Honey bee jobs by age

[Ed Pawlowski]

Found this about honey bees and how their function changes by age.
Shorter life than I imagined too.

https://imgur.com/gallery/znijVj0

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

That was interesting and I didn't know their lifespan was so short either.
Sometimes I'll see a dead bee on the porch on the sidewalk and it looks
perfectly normal. Normal as it hasn't been attacked and injured for it
to be dead. I guess its' life cycle was at its' end.

[Ophelia]

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message news:AMcKE.23141$qD2....@fx27.iad...

Found this about honey bees and how their function changes by age.
Shorter life than I imagined too.

https://imgur.com/gallery/znijVj0

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Oh my!!! They begin working at 1-2 days??

Fascinating:)) Thanks!

[lucreti...@fl.it]

I was surprised by the short life too, sure work til they drop :)

[Terry Coombs]

  No dear , at birth ! Well , actually emergence from the cell . They
come out fully grown and ready to go , the first thing they do is clean
out and polish up the cell they emerged from so it's ready for another
egg .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Thursday, June 6, 2019 at 3:14:47 PM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:
>
> They
> come out fully grown and ready to go , the first thing they do is clean
> out and polish up the cell they emerged from so it's ready for another
> egg .
>

They certainly earn their title 'worker bee.'

[Terry Coombs]

 Did you know that the last "generation" in the fall lives all winter ?

[lucreti...@fl.it]

"Busy as a bee"

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Thursday, June 6, 2019 at 3:29:48 PM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:
>
>  Did you know that the last "generation" in the fall lives all winter ?
>

Because they're not working themselves to death?

[Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl]

On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 14:17:07 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

At what age does is a bee not classified as a minor, and are there
child labor laws for bees?

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____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____

[Dave Smith]

A lot of insects have shorter lives than bees.

[Bruce]

How do you know? Do you number them?

[Terry Coombs]

>> On 2019-06-06 5:54 p.m., itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>> On Thursday, June 6, 2019 at 3:29:48 PM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:
>>>>  Did you know that the last "generation" in the fall lives all winter ?
>>>>
>>> Because they're not working themselves to death?
>>>

  That may be part of it , winter bees don't fly as much as summer bees
- flying many miles a day takes a toll on wings . I don't think that's
all though , there are also physiological differences . Right now I'm
pushing a deadline to check my newest colony for queen cells . If I have
more than 2 I will make another split (new colony) with one or two - but
we don't go into the hives when it's rainy . The bees are all home and
they're cranky , good way to get multiple stings . I made that split 2
weeks ago this coming Sunday , queens usually emerge 16 days after the
egg was laid . I gave them a frame with only eggs , but those may have
been up to 3 days old . In that case I could have queens emerging by
Saturday ... and it's predicted to rain until Sunday . If I miss this
opportunity I'll be locked in to overwintering 5 hives maximum , I was
hoping for 6 .

[Ophelia]

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message news:qdbs7j$v4j$1...@dont-email.me...

On 6/6/2019 2:21 PM, Ophelia wrote:
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>
> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message news:AMcKE.23141$qD2....@fx27.iad...
> Found this about honey bees and how their function changes by age.
> Shorter life than I imagined too.
>
> https://imgur.com/gallery/znijVj0
>
> ===
>
> Oh my!!! They begin working at 1-2 days??
>
> Fascinating:)) Thanks!

No dear , at birth ! Well , actually emergence from the cell . They
come out fully grown and ready to go , the first thing they do is clean
out and polish up the cell they emerged from so it's ready for another
egg .

Snag

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Really???? Wow!!

[Ophelia]

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message news:qdco4d$3ng$1...@dont-email.me...

Snag
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Good luck! I would love to keep bees .... if I knew how:))

[jmcquown]

It sounds very complicated. Terry has lots of land which I imagine is
also required. You wouldn't want hives right next to the house! It's
fun to have someone so knowledgeable about bee-keeping here on RFC. I
must say I never really thought much about the life-cycle of honey bees
before.

Jill

[Bruce]

On Sat, 8 Jun 2019 01:06:47 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

And now you do?

