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Beldin the Sorcerer

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Nov 27, 2009, 12:53:41 AM11/27/09
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Full Tilt Poker Game #16336711910: $5 + $0.50 Rebuy (1r+1a) (120462593),
Table 3 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:51:52 ET - 2009/11/27
Seat 1: Sophisticat (953)
Seat 2: AlwaysOnTheDraw (1,500)
Seat 3: RODnHawk (8,290)
Seat 4: The_Sorcerer (1,040)
Seat 5: iLikePoker53 (3,120)
Seat 6: Yeahbaby2 (1,500)
Seat 7: avesher (2,820)
Seat 8: suspicious23 (2,515)
Seat 9: cubapoker2009 (997)
iLikePoker53 posts the small blind of 20
Yeahbaby2 posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to The_Sorcerer [Ac Ah]
avesher calls 40
suspicious23 has 15 seconds left to act
suspicious23 calls 40
cubapoker2009 calls 40
Sophisticat folds
AlwaysOnTheDraw calls 40
RODnHawk folds
The_Sorcerer raises to 1,040, and is all in
iLikePoker53 folds
Yeahbaby2 folds
avesher folds
suspicious23 folds
cubapoker2009 calls 957, and is all in
AlwaysOnTheDraw folds
The_Sorcerer shows [Ac Ah]
cubapoker2009 shows [Tc Td]
Uncalled bet of 43 returned to The_Sorcerer
*** FLOP *** [Jc 6d 8s]
*** TURN *** [Jc 6d 8s] [2c]
*** RIVER *** [Jc 6d 8s 2c] [Th]
The_Sorcerer shows a pair of Aces
cubapoker2009 shows three of a kind, Tens
cubapoker2009 wins the pot (2,174) with three of a kind, Tens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,174 | Rake 0
Board: [Jc 6d 8s 2c Th]
Seat 1: Sophisticat didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: AlwaysOnTheDraw folded before the Flop
Seat 3: RODnHawk didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: The_Sorcerer (button) showed [Ac Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 5: iLikePoker53 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Yeahbaby2 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: avesher folded before the Flop
Seat 8: suspicious23 folded before the Flop
Seat 9: cubapoker2009 showed [Tc Td] and won (2,174) with three of a kind,
Tens


Alim Nassor 1

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Nov 27, 2009, 1:41:53 AM11/27/09
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On Nov 27, 12:53 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
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A short stack calls another short stacks all-in with a premium hand.
I don't see a moron here.

Beldin the Sorcerer

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Nov 27, 2009, 2:17:57 AM11/27/09
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"Alim Nassor 1" <AlimN...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Besides you?
The retard limped with TT.
Moron play if you're eager to get your stack in.
The retard then called a tight player going all in.
Complete moron play

TT is NOT a premium hand there, you idiot


Pepe Papon

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Nov 27, 2009, 2:37:26 AM11/27/09
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I'm not sure why the villain originally limped. If he was going to
call a shove, why didn't he shove the first time he had the chance?
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Alim Nassor 1

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Nov 27, 2009, 3:24:56 AM11/27/09
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Maybe to induce a raise. An all-in may just get him the blinds.

Beldin the Sorcerer

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Nov 27, 2009, 3:41:38 AM11/27/09
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So he can be at best a coinflip and at worst a 4-1 dog

No wonder you suck at this game


ramashiva

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Nov 27, 2009, 3:42:09 AM11/27/09
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On Nov 26, 11:37 pm, Pepe Papon
<hitmeis...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote:

> >A short stack calls another short stacks all-in with a premium hand.
> >I don't see a moron here.

> I'm not sure why the villain originally limped.   If he was going to
> call a shove, why didn't he shove the first time he had the chance?

cubapoker is not short stacked. M > 16. His original limp and
subsequent call are both perfectly reasonable plays. He got lucky,
but that doesn't make him a moron.


William Coleman (ramashiva)

Beldin the Sorcerer

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Nov 27, 2009, 3:48:33 AM11/27/09
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"ramashiva" <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Willie, shut the fuck up when you don't know what the fuck you're talking
about

Limp-calling there is the height of stupidity.

I had the idiot covered, and I clearly had a premium hand

Alim Nassor 1

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Nov 27, 2009, 3:48:33 AM11/27/09
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On Nov 27, 3:41 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
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> "Alim Nassor 1" <AlimNass...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:684719a0-9827-46cb...@b36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> No wonder you suck at this game- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

LOL you know nothing of my poker playing ability. You assume he
knows you have Aces. You guys have been at the same table for what 20
minutes? LOL.

Beldin the Sorcerer

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Nov 27, 2009, 3:55:27 AM11/27/09
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No, shithead, I assume he knows I have a premium hand

4-1 dog or race

ramashiva

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Nov 27, 2009, 3:59:55 AM11/27/09
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On Nov 27, 12:48 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
wrote:
> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> news:d7de5c8a-f5c8-452d...@u16g2000pru.googlegroups.com...

> On Nov 26, 11:37 pm, Pepe Papon

> <hitmeis...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote:

> > >A short stack calls another short stacks all-in with a premium hand.
> > >I don't see a moron here.
> > I'm not sure why the villain originally limped. If he was going to
> > call a shove, why didn't he shove the first time he had the chance?

> cubapoker is not short stacked. M > 16.  His original limp and
> subsequent call are both perfectly reasonable plays.  He got lucky,
> but that doesn't make him a moron.

> Willie, shut the fuck up when you don't know what the fuck you're talking
> about

I do know exactly what I am talking about. Everything you have said
about this hand is 100% incorrect. Players in your position
frequently raise all in with AK and small pairs. TT is a big favorite
against all these hands.

> Limp-calling there is the height of stupidity.

False. It is a completely reasonable play.

> I had the idiot covered, and I clearly had a premium hand

No, you did not clearly have a premium hand.

Look. You have to work to get money to play poker. I make enough
money playing poker that I haven't had to work for 20 years. Maybe
someday you will understand the vast difference in poker knowledge
between these two classes of poker players.


William Coleman (ramashiva)


Beldin the Sorcerer

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Nov 27, 2009, 4:59:56 AM11/27/09
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"ramashiva" <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Nov 27, 12:48 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
wrote:
> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> news:d7de5c8a-f5c8-452d...@u16g2000pru.googlegroups.com...

> On Nov 26, 11:37 pm, Pepe Papon

> <hitmeis...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote:

> > >A short stack calls another short stacks all-in with a premium hand.
> > >I don't see a moron here.
> > I'm not sure why the villain originally limped. If he was going to
> > call a shove, why didn't he shove the first time he had the chance?

> cubapoker is not short stacked. M > 16. His original limp and
> subsequent call are both perfectly reasonable plays. He got lucky,
> but that doesn't make him a moron.

> Willie, shut the fuck up when you don't know what the fuck you're talking
> about

I do know exactly what I am talking about. Everything you have said
about this hand is 100% incorrect.

***
No, fuckhead, everything I said is correct.
***
You being a shit for brains, alas, is preventing you from seeing it.

Players in your position
frequently raise all in with AK and small pairs. TT is a big favorite
against all these hands.

***
No, fuckhead.
While good players make that play with AK, they do NOT make it with small
pairs.
IDIOTS make it with small pairs, which, I'm sure, is why it's in your
playbook.
***

> Limp-calling there is the height of stupidity.

False. It is a completely reasonable play.

***
Which explains your abysmal tourney results
***

> I had the idiot covered, and I clearly had a premium hand

No, you did not clearly have a premium hand.

***
Willie, you suck at the game.
You can't read someone to save your idiotic ass.
I ALWAYS have a premium hand in that situation.
***

Look. You have to work to get money to play poker.

***
I haven't funded an on line account from my personal money EVER, shithead.

Every dollar was won from some idiot like you, except what I got as a prize
from the poker site to get me started, or transferred from one site to
another.
I have NEVER deposited a nickel of non-poker won money.

So no, shithead, I don't need to work to play poker.
***


I make enough
money playing poker that I haven't had to work for 20 years.

***
Those supplimental blowjobs worked out for you, then.

***

Maybe
someday you will understand the vast difference in poker knowledge
between these two classes of poker players.

***
Shithead, here's me :
Winning strongly for the year
http://officialpokerrankings.com/fulltiltpoker/The_Sorcerer/poker/results/7BF11A7A8F884483964A4C8896952326.html?t=2
HU/STT/MTT * Prizes Profit ROI ABI AFS R/A ITM ITM
Heads-Up 2 player $0 $0 0% $0 0 0% 0/0 0%
Single Table 3-10 $0 $0 0% $0 0 0% 0/0 0%
Multi Table 11-45 $23 <$0 -49% $8.80 45 0% 1/5 20%
Multi Table 46-180 $492 $174 54% $4.83 113 17% 12/66 18%
Multi Table 181- $3,370 $1,284 62% $4.17 773 16% 117/500 23%
$3,885 $1,436 59% $4.29 690 16% 130/571 23%

Here's you :
Losing like a retard.
http://officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/ramashiva/poker/results/38B987A2AF954EDFB5C240BCCDF2E7B7.html?t=2
HU/STT/MTT * Prizes Profit ROI ABI AFS R/A ITM ITM
Heads-Up 2 player $0 $0 0% $0 0 0% 0/0 0%
Single Table 3-10 $0 $0 0% $0 0 0% 0/0 0%
Multi Table 11-45 $0 $0 0% $0 0 0% 0/0 0%
Multi Table 46-180 $33 <$0 -69% $15 137 0% 3/7 43%
Multi Table 181- $665 <$0 -31% $24 4220 0% 10/40 25%
$698 <$0 -35% $23 3612 0% 13

ramashiva

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Nov 27, 2009, 5:26:40 AM11/27/09
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On Nov 27, 1:59 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
wrote:

> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:4019bf35-1fa1-4bb1...@z4g2000prh.googlegroups.com...

