Interpreting astrological prediction to numbers
Sundaram
and the lucky (favoable) houses and planets can be located.Usually 2 5
6 10 and 11 th
houses are projected as good.
If anyone has an idea of how the numbers 1 to 108 are distributed
around the 12 houses ,the job of locating the lucky hits will become
easy.
Of course corrections to place and time are needed ..simple enough.
Can I receive ideas of the distribution of these numbers?
I have noted that for pick 3 the 11 th house yields 2 numbers of the
three many times and it is a matter of 5 dollars for covering all the
numbers for the third...box only
welcome ideas
aumira
Paracelsus
"Sundaram" <aumi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| It is well known that a horoscope can be cast for any hour of the day
| and the lucky (favoable) houses and planets can be located.Usually 2 5
| 6 10 and 11 th
| houses are projected as good.
I'm not sure I'd include the sixth House. Lilly says it is unfortunate, as
being inconjunct to the Ascendant (Christian Astrology, 1647, p.54.)
I think I would include the eighth House of 'other people's money' to
complete the grand cross in the succeedent Houses.
|
| If anyone has an idea of how the numbers 1 to 108 are distributed
| around the 12 houses ,the job of locating the lucky hits will become
| easy.
Have you considered reducing each number to its digital root, in the finest
traditions of numerology, assigning each digital root to a planetary ruler,
finding the planets ruling the fortunate Houses, and expanding to get the
(rather large) selection of numbers to play.
|
| Of course corrections to place and time are needed ..simple enough.
| Can I receive ideas of the distribution of these numbers?
|
| I have noted that for pick 3 the 11 th house yields 2 numbers of the
| three many times and it is a matter of 5 dollars for covering all the
| numbers for the third...box only
Interesting.
|
| welcome ideas
|
| aumira
Paracelsus
| three many times and it is a matter of 5 dollars for covering all the
| numbers for the third...box only
|
Sorry, can you explain this please. How are you getting numbers from the
eleventh House?
Art
> and the lucky (favoable) houses and planets can be located.
> If anyone has an idea of how the numbers 1 to 108 are distributed
> around the 12 houses ,the job of locating the lucky hits will become
> easy.
When was each number born, and at what geographical location on the planet
was it at the time of birth?
Numbers do not exist outside of the human or animal mind. All numbers
would have the same birth date. Astrology and numbers don't work.
Astrology is the science of personality and behavioral traits of an
individual. It is not for predicting the future.
Astrology gets a bad wrap from all of the "fortune cookie" type
"predictions" found in newspapers and such.
Astrology shows the personality of an individual, and how compatible
certain people are with others. It does not show if you are going to
find a lover next tuesday or get a promotion at work. How you get a
promotion at work, is knowing your boss's Sign and playing to that type of
personality to get what you want.
Paracelsus
"Art" <a...@decco.com> wrote in message news:410E8C6C...@decco.com...
| > It is well known that a horoscope can be cast for any hour of the day
| > and the lucky (favoable) houses and planets can be located.
|
| > If anyone has an idea of how the numbers 1 to 108 are distributed
| > around the 12 houses ,the job of locating the lucky hits will become
| > easy.
|
| When was each number born, and at what geographical location on the planet
| was it at the time of birth?
|
Numbers don't have birthdates or locations of birth, but lottery draws do.
| Numbers do not exist outside of the human or animal mind.
"Everything is Number" -- Pythagoras (.....or was that Ion
Saliu?............)
Art
> | was it at the time of birth?
> |
>
> Numbers don't have birthdates or locations of birth, but lottery draws do.
Yes, but Astrology is the science of personality and behavior.
> | Numbers do not exist outside of the human or animal mind.
>
> "Everything is Number" -- Pythagoras (.....or was that Ion
> Saliu?............)
Both are from what time period? As Hitler once wrote, the greatest mind from
many decades ago would be unable to cope as easy figuring out just how to get
through life today, whereas a young boy from today would have a simple time of
it.