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Sat, 8 Jun 2019 01:06:47 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

The man across the street from us used to keep bees. They weren't a
problem. He has just a regular size lot for a neighborhood developed
in the 50s. He had neighbors on both sides and behind him as well as
across the street.
You didn't really notice the bees until you were in his back yard.
Then the bees could bump into you if you stepped into their path as
they were going about their business. You wouldn't get stung. We
were advised that the bees had pathways and just not to stand in the
path.
He got a lot of honey for the size of his operation (I thought). He
would fill quart jars with honey and I remember that he bought quite a
few cases of jars (12 jars per case).
We bought honey from him for many years until he moved away.
Janet US

[Dave Smith]

On 2019-06-08 10:23 a.m., U.S. Janet B. wrote:

> The man across the street from us used to keep bees. They weren't a
> problem. He has just a regular size lot for a neighborhood developed
> in the 50s. He had neighbors on both sides and behind him as well as
> across the street.
> You didn't really notice the bees until you were in his back yard.
> Then the bees could bump into you if you stepped into their path as
> they were going about their business. You wouldn't get stung. We
> were advised that the bees had pathways and just not to stand in the
> path.
> He got a lot of honey for the size of his operation (I thought). He
> would fill quart jars with honey and I remember that he bought quite a
> few cases of jars (12 jars per case).
> We bought honey from him for many years until he moved away.

There are lots of orchards and vineyards around here and the bee keepers
set out hives to help with pollination. I like to think that eating
local honey helps to fight off allergies. I eat local honey and have no
serious allergy issues. My wife does not eat honey and see suffers from
allergies. I is anecdotal and too small a sample, but it works for me.

[graham]

Honey bees are only dangerous when you a a few feet from the hive and
the guard bees go for you. When we prepared ours for winter, shaking the
bees from the honey supers etc., I often didn't bother with gloves or
veil. I rarely got stung.

[Ophelia]

"jmcquown" wrote in message news:JnHKE.4597$R23....@fx01.iad...

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Nor have I:) I enjoy reading about them.

[GM]

That's coz you ply the bees with your splendid baked goods, graham...

;-)

--
Best
Greg

[Gary]

graham wrote:
>
> Honey bees are only dangerous when you a a few feet from the hive and
> the guard bees go for you.

No bees or wasps are outright agressive. They will only attack
when they feel threatened. Humans that is. I have read that
wasps will attack honey bees. True? Don't know.

In my painting days. I would never kill any just to paint a
stupid house. Wasp nests were common up under the eves of houses.
Whenever one was encountered either someone went up the ladder
and threw a cup of paint thinners on the nest (killing them all
immediately) or they called me to do the painting in that spot.

I don't kill any creature unneccesarily, certainly not kill a
colony just to paint a house. We had one customer once that felt
the same way as I did. So I got the job to paint around the nest.
It was a wasp nest right in the corner. I put my ladder up right
underneath the corner. As I came up the ladder, about 50 wasps
were all looking down and watching me. I said "hi" to them then
slowly started painting.

First to the right and they all turned to the right and watched
me move slowly. Once I finished that side, I did the left side of
the nest. They all turned that way too and watched my hand. lol
it was funny. All the time I was talking to them. Yeah, I'm
weird.

After doing both sides, I had the actual corner left where the
nest was attached. I did it very slowly on each side and even
dabbed paint underneath the nest but not touching it. Again, they
all turned and watched my hand.

That was interesting and funny to me as they all 'group turned'
to watch the hand. My coworkers thought I was nuts but I knew
that they won't attack unless provoked.

Note: no humans or wasps were harmed in this story. ;)

[Bruce]

On Sun, 09 Jun 2019 06:20:52 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>graham wrote:
>>
>> Honey bees are only dangerous when you a a few feet from the hive and
>> the guard bees go for you.
>
>No bees or wasps are outright agressive. They will only attack
>when they feel threatened. Humans that is. I have read that
>wasps will attack honey bees. True? Don't know.
>
>In my painting days. I would never kill any just to paint a
>stupid house. Wasp nests were common up under the eves of houses.
>Whenever one was encountered either someone went up the ladder
>and threw a cup of paint thinners on the nest (killing them all
>immediately) or they called me to do the painting in that spot.
>
>I don't kill any creature unneccesarily

Except when you get hungry.

