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A Moose in Love

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Mar 16, 2019, 4:02:38 PM3/16/19
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by far the best schnitzel i ever had was in vienna austria. the veal there must be different, because i've never had a schnitzel as good.
the worst was in a country inn not too far from kitchener on. they are known for their great pork hocks, but i chose the wiener schnitzel because i wasn't that hungry. on the menu it was advertised that the schnitzel was veal. oh. that's nice. what i got was a preformed patty which came in frozen(i know these things) and deep fried. what a disappointment. a fresh pork or chicken schnitzel would have been so much better.
the 'classic' way to make a schnitzel is to not deep fry it. it is pan fried in butter and veggie oil. most places, even european places tend to deep fry.

dsi1

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Mar 16, 2019, 4:22:51 PM3/16/19
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I don't wish to upset you or anything but, in America, some people (most?) think that a wiener schnitzel is a hot dog. My profuse apologies to, well, the entire world.

https://www.wienerschnitzel.com/

Cindy Hamilton

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Mar 16, 2019, 4:45:08 PM3/16/19
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Probably not most. That chain is limited to the Southwest.

I'm not a schnitzel fan, but this is my favorite German restaurant:

https://www.metzgers.net/

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton

A Moose in Love

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Mar 16, 2019, 4:56:57 PM3/16/19
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On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 4:22:51 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
we call hot dogs here wieners some times. a wiener is just something or someone from vienna(wien) a frankfurter from frankfurt, a hamburger from...

Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl

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Mar 16, 2019, 5:16:44 PM3/16/19
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OMG I have never in my life had a wiener or a schnitzel... Meat is
murder, even if it tastes super duper delicious and give me the
protein and nutrients that a growing boy like myself needs. Meat is
still murder, but hey if you give me some bacon I just may look the
other way

--

____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____

penm...@aol.com

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On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 dsi1 wrote:
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>I don't wish to upset you or anything but, in America, some people (most?) think that a wiener schnitzel is a hot dog.

Here we go with the ukeleli MOST people... what a brainless twit.

A Moose in Love

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Mar 16, 2019, 5:23:08 PM3/16/19
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they've got a good solid menu.

the twin goblets or now it's called the two goblets is pretty good here. it's best described as a european restaurant. we also had the berlin restaurant(kitchener was called berlin at one time; up until 1916), but it lasted only about 2 years.

http://twogoblets.com/

A Moose in Love

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Mar 16, 2019, 5:25:33 PM3/16/19
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when you plow fields and kill moles, worms, snakes etc. what is that? even if you only eat vegan. animals are killed while tending crops. what do you do if a wild hog(s)invades your cornfields? out comes the rifle.

Bruce

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Ophelia

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"dsi1" wrote in message
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I have had wienerschnitzel in Germany and I also make it myself, but it
isn't a hot dog:)

It is a thin slice of meat, I use pork, bread crumbed and fried. I think in
Germany they use veal.

jmcquown

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Mar 16, 2019, 6:37:50 PM3/16/19
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Beats me where he comes up with these things.

Jill

jmcquown

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Mar 16, 2019, 6:47:27 PM3/16/19
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I doubt anything he says about what "Americans" think. No doubt he
Googled and found this as the first hit:

https://www.wienerschnitzel.com/

Doesn't make it so!

It's traditionally made with veal. Pork and chicken work well, too.

https://www.thespruceeats.com/wiener-schnitzel-recipe-1447089

Jill

Bruce

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Mar 16, 2019, 8:12:29 PM3/16/19
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On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 18:47:16 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:
And don't forget, when you say goodbye to a German:
"Aufwienerschnitzel!" Which basically means "until the next time we'll
have dinner together".

dsi1

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Mar 16, 2019, 8:29:20 PM3/16/19
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Beats me why a restaurant on the mainland would call itself "Weinerschnitzel" and not serve any cutlets. The ways of the white man are mysterious. I think they are insane.

jome...@gmail.com

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Mar 16, 2019, 8:32:20 PM3/16/19
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My best ever was in Slovenia. It was served with mashed potatoes that had fried onions mixed in. I tried to duplicate the potato /onion dish but was not able to.

dsi1

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Mar 16, 2019, 8:32:44 PM3/16/19
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I can see your point. I feel badly for killing animals, dismembering them, and then eating their flesh. The good news is that in the future we won't have to do this. My guess is that within 50 years, eating animal flesh will be considered taboo.

penm...@aol.com

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Mar 16, 2019, 8:37:47 PM3/16/19
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There are fast food joints in California called "Der
Weinerschnitzel",,, the most awful dawgs on der planet.
https://www.wienerschnitzel.com/


Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl

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Mar 16, 2019, 8:50:00 PM3/16/19
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well there is a possibility that I may be around then... If I am, fuck
a taboo,, Bacon is GOOD!!!

dsi1

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Mar 16, 2019, 8:52:25 PM3/16/19
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I have had meat cutlets but veal cutlets on this rock are rather rare. OTOH, Japan style chicken cutlets are quite popular in Hawaii. I have made pork cutlets but have never called it a wienerschnitzel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucj2TcD8Bm0

Bruce

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Mar 16, 2019, 9:00:19 PM3/16/19
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On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 17:29:16 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
Ignorant chain owners making fast food for an ignorant public. It's
Wienerschnitzel, by the way.