According to people of those times, the earth was flat and created by gods.
HadRon
>> | When was each number born, and at what geographical location on the planet
>> | was it at the time of birth?
>> |
>>
>> Numbers don't have birthdates or locations of birth, but lottery draws do.
>
>Yes, but Astrology is the science of personality and behavior.
100% WRONG.
Astrology is NOT a science. Nor is it the science of personality and
behaviour. Although astrology has an ology at the end of it, and
involves some math, that doesn't make it scientific or a 'science'.
IMHO Astrology is a subset of numerology. Numerology being number
crunching for the scientifically challenged.
http://phyun5.ucr.edu/~wudka/Physics7/Notes_www/node5.html
Science is best defined as a careful, disciplined, logical search for
knowledge about any and all aspects of the universe, obtained by
examination of the best available evidence and always subject to
correction and improvement upon discovery of better evidence. What's
left is magic. And it doesn't work. -- James Randi
>> | Numbers do not exist outside of the human or animal mind.
>>
>> "Everything is Number" -- Pythagoras (.....or was that Ion
>> Saliu?............)
>
>Both are from what time period? As Hitler once wrote, the greatest mind from
>many decades ago would be unable to cope as easy figuring out just how to get
>through life today, whereas a young boy from today would have a simple time of
>it.
>
>According to people of those times, the earth was flat and created by gods.
Using Hitler (a deranged and stupid person with a loud mouth) as a
quotable resource to support an opinion in rgl really has me ROTFL.
Bwaahahhhahahahahahahahahaah
In any case the opinion is sooooo wrong. Any great mind from previous
times would be more cognitively capable than a modern young boy who
still believes in father christmas.
http://www.nwlink.com/~donclark/hrd/bloom.html
Reverse your statement to see the absurdity.
Regarding the people of 'those' times. More than 2000 years ago the
earth was known to be round. The circumference of the earth, the
distance to the sun and the distance to the moon were calculated by
Eratosthenes and others.
http://www-gap.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Mathematicians/Eratosthenes.html
and this from a guy who was only classed as a Beta by his peers.
Art,
In other posts you have stated that "I am free to tell the truth about
everything" and "How quickly one can instantly see who the educated
and uneducated are in a group".
To call astrology a science is an untruth.
To quote Hitler as a resource is uneducated.
HadRon
>> It is well known that a horoscope can be cast for any hour of the day
>> and the lucky (favoable) houses and planets can be located.
>
>> If anyone has an idea of how the numbers 1 to 108 are distributed
>> around the 12 houses ,the job of locating the lucky hits will become
>> easy.
>
>When was each number born, and at what geographical location on the planet
>was it at the time of birth?
>
>Numbers do not exist outside of the human or animal mind. All numbers
>would have the same birth date. Astrology and numbers don't work.
>
>Astrology is the science of personality and behavioral traits of an
>individual. It is not for predicting the future.
>
>Astrology gets a bad wrap from all of the "fortune cookie" type
>"predictions" found in newspapers and such.
Astrology gets a bad 'rep' from its roots in numerology.
Paracelsus
"HadRon" <Som...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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| On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 18:28:29 GMT, Art <a...@decco.com> wrote:
| IMHO Astrology is a subset of numerology. Numerology being number
| crunching for the scientifically challenged.
|
The nexus between astrology and numerology is disappointingly weak, although
both developed in Greece around 5th-4th century BC and had primal forms in
Egyptian and Babylonian civilisations.
Astrology is part of the Hermetic triad along with alchemy and ceremonial
magick, whereas numerology is more closely associated with the Qaballah,
gematria and Bible decoding.
The science of astrology is based on the position of the planets (in the
zodiac, in the diurnal sphere, and in relation to each other), not upon the
symbolism of numbers.
None of the great authorities on astrology (eg. Ptolemy, Firmicus,
Al-Biruni, Bonatus) had anything nuch to say about number symbolism,
although there were one or two 'cross-over' practitioners, such as Cornelius
Agrippa in the 16th century.
