Glorified Hot Dogs

[fos]

i'm not even sure this can be considered cooking. it's not creative and
is just heating stuff up. is a family thing, been eating these since i
was knee high to a grasshopper. everyone i've shown these too over the
years has said they never seen them before and i'm curious who here has.

photo;
https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=22023#top_display_media


ingredients:
pack of ball park franks
horseradish mustard [*]
mashed potatoes


put franks into a pot of boiling water and turn off the heat. let sit
for 5 minutes until franks are hot. slice franks lengthwise opening them
like a book. slather with mustard. top with mashed potatoes. bake in
oven at 350-375 for half hour-ish or until potatoes start browning.
optional, add a couple small pads of butter on top of the potatoes. we
stopped doing that, there's plenty of fat in the tubes of mystery meat.

enjoy.


[*] the best horseradish mustard;
https://www.webersmustard.com/product/horseradish-mustard


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[Gary]

fos wrote:
> [*] the best horseradish mustard;
> https://www.webersmustard.com/product/horseradish-mustard

OK, I'll give that a try someday if I ever see it. I do like hot mustards.

[bruce bowser]

In Pittsburgh and Chicago, they load down hotdogs with almost anything.

[Dave Smith]

On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 15:06:26 -0000 (UTC), heyjoe <th...@is.invalid>
wrote:

>fos wrote :

>
>> everyone i've shown these too over the
>> years has said they never seen them before and i'm curious who here has.
>>
>> photo;
>> https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=22023#top_display_media
>

>I haven't!
>And now I'll never be able to unsee them. OMG <g>
Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is NOT my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe
:)))))))))))
--
This is NOT a post by Dave Smith

[Dave Smith]

[Dave Smith]

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On 1/14/2022 8:30 AM, fos wrote:
> i'm not even sure this can be considered cooking. it's not creative and
> is just heating stuff up. is a family thing, been eating these since i
> was knee high to a grasshopper. everyone i've shown these too over the
> years has said they never seen them before and i'm curious who here has.
>
> photo;
> https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=22023#top_display_media
>
>

That's The WURST!

[dsi1]

I have seen a hot dog and cheese covered with batter and diced potato and deep fried. It's a Korean food craze. They like to coat corn dogs with stuff and deep fry it.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/honqMpgWw9E1kUGN6

[Bryan Simmons]

No ketchup on hot dogs in Chicago (or anywhere else as far as I'm
concerned).

--Bryan

[Dave Smith]

This is NOT my frogger.

[Dave Smith]

[fos]

i recently learned that in Chicago ketchup on hot dogs is considered
sacrilegious and that the people there are quite passionate about it.

i've driven through Chicago several times on the way out west and
stopped there only to get deep dish pizzas. once this pandemic starts
waning and we hit the road to the west again, i can't wait to stop at
a dog house in Chicago, order some hot hot dogs, then proceed to take
several packets of ketchup out of my pocket to put on the dogs. the
more busy the place is, the more fun it will be.

real life trolling is far superior to trolling on Usenet. :D

[fos]

On 2022-01-14, Bryan Simmons <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:

> No ketchup on hot dogs in Chicago

not when Flood of Sins comes rolling though. lol

[fos]

On 2022-01-14, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 3:30:54 AM UTC-10, fos wrote:
>> i'm not even sure this can be considered cooking. it's not creative and
>> is just heating stuff up. is a family thing, been eating these since i
>> was knee high to a grasshopper. everyone i've shown these too over the
>> years has said they never seen them before and i'm curious who here has.

>> photo;
>> https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=22023#top_display_media

>> ingredients:
>> pack of ball park franks
>> horseradish mustard [*]
>> mashed potatoes

>> put franks into a pot of boiling water and turn off the heat. let sit
>> for 5 minutes until franks are hot. slice franks lengthwise opening them
>> like a book. slather with mustard. top with mashed potatoes. bake in
>> oven at 350-375 for half hour-ish or until potatoes start browning.
>> optional, add a couple small pads of butter on top of the potatoes. we
>> stopped doing that, there's plenty of fat in the tubes of mystery meat.

>> enjoy.

