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Arn0

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Jan 6, 2022, 2:08:44 PM1/6/22
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 15:06:31 -0000 (UTC), heyjoe <th...@is.invalid>
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>Ever wonder why the noise to signal ratio is so high in RFC?
>Yesterday's prolific posters -
>
>Articles Name Most Used Newsreader
>-------- -------------------------- --------------------
> 101 Bruce 7 ForteAgent
> 65 Michael Trew Mozilla
> 54 Arnie ForteAgent
> 38 Jeßus Forte Agent
> 33 Bruce 9 ForteAgent
> 31 Bruce 6 ForteAgent
> 22 Bruce 8 ForteAgent
> 18 John Kuthe G2
> 17 Dave Smith Mozilla
> 17 dsi1 G2
> 16 Sqwertz Mozilla
> 16 Cindy Hamilton G2
> 15 Hank Rogers Mozilla
> 14 jmcquown Mozilla
> 13 Thomas Joseph G2
> 12 bob Unison
> 11 Ed Pawlowski Mozilla
> 10 f...@sdf.org slrn
> 9 Gary Mozilla
> 9 Arn0 ForteAgent
>
>Bonus question - Can you guess who the forgers are?
Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Sqwertz

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Jan 6, 2022, 3:05:43 PM1/6/22
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 15:06:31 -0000 (UTC), heyjoe wrote:

> Ever wonder why the noise to signal ratio is so high in RFC?
> Yesterday's prolific posters -
>
> Articles Name Most Used Newsreader
> -------- -------------------------- --------------------
> 101 Bruce 7 ForteAgent
> 65 Michael Trew Mozilla
> 54 Arnie ForteAgent
> 38 JeິŸus Forte Agent
> 33 Bruce 9 ForteAgent
> 31 Bruce 6 ForteAgent
> 22 Bruce 8 ForteAgent
> 18 John Kuthe G2
> 17 Dave Smith Mozilla
> 17 dsi1 G2
> 16 Sqwertz Mozilla
> 16 Cindy Hamilton G2
> 15 Hank Rogers Mozilla
> 14 jmcquown Mozilla
> 13 Thomas Joseph G2
> 12 bob Unison
> 11 Ed Pawlowski Mozilla
> 10 f...@sdf.org slrn
> 9 Gary Mozilla
> 9 Arn0 ForteAgent
>
> Bonus question - Can you guess who the forgers are?

You can do all that and still don't know how to use killfile? I
have 5 of the top 7 killfiled apparently. What is an "Arnie? (never
mind - doesn't matter).

-sw

Dave Smith

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Jan 6, 2022, 3:14:16 PM1/6/22
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 14:05:35 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
wrote:

>On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 15:06:31 -0000 (UTC), heyjoe wrote:
>
>> Ever wonder why the noise to signal ratio is so high in RFC?
>> Yesterday's prolific posters -
>>
>> Articles Name Most Used Newsreader
>> -------- -------------------------- --------------------
>> 101 Bruce 7 ForteAgent
>> 65 Michael Trew Mozilla
>> 54 Arnie ForteAgent
>> 38 Je??us Forte Agent
>> 33 Bruce 9 ForteAgent
>> 31 Bruce 6 ForteAgent
>> 22 Bruce 8 ForteAgent
>> 18 John Kuthe G2
>> 17 Dave Smith Mozilla
>> 17 dsi1 G2
>> 16 Sqwertz Mozilla
>> 16 Cindy Hamilton G2
>> 15 Hank Rogers Mozilla
>> 14 jmcquown Mozilla
>> 13 Thomas Joseph G2
>> 12 bob Unison
>> 11 Ed Pawlowski Mozilla
>> 10 f...@sdf.org slrn
>> 9 Gary Mozilla
>> 9 Arn0 ForteAgent
>>
>> Bonus question - Can you guess who the forgers are?
>
>You can do all that and still don't know how to use killfile? I
>have 5 of the top 7 killfiled apparently. What is an "Arnie? (never
>mind - doesn't matter).

Just a nice guy who pops in sometimes.

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Jeßus

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Jan 6, 2022, 4:08:31 PM1/6/22
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 15:06:31 -0000 (UTC), heyjoe <th...@is.invalid>
wrote:

>Ever wonder why the noise to signal ratio is so high in RFC?
>Yesterday's prolific posters -
>
>Articles Name Most Used Newsreader
>-------- -------------------------- --------------------
> 101 Bruce 7 ForteAgent
> 65 Michael Trew Mozilla
> 54 Arnie ForteAgent
> 38 Jeßus Forte Agent
> 33 Bruce 9 ForteAgent
> 31 Bruce 6 ForteAgent
> 22 Bruce 8 ForteAgent
> 18 John Kuthe G2
> 17 Dave Smith Mozilla
> 17 dsi1 G2
> 16 Sqwertz Mozilla
> 16 Cindy Hamilton G2
> 15 Hank Rogers Mozilla
> 14 jmcquown Mozilla
> 13 Thomas Joseph G2
> 12 bob Unison
> 11 Ed Pawlowski Mozilla
> 10 f...@sdf.org slrn
> 9 Gary Mozilla
> 9 Arn0 ForteAgent
>
>Bonus question - Can you guess who the forgers are?

Yes. It's you and Bruce.

Dave Smith

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Jan 6, 2022, 4:21:42 PM1/6/22
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 21:17:12 -0000 (UTC), heyjoe <th...@is.invalid>
wrote:

>Dave Smith wrote :
>
>> This is NOT a post by Dave Smith
>
>Ah . . . but "Bruce" only shifts nyms to avoid his forgers.
>Yah, sure, you betcha, snookums.
>
>Hope Dave doesn't get your account pulled for using his email address.

Strange, nobody had a problem when I was being frogged by 3 different
accounts :) And I even add a signature to make it clear it's not
really Dave. Oh, the hypocrisy!