HadRon
<parac...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>"HadRon" <Som...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>| On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 18:28:29 GMT, Art <a...@decco.com> wrote:
>| IMHO Astrology is a subset of numerology. Numerology being number
>| crunching for the scientifically challenged.
>The nexus between astrology and numerology is disappointingly weak, although
>both developed in Greece around 5th-4th century BC and had primal forms in
>Egyptian and Babylonian civilisations.
I'm sure astrologers at that time must have been highly valued
although, perversely, they had a smaller number of planets and
calculations in their toolbox. More of an art than a science I
reckon.
>Astrology is part of the Hermetic triad along with alchemy and ceremonial
>magick, whereas numerology is more closely associated with the Qaballah,
>gematria and Bible decoding.
Astrology with Alchemy and Magic. Superstitious nonsense now replaced
with scientific disciplines such as chemistry and physics.
I hold the view that the Qaballah, gematria and Bible Decoding are
more obviously associated with numerology. The numerological aspects
of Astrology are no so obvious but they are there and I hope to
explain my reasoning in more detail.
>The science of astrology is based on the position of the planets (in the
>zodiac, in the diurnal sphere, and in relation to each other), not upon the
>symbolism of numbers.
Again, I have to repeat that astrology is not a science.
Astrology is a belief system. A belief system based on subjective
opinions that relate to numbers.
Thus,
Astrology appears to be closer to an art form than a scientific
discipline.
Similar to painting by numbers but you get to use the colours chosen
thousands of years ago by those with smaller toolboxes.
>None of the great authorities on astrology (eg. Ptolemy, Firmicus,
>Al-Biruni, Bonatus) had anything nuch to say about number symbolism,
>although there were one or two 'cross-over' practitioners, such as Cornelius
>Agrippa in the 16th century.
In other words, the further back in time we go the greater the
authority of astrology practitioners. Don't you see the absurdity in
that? That's just plain unscientific. It's absurd because;
a. They had less information about the planets.
b. More planets have been discovered since their time.
c. Advances have been made in measurement of longitude and latitude.
d. Add your own items.
e. My 2 pennies: The retrograde motion of mars is an optical
illusion yet I bet the great practitioners claimed some physical
properties?
Scientifically, as more accurate data goes into the astrology computer
then more accurate data should come out.
Now to some numerological aspects.
From what you say above it appears that some 'bright' individuals went
against the grain and tried to quantify the work they were doing. I
include you as one of the 'bright' individuals paracelsus. No sarcasm
intended because this isn't personal.
Unfortunately, the roots of astrology ARE based on number.
Birthdate: Hejirah? Jewish? Julian?
Birth Time: Babylonian?
logitude and latitude: Greenwich? Athens? Tokyo?
Planets: Who decides how many objects affect us?
Planetary positions: Degrees? Radians? Retrograde motion?
Zodiac: Subjectively Choice.
Diurnal Sphere: 24 hour sky.
In other words:
Input ----->>> Process ----->>> Output
Numbers ----->>> Locations ----->>> Personality
Numbers ----->>> Locations ----->>> Lotto Predictions
http://www.numerology-shop.com/astronumber.html
The number of times that science is mentioned on that site makes me
want to vomit. Too late - humphawwwkk. Darn - I don't remember
eating carrots or tomatoes.
Garbage in
----->>>
Process It
----->>>
Garbage Out
----->>>
Dress it up with appropriate respectability keywords such as 'science'
and 'law' and wierd words that make good soundbites such as 'malefic'.
----->>>
Sit there round eyed with innocence if someone gets malefic.
Question: When humans get to be born on Mars will Astrology become
scientific?
Question: When we find out that the Earth is NOT the centre of the
universe will Astrology become a science?
Question: When Astrologers realise that all objects in space are
moving at very high velocities in 3D space and will never return to
their original configuration, at any time, will Astrology become
scientific?
