beets are yummy

[songbird]

:)

that is all. ok, a little butter on them.


songbird

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Pickled beets are great but not those awful, cooked beets.

[Bruce]

On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 16:57:11 -0400, songbird <song...@anthive.com>
wrote:

> :)
>
> that is all. ok, a little butter on them.

Lots of people hate them and say they taste like dirt. My mother
didn't like them so I had a beetless childhood. Anyway, I like them a
lot.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Do you like the pickled variety, too?

As a child, I thought cooked or pickled were awful. As an adult, I came
to my senses about the pickled variety.

[Dave Smith]

I don't mind beets. I will eat them if they are served to me. I will
order borsht for a beet fix. My wife hates beets with a passion. Our
son, who grew up without every eating beets, discovered them after he
moved out. He loves pickled beets.

[Bruce]

On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 14:31:51 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 4:17:24 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 16:57:11 -0400, songbird <song...@anthive.com>
>> wrote:
>> > :)
>> >
>> > that is all. ok, a little butter on them.
>> >
>> Lots of people hate them and say they taste like dirt. My mother
>> didn't like them so I had a beetless childhood. Anyway, I like them a
>> lot.
>>
>Do you like the pickled variety, too?

Yes, pickled or baked or fried.

>As a child, I thought cooked or pickled were awful. As an adult, I came
>to my senses about the pickled variety.

I think traditional "white" -including Dutch- cooking ruined lots of
vegetables by throwing them into boiling water until done. And then
children wouldn't want to eat their vegetables. Of course not.

[Thomas]

I have only had the sliced canned. I buy for making horseradish. I use the juice and a slice or two and eat most of whatever is left. I like it.

[Hank Rogers]

Before or after digestion master?

[S Viemeister]

On 14/07/2023 22:17, Bruce wrote:

(re: beets)

> Lots of people hate them and say they taste like dirt. My mother
> didn't like them so I had a beetless childhood. Anyway, I like them a
> lot.
>

My mother loved them, my father liked them, too.
To me, they taste like dirt.
I'm one of those unfortunate people who taste soap when they eat
cilantro/coriander leaf.
And when I'm near cyanide, I can smell almonds.

[songbird]

i think they do taste like dirt, but i still like
them.

at one time i was making several dozen quarts a year
of pickled beets, but i'd also have them plain or as
harvard beets, borscht, raw, beet greens, etc.

chard is pretty much another version of beet greens
except chards don't have the bottom developed part.
still good.

funny thing to me is that Mom hates chard or beet
greens but she likes beets, pickled beets or harvard
beets.


songbird

[songbird]

when i was working i'd take a can of cheapo veggies
with me to have for lunch. people could not believe
that i'd eat any of them cold right from the can.

i've never made horseradish or grown it here so that's
a new one on me that someone would pink it up.

a really interesting use of beets, pickled beets,
etc is on cottage cheese. i love the colors and
patterns it would make.


songbird

[Bruce]

I think that cilantro tastes weird, not really like a food item. But I
still like it in certain dishes. Maybe I like soap. I've never smelled
cyanide.

[Sqwertz]

I like beets but I've never buttered them. Pickled and/or on
salads, or just out of the can. I never buy fresh beets because
they're about $3 for a bunch of 2-3 beets (or $2/lb without tops)
when cans contain just as much for $.88/ea).

And they do NOT taste like boiled dirt chunks unless they come
from Eastern Europe.

-sw

[Sqwertz]

Pickled beets are cooked.

=sw

[Sqwertz]

On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 16:57:11 -0400, songbird wrote:

And nothing beets a beat and blue cheese salad with some roasted
pine nuts or pumpkin seed kernels - with champagne viniagrette or
even that nasty french dressing.

-sw

[Sqwertz]

On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 23:32:56 +0100, S Viemeister wrote:

> To me, they taste like dirt.

You need to get some American-rasised beets. The ones I've gotten
from eastern Europe *do* taste like dirt.

> And when I'm near cyanide, I can smell almonds.

Almonds are a source of cyanide, both as raw and again as a
metabolite in humans.

-sw

[S Viemeister]

On 15/07/2023 02:07, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 23:32:56 +0100, S Viemeister wrote:
>
>> To me, they taste like dirt.
>
> You need to get some American-rasised beets. The ones I've gotten
> from eastern Europe *do* taste like dirt.
>

The last beets I tried to eat, were grown in New York.
They tasted like dirt.