> On Nov 27, 12:48 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net> wrote:

> > "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> >news:d7de5c8a-f5c8-452d...@u16g2000pru.googlegroups.com...

> > On Nov 26, 11:37 pm, Pepe Papon

> > <hitmeis...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote:

> > > >A short stack calls another short stacks all-in with a premium hand.
> > > >I don't see a moron here.
> > > I'm not sure why the villain originally limped. If he was going to
> > > call a shove, why didn't he shove the first time he had the chance?

> > cubapoker is not short stacked. M > 16. His original limp and
> > subsequent call are both perfectly reasonable plays. He got lucky,
> > but that doesn't make him a moron.

> > Willie, shut the fuck up when you don't know what the fuck you're talking
> > about

> I do know exactly what I am talking about.  Everything you have said
> about this hand is 100% incorrect.

> No, fuckhead, everything I said is correct.

> You being a shit for brains, alas, is preventing you from seeing it.

>  Players in your position
> frequently raise all in with AK and small pairs.  TT is a big favorite
> against all these hands.

> No, fuckhead.


> While good players make that play with AK, they do NOT make it with small
> pairs.

What the fuck would you know about what good players do??? You play
in microtournaments and make less than $1/hour. You are a terrible
tournament player, and so are the idiots you play against.

> IDIOTS make it with small pairs, which, I'm sure, is why it's in your
> playbook.

> > Limp-calling there is the height of stupidity.

> False.  It is a completely reasonable play.

> Which explains your abysmal tourney results

> > I had the idiot covered, and I clearly had a premium hand

> No, you did not clearly have a premium hand.

> Willie, you suck at the game.


> You can't read someone to save your idiotic ass.
> I ALWAYS have a premium hand in that situation.

But your opponent doesn't know you play that way. Your criticisms of
your opponents are always based on the idea that they should know
exactly how you play. They don't.

> Look.  You have to work to get money to play poker.

> I haven't funded an on line account from my personal money EVER, shithead.

> Every dollar was won from some idiot like you, except what I got as a prize
> from the poker site to get me started, or transferred from one site to
> another.

> I have NEVER deposited a nickel of non-poker won money.

> So no, shithead, I don't need to work to play poker.

Let me ask you this, then. If you are such a great poker player, why
are you working? If you are a winning poker player, you can make more
money than you make in your current job if you play high enough. Face
it. If you played in PS MTT with entry fees of $11 and higher, you
would be a big time loser.


> I make enough
> money playing poker that I haven't had to work for 20 years.

> Those supplimental blowjobs worked out for you, then.

Just couldn't get through even one post without a homosexual slur.
You are a closeted faggot. Deal with it.

> Maybe
> someday you will understand the vast difference in poker knowledge
> between these two classes of poker players.

> Shithead, here's me :
> Winning strongly for the yearhttp://officialpokerrankings.com/fulltiltpoker/The_Sorcerer/poker/res...


>       HU/STT/MTT * Prizes Profit ROI ABI AFS R/A ITM ITM
>        Heads-Up 2 player  $0 $0 0% $0 0 0% 0/0 0%
>        Single Table 3-10  $0 $0 0% $0 0 0% 0/0 0%
>        Multi Table 11-45  $23 <$0 -49% $8.80 45 0% 1/5 20%
>        Multi Table 46-180  $492 $174 54% $4.83 113 17% 12/66 18%
>        Multi Table 181-  $3,370 $1,284 62% $4.17 773 16% 117/500 23%
>          $3,885 $1,436 59% $4.29 690 16% 130/571 23%

> Here's you :
> Losing like a retard.http://officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/ramashiva/poker/results/3...


>              HU/STT/MTT * Prizes Profit ROI ABI AFS R/A ITM ITM
>              Heads-Up 2 player  $0 $0 0% $0 0 0% 0/0 0%
>              Single Table 3-10  $0 $0 0% $0 0 0% 0/0 0%
>              Multi Table 11-45  $0 $0 0% $0 0 0% 0/0 0%
>              Multi Table 46-180  $33 <$0 -69% $15 137 0% 3/7 43%
>              Multi Table 181-  $665 <$0 -31% $24 4220 0% 10/40 25%
>                $698 <$0 -35% $23 3612 0% 13

I have explained the following to you numerous times, and you just
ignore the facts --

Your idiotic OPR database contains less than 10% of the tournaments in
my PokerTracker database, and I haven't updated that database for over
eight months, because I can't get PT to import tournament summaries
anymore.

The OPR results are dominated by a single $215 tournament in which I
did not cash.

I won that seat playing a 500 FPP satellite, a fact not reflected in
your OPR database.

Based on your idiotic strategy posts, where everything you say is 100%
incorrect, I KNOW for a certainty that I am a much stronger tournament
player than you are.

You know it too, because I offered you many opportunities to play in
the same PS MTT tournaments with me, with a side bet on who would make
the greater cash. You consistently dodged these offers and made lame
excuses.

I have given the correct analysis of the hand. This will be another
thread in which no one will agree with you, many people will tell you
that you are wrong, yet you will doggedly maintain you are right.

I am not going to get involved in an endless back and forth with you.
You won't listen to people like me who actually understand correct
poker strategy, so you never will.


William Coleman (ramashiva)


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"ramashiva" <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> news:4019bf35-1fa1-4bb1...@z4g2000prh.googlegroups.com...

> >news:d7de5c8a-f5c8-452d...@u16g2000pru.googlegroups.com...

> > <hitmeis...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote:

***
False
But then, you failed math repeatedly.
***


You are a terrible
tournament player, and so are the idiots you play against.

***
No, Wilma
I understand tournament theory and you don't.
This is why you donk off so much
***

> IDIOTS make it with small pairs, which, I'm sure, is why it's in your
> playbook.

> > Limp-calling there is the height of stupidity.

> False. It is a completely reasonable play.

> Which explains your abysmal tourney results

> > I had the idiot covered, and I clearly had a premium hand

> No, you did not clearly have a premium hand.

> Willie, you suck at the game.
> You can't read someone to save your idiotic ass.
> I ALWAYS have a premium hand in that situation.

But your opponent doesn't know you play that way.

***
Which makes them retarded for assuming I'm as stupid as you are.

***

Your criticisms of
your opponents are always based on the idea that they should know
exactly how you play. They don't.

***
No, my criticism of morons is that they make idiot calls, all day long.
***


> Look. You have to work to get money to play poker.

> I haven't funded an on line account from my personal money EVER, shithead.

> Every dollar was won from some idiot like you, except what I got as a
> prize
> from the poker site to get me started, or transferred from one site to
> another.

> I have NEVER deposited a nickel of non-poker won money.

> So no, shithead, I don't need to work to play poker.

Let me ask you this, then. If you are such a great poker player, why
are you working?

***
Responsibilities
***

If you are a winning poker player, you can make more
money than you make in your current job if you play high enough. Face
it. If you played in PS MTT with entry fees of $11 and higher, you
would be a big time loser.

***
No, idiot boy, I wouldn't.
BUT I'd need a bankroll of about $6000 to do that comfortably.
***


> I make enough
> money playing poker that I haven't had to work for 20 years.

> Those supplimental blowjobs worked out for you, then.

Just couldn't get through even one post without a homosexual slur.
You are a closeted faggot. Deal with it.

***
Willie, how fucking stupid are you?
I don't think you're gay.
If you sucked cock for money it would be because you needed the money, not
because you thought the guy was hot
***

***
Shithead, you're the one who ignores the facts.
They're right there in front of you
***


Your idiotic OPR database contains less than 10% of the tournaments in
my PokerTracker database, and I haven't updated that database for over
eight months, because I can't get PT to import tournament summaries
anymore.

***
Shithead, this year you suck ass.
Period.
You donked off hundreds in one month.
***


The OPR results are dominated by a single $215 tournament in which I
did not cash.

***
No, shithead, those are 2009 results
You are a horrid tourney player.
You're clueless.
Own it, bitch
***


I won that seat playing a 500 FPP satellite, a fact not reflected in
your OPR database.

Based on your idiotic strategy posts, where everything you say is 100%
incorrect, I KNOW for a certainty that I am a much stronger tournament
player than you are.

***
No, what we know is that you're a weak old fool, who's clueless about how to
play a deep field tournament.
You'll be so unlikely to see a final table, you'd be better off staking
people at random
***


You know it too, because I offered you many opportunities to play in
the same PS MTT tournaments with me, with a side bet on who would make
the greater cash. You consistently dodged these offers and made lame
excuses.

***
Shit for brains "I have to work" is a legitimate reason.
AND, retard, by not playing at all, I outperformed you.
***

I have given the correct analysis of the hand.

***
Willie, you wouldn't know the correct way to play that hand if it hit you
over the head with a baseball bat.

***

This will be another
thread in which no one will agree with you, many people will tell you
that you are wrong, yet you will doggedly maintain you are right.