Bruce

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Mar 16, 2019, 9:01:36 PM3/16/19
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Wienerschnitzel, not Weinerschnitzel. Why is this so hard? Nobody
would write restuarant or barbeceu.

Bruce

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Yes, maybe in 50, maybe in 100 years it will be looked down upon in
disgust. Like an ancient, barbaric practice.

jmcquown

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Beats me why dsi1 thinks the first thing that pops up in a Google search
is gospel for what "Americans" on the mainland consider wiener schitzel.
What's up with "the ways of the white man"? Big Kahuna speaks? ;)

> There are fast food joints in California called "Der
> Weinerschnitzel",
>
California is not representative of "America" any more than the Hawaiian
Islands are. Regardless, when did you or any of us mainlander's ever
confuse wiener schnitzel with a hot dog?!

Jill

Hank Rogers

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Mar 16, 2019, 9:14:20 PM3/16/19
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George Jetson ate bacon.


Bruce

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Mar 16, 2019, 9:36:41 PM3/16/19
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On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 21:08:55 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:
Just because the well informed citizens of RFC know the difference,
doesn't mean the populace does.

Dave Smith

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Mar 16, 2019, 10:21:19 PM3/16/19
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It's amazing living on a rock in the middle of the Pacific leads him to
assume that people on the mainland weinershnitzel with weiners. Maybe
there are some people with the IQ and ignorance of a Hawaiian who don't
know the difference. Maybe there is a difference in regional
pronunciation. Around here hot dogs are wienrs with a W, but
Weinerschnitzel starts with a V sound.

penm...@aol.com

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Mar 16, 2019, 10:34:32 PM3/16/19
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Krouts say Vieners... same as they say Volks Vagon... Ach!

penm...@aol.com

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Mar 16, 2019, 10:39:37 PM3/16/19
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Subject should be "best und vurst viener schnitzel." Ach!

On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 22:21:15 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Bruce

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On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 22:21:15 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2019-03-16 9:08 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 3/16/2019 8:37 PM, penm...@aol.com wrote:
>
>>
>>> There are fast food joints in California called "Der
>>> Weinerschnitzel",
>>>
>> California is not representative of "America" any more than the Hawaiian
>> Islands are.  Regardless, when did you or any of us mainlander's ever
>> confuse wiener schnitzel with a hot dog?!
>
>It's amazing living on a rock in the middle of the Pacific leads him to
>assume that people on the mainland weinershnitzel

wienerschnitzel

>with weiners. Maybe
>there are some people with the IQ and ignorance of a Hawaiian who don't
>know the difference. Maybe there is a difference in regional
>pronunciation. Around here hot dogs are wienrs with a W, but
>Weinerschnitzel

Wienerschnitzel

And you call someone else ignorant?

dsi1

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Mar 17, 2019, 12:42:30 AM3/17/19
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Evidently, this Hawaiian knows more about North American culture than the North Americans. It seems that there are people there that are unaware of a restaurant franchise called "Wienerschnitzel" and that one of the things that you can't get there are wiener schnitzels. Inexplicably, you can get hot dogs. The ways of the white man are mysterious.

There are people on the mainland that don't know the cultural significance of green beer or what it means. They think that the beer in Hawaii is green. My guess is that those culturally deprived, isolated souls, would be alarmed by a sight such as this:

https://i.imgur.com/4Cwna.jpg

Ophelia

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"jmcquown" wrote in message news:%1fjE.128195$YR5....@fx45.iad...
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That is how I make mine.

Ophelia

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"dsi1" wrote in message
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lol

Sanne

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Mar 17, 2019, 7:09:49 AM3/17/19
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Bullshit.

Cindy Hamilton

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Mar 17, 2019, 8:27:31 AM3/17/19
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It's a play on words.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton

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Mar 17, 2019, 8:30:12 AM3/17/19
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Really? You don't think people would misspell words in their
own language? I guess we don't need spellcheckers or proofreaders
anymore.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton

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No, they say "folks vagon".

Don't you know any Yiddish? The orthography is almost identical.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton

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Mar 17, 2019, 8:35:16 AM3/17/19
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On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 12:42:30 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 4:21:19 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2019-03-16 9:08 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > > On 3/16/2019 8:37 PM, penm...@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >> There are fast food joints in California called "Der
> > >> Weinerschnitzel",
> > >>
> > > California is not representative of "America" any more than the Hawaiian
> > > Islands are.  Regardless, when did you or any of us mainlander's ever
> > > confuse wiener schnitzel with a hot dog?!
> >
> > It's amazing living on a rock in the middle of the Pacific leads him to
> > assume that people on the mainland weinershnitzel with weiners. Maybe
> > there are some people with the IQ and ignorance of a Hawaiian who don't
> > know the difference. Maybe there is a difference in regional
> > pronunciation. Around here hot dogs are wienrs with a W, but
> > Weinerschnitzel starts with a V sound.
>
> Evidently, this Hawaiian knows more about North American culture than the North Americans. It seems that there are people there that are unaware of a restaurant franchise called "Wienerschnitzel" and that one of the things that you can't get there are wiener schnitzels.