RFC, for all your double standards

Dave Smith

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Jan 6, 2022, 4:36:34 PM1/6/22
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 21:32:04 -0000 (UTC), heyjoe <th...@is.invalid>
wrote:

>Dave Smith wrote :
>
>> Strange, nobody had a problem when I was being frogged by 3 different
>> accounts
>
>-----
><http://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=abuse>
>Q: Will we terminate an account for forging?
>
>A: Yes. If it really is a forge. A forge is not having the same name,
>it is having the same email address. If a user is posting with your
>email address in their From: line we will terminate the account.

That would only terminate one of the 3 accounts that are forging me.

Dave Smith

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Jan 6, 2022, 6:04:20 PM1/6/22
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On 2022-01-06 4:17 p.m., heyjoe wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote :
>
>> This is NOT a post by Dave Smith
>
> Ah . . . but "Bruce" only shifts nyms to avoid his forgers.
> Yah, sure, you betcha, snookums.

I noted that they do not take complaints from third parties, so, being
the second party I sent a complaint.

Dave Smith

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Jan 6, 2022, 6:45:55 PM1/6/22
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Annoying, isn't it?

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Dave Smith

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Jan 6, 2022, 7:09:24 PM1/6/22
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Hell no. It is hilarious to watch you make even more of a fool of
yourself. Most people here know what a fucking loser you are and you
have once again reinforced that opinion.

Hank Rogers

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Jan 6, 2022, 7:19:42 PM1/6/22
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Is master druce back to forging your posts?


Dave Smith

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Jan 6, 2022, 7:42:59 PM1/6/22
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No, I'm doing to the most boring and narrow-minded person of RFC what
the RFC vultures gleefully watched being done to me :)

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Sqwertz

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Jan 6, 2022, 9:05:07 PM1/6/22
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 21:17:12 -0000 (UTC), heyjoe wrote:

> Dave Smith wrote :
>
>> This is NOT a post by Dave Smith
>
> Ah . . . but "Bruce" only shifts nyms to avoid his forgers.
> Yah, sure, you betcha, snookums.
>
> Hope Dave doesn't get your account pulled for using his email address.
>
> <http://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=terms>
> Terms of use
> Users of the news server news.eternal-september.org are obliged to
> abide by the following rules. Failure to do so will cause immediate
> termination of access rights without prior notice.
> * Sender Address
> The e-mail addresses given in "From:", "Reply-To:", and "Sender:"
> SHOULD be yours (i.e. you should be entitled to use it) and SHOULD be
> valid (= should not bounce because of invalidity). Using addresses and
> name space of other people without their consent is prohibited.
>
> <http://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=abuse>
> Q: Will we terminate an account for forging?
>
> A: Yes. If it really is a forge. A forge is not having the same name,
> it is having the same email address. If a user is posting with your
> email address in their From: line we will terminate the account.
>
> In extreme circumstances (it must be obvious and it is our judgment
> that is used) we will terminate an account if a user is deliberately
> spoofing you to cause trouble, but we will first warn that user to
> stop.
>
> Please note that we do not act on third party complaints for spoofing.

Go get him Dudly Doo-Right! But from what I've seen, the original
fake bruce isn't in violation of anything assuming she's posting
from E-S.

Hey, Joe! You're confused.

-sw

Sqwertz

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Jan 6, 2022, 10:02:00 PM1/6/22
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Don't feel bad Dave. Nobody came to my "rescue" when the Boner
forged over 19,000 posts of mine over a 4-5 year period. I only
vaguely remember you being forged for brief nano-second in
comparison.

Joe here just wants to whine about something he doesn't understand.
While he looked up the rules and all that "good stuff" and quoted it
here, he thinks that will "scare" whoever away. But he never filed
any "official" complaint about what he's trying to bitch about.

The "real Bruce" OTOH should just reinvent herself. She wasn't well
liked for years prior, so why and try and preserve that sentiment
with all this drama and frustration?

Just reinvent yourself and pop in as a "newcomer" to RFC and take it
from there. It worked for Michael Trew - nobody would ever suspect
that HE is *~Patches~* of pizza fame. Until now...

-sw

Michael Trew

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Jan 6, 2022, 10:11:59 PM1/6/22
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Precisely. He's done it to himself. Anyone that desperate for
attention, just further ignore them. How pathetic.

Sqwertz

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Jan 6, 2022, 10:32:07 PM1/6/22
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 21:32:04 -0000 (UTC), heyjoe wrote:

> Dave Smith wrote :
>
>> Strange, nobody had a problem when I was being frogged by 3 different
>> accounts
>
> -----
> <http://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=abuse>
> Q: Will we terminate an account for forging?
>
> A: Yes. If it really is a forge. A forge is not having the same name,
> it is having the same email address. If a user is posting with your
> email address in their From: line we will terminate the account.
>
> In extreme circumstances (it must be obvious and it is our judgment
> that is used) we will terminate an account if a user is deliberately
> spoofing you to cause trouble, but we will first warn that user to
> stop.
>
> Please note that we do not act on third party complaints for spoofing.
> ----
>
> Read and understand that last line.
> "Only YOU can prevent forest fires."

That's a terrible analogy, Smokey. You probably meant to say, "Only
YOU can put out forest fires!".

But that wouldn't make much sense, wouldit.

-sw

Sqwertz

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Jan 6, 2022, 11:11:36 PM1/6/22
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There's a new revelation <rolling eyes>.

So let me get this straight: You've been forging 25+ people in RFC
over he last 10+ years, spending virtually every waking hours doing
so in some years, just to prove to yourself that nobody comes to
anybody's rescue. And even if they DID try and intervene, you know
that the news admins wouldn't act on a third-party complaint? And
you took that as a personal affront and that's what's consumed you
all this time?

I think maybe you've become ungrounded from reality. Especially
since there's two big holes:

1. You forged people in a dozen+ groups, not just RFC.
2. Nobody was being forged in RFC until you came along.

So stop with the bullshit revenge sob story. You're just fucked up
in the head and you've even admitted it a couple times here
publicly. It's probable it isn't your fault that you're fucked up
the way your are. But we're not the cause of it either. Find God,
bitch at him. You can even drop my name for extra weight.

