are they weally wascally?

[RichD]

Anybody here ever tried wabbit?

--
Rich

[Thomas]

Like cat. I read you would starve to death if that was all you had to eat.
Zero fat?

[Janet]

In article <e068e8e0-21e1-4ff3...@googlegroups.com>,
r_dela...@yahoo.com says...

>
> Anybody here ever tried wabbit?

Yes, it's good. Decades ago many UK butchers displayed wild game (fur
and feathers still on) hanging outside the shop. Rabbit was very cheap
so I often cooked it. One day as I skinned the rabbit the thought came
into my head "this looks like a dead baby" (I was pregnant at the time
and didn't buy rabbit again for a while).

I had a memorable "sweet and sour" rabbit dish last month in a
Sicilian/Italian restaurant. The rabbit was jointed wrapped in salt ham
and casseroled with raisins, grapes, olives wine and vinegar. I chose it
because the ingredients sounded so unlikely; it was absolutely
delicious.

Janet UK

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2022-01-26, RichD <r_dela...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Anybody here ever tried wabbit?

Sure. I ate cottontails in my youth. Taste like chicken. Jackrabbits are
visible disease vectors. They're lousy with ticks and warble worms.
Avoid those.

leo

[Dave Smith]

I have cooked a wild rabbit. It was a scrawny critter and despite
braising was tough. It was a waste of effort. The rabbit stew I had in
a restaurant was much tastier. I was thinking about buying a rabbit in
the grocery store and cooking it, but those things are outrageously
expensive these days. I see them occasionally in a nearby grocery, but
they run $35 or more, and big enough for a little more than two
servings. I can get rack of lamb or a couple nice steaks for less.


FWIW I never had rabbit as a kid. My father had been raised on a rabbit
ranch during the depression. He had eaten too many of them in his youth.

[Hank Rogers]

Plus, even if not for that, they are tough as hell. If you only
have them available to you for survival, I would try to grind them
up. Add some fat if you have any.

[Tony]

On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 16:48:07 -0600, Hank Rogers <Ha...@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my not frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe
:)))))))))))

[Ophelia]

lol

[Tony]

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 1/27/2022 5:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>
> I have cooked a wild rabbit. It was a scrawny critter and despite
> braising was tough. It was a waste of effort.  The rabbit stew I had in
> a restaurant was much tastier.  I was thinking about buying a rabbit in
> the grocery store and cooking it, but those things are outrageously
> expensive these days.  I see them occasionally in a nearby grocery, but
> they run $35 or more, and big enough for a little more than two
> servings. I can get rack of lamb or a couple nice steaks for less.
>
>
> FWIW I never had rabbit as a kid. My father had been raised on a rabbit
> ranch during the depression. He had eaten too many of them in his youth.
>
>

Expensive chicken with no wings. We had it twice in our lives but not
worth the money.

[Graham]

Mum made rabbit stew countless times during my childhood. I used to think
the rabbit kidneys a great delicacy and my parents would give them to me if
they found them in their portions.

[Hank Rogers]

Did they taste like piss?

[Tony]

Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my not frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe
:)))))))))))

[Tony]

[Tonio]

Ghe? Uhm, can you go into more detail? I don't get it

[Tonio]

[Gary]

On 1/27/2022 5:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

Such a big difference in taste (fat content) between farm raised rabbits
and duck.

My one grandfather always hunted rabbits each year to feed the large
family. He had 3 beagles, rabbit dogs to hunt with. He would kill them,
clean and skin them and soak in salt water in the downstairs fridge.

Gramma was the cook and what she got was just like from a grocery store.
She used them for many delicious casseroles.