It's because the franchise is mainly in the Southwest. Those of us
who live outside the Southwest are blissfully ignorant of its existence.

> Inexplicably, you can get hot dogs. The ways of the white man are mysterious.

It's marketing. Even a person with Asperger's Syndrome can figure
that out.

> There are people on the mainland that don't know the cultural significance of green beer or what it means. They think that the beer in Hawaii is green. My guess is that those culturally deprived, isolated souls, would be alarmed by a sight such as this:

Lots of people have never encountered cheap American pisswater dyed green.
And they're the better for it.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton

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Mar 17, 2019, 8:37:18 AM3/17/19
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Bruce was making a joke. He's from the Netherlands; I imagine he
understands enough German to make that joke.

Cindy Hamilton

Janet

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In article <82061bfa-e1f2-43e2...@googlegroups.com>,
angelica...@yahoo.com says...
>
> On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 9:01:36 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 20:37:43 -0400, penm...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > >There are fast food joints in California called "Der
> > >Weinerschnitzel",,, the most awful dawgs on der planet.
> > >https://www.wienerschnitzel.com/
> >
> > Wienerschnitzel, not Weinerschnitzel. Why is this so hard? Nobody
> > would write restuarant or barbeceu.
>
> Really? You don't think people would misspell words in their
> own language?

I doubt a first-language German speaker would.

Wein and wien are not homophones, they rhyme with mine and mean.


Janet UK

Cindy Hamilton

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I know. And they mean, respectively, wine and Vienna.

But after years on Usenet, can you doubt that there are
Americans who could misspell "restaurant" or "barbecue"?
I've seen it myself.

Cindy Hamilton

Janet

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In article <db33e858-11b9-4935...@googlegroups.com>,
angelica...@yahoo.com says...
>
> On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 9:04:44 AM UTC-4, Janet wrote:
> > In article <82061bfa-e1f2-43e2...@googlegroups.com>,
> > angelica...@yahoo.com says...
> > >
> > > On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 9:01:36 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 20:37:43 -0400, penm...@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > >There are fast food joints in California called "Der
> > > > >Weinerschnitzel",,, the most awful dawgs on der planet.
> > > > >https://www.wienerschnitzel.com/
> > > >
> > > > Wienerschnitzel, not Weinerschnitzel. Why is this so hard? Nobody
> > > > would write restuarant or barbeceu.
> > >
> > > Really? You don't think people would misspell words in their
> > > own language?
> >
> > I doubt a first-language German speaker would.
> >
> > Wein and wien are not homophones, they rhyme with mine and mean.
>
> I know. And they mean, respectively, wine and Vienna.

Not to some Americans, apparently.

> But after years on Usenet, can you doubt that there are
> Americans who could misspell "restaurant" or "barbecue"?

No. Or those old favourites "ala" rfc, "quisine" and "bullion".


Janet UK



Ophelia

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"dsi1" wrote in message
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Understood. It is probably a European thing:)

Recipe for your Japan style chicken cutlets please?


A Moose in Love

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the term wiener schnitzel means a cutlet done Viennese style. basically it's a breaded veal cutlet pounded thin and breaded and fried. you can of course use other meats such as chick/pork, although to call it wiener schnitzel in austria is not allowed(if not made from veal). it can be called schnitzel wiener art.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiener_schnitzel



> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucj2TcD8Bm0
>
> ==
>
> Understood. It is probably a European thing:)
>
> Recipe for your Japan style chicken cutlets please?

ditto

Ophelia

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"A Moose in Love" wrote in message
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:))


Cindy Hamilton

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On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 9:26:27 AM UTC-4, Janet wrote:
> In article <db33e858-11b9-4935...@googlegroups.com>,
> angelica...@yahoo.com says...
> >
> > On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 9:04:44 AM UTC-4, Janet wrote:
> > > In article <82061bfa-e1f2-43e2...@googlegroups.com>,
> > > angelica...@yahoo.com says...
> > > >
> > > > On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 9:01:36 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 20:37:43 -0400, penm...@aol.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > >There are fast food joints in California called "Der
> > > > > >Weinerschnitzel",,, the most awful dawgs on der planet.
> > > > > >https://www.wienerschnitzel.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > Wienerschnitzel, not Weinerschnitzel. Why is this so hard? Nobody
> > > > > would write restuarant or barbeceu.
> > > >
> > > > Really? You don't think people would misspell words in their
> > > > own language?
> > >
> > > I doubt a first-language German speaker would.
> > >
> > > Wein and wien are not homophones, they rhyme with mine and mean.
> >
> > I know. And they mean, respectively, wine and Vienna.
>
> Not to some Americans, apparently.

