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Bryan Simmons

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Jan 8, 2021, 5:50:24 PM1/8/21
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All the kneading I've done making pizza crust and bread, and my wife just puts the stuff in the upright mixer, and it turns out just as good or better.. I still roll it out with the French rolling pin, so it's still hands on. Yeah, some folks can throw pizza crusts up into the air, but I have to use a rolling pin. It's always a challenge to get the pizza crusts the right size for the pan, and as round as possible.

--Bryan

dsi1

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Jan 8, 2021, 6:16:02 PM1/8/21
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On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 12:50:24 PM UTC-10, bryang...@gmail.com wrote:
> All the kneading I've done making pizza crust and bread, and my wife just puts the stuff in the upright mixer, and it turns out just as good or better.. I still roll it out with the French rolling pin, so it's still hands on. Yeah, some folks can throw pizza crusts up into the air, but I have to use a rolling pin. It's always a challenge to get the pizza crusts the right size for the pan, and as round as possible.
>
> --Bryan

Kneading pizza crust in a plastic bag can be therapeutic for hands. I've been doing that but I'm tired of working my hands these days. I've done pizza dough with a stand mixer and dough hook but the mix hates pizza dough. I can just dump the ingredients in the bread machine and let it do all the work. These days, I want to do the least amount of work possible. I must be depressed.

John Kuthe

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Jan 8, 2021, 6:36:29 PM1/8/21
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On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 5:50:24 PM UTC-5, bryang...@gmail.com wrote:
> All the kneading I've done making pizza crust and bread, and my wife just puts the stuff in the upright mixer, and it turns out just as good or better.. I still roll it out with the French rolling pin, so it's still hands on. Yeah, some folks can throw pizza crusts up into the air, but I have to use a rolling pin. It's always a challenge to get the pizza crusts the right size for the pan, and as round as possible.
>
> --Bryan

I use a dough hook for years at Danny Donuts! Worked great!

John Kuthe...

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Jan 8, 2021, 6:39:08 PM1/8/21
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On 1/8/2021 6:36 PM, John Kuthe wrote:

> I use a dough hook for years at Danny Donuts! Worked great!
>
> John Kuthe...
>
then you got fed up with the hole business

Hank Rogers

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Jan 8, 2021, 6:46:41 PM1/8/21
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I'll get yoose out of yoose depression!

Think about all the evil honkeys destroying yoose rock paradise!

Yoose not angry?

If yoose had a single ball left, yoose would attack! Mexicans got
more gumption than yoose greedy asian hearing aid scammers.



Snag

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Jan 8, 2021, 7:28:53 PM1/8/21
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On 1/8/2021 4:50 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> All the kneading I've done making pizza crust and bread, and my wife just puts the stuff in the upright mixer, and it turns out just as good or better.. I still roll it out with the French rolling pin, so it's still hands on. Yeah, some folks can throw pizza crusts up into the air, but I have to use a rolling pin. It's always a challenge to get the pizza crusts the right size for the pan, and as round as possible.
>
> --Bryan
>

Funny you should mention pizza dough right now , I've got 2 calzones
in the oven . I use my stand mixer for all bread type dough . I can't
toss dough either , and since I don't have a rolling pin I use the spray
can the olive oil cooking spray comes in . I useta use a beer bottle but
my wife threw it away ...
--
Snag
Illegitimi non
carborundum

Master Bruce

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Jan 8, 2021, 7:30:54 PM1/8/21
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Wild idea: buy another beer!

Hank Rogers

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Jan 8, 2021, 7:56:39 PM1/8/21
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It helped you to whack off?


Hank Rogers

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Jan 8, 2021, 7:59:18 PM1/8/21
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A good sniff there druce. Work your way up to the top of his
sphincter and get the sweetest part.




John Kuthe

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Jan 8, 2021, 8:01:37 PM1/8/21
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Then I became a Computer Engineer and worked for IBM for 7 years until IBM lost the Boeing Contract!

John Kuthe...

Hank Rogers

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Jan 8, 2021, 8:41:46 PM1/8/21
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And then you became a cannabis nurse, and looked for a job for 7 years!



Taxed and Spent

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Jan 9, 2021, 6:01:48 AM1/9/21
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What did you do to cause them to loose the contract?

Master Bruce

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Jan 9, 2021, 6:10:43 AM1/9/21
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Maybe they found his lifestyle too loose.

Gary

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Jan 9, 2021, 7:23:23 AM1/9/21
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One suggestion: Roll it out to almost pan size then put it on the pan
and use your fingers to press it out to fit, starting from the center.

When I make pizza dough here... once it's ready, I'll smash it down with
the palm of my hand to about 6" round and thick. At that point I set it
in the center of my 16" solid pizza pan and work it out to the edge with
my fingers, rotating pan as I go.

Doesn't take long, maybe 5 minutes or a bit more. If at any point you
press it too thin and get a tear, easy to patch with a bit of dough from
the edge.