***
Shithead, the obvious FACT is I'm correct.
He called all in as a huge dog.
Retard call, pure and simple
***


I am not going to get involved in an endless back and forth with you.
You won't listen to people like me who actually understand correct
poker strategy, so you never will.

***
Willie, you haven't got a clue to proper tournament strategy, which is why
you play them so badly.
AND, retard, if you called me with TT there in CASH games, you'd lose so
much, you'd have to rent your ass out too, just to get back into action

Alim Nassor

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On Nov 27, 12:53 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
wrote:

You know, when I have AA I WANT the guy with 10 10 to call. You are
just whining bcause he hit his 2 outer. It happens, get over it.

Beldin the Sorcerer

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***
I'm pointing out he played like a retard.
I don't ever recall stating I prefered my opponents be brilliant


Alim Nassor

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On Nov 27, 6:14 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

So why whine? He did exactly what you want him to do. He sucked
out.. It happens. Get over it and move on to the next gaem.

Raider Fan

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Nov 27, 2009, 7:46:27 AM11/27/09
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Not only that, it's a rebuy tourney during the rebuy period. Once again,
Beldin is a nut.

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Beldin the Sorcerer

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***
I'm not whining.
I'm giving you a name for your idiot list.
AND I get to see who's clueless, Like Willie


Beldin the Sorcerer

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Nov 27, 2009, 7:50:21 AM11/27/09
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Shit for brains, learn to fucking read
It's a 1+1 tournament, moron
He can rebuy once, and add on once ONLY

Christ alfucking mighty, stop embarrassing yourself


ramashiva

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On Nov 27, 2:54 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
wrote:

> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> Based on your idiotic strategy posts, where everything you say is 100%


> incorrect, I KNOW for a certainty that I am a much stronger tournament
> player than you are.

> You know it too, because I offered you many opportunities to play in
> the same PS MTT tournaments with me, with a side bet on who would make
> the greater cash.  You consistently dodged these offers and made lame
> excuses.

> Shit for brains "I have to work" is a legitimate reason.

No it is not. You are a cowardly weasel.

The PS NL MTT run at all hours of the day and night. Plus, you have
two days off. Plus, you spend endless hours everyday spewing your
idiocy on RGP.

There are clearly PS NL MTT you could play if you wanted to.

If you really believed all your bullshit about my being a terrible
tournament player, you would jump at the chance to make $20 side bets
on $11 tournaments.

But you don't believe it. You know I am a much stronger tournament
player than you are.

So I will renew my challenge, idiot.

Please list the PS NL MTT with entry fees of $11 or higher which you
can play. Please don't claim there are none. That doesn't pass the
laugh test.

I am available 24/7, with advance notice.

I will play in as many of these tournaments as possible.

For every tournament we both play, there is a $20 side bet.

If neither of us cash, there is no bet.

If one of us cashes, and the other doesn't, the player who cashes wins
$20.

If we both cash, the player with the higher cash wins $20.

Very simple. But you won't take the bet because --

You know you would be crushed in PS NL MTT with $11 or higher buyins.

You know I would crush you in the prop bet.

You can't bullshit your way out of this one, idiot.

If you think you are a better tournament player than I am, then list
the PS NL MTT which you can play.

Failure to do so will be conclusive proof that you KNOW I am a


stronger tournament player than you are.

Like I said, you are a cowardly weasel.


William Coleman (ramashiva)

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I saw that. Why wouldn't he call TT when he can rebuy? People push with
all kinds of crap during the rebuy period. TT is ahead of the range
people push.

>
> Christ alfucking mighty, stop embarrassing yourself

You can't stop embarrassing yourself posting these hand histories where
you clearly have no idea how to play this format. BTW, why would you
start a hand with 1040 chips during the rebuy period?

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"ramashiva" <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Nov 27, 2:54 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
wrote:

> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> Based on your idiotic strategy posts, where everything you say is 100%
> incorrect, I KNOW for a certainty that I am a much stronger tournament
> player than you are.
> You know it too, because I offered you many opportunities to play in
> the same PS MTT tournaments with me, with a side bet on who would make
> the greater cash. You consistently dodged these offers and made lame
> excuses.

> Shit for brains "I have to work" is a legitimate reason.

No it is not. You are a cowardly weasel.

***
Fuck you.
I offered to play you in the Midnight Madness two nights a week for as long
as you want on tilt.

You cut and ran like the cowardly little bitch you are.
***


The PS NL MTT run at all hours of the day and night.

***
Lying sack of shit.
The schedule was posted and I'm asleep or working at some point during all
of them.
You love to lie, don't you, Wilma.
***

Plus, you have
two days off. Plus, you spend endless hours everyday spewing your
idiocy on RGP.

***
Fuckhead, I have two nights off.
I still need to sleep first, and be functional when I play.
***


There are clearly PS NL MTT you could play if you wanted to.

***
Nope
I mean, I could bend over backwards to get into one.
I couldn't restructure my life for a long period of time.
But fuck, you have no life, so why aren't you leaping to play me in the
Midnight Madness on tilt?

$11 buy in, 2000 people fields.
You could donk off REAL quick
***


If you really believed all your bullshit about my being a terrible
tournament player, you would jump at the chance to make $20 side bets
on $11 tournaments.

***
Why?
They're high variance.

You're too chickenshit to take my prop bet, because you know you'd get your
ass handed to you.
***


But you don't believe it. You know I am a much stronger tournament
player than you are.

***
FUCK YOU, RETARD.

You're too chickenshit to play on tilt.
You suck ass when you play on stars.
***


So I will renew my challenge, idiot.

Please list the PS NL MTT with entry fees of $11 or higher which you
can play. Please don't claim there are none. That doesn't pass the
laugh test.

***
Fuck you, retard boy.
It's been done.

Tilt. Midnight. Two nights a week.
Play or STFD and STFU.

***

I am available 24/7, with advance notice.

I will play in as many of these tournaments as possible.

For every tournament we both play, there is a $20 side bet.

If neither of us cash, there is no bet.

If one of us cashes, and the other doesn't, the player who cashes wins

***
So in other words, you play like the retard you are, and cash 26%
I play correctly and cash 22%, but show a large profit because I actually
see the final table occasionally.
I'm not saying you can't crawl into the money more than me, idiot boy.
Raider does that already.
I just make have made more profit this year than the two of you put together
(Of course, you're LOSING, so)
***
Full tilt. 2 tourneys a week for x months.
Better profit wins.

Put up or shut up, Wilma.

***

$20.

If we both cash, the player with the higher cash wins $20.

Very simple. But you won't take the bet because --

You know you would be crushed in PS NL MTT with $11 or higher buyins.

You know I would crush you in the prop bet.

You can't bullshit your way out of this one, idiot.

***
Well, Cockwoman, you can lie all you want.
Until you show a profit somewhere, I'll just laugh at your ass.
***

If you think you are a better tournament player than I am, then list
the PS NL MTT which you can play.

***
None, WIlma.
You better get over to Tilt then.
You're afraid to play there, aren't you.
Tell the truth.
***

Failure to do so will be conclusive proof that you KNOW I am a
stronger tournament player than you are.

***
Not remotely.
You failing to play on tilt will be.
You said repeatedly 24/7.... but not on tilt?
What the fuck, Bitch.... are you a fuckbitch?
***

Like I said, you are a cowardly weasel.

***
Not EVER afraid of some old, washed up, never was who doesn't understand
ANYTHING about tournament theory.

Beldin the Sorcerer

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"Raider Fan" <raidersgo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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No, it's 2-1 dog
Only an idiot pushes 66 into a field of that size there.

First rule of good tournament poker. Don't make idiot calls, without
evidence that the idiot is the other guy.

An idiot call is one where either the raiser has to be an idiot to push with
what he needs to hold, for your call to be good, or you're a goddamned idiot
for making the call.


>>
>> Christ alfucking mighty, stop embarrassing yourself
>
> You can't stop embarrassing yourself posting these hand histories where
> you clearly have no idea how to play this format. BTW, why would you
> start a hand with 1040 chips during the rebuy period?

Retard, it's ONE rebuy.
If I was gonna auto-buy it, it'd be first hand.
Otherwise I'm holding it until some idiot fucks me by sucking out like a
moron.


ramashiva

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On Nov 27, 5:53 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
wrote:

> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:fb5a31b7-8805-4f79...@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com...

> On Nov 27, 2:54 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
> wrote:

> > "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> > Based on your idiotic strategy posts, where everything you say is 100%
> > incorrect, I KNOW for a certainty that I am a much stronger tournament
> > player than you are.
> > You know it too, because I offered you many opportunities to play in
> > the same PS MTT tournaments with me, with a side bet on who would make
> > the greater cash. You consistently dodged these offers and made lame
> > excuses.
> > Shit for brains "I have to work" is a legitimate reason.

> No it is not.  You are a cowardly weasel.

> Fuck you.


> I offered to play you in the Midnight Madness two nights a week for as long
> as you want on tilt.

Newsflash!!! I challenged you first. Accept or reject the
challenge. You don't get to make a counterchallenge.

You are a cowardly weasel.

> You cut and ran like the cowardly little bitch you are.

I did no such thing. You are the one who cut and run by refusing to
accept my challenge.

> The PS NL MTT run at all hours of the day and night.

> Lying sack of shit.


> The schedule was posted and I'm asleep or working at some point during all
> of them.
> You love to lie, don't you, Wilma.

No that would be you. Anyone interested can just look at the PS NL
MTT schedule and see that these tournaments do indeed run at all hours


of the day and night.