-sw

Dave Smith

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Jan 6, 2022, 11:16:02 PM1/6/22
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 21:01:52 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
wrote:

>The "real Bruce" OTOH should just reinvent herself. She wasn't well
>liked for years prior, so why and try and preserve that sentiment
>with all this drama and frustration?

I could do that, but the moment I say anything that links me to the
old Bruce, Greg (or 2 Gregs) and Boner will start again. People here,
except Gary and you so far, don't understand that they are the real
problem. I don't really want to frog Dave or anyone else, that's why
I'm adding the signature.

>Just reinvent yourself and pop in as a "newcomer" to RFC and take it
>from there. It worked for Michael Trew - nobody would ever suspect
>that HE is *~Patches~* of pizza fame. Until now...

I knew Michael wasn't as innocent as he wants to come across.

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Dave Smith

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Jan 6, 2022, 11:19:42 PM1/6/22
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You have no clue.

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Dave Smith

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Jan 6, 2022, 11:21:47 PM1/6/22
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 15:15:52 +1100, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 21:01:52 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>People here, except Gary and you so far, don't understand that they are the real
>problem.

Sorry to who I forgot to mention.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 12:28:34 AM1/7/22
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 22:11:30 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
wrote:
You thought you were talking to Casa Boner, right? I'm Bruce, man, the
original Bruce.

Michael Trew

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Jan 7, 2022, 12:47:27 AM1/7/22
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Yes, his annual meltdown has officially begun!

Sqwertz

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Jan 7, 2022, 12:50:52 AM1/7/22
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 15:15:52 +1100, Dave Smith wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 21:01:52 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>The "real Bruce" OTOH should just reinvent herself. She wasn't well
>>liked for years prior, so why and try and preserve that sentiment
>>with all this drama and frustration?
>
> I could do that, but the moment I say anything that links me to the
> old Bruce, Greg (or 2 Gregs) and Boner will start again. People here,
> except Gary and you so far, don't understand that they are the real
> problem.

So you're saying that you're "Bruce" posting as regulars trying to
.... Uh... what? Discredit Boner for forging you? <boggle> Or...

I could figure this all out if I empty my killfile and do some
clickety-click stuff, but I came the conclusion a couple months ago
that I mostly don't give a shit anymore.

Lots of people here know I've done my fair share of "pro-bono" work
on others behalf. I have a great rapport with ALL the news admins
<snork>. If there is a Dave anymore and he needs some suggestions,
he can email or FB me.

But hiding behind Dave (and probably others) as some sort of excuse
while "we're the problem" is fucking pathetic, whoever you are. I
don't know how you've managed to twist that around to that
conclusion in your head, but it's fucking twisted, for sure.

ObFood: Porterhouse steak for dinner. Gimme a minute to develop the
camera film ...

-sw

Sqwertz

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Jan 7, 2022, 12:52:06 AM1/7/22
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 15:21:41 +1100, Dave Smith wrote:

> On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 15:15:52 +1100, Dave Smith
> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 21:01:52 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
>>wrote:
>>
>>People here, except Gary and you so far, don't understand that they are the real
>>problem.
>
> Sorry to who I forgot to mention.

I didn't get that at all. I haven't even seen post for a while. Let
alone what ee have in common with whoever you are.

-sw

Michael Trew

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Jan 7, 2022, 12:54:17 AM1/7/22
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I'll give you your 10 seconds of attention. You won't be getting a lick
of my attention in the future.

You're a pathetic low-life, for forging a well known poster's name, just
for spite, also to attempt to force people to read your worthless posts
when people would rather ignore you (not just your forger). I hope that
Dave Smith continues to report you for using his e-mail address until
they delete your account.


From message source:

mail-complaints-to="ab...@eternal-september.org";
posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18/YBEnjK2hPixiJOeqWfD3"

Sqwertz

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Jan 7, 2022, 12:54:30 AM1/7/22
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 15:19:35 +1100, Dave Smith wrote:

> You have no clue.

Didn't John say that earlier today? Or was that forgery, too?

Fuggit. Repeat to self: I. Don't. Care.

-sw

Michael Trew

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Jan 7, 2022, 12:56:19 AM1/7/22
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+1

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 12:58:26 AM1/7/22
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Why do you keep showing off how dense you are?

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Sqwertz

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Jan 7, 2022, 12:59:41 AM1/7/22
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 21:17:13 -0000 (UTC), heyjoe wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote :
>
>> You can do all that and still don't know how to use killfile? I
>> have 5 of the top 7 killfiled apparently. What is an "Arnie? (never
>> mind - doesn't matter).
>
> I think I can use a killfile, although my typing is awful and my proof
> reading not much better.
>
> What I still haven't figured out is how to get utf-8 characters in the
> From header. The news server sresponds with a shirty error message
> and refuses to accept the post.

If you're asking for help, then its always a good start by hiding
the fact that you're using XanaNews.

> Ignoring one more nonsensical source
> of useless noise is not a loss.

Which kinda contradicts your OP, doesn't it?

-sw

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 1:03:53 AM1/7/22
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 23:50:46 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
wrote:

>On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 15:15:52 +1100, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> I could do that, but the moment I say anything that links me to the
>> old Bruce, Greg (or 2 Gregs) and Boner will start again. People here,
>> except Gary and you so far, don't understand that they are the real
>> problem.
>
>So you're saying that you're "Bruce" posting as regulars trying to
>.... Uh... what? Discredit Boner for forging you? <boggle> Or...

It's the only way to make sure my posts are visible. People obviously
have the right to killfile me. But they should do it because of what I
post. Not because of the mess my froggers make under my name.

>I could figure this all out if I empty my killfile and do some
>clickety-click stuff, but I came the conclusion a couple months ago
>that I mostly don't give a shit anymore.

Understandable.

>Lots of people here know I've done my fair share of "pro-bono" work
>on others behalf. I have a great rapport with ALL the news admins
><snork>. If there is a Dave anymore and he needs some suggestions,
>he can email or FB me.
>
>But hiding behind Dave (and probably others) as some sort of excuse
>while "we're the problem" is fucking pathetic, whoever you are. I
>don't know how you've managed to twist that around to that
>conclusion in your head, but it's fucking twisted, for sure.