Ophelia

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Jan 9, 2021, 9:49:03 AM1/9/21
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"dsi1" wrote in message
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Me too and I get D. to roll out the dough to fit the pizza pan:)) He
does a good job:)))

Mike Duffy

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Jan 9, 2021, 9:51:17 AM1/9/21
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On Sat, 09 Jan 2021 03:01:43 -0800, Taxed and Spent wrote:

> What did you do to cause them to loose the contract?

Boeing, Boeing, Bong!.

dsi1

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Jan 9, 2021, 1:00:46 PM1/9/21
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Division of labor is a good thing. Unfortunately, I got nobody that wants to roll out pizza dough around here.

Sqwertz

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Jan 9, 2021, 1:19:49 PM1/9/21
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On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 14:50:20 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons wrote:

> All the kneading I've done making pizza crust and bread, and my wife just puts the stuff in the upright mixer, and it turns out just as good or better.. I still roll it out with the French rolling pin, so it's still hands on. Yeah, some folks can throw pizza crusts up into the air, but I have to use a rolling pin. It's always a challenge to get the pizza crusts the right size for the pan, and as round as possible.
>
> --Bryan

You don't need to toss it in the air, just get it relaxed and shape
it on the counter. Only if I can't get my relaxed after a couple
tries do I use a rolling pin and smash that fucker into submission.

-sw

Sheldon Martin

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Jan 9, 2021, 2:19:47 PM1/9/21
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On Sat, 9 Jan 2021 Mike Duffy wrote:
>On Sat, 09 Jan 2021 Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
>> What did you do to cause them to loose the contract?
>
>Boeing, Boeing, Bong!.

Which contract? I was working for Lockheed at the time (1960), both
Boeing and Lockheed lost the supersonic transport to the French... not
because their version was better, it was cheaper. At the end no one
got the contract.

Taxed and Spent

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Jan 9, 2021, 2:41:06 PM1/9/21
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Lockheed and Boeing invested money and had contracts with subcontractors
for development work in an effort to get "the" contract.

So, yes, IBM lost the Boeing contract is perfectly plausible.
Especially with Kuthe involved.

Hank Rogers

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Jan 9, 2021, 4:23:11 PM1/9/21
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Fercockta cheap frenchie stuff! They are almost as bad as the cheap
ass chinese.

But their wimmens DO have enormous bosoms, with long, leathery,
hairy nipples. Right, Popeye?





John Kuthe

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Jan 9, 2021, 5:50:53 PM1/9/21
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Nothing. It was part of IBM letting 15,001 go due to corporate shrinkage and I was the ONE! ;-) That and Boeing did it's own in house IT work.

John Kuthe...

Hank Rogers

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Jan 9, 2021, 6:52:51 PM1/9/21
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Many companies regularly purge the detritus.

They clean up. Get rid or dead or rotting wood.

A corporate toilet flush. You went out in a flush.


Hank Rogers

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Jan 9, 2021, 7:03:36 PM1/9/21
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They no longer needed a cannabis engineer? A damn shame.

You should have consulted the lawyers for the rainbow tribe.



Sheldon Martin

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Jan 9, 2021, 8:33:13 PM1/9/21
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Kootche wasn't born yet... and to date he never worked. Kootchie
thinks making fercoctah donut holes is a job. Won't be much longer
that Kootchie will be crying for RFC to feed him... he can fight with
my critters over potato and carrot peels, he'll lose. LOL
Today I baked a fantastic carrot cake, with lots of extra spices;
cinnamon, nutmeg, and ginger... even tossed in two handfuls of
craisins, house smells like heaven... perfect Frosty the Snowman
Weather cake, 21ºF. My wife ate two hunks, I ate two hunks... half
that cake is gone... I will definitely make it again. It was a Dunkin
Heinz box cake but really needed my doctoring, that giant grated horse
sized carrot was the killer. I always buy the five pound bags of
carrots for the deer.

Hank Rogers

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Jan 9, 2021, 9:32:04 PM1/9/21
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Popeye. I smell a strong shit odor. Either brush yoose teeth or put
a cork in that ole mexican woman, or pull Gruce's head out of yoose
ass hole. And check yoose drawers for shit!




Ophelia

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Jan 10, 2021, 8:02:44 AM1/10/21
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"dsi1" wrote in message
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Awww that is a shame:( I thought your daughter loved cooking?


Sheldon Martin

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Jan 10, 2021, 1:04:57 PM1/10/21
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On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 13:02:35 -0000, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
Dough hooks are good for treating hemrrhoids.

dsi1

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Jan 10, 2021, 1:25:33 PM1/10/21
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Mostly she likes to bake sweet stuff. She has the chops to be a pastry chef but she's training to be a veterinary assistant. She has to work 150 hours at an animal clinic for a class. I think it's kind of lame that they won't be paying her.

Bryan Simmons

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Jan 10, 2021, 3:53:59 PM1/10/21
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Baked goods smell a lot better than animals, with some exceptions, like
nasty cabbage rolls, or animals like cows that have been killed, and pieces
of meat cut out of them and grilled over a hot fire.

--Bryan

Hank Rogers

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Jan 10, 2021, 3:56:58 PM1/10/21
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I bet yoose has treated lots of them with yoose dough hook Popeye.