>> [*] the best horseradish mustard;
>> https://www.webersmustard.com/product/horseradish-mustard

> I have seen a hot dog and cheese covered with batter and diced potato and deep fried. It's a Korean food craze. They like to coat corn dogs with stuff and deep fry it.

> https://photos.app.goo.gl/honqMpgWw9E1kUGN6

Asian's gonna be gettin thicc they keep eating crap like that.

i mostly avoid deep fried anything. have it a few times a year at most.
this sunday am making some crab rangoon to go with the crabcakes. at $25
for a pound of blue crab claw meat, i better have some mouthgasms, too.
that'll be it for deep fried anything for a few months for me.

[US Janet]

I use both on my dogs, ketchup and mustard. The no ketchup on dogs
must be a new thing in the last couple of decades. ;)
Janet US

[GM]

The "no ketchup" thang for Chicago hot dogs is just a silly local affectation, I use ketchup on dogs
when I feel like it...

Another silly Chicago culinary affectation is Chicago deep dish pizza vs. NYC thin crust
pizza - the deep dish stuff is gluey and gross, okay if you like a lotta dough...

The other local Chicago thang is Eyetalian Beef sammiches. Okay, but not so attractive that I
can remember having an urge for one for years...

<shrug>

Chicago has a decent food scene, but the above three mentioned things are pretty plebian
affairs - I'll take an Iowa breaded pork tenderloin sammich over any of the above stuff any day...

--
GM

[Dave Smith]

I rarely eat hot dogs, but when I do, mustard is an essential, a little
relish will make it even better and onions will take them a little
closer to perfection. I do not like ketchup on hotdogs .... or on burgers.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Well, my frogger jumped in with a smidge of humor. But personally,
I'll not try them as they don't look one bit appealing. Browned mashed
potatoes on a split open hot dog. Ummmmm, ok but no thanks.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 1:23:41 PM UTC-6, bryang...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> No ketchup on hot dogs in Chicago (or anywhere else as far as I'm
> concerned).
>
> --Bryan
>

I'm with you on this and no ketchup on hamburgers either.

[bruce bowser]

Me too, plus relish. Onions, jalapeno peppers, chili and cheese if available

> The no ketchup on dogs must be a new thing in the last couple of decades. ;)

They might think its too harsh on the teeth, like non-diet soda.

[Michael Trew]

These hot dogs were actually discussed here recently. Steve/Squertz was
posing pictures from old local/church cook books and this style hot dog
with mashed potatoes was mentioned. I forgot what it was called; maybe
someone else can (or already has) chime in.

[Michael Trew]

I've heard this mentioned several times growing up, about the
"seriousness" of Chicago hot dogs. It would be more fun, rather than
packets, to insist for ketchup at the hot dog stand, and border-line
make a scene if they are difficult about it... Lol

[GM]

This is an infamous Chicago hot dog place, you WILL be insulted if you don't order "correctly":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wieners_Circle

"The Wieners Circle is a hot dog stand on Clark Street in the Lincoln Park neighborhood of
Chicago, Illinois, United States. It is known for its Maxwell Street Polish, Char-dogs, hamburgers,
cheese fries, and the mutual verbal abuse between the employees and the customers during
the late-weekend hours.

Sometime in the early 1990s Larry Gold, one of the proprietors, called a drunk and distracted
customer an "asshole" in order to get his attention. This set off the late-night abuse culture
of the restaurant. The atmosphere can range from playful to hostile. While the atmosphere
during business hours in the daytime is normal, the language used by both the staff and
customers during the late hours is notoriously foul and aggressive. On the weekends, the
establishment stays open as late as 5:00 am, drawing many drunken customers who have
arrived from bars and clubs

One of the more famous employees is Roberta "Poochie" Jackson, who was featured
(along with the restaurant) in a 2007 episode of the Showtime television version of the
Chicago Public Radio program This American Life, as well as an episode of Extreme
Fast Food on the Travel Channel. Numerous TV crews have stopped by to capture
naive customers attempt to slander staff with insults — including a classic bit from
Triumph the Insult Dog. Screaming insults at stuff isn’t the brightest move as it’s not
unusual to see a cocky customer sent home with tears after being dealt with a hilarious
and cruel response from an employee. But it’s all fun for observers, and the char dogs,
cheddar fries, and burgers are tasty and affordable.