[Bruce]

On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 18:40:55 -0400, songbird <song...@anthive.com>
wrote:

I used to grow chard in a more temperate climate. Also nice IMO.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Yes, they are but they've had vinegar and different spices added to
them to add a great flavor and then canned (water bath or under
pressure).

[Graham]

On 2023-07-14 4:32 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
> On 14/07/2023 22:17, Bruce wrote:
>
> (re: beets)
>
>> Lots of people hate them and say they taste like dirt. My mother
>> didn't like them so I had a beetless childhood. Anyway, I like them a
>> lot.
>>
> My mother loved them, my father liked them, too.
> To me, they taste like dirt.
> I'm one of those unfortunate people who taste soap when they eat
> cilantro/coriander leaf.

We have similar tastes:-) I've detested red beet since childhood.
Little cubes of it were always a constituent of the salads served
in school "dinners" in Primary School.

[Bruce]

Why are people always so proud of food items they don't like? I think
there's a big market for T-shirts with the text "I hate [food item]".
People seem to derive some kind of identity from their food dislikes.

[Bruce]

No trolling, please, Graham!

[Janet]

In article <7ep8oj-...@anthive.com>,
song...@anthive.com says...

>
> :)
>
> that is all. ok, a little butter on them.
>
>
> songbird

With horseradish sauce for me

Janet UK

[Bruce]

You forgot to mention John Kuthe.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Yes, they do.

I think it's well established that everybody's sense of taste
is different. If people say beets taste like dirt, then beets
taste like dirt to them. Even if beets don't taste like dirt
to you.

"Their “earthy” flavor comes from a compound called geosmin, which is
also the same compound that we associate with the smell of “fresh rain”
and “forest soil”. Some people are much more sensitive to this compound
than others, that is why some people say they taste like dirt, and
others love them."
https://adirondackharvest.com/do-you-think-beets-taste-like-dirt/

Interesting:
Other foods containing geosmin include freshwater fish (catfish,
carp, trout), spinach and mushrooms.
https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2015/mar/18/earthlike-essence-varies-by-variety-201

That may account for my dislike of freshwater fish.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[S Viemeister]

We should compare DNA...

[S Viemeister]

I'm not 'proud' of not liking the taste of dirt and soap. I've tried
eating beets and coriander leaf in many different dishes, but the
unpleasant (to me) taste always comes through.
I _want_ to like them!

[Bruce]

I wasn't referring to you. I just sometimes notice it in people.
"Hello, I'm John. I don't like carrots!"

[Dave Smith]

They are not my favourite vegetable but I find them benign. I will eat
them if they are served to me. Since my wife hates them so much we
don't cook and serve them in the house. Wait a sec... I lie. I tried a
salad a few years ago that had Bibb Lettuce, chopped roasted beets,
walnuts and blue cheese. I liked it more than she did. She actually
made it herself one a few weeks later. I guess that is a case of beets
being served here twice over the course of 50 years..... almost never.

If I see borscht on a menu there is a good chance I will order it.

[Michael Trew]

On 7/14/2023 6:43 PM, songbird wrote:
>
> i've never made horseradish or grown it here so that's
> a new one on me that someone would pink it up.

I planted horseradish this year, for fun. We'll see how it goes.

[Michael Trew]

LOL... OK, that makes three Janet UK posts about food, perhaps in the
last year or so. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 15 Jul 2023 09:35:12 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2023-07-15 12:03 a.m., Graham wrote:
>> On 2023-07-14 4:32 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:
>
>>> My mother loved them, my father liked them, too.
>>> To me, they taste like dirt.
>>> I'm one of those unfortunate people who taste soap when they eat
>>> cilantro/coriander leaf.
>>
>> We have similar tastes:-) I've detested red beet since childhood.
>> Little cubes of it were always a constituent of the salads served
>> in school "dinners" in Primary School.
>>
>They are not my favourite vegetable but I find them benign.

Lol. They will be relieved.

[Bruce]

If she'll ever reach 5 posts that are not about John Kuthe, we should
celebrate.

[songbird]

having heard how invasive it can get i won't
be planting it. we don't normally use it that
often anyways. what little we use mostly comes
in the form of cocktail sauce.


songbird

[Hank Rogers]

Master, don't you want a t shirt proclaiming how much you hate
meats?

[Hank Rogers]

No sniffing, please, master!