[Gary]

Bruce wrote:

>
> Gary wrote:
> >I don't kill any creature unneccesarily
>
> Except when you get hungry.

That's not killing unnecessarily, Bruce.
I eat what I kill.

[Dave Smith]

On 2019-06-09 6:20 a.m., Gary wrote:
> graham wrote:
>>
>> Honey bees are only dangerous when you a a few feet from the hive and
>> the guard bees go for you.
>
> No bees or wasps are outright agressive. They will only attack
> when they feel threatened. Humans that is. I have read that
> wasps will attack honey bees. True? Don't know.

True.... but hornets are just plain nasty and if you accidentally
disturb them they will sting. I can't take any chances after my
experience getting stung in the mouth, so I kill them on side. If I spot
a next on my property I will come back at night, give it a doze of wasp
and hornet bomb, then dig up the nest, throw some gas on it and set it
on fire.

[Ophelia]

"Gary" wrote in message news:5CFCDD84...@att.net...

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Congratulations!!! That is amazing:)) Well done:)

[col...@gmail.com]

In the last few days there was hornet nest in a bedroom window but a bird destroyed it.

[FMurtz]

Why?,They have hives on high rise near cities and many people keep hives
in their yard.

[GM]

Correct...there are a number of hives atop high - rises even in downtown Chicago..."lots of land" not a requirement...go here:

https://www.chicagohoneycoop.com/new-beekeepers

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Best
Greg

[A Moose in Love]

On Thursday, June 6, 2019 at 2:17:09 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Found this about honey bees and how their function changes by age.
> Shorter life than I imagined too.
>
> https://imgur.com/gallery/znijVj0

their waggle dance is interesting. bees that have found flowers tell the other bees where those flowers are by doing a dance.

https://askabiologist.asu.edu/bee-dance-game/introduction.html

[Terry Coombs]

  Not necessary but still ... those high-rise dwellers don't have the
pleasure of watching a bluejay pecking at a suet feeder that's 18" from
the dining room window . We actually planned on getting bees while we
lived in Memphis , took the class and everything . Decided after a bit
of research that the neighborhood was not conducive to having bees . All
it would take is for one of those oppressed minority citizens to get
stung and we'd get sued out of house and home .

[A Moose in Love]

blue jays are thieves. they are wonderful. I was in the park once feeding squirrels; had a peanut on my leg and a blue jay flew on my leg and stole it. the city ruined that park. they had benches made of a concrete frame with wooden slats for sitting and leaning back on. they were nice and comfy. they replaced those benches with some kind of cold hard plastic benches; put in a statue honouring firemen, putting in a sidewalk. what shit.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, June 12, 2019 at 5:13:23 PM UTC-5, A Moose in Love wrote:
>
> the city ruined that park. they had benches made of a concrete frame with wooden slats for sitting and leaning back on. they were nice and comfy. they replaced those benches with some kind of cold hard plastic benches; put in a statue honouring firemen, putting in a sidewalk. what shit.
>

The city paid some artist to come up with this statue and stuck in the city
park that is two blocks from my house. It's called 'melting bird' or some-
thing like that. All it looks like to me is snot dripping off its' beak.

https://i.postimg.cc/W4D2X3kL/Melting-Bird.jpg

[A Moose in Love]

that's pretty bad. so is my park.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Of course when I say the 'city paid some artist' that really means we tax payers
paid for this very large aluminum bird on a pedestal.

:o/

[graham]

You have nothing to complain about!!
Look at these:
http://tiny.cc/bu867y
Can$500k

http://tiny.cc/sy867y
Can$470k
1% of the cost of a big project has to go towards public "art".
Sometimes they pick a good piece.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Evidently they did not ask the taxpayers to vote on it. That is one
strange bird.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Many towns/states have that 1% deal. I can appreciate some forms of art
but a big blue ring does not arouse me at all.