Journalist Catherine Price listed The Wieners Circle in her book 101 Places Not to See Before
You Die, calling it "a microcosm of segregation in Chicago", and commenting, "If our metric
were 'places that make me sad about humanity,' late night at Wiener's Circle would have been
at the top..."

</>

[dsi1]

Perhaps. My guess is that it ain't what people are eating that makes them fat, it is just how much they're eating. As far as cooking is concerned, Americans have had a fear of frying and oils since the 60s. That fear has made American cuisine rather boring. Professional cooks don't ever hold back on oil.

[Dave Smith]

It's also what they eat. If people eat carrots, they can eat a lot
more than if they eat hamburgers.

[Dave Smith]

Uhm, Dit is mijn kikker. Ghe Ghe Ghe.

[dsi1]

You probably should stay away from what I had for breakfast. Bacon steak, eggs, and rice. I'm a sucker for pork belly.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/FTRVazbtJ3Xqoh1B7

[Dave Smith]

On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 23:18:16 -0800 (PST), dsi1

If I had that for breakfast, I'd go back to bed afterwards.

[Bryan Simmons]

I was told by someone from Chicago that it is bad form to smash
down your Italian beef sandwich, to make it easier to eat. Personally,
I detest giardiniera, so mine wouldn't be as thick to begin with.

--Bryan

[Bryan Simmons]

This home cook never holds back on oil.

--Bryan

[GM]

Just may have an Eyetalian Beef today, work graciously gave us a $50 Grubhub gift card, so...

I do like the giardiniera, though...

--
GM

[Bryan Simmons]

John's work gave them a $50 Pornhub gift card...Wait...John doesn't have a job.
>
> --
> GM

--Bryan

[Cindy Hamilton]

And now that hamburgers have been introduced...

I recently became aware of the Fluff Screamer:

<https://www.atlasobscura.com/foods/fluff-screamer

Cindy Hamilton

[Bryan Simmons]

NEVER ask for relish on a hot dog in Chicago. What you would get
is this horrible, bright green sweet pickle relish that looks like it
might cause genetic mutations.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/488288784579213073/

--Bryan

[Gary]

US Janet wrote:
> I use both on my dogs, ketchup and mustard. The no ketchup on dogs
> must be a new thing in the last couple of decades. ;)

Hot dogs are so very versatile and a great snack to make in between
commercials during any tv show or sports game. I always keep some in
the freezer.

Just the other day a had a couple of the cheap hotdogs on bread.
Cheap meaning $1 for an 8-pak. I just put some Nathan's spicy mustard
and some ketchup on them. Delicious to me just like that. A small pile
of salty chips would have been a nice side.

I also sometimes add many variations of other ingredients too. Chopped
onion, relish, cheese, chili....the sky is the limit.

OTOH, whenever I have all-beef dogs, I just heat them up (microwave) and
put on a fresh bun or slice of white bread. No condiments at all - the
all beef flavor is a stand alone good taste to me.

Oscar Meyer all beef is my favorite. Very fatty and tasty.

I also love those sausage dogs (like Johnsonville) with or without
cheese in the filling. No condiments for those either.

[Gary]

I agree with all that.

> I do not like ketchup on hotdogs .... or on burgers.

I don't agree. I like it on hot dogs and burgers too.
My main use for ketchup is the cheap salad dressing:
- 2/3 mayo
- 1/3 ketchup

The other thing is for meatloaf topping *before cooking*
Use plain or mixed with a little worcestershire sauce

[Kelly O'Hara]

Cindy Hamilton <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I recently became aware of the Fluff Screamer:

Without following the link, sounds like a Fluff Screamer is taking us
into John Kuthe territory.

[Dave Smith]

Meatloaf is one of the few things on which I use ketchup. I use some on
the mix, smear it in the baking pan and on top of the loaf when it goes
into the oven and as a condiment with the cooked meatloaf. It is also
good with macaroni and cheese and on a toasted western.

[Graham]

Mix some with a little lemon juice and Worcester Sauce and it's good for
dipping shrimp.

[Cindy Hamilton]

You should follow the link. It will rock your world.