I'm sure millions of people all over the world misspell words in
foreign languages that they do not speak. I get a chuckle every
time I read the menu in a Chinese restaurant.

>
> > But after years on Usenet, can you doubt that there are
> > Americans who could misspell "restaurant" or "barbecue"?
>
> No. Or those old favourites "ala" rfc, "quisine" and "bullion".

I used to think that spelling should be easy for everybody. Each
word has a pattern, and I can easily see if the pattern is incorrect.

Thirty years with a very intelligent dyslexic has taught me to
accept that it's sometimes not a person's fault if they cannot
spell or if they make other mistakes with language.

It doesn't keep me from taking the mickey out of someone on Usenet,
though. That's pretty much always been the second or third purpose
of Usenet.

Cindy Hamilton

Dave Smith

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On 2019-03-17 10:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> I'm sure millions of people all over the world misspell words in
> foreign languages that they do not speak. I get a chuckle every
> time I read the menu in a Chinese restaurant.


I had to chuckle at some of the misspellings on menus I saw the first
time I went to Europe. In Germany and in France I saw soup spelled soap.
At least they tried.



penm...@aol.com

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On Sun, 17 Mar 2019 06:08:02 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 9:04:44 AM UTC-4, Janet wrote:
>> In article <82061bfa-e1f2-43e2...@googlegroups.com>,
>> angelica...@yahoo.com says...
>> >
>> > On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 9:01:36 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> > > On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 20:37:43 -0400, penm...@aol.com wrote:
>> >
>> > > >There are fast food joints in California called "Der
>> > > >Weinerschnitzel",,, the most awful dawgs on der planet.
>> > > >https://www.wienerschnitzel.com/
>> > >
>> > > Wienerschnitzel, not Weinerschnitzel. Why is this so hard?

Obviously I was too lazy to retype from the URL I posted... why is
that so difficult for your picayune pea brain. Even the stoopid
search engine knew 'zactly what I meant.
I ate at that joint in 1965, dawg onna bun was 18в, packets of musturd
were 2в per. I choked down half the dawg and never returned. I'm
surprised that they are still in business.
Back then it was named "Der Wienerstzel", and they only sold dawgs and
cola, I see now they have expanded their menu, nothing looks edible...
they'd never make in in NYC. Maybe they dropped the "Der" to be PC,
that Der might be construed as a kraut slur.

Recently I discovered these and have been buying them for going on two
years:
https://www.kayem.com/our-products/
I like this variety best:
https://www.kayem.com/products/old-tyme-natural-casing-beef-franks-2lbs/

penm...@aol.com

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On Sun, 17 Mar 2019 07:14:23 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 9:26:27 AM UTC-4, Janet wrote:
>> In article <db33e858-11b9-4935...@googlegroups.com>,
>> angelica...@yahoo.com says...
>> >
>> > On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 9:04:44 AM UTC-4, Janet wrote:
>> > > In article <82061bfa-e1f2-43e2...@googlegroups.com>,
>> > > angelica...@yahoo.com says...
>> > > >
>> > > > On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 9:01:36 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> > > > > On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 20:37:43 -0400, penm...@aol.com wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > >There are fast food joints in California called "Der
>> > > > > >Weinerschnitzel",,, the most awful dawgs on der planet.
>> > > > > >https://www.wienerschnitzel.com/
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Wienerschnitzel, not Weinerschnitzel. Why is this so hard? Nobody
>> > > > > would write restuarant or barbeceu.
>> > > >
>> > > > Really? You don't think people would misspell words in their
>> > > > own language?
>> > >
>> > > I doubt a first-language German speaker would.
>> > >
>> > > Wein and wien are not homophones, they rhyme with mine and mean.
>> >
>> > I know. And they mean, respectively, wine and Vienna.
>>
>> Not to some Americans, apparently.
>
>I'm sure millions of people all over the world misspell words in
>foreign languages that they do not speak. I get a chuckle every
>time I read the menu in a Chinese restaurant.

An American Chinese restaurant menu is NOT Chinese... at best they are
fercocktah transliterations... and each restaurant spells the dishes
somewhat differently in English. Chinese has no alphabet... their
spoken language relies heavily on intonations.

penm...@aol.com

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I worked with a lot of krauts, they all pronouned the VW Volks Vagon
ow Wolks Vagon, none said Folks.

A Moose in Love

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the 'volks' part is pronounced a bit harder than the wagon. it's an 'f' versus a soft 'v'.

penm...@aol.com

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It's only on US cooking shows that they pound meat... the veal
tradionally used is from the rear leg and is *sliced thin*, it's much
too expensive to destroy by pounding.... it's the US celebrity chefs
who have no knife skills. Your web site says a thin "slice" of veal.

Gary

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Ophelia wrote:
>
> Recipe for your Japan style chicken cutlets please?