> Plus, you have


> two days off.  Plus, you spend endless hours everyday spewing your
> idiocy on RGP.

> Fuckhead, I have two nights off.


> I still need to sleep first, and be functional when I play.

Excuses, excuses. Put the fuck up or admit you KNOW I am a stronger


tournament player than you are.

> There are clearly PS NL MTT you could play if you wanted to.

> Nope


> I mean, I could bend over backwards to get into one.
> I couldn't restructure my life for a long period of time.

More cowardly weaseling.

> But fuck, you have no life, so why aren't you leaping to play me in the
> Midnight Madness on tilt?

Because I challenged you first, asshole. Your failure to accept my
challenge proves beyond any doubt that you are a cowardly weasel.

> $11 buy in, 2000 people fields.
> You could donk off REAL quick

> If you really believed all your bullshit about my being a terrible


> tournament player, you would jump at the chance to make $20 side bets
> on $11 tournaments.

> Why?
> They're high variance.

> You're too chickenshit to take my prop bet, because you know you'd get your
> ass handed to you.

Bullshit. I made the first challenge. Accept it or reject it. If
you don't accept it, you are a cowardly weasel.

> But you don't believe it.  You know I am a much stronger tournament
> player than you are.

> FUCK YOU, RETARD.

> You're too chickenshit to play on tilt.
> You suck ass when you play on stars.

Nope. For the 314 tournaments in my PT database, my ROI is +377%.

> So I will renew my challenge, idiot.

> Please list the PS NL MTT with entry fees of $11 or higher which you
> can play.  Please don't claim there are none.  That doesn't pass the
> laugh test.

> Fuck you, retard boy.
> It's been done.

> Tilt. Midnight. Two nights a week.
> Play or STFD and STFU.

Again, I made the first challenge. Accept it or reject it.

> I am available 24/7, with advance notice.

> I will play in as many of these tournaments as possible.

> For every tournament we both play, there is a $20 side bet.

> If neither of us cash, there is no bet.

> If one of us cashes, and the other doesn't, the player who cashes wins

> So in other words, you play like the retard you are, and cash 26%


> I play correctly and cash 22%, but show a large profit because I actually
> see the final table occasionally.
> I'm not saying you can't crawl into the money more than me, idiot boy.
> Raider does that already.
> I just make have made more profit this year than the two of you put together

How would you possibly know???

> (Of course, you're LOSING, so)

NO I AM NOT. Your OPR database is seriously incomplete. Raider and I
have both explained this to you, but you won't listen.

>  Full tilt. 2 tourneys a week for x months.
> Better profit wins.

I am not interested in some long drawn out affair, where the bet isn't
settled for months. A prop bet on every tournament we both enter is
perfectly reasonable.

> Put up or shut up, Wilma.

Why do you persist in calling me by a woman's name??? I am ten times
the man you will ever be, by any measure you care to use. You know
for a fact that I would stomp you into a greasespot on the ground in a
few seconds. By your own admission, if you ever faced a physical
confrontation with me, you would run away. Like a little girl.

> $20.

> If we both cash, the player with the higher cash wins $20.

> Very simple.  But you won't take the bet because --

> You know you would be crushed in PS NL MTT with $11 or higher buyins.

> You know I would crush you in the prop bet.

> You can't bullshit your way out of this one, idiot.

> Well, Cockwoman, you can lie all you want.

Cockwoman??? You are real fucking brave, hiding behind your anonymous
screen name. Sooner or later, you will answer to me for all the
insults demeaning my masculinity.

> Until you show a profit somewhere, I'll just laugh at your ass.

I already have. +377% ROI for over 300 tournaments.

> If you think you are a better tournament player than I am, then list
> the PS NL MTT which you can play.

> None, WIlma.

Thanks for confirming you are a cowardly weasel.

> You better get over to Tilt then.
> You're afraid to play there, aren't you.
> Tell the truth.

Why would I be afraid to play there??? I made the first challenge.
Accept it or reject it.

> Failure to do so will be conclusive proof that you KNOW I am a
> stronger tournament player than you are.

> Not remotely.


> You failing to play on tilt will be.

O I C. Your failure to accept my challenge doesn't show that you know
I am a stronger player, but if I don't accept your counterchallenge,
then that means I know you are the stronger player. LOL. You are a
joke.

> You said repeatedly 24/7.... but not on tilt?
> What the fuck, Bitch.... are you a fuckbitch?

Just keep shooting your mouth off. You will have to deal with me in
person someday. You won't like the results.

> Like I said, you are a cowardly weasel.

> Not EVER afraid of some old, washed up, never was who doesn't understand
> ANYTHING about tournament theory.

Of course you are afraid of me. Otherwise, you would accept my
challenge.

Like I said, you are a cowardly weasel.


William Coleman (ramashiva)


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"ramashiva" <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Nov 27, 5:53 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
wrote:

> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:fb5a31b7-8805-4f79...@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com...

> On Nov 27, 2:54 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
> wrote:

> > "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> > Based on your idiotic strategy posts, where everything you say is 100%
> > incorrect, I KNOW for a certainty that I am a much stronger tournament
> > player than you are.
> > You know it too, because I offered you many opportunities to play in
> > the same PS MTT tournaments with me, with a side bet on who would make
> > the greater cash. You consistently dodged these offers and made lame
> > excuses.
> > Shit for brains "I have to work" is a legitimate reason.

> No it is not. You are a cowardly weasel.

> Fuck you.
> I offered to play you in the Midnight Madness two nights a week for as
> long
> as you want on tilt.

Newsflash!!! I challenged you first.

***
Newsflash! You offered to play me when I work or when I sleep!
BIIIIIG BRAVE BILLIE BOY!
****


Accept or reject the
challenge. You don't get to make a counterchallenge.

***
Sure I do.
Who the fuck are you?
Besides some washed up ,never was ,asswipe

***


You are a cowardly weasel.

***
Assjammer, believe me, I'm not afraid of matching skill with ANY idiot who
thinks $1000 should best be used playing $100 buy in tournaments.

> You cut and ran like the cowardly little bitch you are.

I did no such thing. You are the one who cut and run by refusing to
accept my challenge.

***
No, shithead.
I told you at every point I had to work.
In between dildo-thrusts, you pretended not to see and posted more crap
about 'your tournament'.

Fuck you, Willie.
Play Tilt or shut your ass tight.


> The PS NL MTT run at all hours of the day and night.

> Lying sack of shit.
> The schedule was posted and I'm asleep or working at some point during all
> of them.
> You love to lie, don't you, Wilma.

No that would be you. Anyone interested can just look at the PS NL
MTT schedule and see that these tournaments do indeed run at all hours
of the day and night.

***
No, they don't.

Feel free to prove me wrong.
List the tournaments that start between 9pm and midnight EST on Tuesdays and
Saturdays, Wilma.


> Plus, you have
> two days off. Plus, you spend endless hours everyday spewing your
> idiocy on RGP.

> Fuckhead, I have two nights off.
> I still need to sleep first, and be functional when I play.

Excuses, excuses. Put the fuck up or admit you KNOW I am a stronger
tournament player than you are.

***
I know you've figured out your only chance is if I'm too tired to think
clearly.
Won't work, knob-polisher.
***


> There are clearly PS NL MTT you could play if you wanted to.

> Nope
> I mean, I could bend over backwards to get into one.
> I couldn't restructure my life for a long period of time.

More cowardly weaseling.
***
Any shithead who fantasizes so hard about strippers he invents one that
falls in love with him....
***


> But fuck, you have no life, so why aren't you leaping to play me in the
> Midnight Madness on tilt?

Because I challenged you first, asshole.

***
IOW, you know you can't beat me, so you need to ride this horse instead.
***


Your failure to accept my
challenge proves beyond any doubt that you are a cowardly weasel.

***
No, it proves I can't play then.
I, shithead, didn't claim to be available 24/7
YOU did.
And now you won't make reasonable availability accomodations.
So FUCK YOU.
***

> $11 buy in, 2000 people fields.
> You could donk off REAL quick

> If you really believed all your bullshit about my being a terrible
> tournament player, you would jump at the chance to make $20 side bets
> on $11 tournaments.

> Why?
> They're high variance.

> You're too chickenshit to take my prop bet, because you know you'd get
> your
> ass handed to you.

Bullshit. I made the first challenge. Accept it or reject it. If
you don't accept it, you are a cowardly weasel.

***
No, I'm a tired employee who knows better than to sign up for a potentially
12+hour tournament on no sleep
***

> But you don't believe it. You know I am a much stronger tournament
> player than you are.

> FUCK YOU, RETARD.

> You're too chickenshit to play on tilt.
> You suck ass when you play on stars.

Nope. For the 314 tournaments in my PT database, my ROI is +377%.

***
In the mind-fuck that is Coleman, perhaps.
In the actual Database, you've donked off about $350 playing on Stars this
year

***


> So I will renew my challenge, idiot.

> Please list the PS NL MTT with entry fees of $11 or higher which you
> can play. Please don't claim there are none. That doesn't pass the
> laugh test.

> Fuck you, retard boy.
> It's been done.

> Tilt. Midnight. Two nights a week.
> Play or STFD and STFU.

Again, I made the first challenge. Accept it or reject it.

***
It's been rejected due to scheduling conflict, fuckhead.
Something within my schedule has been offered to you, but since you know
you'd get your ass kicked, you keep declining
***


> I am available 24/7, with advance notice.