Question: When Astrologers define the moment of 'birth' will
Astrology become scientific?
Queston: What correction mechanisms are there in Astrology that
enables more accurate 'readings' to be made over time?
Question: When Paracelsus argues that Astrology is NOT a form of
numerology BUT holds onto the view that Astrology CAN find the
personality of lottery balls will Astrology become a science?
Paracelsus
I can see you would make a formidable opponent. Your post shows a knowledge
of the issues that one rarely finds outside the hardline sceptic community.
I don't propose to respond to the points you make, with one exception, which
is this: I still maintain the link between numerology and astrology is
regrettably weak. Yes, astrology USES numbers, but then so does
engineering; neither discipline ascribes an occult meaning to the numbers
per se. In fact, it was only in the last 30 years, with the work of the
British astrologer and neo-Platonist John Addey ('Harmonic Astrology',
1977), that astrology has begun to underpin its disparate rules with a
theory of harmonics and number symbolism.
As for the rest, they're good points, but I'm not here to champion the cause
of astrology against all-comers. I've been there, done that, got the pointy
hat. My experience of these discussions is that no-one is ever swayed;
believers will continue to be believers and cynics will continue to be
cynics. And besides, this is a lottery forum.
I will continue, as always, to expend my energies exploring the connections
between astrology and lottery results.
I hope to prove my assertions some day, in the form of winnings not words.
I estimate two jackpot wins should about do it (any fool can win the jackpot
once).
I've talked the talk; now it's time for me to walk the walk.
Paracelsus
| On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 13:02:56 GMT, "Paracelsus"
| <parac...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
|
|
| >None of the great authorities on astrology (eg. Ptolemy, Firmicus,
| >Al-Biruni, Bonatus) had anything nuch to say about number symbolism,
| >although there were one or two 'cross-over' practitioners, such as
Cornelius
| >Agrippa in the 16th century.
|
| In other words, the further back in time we go the greater the
| authority of astrology practitioners. Don't you see the absurdity in
| that? That's just plain unscientific.
I've just realised -- astrology is like the law in this respect.
It used to be a rule in English law that a legal textbook could only be
referred to in court if its author was dead.
Astrology is like that, only you have to be dead for 500 years.
HadRon
<parac...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Fair enough. BTW I was really keen to get your expert feedback on the
questions. You do write clearly and intelligently about a subject
that is so often wrapped in pseudo-scientific terms. Some good items
for me to follow-up at some stage. I suppose I am a sceptic but
probably because I cannot see how good (or bad) the foundations are of
your chosen discipline. Especially in relation to lottery
predictions.
The last question of mine, as you probably guessed, was a tongue in
cheek observation that you had taken a stance on astrology and
numerology which was diametrically opposed to your work with astrology
and lottery predictions (which could also be seen as a form of
numerology - if one has a broader view of numerology than the
occultists),
I'm sure we would have a great evening discussing these and many other
points over a few jugs of jungle juice. I'm sure I would learn a few
things. Any time you're in the Leeds area lets have a few beers on
me.
>I will continue, as always, to expend my energies exploring the connections
>between astrology and lottery results.
>
>I hope to prove my assertions some day, in the form of winnings not words.
>I estimate two jackpot wins should about do it (any fool can win the jackpot
>once).
>
>I've talked the talk; now it's time for me to walk the walk.
Watch your arse as the door swings shut. <couldn't resist>
No. Nooooo. Nooooooooo.
You're not going to do a Gerry on us are you?
HadRon
Hahahahahahahahahah Nice one!
I've learnt something again.
Gotta go - my sides are aching.
hahahahahahahahahahah
Gerry
.> Watch your arse as the door swings shut. <couldn't resist>
> No. Nooooo. Nooooooooo.
> You're not going to do a Gerry on us are you?
Whatsa Gerry to do? I ain't seen you offerin' ME no free beers. I'm
not a cheap date but can be bought :-)
I have a question to do with some sort of "ology"
Is there any such thing as a free beer?