Ophelia

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Jan 10, 2021, 4:45:51 PM1/10/21
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"dsi1" wrote in message
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Really?? Not pay her at all???? Hmm not sure that could be right:(


Daniel

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Jan 14, 2021, 8:30:23 AM1/14/21
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dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> writes:

> On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 12:50:24 PM UTC-10, bryang...@gmail.com wrote:
>> All the kneading I've done making pizza crust and bread, and my wife
>> just puts the stuff in the upright mixer, and it turns out just as
>> good or better.. I still roll it out with the French rolling pin, so
>> it's still hands on. Yeah, some folks can throw pizza crusts up into
>> the air, but I have to use a rolling pin. It's always a challenge to
>> get the pizza crusts the right size for the pan, and as round as
>> possible.
>>
>> --Bryan
>
> Kneading pizza crust in a plastic bag can be therapeutic for
> hands. I've been doing that but I'm tired of working my hands these
> days. I've done pizza dough with a stand mixer and dough hook but the
> mix hates pizza dough. I can just dump the ingredients in the bread
> machine and let it do all the work. These days, I want to do the least
> amount of work possible. I must be depressed.

I've been doing the same thing for years. A two-pound bread machine I
bought in the late nineties still works today because I've never used it
to bake bread but only to make dough. The paddle has been mangled due to
dropping in the garbage disposal. Finding that replacement is really
easy and got a few in an order. Never again a problem.

I've had to do maintenance on the pan since the metal parts wear over
the years. They're standard size parts easy to get at lowes.

Anyway, the two pounds of dough is enough to make two pizzas. I'll make
one pizza with the dough and make fried bread with the rest for the next
day. They make excellent pocket bread for sandwiches or sweet dessert
with cinna and sugar.

That bread machine turned out the best early kitchen investment I made
in my twenties.

--
Daniel

Visit me at: gopher://gcpp.world

dsi1

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Jan 14, 2021, 12:55:42 PM1/14/21
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They should pay her something so she could at least pay for some lunch. I suggest 5 bucks an hour.

dsi1

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Jan 14, 2021, 1:01:41 PM1/14/21
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I've had several bread machines. The only part I've had to replace was the bearing/seal for the paddle. There doesn't seem to be much else that wears out. I've used the bread machine to make mochi by using it to mash up sweet rice. It works fine. The main problem I have is finding filling for the mochi.
https://www.fujiyahawaii.com/

Sheldon Martin

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Jan 14, 2021, 1:45:12 PM1/14/21
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Two slices and 15 minutes for lunch is adequate compenation.

Inexperienced people can't stretch one pizza crust in about 3-4
minutes, professional pizza makers need about 2 minutes to
stretch/spin one pizza crust and about another minute to top it, and
10-12 minutes to bake and slice it.

dsi1

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Jan 14, 2021, 1:51:45 PM1/14/21
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My guess is that she's not going to be able to make pizza at an animal clinic. Yoose could certainly try, uncle.

Graham

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Jan 14, 2021, 4:15:07 PM1/14/21
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On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 10:51:40 -0800 (PST), dsi1 wrote:


> My guess is that she's not going to be able to make pizza at an animal clinic. Yoose could certainly try, uncle.

Square box, round pizza, triangular sections, semi-circular bites. I guess
those geometry classes came in useful:-)

dsi1

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Jan 14, 2021, 4:35:24 PM1/14/21
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My understanding is that she was working with dead rabbits so I suppose they could make rabbit pizza or Chinese mystery meat dishes like pressed duck.

Hank Rogers

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Jan 14, 2021, 5:10:21 PM1/14/21
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Uncle Popeye eats a lot of pressed dicks.

With 1950 vintage crystal palace aperitif.





songbird

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Jan 14, 2021, 6:55:51 PM1/14/21
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Daniel wrote:
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> That bread machine turned out the best early kitchen investment I made
> in my twenties.

i had one given to me by someone who didn't use it, i used it
quite a large number of times until one time i turned it on and
a puff of smoke came out of it and that was it.

i took it apart and pulled the motor and belt out of it and i
also kept the glass dome as a bowl. the rest went to the recycler.

i still have the motor and belt just in case i ever have to
turn into a squirrel to generate electricity for an LED light
bulb. it is a very nice big motor.


songbird

Ophelia

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Jan 15, 2021, 5:37:34 AM1/15/21
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"dsi1" wrote in message
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I don't know but they are most probably getting plenty of word free!!

Ophelia

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Jan 15, 2021, 5:47:44 AM1/15/21
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"songbird" wrote in message news:q5u6dh-...@anthive.com...
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Hmm don't think I would be doing that:)) I made bread kneading by hand
for many years until the flippin' arfur set into my hands. I have used a
bread machine since and I do make the dough for my pizzas since then:)


songbird

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Jan 15, 2021, 9:08:23 AM1/15/21
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Ophelia wrote:
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> Hmm don't think I would be doing that:)) I made bread kneading by hand
> for many years until the flippin' arfur set into my hands. I have used a
> bread machine since and I do make the dough for my pizzas since then:)

we have a hook for the mixer but Mom has never used it and
i've not tried it either. some day i will. :) sorry about
the arfur.


songbird

Ophelia

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Jan 15, 2021, 9:15:02 AM1/15/21
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"Ophelia" wrote in message news:i6d9j9...@mid.individual.net...
ERRRR WORK!!!

