,
>> then a hijacker can be unceremoniously shot. One dude with a gun on
>> each of those planes would have prevented 9/11.
>>
>> Follow :)- Hide quoted text -
>
> Say goodbye to cabin preasure when Plaxico puts a hole in the bottom
> of the plane.

Its the whole pressurization issue that makes these relatively tiny
explosives so dangerous.

Fortunately the terrorists are not quite good enough to pull this off.

Some day, a well educated whack job will be able to get the right
technology into the right hands. Fortunately there are a lot of
planes, so hopefully it will happen to the other guy.

Adam

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Dec 30, 2009, 6:41:38 PM12/30/09
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They will change targets. Derailing a high speed passenger train is
much easier and would probably cause the same amount of casualties.
So would a couple of guys walking into a packed mall and opening up
with machine pistols.
Their focus on planes is costing them quite badly

Clave

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"johnny_t" <nobo...@home.com> wrote in message
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> On 12/30/09 2:59 PM, Bryan Kimmes wrote:
>
>>> The best, huh? I have a better solution. Drop all the regulations and
>>> bullshit, let all of us carry whatever the hell we want to on a plane,
>>> then a hijacker can be unceremoniously shot. One dude with a gun on
>>> each of those planes would have prevented 9/11.
>>>
>>> Follow :)- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> Say goodbye to cabin preasure when Plaxico puts a hole in the bottom
>> of the plane.
>
> Its the whole pressurization issue that makes these relatively tiny
> explosives so dangerous.

In Hollywood, maybe. "Explosive decompression" is largely a myth.

Jim


Gary Carson

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:00:29 PM12/30/09
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who was that guy who blew up the federal building in OKC. You know, the
guy who was helped by a white farmer from Kansas?

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BTSinAustin

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Yup, myth busters tried it. It was on TV so it has to be true.

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misanthropic whackjob

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On Dec 30 2009 4:00 PM, Gary Carson wrote:

> who was that guy who blew up the federal building in OKC. You know, the
> guy who was helped by a white farmer from Kansas?

Perhaps if our fucked up government had left Koresh alone then "that guy
who blew up the building in OKC" wouldn't have retaliated.

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BTSinAustin

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On Dec 30 2009 7:00 PM, Gary Carson wrote:

> who was that guy who blew up the federal building in OKC. You know, the
> guy who was helped by a white farmer from Kansas?

Very true, but an outlier. I am willing to risk it

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Alim Nassor

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On Dec 31, 7:41 am, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
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Jim is correct. A bullet hole in a fuselage would be a minor
inconvenience. Whistling noise mostly, easily stopped by plugging it
with a piece of your blanket. Oh hell, how can we do that since they
wone even let me carry my 2 inch Buck on the plane.

Jerry Sturdivant

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:11:12 PM12/30/09
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Again you're being simplistic. "Dump all the politicians," will get you
nothing but more politicians. If you REALLY want something done, you have to
have major reform. McCain tried, but nobody listened.

"No politician can take a dime for reelection campaign. No politician can go
to work for any company that did business with the government."

These two items along would clean up politics. Along with allowing National
Referendums. But try to make that stuff happen.

Your simplistic "he was on a list," means nothing. There are multiple lists
and the compilations are too numerous to list.

Profiling? The enemy is not stupid (as noted by 9/11). You really think that
if we simply search 20 to 40 year old males, the enemy will give up and go
home? Hello? Even as we speak, they're using female bombers.

How about outlawing all outward expressions of religion? This, of course,
would include Christianity. Pray in private (Matthew 6:5-6) and keep your
religious crap and ceremonies in your religious buildings. Treat religion
like we presently treat pornography.

But gee, now we're goring your ox.


Jerry 'n Vegas

Gary Carson

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:21:13 PM12/30/09
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On Dec 30 2009 6:15 PM, BTSinAustin wrote:

> On Dec 30 2009 7:00 PM, Gary Carson wrote:
>
> > who was that guy who blew up the federal building in OKC. You know, the
> > guy who was helped by a white farmer from Kansas?
>
> Very true, but an outlier. I am willing to risk it

I don't know about those white farmers from Kansas. You should go to one
of their anti-government, "keep the government's hands off my farm
subsidies" rallies. Those guys are scary.

Plus a lot them drive 4wd trucks.

Alim Nassor

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:14:57 PM12/30/09
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And violating the First Amendment. Don't let that stop you, I've
read your posts regarding your contempt for the 4th.

Bob T.

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On Dec 30, 4:08 pm, "misanthropic whackjob" <acae...@webnntp.invalid>
wrote:

> On Dec 30 2009 4:00 PM, Gary Carson wrote:
>
> > who was that guy who blew up the federal building in OKC.  You know, the
> > guy who was helped by a white farmer from Kansas?
>
> Perhaps if our fucked up government had left Koresh alone then "that guy
> who blew up the building in OKC" wouldn't have retaliated.

Wow. And I suppose that if our fucked up government hadn't had troops
in Saudi Arabia, "the guys who knocked down the World Trade Center"
wouldn't have retaliated, either?

- Bob T

BTSinAustin

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:31:36 PM12/30/09
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On Dec 30 2009 7:21 PM, Gary Carson wrote:

> On Dec 30 2009 6:15 PM, BTSinAustin wrote:
>
> > On Dec 30 2009 7:00 PM, Gary Carson wrote:
> >
> > > who was that guy who blew up the federal building in OKC. You know, the
> > > guy who was helped by a white farmer from Kansas?
> >
> > Very true, but an outlier. I am willing to risk it
>
> I don't know about those white farmers from Kansas. You should go to one
> of their anti-government, "keep the government's hands off my farm
> subsidies" rallies. Those guys are scary.
>
> Plus a lot them drive 4wd trucks.

maybe we need to get them pissed at Muslims.