Joe?
CDEX
"Paracelsus" wrote:
>
> I've just realised -- astrology is like the law in this respect.
>
> It used to be a rule in English law that a legal textbook
> could only be referred to in court if its author was dead.
>
> Astrology is like that, only you have to be dead for 500 years.
Excellent!
Slightly OT next, but I'll try to come back to the above topic.
I had a roommate in college who asserted that nobody could be dead for more
than 77 years.
The chap routinely did thought-transferrence experiments with his mentor who
was several thousand miles away. At an agreed time, the mentor 'broadcast'
thoughts ('broadcast' because he had multiple student receptors) and my
roommate 'received' them. Afterward he jotted down a summary about his
sensations during that period of time.
One time he wrote down a list of tastes that he had sensed. He told me that
he had literally 'tasted' lemon, salt, bitter, etc. Several days later he
got a letter from the mentor guy describing what everyone should have
sensed: a series of tastes, listed in sequence: lemon, salt, bitter, etc
(I don't remember the sequence).
Back on topic ... That's the same mentor who asserted to his pupils that
there was reincarnated awareness of a unique "self" on a 77-year cycle.
I never could figure out how that gels with the world's increasing
population, but otherwise that one thought-experiment was most surprising.
Joe
CDEX
"Gerry" wrote:
>
> I have a question to do with some sort of "ology"
>
> Is there any such thing as a free beer?
>
> Joe?
Sure any time, drop on in.
I thought you were into oenology when not chasing a 4/82 game.
J.
Gerry
"CDEX" <cd...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Aw c'mon Joe. You made that up didn't you ?
What kind of ice cubes you think we're sucking on out here ?
Gerry
Where'd I put that snappy comeback rolodex.....aha
flip,flip,flip
Joe, you left me Speechless in Seattle
CDEX
"Gerry" wrote:
> Aw c'mon Joe. You made that up didn't you ?
>
> What kind of ice cubes you think we're sucking on out here ?
No, it is true. That is exactly what happened and exactly how it happened.
On the other hand we played Cutthroat Canasta a $0.01 a point and he usually
lost. A penny a point is signficant when the game ends at 5000 points. If
he was reading my mind's instruction to him, it was "you are going to lose
this hand".
Joe
HadRon
wrote:
Dunno. Depends if it's been invaded by hairy arsed yanks.
I you're ever in Leeds the same free beer offer to you and all rgl
readers. Not all at the same time unless I win the lottery - in which
case I'll throw in a free airfare as well. That's gotta be one hell of
a punch-up. heh heh Wonder who's gonna be the first to pick a window?
Yep, there is such a thing as free beer. When you meet some huge dude
with a neck the same width as his head who wants to use your thigh
bone as a toothpick because you had your tongue down his sisters
throat. I don't know about you but IMHO his beer is gonna be free.
>Joe?
Huh. Reincarnation? Ha got it. Gerry is coming back as gerry.
Gerry
.> I you're ever in Leeds the same free beer offer to you and all rgl
> readers. Not all at the same time unless I win the lottery - in which
> case I'll throw in a free airfare as well. That's gotta be one hell of
> a punch-up. heh heh Wonder who's gonna be the first to pick a window?
Will you offer protection ? Someone might hire a hit man for this
Yankee Doodle Dandy ;-)
Nigel
>
> Huh. Reincarnation? Ha got it. Gerry is coming back as gerry.
>
>
Or....
Gerry is coming back as gERRY!!!!!!!!
Evil Nigel
HadRon
wrote:
Naaa - condoms aint gonna help ya man. gARY will do ya fu nuffink.
Time to offer some free beers?
heh heh
The only black belt i've got is in origami. Maybe I could fold gARY
into a bird or a fish.
Nick UK
"HadRon" said..
>
Any time you're in the Leeds area lets have a few beers..