> I will play in as many of these tournaments as possible.

> For every tournament we both play, there is a $20 side bet.

> If neither of us cash, there is no bet.

> If one of us cashes, and the other doesn't, the player who cashes wins

> So in other words, you play like the retard you are, and cash 26%
> I play correctly and cash 22%, but show a large profit because I actually
> see the final table occasionally.
> I'm not saying you can't crawl into the money more than me, idiot boy.
> Raider does that already.
> I just make have made more profit this year than the two of you put
> together

How would you possibly know???

***
Databases tell no lies, shithead.
***


> (Of course, you're LOSING, so)

NO I AM NOT. Your OPR database is seriously incomplete. Raider and I
have both explained this to you, but you won't listen.

***
Fuckhead, they have everything for this year.
Stop pretending to have a clue
***


> Full tilt. 2 tourneys a week for x months.
> Better profit wins.

I am not interested in some long drawn out affair, where the bet isn't
settled for months. A prop bet on every tournament we both enter is
perfectly reasonable.

***
Fuck no.
I win because I'm not trying to crawl into the money like a tired old man.
PROFIT, Willie, is the measure of a player. Well, ROI is, because it adjusts
for bankrolls
***

> Put up or shut up, Wilma.

Why do you persist in calling me by a woman's name???

***
Why not?
***


I am ten times
the man you will ever be, by any measure you care to use.

***
Surely by the size of your fat gut or your ass.
***


You know
for a fact that I would stomp you into a greasespot on the ground in a
few seconds.

***
Willie, you'd be winded long before you caught up to me.
***


By your own admission, if you ever faced a physical
confrontation with me, you would run away. Like a little girl.

***
I don't hit old farts, Wilma.
Especially mentally defective ones


> $20.

> If we both cash, the player with the higher cash wins $20.

> Very simple. But you won't take the bet because --

> You know you would be crushed in PS NL MTT with $11 or higher buyins.

> You know I would crush you in the prop bet.

> You can't bullshit your way out of this one, idiot.

> Well, Cockwoman, you can lie all you want.

Cockwoman??? You are real fucking brave, hiding behind your anonymous
screen name. Sooner or later, you will answer to me for all the
insults demeaning my masculinity.

***
At least I don't invent stripper girlfriends to feel like less of a shit.
***

> Until you show a profit somewhere, I'll just laugh at your ass.

I already have. +377% ROI for over 300 tournaments.

***
Sure
Keep that self delusion going
***


> If you think you are a better tournament player than I am, then list
> the PS NL MTT which you can play.

> None, WIlma.

Thanks for confirming you are a cowardly weasel.

***
Confirming I need to sleep, cockwoman
***

> You better get over to Tilt then.
> You're afraid to play there, aren't you.
> Tell the truth.

Why would I be afraid to play there???

***
because you know you're my BITCH, Wilma
***


I made the first challenge.
Accept it or reject it.

> Failure to do so will be conclusive proof that you KNOW I am a
> stronger tournament player than you are.

> Not remotely.
> You failing to play on tilt will be.

O I C. Your failure to accept my challenge doesn't show that you know
I am a stronger player, but if I don't accept your counterchallenge,
then that means I know you are the stronger player. LOL. You are a
joke.

***
Wilma, YOU stated 24-7 availability.
I sure as hell didn't.
I have a job, a family, and commitments.
All you have to do is jerk off in trees.
***


> You said repeatedly 24/7.... but not on tilt?
> What the fuck, Bitch.... are you a fuckbitch?

Just keep shooting your mouth off. You will have to deal with me in
person someday. You won't like the results.

***
Wilma, don't ever take a swing at me.
I'll fall down, and a host of lawyers will pick me up.
Your trailer isn't much, but I'm sure the lawyers could sell it off ok
Insult me all you want, shithead. I don't mess with your body, your family,
your real existence.
I just point out your Ramashiva persona is a fucking loon.
You lose track of what is flame-war and what is real, you'll lose track of
some possessions too.
***

> Like I said, you are a cowardly weasel.

> Not EVER afraid of some old, washed up, never was who doesn't understand
> ANYTHING about tournament theory.

Of course you are afraid of me. Otherwise, you would accept my
challenge.

***
Are you always this deluded?
***

Like I said, you are a cowardly weasel.

***
Wilma, you're afraid to play, and the whole group knows it.


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On Nov 27, 8:11 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
wrote:

> Wilma, you're afraid to play, and the whole group knows it.

Don't be an idiot. You don't speak for the newsgroup.

You are a cowardly weasel and you know it.

There is not a single PS NL MTT you can play???

You are lying. There is a $22 PS NL MTT which goes off every night at
9 pm PST, the exact same time as Midnight Madness.

Please explain why you can play Midnight Madness, but not a PS
tournament starting at the exact same time.


William Coleman (ramashiva)

phlash74

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He'd be a fucking retard if he didn't call with the tens there. For
one thing, the reason the overbet jam with AA works is because 90% of
the time that bet in low level donkaments means a weak ace or a baby
pair. Secondly, it's a REBUY tournament. If you have a better hand or
you suck out with a worse one, he can always rebuy. Also, the fact
that it's a rebuy increases the chance that the jam is a worse hand
than his TT.

Michael

Raider Fan

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On Nov 27 2009 12:50 PM, phlash74 wrote:

>
> He'd be a fucking retard if he didn't call with the tens there. For
> one thing, the reason the overbet jam with AA works is because 90% of
> the time that bet in low level donkaments means a weak ace or a baby
> pair. Secondly, it's a REBUY tournament. If you have a better hand or
> you suck out with a worse one, he can always rebuy. Also, the fact
> that it's a rebuy increases the chance that the jam is a worse hand
> than his TT.
>

Exactly. But don't tell Beldonk that. He wastes AA with a preflop shove
during the rebuy period with a crazy low stack and then bitches when he's
lucky enough to get called with his terrible play.

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i do the "over-jam" all the time ... I know the TVSMorons cant fold A-10
or 66..or even A-8 suited .

And as for people who think the 10-10 wasnt a moron ?

When your opponent gets you to call all your chips with a hand in that bad
of shape .. I dont think your opponent is the fool .


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misanthropic whackjob

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In the first (or second I guess this was) round of a rebuy? I wouldn't
lay TT down there unless I already had 30k chips and so did you.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyM4uAJBujA

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phlash74

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I never said Beldin played it wrong. I said the TT's call was good
because people will jam there with much worse. I won a 180 man tourney
the other day where the key hand at the FT was when someone open-
jammed for 25 BB with A6o and I picked him off with AT. TT is well
ahead of the RANGE of hands an average player would jam, which is why
you can get a call with AA by jamming there.

Michael

Beldin the Sorcerer

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Another shithead who can't read.
It's a 1+1.
You can rebuy once. You can add on ONCE, if you don't bust out.
Anyone calls ME with TT there is a total retard.

My range for that shove is KK AA AK
And AK only sometimes


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"ramashiva" <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Nov 27, 8:11 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
wrote:

> Wilma, you're afraid to play, and the whole group knows it.

Don't be an idiot. You don't speak for the newsgroup.

***
I don't need to speak for them. They all know you're a whackjob.
***

You are a cowardly weasel and you know it.

There is not a single PS NL MTT you can play???

You are lying. There is a $22 PS NL MTT which goes off every night at
9 pm PST, the exact same time as Midnight Madness.

***
That's a $22, not an $11
That's not a deep stack tournament, a requirement by you the last time
around.

You wanna play the $2 at midnight and the $3 at 1am for a month, sing out

I can handle that easily.
Of course, you suck at it.
***

Please explain why you can play Midnight Madness, but not a PS
tournament starting at the exact same time.

***
Because you changed your requirements, firstly.
Secondly, because I don't have much ON stars, shithhead.


Beldin the Sorcerer

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For fuck's sake, another retard.

>For
> one thing, the reason the overbet jam with AA works is because 90% of
> the time that bet in low level donkaments means a weak ace or a baby
> pair.

No.
If the raiser is a RETARD, sure.
But only then
Because, idiot boy,. a NON-retard knows these morons CALL with small pairs.
It's third level thinking, and retards ignore that.

> Secondly, it's a REBUY tournament.

No, moron, it's a 1+1
It's not a 'rebuy' it's a "you can fuck up once and only once

If you have a better hand or
> you suck out with a worse one, he can always rebuy. Also, the fact
> that it's a rebuy increases the chance that the jam is a worse hand
> than his TT.

Wrong on all counts
My range for that play is AA KK AK
AK about 50% of the time


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"Raider Fan" <raidersgo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 27 2009 12:50 PM, phlash74 wrote:
>
>>
>> He'd be a fucking retard if he didn't call with the tens there. For
>> one thing, the reason the overbet jam with AA works is because 90% of
>> the time that bet in low level donkaments means a weak ace or a baby
>> pair. Secondly, it's a REBUY tournament. If you have a better hand or
>> you suck out with a worse one, he can always rebuy. Also, the fact
>> that it's a rebuy increases the chance that the jam is a worse hand
>> than his TT.
>>
>
> Exactly. But don't tell Beldonk that. He wastes AA with a preflop shove
> during the rebuy period with a crazy low stack and then bitches when he's
> lucky enough to get called with his terrible play.

Raider, you're slipping into total shit for brains mode.
It's NOT a rebuy, it's a save your ass from a suckout once.
The play was perfect.
A retard like you would raise small, get 7 way action, and get it in way
behind at some point during the hand


Beldin the Sorcerer

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> _____________________________________________________________________?


> * kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com

I never said Beldin played it wrong. I said the TT's call was good
because people will jam there with much worse. I won a 180 man tourney
the other day where the key hand at the FT was when someone open-
jammed for 25 BB with A6o and I picked him off with AT. TT is well
ahead of the RANGE of hands an average player would jam, which is why
you can get a call with AA by jamming there.

***
No, it's a little ahead of the moron range, and well behind even the
competent range of hands

Say someone looser than me, but solid does it.
AQ, AK, AA KK QQ JJ TT

You like that range against TT?
Seriously?


Alim Nassor

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On Nov 28, 9:18 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
wrote:

> Wrong on all counts


> My range for that play is AA KK AK

> AK about 50% of the time- Hide quoted text -
>

And this guy, who has played with you maybe an hour, knows this how?

ramashiva

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On Nov 28, 6:16 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
wrote:

> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:176f97a9-7f57-4a43...@x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

> On Nov 27, 8:11 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net> wrote:

> > Wilma, you're afraid to play, and the whole group knows it.

> Don't be an idiot.  You don't speak for the newsgroup.

> I don't need to speak for them. They all know you're a whackjob.

Still speaking for the newsgroup. Maybe you haven't noticed, but you
are almost universally reviled on this newsgroup, while I get respect
from many.

> You are a cowardly weasel and you know it.

> There is not a single PS NL MTT you can play???

> You are lying.  There is a $22 PS NL MTT which goes off every night at
> 9 pm PST, the exact same time as Midnight Madness.

> That's a $22, not an $11.

So what? If you actually had the $1000 bankroll you claim, a $22
tournament is quite modest.

> That's not a deep stack tournament, a requirement by you the last time around.

False. That was never a requirement. I challenged you to play in
many PS NL MTT which were not deep stack.

> You wanna play the $2 at midnight and the $3 at 1am for a month, sing out

I don't play microtournaments, and you are an idiot for playing that
small with your purported $1000 bankroll.

> I can handle that easily.
> Of course, you suck at it.

Yeah, I suck at it. That's why I am challenging you to play, and you
are coming up with one lame excuse after another for why you can't
play.

You are a lying cowardly weasel.

> Please explain why you can play Midnight Madness, but not a PS
> tournament starting at the exact same time.

> Because you changed your requirements, firstly.

You are lying. The last time around, I never insisted that the
tournaments be deep stack. I offered to play you in many PS NL MTT
which were not deep stack.

And you are saying you can't play the midnight PS tournament BECAUSE I
changed my requirements??? Just how illogical are you???

> Secondly, because I don't have much ON stars, shithhead.

That has to be the lamest excuse ever. Ever hear of making a
deposit???

Bottom line. You are a lying cowardly weasel. Contrary to your
assertion, there are four PS NL MTT during the time period you say you
can play.

Your excuse that you can't play on PokerStars because you don't have
money there has to be the lamest excuse ever.

Face it. You know I am a much stronger tournament player than you
are. You know you would be totally embarrassed if you played the same
tournaments I did and we compared results.


William Coleman (ramashiva)

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The fact that the guy (and all the other "morons" in the moron posts)
can't see Beldin's hole cards is lost on Beldin. He stupidly believes
that everybody should know that he only pushes with the nuts.

"This has got to be some sports-related crap, that's all Raiderfan gives a
fuck about." -- Paul Popinjay 2/27/09

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"Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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***
He has no evidence I'm a moron.
Assuming it and calling with TT is why he's an idiot


Alim Nassor

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On Nov 28, 10:32 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
wrote:

> He has no evidence I'm a moron.


> Assuming it and calling with TT is why he's an idiot


Maybe he reads RGP.

Beldin the Sorcerer

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"ramashiva" <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Nov 28, 6:16 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
wrote:

> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:176f97a9-7f57-4a43...@x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

> On Nov 27, 8:11 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net> wrote:

> > Wilma, you're afraid to play, and the whole group knows it.

> Don't be an idiot. You don't speak for the newsgroup.

> I don't need to speak for them. They all know you're a whackjob.

Still speaking for the newsgroup. Maybe you haven't noticed, but you
are almost universally reviled on this newsgroup, while I get respect
from many.

***
You get respect from your sockpuppets.
Meanwhile, Gary Carson, who's no fan of mine, I must add, agrees, you suck
at tourneys

> You are a cowardly weasel and you know it.

Nope


> There is not a single PS NL MTT you can play???

> You are lying. There is a $22 PS NL MTT which goes off every night at
> 9 pm PST, the exact same time as Midnight Madness.

And you take it in the ass daily


> That's a $22, not an $11.

So what? If you actually had the $1000 bankroll you claim, a $22
tournament is quite modest.

***
Shithead, I have money on tilt, not stars
AND, shit for brains, anything above 2% of your roll is too much


> That's not a deep stack tournament, a requirement by you the last time
> around.

False. That was never a requirement. I challenged you to play in
many PS NL MTT which were not deep stack.

***
Fuck you it wasn't.

Raider already stated it was.
You already admitted it.
You're yet again documented in a lie

> You wanna play the $2 at midnight and the $3 at 1am for a month, sing out

I don't play microtournaments, and you are an idiot for playing that
small with your purported $1000 bankroll.

***
Shithead, I have 2 figures on stars

2% buy in cap in any deep field event, shithead
Beyond that, the risk of ruin is far too great

Go read snyder and maybe you'll suck a little less

> I can handle that easily.
> Of course, you suck at it.

Yeah, I suck at it. That's why I am challenging you to play, and you
are coming up with one lame excuse after another for why you can't
play.

***
No, fuckhead
You're refusing to play where I have my on-line roll, so you can thump
chest, jerk off in public, and not risk getting your ass kicked
***

You are a lying cowardly weasel.

***
Nope
***

> Please explain why you can play Midnight Madness, but not a PS
> tournament starting at the exact same time.

> Because you changed your requirements, firstly.

You are lying. The last time around, I never insisted that the
tournaments be deep stack. I offered to play you in many PS NL MTT
which were not deep stack.

***
Fuckhead, you posted the deep stack schedule.
RAIDER just posted that that was your requirement the last time AND YOU
AGREED with him
WHY are you this retarded?
***

And you are saying you can't play the midnight PS tournament BECAUSE I
changed my requirements??? Just how illogical are you???

***
No, shithead,. I said I didn't CONSIDER it for that reason.
It's above my stars bankroll
It's above my online bankroll
I'm not playing $22 tournaments on a regular basis, particularly with your
idiotic prop bet.

You'll crawl into the money a little more, win a lot less, and think you're
skilled


> Secondly, because I don't have much ON stars, shithhead.

That has to be the lamest excuse ever. Ever hear of making a
deposit???

***
Fuck no.
I don't deposit, shithead.
***

Bottom line. You are a lying cowardly weasel. Contrary to your
assertion, there are four PS NL MTT during the time period you say you
can play.

***
No, you're a dirt bag who changes the rules and doesn't state so, and then
whacks his cock off in public when I missed it the first time.
***

Your excuse that you can't play on PokerStars because you don't have
money there has to be the lamest excuse ever.

***
No, it's a statement of fact.
I'm not playing the heads up because I only have about $20 there and can't
commit to a bunch of $1 tournaments, shithead.
***


Face it. You know I am a much stronger tournament player than you
are. You know you would be totally embarrassed if you played the same
tournaments I did and we compared results.

***
Willie, you suck so bad it's embarrassing to even discuss poker with you


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"Raider Fan" <raidersgo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 28 2009 8:55 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:
>
>> On Nov 28, 9:18 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Wrong on all counts
>> > My range for that play is AA KK AK
>> > AK about 50% of the time- Hide quoted text -
>> >
>>
>> And this guy, who has played with you maybe an hour, knows this how?
>
> The fact that the guy (and all the other "morons" in the moron posts)
> can't see Beldin's hole cards is lost on Beldin. He stupidly believes
> that everybody should know that he only pushes with the nuts.
No, you flaming idiot.
I think you shouldn't ASSUME someone pushing is as stupid as that moron you
saw shove with A9o once


ramashiva

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On Nov 28, 7:41 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
wrote:

> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:9377515c-19b5-4460...@u18g2000pro.googlegroups.com...

> On Nov 28, 6:16 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net> wrote:

> > "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >news:176f97a9-7f57-4a43...@x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

> > On Nov 27, 8:11 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net> wrote:

> > > Wilma, you're afraid to play, and the whole group knows it.
> > Don't be an idiot. You don't speak for the newsgroup.
> > I don't need to speak for them. They all know you're a whackjob.
>
> Still speaking for the newsgroup.  Maybe you haven't noticed, but you
> are almost universally reviled on this newsgroup, while I get respect
> from many.

> You get respect from your sockpuppets.

LOL. I have no sockpuppets. You are delusional. Get help.

> Meanwhile, Gary Carson, who's no fan of mine, I must add, agrees, you suck
> at tourneys

Gary Carson, like you is a bullshitting asshole who says I am a
terrible tournament player, but who refuses a perfectly reasonable
prop bet to compare his tournament ability with mine.

> > You are a cowardly weasel and you know it.

> Nope

> > There is not a single PS NL MTT you can play???
> > You are lying. There is a $22 PS NL MTT which goes off every night at
> > 9 pm PST, the exact same time as Midnight Madness.

> And you take it in the ass daily

> > That's a $22, not an $11.