Ophelia

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Jan 15, 2021, 9:19:02 AM1/15/21
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"songbird" wrote in message news:rie8dh-...@anthive.com...
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Thanks m'dear but it is life:))))

I got the mixer with the hook many years ago but I never used it for bread
if I remember right.

I still have my Kenwood Chef but I don't use it nearly so often now. In
fact I was just trying to remember what I did use it for!!



S Viemeister

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Jan 15, 2021, 10:04:08 AM1/15/21
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On 15/01/2021 14:18, Ophelia wrote:

>  I got the mixer with the hook many years ago but I never used it for
> bread if I remember right.
>
>  I still have my  Kenwood Chef but I don't use it nearly so often now.
> In fact I was just trying to remember what I did use it for!!
>
My Kenwood is most frequently used for bread - the other bits and pieces
get some use, too, but the dough hook stays with the machine, which has
a permanent place on the worktop. The bits and pieces sit in the kitchen
gadget cupboard.

cshenk

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Jan 15, 2021, 6:10:59 PM1/15/21
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Same here but I use them a lot so have burned some out, mostly making
super heavy doughs like bonemeal dog biscuits.

cshenk

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Jan 15, 2021, 6:15:00 PM1/15/21
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https://www.fujiyahawaii.com/product/habutae-read-bean/

Aduki/Adzuki/Azuki beans (spelled various ways depending where you
are). This one is very easy. Boil beans to soft and add 2 part
drained beans to 1 part sugar then mash. Can use less sugar if
desired. Fill Mochi or in my case, riceball at center.

Dave Smith

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Jan 15, 2021, 6:33:16 PM1/15/21
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On 2021-01-08 5:50 p.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:
> All the kneading I've done making pizza crust and bread, and my wife
> just puts the stuff in the upright mixer, and it turns out just as
> good or better.. I still roll it out with the French rolling pin, so
> it's still hands on. Yeah, some folks can throw pizza crusts up into
> the air, but I have to use a rolling pin. It's always a challenge to
> get the pizza crusts the right size for the pan, and as round as
> possible.
>
>
\

All the subsequent talk about dough hooks got me thinking about getting
a stand mixer with a dough hook. I just about burned out my hand mixer
making gingerbread cookies last month. My light fruit cake is alos very
challenging to the hand mixer. I make pizza every week or two and I have
the option of using a dough hook or kneading the dough.

I broke down last week and ordered one online. I ordered a KitchenAid
Artisan series unit. I just got an email advising that it has shipped.
I should have it in a few days,


cshenk

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Jan 15, 2021, 6:41:45 PM1/15/21
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Same thing when I was in college working my teaching semester for a
batchelors in education. I didn't get paid but taught 6 classes a day.
Because of the dual minor it was 1 Basic English, 1 AP english, 2
Biology, 1 general science, and 1 Earth science. 5 lesson plans a day
to prepare.

I got a break though as the English teacher saw my schedule and said he
had it all planned out so I could just use his teaching points. Earth
and general science were hardest as I had no guidance but a text book
split to where I was to end the semester at.

No pay. The only break was lunch was subsidized to 'student rate'
since I was a college student.... I remember thinking how 'rich' I
would have been if paid minimum wage! (grin).

The idea I was told is most 'student teachers' require so much
watching, it's hard to get a teacher to allow one because it costs them
time but I was told by all of mine that I did really well and actually
left them with lots of free time after the first week or so of making
sure I had the hang of it.

Everyone has strong and weak points. Your daughter has strong
compassion. It shines every time you mention her and it's not just
'proud poppa' talking. She will shine, I am sure, as a vet.

Leo

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Jan 16, 2021, 12:09:55 AM1/16/21
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On 2021 Jan 14, , songbird wrote
(in article <q5u6dh-...@anthive.com>):

> Daniel wrote:
> ...
> > That bread machine turned out the best early kitchen investment I made
> > in my twenties.
>
> i had one given to me by someone who didn't use it, i used it
> quite a large number of times until one time i turned it on and
> a puff of smoke came out of it and that was it.

Here´s and old one. Computers (and apparently bread machines) run on smoke.
If the smoke escapes, the machines die.
Thank you! Thank you! I´ll be here all week!

leo


Ophelia

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Jan 16, 2021, 6:58:51 AM1/16/21
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"S Viemeister" wrote in message news:i6dp72...@mid.individual.net...

On 15/01/2021 14:18, Ophelia wrote:

> Â I got the mixer with the hook many years ago but I never used it for
> bread if I remember right.
>
>  I still have my Kenwood Chef but I don't use it nearly so often now.
> In fact I was just trying to remember what I did use it for!!
>
My Kenwood is most frequently used for bread - the other bits and pieces
get some use, too, but the dough hook stays with the machine, which has
a permanent place on the worktop. The bits and pieces sit in the kitchen
gadget cupboard.