You (singular or plural) aren't the problem. My froggers are the
problem. Greg (definitely) and Casa Boner (probably). They make such a
mess under my name, that people have no choice but to killfile me.

So I post under Dave's name. The froggers don't want to see him
killfiled. I could also have picked Jill or Ed etc.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 1:06:48 AM1/7/22
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 23:52:00 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
wrote:

>On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 15:21:41 +1100, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 15:15:52 +1100, Dave Smith
>> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 21:01:52 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>People here, except Gary and you so far, don't understand that they are the real
>>>problem.
>>
>> Sorry to who I forgot to mention.
>
>I didn't get that at all. I haven't even seen post for a while. Let
>alone what ee have in common with whoever you are.

Sorry if I overestimated you.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 1:07:21 AM1/7/22
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 00:54:17 -0500, Michael Trew
<michae...@att.net> wrote:

>On 1/6/2022 19:42, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 19:09:25 -0500, Dave Smith
>> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-01-06 6:45 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> Annoying, isn't it?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hell no. It is hilarious to watch you make even more of a fool of
>>> yourself. Most people here know what a fucking loser you are and you
>>> have once again reinforced that opinion.
>>>
>> No, I'm doing to the most boring and narrow-minded person of RFC what
>> the RFC vultures gleefully watched being done to me :)
>
>I'll give you your 10 seconds of attention. You won't be getting a lick
>of my attention in the future.

And you expect me to read the rest?

Jeßus

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Jan 7, 2022, 1:22:22 AM1/7/22
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 21:26:00 -0000 (UTC), heyjoe <th...@is.invalid>
wrote:

>Jeßus wrote :
>
>> On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 15:06:31 -0000 (UTC), heyjoe <th...@is.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Ever wonder why the noise to signal ratio is so high in RFC?
>
>>>Bonus question - Can you guess who the forgers are?
>>
>> Yes. It's you and Bruce.
>
><BEG>

?

>Although, I refuse to put my usenet account at risk for silly,
>childish behavior.

OK?

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 1:25:49 AM1/7/22
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 17:22:09 +1100, Jeßus <j...@j.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 21:26:00 -0000 (UTC), heyjoe <th...@is.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>Jeßus wrote :
>>
>>> On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 15:06:31 -0000 (UTC), heyjoe <th...@is.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Ever wonder why the noise to signal ratio is so high in RFC?
>>
>>>>Bonus question - Can you guess who the forgers are?
>>>
>>> Yes. It's you and Bruce.
>>
>><BEG>
>
>?
>
>>Although, I refuse to put my usenet account at risk for silly,
>>childish behavior.
>
>OK?

Meaningful conversation.

Jeßus

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Jan 7, 2022, 1:32:50 AM1/7/22
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 19:09:25 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2022-01-06 6:45 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>> On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 18:04:22 -0500, Dave Smith
>> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-01-06 4:17 p.m., heyjoe wrote:
>>>> Dave Smith wrote :
>>>>
>>>>> This is NOT a post by Dave Smith
>>>>
>>>> Ah . . . but "Bruce" only shifts nyms to avoid his forgers.
>>>> Yah, sure, you betcha, snookums.
>>>
>>> I noted that they do not take complaints from third parties, so, being
>>> the second party I sent a complaint.
>>
>> Annoying, isn't it?
>>
>
>Hell no. It is hilarious to watch you make even more of a fool of
>yourself. Most people here know what a fucking loser you are and you
>have once again reinforced that opinion.

I guess it's pure coincidence he chose you and not, say, Ophelia, to
forge... Oh well. He's shown his true colours.

Jeßus

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Jan 7, 2022, 1:37:00 AM1/7/22
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 23:50:46 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
wrote:


>But hiding behind Dave (and probably others) as some sort of excuse
>while "we're the problem" is fucking pathetic, whoever you are. I
>don't know how you've managed to twist that around to that
>conclusion in your head, but it's fucking twisted, for sure.

Amazing logic, isn't it? He's a 'victim', so naturally forging a RFC
regular (that he happens to dislike) makes perfect sense.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:13:25 AM1/7/22
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Yup. Thanks for understanding.

Gary

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Jan 7, 2022, 8:15:28 AM1/7/22
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On 1/7/2022 1:03 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> So I post under Dave's name. The froggers don't want to see him
> killfiled. I could also have picked Jill or Ed etc.

You do have a problem with the trollie that stalks you. You change your
name and often the troll picks up on it within minutes.

My advice (what would I do in your situation):

Read and respond to messages under a new fake name every day. But not a
name that is used here. Save all your responses as draft or in your
unsent folder.

Then post many responses all at once before the troll can copy you.
Do that once or twice a day, different name each time.

Hope that helps. :)


Ophelia

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Jan 7, 2022, 9:05:07 AM1/7/22
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Not sure what is going on here but is it all about Bruce??

Ever since he got here he has been jumped on and blamed for everything!

I don't think that is fair!

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 9:25:14 AM1/7/22
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On 2022-01-07 12:50 a.m., Sqwertz wrote:

> So you're saying that you're "Bruce" posting as regulars trying to
> .... Uh... what? Discredit Boner for forging you? <boggle> Or...
>
> I could figure this all out if I empty my killfile and do some
> clickety-click stuff, but I came the conclusion a couple months ago
> that I mostly don't give a shit anymore.
>
> Lots of people here know I've done my fair share of "pro-bono" work
> on others behalf. I have a great rapport with ALL the news admins
> <snork>. If there is a Dave anymore and he needs some suggestions,
> he can email or FB me.
>
> But hiding behind Dave (and probably others) as some sort of excuse
> while "we're the problem" is fucking pathetic, whoever you are. I
> don't know how you've managed to twist that around to that
> conclusion in your head, but it's fucking twisted, for sure.
>

Pretty much everything he has done here has been a pathetic cry for
attention, the constant sniping that got him into kill files, his
constant nymshifting to get past the filters, the frogging. They are
all cries for attention. Maybe his mother weaned him too early. He
probably got bullied a lot in school now he is lashing out from than
anonymity of his keyboard.