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James L. Hankins

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> Someone complained to the police - who were obligated to call us out on
> it. We told the officer we would be glad to deliver there, and will be
> calling the police station for an escort when we do. The officer laughed
> and said something to the effect that he was just doing his job - continue
> as normal.


The police were obligated to call you? You believed that?


James L. Hankins

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:30:36 PM12/30/09
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"Gary Carson" <garyc...@pokercultureblog.com> wrote in message
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> who was that guy who blew up the federal building in OKC. You know, the
> guy who was helped by a white farmer from Kansas?


Probably don't want that logic applied to profiling for serial killers.
That's a market pretty much dominated by white American males between 18-40.


misanthropic whackjob

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:41:21 PM12/30/09
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I also think the US Gummint should have left Randy Weaver the fuck alone.


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susan

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I did. They said they had to respond to the complaint.


Follow

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:46:07 PM12/30/09
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That's totally worse than a bomb going off or flying it into a building.
You're right.

Follow :)

Scott/sjakma

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On Dec 30 2009 7:09 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:

> On Dec 31, 7:41�ソスam, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>


> wrote:
> > "johnny_t" <nobod...@home.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:00f4fc41$0$6724$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
> >
> > > On 12/30/09 2:59 PM, Bryan Kimmes wrote:
> >

> > >>> The best, huh? �ソスI have a better solution. �ソスDrop all the regulations and


> > >>> bullshit, let all of us carry whatever the hell we want to on a plane,

> > >>> then a hijacker can be unceremoniously shot. �ソスOne dude with a gun on


> > >>> each of those planes would have prevented 9/11.
> >
> > >>> Follow :)- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > >> Say goodbye to cabin preasure when Plaxico puts a hole in the bottom
> > >> of the plane.
> >
> > > Its the whole pressurization issue that makes these relatively tiny
> > > explosives so dangerous.
> >

> > In Hollywood, maybe. �ソス"Explosive decompression" is largely a myth.


> >
> > Jim
>
> Jim is correct. A bullet hole in a fuselage would be a minor
> inconvenience. Whistling noise mostly, easily stopped by plugging it
> with a piece of your blanket. Oh hell, how can we do that since they
> wone even let me carry my 2 inch Buck on the plane.

Holy F***, you and Jim actually agree on something! :)

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Gary Carson

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Now that you mention it, that's probably true.

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"susan" <hotd...@charter.net> wrote in message
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> I did. They said they had to respond to the complaint.


What was the complaint? Refusal of pizza delivery? That is something to
which the police have to respond? In what wacky village do you live?


susan

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"James L. Hankins" <jhan...@cox.net> wrote in message
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LOL Columbia, TN. Thats what they said. Someone complained because we
had delivered at noon one time, but said no when they called at 8

There is even one neighborhood that we won't deliver to during daylight
hours.


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"James L. Hankins" <jhan...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Discrimination.
You can pick a distance. You can't exclude a neighborhood that would
otherwise fall within your delivery zone

>


Peg Smith

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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:21:13 -0800, "Gary Carson"
<garyc...@pokercultureblog.com> wrote:

>I don't know about those white farmers from Kansas.

Thinking of John Brown? :)

You should go to one
>of their anti-government, "keep the government's hands off my farm
>subsidies" rallies. Those guys are scary.

Peg

risky biz

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On Dec 30 2009 2:56 PM, Follow wrote:

> The best, huh? I have a better solution. Drop all the regulations and

> bullshit, let all of us carry whatever the hell we want to on a plane,

> then a hijacker can be unceremoniously shot. One dude with a gun on

> each of those planes would have prevented 9/11.

That's a brilliant concept. Two dozen armed Chuck Norris wannabes on a
pressurized airplane at 31,000 ft. I'm guessing Republican.

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On Dec 30 2009 1:06 PM, DaVoice wrote:

> The fucking blame-game is getting ridiculous here. I don't like the
> direction that Janet Napolitano is taking Homeland Security, or the way that
> many of the Administration's policies are affecting or going to affect us,
> but BLAME THE FUCKING BOMBER not the administration!
>
> Should he have been on the "no-fly list"? Yes, according to Obama. Was he?
> NO! Therefore, let's put the blame for terrorism on the fucking MUSLIM
> TERRORISTS.
>
> This shouldn't be a political football, this should be an AMERICAN issue.
>
> Partisanship is worse now than ever, and until there are people willing to
> figure out that we all basically want the same things (the people, not the
> people in power) this shit will never stop!
>
> I say throw ALL OF THE BASTARDS out of the SENATE AND THE HOUSE and start
> over with real citizens with real ideas on how to get where we want to be as
> a NATION.

I say let's get some REAL posters at RGP first.

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"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Sure you can. Just not on the basis of race. Driver safety is a perfectly
acceptable reason.


Follow

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risky biz wrote:
> On Dec 30 2009 2:56 PM, Follow wrote:
>
>> The best, huh? I have a better solution. Drop all the regulations and
>> bullshit, let all of us carry whatever the hell we want to on a plane,
>> then a hijacker can be unceremoniously shot. One dude with a gun on
>> each of those planes would have prevented 9/11.
>
> That's a brilliant concept. Two dozen armed Chuck Norris wannabes on a
> pressurized airplane at 31,000 ft. I'm guessing Republican.

Just like everything else in your life, Risky, you're wrong. Thanks for
playing though.

Follow :)

FL Turbo

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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:21:13 -0800, "Gary Carson"
<garyc...@pokercultureblog.com> wrote:

>On Dec 30 2009 6:15 PM, BTSinAustin wrote:
>
>> On Dec 30 2009 7:00 PM, Gary Carson wrote:
>>
>> > who was that guy who blew up the federal building in OKC. You know, the
>> > guy who was helped by a white farmer from Kansas?
>>
>> Very true, but an outlier. I am willing to risk it
>
>I don't know about those white farmers from Kansas. You should go to one
>of their anti-government, "keep the government's hands off my farm
>subsidies" rallies. Those guys are scary.
>
>Plus a lot them drive 4wd trucks.
>

Did they say they would go blow up an airliner if they didn't get
their way?