====

Do share the 'bits and pieces' please:))))

Leo

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Jan 16, 2021, 7:27:16 AM1/16/21
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On 2021 Jan 16, , Ophelia wrote
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> Do share the 'bits and pieces' please:))))

My late eighties KitchenAid has meat grinder and cheese grater attachments
that I knew I needed, bought extra and never used. It probably does other
stuff too.


Ophelia

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Jan 16, 2021, 7:29:27 AM1/16/21
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"Leo" wrote in message
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Thank you! It sounds good. I have all those things but they are mostly
separate:)

S Viemeister

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Jan 16, 2021, 2:14:25 PM1/16/21
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Let's see - the whisk and flat beater, of course, plus a
liquidiser/blender; continuous feed slicer-shredder; grain mill; meat
mincer/grinder.
I think that's it.

Graham

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Jan 16, 2021, 2:17:18 PM1/16/21
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I have a cream maker that converts U/S butter back into cream:-)

S Viemeister

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Jan 16, 2021, 3:04:42 PM1/16/21
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I've seen those, but I don't think they still make them.

Graham

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Jan 16, 2021, 3:25:08 PM1/16/21
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We were given it and used it a couple of times. I would never buy one. I've
wondered about using it to make a creamy salad dressing from oil and
vinegar but haven't bothered.
I also have a mincer, can opener and coffee grinder, all gifts from
in-laws.

S Viemeister

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Jan 16, 2021, 4:03:43 PM1/16/21
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I find the mincer useful; I don't use enough cans to make it worth
dragging out an attachment every time I need to open one; I use a manual
coffee grinder, and have a little electric one for spices.

songbird

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Jan 16, 2021, 4:22:50 PM1/16/21
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Ophelia wrote:
...
> Thank you! It sounds good. I have all those things but they are mostly
> separate:)

i think that is what he means by bits and pieces. :)

the meat grinder i'd consider useful as our ancient hand
crank one is really getting decrepit - but it does still
work it just doesn't look very pretty.


songbird

Graham

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Jan 16, 2021, 4:32:45 PM1/16/21
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I have used the grinder, not just for meat but also for nuts where the
recipe didn't mind the somewhat oily result. The coffee grinder *always*
made a helluva mess on the counter-top so it was only used a few times. As
for the can-opener, it was never used and these days I have one of those
side-cutting ones when I do open a can.

Ophelia

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Jan 16, 2021, 4:48:55 PM1/16/21
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"S Viemeister" wrote in message news:i6gs8b...@mid.individual.net...

On 16/01/2021 11:58, Ophelia wrote:
> "S Viemeister"Â wrote in message news:i6dp72...@mid.individual.net...
> On 15/01/2021 14:18, Ophelia wrote:
>>  Â I got the mixer with the hook many years ago but I never used it for
>> bread if I remember right.
>>
>>  Â I still have my Kenwood Chef but I don't use it nearly so often
>> now. In fact I was just trying to remember what I did use it for!!
>>
> My Kenwood is most frequently used for bread - the other bits and pieces
> get some use, too, but the dough hook stays with the machine, which has
> a permanent place on the worktop. The bits and pieces sit in the kitchen
> gadget cupboard.
>
> ====
>
> Â Do share the 'bits and pieces' please:))))

Let's see - the whisk and flat beater, of course, plus a
liquidiser/blender; continuous feed slicer-shredder; grain mill; meat
mincer/grinder.
I think that's it.

===

Sounds good to me:))))


Boron Elgar

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Jan 16, 2021, 4:50:22 PM1/16/21
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On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 19:14:18 +0000, S Viemeister
I have that, too! I also have a juicer, I believe.

Ophelia

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Jan 16, 2021, 4:53:36 PM1/16/21
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"songbird" wrote in message news:dj1cdh-...@anthive.com...
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Oh yes, I use that a lot! I never buy ready minced meats! I much
prefer to buy a piece and mince it myself !!!!!

Dave Smith

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Jan 16, 2021, 5:03:07 PM1/16/21
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One attachment I am considering for my new stand mixer is a pasta maker.

Graham

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Jan 16, 2021, 5:31:39 PM1/16/21
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I have a conventional, hand-craked one and wish I had a 3rd hand to help
catch the rolled out dough. An attachment to the KA might solve this
problem and would be another gadget over which to ponder buying.

Hank Rogers

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Jan 16, 2021, 6:05:55 PM1/16/21
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Indeed, the Popeye approved method. All other methods are TIAD.




Dave Smith

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Jan 16, 2021, 6:08:14 PM1/16/21
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I have a hand crank model too and I agree that at least one extra hand
is needed. I also have a problem securing it to a counter top or table.
The clamp is too far back so it fits only half way, leaving grip disk
far enough back that it rolls around the corner as I tighten it. A
friend has the pasta attachment and uses it frequently.

Hank Rogers

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Jan 16, 2021, 6:49:36 PM1/16/21
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You should send it back and demand a refund! Canadian laws forbid
selling things like that. If you run out of legal avenues, you
could also collect garbage and spread it on the manufacturer's
facility. That'll show them.