[Cindy Hamilton]

"Comes in the form of"? Do you make your own?

I like a little horseradish with kielbasa or mettwurst. Yesterday,
my husband had a bratwurst yesterday with horseradish (probably mixed
with mustard). Horseradish and beef are great companions; mixing the
horseradish with mayo or sour cream is a delicious variant.

And, of course, my husband's cocktail sauce.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[songbird]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
...

> "Comes in the form of"? Do you make your own?

no, i've never touched a horseradish plant (as far as i
know) nor have i ever bought the pre-ground packaged kind.

> I like a little horseradish with kielbasa or mettwurst. Yesterday,
> my husband had a bratwurst yesterday with horseradish (probably mixed
> with mustard). Horseradish and beef are great companions; mixing the
> horseradish with mayo or sour cream is a delicious variant.
>
> And, of course, my husband's cocktail sauce.

i've tried it on beef and it wasn't anything that
i enjoyed.

some wasabi on sashimi i did like, but it didn't
take much. pickled ginger was better...


songbird

[GM]

" I Am A Cowardly Meatless Pussy " would do fine, lol...

--
GM

[Thomas]

Being invasive I have a plant just over a retaining wall in the neighbors yard. It gets cut down every several weeks but I can't bitch about it.
This is about 10 days since the last cut.
https://postimg.cc/Hj0XY4qT

[Bruce]

On Sat, 15 Jul 2023 17:04:49 -0700 (PDT), Thomas <cano...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Do you have a use for the leaves?

[Thomas]

It is my first so I have no idea. I have been grating fresh for 40 years and thought what the heck.

[Thomas]

The groundhogs do not eat it.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 15 Jul 2023 17:14:27 -0700 (PDT), Thomas <cano...@gmail.com>

wrote:

>On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 8:11:43 PM UTC-4, Thomas wrote:
>> On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 8:08:24 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> > On Sat, 15 Jul 2023 17:04:49 -0700 (PDT), Thomas <cano...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 4:08:42 PM UTC-4, songbird wrote:
>> > >> Michael Trew wrote:
>> > >> > On 7/14/2023 6:43 PM, songbird wrote:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> i've never made horseradish or grown it here so that's
>> > >> >> a new one on me that someone would pink it up.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I planted horseradish this year, for fun. We'll see how it goes.
>> > >> having heard how invasive it can get i won't
>> > >> be planting it. we don't normally use it that
>> > >> often anyways. what little we use mostly comes
>> > >> in the form of cocktail sauce.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> songbird
>> > >
>> > >Being invasive I have a plant just over a retaining wall in the neighbors yard. It gets cut down every several weeks but I can't bitch about it.
>> > >This is about 10 days since the last cut.
>> > >https://postimg.cc/Hj0XY4qT
>> > Do you have a use for the leaves?
>> It is my first so I have no idea. I have been grating fresh for 40 years and thought what the heck.
>The groundhogs do not eat it.

I asked my friend ChatGPT:

"Yes, horse radish leaves can be used in various ways. While the root
of the horseradish plant is commonly used for culinary purposes, the
leaves can also be utilized in certain ways:

Culinary use: Horseradish leaves can be added to salads or used as
a garnish. They have a slightly bitter and peppery flavor, similar to
the root, but milder. However, it's important to note that the leaves
are often considered less desirable for culinary use compared to the
root.

Herbal remedies: Some traditional herbal medicine practices use
horseradish leaves for their potential medicinal properties. They are
believed to have diuretic, antibacterial, and detoxifying effects.
However, it's important to consult with a healthcare professional
before using horseradish leaves for any medicinal purposes.

Composting: Like many other plant leaves, horseradish leaves can
be composted. They add organic matter to the compost pile and
contribute to nutrient-rich soil when fully decomposed.

It's worth mentioning that horseradish leaves should be used in
moderation and with caution, as they can cause skin irritation in some
individuals due to the presence of mustard oils. If you plan to use
horseradish leaves for culinary or medicinal purposes, ensure you are
familiar with their proper handling and potential effects."

[Thomas]

I will follow the advice of the groundhogs lol.

[Thomas]

why don't groundhogs eat horseradish leaves?