> So what?  If you actually had the $1000 bankroll you claim, a $22
> tournament is quite modest.

> Shithead, I have money on tilt, not stars

Then put some money on PS with a deposit or a swap.

> AND, shit for brains, anything above 2% of your roll is too much

2% of $1000 is $20. What is the problem with playing a $22
tournament???

Here is the basic formula for sizing bets in all forms of gambling --

bet size = ROI x Bankroll.

If you have a 10% ROI, you should be willing to bet 10% of your
bankroll on each tournament. You claim to have a $1000 bankroll and a
fantastic ROI. Playing in microtournaments shows you do not
understand bankroll management.

> > That's not a deep stack tournament, a requirement by you the last time
> > around.

> False.  That was never a requirement.  I challenged you to play in
> many PS NL MTT which were not deep stack.

> Fuck you it wasn't.

> Raider already stated it was.

Raider's memory is incorrect. The last go around, I stated a
preference for deep stack. I also offered to play you in many PS NL


MTT which were not deep stack.

> You already admitted it.

I admitted no such thing.

> You're yet again documented in a lie

You have never documented me lying, and you never will, because I
don't lie. Just because you are a pathological liar, that doesn't
mean everyone else is. Stop projecting.

> > You wanna play the $2 at midnight and the $3 at 1am for a month, sing out

> I don't play microtournaments, and you are an idiot for playing that
> small with your purported $1000 bankroll.

> Shithead, I have 2 figures on stars

But you claim a $1000 (LMFAO!) bankroll on Full Tilt. Surely even an
idiot like you can figure out how to get as much of that $1000 as you
need to PokerStars. Here's a hint. Cash out from Full Tilt. Deposit
on PokerStars.

> 2% buy in cap in any deep field event, shithead
> Beyond that, the risk of ruin is far too great

False. Your tournament buyin should be proportional to the product of
your ROI and bankroll.

> Go read snyder and maybe you'll suck a little less

I read the book. I understood it. You didn't.

> > I can handle that easily.
> > Of course, you suck at it.

> Yeah, I suck at it.  That's why I am challenging you to play, and you
> are coming up with one lame excuse after another for why you can't
> play.

> No, fuckhead


> You're refusing to play where I have my on-line roll, so you can thump
> chest, jerk off in public, and not risk getting your ass kicked

You are a complete idiot. You can easily get money from FT to PS. IF
YOU WANTED TO.

Your excuse here is just as lame as all your other excuses.

> You are a lying cowardly weasel.

> Nope

> > Please explain why you can play Midnight Madness, but not a PS
> > tournament starting at the exact same time.
> > Because you changed your requirements, firstly.

> You are lying.  The last time around, I never insisted that the
> tournaments be deep stack.  I offered to play you in many PS NL MTT
> which were not deep stack.

> Fuckhead, you posted the deep stack schedule.

Nope. That was Raider.

> RAIDER just posted that that was your requirement the last time

Raider's memory is faulty. Last time I offered to play you in many PS


NL MTT which were not deep stack.

> AND YOU AGREED with him

No I did not. You are lying.

> WHY are you this retarded?

> And you are saying you can't play the midnight PS tournament BECAUSE I


> changed my requirements???  Just how illogical are you???

> No, shithead,. I said I didn't CONSIDER it for that reason.


> It's above my stars bankroll
> It's above my online bankroll
> I'm not playing $22 tournaments on a regular basis, particularly with your
> idiotic prop bet.

> You'll crawl into the money a little more, win a lot less, and think you're
> skilled

> > Secondly, because I don't have much ON stars, shithhead.

> That has to be the lamest excuse ever.  Ever hear of making a
> deposit???

> Fuck no.


> I don't deposit, shithead.

What kind of lame excuse is that??? Cash out from FT and deposit on
PS. Simple. If you wanted to play me, that is what you would do. We
both know you are terrified of playing me. End of story.

> Bottom line.  You are a lying cowardly weasel.  Contrary to your
> assertion, there are four PS NL MTT during the time period you say you
> can play.

> No, you're a dirt bag who changes the rules and doesn't state so, and then


> whacks his cock off in public when I missed it the first time.

First of all, what was discussed months ago is irrelevant. Most
recently, I made you a prop offer which did not require deep stack
tournaments.

Second of all, the first go around, I did not restrict my offer to
deep stack tournaments. I offered to play you in many PS NL MTT which
were not deep stack.

> Your excuse that you can't play on PokerStars because you don't have


> money there has to be the lamest excuse ever.

> No, it's a statement of fact.

Yes, it's a statement of fact that you don't have money there. It's
also a statement of fact that you could easily get money there if you
wanted to. You don't want to. We both know that.

> I'm not playing the heads up because I only have about $20 there and can't
> commit to a bunch of $1 tournaments, shithead.

> Face it.  You know I am a much stronger tournament player than you


> are.  You know you would be totally embarrassed if you played the same
> tournaments I did and we compared results.

> Willie, you suck so bad it's embarrassing to even discuss poker with you

But of course, you won't put your money where your mouth is.

You are a lying, cowardly weasel.


William Coleman (ramashiva)


misanthropic whackjob

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Only if you are the most weak-tight player of all time (you are, aren't
you?) Anyway, virtually everyone calls there with the TT and if it loses,
they rebuy, tighten up and play it like it is a freeze out.


--
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Beldin the Sorcerer

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"misanthropic whackjob" <aca...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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No, only if I'm solid. Christ, where do you idiots come from?


(you are, aren't
> you?) Anyway, virtually everyone calls there with the TT and if it loses,
> they rebuy, tighten up and play it like it is a freeze out.

Only a retard calls there with TT
I'll put you in my idiot file


Beldin the Sorcerer

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"ramashiva" <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Nov 28, 7:41 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
wrote:

> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:9377515c-19b5-4460...@u18g2000pro.googlegroups.com...

> On Nov 28, 6:16 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net> wrote:

> > "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >news:176f97a9-7f57-4a43...@x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

> > On Nov 27, 8:11 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net> wrote:

> > > Wilma, you're afraid to play, and the whole group knows it.
> > Don't be an idiot. You don't speak for the newsgroup.
> > I don't need to speak for them. They all know you're a whackjob.
>
> Still speaking for the newsgroup. Maybe you haven't noticed, but you
> are almost universally reviled on this newsgroup, while I get respect
> from many.

> You get respect from your sockpuppets.

LOL. I have no sockpuppets. You are delusional. Get help.

***
Yeah, you're a complete whack job, puppet boy
***

> Meanwhile, Gary Carson, who's no fan of mine, I must add, agrees, you suck
> at tourneys

Gary Carson, like you is a bullshitting asshole who says I am a
terrible tournament player, but who refuses a perfectly reasonable
prop bet to compare his tournament ability with mine.

***
No, Carson's a published poker author with a much deeper understanding of
the game than you and, while not a tournament expert, he can spot idiot
bullshit with the best of them.
You suck, Wilma
***


> > You are a cowardly weasel and you know it.

> Nope

> > There is not a single PS NL MTT you can play???
> > You are lying. There is a $22 PS NL MTT which goes off every night at
> > 9 pm PST, the exact same time as Midnight Madness.

> And you take it in the ass daily

> > That's a $22, not an $11.

> So what? If you actually had the $1000 bankroll you claim, a $22
> tournament is quite modest.

Willie, go grab a copy of Snyder and read the section on bankroll
management. Pay attention to the requirements for "At least 100% roi"
otherwise add more to this.
I realize you're a tournament moron, and don't understand tournament
variance, but christ almighty.

> Shithead, I have money on tilt, not stars

Then put some money on PS with a deposit or a swap.

***
You come play at tilt.
Whassamatter, Bill?
Got someone to play tournaments on your account on Stars or something?
***

> AND, shit for brains, anything above 2% of your roll is too much

2% of $1000 is $20. What is the problem with playing a $22
tournament???

***
In the minds of everyone else, the answer is obvious. In the mind of
Ramashiva, is 22 more than 20?
***


Here is the basic formula for sizing bets in all forms of gambling --

bet size = ROI x Bankroll.

***
Shithead, that is totally wrong in regard to tournament theory.
Tournament variance is a function of buy in, skill level of player, skill
level of opponents (always a general unknown) and, MOST IMPORTANTLY field
size.

RETARDS, totally ignorant of tournament theory, cite Kelly and go broke soon


If you have a 10% ROI, you should be willing to bet 10% of your
bankroll on each tournament. You claim to have a $1000 bankroll and a
fantastic ROI. Playing in microtournaments shows you do not
understand bankroll management.

***
No, it shows you're completely ignorant of tournament theory.
But fuck, your losses show that already
An approximation of Snyder's correct bankroll requirements for tourneys
2xB*1/roi*Sqr(FS)
B=buyin roi is return on investment as a fraction, and fs is field size

If you're playing a tournament with 10,000 people in it, for 11 bucks, and
your win rate is 100%, you need a bankroll of 2x11x(1/1)x100 = 2200 bucks
If your win rate is 10%, you'd need 22000
See how clueless you are, Willie.
You give terrible advice, with no issue at all to how stupid it is

This doesn't mean you can't take a shot at a tournament.
Most people aren't bankrolled well enough for, say, the main event of the
WSOP

Doing it regularly, of course, is just stupid

***


> > That's not a deep stack tournament, a requirement by you the last time
> > around.

> False. That was never a requirement. I challenged you to play in
> many PS NL MTT which were not deep stack.