Hank Rogers

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Jan 16, 2021, 7:03:18 PM1/16/21
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Dave Smith wrote:
> I have a hand crank model too and I agree that at least one extra
> hand is needed. I also have a problem

Big Niece could handle this problem. Ask her to help you.

You'll still be big dave.


S Viemeister

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Jan 17, 2021, 4:20:35 AM1/17/21
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I have one for the KitchenAid I have in NJ. Makes things much easier
than with my old hand-cranked one.

S Viemeister

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Jan 17, 2021, 4:21:45 AM1/17/21
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Some hand-cranked ones have an attachment point for a motor. Mine doesn't.

Ophelia

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Jan 17, 2021, 5:50:48 AM1/17/21
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"S Viemeister" wrote in message news:i6idqu...@mid.individual.net...

On 16/01/2021 22:03, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-01-16 4:14 p.m., songbird wrote:
>> Ophelia wrote:
>> ...
>>>   Thank you! It sounds good. I have all those things but they are
>>> mostly
>>> separate:)
>>
>>   i think that is what he means by bits and pieces. :)
>>
>> Â Â the meat grinder i'd consider useful as our ancient hand
>> crank one is really getting decrepit - but it does still
>> work it just doesn't look very pretty.
>>
>
> One attachment I am considering for my new stand mixer is a pasta maker.

I have one for the KitchenAid I have in NJ. Makes things much easier
than with my old hand-cranked one.

===

LOL I still have an old hand cranked one:)) I haven't used it in many
years. I wonder why I still keep it:))


Bryan Simmons

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Jan 17, 2021, 7:38:56 AM1/17/21
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So if you catch a mouse, you can make mincemeat out of it.

--Bryan

Gary

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Jan 17, 2021, 8:21:39 AM1/17/21
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S Viemeister wrote:

> Graham wrote:
>> I have a cream maker that converts U/S butter back into cream:-)
>>
> I've seen those, but I don't think they still make them.

Probably because it didn't work so good.
What an odd appliance.

I would just use the butter and buy fresh cream as needed.




Gary

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Jan 17, 2021, 8:24:11 AM1/17/21
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Graham wrote:
> I have a conventional, hand-craked one and wish I had a 3rd hand to help
> catch the rolled out dough.

I agree. One person to feed in the dough and crank it. The other person
to catch it.



S Viemeister

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Jan 17, 2021, 8:42:38 AM1/17/21
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On 17/01/2021 10:50, Ophelia wrote:
>
>  LOL I still have an old hand cranked one:))  I haven't used it in many
> years.  I wonder why I still keep it:))
>
>
Because somewhere in your subconscious, you remember just how tasty
home-made pasta is.

Gary

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Jan 17, 2021, 11:00:44 AM1/17/21
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Hey, as long as it still works and you keep it clean, no worries how it
looks.

I'll probably never buy one as I don't eat much meat and even less often
ground meat.

The occasional ground from the grocery store is fine with me.

Speaking of that.... 80% lean ground chuck this week at my grocery store
for %2.99/lb.
(for Carol, that's at Harris Teeter)

I might buy some tomorrow or Tuesday and make a 3 lb meatloaf. YUM



Graham

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Jan 17, 2021, 11:03:14 AM1/17/21
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It was probably invented when cream wasn't readily availble in shops.
Remember that the supermarkets that we are so used to weren't abundant
until the 60s, at least in the UK.

Gary

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Jan 17, 2021, 11:19:16 AM1/17/21
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So much better when fresh made. I don't have a machine now but I do make
egg noodles from scratch occasionally. I roll them out and use a pizza
wheel to cut them.


Dave Smith

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Jan 17, 2021, 11:32:09 AM1/17/21
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I lived in a small town and the grocery store in town was pretty small,
The first good sized grocery store I ever saw was built two towns away
from us, and it was small compared to most grocery stores these days.

Dave Smith

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Jan 17, 2021, 11:37:00 AM1/17/21
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You only have to make pasta a couple times to realize what a bargain the
store bought stuff it.


Cindy Hamilton

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Jan 17, 2021, 12:16:06 PM1/17/21
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My homemade pasta is better than store-bought fresh pasta.

Fresh and dried pastas are not interchangeable.

Cindy Hamilton

Graham

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Jan 17, 2021, 12:17:16 PM1/17/21
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When I was a child, there were 3 grocers in my village. Now there is one,
smallish supermarket.
In those days, if you wanted cream, you had to know a dairy farmer who sold
it "on the side". The only generally available cream was the "top of the
milk" as only non-homogenised milk was delivered by the milk man.

songbird

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Jan 17, 2021, 12:35:34 PM1/17/21
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Dave Smith wrote:
...
> I lived in a small town and the grocery store in town was pretty small,
> The first good sized grocery store I ever saw was built two towns away
> from us, and it was small compared to most grocery stores these days.

things have gone way beyond that here, we've actually cycled
around where at first there were the small stores, then there
was a huge mall built (one of the first ever built i think as
it was quite a huge attraction) and i spent a lot of time there
as a kid because they had an arcade and i liked to go play
pinball at least once a week. now the whole mall is almost
empty and the entire area around it is all built up and over-
run with places we hardly ever go to. if it weren't for our
favorite Chinese place being out that ways we'd never go that
ways, but it fits in with the running of errands to the big
box store.


songbird

songbird

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Jan 17, 2021, 12:35:34 PM1/17/21
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Gary wrote:
...meat grinder...
> I'll probably never buy one as I don't eat much meat and even less often
> ground meat.

we mostly use it for ground pickle and bologna and once
in a while i will grind up garlic using it as that is much
faster than cutting it by hand. when i have a few lbs of
garlic left over and i want to preserve it because it is
starting to sprout again, i take it and grind it up and
then drench it with lemon juice and freeze it in portions
that work for future cooking.