Pound chicken flat, flour and fry in oil.
Use no seasoning at all.
Plate and eat.

Note: this is not official but what will be plated in Scotland.

:)

Gary

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penm...@aol.com wrote:
>
> I ate at that joint in 1965, dawg onna bun was 18в, packets of musturd
> were 2в per. I choked down half the dawg and never returned. I'm
> surprised that they are still in business.

Still in business because they make good dogs, evidently. You
just had tiad then and still do. 54 years since you "choked down
half." They are still thriving and you have no idea what they
sell or the taste now.

You do have your deluxe pot roast though. You go, boy.

Dave Smith

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On 2019-03-17 12:48 p.m., penm...@aol.com wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Mar 2019 07:14:23 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

>> I'm sure millions of people all over the world misspell words in
>> foreign languages that they do not speak. I get a chuckle every
>> time I read the menu in a Chinese restaurant.
>
> An American Chinese restaurant menu is NOT Chinese... at best they are
> fercocktah transliterations... and each restaurant spells the dishes
> somewhat differently in English. Chinese has no alphabet... their
> spoken language relies heavily on intonations.


That may be, but most communities around here don't have many Chinese
speakers so they rely on those English translations.

Dave Smith

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On 2019-03-17 12:54 p.m., penm...@aol.com wrote:

> I worked with a lot of krauts, they all pronouned the VW Volks Vagon
> ow Wolks Vagon, none said Folks.

My best friend was born in Germany. Until his father could afford a
Mercedes he always had a Volkswagon. Despite the father's heavy accent
it was still Volkswagon, with a V and a W.


dsi1

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Japan style Chicken katsu is probably the most popular dish in Hawaii. It is made with a boneless chicken thigh that is flattened slightly, dredged in flour, dipped in egg, then coated with panko, and fried. It is typically served with tonkatsu sauce or a sauce made with ketchup, Worcestershire sauce, shoyu, and other ingredients.

My uncle used to make an American diner style beef cutlet back in the early 60's for his lunchwagon. He would pound thin slices of beef into cracker crumbs. The crumbs would be in a large aluminum tray and would make a scrunching sound that was embedded in my brain and I can still remember to this day.

The Japanese meat cutlet and the American diner style cutlet had it's origins in Europe. The Japanese learned to make it from the sailors from Europe that passed through their ports. The Americans learned to make cutlets from the traditions brought over from Europe by immigrants. The Hawaiians learned to make it from the Americans and Japanese. In the end, it's all schnitzels. :)

https://www.frolichawaii.com/stories/our-top-5-chicken-katsu

Bruce

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Everything gets misspelled. But not as commonly.

Bruce

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I just saw an American who wrote "soupe do jour".

Bruce

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On Sun, 17 Mar 2019 04:09:45 -0700 (PDT), Sanne
<susanne.r...@googlemail.com> wrote:

>Am Sonntag, 17. März 2019 01:12:29 UTC+1 schrieb Bruce:
>> On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 18:47:16 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I doubt anything he says about what "Americans" think. No doubt he
>> >Googled and found this as the first hit:
>> >
>> >https://www.wienerschnitzel.com/
>> >
>> >Doesn't make it so!
>> >
>> >It's traditionally made with veal. Pork and chicken work well, too.
>> >
>> >https://www.thespruceeats.com/wiener-schnitzel-recipe-1447089
>>
>> And don't forget, when you say goodbye to a German:
>> "Aufwienerschnitzel!" Which basically means "until the next time we'll
>> have dinner together".
>
>Bullshit.

Lol, Germans aren't known for their sense of humour.

Bruce

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:)
Message has been deleted

Sanne

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Am Sonntag, 17. März 2019 20:08:39 UTC+1 schrieb Bruce:
> On Sun, 17 Mar 2019 04:09:45 -0700 (PDT), Sanne wrote:

> >> And don't forget, when you say goodbye to a German:
> >> "Aufwienerschnitzel!" Which basically means "until the next time we'll
> >> have dinner together".
> >
> >Bullshit.
>
> Lol, Germans aren't known for their sense of humour.

As long as there is some. But your "pun" just isn't funny.

A Moose in Love

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he's probably had his fill of assholes like you.

Bruce

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On Sun, 17 Mar 2019 12:10:15 -0700 (PDT), Sanne
<susanne.r...@googlemail.com> wrote:

>Am Sonntag, 17. März 2019 13:37:18 UTC+1 schrieb Cindy Hamilton:
>> On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 7:09:49 AM UTC-4, Sanne wrote:
>> > Am Sonntag, 17. März 2019 01:12:29 UTC+1 schrieb Bruce:
>>
>> > > And don't forget, when you say goodbye to a German:
>> > > "Aufwienerschnitzel!" Which basically means "until the next time we'll
>> > > have dinner together".
>> >
>> > Bullshit.
>>
>> Bruce was making a joke. He's from the Netherlands; I imagine he
>> understands enough German to make that joke.
>
>I'm German. Not even a decent play of words there.

Stuck up and serious. You represent your country well.