[Hank Rogers]

Gary wrote:
> On 1/27/2022 5:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2022-01-26 12:53 p.m., Janet wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <e068e8e0-21e1-4ff3...@googlegroups.com>,
>>> r_dela...@yahoo.com says...
>>>>
>>>> Anybody here ever tried wabbit?
>>>

>>>    Yes, it's good. Decades ago many UK butchers displayedÂ

>>> wild game (fur
>>> and feathers still on) hanging outside the shop. Rabbit was very
>>> cheap
>>> so I often cooked it. One day as I skinned the rabbit the
>>> thought came
>>> into my head "this looks like a dead baby" (I was pregnant at
>>> the time
>>> and didn't buy rabbit again for a while).
>>>
>>>    I had a memorable  "sweet and sour" rabbit dish last month
>>> in a

>>> Sicilian/Italian restaurant. The rabbit was jointed wrapped inÂ

>>> salt ham
>>> and casseroled with raisins, grapes, olives wine and vinegar. I
>>> chose it
>>> because the ingredients sounded so unlikely; it was absolutely
>>> delicious.
>>>
>>
>> I have cooked a wild rabbit. It was a scrawny critter and despite
>> braising was tough. It was a waste of effort.  The rabbit stew I
>> had in a restaurant was much tastier.  I was thinking about
>> buying a rabbit in the grocery store and cooking it, but those
>> things are outrageously expensive these days.  I see them
>> occasionally in a nearby grocery, but they run $35 or more, and
>> big enough for a little more than two servings. I can get rack of
>> lamb or a couple nice steaks for less.
>>
>>
>> FWIW I never had rabbit as a kid. My father had been raised on a
>> rabbit ranch during the depression. He had eaten too many of them
>> in his youth.
>
> Such a big difference in taste (fat content) between farm raised
> rabbits and duck.
>
> My one grandfather always hunted rabbits each year to feed the
> large family. He had 3 beagles, rabbit dogs to hunt with. He would
> kill them, clean and skin them and soak in salt water in the
> downstairs fridge.
>
> Gramma was the cook and what she got was just like from a grocery
> store. She used them for many delicious casseroles.
>

I hunted with an old guy like that once. If the rabbit was still
alive he whacked their heads on his shotgun barrel. He also had an
interesting way to field gut his rabbits. He grasped them just
below the rib cage and squeezed til the guts busted out through
their asshole, then gave them a sling to empty out the abdominal
contents. I tried it myself a few times and it works, but later I
moved on to larger game and quit hunting rabbits.

[Babak]

Hank Rogers wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>> On 1/27/2022 5:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2022-01-26 12:53 p.m., Janet wrote:
>>>> In article <e068e8e0-21e1-4ff3...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>> r_dela...@yahoo.com says...
>>>>>
>>>>> Anybody here ever tried wabbit?
>>>>

>>>>    Yes, it's good. Decades ago many UK butchers displayed wild

>>>> game (fur
>>>> and feathers still on) hanging outside the shop. Rabbit was very cheap
>>>> so I often cooked it. One day as I skinned the rabbit the thought came
>>>> into my head "this looks like a dead baby" (I was pregnant at the time
>>>> and didn't buy rabbit again for a while).
>>>>

>>>>    I had a memorable  "sweet and sour" rabbit dish last month in a

>>>> Sicilian/Italian restaurant. The rabbit was jointed wrapped in salt
>>>> ham
>>>> and casseroled with raisins, grapes, olives wine and vinegar. I
>>>> chose it
>>>> because the ingredients sounded so unlikely; it was absolutely
>>>> delicious.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have cooked a wild rabbit. It was a scrawny critter and despite

>>> braising was tough. It was a waste of effort.  The rabbit stew I had
>>> in a restaurant was much tastier.  I was thinking about buying a

>>> rabbit in the grocery store and cooking it, but those things are

>>> outrageously expensive these days.  I see them occasionally in a

>>> nearby grocery, but they run $35 or more, and big enough for a little
>>> more than two servings. I can get rack of lamb or a couple nice
>>> steaks for less.
>>>
>>>
>>> FWIW I never had rabbit as a kid. My father had been raised on a
>>> rabbit ranch during the depression. He had eaten too many of them in
>>> his youth.
>>
>> Such a big difference in taste (fat content) between farm raised
>> rabbits and duck.
>>
>> My one grandfather always hunted rabbits each year to feed the large
>> family. He had 3 beagles, rabbit dogs to hunt with. He would kill
>> them, clean and skin them and soak in salt water in the downstairs
>> fridge.
>>
>> Gramma was the cook and what she got was just like from a grocery
>> store. She used them for many delicious casseroles.
>>
>
> I hunted with an old guy like that once. If the rabbit was still alive
> he whacked their heads on his shotgun barrel. He also had an interesting
> way to field gut his rabbits. He grasped them just below the rib cage
> and squeezed til the guts busted out through their asshole, then gave
> them a sling to empty out the abdominal contents. I tried it myself a
> few times and it works, but later I moved on to larger game and quit
> hunting rabbits.
>
>
>