> The occasional ground from the grocery store is fine with me.
>
> Speaking of that.... 80% lean ground chuck this week at my grocery store
> for %2.99/lb.
> (for Carol, that's at Harris Teeter)
>
> I might buy some tomorrow or Tuesday and make a 3 lb meatloaf. YUM

we had burgers last week from ground beef which was very
fatty, Mom said she wasn't sure if she should get that or
ground chuck, i prefer ground chuck as it has just the right
amount of fat and then i don't have to dispose of all the
fat from the pan. why pay for something you're not going
to eat? there was probably six ounces of fat in the pan
after i cooked up the four burgers. i joked that if i was
starving we could have made gravy out of it and the other
stuff stuck on the pan. as it is, nope, i'm certainly not
starving.

when doing a roast i also like a chuck roast.

we don't really eat beef that often, but when i have it
i'm finding that i prefer ground chuck even more than the
steaks, but i still think i prefer a roast more than any
other way because i also like all the other roasted things
that go with it.


songbird

songbird

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Jan 17, 2021, 12:35:36 PM1/17/21
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we used to make noodles when i was a kid. haven't done
that much at all in recent years.


songbird

songbird

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Jan 17, 2021, 12:35:39 PM1/17/21
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Dave Smith wrote:
...
> You only have to make pasta a couple times to realize what a bargain the
> store bought stuff it.

we never dried it out all the way, just boiled it up when
we finished rolling it out and cutting it up.

i wonder if i can talk Mom into making some fresh again to
see what it is like it has been that long. i only remember
using them in things like chicken soup and beef stroganoff.
for spaghetti and meatballs we always had the small thin
noodles of the dried pastas.


songbird

Cindy Hamilton

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Jan 17, 2021, 12:38:50 PM1/17/21
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I love hearing you codgers talk about the olden times. Was there
canned food then?

Cindy Hamilton

GM

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Jan 17, 2021, 12:46:32 PM1/17/21
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I grew up in a rural Illinois farm area, and each small town still had their small grocery stores. By the early 60's some of the larger towns around began opening supermarkets. Now all those smaller shops have disappeared, people have to travel some ways to visit a supermarket; these towns now have gas/convenience stores, with some basic food items available...

On my 1975 London visit, we stayed in Bloomsbury, in the British Museum area (at the Thanet Hotel on Bedford Place, now a nice place, then a dumpy B&B catering to cheap student groups. https://thanethotel.co.uk/ ) A new Safeway had just opened nearby and it was considered quite a big deal. It was a purpose - built facility, and laid out in the "US style"...

On her 1957 State Visit to the US, Queen Elizabeth was keen to see an American supermarket...and she did so. She spent time wandering the aisles and chatting with the - astounded! - customers, the date is 19 October 1957:

https://www.routeonefun.com/the-queen-at-west-hyattsvilles-giant-terps-v-tar-heels-game-in-college-park/

"During Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Phillip’s first visit to the United States as a monarch, they managed to catch a Terp’s game against North Carolina and watch them defeat the Tar Heels, 21-7. After the football game, the Queen and her Prince also paid a visit to the former Giant Food Store in West Hyattsville, as “The supermarket, in its awesome majesty, is a growing symbol of American abundance,” wrote one AP reporter covering the Queen’s visit to the store.

According to this Washington Post article:

The royal limousine drew up before the Giant Food Store and, to the complete amazement of hundreds of weekend shoppers, the Queen and her Prince consort got out and walked into the store. Housewives and other shoppers inside the store looked up in astonishment as they found the Queen and Prince Philip peering into their shopping carts. … While the Queen strolled about, the Prince separated from the party and soon found himself munching sample crackers and cheese bits someone offered him. “Good for mice,” he smiled at the gaping crowd around him. The young Queen, clad in a mink coat, appeared charmed by the shopping carts with small seats for youngster. “How nice that you can bring your children along,” Her Majesty told one woman who was wheeling a baby..."


http://cookedbooks.blogspot.com/2011/01/queens-trip-to-american-supermarket.html

"On October 19, 1957, in West Hyattsville, MD, Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip paid an unexpected visit to a local supermarket, their first to any American grocery store. The New York Times reported that the royal couple turned into the appropriately named Queenstown shopping mall on the way home from a football game at College Park and wandered into a "giant food store. " The Queen, escorted by the store's manager, looked over the vegetables, "then moved to the dairy food counters where methods of keeping the food chilled were explained." She was, apparently, also intrigued by the meat counter: "The Queen seemed especially interested in chicken wrapped in transparent plastic and looked hard at a large counter filled with steak." Meanwhile, Prince Philip wandered around the store, eating cheese and crackers..."