Bruce

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One man's trash is another man's treasure.

Bruce

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Mar 17, 2019, 3:43:07 PM3/17/19
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One sentence, two mistakes. He's a she and I'm not an asshole, but a
really nice guy.

cshenk

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Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2019-03-16 9:08 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > On 3/16/2019 8:37 PM, penm...@aol.com wrote:
>
> >
> > > There are fast food joints in California called "Der
> > > Weinerschnitzel",
> > >
> > California is not representative of "America" any more than the
> > Hawaiian Islands are.  Regardless, when did you or any of us
> > mainlander's ever confuse wiener schnitzel with a hot dog?!
>
> It's amazing living on a rock in the middle of the Pacific leads him
> to assume that people on the mainland weinershnitzel with weiners.
> Maybe there are some people with the IQ and ignorance of a Hawaiian
> who don't know the difference. Maybe there is a difference in
> regional pronunciation. Around here hot dogs are wienrs with a W, but
> Weinerschnitzel starts with a V sound.

I'm not up on cooking it but Weinerschnitzel is veal. A sort of
breaded type right? Pounded flat.

cshenk

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Mar 17, 2019, 4:11:08 PM3/17/19
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Have fun with me then. Dyslexics Untie! To this day, I have trouble
with restaraunt. <--- hope that is right. Gasp though, probably not.

cshenk

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Um, sorry Ophelia, but an odd website doesn't make a country get that
confused. What you tripped over was Kielbasa which eastern USA knows
well and western USA (little to no Germanic influx) now shows only by a
mis-named cheap hot dog stand that you can see on the web.

Ophelia

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"dsi1" wrote in message
news:e676f8a6-9ad3-4f72...@googlegroups.com...

> Recipe for your Japan style chicken cutlets please?

Japan style Chicken katsu is probably the most popular dish in Hawaii. It is
made with a boneless chicken thigh that is flattened slightly, dredged in
flour, dipped in egg, then coated with panko, and fried. It is typically
served with tonkatsu sauce or a sauce made with ketchup, Worcestershire
sauce, shoyu, and other ingredients.

My uncle used to make an American diner style beef cutlet back in the early
60's for his lunchwagon. He would pound thin slices of beef into cracker
crumbs. The crumbs would be in a large aluminum tray and would make a
scrunching sound that was embedded in my brain and I can still remember to
this day.

The Japanese meat cutlet and the American diner style cutlet had it's
origins in Europe. The Japanese learned to make it from the sailors from
Europe that passed through their ports. The Americans learned to make
cutlets from the traditions brought over from Europe by immigrants. The
Hawaiians learned to make it from the Americans and Japanese. In the end,
it's all schnitzels. :)

https://www.frolichawaii.com/stories/our-top-5-chicken-katsu

==

Thank looks lovely:)) Katsu sauce please? :))

Dave Smith

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Mar 17, 2019, 4:32:12 PM3/17/19
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My best friend was German and I spent a lot of time at his house. There
was a lot of laughter there.
>

Ophelia

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"Sanne" wrote in message
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My grandkids laughed and yes, they are German:)


Ophelia

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"cshenk" wrote in message
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If you are talking about this:

> https://www.wienerschnitzel.com/ ??

I didn't post it:) As for knowing what wienerschnitzel is, I Have family in
Germany and visit often:)

As it happens my grands are visiting just now so my Grandson is having a bit
of a giggle about all this ;))




Dave Smith

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Mar 17, 2019, 4:41:21 PM3/17/19
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On 2019-03-17 4:00 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>

>> It's amazing living on a rock in the middle of the Pacific leads him
>> to assume that people on the mainland weinershnitzel with weiners.
>> Maybe there are some people with the IQ and ignorance of a Hawaiian
>> who don't know the difference. Maybe there is a difference in
>> regional pronunciation. Around here hot dogs are wienrs with a W, but
>> Weinerschnitzel starts with a V sound.
>
> I'm not up on cooking it but Weinerschnitzel is veal. A sort of
> breaded type right? Pounded flat.
>

Sheldon says the real deal is not pounded, though every recipe I have
seen calls for pounding. At any rate, it was about the pronunciation,
saying it as a V for the schnitzel and as a W for the hot dog wiener.
And FWIW, in German, Vienna is Wien.

A Moose in Love

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one mistake maybe. not two.

Bruce

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On Sun, 17 Mar 2019 20:35:26 -0000, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>
wrote:
To be honest, I only really know one German and he has a good sense of
humour.

Bruce

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On Sun, 17 Mar 2019 13:49:11 -0700 (PDT), A Moose in Love
Ok, maybe she's a gender changer.

Ophelia

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"Bruce" wrote in message news:ruct8e9j0qflchv24...@4ax.com...
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I don't know about German humour and my grands are part English but ... he
laughed anyway:))


dsi1

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I don't usually make chicken katsu or katsu sauce. Almost every restaurant in this burg serves chicken katsu so I use the sauce they make. At home, I use Bull-Dog brand tonkatsu sauce. You might have a hard time finding tonkatsu sauce in the UK so here's what I'd do if I had to. Just mix everything up.