I didn't protest when he was being frogged? It wasn't my battle. As you
pointed out, it is up to the person being frogged to complain. If
someone is hassling him because he is such an annoying pest I suppose he
could nymshift again but come back as a more mature and less annoying
and he might be accepted.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 12:18:47 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 08:16:01 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>You do have a problem with the trollie that stalks you. You change your
>name and often the troll picks up on it within minutes.

Yes, why do the usual suspects not understand this?

>My advice (what would I do in your situation):
>
>Read and respond to messages under a new fake name every day. But not a
>name that is used here. Save all your responses as draft or in your
>unsent folder.
>
>Then post many responses all at once before the troll can copy you.
>Do that once or twice a day, different name each time.
>
>Hope that helps. :)
>
It's an idea, but I can already hear the howling by the likes of Jill
and Dave: "He's nymshifting! He's nymshifting! He's a this! He's a
that! Atrocity! Horror!"

Plus, I'd also have to change my email address every day along with
the name, because many people killfile on that. And that's not always
allowed more than once a month or whatever the limit is. Depends on
the provider, no doubt.

The way it goes now is good, while it lasts. The trolls can't make me
invisible and my signature tells people I'm not really Dave Smith. And
because Dave's such a good sport, he doesn't mind at all. He's glad to
help. Dave hates trolls too, you know.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 12:21:06 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 14:05:01 +0000, Ophelia <Oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:
One or two trolls are causing the problem, but people who don't like
me, prefer to pretend I'm causing it. Suits their agenda better.

--

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 12:29:12 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 09:25:17 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>Pretty much everything he has done here has been a pathetic cry for
>attention, the constant sniping that got him into kill files, his
>constant nymshifting to get past the filters, the frogging. They are
>all cries for attention. Maybe his mother weaned him too early. He
>probably got bullied a lot in school now he is lashing out from than
>anonymity of his keyboard.
>
>I didn't protest when he was being frogged? It wasn't my battle. As you
>pointed out, it is up to the person being frogged to complain. If
>someone is hassling him because he is such an annoying pest I suppose he
>could nymshift again but come back as a more mature and less annoying
>and he might be accepted.

I have the right to say what I want to say without being cancelled by
a couple of immature trolls. And who wants to killfile me can do so.
But killfile me because you can't handle my posts, not because a troll
wants you to.

Your inability or refusal to understand this says a lot about you. And
it ain't good.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 12:48:58 PM1/7/22
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On 2022-01-07 12:29 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 09:25:17 -0500, Dave Smith
nymity of his keyboard.
>>
>> I didn't protest when he was being frogged? It wasn't my battle. As you
>> pointed out, it is up to the person being frogged to complain. If
>> someone is hassling him because he is such an annoying pest I suppose he
>> could nymshift again but come back as a more mature and less annoying
>> and he might be accepted.
>
> I have the right to say what I want to say without being cancelled by
> a couple of immature trolls. And who wants to killfile me can do so.
> But killfile me because you can't handle my posts, not because a troll
> wants you to.

Of course you have the right to say whatever the fuck you want to say.
We just don't have to listen. There may possible be a news group
somewhere with people who appreciate those little balls of shit that you
seem to think are so cleaver, like alt.retarded or something like that.
We have the right not to listen. Some of us prefer to not to have to see
your constant snipping and would be prefer not to see it. If that means
filtering you and filtering the sock puppets who exist only to echo your
cheap shots, that is what it takes. But that upsets you because you
have a really desperate need to be heard, not that you have any sort of
worthwhile contribution.

It's really pretty sad that you dislike me so much but that you have to
frog me because I have so much more credibility than you. I know there
are people who have filtered me, or who claim to have done so. I have
never nymshifted to get by those filters. If they don't value my input
that is their problem.


> Your inability or refusal to understand this says a lot about you. And
> it ain't good.

I really don't give a fuck about you and the person who is doing to you
what you are doing to me. I did comment that someone was doing an
excellent job of mimicking you. Some of the froggers are too easy to
spot, but frogging you with posts with the same sort of nonsense that
you post made it hard to tell you apart. If it bothers you, your issue
is with them. If you can't figure out how to deal with it, that is your
problem.



Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 12:58:03 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 12:48:50 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2022-01-07 12:29 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> I have the right to say what I want to say without being cancelled by
>> a couple of immature trolls. And who wants to killfile me can do so.
>> But killfile me because you can't handle my posts, not because a troll
>> wants you to.
>
>Of course you have the right to say whatever the fuck you want to say.

I just love how you put that.

>We just don't have to listen.

Of course not. You can killfile me. But not because a troll wants you
to. Because YOU want to.

Ed Pawlowski

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Jan 7, 2022, 1:05:04 PM1/7/22
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OK, so stand alone under your name, not hide behind Dave. That is a
chicken shit way of being heard. Mommy, stop the other kids from calling
me names.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 1:12:07 PM1/7/22
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If I post under my name, I'll be invisible. Is it really that hard to
understand?

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 1:13:18 PM1/7/22
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You would have to be retarded not to know that I want to. I did. I did
it long ago, long before you annoyed a this alleged troll.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 1:20:37 PM1/7/22
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When you posted under your name you went out of your way to be snarky
and obnoxious to the point where people got fed up and filtered you. If
you stopped acting like an obnoxious child people would not filter you.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 1:24:40 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 13:13:12 -0500, Dave Smith
Yes, everything was fine. You killfile me, you don't see me. Then the
trolls came along and ruined that little peace agreement. Can't you
see that? Go tell off Greg Sorrow.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 1:29:46 PM1/7/22
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What peace agreement?
I have no contact with that moron. He was one of the first to be
filtered here.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 1:30:01 PM1/7/22
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I post what I want to post. When people killfile me, I feel free to
let rip. There are lots of people who haven't killfiled me and who I
never say anything "snarky" about. Something about credit or basic
respect.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 1:33:03 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 13:29:40 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2022-01-07 1:24 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>> On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 13:13:12 -0500, Dave Smith
>> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>
>>>
>>> You would have to be retarded not to know that I want to. I did. I did
>>> it long ago, long before you annoyed a this alleged troll.
>>
>> Yes, everything was fine. You killfile me, you don't see me. Then the
>> trolls came along and ruined that little peace agreement. Can't you
>> see that? Go tell off Greg Sorrow.
>>
>
> What peace agreement?
>I have no contact with that moron. He was one of the first to be
>filtered here.