And the page is G rated.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bryan Simmons]

The Fluff Screamer belongs in the "People SUCK!" thread.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

--Bryan

[Cindy Hamilton]

This is the part where I confess I first read about the Fluff Screamer
in a science fiction novel.

Cindy Hamilton

[Kelly O'Hara]

A doobie is required before having one of those.

I thought it was going to be some kind of burger on a Krispy Kreme donut
with marshmallow fluff and "special" sauce.

[Mike Duffy]

On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 19:55:18 -0500, Michael Trew wrote:

> I've heard this mentioned several times growing up, about the
> "seriousness" of Chicago hot dogs. It would be more fun, rather than
> packets, to insist for ketchup at the hot dog stand, and border-line
> make a scene if they are difficult about it... Lol

I'd check out the demeaner of those in line behind me first.

Chicago gangsters will off you just for wearing the wrong colour shoes.

[Dave Smith]

Uhm, Dit is mijn kikker. Ghe Ghe Ghe.

[US Janet]

I enjoyed looking through that link.
Janet US

[Dave Smith]

On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 23:18:16 -0800 (PST), dsi1

Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

[US Janet]

or surimi :)
Janet US

[GM]

Absolutely...

--
GM

[Dave Smith]

This is NOT my frogger.

[dsi1]

I use ketchup a lot in cooking - about as much as soy sauce. It's used as a sweetener and it brightens up a dish. Da Hawaiians like to put ketchup on eggs.

[Dave Smith]

Come to think of it.... I used to have ketchup on scrambled eggs, and I
have it on a fried egg sandwiches. That is something that I eat only
once or twice a year. I said before that I like it on toasted western
sandwiches, but, come to think of it, I have not have one of those in
years. I think the last time I had one I was still working, and I have
been retired almost 18 years now. Perhaps I should go out for lunch one
of these days and have one.

[Dave Smith]

On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 10:17:19 -0700, US Janet <USJ...@jan6noplace.com>
wrote:

Can you go into more detail? I don't get it

[Dave Smith]

Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

[Dave Smith]

On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 10:15:42 -0700, US Janet <USJ...@jan6noplace.com>
wrote:

[Dave Smith]

[Dave Smith]

On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 15:03:20 +0000, Kelly O'Hara
<kell...@email.invalid> wrote:

>Cindy Hamilton <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 8:47:56 AM UTC-5, Kelly O'Hara wrote:
>>> Cindy Hamilton <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >I recently became aware of the Fluff Screamer:
>>> Without following the link, sounds like a Fluff Screamer is taking us
>>> into John Kuthe territory.
>>
>>You should follow the link. It will rock your world.
>>
>>And the page is G rated.
>
>A doobie is required before having one of those.
>
>I thought it was going to be some kind of burger on a Krispy Kreme donut
>with marshmallow fluff and "special" sauce.

[Dave Smith]

[Dave Smith]

[Dave Smith]

[Dave Smith]

On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 07:08:34 -0700, Graham <g.st...@shaw.ca> wrote:

[Dave Smith]

[Dave Smith]

On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 14:14:44 -0800 (PST), GM
<gregorymorr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> US Janet wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 20:37:07 -0000 (UTC), fos <f...@sdf.org> wrote:
>>

>> >On 2022-01-14, bruce bowser <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 9:09:01 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> >>> fos wrote:
>> >>>> [*] the best horseradish mustard;
>> >>>> https://www.webersmustard.com/product/horseradish-mustard
>> >>> OK, I'll give that a try someday if I ever see it. I do like hot mustards.
>> >
>> >> In Pittsburgh and Chicago, they load down hotdogs with almost anything.
>> >
>> >i recently learned that in Chicago ketchup on hot dogs is considered
>> >sacrilegious and that the people there are quite passionate about it.