1/2 cup ketchup
1 T Worcestershire sauce
1 teaspoon dark soy sauce


Ophelia

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"dsi1" wrote in message
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---

Thanks very much:) At what point do you add it?

Bruce

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On Sun, 17 Mar 2019 21:03:51 -0000, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Good :)

Sanne

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Am Sonntag, 17. März 2019 20:41:42 UTC+1 schrieb Bruce:
> On Sun, 17 Mar 2019 12:10:15 -0700 (PDT), Sanne wrote:
>
> >Am Sonntag, 17. März 2019 13:37:18 UTC+1 schrieb Cindy Hamilton:
> >> On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 7:09:49 AM UTC-4, Sanne wrote:
> >> > Am Sonntag, 17. März 2019 01:12:29 UTC+1 schrieb Bruce:
> >>
> >> > > And don't forget, when you say goodbye to a German:
> >> > > "Aufwienerschnitzel!" Which basically means "until the next time we'll
> >> > > have dinner together".
> >> >
> >> > Bullshit.
> >>
> >> Bruce was making a joke. He's from the Netherlands; I imagine he
> >> understands enough German to make that joke.
> >
> >I'm German. Not even a decent play of words there.
>
> Stuck up and serious. You represent your country well.

Wow. I didn't know I'm elected German Bundeskanzler now.

dsi1

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I doubt the average American knows what a wiener schnitzel is unless they have ties to Germany. My wife knows what they are - she used to live in Germany and her mom used to make wiener schnitzel. As far as Germany goes, my daddy likes the Germans. He says they're a lot more friendly than the Swedes, who tend to be sourpusses. Ha ha, well he ought to know - he married a Swede.

Sistah Robi Kahakalau was born and raised in Germany but she somehow became an associate professor of Hawaiian language/studies and a much beloved Hawaiian singer. That's the way it is on this rock - everything is all mixed up. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIvSd2hDPTI

Bruce

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Herzlichen Glückwunsch, Frau Bundeskanzler!

dsi1

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You can drizzle it on the cutlet or dip. I'm mostly a dipper. The cutlet is served cut up which allows the diner to eat it with chopsticks. My guess is that wiener schnitzel is not served cut up - nor is it eaten with chopsticks. :)

Bruce

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On Sun, 17 Mar 2019 14:53:17 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
<dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 10:35:39 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "cshenk" wrote in message
>> news:qNSdnR1nedX_MBPB...@giganews.com...
>>
>> Um, sorry Ophelia, but an odd website doesn't make a country get that
>> confused. What you tripped over was Kielbasa which eastern USA knows
>> well and western USA (little to no Germanic influx) now shows only by a
>> mis-named cheap hot dog stand that you can see on the web.
>> ==
>>
>> If you are talking about this:
>>
>> > https://www.wienerschnitzel.com/ ??
>>
>> I didn't post it:) As for knowing what wienerschnitzel is, I Have family in
>> Germany and visit often:)
>>
>> As it happens my grands are visiting just now so my Grandson is having a bit
>> of a giggle about all this ;))
>
>I doubt the average American knows what a wiener schnitzel is unless they have ties to Germany.

Australians call it a schnitty and it's popular pub food. "Tuesday
Night, Schnitty Night!"

Sanne

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Am Sonntag, 17. März 2019 22:54:12 UTC+1 schrieb Bruce:
Finally -some decent German!

Bruce

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lol

Dave Smith

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Mar 17, 2019, 6:27:54 PM3/17/19
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On 2019-03-17 5:53 p.m., dsi1 wrote:

> I doubt the average American knows what a wiener schnitzel is unless
> they have ties to Germany. My wife knows what they are - she used to
> live in Germany and her mom used to make wiener schnitzel. As far as
> Germany goes, my daddy likes the Germans. He says they're a lot more
> friendly than the Swedes, who tend to be sourpusses. Ha ha, well he
> ought to know - he married a Swede.

While you are American, I am close to the US than you are, and I am
doubting that you are correct about there. There is no doubt that they
are astounding levels of ignorance in the country and there are likely
pockets of recent immigrants and some native born Americans who may not
be familiar with it. It would be my guess that the average American
would be familiar with Wienerschnitizel. I might suggest that they know
it is made with veal, and that they assume that it would be veal. They
might be surprised to learn that most schnitzel is actually pork.




>
> Sistah Robi Kahakalau was born and raised in Germany but she somehow
> became an associate professor of Hawaiian language/studies and a much
> beloved Hawaiian singer. That's the way it is on this rock -
> everything is all mixed up. :)
>

Everything on that island is mixed up? That might explain some of claims
you make here.