Well, you're on the ball there.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 1:35:13 PM1/7/22
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That ended up getting you in even more fillfiles. That worked really
well. I am left wondering if you stand in your yard and hurl insults at
your neighbours and then scream louder when they go inside and close
their windows.

I used to get regular calls from a particular charity. I asked them to
stop calling. They kept calling. I ended up blocking their number. They
changed their number. They still call once in a while. They may get
through, but they don't get what they are after.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 1:44:47 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 13:35:06 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2022-01-07 1:29 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> I post what I want to post. When people killfile me, I feel free to
>> let rip. There are lots of people who haven't killfiled me and who I
>> never say anything "snarky" about. Something about credit or basic
>> respect.
>>
>That ended up getting you in even more fillfiles. That worked really
>well. I am left wondering if you stand in your yard and hurl insults at
>your neighbours and then scream louder when they go inside and close
>their windows.

No, but that's a neat idea :)

>I used to get regular calls from a particular charity. I asked them to
>stop calling. They kept calling. I ended up blocking their number. They
>changed their number. They still call once in a while. They may get
>through, but they don't get what they are after.

A strange way to try and get money from someone.

Dave Smith

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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 13:35:06 -0500, Dave Smith
Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:03:21 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 13:29:40 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2022-01-07 1:24 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>> On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 13:13:12 -0500, Dave Smith
>> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>
>>>
>>> You would have to be retarded not to know that I want to. I did. I did
>>> it long ago, long before you annoyed a this alleged troll.
>>
>> Yes, everything was fine. You killfile me, you don't see me. Then the
>> trolls came along and ruined that little peace agreement. Can't you
>> see that? Go tell off Greg Sorrow.
>>
>
> What peace agreement?
>I have no contact with that moron. He was one of the first to be
>filtered here.
Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Dave Smith

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Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:05:56 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 13:20:32 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2022-01-07 1:11 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>> On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 13:04:58 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/7/2022 12:57 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 12:48:50 -0500, Dave Smith
>>>> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>
>>> OK, so stand alone under your name, not hide behind Dave. That is a
>>> chicken shit way of being heard. Mommy, stop the other kids from calling
>>> me names.
>>
>> If I post under my name, I'll be invisible. Is it really that hard to
>> understand?
>>
>
>When you posted under your name you went out of your way to be snarky
>and obnoxious to the point where people got fed up and filtered you. If
>you stopped acting like an obnoxious child people would not filter you.
>Is it really that hard to understand?
Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Ed Pawlowski

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:06:24 PM1/7/22
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Can't make people like you and read you. Your reputation will get you
read or kill filed.

I said it before, you do occasionally make a witty comment or add
something sensible but there is so much sniping at others it gets lost.
You have complete control for how you are perceived. Stop the snarky
comments. Up to you, not us.

Dave Smith

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Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Dave Smith

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Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Dave Smith

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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 13:04:58 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Hank Rogers

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:11:29 PM1/7/22
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Exactly. If master stopped the sniping, whining, and butt sniffing,
he wouldn't need to change names or forge posts.

Unfortunately, he's too fucked up in the head to be able to do that
for very long. Sadly, master may be as ill as kuth ... just
different symptoms.




Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:22:05 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 14:06:18 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 1/7/2022 1:11 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> If I post under my name, I'll be invisible. Is it really that hard to
>> understand?
>>
>
>Can't make people like you and read you. Your reputation will get you
>read or kill filed.

Nobody has to read me. But people should make up their own mind about
that. It's not something a troll should decide for other people.

>I said it before, you do occasionally make a witty comment or add
>something sensible but there is so much sniping at others it gets lost.
>You have complete control for how you are perceived. Stop the snarky
>comments. Up to you, not us.

Are you really suggesting I change what I say to keep the peace with a
bunch of trolls? Don't you have an Amendment about freedom of speech?
Or does that only apply when it suits you?

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:24:28 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 13:11:19 -0600, Hank Rogers <Ha...@nospam.invalid>
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Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:26:14 PM1/7/22
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Can you go into more detail? I don't get it

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:27:55 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 13:11:19 -0600, Hank Rogers <Ha...@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Hank Rogers

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:31:18 PM1/7/22
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Je�us wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 19:09:25 -0500, Dave Smith
> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2022-01-06 6:45 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 18:04:22 -0500, Dave Smith
>>> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-01-06 4:17 p.m., heyjoe wrote:
>>>>> Dave Smith wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is NOT a post by Dave Smith
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah . . . but "Bruce" only shifts nyms to avoid his forgers.
>>>>> Yah, sure, you betcha, snookums.
>>>>
>>>> I noted that they do not take complaints from third parties, so, being
>>>> the second party I sent a complaint.
>>>
>>> Annoying, isn't it?
>>>
>>
>> Hell no. It is hilarious to watch you make even more of a fool of
>> yourself. Most people here know what a fucking loser you are and you
>> have once again reinforced that opinion.
>
> I guess it's pure coincidence he chose you and not, say, Ophelia, to
> forge... Oh well. He's shown his true colours.
>

No, he's always been drawn to dave, even more than jill or ed. I
guess he may subconsciously admire dave and likes to pretend to be
dave. There are stranger mental illnesses.

Ophelia, like kuth, are simply his baby chicks which he shelters
with his righteous maternal wings.







.


jmcquown

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:31:20 PM1/7/22
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Thank you, Ed! (Wait for the next snarky comment about me liking
something you posted.)

