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TEX DOLLY

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May 15, 2002, 3:18:50 PM5/15/02
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First, I want to make it clear I have no ownership in Highlands and have never
had any ownership. I turned down numerous other sites for endorsement because I
had friends involved with Highlands. I was to have been paid for my endorsement
and my picture being on their site.

When I posted I would be responsible, it was a year ago and the original owners
were still there. I knew money would be no problem, they would honor any debt.
When the site was sold to some off-shore sportsbook who I didn't know, I asked
repeatedly for my picture and endorsement to be taken down. It was not taken
down. Because one of my friends was running the site, I took no legal action to
see it was done.

I should have posted a retraction about my involvement, but didn't. ok, its a
bitter pill, but I'm not walking away.Even though I have no legal obligation, I
feel I have a moral obligation. I don't know what Highlands is going to do in
the future but I have no involvement. I think Highlands will do the right
thing, but let everybody understand, I am gone.

I will see that everybody that has requested cashouts until now will be paid in
full. Anyone who e-mails me until the 1/st of June will also be paid. Send your
account number, your screen name and amount owed. I'll check with the Highlands
records to verify it.

Good luck to Highlands. But in the tradition of the king [Elvis]
DOYLE HAS LEFT THE BUILDING

Mike McClain

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May 15, 2002, 3:54:49 PM5/15/02
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"TEX DOLLY" <texd...@aol.com> wrote :

>
> I will see that everybody that has requested cashouts until now will be paid in
> full. Anyone who e-mails me until the 1/st of June will also be paid. Send your
> account number, your screen name and amount owed. I'll check with the Highlands
> records to verify it.
>

Well done, Doyle.


Mike.


Pokerace

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May 15, 2002, 4:01:29 PM5/15/02
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I would say that this is going above and beyond the call of duty. Kudo,s to
Mr Brunson. I wonder what kind of spin the GCA will put on this one.

PA


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Tim (100)K

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May 15, 2002, 5:01:37 PM5/15/02
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Yet another reason why Doyle remains the coolest, most respected cats in
poker (in my book). As Arnold Palmer says, "That's a man move"

Hats off Doyle, and stay great,

T


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Postman

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May 15, 2002, 5:22:03 PM5/15/02
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Send you account # and screen name and I will fix it?
How do we really know for sure that this is Doyle Brunson. Just because it
has texd...@aol.com
I'm sure there are players out there that know this to be true, but I'm not
sure I would do this seeing as he has no involvement with them anymore. How
is he going to check this out? MAGIC.
I don't have any money there and never played there so I guess it doesn't
really matter one way or the other.
Anthony B.
p.s. " if this really is his email address and he helps these players out,
then he's one good guy"

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Mike Caro

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May 15, 2002, 6:25:46 PM5/15/02
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It is the real Doyle Brunson and that's his authentic e-mail address.

Straight Flushes,
Mike Caro

Jeffrey L. Woods

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May 15, 2002, 6:30:28 PM5/15/02
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In article <%jAE8.16678$bV3.7...@news0.telusplanet.net>, kid-
om...@telusplanet.net says...

> Send you account # and screen name and I will fix it?
> How do we really know for sure that this is Doyle Brunson. Just because it
> has texd...@aol.com

It is pretty well known and accepted that Doyle Brunson's REAL Email
address is indeed "texd...@aol.com".

RazzO

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May 15, 2002, 6:31:14 PM5/15/02
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The question is, Mike. How will Rust take credit for this?
Which stack of scenarios will he grab from and start typing away?


BTW, the great Mike Caro confirming to a newbie that it is indeed Dolly. You
gotta love RGP. Most poker players don't know what they are missing ;)

razzo


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Rob Oldfield

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May 15, 2002, 6:59:47 PM5/15/02
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Russ only comments on stuff pre 1990. Preferably pre 1980.


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Newgca

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May 15, 2002, 7:05:20 PM5/15/02
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>The question is, Mike. How will Rust take credit for this?
>Which stack of scenarios will he grab from and start typing away?
>

Why should I take any credit for this? I would have done what Doyle is now
doing, long ago. I would also have distanced my self from the place long ago.

I accuse Doyle of cheating, not of not paying his markers. What does one have
to do with the other?

Cheats have to pay to pay debts, to keep credibility. The same way I do. I have
never accused Doyle of not having balls or not keeping his word, only of
continous cheating for over 30 years. I hope this clarifies things. I wonder
what the situation would have been if GCA wasn't pounding on the door everyday,
however?

However, it does seem strange that Doyle doesn't use the American Justice
system. I wonder why this is? Why didn't you take your name of Highlands when
it was sold?