>> >
>> >i've driven through Chicago several times on the way out west and
>> >stopped there only to get deep dish pizzas. once this pandemic starts
>> >waning and we hit the road to the west again, i can't wait to stop at
>> >a dog house in Chicago, order some hot hot dogs, then proceed to take
>> >several packets of ketchup out of my pocket to put on the dogs. the
>> >more busy the place is, the more fun it will be.
>> >
>> >real life trolling is far superior to trolling on Usenet. :D
>> I use both on my dogs, ketchup and mustard. The no ketchup on dogs
>> must be a new thing in the last couple of decades. ;)

>> Janet US
>
>
>The "no ketchup" thang for Chicago hot dogs is just a silly local affectation, I use ketchup on dogs
>when I feel like it...
>
>Another silly Chicago culinary affectation is Chicago deep dish pizza vs. NYC thin crust
>pizza - the deep dish stuff is gluey and gross, okay if you like a lotta dough...
>
>The other local Chicago thang is Eyetalian Beef sammiches. Okay, but not so attractive that I
>can remember having an urge for one for years...
>
><shrug>
>
>Chicago has a decent food scene, but the above three mentioned things are pretty plebian
>affairs - I'll take an Iowa breaded pork tenderloin sammich over any of the above stuff any day...

[Dave Smith]

On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 20:37:07 -0000 (UTC), fos <f...@sdf.org> wrote:

>On 2022-01-14, bruce bowser <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 9:09:01 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>>> fos wrote:
>>>> [*] the best horseradish mustard;
>>>> https://www.webersmustard.com/product/horseradish-mustard
>>> OK, I'll give that a try someday if I ever see it. I do like hot mustards.
>
>> In Pittsburgh and Chicago, they load down hotdogs with almost anything.
>
>i recently learned that in Chicago ketchup on hot dogs is considered
>sacrilegious and that the people there are quite passionate about it.
>
>i've driven through Chicago several times on the way out west and
>stopped there only to get deep dish pizzas. once this pandemic starts
>waning and we hit the road to the west again, i can't wait to stop at
>a dog house in Chicago, order some hot hot dogs, then proceed to take
>several packets of ketchup out of my pocket to put on the dogs. the
>more busy the place is, the more fun it will be.
>
>real life trolling is far superior to trolling on Usenet. :D

[bruce bowser]

Dakine. If you have a breakfast with eggs, hash browns and bacon, i'm sure ketchup with find its way away from the potatoes to the eggs and even bacon.

[dsi1]

Ketchup goes good with potatoes and scrambled eggs. I haven't seen anybody use ketchup on rice or bacon. What I'd like to see is kim chee served at breakfast - and also lunch and dinner. Then my life would be just perfect.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/fSuYgrgaL4FGAGxq5

[Dave Smith]

Can you go into more detail? I don't get it

[Dave Smith]

[Dave Smith]

On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 02:35:20 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
<bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 4:15:29 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2022-01-14 4:48 p.m., US Janet wrote:

>> > I use both on my dogs, ketchup and mustard. The no ketchup on dogs
>> > must be a new thing in the last couple of decades. ;)
>> >

>> I rarely eat hot dogs, but when I do, mustard is an essential, a little
>> relish will make it even better and onions will take them a little

>> closer to perfection. I do not like ketchup on hotdogs .... or on burgers.
>>
>NEVER ask for relish on a hot dog in Chicago. What you would get
>is this horrible, bright green sweet pickle relish that looks like it
>might cause genetic mutations.
>https://www.pinterest.com/pin/488288784579213073/
>
>--Bryan

This is NOT my frogger.

--
This is NOT a post by Dave Smith

Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe.

[Dave Smith]

On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 13:30:49 -0000 (UTC), fos <f...@sdf.org> wrote:

>i'm not even sure this can be considered cooking. it's not creative and
>is just heating stuff up. is a family thing, been eating these since i
>was knee high to a grasshopper. everyone i've shown these too over the
>years has said they never seen them before and i'm curious who here has.
>
>photo;
>https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=22023#top_display_media
>
>
>ingredients:
>pack of ball park franks
>horseradish mustard [*]
>mashed potatoes
>
>
>put franks into a pot of boiling water and turn off the heat. let sit
>for 5 minutes until franks are hot. slice franks lengthwise opening them
>like a book. slather with mustard. top with mashed potatoes. bake in
>oven at 350-375 for half hour-ish or until potatoes start browning.
>optional, add a couple small pads of butter on top of the potatoes. we
>stopped doing that, there's plenty of fat in the tubes of mystery meat.
>
>enjoy.