Jill

jmcquown

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:32:14 PM1/7/22
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Go away, boy, you bother me.

Jill

Ed Pawlowski

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:35:10 PM1/7/22
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On 1/7/2022 2:21 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
Nope, you can say anything you want but we don't have to read it. Just
like the library. Some books are read frequently, others sit and
collect dust. You want to continue making snarky remarks, I'm done
reading you, as are many here.

You are the one to make the choice. No one can make people like you are
ready you inane posts. The fact that you are hiding behind Dave is
really a pathetic statement of how you are perceived. If you want to
continue, go right a head, but it is as lame as a child asking his
mother to come to the playground to make the other kids play with him.

I've said enough. Your choice.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:42:10 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 13:31:06 -0600, Hank Rogers <Ha...@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))
--

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:42:21 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 14:31:11 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:42:26 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 14:32:06 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
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Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:42:54 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 14:31:11 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

People from the Land of the Free don't care about freedom of speech.
Duly noted. Thank you.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:42:57 PM1/7/22
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Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:43:47 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 14:32:06 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
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Jill wants to be a Facebook moderator and is already practicing :)

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:45:45 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 14:35:02 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 1/7/2022 2:21 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>> Are you really suggesting I change what I say to keep the peace with a
>> bunch of trolls? Don't you have an Amendment about freedom of speech?
>> Or does that only apply when it suits you?
>>
>Nope, you can say anything you want but we don't have to read it. Just
>like the library. Some books are read frequently, others sit and
>collect dust. You want to continue making snarky remarks, I'm done
>reading you, as are many here.

We've been through this a 100 times. Nobody is obliged to read me.
Killfile me if you want. But that should be YOUR decision, not a
troll's decision.

>You are the one to make the choice. No one can make people like you are
>ready you inane posts. The fact that you are hiding behind Dave is
>really a pathetic statement of how you are perceived. If you want to
>continue, go right a head, but it is as lame as a child asking his
>mother to come to the playground to make the other kids play with him.
>
>I've said enough. Your choice.

You don't get it. You're dense.

Michael Trew

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:52:26 PM1/7/22
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On 1/6/2022 22:01, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> The "real Bruce" OTOH should just reinvent herself. She wasn't well
> liked for years prior, so why and try and preserve that sentiment
> with all this drama and frustration?

True, that's the only way for Bruce to be a productive member that three
quarters of the group don't despise.

> Just reinvent yourself and pop in as a "newcomer" to RFC and take it
> from there. It worked for Michael Trew - nobody would ever suspect
> that HE is *~Patches~* of pizza fame. Until now...
>
> -sw

Who is that? Come'on... don't make me look him up.

This group isn't particularly friendly to newcomers, they are treated as
unwelcome strangers. I guess my odd stories and lifestyle eventually
convinced most of you that I am a real person, heh. Otherwise, I'd be a
pretty darn impressive writer, I do believe.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:55:46 PM1/7/22
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You're just a bit of a bigot, that's all :)

Michael Trew

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Jan 7, 2022, 2:56:47 PM1/7/22
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Agreed. Bruce doesn't seem to understand that he's kill-filed primarily
because of his personality, not because of the person posting forged
messages under his name. I only recall Greg, and maybe one other
person, suggesting kill-filing him due to spam posts.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 3:00:52 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 14:56:49 -0500, Michael Trew
<michae...@att.net> wrote:

>Agreed. Bruce doesn't seem to understand that he's kill-filed primarily
>because of his personality, not because of the person posting forged
>messages under his name. I only recall Greg, and maybe one other
>person, suggesting kill-filing him due to spam posts.

Too dumb to poop.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 3:06:16 PM1/7/22
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Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 3:06:48 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 14:56:49 -0500, Michael Trew
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Dave Smith

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Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 3:55:18 PM1/7/22
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On 2022-01-07 2:45 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 14:35:02 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
>> On 1/7/2022 2:21 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> Are you really suggesting I change what I say to keep the peace with a
>>> bunch of trolls? Don't you have an Amendment about freedom of speech?
>>> Or does that only apply when it suits you?
>>>
>> Nope, you can say anything you want but we don't have to read it. Just
>> like the library. Some books are read frequently, others sit and
>> collect dust. You want to continue making snarky remarks, I'm done
>> reading you, as are many here.
>
> We've been through this a 100 times. Nobody is obliged to read me.
> Killfile me if you want. But that should be YOUR decision, not a
> troll's decision.

You appear to be exceptionally dense on this issue. Some of us did
killfile you and that was because of you, not because of the alleged
trolls. You persisted in nymshifting to get around the filters. Then you
started forging the names of other users. Now you are frogging me and
flooding the group with your idiocy.

>
>> You are the one to make the choice. No one can make people like you are
>> ready you inane posts. The fact that you are hiding behind Dave is
>> really a pathetic statement of how you are perceived. If you want to
>> continue, go right a head, but it is as lame as a child asking his
>> mother to come to the playground to make the other kids play with him.
>>
>> I've said enough. Your choice.
>
> You don't get it. You're dense.
>
Sorry, but you are the dense one. You could go back to posting under the
Bruce name and anyone who cares to read your piffle is free to do so.
There is no need for you to try to drag the rest of the group into your
vortex of dysfunction.

Dave Smith

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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 15:55:12 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>You appear to be exceptionally dense on this issue. Some of us did
>killfile you and that was because of you, not because of the alleged
>trolls.

Yes, fine.

>You persisted in nymshifting to get around the filters.

Very rarely and only if people who had me killfiled were bitching
about me. Most of the time, I let it go.

>Then you started forging the names of other users.

Huh? Other users? I've only ever frogged you and always with an added
signature saying it wasn't really you. And it was always provoked by
froggers, who are the real core of this problem.

>Now you are frogging me and flooding the group with your idiocy.

Flooding? I'm posting normally, as I always have. The troll (Greg is
my guess) is flooding the group. Why is everybody so dense?