Bad Bob

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May 15, 2002, 7:05:41 PM5/15/02
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Nice play Tex,
I like a man who stands by his words. In the end its all we really
have that's worth spit. I don't know you, but and I have to admit that
all of this bullshit from GCA and friends had me wonderin' for awhile.
Now all I can say is I'd much rather have you back on RGP as a
regular, than ever having to read any more of Russ's unsubstantiated
accusations.
This used to be a much better forum before he hijacked it for his own
vengeful purposes...damn almost a year now.

Class act!

Bad Bob the Albino (aka)
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Sam Croy

All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer (1788 - 1860)

Jan Fisher

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May 15, 2002, 7:11:30 PM5/15/02
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Doyle, you are a class act!

Jan Fisher
Card Player Cruises
http://www.cardplayercruises.com/

MJOstar

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May 15, 2002, 7:28:18 PM5/15/02
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>Subject: Re: Doyle on Highlands
>From: new...@aol.com (Newgca)
>Date: 5/15/2002 7:05 PM Eastern

>I would have done what Doyle is now
>doing, long ago. I would also have distanced my self from the place long ago.

Well, here's the deal bucko. Most RGPers like and respect Brunson. They
don't like or respect you and - as a result, they don't believe what you say
about Brunson.

You claim Brunson was a poker cheat for 30 years. Is your claim true? I don't
know. I wouldn't know you if I tripped over you. I've seen Brunson play in
high limit ring games. I shook his hand once, but I don't know him.

What I do know is that I respect him and thererfore, I would take his word over
yours. There is an old saying in business, "the customer's perception is
reality". Based on your posts, and the responses to your posts, this appears
to be a lesson you haven't learned.

Irish Mike

Michael McCracken

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May 15, 2002, 8:15:52 PM5/15/02
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Because Highlands Club most likely is run from another country and the
American Justice system isn't going to do anything about it.

mike

Newgca

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May 15, 2002, 8:33:57 PM5/15/02
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>Because Highlands Club most likely is run from another country and the
>American Justice system isn't going to do anything about it.
>
>mike
>

Well, why didn't Doyle just come on RGP as he is now, and state he is no longer
guranteeing Highlands, and is no longer affiliated with them. Was this to EASY
to do? Seems like it was, the way it is playing out.

Newgca

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May 15, 2002, 8:37:19 PM5/15/02
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Sure he is, you just have no knowledge of anything and are a stooge for poker
since you are affiliated with gambling related business's.

Can you state anything that is detrimental to poker without it hurting your
balance sheet?

And please don't ask me to lay off the attacks on you, because I will not when
ever I deem there is one needed.

DaVoice

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May 15, 2002, 8:41:05 PM5/15/02
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I'll join Mike Caro in stating that the email address texd...@aol.com is IN
FACT Doyle Brunson.

Rick

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Diane from Green Bay

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May 16, 2002, 1:06:56 AM5/16/02
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Add my two cents in here. That is Doyle's email address and it has
been for quite awhile.

Class act for him to honor these debts.

I received all my money back a long time ago, so have no beef with
Highlands at all. Just disappointed that it didn't make it. Games
were great while they lasted.

Diane

Andrew Bloch

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May 16, 2002, 1:49:08 AM5/16/02
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texd...@aol.com (TEX DOLLY) wrote in message news:<20020515151850...@mb-mq.aol.com>...

> I will see that everybody that has requested cashouts until now will be paid in
> full. Anyone who e-mails me until the 1/st of June will also be paid. Send your
> account number, your screen name and amount owed. I'll check with the Highlands
> records to verify it.

Doyle, are you saying that you will pay people personally out of your
own pocket, or just that you will use your influence to see that
Highlands pays?

Either way, it's good to see that you're involved, although the
cynical side of me thinks you're only doing it to repair your
reputation in anticipation of a forthcoming involvement with another
on-line card room (or other endeavor).

Andy Bloch

Jd00123

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May 16, 2002, 4:24:05 AM5/16/02
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>Subject: Re: Doyle on Highlands
>From: abl...@alum.mit.edu (Andrew Bloch)

>Either way, it's good to see that you're involved, although the
>cynical side of me thinks you're only doing it to repair your
>reputation in anticipation of a forthcoming involvement with another
>on-line card room (or other endeavor).
>
>Andy Bloch

I'll give 5-1 Doyle is finished with having anything to do with online poker
sites.

M

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May 16, 2002, 8:59:28 AM5/16/02
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Now this feels like an appropriate place to actually use the word
"bucko." Congratulations Irish Mike. Your post also contains some
accurate perceptions.

mjo...@cs.com (MJOstar) wrote in message news:<20020515192818...@mb-ft.news.cs.com>...