GM note: the UK had only gotten off of postwar rationing three years earlier, in 1954. Wiki: 'When did food rationing stop? Fourteen years of food rationing in Britain ended at midnight on 4 July 1954, when restrictions on the sale and purchase of meat and bacon were lifted. ..'

Here is a link to a more in - depth article on the Queen's supermarket visit, from The Saskatoon Star - Phoenix [21 October 1957]; she was fascinated by the cut - up chickens "wrapped in cellophane", also that people could select the goods themselves:

https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=n1ljAAAAIBAJ&sjid=N28NAAAAIBAJ&pg=2759,3115824&dq=queen+elizabeth+supermarket&hl=en

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S Viemeister

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Jan 17, 2021, 1:53:08 PM1/17/21
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On 17/01/2021 17:22, songbird wrote:

> i wonder if i can talk Mom into making some fresh again to
> see what it is like it has been that long. i only remember
> using them in things like chicken soup and beef stroganoff.
> for spaghetti and meatballs we always had the small thin
> noodles of the dried pastas.
>
It's good for lasagna, too.

Taxed and Spent

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Jan 17, 2021, 2:02:43 PM1/17/21
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They must have been really gobsmacked when someone showed them fire.

S Viemeister

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Jan 17, 2021, 2:04:25 PM1/17/21
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Hmmph.

In the dark end of the year, when fresh green vegetables were not
abundant, yes, Granny bought tinned veg. I have a vivid memory of those
little artificially green round things on the plate, the green dye
seeping into the mashed potatoes. Gran (like many people at the time)
didn't even have a fridge, let alone a freezer, so if you wanted a
change from cabbage, neeps, onions, leeks, and carrots, you resorted to
tins.
During the growing season, we always had lovely fresh veg.

Ophelia

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Jan 17, 2021, 2:14:28 PM1/17/21
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"S Viemeister" wrote in message news:i6it69...@mid.individual.net...

On 17/01/2021 10:50, Ophelia wrote:
>
> Â LOL I still have an old hand cranked one:))Â I haven't used it in many
> years. I wonder why I still keep it:))
>
>
Because somewhere in your subconscious, you remember just how tasty
home-made pasta is.

==

Very likely:))

Graham

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Jan 17, 2021, 2:38:10 PM1/17/21
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It wasn't that long ago!!!!

Dave Smith

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Jan 17, 2021, 2:47:44 PM1/17/21
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Just about everything was canned. Cooking usually involved opening at
least a half dozen cans.



Graham

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Jan 17, 2021, 2:55:27 PM1/17/21
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In N.America.
In the 70s, a visiting prof from the US hosted a party in London and when
asked for the recipe for a particular dish the English guests were taken
aback when she replied: "a can of w, 2 cans of x, a jar of y all mixed
together and poured over 2 cans of z"
I received a similar similar reply from a secretary when I was visiting our
Houston office.

Cindy Hamilton

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Jan 17, 2021, 3:43:00 PM1/17/21
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On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 2:04:25 PM UTC-5, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 17/01/2021 17:38, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 12:17:16 PM UTC-5, Graham wrote:
> >> When I was a child, there were 3 grocers in my village. Now there is one,
> >> smallish supermarket.
> >> In those days, if you wanted cream, you had to know a dairy farmer who sold
> >> it "on the side". The only generally available cream was the "top of the
> >> milk" as only non-homogenised milk was delivered by the milk man.
> >
> > I love hearing you codgers talk about the olden times. Was there
> > canned food then?
> >
> Hmmph.

It was something of a joke. I'm not much younger than most people
here, but I grew up in the Detroit suburbs. Supermarkets, every family
had a car or three, a lot of kids had a phone extension in their bedrooms.
Color tv. Convenience foods like boxed cake mix. Delivered pizza.

Cindy Hamilton

GM

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Jan 17, 2021, 4:03:19 PM1/17/21
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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 2:04:25 PM UTC-5, S Viemeister wrote:
> > On 17/01/2021 17:38, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 12:17:16 PM UTC-5, Graham wrote:
> > >> When I was a child, there were 3 grocers in my village. Now there is one,
> > >> smallish supermarket.
> > >> In those days, if you wanted cream, you had to know a dairy farmer who sold
> > >> it "on the side". The only generally available cream was the "top of the
> > >> milk" as only non-homogenised milk was delivered by the milk man.
> > >
> > > I love hearing you codgers talk about the olden times. Was there
> > > canned food then?
> > >
> > Hmmph.
> It was something of a joke. I'm not much younger than most people
> here, but I grew up in the Detroit suburbs. Supermarkets, every family
> had a car or three, a lot of kids had a phone extension in their bedrooms.
> Color tv. Convenience foods like boxed cake mix. Delivered pizza.


City livin'...

In the country we were a bit behind with all those things...

--
Best
Greg
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