> Fuck you it wasn't.

> Raider already stated it was.

Raider's memory is incorrect. The last go around, I stated a
preference for deep stack. I also offered to play you in many PS NL
MTT which were not deep stack.

***
No, shithead.
You INSISTED on deep stacks because "they require you to know how to play
poker"

Here's a cite, shithead :
To which I will of course respond --


"Wrong again, idiot. Everyone who has read my prop bet negotiations
knows I have told Dogfucker that I don't care what days or times we
play the NL Deep Stack Tournaments. I just want us to play in the
same tournaments at the same time."


http://groups.google.mv/group/rec.gambling.poker/browse_thread/thread/9eb6ddd2d350c5aa/91c954d49ded2f83?lnk=raot

> You already admitted it.

I admitted no such thing.

***
Yes, you did
***


> You're yet again documented in a lie

You have never documented me lying, and you never will, because I
don't lie. Just because you are a pathological liar, that doesn't
mean everyone else is. Stop projecting.

***
Willie, you lie so often you can't tell fact from fiction
***

> > You wanna play the $2 at midnight and the $3 at 1am for a month, sing
> > out

> I don't play microtournaments, and you are an idiot for playing that
> small with your purported $1000 bankroll.

> Shithead, I have 2 figures on stars

But you claim a $1000 (LMFAO!) bankroll on Full Tilt. Surely even an
idiot like you can figure out how to get as much of that $1000 as you
need to PokerStars. Here's a hint. Cash out from Full Tilt. Deposit
on PokerStars.

***
I don 't deposit


> 2% buy in cap in any deep field event, shithead
> Beyond that, the risk of ruin is far too great

False. Your tournament buyin should be proportional to the product of
your ROI and bankroll.

***
Yet another proof of your total lack of tournament theory understanding.


> Go read snyder and maybe you'll suck a little less

I read the book. I understood it. You didn't.

***
Of course you didn't read the book.
If you did, you wouldn't be arguing with me about bankroll.
His formula is explicit, and you're nowhere near it
***


> > I can handle that easily.
> > Of course, you suck at it.

> Yeah, I suck at it. That's why I am challenging you to play, and you
> are coming up with one lame excuse after another for why you can't
> play.

> No, fuckhead
> You're refusing to play where I have my on-line roll, so you can thump
> chest, jerk off in public, and not risk getting your ass kicked

You are a complete idiot. You can easily get money from FT to PS. IF
YOU WANTED TO.

***
Not really.
However, if it's so easy, you do it to tilt
What's the difference, Wilma?
You got a horse lined up to play your account for you on Stars?
***

Your excuse here is just as lame as all your other excuses.

***
You're hopelessly deranged
***

> You are a lying cowardly weasel.

> Nope

> > Please explain why you can play Midnight Madness, but not a PS
> > tournament starting at the exact same time.
> > Because you changed your requirements, firstly.

> You are lying. The last time around, I never insisted that the
> tournaments be deep stack. I offered to play you in many PS NL MTT
> which were not deep stack.

> Fuckhead, you posted the deep stack schedule.

Nope. That was Raider.

> RAIDER just posted that that was your requirement the last time

Raider's memory is faulty. Last time I offered to play you in many PS
NL MTT which were not deep stack.

***
Nope
You wanted deep stack
You thumped your chest about deep stack
You masturbated wildly to the thought of deep stacks

Ultimately, you pissed away a lot of money
Because you suck


> AND YOU AGREED with him

No I did not. You are lying.

> WHY are you this retarded?

> And you are saying you can't play the midnight PS tournament BECAUSE I
> changed my requirements??? Just how illogical are you???

> No, shithead,. I said I didn't CONSIDER it for that reason.
> It's above my stars bankroll
> It's above my online bankroll
> I'm not playing $22 tournaments on a regular basis, particularly with your
> idiotic prop bet.

> You'll crawl into the money a little more, win a lot less, and think
> you're
> skilled

> > Secondly, because I don't have much ON stars, shithhead.

> That has to be the lamest excuse ever. Ever hear of making a
> deposit???

> Fuck no.
> I don't deposit, shithead.

What kind of lame excuse is that??? Cash out from FT and deposit on
PS. Simple. If you wanted to play me, that is what you would do. We
both know you are terrified of playing me. End of story.

***
Shithead, I'm thrilled to kick your ass
The last tournament we were both in you donked out like a fuckhead and I
came in second
***


> Bottom line. You are a lying cowardly weasel. Contrary to your
> assertion, there are four PS NL MTT during the time period you say you
> can play.

> No, you're a dirt bag who changes the rules and doesn't state so, and then
> whacks his cock off in public when I missed it the first time.

First of all, what was discussed months ago is irrelevant. Most
recently, I made you a prop offer which did not require deep stack
tournaments.

***
Shithead, there was no reason to believe your proposed bet had changed terms
***

Second of all, the first go around, I did not restrict my offer to
deep stack tournaments. I offered to play you in many PS NL MTT which
were not deep stack.

***
Nope
I cited your post
Go ram your ass some more
***

> Your excuse that you can't play on PokerStars because you don't have
> money there has to be the lamest excuse ever.

> No, it's a statement of fact.

Yes, it's a statement of fact that you don't have money there. It's
also a statement of fact that you could easily get money there if you
wanted to. You don't want to. We both know that.

***
Shithead, why don't you put money on tilt?
You can't cheat there?
***

> I'm not playing the heads up because I only have about $20 there and can't
> commit to a bunch of $1 tournaments, shithead.

> Face it. You know I am a much stronger tournament player than you
> are. You know you would be totally embarrassed if you played the same
> tournaments I did and we compared results.

I'm fine comparing results
I showed our results for the year
You're in the hole 350, I'm up 4 figures
***


> Willie, you suck so bad it's embarrassing to even discuss poker with you

But of course, you won't put your money where your mouth is.

***
I put my results next to yours, fuckhead

Beldin the Sorcerer

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Maybe he reads RGP.
***
That'd make the call even more stupid


Alim Nassor

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On Nov 28, 11:29 pm, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
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> "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Nope, that's the evidence you are a moron.

Beldin the Sorcerer

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***
Alim, you're fucking clueless
Take Willie's dick out of your ass and shut the fuck up


Alim Nassor

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On Nov 29, 12:07 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
wrote:

> "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d963db33-bb74-49c9...@y28g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 28, 11:29 pm, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> > "Alim Nassor" <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:42c8e2c7-dbe1-45d4...@r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> > On Nov 28, 10:32 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
> > wrote:
>
> > > He has no evidence I'm a moron.
> > > Assuming it and calling with TT is why he's an idiot
>
> > Maybe he reads RGP.
> > ***
> > That'd make the call even more stupid
>
> Nope, that's the evidence you are a moron.
> ***
> Alim, you're fucking clueless
> Take Willie's dick out of your ass and shut the fuck up

William and I agree on very little. However we can do it like
adults. One more thing you have no idea how to do.

Beldin the Sorcerer

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***
Adults don't think like three year olds
You and willie aren't wuite up to that level


Irish Mike

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Woo hoo! Beldumb the Scrotum has moved all the way up to a $5.00
tournament. Careful there Beldumb, you'll get a nose bleed playing at
that altitude.

Irish Mike

OK folks, our phone lines are open and the tenth caller will win... The
Nobel Peace Prize!

Beldin the Sorcerer

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> Woo hoo! Beldumb the Scrotum has moved all the way up to a $5.00
> tournament. Careful there Beldumb, you'll get a nose bleed playing at
> that altitude.
>
> Irish Mike
Mikey, I've played $100 tournaments

But then, my roll was significantly larger then.
The UIGEA changed my bankroll.... I pulled almost all of it off


misanthropic whackjob

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Well maybe you oughta quit watching porn when playing poker then.


--
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyM4uAJBujA

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Pepe Papon

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On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:51:01 -0800, "misanthropic whackjob"
<aca...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:

>On Dec 1 2009 6:26 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>
>> "Irish Mike" <ad7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:6bhbu6x...@recgroups.com...
>> > Woo hoo! Beldumb the Scrotum has moved all the way up to a $5.00
>> > tournament. Careful there Beldumb, you'll get a nose bleed playing at
>> > that altitude.
>> >
>> > Irish Mike
>> Mikey, I've played $100 tournaments
>>
>> But then, my roll was significantly larger then.
>> The UIGEA changed my bankroll.... I pulled almost all of it off
>
>Well maybe you oughta quit watching porn when playing poker then.

And take all the fun out of it?
--
~ Seth Jackson

MySpace URL - http://www.myspace.com/sethjacksonsong

Beldin the Sorcerer

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"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.dot.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:51:01 -0800, "misanthropic whackjob"
> <aca...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Dec 1 2009 6:26 AM, Beldin the Sorcerer wrote:
>>
>>> "Irish Mike" <ad7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:6bhbu6x...@recgroups.com...
>>> > Woo hoo! Beldumb the Scrotum has moved all the way up to a $5.00
>>> > tournament. Careful there Beldumb, you'll get a nose bleed playing at
>>> > that altitude.
>>> >
>>> > Irish Mike
>>> Mikey, I've played $100 tournaments
>>>
>>> But then, my roll was significantly larger then.
>>> The UIGEA changed my bankroll.... I pulled almost all of it off
>>
>>Well maybe you oughta quit watching porn when playing poker then.
>
> And take all the fun out of it?
Pepe, some of us need to concentrate tp play multiple tables well


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