M

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May 16, 2002, 9:07:42 AM5/16/02
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hrd...@aol.com (Diane from Green Bay) wrote in message news:<112260ba.02051...@posting.google.com>...

> Jeffrey L. Woods <je...@deltacomm.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.174cab8df...@news.telocity.com>...
> > In article <%jAE8.16678$bV3.7...@news0.telusplanet.net>, kid-
> > om...@telusplanet.net says...
> >
> > > Send you account # and screen name and I will fix it?
> > > How do we really know for sure that this is Doyle Brunson. Just because it
> > > has texd...@aol.com
> >
> > It is pretty well known and accepted that Doyle Brunson's REAL Email
> > address is indeed "texd...@aol.com".
>
>
> Add my two cents in here. That is Doyle's email address and it has
> been for quite awhile.
>
> Class act for him to honor these debts.

Agreed on all points, Diane. Too bad about those sets towards the end.
I left off playing at Highlands soon after you did (for other
reasons--and I had no complaints about the site). I too wish they had
made it. Anyway, I didn't get to FW during your last visit, so will
have to say hi another time. Anyway you must have managed to say hi to
Myron during your trip--sorry I missed that too;-)

M

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May 16, 2002, 9:16:46 AM5/16/02
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new...@aol.com (Newgca) wrote in message news:<20020515203719...@mb-cg.aol.com>...

Russ, do the terms "jerk" or "boor" mean anything to you? Why do you
have to attack so many people personally? Why can't you just stick to
the facts about gambling and poker?
Were you the kind of player who used to talk the loudest and
smoke the most at the table? Do you think the world revolves around
you? This newsgroup can benefit from some of your knowledge, but MOST
of what you post could be thrown out and it would only HELP the
remaining real material if you did so. In fact most of your posts are
either repetitions or are personal attacks as this one is (as even
this one of mine might be considered to be). It all is just so much
NOISE...shutup already and stick to the facts please. Jeez if you were
this obnoxious at the poker table I'd be surprised you didn't get
punched a few times just for your personality.

Scott Marks

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May 16, 2002, 1:40:19 PM5/16/02
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In article <m4o5euomqi5n0u9sh...@4ax.com>, Mike Caro wrote:
> It is the real Doyle Brunson and that's his authentic e-mail address.
>
> Straight Flushes,
> Mike Caro
>
> On Wed, 15 May 2002 21:22:03 GMT, "Postman"
><kid-...@telusplanet.net> wrote:
>
>>Send you account # and screen name and I will fix it?
>>How do we really know for sure that this is Doyle Brunson. Just because it
>>has texd...@aol.com

This might in fact be Doyle, but people should remember it's not very
difficult to forge both email and Usenet posts.

The only way to know for sure if a message is posted by someone is if it
is digitally signed with some thing like Pretty Good Privacy (PGP) or GNU
Privacy Guard (GPG).

Scott...

Michael McCracken

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May 16, 2002, 2:10:19 PM5/16/02
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Well, at least we know that texd...@aol.com is his email address...
so even if it wasn't him he's still the one getting the email.

mike

Mike Caro

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May 16, 2002, 2:23:09 PM5/16/02
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On Thu, 16 May 2002 17:40:19 -0000, Scott Marks
<sk1...@spamyahoo.comsucks> wrote:

Your points are good, but if you send an e-mail to that address, it
should go to Doyle, whether or not he posted the message. And I can
personal confirm that he DID post the message.

Straight Flushes,
Mike Caro

Scott Marks

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May 16, 2002, 3:17:39 PM5/16/02
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I'm glad that you do have confirmation that it is his message. I've
never met Doyle, but he does seem like a decent guy.

I was just reminding people to have a little caution when reading non-trivial
messages (such as the Highlands Club topic.)

BTW Mike, I enjoy your Poker Digest columns, keep 'em coming.

Scott...

Chet

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May 16, 2002, 5:12:11 PM5/16/02
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RUSS: Would you please do us a favor?

Put a sock in it!!

Better yet, swallow the damn thing.

You ask why he didn't do anything earlier, seems to me he explained
why in his post. We may or may not agree with his reasons, doesn't
mean a damn thing, they are his reasons.

Chet

Keith Ellul

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May 16, 2002, 7:27:20 PM5/16/02
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But... how do I know that you are the real Mike Caro? ;-)

Keith

RazzO

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May 16, 2002, 10:12:46 PM5/16/02
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> Sure he is, you just have no knowledge of anything and are a stooge for poker
> since you are affiliated with gambling related business's.

Rust, you lame dick. You're only spewing allegations, you have no proof. It is you that is a a
stooge.
And a liar.