FL Turbo

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If serial killers went after airline passengers one by one, it might
not be a big problem.

If they went after a whole load of airline passengers at once, then
you got a problem.

But then, they couldn't qualify as serial killer either.

Oh, NeverMind.

I don't have a point to make.

FL Turbo

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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:00:29 -0800, "Gary Carson"
<garyc...@pokercultureblog.com> wrote:

>who was that guy who blew up the federal building in OKC. You know, the
>guy who was helped by a white farmer from Kansas?
>

Heh.
You just keep them Strawmen coming, don't you?

A Classic "Hey!! Look over there" diversion.

ChrisRobin

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On Dec 30 2009 4:56 PM, Follow wrote:

> Slim1Der wrote:
> > On Dec 30, 12:28 pm, "misanthropic whackjob" <acae...@webnntp.invalid>

> > wrote:


> >> On Dec 30 2009 12:06 PM, DaVoice wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> The fucking blame-game is getting ridiculous here. I don't like the
> >>> direction that Janet Napolitano is taking Homeland Security, or the way
that
> >>> many of the Administration's policies are affecting or going to affect
us,
> >>> but BLAME THE FUCKING BOMBER not the administration!
> >>> Should he have been on the "no-fly list"? Yes, according to Obama. Was
he?
> >>> NO! Therefore, let's put the blame for terrorism on the fucking MUSLIM
> >>> TERRORISTS.
> >>> This shouldn't be a political football, this should be an AMERICAN issue.
> >>> Partisanship is worse now than ever, and until there are people willing
to
> >>> figure out that we all basically want the same things (the people, not
the
> >>> people in power) this shit will never stop!
> >>> I say throw ALL OF THE BASTARDS out of the SENATE AND THE HOUSE and start
> >>> over with real citizens with real ideas on how to get where we want to
be as

> >>> a NATION. The idea of a representative republic only works when your
> >>> representatives vote the way YOU want them to.
> >>> Thomas Jefferson said it best. "When the people fear the Government
there
> >>> is Tyranny, when the Government fears the people there is LIBERTY".
> >>> RC
> >> These fucking terrorists have succeeded in changing out way of life. You
> >> can't even get on a fucking airplane with a cup of coffee or a couple of
> >> special beers you just bought. You have to take off your shoes, wait
> >> hours in security lines, subject yourself to full body scans. It's all
> >> bullshit. Time to start profiling. ALL terrorists are 20-40 year old
> >> muslim males. Strip search and body cavity search all of them, and leave
> >> the rest of us alone. They have accomplished their goal, they have made
> >> the U.S. act like paranoid pussies.
> >>
> >> As far as the senate and house: Yes, it is high time for all of those
> >> assholes to be out on their asses, and we need a constitutional amendment
> >> for term limits so nobody can spend 50 years in the senate anymore.
> >>
> >> --
> >> I don't care about you! Fuck you! -
FEARhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyM4uAJBujA
> >>

> - Show quoted text -
> >
> > I think I'm in love! This is the best post i've read in a long
> > time!!!
> > Slim
>

> The best, huh? I have a better solution. Drop all the regulations and
> bullshit, let all of us carry whatever the hell we want to on a plane,
> then a hijacker can be unceremoniously shot. One dude with a gun on
> each of those planes would have prevented 9/11.

Gun-toting nutcases firing willy nilly in a crowded airplane cabin, yeah!
What could possibly go wrong?

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On Dec 30 2009 8:11 PM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:

> Discrimination.
> You can pick a distance. You can't exclude a neighborhood that would
> otherwise fall within your delivery zone

I didn't realize there were lawns governing pizza delivery, lol.

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Beldin the Sorcerer

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"James L. Hankins" <jhan...@cox.net> wrote in message
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No, it isn't.
And the sad fact is, it's generally a racial neighborhood

>


johnny_t

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On 12/30/09 3:41 PM, Adam wrote:

> Their focus on planes is costing them quite badly

Really, they have about taken out the western world and the only super
power on a 50k investment.

It has cost us TRILLIONS.

It is one of the greatest routs in history. And we are the one getting
routed.

FL Turbo

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A long, long time ago, Mad magazine had a full page cartoon drawn by
Don Martens (sp?)

It was titled "One day on a Transatlantic Flight"

The top panel showed a drawing of an airline cabin populated by his
usual set of goofy looking characters.
They were all just sitting there.

The second panel shows the cabin with all of them standing up, with
each and every one of them with a pistol, rifle, shotgun or bomb.
They were all looking at each other.

The bottom panel showed them all sitting down.
The same drawing as the first one.

The strategy of giving every flyer a gun upon entering the cabin could
have worked during that time.

Unfortunately, we now have Jihadists who don't mind dying with all the
rest.

99% Muslims of course, irrespective of race or national origin.

No religious profiling allowed, of course.
Why, that would be raaaaacist wouldn't it?

johnny_t

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Dec 30, 2009, 11:34:07 PM12/30/09
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On 12/30/09 3:41 PM, Clave wrote:

>
> In Hollywood, maybe. "Explosive decompression" is largely a myth.

You've missed the point entirely...