Uhm Yes. Vote Trump. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

[Jeßus]

On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 17:38:22 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2022-01-26 12:53 p.m., Janet wrote:
>> In article <e068e8e0-21e1-4ff3...@googlegroups.com>,
>> r_dela...@yahoo.com says...
>>>
>>> Anybody here ever tried wabbit?
>>
>> Yes, it's good. Decades ago many UK butchers displayed wild game (fur
>> and feathers still on) hanging outside the shop. Rabbit was very cheap
>> so I often cooked it. One day as I skinned the rabbit the thought came
>> into my head "this looks like a dead baby" (I was pregnant at the time
>> and didn't buy rabbit again for a while).
>>
>> I had a memorable "sweet and sour" rabbit dish last month in a
>> Sicilian/Italian restaurant. The rabbit was jointed wrapped in salt ham
>> and casseroled with raisins, grapes, olives wine and vinegar. I chose it
>> because the ingredients sounded so unlikely; it was absolutely
>> delicious.
>>
>
>I have cooked a wild rabbit. It was a scrawny critter and despite
>braising was tough. It was a waste of effort. The rabbit stew I had in
>a restaurant was much tastier.

My go to recipe for rabbit is always lapin au moutarde. Wild rabbit
just needs to right kind of slow cooking, it certainly needs added fat
somewhere along the line as well.

> I was thinking about buying a rabbit in
>the grocery store and cooking it, but those things are outrageously
>expensive these days. I see them occasionally in a nearby grocery, but
>they run $35 or more, and big enough for a little more than two
>servings. I can get rack of lamb or a couple nice steaks for less.

That IS expensive. Most rabbit I see in the shops here appears to be
wild caught, average prices seem to be around AUD$25, too expensive
for what it is.

[Dave Smith]

These are farmed rabbit, so a heck of a lot bigger than a wild on.
Still, that's 3-4 times the price of a medium sized chicken that has
about three times as much meat.

[Jeßus]

On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 17:38:30 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Yeah, for sure. Unless you particularly like rabbit, I wouldn't bother
paying for it. I like it but don't go out of my way for it. We still
have plenty of wild rabbits here, for now. But I know they've released
the calici virus again in parts of Tasmania recently, so soon the
numbers will drop drastically.

[Stan]

On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 09:29:06 +1100, Jeßus <j...@j.net> wrote:

>My go to recipe for rabbit is always lapin au moutarde.

à la moutarde

[Dave Smith]

It's good, but it ain't good enough to justify that price.

We still
> have plenty of wild rabbits here, for now. But I know they've released
> the calici virus again in parts of Tasmania recently, so soon the
> numbers will drop drastically.

Yeah, I understand that the introduction of rabbits to Australia was a
big mistake.

[Jeßus]

On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 18:09:02 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Not so bad in Tasmania, for some reason... but that is only based on
my past 15 years living here. It may have been worse before. But no
question, on mainland Australia rabbits have caused massive damage in
the past.

I am still yet to eat a hare. I want to try one and we do have them
here - but you never, ever come across one when hunting. They just
seem to spontaneously appear from nowhere and you're not likely to
ever see them again.

[GM]

Hmmm...."Ghosts of Hares Past"...???

--
GM

[Jeßus]

Something like that. I only ever see them fleetingly... they're
supposed to have quite dark meat and not like rabbit.

[Dave Smith]

On 2022-01-28 6:19 p.m., Je�us wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 18:09:02 -0500, Dave Smith

> Not so bad in Tasmania, for some reason... but that is only based on
> my past 15 years living here. It may have been worse before. But no
> question, on mainland Australia rabbits have caused massive damage in
> the past.
>
> I am still yet to eat a hare. I want to try one and we do have them
> here - but you never, ever come across one when hunting. They just
> seem to spontaneously appear from nowhere and you're not likely to
> ever see them again.