>>> You are the one to make the choice. No one can make people like you are
>>> ready you inane posts. The fact that you are hiding behind Dave is
>>> really a pathetic statement of how you are perceived. If you want to
>>> continue, go right a head, but it is as lame as a child asking his
>>> mother to come to the playground to make the other kids play with him.
>>>
>>> I've said enough. Your choice.
>>
>> You don't get it. You're dense.
>>
>Sorry, but you are the dense one. You could go back to posting under the
>Bruce name and anyone who cares to read your piffle is free to do so.

No, they wouldn't be able to read my "piffle". The trolls force
everybody to killfile "Bruce" by flooding the group under that name.
Why is everybody so dense? Maybe Gary can explain it in a way y'all
understand it. I'm clearly not able to.

>There is no need for you to try to drag the rest of the group into your
>vortex of dysfunction.

Talk to the trolls. They're dragging the group into their vortex of
dysfunction. They're doing the flooding. Not me. Not now, not ever.

Ed Pawlowski

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Jan 7, 2022, 4:31:31 PM1/7/22
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Look in a mirror

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 4:37:48 PM1/7/22
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I just realised... Maybe if you and Dave (obviously) had "Bruce"
killfiled all this time, you didn't even see what the trolls were
doing. Rather than you and Dave being extremely dense, maybe you just
never knew. In which case you'd also not understand why I'm posting
under Dave's name.

Ed Pawlowski

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Jan 7, 2022, 4:41:13 PM1/7/22
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You seem confused how that works. You can say anything you want. You
can't make people listen though and they go out of their way to avoid
the nonsense when they know the person had nothing good to say. .

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 4:47:12 PM1/7/22
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Yes, you can killfile me. Of course. That's not the issue.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 4:48:23 PM1/7/22
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You just realized that I had you filtered? I certainly had you filtered
and you have nymshifted to get past my filter. Every time you altered
your username to get through the filter was adjusted. Those that slipped
through were ignored.

This does nothing to explain why would be forging me. You don't like
me, but you have acknowledged that I have a hell of a lot more
credibility than you do. How pathetic your life must be that you would
have to post under my name because you know that everyone you are trying
to annoy with your posts has you filtered.
Now you've got Morrow doing the same thing and framing you?

It must really suck to be you.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 4:52:59 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 16:48:16 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>You just realized that I had you filtered? I certainly had you filtered
>and you have nymshifted to get past my filter. Every time you altered
>your username to get through the filter was adjusted. Those that slipped
>through were ignored.
>
>This does nothing to explain why would be forging me. You don't like
>me, but you have acknowledged that I have a hell of a lot more
>credibility than you do. How pathetic your life must be that you would
>have to post under my name because you know that everyone you are trying
>to annoy with your posts has you filtered.
>Now you've got Morrow doing the same thing and framing you?
>
>It must really suck to be you.

I can't keep explaining the same thing. It's starting to give me a
headache. If you still don't understand it, we may have to accept the
fact that you never will. It's like teaching spelling to a dyslexic.

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 4:59:52 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2022 14:52:26 -0500, Michael Trew
<michae...@att.net> wrote:

Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 5:00:57 PM1/7/22
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Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 5:01:25 PM1/7/22
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Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

GM

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Jan 7, 2022, 5:05:19 PM1/7/22
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I am not involved in *this* kerfuffle at all, lol...


> It must really suck to be you.


Yes indeedy...

--
GM

Dave Smith

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Jan 7, 2022, 5:09:20 PM1/7/22
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On 2022-01-07 4:52 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 16:48:16 -0500, Dave Smith

>> This does nothing to explain why would be forging me. You don't like
>> me, but you have acknowledged that I have a hell of a lot more
>> credibility than you do. How pathetic your life must be that you would
>> have to post under my name because you know that everyone you are trying
>> to annoy with your posts has you filtered.
>> Now you've got Morrow doing the same thing and framing you?
>>
>> It must really suck to be you.
>
> I can't keep explaining the same thing. It's starting to give me a
> headache. If you still don't understand it, we may have to accept the
> fact that you never will. It's like teaching spelling to a dyslexic.
>

What is there to explain?? You are forging my name. There is no excuse
for that. You know that the people you want to annoy with your posts
have filtered you and you have admitted nymshifting to get past filters
and to forging. Your frogger has imitated you. It is hard to tell you
apart. It's a shame that you can't find a group that appreciates your
quirky attempts at witty retort.

You really do need to get your mommy to come here and make the others
play with you.

Ed Pawlowski

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Jan 7, 2022, 5:17:16 PM1/7/22
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Oh I know exactly why. Now you have a frogger screwing up Dave's posts
in order to target you. Face facts:
NOBODY LIKES YOU THE WAY YOU ARE

One or two are out to destroy you no matter what. Have the balls to
post under your own chosen name and let people decide. If they want to
read you stuff they can.

YOU made your reputation.

Jeßus

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Jan 7, 2022, 5:31:29 PM1/7/22
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 13:04:58 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 1/7/2022 12:57 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 12:48:50 -0500, Dave Smith
>> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-01-07 12:29 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have the right to say what I want to say without being cancelled by
>>>> a couple of immature trolls. And who wants to killfile me can do so.
>>>> But killfile me because you can't handle my posts, not because a troll
>>>> wants you to.
>>>
>>> Of course you have the right to say whatever the fuck you want to say.
>>
>> I just love how you put that.
>>
>>> We just don't have to listen.
>>
>> Of course not. You can killfile me. But not because a troll wants you
>> to. Because YOU want to.
>>
>OK, so stand alone under your name, not hide behind Dave. That is a
>chicken shit way of being heard. Mommy, stop the other kids from calling
>me names.

He has an entirely different mind set, as I'm sure you realise by now.
He thinks woke, so anything can be justified in his mind.

Years and years of disrespecting and trolling people here makes HIM
the victim, you see?

We are all wrong, and Bruce is right. All the ignorant Americans,
those whose politics differs... those who like anything he doesn't...
and god forbid you eat meat (but fish is fine?) gives him the divine
right to behave this way. It's his duty to correct us all. We just
haven't accepted it yet.

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