>
Astrolottologists *never* visit hard-up Leeds, only Chelsea and Man U
supporters (to lend them some dosh! :-)
>
"HadRon" also said..
>
> No. Nooooo. Nooooooooo. You're not going to do a Gerry on us are you?
>
Nick.
Ps: Para, how you finding ISP.. NTL? Duh! What a crap outfit that is!
Gerry
Maybe when I wake up in the morning I will have stopped laffink
HadRon
Typical!
Adopt a troll-like posture using the freshwater shrimp fighting stance
and everyone keeps their heads down.
Offer a free beer and everyone comes out of the chuffin twilight
zone..
Hey Nick- Leeds is ok. If you like women dressed in burkhas, taxi
drivers who can't speak English and, all the free abuse and muggings
you can handle.
I know I know - talking up the place already.
Robert Perkis
Souls are constantly being created and recycled, can't say
for the 77-year thing. Animals are recycled immediately
unless you tell them to wait and tell them who you are so
they can say who they are to wait for. Hey somebody's got
to speak up for you. ;-) People get invited to stay or
choose what to try next, rather like a big train station
with travel agents around the perimeter hawking the
wonders of living in the worst of places.
Getting a first world country would be like winning the
lottery.
Who knows, I could be right. ;-) Robert Perkis
Gerry
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You can't make me stay Nick. I know my rights !
Bill or somebody like that....
Nick UK
"Gerry" (on his knees) pleaded..
>
> You can't make me stay Nick. I know my rights !
>
> Bill or somebody like that....
>
Chuckle!
Bill of Rights? Bill Clinton? Bill Gates? Bill Board? Bill Stickers?
No matter, cos like the rest of us in here, you got no rights whatsoever.
You are of course aware that RGL means 'Release Gerry Later' (much later) so
in the meantime, you're staying put!
We treat our prisoners humanely, which means you can apply to Robert to have
that ball and chain around your ankle, loosened just a teeny bitty.
Alternatively, find yourself a good Lawyer and financial Benefactor..
bail will be set at a Jackpot $50m.
Nick.
Paracelsus
|
| The last question of mine, as you probably guessed, was a tongue in
| cheek observation that you had taken a stance on astrology and
| numerology which was diametrically opposed to your work with astrology
| and lottery predictions (which could also be seen as a form of
| numerology - if one has a broader view of numerology than the
| occultists),
|
Yes indeed. This is why I regret the lack of closer ties between the two.
I was hoping to just find a book on astrology that said "Moon in Leo?
That'll be the number 27" but there's precious little out there that I've
come across. On the other hand, it does mean I can start with a blank
sheet. My problem is, I get the sceptics telling me "astrology is rubbish",
and the believers (like Art) telling me "astrology is great, but it doesn't
work on lotteries"!
| I'm sure we would have a great evening discussing these and many other
| points over a few jugs of jungle juice. I'm sure I would learn a few
| things. Any time you're in the Leeds area lets have a few beers on
| me.
|
Thanks very much.
Gerry
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>
> "HadRon" <Som...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> |
> | The last question of mine, as you probably guessed, was a tongue in
> | cheek observation that you had taken a stance on astrology and
> | numerology which was diametrically opposed to your work with astrology
> | and lottery predictions (which could also be seen as a form of
> | numerology - if one has a broader view of numerology than the
> | occultists),
> |
>
> Yes indeed. This is why I regret the lack of closer ties between the two.
> I was hoping to just find a book on astrology that said "Moon in Leo?
> That'll be the number 27" but there's precious little out there that I've
> come across. On the other hand, it does mean I can start with a blank
> sheet. My problem is, I get the sceptics telling me "astrology is
rubbish",
> and the believers (like Art) telling me "astrology is great, but it
doesn't
> work on lotteries"!
The only thing Art believes is he put those planets up there and he's
in charge of everything underneath ;-)
I think he already said that in one of his free speech speeches. I keep
wondering if I've seen him on TV lying on the street blocking traffic.