Try looking up...

overpressure damage

And then there is what happened at lockerbie...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103#Explosion

johnny_t

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On 12/30/09 3:41 PM, Adam wrote:

> On Dec 31, 10:34 am, johnny_t<nobod...@home.com> wrote:
>> On 12/30/09 2:59 PM, Bryan Kimmes wrote:
>>
>>>> The best, huh? I have a better solution. Drop all the regulations and
>>>> bullshit, let all of us carry whatever the hell we want to on a plane,
>>>> then a hijacker can be unceremoniously shot. One dude with a gun on
>>>> each of those planes would have prevented 9/11.
>>
>>>> Follow :)- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>> Say goodbye to cabin preasure when Plaxico puts a hole in the bottom
>>> of the plane.
>>
>> Its the whole pressurization issue that makes these relatively tiny
>> explosives so dangerous.
>>
>> Fortunately the terrorists are not quite good enough to pull this off.
>>
>> Some day, a well educated whack job will be able to get the right
>> technology into the right hands. Fortunately there are a lot of
>> planes, so hopefully it will happen to the other guy.
>
> They will change targets. Derailing a high speed passenger train is
> much easier and would probably cause the same amount of casualties.
> So would a couple of guys walking into a packed mall and opening up
> with machine pistols.

> Their focus on planes is costing them quite badly


And lastly it is not about the casualties, it is about the ongoing
damage. Planes beat trains hands down.

Shit they have had fires in the chunnel and this hasn't stopped them.
Major terrorist attacks in the Tube and in spain. Relative bupkiss.

They have us spending millions looking at hazy naked people who have
never ever had a bomb. Spending millions of dollars, and as far as has
been told, TSA and their Ilk have never ever stopped a terrorist act.

But one guy lights his underwear on fire, costs Al Qaeda nearly nothing,
and it literally creates millions of dollars in damage and quakes at the
stability of our security infrastructure.

The terrorists are winning. We are letting them win.

BillB

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"FL Turbo" <noe...@notime.com> wrote in message
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> No religious profiling allowed, of course.
> Why, that would be raaaaacist wouldn't it?

Yes, it certainly would. What percentage of Muslims are terrorists? It
is an infinitesimally small number. In other words, if you give me a
random Muslim and a random white guy, the chance of either of them
being terrorists are, in practical terms, virtually equal (i.e. almost
0)

If Obama proposed a law that all white males between 20 and 40 submit
to preemptory DNA testing because they fit the racial and gender
profile of serial killers, would you be on RGP supporting that
proposed law?

Didn't think so.

James L. Hankins

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"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> No, it isn't.
> And the sad fact is, it's generally a racial neighborhood


Go back to posting your micro-limit bad beats, Beldin. You're much better
at that.


ChrisRobin

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On Dec 30 2009 11:29 PM, FL Turbo wrote:

> Unfortunately, we now have Jihadists who don't mind dying with all the rest.

There are plenty of disgruntled people, regardless of race or religion,
who wouldn't mind dying with all the rest.

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ChrisRobin

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You view this as a win for the terrorists, which is hard to argue with;
but it's also a monumental win for the military industrial complex.
Perpetual fear begets perpetual war, which begets perpetual profits...

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misanthropic whackjob

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then tell your arab muslim loons to stay the fuck in their own countries
and we'll leave them the fuck alone too, and that includes staying the
fuck away from israel

--
I don't care about you! Fuck you! - FEAR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyM4uAJBujA

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misanthropic whackjob

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I think every person living in the US or visiting the US should have a DNA
test, and that test should be put into a database. I also think every
person should have an rfid chip implanted. So yes, I'm on board with
that. Every baby born in the US from this point forward should have a dna
test put into a database.


--
I don't care about you! Fuck you! - FEAR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyM4uAJBujA

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Gary Carson

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I'd support the death penalty for males between 20 and 40

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Clave

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"johnny_t" <nobo...@home.com> wrote in message
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> On 12/30/09 3:41 PM, Clave wrote:
>
>>
>> In Hollywood, maybe. "Explosive decompression" is largely a myth.
>
> You've missed the point entirely...
>
> Try looking up...
>
> overpressure damage

What about it?


> And then there is what happened at lockerbie...
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103#Explosion

The word "overpressure" does not occur in that article.

Jim


Clave

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"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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That does not appear to be necessarily true.

Absent a law explicitly saying otherwise, this kind of redlining appears to
be legal under federal occupational safety laws preventing employers from
forcing employees into hazardous situations.

In any case, it's not cut and dried and is still being argued about.

Strangely, cabbies are explicitly exempt in San Francisco, and can be
charged with "failure to convey" and thrown into the pokey if they won't
drop someone off in a particular neighborhood. And the federal illegality
of financial redlining is pretty well-known.

Jim


BillB

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Dec 31, 2009, 1:33:47 AM12/31/09
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"misanthropic whackjob" <aca...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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> I think every person living in the US or visiting the US should have
> a DNA
> test, and that test should be put into a database. I also think
> every
> person should have an rfid chip implanted. So yes, I'm on board
> with
> that. Every baby born in the US from this point forward should have
> a dna
> test put into a database.

I don't think you have thought through all the consequences of that
course of action, but at least it would be uniformly enforced. That is
not the same as targeting one racial group because an infinitesimally
small percentage of that particular group has committed a crime.

What you are suggesting is more analogous with *everyone* (not just
one racial group) who wants to board a plane being subjected to a body
cavity search.

Just as an aside, what are the odds of my plane being blown up by a
terrorist? Would it be more or less than the chance being killed
driving to the airport? I think the answer at this time is to take
reasonable precautions (and make sure those precautions are taken
correctly, as they were *not* in this most recent case), and then just
assume the tiny remaining risk of being killed in a terrorist
incident. Going overboard on precautions is tantamount to letting the
terrorists win.