That's all you have is stories. Poor guy. Wish in one hand, shit in the other. That is you.


razzo

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Bad Bob

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May 16, 2002, 10:34:19 PM5/16/02
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Bull shit! Every email address is unique. If you just read 'em you
could figure that out.
Let me see you post a message as bad...@toughguy.net if they are so
damn easy to forge....


On Thu, 16 May 2002 17:40:19 -0000, Scott Marks
<sk1...@spamyahoo.comsucks> wrote:

Bad Bob the Albino (aka)

Bad Bob

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May 20, 2002, 1:28:11 PM5/20/02
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Bad Bob wrote:
Bull shit! Every email address is unique. If you just read 'em you
could figure that out. Let me see you post a message as bad...@toughguy.net
if they are so damn easy to forge....
-----

Your wish is my command.

Scott...
sk1...@yahoo.com

Bad Bob

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May 20, 2002, 2:05:37 PM5/20/02
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Well Kiddies I guess I have to eat my words on this one. I didn't
think it could be done but Scott seems to have made a post in my name
and the header shows me as the author.
I know I'm being tricked somehow because it's only a reply to my
original but it's got me stumped. (Not that hard to do.)
Anyone care to explain how this was done? I'd appreciate an email.
Patti your a computer guru help me out on this one.

God damned crow tastes like shit.....

On Mon, 20 May 2002 17:28:11 -0000, Bad Bob <bad...@toughguy.net>
wrote:

Bad Bob the Albino (aka)

Michael McCracken

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May 20, 2002, 2:56:03 PM5/20/02
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In emails and usenet the from and email address lines or reply-to
address in your newsreader can have anything you want populated in
them. To actual forge that the message is coming from your ISP is a
bit harder I think. But it appears you are both using Supernews
though.....

mike

On Mon, 20 May 2002 14:05:37 -0400, Bad Bob <bad...@toughguy.net>
wrote:

Scott Marks

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May 20, 2002, 3:55:47 PM5/20/02
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In article <oceieucga5bqi7a8s...@4ax.com>, Bad Bob wrote:
> Well Kiddies I guess I have to eat my words on this one. I didn't
> think it could be done but Scott seems to have made a post in my name
> and the header shows me as the author.
> I know I'm being tricked somehow because it's only a reply to my
> original but it's got me stumped. (Not that hard to do.)
> Anyone care to explain how this was done? I'd appreciate an email.
> Patti your a computer guru help me out on this one.
>
> God damned crow tastes like shit.....

This was the 'takes all of 90 seconds' forge, so these is one little
inconsistency in the headers, extra credit for those who find it :-)

As to how it's done, it involves connecting to the netnews TCP/IP port
and issuing raw NNTP commands. It's not trivial for a computer novice,
but a google search reveals much.....

Scott...

Steve Badger

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May 20, 2002, 5:42:11 PM5/20/02
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I suppose there may be exceptions but Email addresses don't have anything to
do with newsgroup postings.

"Bad Bob" <bad...@toughguy.net> wrote in message
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Steve Badger

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May 20, 2002, 6:02:54 PM5/20/02
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Not counting Google.

"Steve Badger" <PlayWinningPoker[REMOVE-THIS]@earthlink.net> wrote in
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Bad Bob

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May 20, 2002, 8:11:07 PM5/20/02
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Thanks Scott and Michael. I noticed the message ID and the reference
lines were different but I ain't enough of a computer geek to know
why.
I'm still 99.9% sure that the message that was the original subject
was from Doyle though. I'm thinkin' an AOL address might be a little
harder to fake. Am I right?
My weak spot is probably using toughguy.net (hotpop.com). Time to find
a new identity..... bad...@aol.com NOT!

Bad Bob the Albino (aka)

Steve Badger

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May 20, 2002, 9:04:51 PM5/20/02
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"Bad Bob" <bad...@toughguy.net> wrote...

> Thanks Scott and Michael. I noticed the message ID and the reference
> lines were different but I ain't enough of a computer geek to know
> why.
> I'm still 99.9% sure that the message that was the original subject
> was from Doyle though. I'm thinkin' an AOL address might be a little
> harder to fake. Am I right?

No.

Faking headers, newsfeed accounts, ip addresses... none of that has anything
to do with email accounts. You could post using any email address that you
want and it would show up just fine. If somebody examined the headers it
could be determined that you weren't Doyle or the Pope or whoever you were
pretending to be, but there would be no problem posting as from
the_...@vatican.com and the email address wouldn't tell you anything.
--
Steve Badger
http://www.playwinningpoker.com


Bad Bob

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May 21, 2002, 11:27:21 AM5/21/02
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I'm thinkin' this thread was a bad idea. I can just see Russ now
paging through all the computer books at amazon as he rubs his hands
together and chuckles to hiself.

Bad Bob the Albino (aka)

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