[graham]

It aroused much anger in Calgary. I think a German artist but it was
fabricated here.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, June 12, 2019 at 8:01:43 PM UTC-5, graham wrote:
>
> You have nothing to complain about!!
> Look at these:
> http://tiny.cc/bu867y
> Can$500k
>
> http://tiny.cc/sy867y
> Can$470k
> 1% of the cost of a big project has to go towards public "art".
> Sometimes they pick a good piece.
>

I get this notice on each of your pictures.

"Sorry, we weren't able to locate that URL. Please double check your link details and try again. Or check back later." Sniff-sniff

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

I kept clicking on your pictures and they finally did show up, SORRY.

But they do have me scratching my head as I'm probably guessing the residents
were also scratching theirs.

[Dave Smith]

It might have been more impressive had it been situated elsewhere.
Sitting in the middle of the highway it just looks like the remnants of
a construction or demolition job.

[graham]

I quite like the idea behind it (which is more than I can say about the
ring) but it's really, really ugly and is on the Trans-Canada at the
western edge of the city.

[Leonard Blaisdell]

In article <4b62885d-1f01-4550...@googlegroups.com>,

<"itsjoan...@webtv.net"> wrote:

> The city paid some artist to come up with this statue and stuck in the city
> park that is two blocks from my house. It's called 'melting bird' or some-
> thing like that. All it looks like to me is snot dripping off its' beak.
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/W4D2X3kL/Melting-Bird.jpg

Reno has become a dumping ground for old "Burning Man" sculptures.
Google "reno sculptures" to see a bunch. We even have a "Space Whale".
The area's oldest and best sculpture is a black widow made from a
Volkswagen. Well...at least it's the best to me. Google "reno spider"
to see it. The spider predates Burning Man by fifteen years and moves
around a lot. Nobody wants it. Nobody wants to get rid of it.

leo

[Hank Rogers]

Highrise ...really? You don't have to have a basement to keep the
bees happy? What about if yoose live in a goat barn?

[dsi1]

My guess is that it illustrates how nature is slipping through our fingers. I like it because a melting bird is a flight of fancy and it makes hard metal look like liquid.

[Gary]

Art is so personal though. A city should actually hold a citizen
vote for expensive art like that. Show several choices and just
let the people vote.

The first next to a highway, looked like a pic from Road Warriors
with ruins from a lost civilization. heheh "The onramp to the
apocalypse" ;)

The second one (circle) just lame and blah. Maybe a mobius strip
might have been a bit better?

Virginia Beach did an art sculpture a few years ago (or more).
It's right near me. They built a traffic circle and placed this
in the center. It's unpainted aluminum and looks somewhat ugly
during the day. However, at night they shine blue spotlights on
it and....it looks pretty cool as blue.

Don't know what they paid for that but certainly not cheap. I
drive by the darn thing most days. It weird too but I do like
this one. Sorry about the tiny pic on this link:
http://frederickartscouncil.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/the-wave-Larramore-Virginia-Beach-300x237.jpg

[Ophelia]

"Gary" wrote in message news:5D022BF9...@att.net...

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These are what we have here in Scotland:) There are a few I have seen
of the horses heads:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=scottish+sculptures+on+road+roadsides&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=XHzMNGN8t69FmM%253A%252CB9YE-hj25Bz-xM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kRuz_rLRVldkm5jMWKksrcXGiI4gA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj37aO17ubiAhUJdBQKHeulCT4Q9QEwA3oECAAQCg#imgrc=XHzMNGN8t69FmM:

[Gary]

Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>
> The area's oldest and best sculpture is a black widow made from a
> Volkswagen. Well...at least it's the best to me. Google "reno spider"
> to see it.

I like that one but they forgot 2 legs. :-o

[Gary]

I googled scotland sculptures. I like those. The tall horsehead
are especially cool.

[Ophelia]

"Gary" wrote in message news:5D0376B7...@att.net...

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Yes, they are my favourite too:))) Most of them are huge and near the
roads:))

[Gary]

Giant chess pieces! :)

I played a chess game where, move a knight to a pawn square, they
both fought with swords for a moment then the pawn foot soldier
lost, fell down and disappeared. Or did I see that in a movie? I
remember it well but not sure. lol