ChrisRobin

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Dec 31, 2009, 1:48:09 AM12/31/09
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On Dec 31 2009 1:07 AM, misanthropic whackjob wrote:

> > You view this as a win for the terrorists, which is hard to argue with;
> > but it's also a monumental win for the military industrial complex.
> > Perpetual fear begets perpetual war, which begets perpetual profits...
>
> then tell your arab muslim loons to stay the fuck in their own countries
> and we'll leave them the fuck alone too, and that includes staying the
> fuck away from israel

Way to miss the point. Spectacularly, I might add.

misanthropic whackjob

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On Dec 30 2009 10:33 PM, BillB wrote:

> "misanthropic whackjob" <aca...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:nqrt07...@recgroups.com...
>
> > I think every person living in the US or visiting the US should have
> > a DNA
> > test, and that test should be put into a database. I also think
> > every
> > person should have an rfid chip implanted. So yes, I'm on board
> > with
> > that. Every baby born in the US from this point forward should have
> > a dna
> > test put into a database.
>
> I don't think you have thought through all the consequences of that
> course of action, but at least it would be uniformly enforced. That is
> not the same as targeting one racial group because an infinitesimally
> small percentage of that particular group has committed a crime.
>
> What you are suggesting is more analogous with *everyone* (not just
> one racial group) who wants to board a plane being subjected to a body
> cavity search.

No, if your chip indicates that you have ever visited a muslim country,
you get searched. If your chip and its cross references show that nobody
in your family has any connection with muslims, you don't. You can do
lots with that info.

>
> Just as an aside, what are the odds of my plane being blown up by a
> terrorist? Would it be more or less than the chance being killed
> driving to the airport? I think the answer at this time is to take
> reasonable precautions (and make sure those precautions are taken
> correctly, as they were *not* in this most recent case), and then just
> assume the tiny remaining risk of being killed in a terrorist
> incident. Going overboard on precautions is tantamount to letting the
> terrorists win.

risky biz

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If you aren't a Republican you're certainly dumb enough to be one.

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risky biz

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Aren't you the one who wanted to nuke Israel right along with the Arab
countries next to them? I'm having trouble keeping up with your mood
swings.

risky biz

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On Dec 30 2009 2:44 PM, O-PGManager wrote:

> > ALL terrorists are 20-40 year old
> > muslim males.
>

> lol, and i suppose you can pluck the 20-40 year old "muslim" males out of
> crowds considering they come in all races?
>
> Opie-GManager
> Rec.Gambling.Poker
> Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator reporting to Mr. Popinjay

The voice of poker invested $88 in an online Muslim Identification
Self-Study course.

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"The explosion punched a 20-inch (0.51 m)-wide hole on the left side of
the fuselage, almost directly under the 'P' in Pan Am. The disintegration
of the aircraft was rapid.

Investigators from the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) were
lowered into the cockpit in the wreckage before it was moved from the
crash site and while the bodies of the flight crew were still in the
cockpit. They concluded that no emergency procedures had been started. The
pressure control and fuel switches were both set for cruise, and the crew
had not used their oxygen masks, which would have been required within
five seconds of a rapid depressurisation of the aircraft.[11][page needed]
Investigators from the Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB) of the
British Department for Transport concluded that the nose of the aircraft
separated from the main section within three seconds of the explosion."

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risky biz

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On Dec 30 2009 5:09 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:

> On Dec 31, 7:41�ソスam, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
> wrote:
> > "johnny_t" <nobod...@home.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:00f4fc41$0$6724$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...


> >
> > > On 12/30/09 2:59 PM, Bryan Kimmes wrote:
> >

> > >>> The best, huh? �ソスI have a better solution. �ソスDrop all the regulations and


> > >>> bullshit, let all of us carry whatever the hell we want to on a plane,

> > >>> then a hijacker can be unceremoniously shot. �ソスOne dude with a gun on


> > >>> each of those planes would have prevented 9/11.
> >
> > >>> Follow :)- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > >> Say goodbye to cabin preasure when Plaxico puts a hole in the bottom
> > >> of the plane.
> >
> > > Its the whole pressurization issue that makes these relatively tiny
> > > explosives so dangerous.
> >

> > In Hollywood, maybe. �ソス"Explosive decompression" is largely a myth.
> >
> > Jim
>
> Jim is correct. A bullet hole in a fuselage would be a minor
> inconvenience. Whistling noise mostly, easily stopped by plugging it
> with a piece of your blanket. Oh hell, how can we do that since they
> wone even let me carry my 2 inch Buck on the plane.

Did you know that most human beings require oxygen? Why do you think an
airline pilot does an immediate, sometimes dangerous, descent from high
altitude when there is a loss of compression?

________________________________________________________________________�ソス

risky biz

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On Dec 30 2009 2:47 PM, misanthropic whackjob wrote:

> On Dec 30 2009 1:44 PM, O-PGManager wrote:
>
> > > ALL terrorists are 20-40 year old
> > > muslim males.
> >
> > lol, and i suppose you can pluck the 20-40 year old "muslim" males out of
> > crowds considering they come in all races?
>

> When boarding a flight last year I was behind a family...father, mother,
> 14 year old son, 9 year old daughter (ages are my guesses). White people.
> The 14 year old was randomly ordered to the side to be frisked while the
> family walked on ahead. They missed the fact that the son was asked to
> step to the side (as was I, right behind them). The kid almost started to
> panic until his family noticed he wasn't with them and came back. Opie, a
> 14 year old white kid with his family is NOT a terrorist. So, there's a
> start.

You're right. He's only a citizen of a country whose middle name is
"murder".

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risky biz

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On Dec 30 2009 5:46 PM, Follow wrote:

> Bryan Kimmes wrote:


> > On Dec 30, 3:56 pm, Follow <lamemailna...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Slim1Der wrote:
> >>> On Dec 30, 12:28 pm, "misanthropic whackjob" <acae...@webnntp.invalid>

> >>>> --
> >>>> I don't care about you! Fuck you! -

FEARhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyM4uAJBujA
> - Show quoted text -
> >>> I think I'm in love! This is the best post i've read in a long
> >>> time!!!
> >>> Slim

> >> The best, huh? I have a better solution. Drop all the regulations and


> >> bullshit, let all of us carry whatever the hell we want to on a plane,

> >> then a hijacker can be unceremoniously shot. One dude with a gun on


> >> each of those planes would have prevented 9/11.
> >>
> >> Follow :)- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > Say goodbye to cabin preasure when Plaxico puts a hole in the bottom
> > of the plane.
>

> That's totally worse than a bomb going off or flying it into a building.
> You're right.
>
>
>
> Follow :)

Is it worse than landing at your planned destination because there was no
good reason for a bunch of dumbshits to start shooting when someone pulled
a blanket over their head?