>
>
>[*] the best horseradish mustard;
>https://www.webersmustard.com/product/horseradish-mustard

[Dave Smith]

On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 05:56:22 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>On 1/14/2022 5:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2022-01-14 4:48 p.m., US Janet wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 20:37:07 -0000 (UTC), fos <f...@sdf.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> i've driven through Chicago several times on the way out west and
>>>> stopped there only to get deep dish pizzas. once this pandemic starts
>>>> waning and we hit the road to the west again, i can't wait to stop at
>>>> a dog house in Chicago, order some hot hot dogs, then proceed to take
>>>> several packets of ketchup out of my pocket to put on the dogs. the
>>>> more busy the place is, the more fun it will be.
>>>>
>>>> real life trolling is far superior to trolling on Usenet. :D
>>>
>>> I use both on my dogs, ketchup and mustard.   The no ketchup on dogs
>>> must be a new thing in the last couple of decades. ;)
>>>
>>
>> I rarely eat hot dogs, but when I do, mustard is an essential, a little
>> relish will make it even better and onions will take them a little
>> closer to perfection.
>

>I agree with all that.

>
>> I do not like ketchup on hotdogs .... or on burgers.
>

>I don't agree. I like it on hot dogs and burgers too.
>My main use for ketchup is the cheap salad dressing:
> - 2/3 mayo
> - 1/3 ketchup
>
>The other thing is for meatloaf topping *before cooking*
>Use plain or mixed with a little worcestershire sauce

Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is NOT my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe
:)))))))))))

[dsi1]

On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 12:35:23 AM UTC-10, bryang...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 4:15:29 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2022-01-14 4:48 p.m., US Janet wrote:
> > > On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 20:37:07 -0000 (UTC), fos <f...@sdf.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> i've driven through Chicago several times on the way out west and
> > >> stopped there only to get deep dish pizzas. once this pandemic starts
> > >> waning and we hit the road to the west again, i can't wait to stop at
> > >> a dog house in Chicago, order some hot hot dogs, then proceed to take
> > >> several packets of ketchup out of my pocket to put on the dogs. the
> > >> more busy the place is, the more fun it will be.
> > >>
> > >> real life trolling is far superior to trolling on Usenet. :D
> > >
> > > I use both on my dogs, ketchup and mustard. The no ketchup on dogs
> > > must be a new thing in the last couple of decades. ;)
> > >
> > I rarely eat hot dogs, but when I do, mustard is an essential, a little
> > relish will make it even better and onions will take them a little

> > closer to perfection. I do not like ketchup on hotdogs .... or on burgers.
> >
> NEVER ask for relish on a hot dog in Chicago. What you would get
> is this horrible, bright green sweet pickle relish that looks like it
> might cause genetic mutations.
> https://www.pinterest.com/pin/488288784579213073/
>
> --Bryan

That relish would go great with red Hawaiian hot dogs. The wife and kids are afraid to eat those dogs!

https://www.samsclub.com/p/redondo-s-hawaiian-winners-3-lb-package/158083

[Dave Smith]

This is NOT my frogger.

[Dave Smith]

On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 01:47:13 -0800 (PST), GM
<gregorymorr...@gmail.com> wrote:

>bryang...@gmail.com wrote:
>

>> On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 7:18:35 PM UTC-6, GM wrote:
>> > Michael Trew wrote:
>> >
>> > > On 1/14/2022 15:37, fos wrote:

>> > > > On 2022-01-14, bruce bowser<bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >> On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 9:09:01 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> > > >>> fos wrote:

>> > > >>>> [*] the best horseradish mustard;
>> > > >>>> https://www.webersmustard.com/product/horseradish-mustard

>> > > >>> OK, I'll give that a try someday if I ever see it. I do like hot mustards.
>> > > >
>> > > >> In Pittsburgh and Chicago, they load down hotdogs with almost anything.
>> > > >
>> > > > i recently learned that in Chicago ketchup on hot dogs is considered
>> > > > sacrilegious and that the people there are quite passionate about it.
>> > > >

>> > > > i've driven through Chicago several times on the way out west and
>> > > > stopped there only to get deep dish pizzas. once this pandemic starts
>> > > > waning and we hit the road to the west again, i can't wait to stop at
>> > > > a dog house in Chicago, order some hot hot dogs, then proceed to take
>> > > > several packets of ketchup out of my pocket to put on the dogs. the
>> > > > more busy the place is, the more fun it will be.
>> > > >
>> > > > real life trolling is far superior to trolling on Usenet. :D