Bruce

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On Sun, 17 Mar 2019 18:29:51 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2019-03-17 5:53 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>
>> I doubt the average American knows what a wiener schnitzel is unless
>> they have ties to Germany. My wife knows what they are - she used to
>> live in Germany and her mom used to make wiener schnitzel. As far as
>> Germany goes, my daddy likes the Germans. He says they're a lot more
>> friendly than the Swedes, who tend to be sourpusses. Ha ha, well he
>> ought to know - he married a Swede.
>
>While you are American, I am close to the US than you are

He is IN the US.

>, and I am
>doubting that you are correct about there. There is no doubt that they
>are astounding levels of ignorance in the country and there are likely
>pockets of recent immigrants and some native born Americans who may not
>be familiar with it. It would be my guess that the average American
>would be familiar with Wienerschnitizel.

Wienerschnitzel! What is a schnitizel?

>I might suggest that they know
>it is made with veal, and that they assume that it would be veal. They
>might be surprised to learn that most schnitzel is actually pork.
>
>> Sistah Robi Kahakalau was born and raised in Germany but she somehow
>> became an associate professor of Hawaiian language/studies and a much
>> beloved Hawaiian singer. That's the way it is on this rock -
>> everything is all mixed up. :)
>>
>Everything on that island is mixed up? That might explain some of claims
>you make here.

Your writing is deteriorating. Let's hope you just switched to a new
mobile phone.

dsi1

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On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 12:27:54 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-03-17 5:53 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>
> > I doubt the average American knows what a wiener schnitzel is unless
> > they have ties to Germany. My wife knows what they are - she used to
> > live in Germany and her mom used to make wiener schnitzel. As far as
> > Germany goes, my daddy likes the Germans. He says they're a lot more
> > friendly than the Swedes, who tend to be sourpusses. Ha ha, well he
> > ought to know - he married a Swede.
>
> While you are American, I am close to the US than you are, and I am
> doubting that you are correct about there. There is no doubt that they
> are astounding levels of ignorance in the country and there are likely
> pockets of recent immigrants and some native born Americans who may not
> be familiar with it. It would be my guess that the average American
> would be familiar with Wienerschnitizel. I might suggest that they know
> it is made with veal, and that they assume that it would be veal. They
> might be surprised to learn that most schnitzel is actually pork.
>

Americans certainly know what wiener schnitzels are. They do not call it "wiener schnitzels" they call it pork cutlet or beef cutlet or chicken cutlet or even veal cutlet. American mostly know "Wienerschnitzel" as place that serves hot dogs and other non-trendy greasy foods. My suggestion is that you leave your burg immediately and head down South so you can find out for yourself.

Perhaps you could open your very own Wienerschnitzel in your little town and sell veal cutlets instead of hot dogs to your people. I must warn you that corporate ain't going to appreciate that! :)

https://franchise.wienerschnitzel.com/franchising-why-us

>
>
> >
> > Sistah Robi Kahakalau was born and raised in Germany but she somehow
> > became an associate professor of Hawaiian language/studies and a much
> > beloved Hawaiian singer. That's the way it is on this rock -
> > everything is all mixed up. :)
> >
>
> Everything on that island is mixed up? That might explain some of claims
> you make here.

I see you consider yourself an expert on other people's country. I can't accept that. Sorry.

cshenk

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Mar 17, 2019, 8:14:20 PM3/17/19
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Either way, it's silly. Apparently if you goggle mainland you get some
hot dog place and think we all think that flat pounded and breaded
(known as chicken fried steak here) is a sausage hot dog.

cshenk

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Mar 17, 2019, 8:26:47 PM3/17/19
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Not to worry. We here know the real thing. We just call it another
name that is even more confusing. We call it chicken fried steak.

cshenk

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Mar 17, 2019, 8:36:19 PM3/17/19
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Sorry but you consider yourself an expert on mainland USA and get it
wrong most of the time.

We ask what you eat. In return you tend to misreport what we eat.

cshenk

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ewww

Bruce

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That's strange. I understand that you can replace veal with another
meat without specifying that. So you still call it a wienerschnitzel,
although it isn't. But to say that a wienerschnitzel IS a chicken
fried steak is more than confusing. That's just not true.

dsi1

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On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 2:36:19 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>
> Sorry but you consider yourself an expert on mainland USA and get it
> wrong most of the time.
>
> We ask what you eat. In return you tend to misreport what we eat.

By your logic, a person can be knowledgeable about the food only in the states they've lived in. You certainly have the right to believe whatever you want.

I like to believe that Americans are pretty much experts on American foods. If you want to believe that a Canadian knows more about American foods, than an American, you can believe that too. What's it to me? Nuttin'. :)

Ophelia

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"Bruce" wrote in message news:cjgt8e921kh3cfdht...@4ax.com...
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Yuck ... lol


Ophelia

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"dsi1" wrote in message
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lol I guess:)))

Sistah Robi Kahakalau was born and raised in Germany but she somehow became
an associate professor of Hawaiian language/studies and a much beloved
Hawaiian singer. That's the way it is on this rock - everything is all mixed
up. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIvSd2hDPTI

Lovely:)

Ophelia

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Yes, it might be a wee bit difficult <g>


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