Jesus- you're as dumb as Mo.

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risky biz

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On Dec 30 2009 3:58 PM, BTSinAustin wrote:

> On Dec 30 2009 5:50 PM, O-PGManager wrote:
>
> > On Dec 30 2009 5:19 PM, Adam wrote:
> >
> > > The problem with profiling is that they only have to find one agent
> > > outside the profile to have a very high chance of success.
> >
> > Exactly, there should and is different kinds of profiling that takes place
> > but it should be kept completely secret to have any benefit. The right
> > wing idiots want to proudly proclaim to the world "we only look out for
> > 20-40 year old muslim males!"


> >
> > Opie-GManager
> > Rec.Gambling.Poker
> > Assistant Newsgroup Coordinator reporting to Mr. Popinjay
>

> The Israelis profile based on how the perp is acting, nervous, dreaming of
> virgins etc...

. . . pissed off because they murdered most of his family, etc.

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On Dec 30 2009 2:06 PM, DaVoice wrote:

> "ChrisRobin" <a9d...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:luqs07x...@recgroups.com...


> > On Dec 30 2009 3:06 PM, DaVoice wrote:
> >
> >> The fucking blame-game is getting ridiculous here. I don't like the
> >> direction that Janet Napolitano is taking Homeland Security, or the way
> >> that
> >> many of the Administration's policies are affecting or going to affect
> >> us,
> >> but BLAME THE FUCKING BOMBER not the administration!
> >>
> >> Should he have been on the "no-fly list"? Yes, according to Obama. Was
> >> he?
> >> NO! Therefore, let's put the blame for terrorism on the fucking MUSLIM
> >> TERRORISTS.
> >>
> >> This shouldn't be a political football, this should be an AMERICAN issue.
> >

> > Terrorism is intended to have political consequences. By definition. Like,
> > duh.
>
> I think that kinda proves my point. We let them win by using the issue as a
> political football, rather than DEALING HARSHLY WITH THE FUCKERS!

This is a lot more interesting than discussing how you stiffed another RGP
poster on a bet, Rick. Smart move.

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On Dec 30 2009 5:08 PM, misanthropic whackjob wrote:

> On Dec 30 2009 4:00 PM, Gary Carson wrote:
>
> > who was that guy who blew up the federal building in OKC. You know, the
> > guy who was helped by a white farmer from Kansas?
>
> Perhaps if our fucked up government had left Koresh alone then "that guy
> who blew up the building in OKC" wouldn't have retaliated.

Whereas Muslims have no reason in the world to not love beautiful people
like us.

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risky biz

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On Dec 30 2009 5:00 PM, Gary Carson wrote:

> who was that guy who blew up the federal building in OKC. You know, the
> guy who was helped by a white farmer from Kansas?

Don't try to hijack the thread, Gary. Our American heros are trying to
stay focused on "sand niggers" here.

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risky biz

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On Dec 30 2009 5:30 PM, James L. Hankins wrote:

> "Gary Carson" <garyc...@pokercultureblog.com> wrote in message
> news:t56t07x...@recgroups.com...


>
> > who was that guy who blew up the federal building in OKC. You know, the
> > guy who was helped by a white farmer from Kansas?
>
>

> Probably don't want that logic applied to profiling for serial killers.
> That's a market pretty much dominated by white American males between 18-40.

Yeah, but they aren't crazy like 1.5 billion Muslims. Plus, they make
excellent USA freedom-fighting "warriors".

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> On Dec 30 2009 5:09 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:
>
>> On Dec 31, 7:41 am, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>

>> wrote:
>> > "johnny_t" <nobod...@home.com> wrote in message
>> >
>> > news:00f4fc41$0$6724$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
>> >
>> > > On 12/30/09 2:59 PM, Bryan Kimmes wrote:
>> >
>> > >>> The best, huh? I have a better solution. Drop all the regulations
>> > >>> and
>> > >>> bullshit, let all of us carry whatever the hell we want to on a
>> > >>> plane,
>> > >>> then a hijacker can be unceremoniously shot. One dude with a gun on

>> > >>> each of those planes would have prevented 9/11.
>> >
>> > >>> Follow :)- Hide quoted text -
>> >
>> > >> Say goodbye to cabin preasure when Plaxico puts a hole in the bottom
>> > >> of the plane.
>> >
>> > > Its the whole pressurization issue that makes these relatively tiny
>> > > explosives so dangerous.
>> >
>> > In Hollywood, maybe. "Explosive decompression" is largely a myth.

>> >
>> > Jim
>>
>> Jim is correct. A bullet hole in a fuselage would be a minor
>> inconvenience. Whistling noise mostly, easily stopped by plugging it
>> with a piece of your blanket. Oh hell, how can we do that since they
>> wone even let me carry my 2 inch Buck on the plane.
>
> Did you know that most human beings require oxygen? Why do you think an
> airline pilot does an immediate, sometimes dangerous, descent from high
> altitude when there is a loss of compression?

Probably because the oxygen masks they've just put on are *so* damned
uncomfortable.

Likewise the ones that drop down for the passengers.

It's not like "Airport" or whatever Bond movie that was.