>> > > I've heard this mentioned several times growing up, about the
>> > > "seriousness" of Chicago hot dogs. It would be more fun, rather than
>> > > packets, to insist for ketchup at the hot dog stand, and border-line
>> > > make a scene if they are difficult about it... Lol

>> > This is an infamous Chicago hot dog place, you WILL be insulted if you don't order "correctly":
>> >
>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wieners_Circle
>> >
>> > "The Wieners Circle is a hot dog stand on Clark Street in the Lincoln Park neighborhood of
>> > Chicago, Illinois, United States. It is known for its Maxwell Street Polish, Char-dogs, hamburgers,
>> > cheese fries, and the mutual verbal abuse between the employees and the customers during
>> > the late-weekend hours.
>> >
>> > Sometime in the early 1990s Larry Gold, one of the proprietors, called a drunk and distracted
>> > customer an "asshole" in order to get his attention. This set off the late-night abuse culture
>> > of the restaurant. The atmosphere can range from playful to hostile. While the atmosphere
>> > during business hours in the daytime is normal, the language used by both the staff and
>> > customers during the late hours is notoriously foul and aggressive. On the weekends, the
>> > establishment stays open as late as 5:00 am, drawing many drunken customers who have
>> > arrived from bars and clubs
>> >
>> > One of the more famous employees is Roberta "Poochie" Jackson, who was featured
>> > (along with the restaurant) in a 2007 episode of the Showtime television version of the
>> > Chicago Public Radio program This American Life, as well as an episode of Extreme
>> > Fast Food on the Travel Channel. Numerous TV crews have stopped by to capture
>> > naive customers attempt to slander staff with insults — including a classic bit from
>> > Triumph the Insult Dog. Screaming insults at stuff isn’t the brightest move as it’s not
>> > unusual to see a cocky customer sent home with tears after being dealt with a hilarious
>> > and cruel response from an employee. But it’s all fun for observers, and the char dogs,
>> > cheddar fries, and burgers are tasty and affordable.
>> >
>> > Journalist Catherine Price listed The Wieners Circle in her book 101 Places Not to See Before
>> > You Die, calling it "a microcosm of segregation in Chicago", and commenting, "If our metric
>> > were 'places that make me sad about humanity,' late night at Wiener's Circle would have been
>> > at the top..."
>> >
>> I was told by someone from Chicago that it is bad form to smash
>> down your Italian beef sandwich, to make it easier to eat. Personally,
>> I detest giardiniera, so mine wouldn't be as thick to begin with.
>
>
>Just may have an Eyetalian Beef today, work graciously gave us a $50 Grubhub gift card, so...
>
>I do like the giardiniera, though...

Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

[Gary]

dsi1 wrote:> Da Hawaiians like to put ketchup on eggs.

So does at least one Virginia Beachian - me too!

With 3-4 scrambled eggs, I'll eat about 2/3 with S&P only.
The last 1/3 is mixed with a little ketchup. yum

Also, whenever I make fried egg sandwiches, I always make two.

- 4 slices of buttered toast
- 2-3 over easy eggs for 2 sandwiches
- S&P and 1/2 slice of cheese on each

First one I eat just like that. yum
The second one, I add ketchup. also yum
I call the 2nd one, "dessert."

Both are so delicious in their own way.

It's been awhile. That sounds like a good lunch for today. :)

[Bryan Simmons]

My family ate egg sandwiches with ketchup. I did too, a few
times until I realized that w/o the ketchup, they weren't repulsive.

--Bryan

[Sheldon Martin]

On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 20:07:27 -0800 (PST), dsi1
<dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

winners?
Should be called Ukelele Losers
Redondo Beach is a town in SoCal... been there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redondo_Beach,_California
Never order Frankfurters in SoCal... best are Der Wienerschnitzles.
YUCK!

[Bryan Simmons]

Hot dogs are the ultimate mystery meat.