I am not even sure what rabbits are the problem in Australia. Around
here we have mostly cotton tail rabbits, which are quite small. There
are also jack rabbits, which are hares. Jack rabbits are a hell of a
lot bigger than rabbits. I have only seen one jack rabbit in my life and
it left an impression on me. I was driving home from work at about 1 am
and it was running along the on the other side of the road. It was at
least ten times the size of any rabbit I had ever seen.

[Harmen]

On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 19:10:21 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Rabbits and foxes too. Brought by the English so they could continue
hunting.

[Harmen]

[RichD]

On January 26, Thomas wrote:
>> Anybody here ever tried wabbit?
>

> Like cat.

?
I'm afraid to ask -

> I read you would starve to death if that was all you had to eat.
> Zero fat?

It's a challenge to Darwin, is it not? All ecology can be explained as
the struggle for energy. The hunt must be profitable, for the food
chain to make sense.

Rabbits are quick, any predator is going to burn a lot of calories. No fat,
little meat... few calories. Who eats rabbits?

--
Rich

[Harmen]

[Hank Rogers]

And the dutch.

[Gary]

On 1/28/2022 7:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> I am not even sure why rabbits are the problem in Australia.

I've seen documentaries about rabbits (and mice) in Australia.
Get one good climate year with an abundance of food and both can breed
in huge numbers. That year or the next, both can be a swarming invasion.

[Jeßus]

On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 19:10:21 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2022-01-28 6:19 p.m., Je?us wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 18:09:02 -0500, Dave Smith
>
>> Not so bad in Tasmania, for some reason... but that is only based on
>> my past 15 years living here. It may have been worse before. But no
>> question, on mainland Australia rabbits have caused massive damage in
>> the past.
>>
>> I am still yet to eat a hare. I want to try one and we do have them
>> here - but you never, ever come across one when hunting. They just
>> seem to spontaneously appear from nowhere and you're not likely to
>> ever see them again.
>
>I am not even sure what rabbits are the problem in Australia.

Err, grey ones :) I'll have to check to see what type of bunny they
are. OK, they're 'European' rabbits:
https://www.nationalgeographic.org/article/how-european-rabbits-took-over-australia/

>Around
>here we have mostly cotton tail rabbits, which are quite small. There
>are also jack rabbits, which are hares. Jack rabbits are a hell of a
>lot bigger than rabbits. I have only seen one jack rabbit in my life and
>it left an impression on me. I was driving home from work at about 1 am
>and it was running along the on the other side of the road. It was at
>least ten times the size of any rabbit I had ever seen.

That's how you usually see them - by surprise. At least in my
experience. I know they don't burrow like rabbits. They look very
tasty to me. One day I'll get one.

[Dave Smith]

On 2022-01-29 4:30 p.m., Je�us wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 19:10:21 -0500, Dave Smith

>> I am not even sure what rabbits are the problem in Australia.
>
> Err, grey ones :) I'll have to check to see what type of bunny they
> are. OK, they're 'European' rabbits:
> https://www.nationalgeographic.org/article/how-european-rabbits-took-over-australia/

Okay, similar to our cottontails, but not the same species.

>
>> Around
>> here we have mostly cotton tail rabbits, which are quite small. There
>> are also jack rabbits, which are hares. Jack rabbits are a hell of a
>> lot bigger than rabbits. I have only seen one jack rabbit in my life and
>> it left an impression on me. I was driving home from work at about 1 am
>> and it was running along the on the other side of the road. It was at
>> least ten times the size of any rabbit I had ever seen.
>
> That's how you usually see them - by surprise. At least in my
> experience. I know they don't burrow like rabbits. They look very
> tasty to me. One day I'll get one.

Cottontails don't always burrow either. I think they would rather eat
than work hard to dig a hole. I usually find a rabbit nest in one of my
gardens every hear. I have to be careful in one spot of that garden
because they just clear out a space big enough for the babies. There
also used to be a spot under a spruce tree next to my dog kennel. My
previous dog never liked being in the kennel but he loved being tied up
on a rope that was tied to the door frame of the kennel. Several years
in a row he discovered that there was a rabbit nest within reach.

[Hank Rogers]

Dave Smith wrote:

Every spring, I usually chop up a few rabbit nests when I bush hog
the place.

[Jeßus]

On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 17:40:10 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Yes, he would have enjoyed the entertainment. Just thinking about it,
I havent seen a rabbit in our yard for months now.