Jim


Jerry Sturdivant

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"Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Dec 31, 8:11 am, "Jerry Sturdivant" <jerr...@cox.net> wrote:
>> Again you're being simplistic. "Dump all the politicians," will get you
>> nothing but more politicians. If you REALLY want something done, you have
>> to
>> have major reform. McCain tried, but nobody listened.
>>
>> "No politician can take a dime for reelection campaign. No politician can
>> go
>> to work for any company that did business with the government."
>>
>> These two items along would clean up politics. Along with allowing
>> National
>> Referendums. But try to make that stuff happen.
>>
>> Your simplistic "he was on a list," means nothing. There are multiple
>> lists
>> and the compilations are too numerous to list.
>>
>> Profiling? The enemy is not stupid (as noted by 9/11). You really think
>> that
>> if we simply search 20 to 40 year old males, the enemy will give up and
>> go
>> home? Hello? Even as we speak, they're using female bombers.
>>
>> How about outlawing all outward expressions of religion? This, of course,
>> would include Christianity. Pray in private (Matthew 6:5-6) and keep your
>> religious crap and ceremonies in your religious buildings. Treat religion
>> like we presently treat pornography.
>>
>> But gee, now we're goring your ox.
>>
>> Jerry 'n Vegas
>
> And violating the First Amendment. Don't let that stop you, I've
> read your posts regarding your contempt for the 4th.

Being that my idea does not violate the 1st, I doubt yours of the 4th.


Jerry 'n Vegas


Jerry Sturdivant

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"Gary Carson" <garyc...@pokercultureblog.com> wrote in message

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> I'd support the death penalty for males between 20 and 40


Like Passover. We'll act like a god and kill everybody within that age
range. Only those that have a cross over their door (this will replace
sheep's blood) will be saved.

Good call, Gary, it's bible sanctions and everything!


Jerry (locking his door) 'n Vegas


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"James L. Hankins" <jhan...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:hhh6q5$1qs$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>
>> No, it isn't.
>> And the sad fact is, it's generally a racial neighborhood
>
>
> Go back to posting your micro-limit bad beats, Beldin. You're much better
> at that.
>
Jimbo, you ever been in food service?
You ever had a cop explain to you that the law views it as discrimination if
it's a racial neighborhood your refusing?

I have, my company was (A big multistate company) and all shops were
instructed to have one uniform delivery policy. Period

You felt unsafe in some areas, don't deliver ANYWHERE.


James L. Hankins

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"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Jimbo, you ever been in food service?
> You ever had a cop explain to you that the law views it as discrimination
> if it's a racial neighborhood your refusing?
>
> I have, my company was (A big multistate company) and all shops were
> instructed to have one uniform delivery policy. Period
>
> You felt unsafe in some areas, don't deliver ANYWHERE.

You're confusing corporate instructions to ground workers to avoid
litigation with what the law actually is.

I'm sure that is what they told you. You're one of those guys to which the
maxim "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" truly applies.


James L. Hankins

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"misanthropic whackjob" <aca...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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> No, if your chip indicates that you have ever visited a muslim country,
> you get searched. If your chip and its cross references show that nobody
> in your family has any connection with muslims, you don't. You can do
> lots with that info.

Jeebus. Weren't you describing yourself as a Libertarian just a few weeks
ago?


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"James L. Hankins" <jhan...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:hhib21$doh$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>
>> Jimbo, you ever been in food service?
>> You ever had a cop explain to you that the law views it as discrimination
>> if it's a racial neighborhood your refusing?
>>
>> I have, my company was (A big multistate company) and all shops were
>> instructed to have one uniform delivery policy. Period
>>
>> You felt unsafe in some areas, don't deliver ANYWHERE.
>
>
>
> You're confusing corporate instructions to ground workers to avoid
> litigation with what the law actually is.
No, I'm explaining what the law IS, as explained to staff.

>
> I'm sure that is what they told you. You're one of those guys to which
> the maxim "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" truly applies.

No, Jimbo
You try it.
Open a shop, exclude an area, get fined, get sued, and lose.

Let me know if it goes any differently


>
>


Gary Carson

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On Dec 31 2009 7:41 AM, Jerry Sturdivant wrote:

> "Gary Carson" <garyc...@pokercultureblog.com> wrote in message
> news:drrt07...@recgroups.com...
>
> > I'd support the death penalty for males between 20 and 40
>
>
> Like Passover. We'll act like a god and kill everybody within that age
> range.

Not everyone. We'll save the women.

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"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message

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>> I'm sure that is what they told you. You're one of those guys to
>> which the maxim "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" truly
>> applies.

> No, Jimbo
> You try it.
> Open a shop, exclude an area, get fined, get sued, and lose.
>
> Let me know if it goes any differently

Excuse my ignorance, but aren't civil rights and discrimination issues
civil matters? How would the police have any jurisdiction to
intervene? You don't go to the police and claim discrimination, as far
as I know. You would make a complaint to the appropriate
administrative body in that jurisdiction, or initiate a civil lawsuit.
Sorry, I call bullshit on this one.

Jerry Sturdivant

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"susan" <hotd...@charter.net> wrote in message