--Bryan

[bruce bowser]

On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 7:55:17 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 1/14/2022 15:37, fos wrote:
> > On 2022-01-14, bruce bowser<bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 9:09:01 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> >>> fos wrote:
> >>>> [*] the best horseradish mustard;
> >>>> https://www.webersmustard.com/product/horseradish-mustard
> >>> OK, I'll give that a try someday if I ever see it. I do like hot mustards.
> >
> >> In Pittsburgh and Chicago, they load down hotdogs with almost anything.
> >
> > i recently learned that in Chicago ketchup on hot dogs is considered
> > sacrilegious and that the people there are quite passionate about it.
> >

> > i've driven through Chicago several times on the way out west and
> > stopped there only to get deep dish pizzas. once this pandemic starts
> > waning and we hit the road to the west again, i can't wait to stop at
> > a dog house in Chicago, order some hot hot dogs, then proceed to take
> > several packets of ketchup out of my pocket to put on the dogs. the
> > more busy the place is, the more fun it will be.
> >
> > real life trolling is far superior to trolling on Usenet. :D

> I've heard this mentioned several times growing up, about the
> "seriousness" of Chicago hot dogs. It would be more fun, rather than
> packets, to insist for ketchup at the hot dog stand, and border-line
> make a scene if they are difficult about it... Lol

I remember that Pittsburgh hot dogs had cole slaw added to them, while Chicago hot dogs had something like one or two halfs of a tomato slice added. With a lot of other stuff.

[Dave Smith]

Separator meat.

[Dave Smith]

Uhm, Dit is mijn kikker. Ghe Ghe Ghe.

[Dave Smith]

On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 08:17:30 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser

This is NOT my frogger.

[Michael Trew]

You might be right. Primanti brothers is a famous sandwich shop here...
basically a step up from fast food -- and 2 steps up in price. They add
coleslaw and fries to every sandwich -- "Pittsburgh style".

[Michael Trew]

My grandmother always made "pancake egg" sandwiches. Basically a
scrambled fried egg on bread, with mayonnaise. I usually preferred it
with ketchup. I think that actually does sound like a good lunch today!

[Bryan Simmons]

If they do that, they are a step *down* from fast food.

--Bryan

[dsi1]

Redondo is the family name of the guy that started the company. It's Portuguese, I assume. The Portuguese are into meats, and vintage cars.

[Dave Smith]

On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 11:07:41 -0800 (PST), dsi1

All of them. It has been so decided by an American.

[Dave Smith]

Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe.

[dsi1]

Peculiar, ain't it?

[Dave Smith]

On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 18:22:23 -0800 (PST), dsi1

Ghe? Can you go into more detail? I don't get it

[Dave Smith]

This is NOT my frogger.

[Dave Smith]

[Michael Trew]

I meant that they make the food fresh, and not whatever frozen package
crap that McDonalds sells. Think a chain restaurant like Chili's, as
opposed to a McDonalds.

I don't know why "Pittsburgh style" sandwiches are so popular here. I
don't mind the coleslaw, when it's a vinegar base, on the sandwich...
but I think that fries on a sandwich are stupid (also very dry).

[Dave Smith]

Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is NOT my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe
:)))))))))))

[Gary]

Michael Trew wrote:
> but I think that fries on a sandwich are stupid (also very dry).

I've never put fries or chips on a good sandwich. I prefer them on the side.

[Cindy Hamilton]

I never say never.

I occasionally like chips on a tuna salad sandwich, or on sloppy joes.

Fries, I agree, are a little too much.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bryan Simmons]

A hamburger at Chili's is probablyly made from boxed frozen
patties. McD's Quarter Pounder is made from fresh, never
frozen patties.

>
> I don't know why "Pittsburgh style" sandwiches are so popular here. I
> don't mind the coleslaw, when it's a vinegar base, on the sandwich...
> but I think that fries on a sandwich are stupid (also very dry).
>

Putting coleslaw on a sandwich is disgusting.

--Bryan

[Sheldon Martin]

I like potato chips on a tuna salad sandwich, adds a salty crunch.

[dsi1]

We ate at a Chinese restaurant last night. My granddaughter put some rice in a bun and ate it. We thought that was pretty funny.

[dsi1]

I've made a sandwich out of canned corned beef and cabbage. It was pretty delightful.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/HZHjEEz3FtQhbUZs8