[RichD]

On January 26, Janet wrote:
>> Anybody here ever tried wabbit?
>

> Yes, it's good. Decades ago many UK butchers displayed wild game (fur
> and feathers still on) hanging outside the shop. Rabbit was very cheap
> so I often cooked it.

I might try that, for curiosity. Don't know where to find whole rabbit, though.

Is it obvious and easy to skin and bone? Does it require some training?



--
Rich

[Bryan Simmons]

That reminds me of my hillbilly step-mother, who showed
me how to skin a squirrel. You cut off the head and the
feet, and then "just pull off their little jammies."

--Bryan

[Joni]

You have to be able to run really fast to catch them.

[Joni]

We Dutch have a saying about froggers like yoos, which is KILL YOURSELF
you loser. no friends no real job no money no sex and no hope for the
future. Loser. Ghe Ghe Ghe.

[Janet]

In article <9e7ec45e-e6a6-4fbc...@googlegroups.com>,
r_dela...@yahoo.com says...

>
> On January 26, Janet wrote:
> >> Anybody here ever tried wabbit?
> >
> > Yes, it's good. Decades ago many UK butchers displayed wild game (fur
> > and feathers still on) hanging outside the shop. Rabbit was very cheap
> > so I often cooked it.
>
> I might try that, for curiosity. Don't know where to find whole rabbit, though.

In UK we can buy them oven-ready from online butchers but they are no
longer dirt-cheap meat.

https://www.craftedmeats.co.uk/product/wild-rabbit-whole/

> Is it obvious and easy to skin and bone? Does it require some training?

None at all in my case. Dead easy.

I used to buy them complete except for guts (gutted by the butcher). I
cut off the head and feet, then they are really easy to skin; open a
hole get fingers in and rip it off, it peels cleanly off in one. Joint
it (either a chopper or strong kitchen scissors.)

Janet UK

[Lisa]

Uhm Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

[Dan]

[Roger]

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2022-02-07, Janet <nob...@hame.cock> wrote:
> In article <9e7ec45e-e6a6-4fbc...@googlegroups.com>,
> r_dela...@yahoo.com says...

>> Is it obvious and easy to skin and bone? Does it require some training?

> None at all in my case. Dead easy.

> I used to buy them complete except for guts (gutted by the butcher). I
> cut off the head and feet, then they are really easy to skin; open a
> hole get fingers in and rip it off, it peels cleanly off in one. Joint
> it (either a chopper or strong kitchen scissors.)

It's easy to dress a rabbit, providing one's used to that stuff. If
one's not, the thought may curl the supposed "dresser" into a ball.
It's good to know where meat comes from and how it hits the table. I
just checked. Googling "dressing a rabbit" ought to work for Rich D.
Start by cutting off their little paws. They're lucky charms!

leo

[Bill]

Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> On 2022-02-07, Janet <nob...@hame.cock> wrote:
>> In article <9e7ec45e-e6a6-4fbc...@googlegroups.com>,
>> r_dela...@yahoo.com says...
>
>>> Is it obvious and easy to skin and bone? Does it require some training?
>
>> None at all in my case. Dead easy.
>
>> I used to buy them complete except for guts (gutted by the butcher). I
>> cut off the head and feet, then they are really easy to skin; open a
>> hole get fingers in and rip it off, it peels cleanly off in one. Joint
>> it (either a chopper or strong kitchen scissors.)

> Ghe? Uhm, can you go into more detail? I don't get it
>

> It's easy to dress a rabbit, providing one's used to that stuff. If
> one's not, the thought may curl the supposed "dresser" into a ball.
> It's good to know where meat comes from and how it hits the table. I
> just checked. Googling "dressing a rabbit" ought to work for Rich D.
> Start by cutting off their little paws. They're lucky charms!
>
> leo
>
>
>
>
>

[Susan]

[Angus]

[Catherine]

On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 9:29:26 PM UTC-6, RichD wrote:
> Anybody here ever tried wabbit?
>

> --
> Rich

Beef, onion, beans, cheese, no heat?

[Jeanne]

On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 9:29:26 PM UTC-6, RichD wrote:
> Anybody here ever tried wabbit?
>
> --
> Rich

If everything that I think is garlic, is garlic, that would be
interesting.