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>
> "Slim1Der" <mkmo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:d11926fc-233b-4693...@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>> On Dec 30, 3:54 pm, "WG" <wgilm...@I-zoom.net> wrote:
>>> TEST
>>>
>>> 1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by:
>>> a. Superman
>>> b. Jay Leno
>>> c. Harry Potter
>>> d. A Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40
>>>
>>> 2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred
>>> by :
>>> a. Olga Corbett
>>> b. Sitting Bull
>>> c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
>>> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>>>
>>> 3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
>>> a. Lost Norwegians
>>> b. Elvis
>>> c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
>>> d . Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>>>
>>> 4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
>>> a. John Dillinger
>>> b. The King of Sweden
>>> c. The Boy Scouts
>>> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>>>
>>> 5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
>>> a. A pizza delivery boy
>>> b. Pee Wee Herman
>>> c. Geraldo Rivera
>>> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>>>
>>> 6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old,
>>> American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair
>>> by:
>>> a. The Smurfs
>>> b. Davey Jones
>>> c. The Little Mermaid
>>> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>>>
>>> 7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens , and a USNavy diver
>>> trying
>>> to rescue passengers was murdered by:
>>> a. Captain Kidd
>>> b.. Charles Lindberg
>>> c. Mother Teresa
>>> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>>>
>>> 8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
>>> a. Scooby Doo
>>> b. The Tooth Fairy
>>> c. The Sundance Kid
>>> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>>>
>>> 9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
>>> a. Richard Simmons
>>> b Grandma Moses
>>> c. Michael Jordan
>>> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>>>
>>> 10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
>>> a.. Mr. Rogers
>>> b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill's women
>>> problems
>>> c. The World Wrestling Federation
>>> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>>>
>>> 11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles
>>> to
>>> take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed
>>> into the US
>>> Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers.
>>> Thousands of people were killed by:
>>> a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
>>> b. The Supreme Court of Florida
>>> c. Mr Bean
>>> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>>>
>>> 12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistanagainst:
>>> a. Enron
>>> b. The Lutheran Church
>>> c. The NFL
>>> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>>>
>>> 13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
>>> a. Bonnie and Clyde
>>> b. Captain Kangaroo
>>> c. Billy Graham
>>> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>>>
>>> No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So,
>>> to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent
>>> on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to
>>> profile certain people. They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old
>>> women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret
>>> agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old
>>> Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former
>>> Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40
>>> alone lest they be guilty of profiling.
>
> ..............................................................
>
> Martha Stewart was traveling somewhere with her MOTHER. Her mother was
> *privately* searched (not just patted down). Her mother was one of 10 on
> the flight thusly searched, and most were women, 9 were lily white and one
> black male.
>
> On the flight were at least 10 young mideastern males (she didn't know for
> sure how many) None of them had anything more searched than standard.
>
> We have neighborhoods here that we won't deliver pizzas to after dark.
>
> Someone complained to the police - who were obligated to call us out on
> it. We told the officer we would be glad to deliver there, and will be
> calling the police station for an escort when we do. The officer laughed
> and said something to the effect that he was just doing his job - continue
> as normal.

There are areas of Riverside California that police will not respond to at
night. They will wait, then, with the lights on their cruisers turned off,
drive through at 50 MPH, while slid down in their seats. Police ambush
averted.


Jerry 'n Vegas


Jerry Sturdivant

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"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message

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>
> "James L. Hankins" <jhan...@cox.net> wrote in message

> news:IzT_m.16048$Gf3....@newsfe18.iad...


>>
>> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message

>> news:hhgto2$qni$1...@news.eternal-september.org...


>>>
>>> "James L. Hankins" <jhan...@cox.net> wrote in message

>>> news:6LS_m.86289$Wd1....@newsfe15.iad...


>>>>
>>>> "susan" <hotd...@charter.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:WtS_m.128527$Wf2....@newsfe23.iad...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I did. They said they had to respond to the complaint.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What was the complaint? Refusal of pizza delivery? That is something
>>>> to which the police have to respond? In what wacky village do you
>>>> live?
>>> Discrimination.
>>> You can pick a distance. You can't exclude a neighborhood that would
>>> otherwise fall within your delivery zone
>>
>>
>> Sure you can. Just not on the basis of race. Driver safety is a
>> perfectly acceptable reason.

> No, it isn't.
> And the sad fact is, it's generally a racial neighborhood

Jesus! Beldin, is there ANYTHING you know ANYTHING about? I'm absolutely
astounded at what you don't know.


Jerry

Beldin the Sorcerer

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"Jerry Sturdivant" <jer...@cox.net> wrote in message
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You're quite a perfect retard.

Neighborhoods that people won't go to at night....
What percentage are safe, eurocentric neighborhoods, Jerry?

>

misanthropic whackjob

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No, I said neutron bomb.

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"Gary Carson" <garyc...@pokercultureblog.com> wrote in message

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> On Dec 31 2009 7:41 AM, Jerry Sturdivant wrote:
>
>> "Gary Carson" <garyc...@pokercultureblog.com> wrote in message
>> news:drrt07...@recgroups.com...
>>
>> > I'd support the death penalty for males between 20 and 40
>>
>>
>> Like Passover. We'll act like a god and kill everybody within that age
>> range.
>
> Not everyone. We'll save the women.

That's what Moses did when god told him to slaughter a whole tribe of
people. In order to get his friends to help, he said they could keep the
virgins and just kill everybody else (including all the animals) and burn
the rest. Numbers 31:


Jerry 'n Vegas


Jerry Sturdivant

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"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message

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>
> "James L. Hankins" <jhan...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:maW_m.10$oa...@newsfe01.iad...
>>
>> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:hhh6q5$1qs$1...@news.eternal-september.org...

>>> No, it isn't.
>>> And the sad fact is, it's generally a racial neighborhood

>> Go back to posting your micro-limit bad beats, Beldin. You're much
>> better at that.

> Jimbo, you ever been in food service?
> You ever had a cop explain to you that the law views it as discrimination
> if it's a racial neighborhood your refusing?

Jesus! One more thing Beldin is clueless about..... Civil Code.


Jerry Sturdivant

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"BillB" <bo...@shaw1.ca> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:hhiev7$gbo$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>>> I'm sure that is what they told you. You're one of those guys to which
>>> the maxim "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" truly applies.
>
>> No, Jimbo
>> You try it.
>> Open a shop, exclude an area, get fined, get sued, and lose.
>>
>> Let me know if it goes any differently
>
> Excuse my ignorance, but aren't civil rights and discrimination issues
> civil matters?

It's Beldin you'll have to excuse. If we could only get him to leave the
room.


> How would the police have any jurisdiction to intervene?

They wouldn't.

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