Groundhogs are primarily herbivorous creatures, commonly feeding on various plants and vegetation. However, their specific preferences for certain plants can vary. While they may eat a variety of leaves, such as clover, dandelions, and grass, they typically don't consume horseradish leaves. There could be a few reasons for this:

1. Taste: Horseradish leaves contain an enzyme called myrosinase, which gives them their characteristic spicy flavor. This taste may deter groundhogs, as they typically avoid strongly flavored or pungent plants.

2. Defensive chemicals: Horseradish leaves contain glucosinolates, organic compounds that serve as natural defense mechanisms for plants. These compounds can be toxic or unpleasant to many animals, including groundhogs, and could discourage them from eating horseradish leaves.

3. Nutritional content: Groundhogs have a preference for plants with high nutritional value, such as those with tender leaves and high water content. Horseradish leaves might not meet their specific dietary needs, so they may choose other, more suitable plants to eat instead.

It's important to note that every animal has its own preferences and dietary adaptations, so even within a species, individual groundhogs might exhibit slight differences in their food choices.
This message has been generated by Nova - download it for free:
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My gpt.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 15 Jul 2023 18:30:03 -0700 (PDT), Thomas <cano...@gmail.com>

LOL

[Bruce]

On Sat, 15 Jul 2023 18:34:31 -0700 (PDT), Thomas <cano...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Good answer.
.
What's great about ChatGPT and, no doubt, others, is that you can ask
follow up questions. Or you can ask for clarification if you don't
understand something. Or you can say "Can you rephrase that for me as
if I was 10 years old?"
>

[Sqwertz]

On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 20:02:55 -0700 (PDT),
itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

> On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 7:59:55 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 13:59:52 -0700 (PDT),
>> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>>>
>>> Pickled beets are great but not those awful, cooked beets.
>>>
>> Pickled beets are cooked.
>>
>> =sw
>>
> Yes, they are but they've had vinegar and different spices added to
> them to add a great flavor and then canned (water bath or under
> pressure).

It still doesn't compute, but <shrug>

-sw

[Sqwertz]

On Sat, 15 Jul 2023 09:29:10 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On 2023-07-15, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.compost> wrote:

>> And they do NOT taste like boiled dirt chunks unless they come
>> from Eastern Europe.
>
> Yes, they do.

It's about time you agreed with me on something!

-sw

[Cindy Hamilton]

The vinegar masks the flavor of geosmin.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[bruce bowser]

On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 4:57:34 PM UTC-4, songbird wrote:
> :)
>
> that is all. ok, a little butter on them.

They always give me stomach and headache trouble.

[jmcquown]

Melba's Jammin' (Barb Schaller) always referred to them as pickled dirt
chunks; I gather she would feel the same about just plain boiled beets,
even with butter.

Jill

[Bruce]

Are you still going on about that? Your life must be very boring.

[Thomas]

Aren't you the least bit afraid of being slapped?

[bruce bowser]

On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 8:59:25 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 16:57:11 -0400, songbird wrote:
>
> > :)
> >
> > that is all. ok, a little butter on them.
> >

> > songbird
> I like beets but I've never buttered them. Pickled and/or on
> salads, or just out of the can. I never buy fresh beets because
> they're about $3 for a bunch of 2-3 beets (or $2/lb without tops)
> when cans contain just as much for $.88/ea).

>
> And they do NOT taste like boiled dirt chunks unless they come
> from Eastern Europe.

Which reminds me, I haven't had veal cutlet in awhile.

[Bruce]

On Sun, 16 Jul 2023 12:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Thomas <cano...@gmail.com>

That was Greg Sorrow (except the first time).

[Bruce]

You must feel sorry for the little calves, separated from their
equally traumatised mothers.

[Thomas]

I can tell it is not the normal Bruce.

[Hank Rogers]

There's plenty of room for you both to share Queen Quown's ass.

Don't be selfish, master.

[Hank Rogers]

He does an excellent Master Druce impersonation.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

If you cannot discern the difference in taste between boiled beets vs. boiled
and then seasoned and canned beets then you should just stop eating.

[Michael Trew]

On 7/15/2023 4:01 PM, songbird wrote:
> Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 7/14/2023 6:43 PM, songbird wrote:
>>>
>>> i've never made horseradish or grown it here so that's
>>> a new one on me that someone would pink it up.
>>
>> I planted horseradish this year, for fun. We'll see how it goes.
>
> having heard how invasive it can get i won't
> be planting it. we don't normally use it that
> often anyways. what little we use mostly comes
> in the form of cocktail sauce.
>
>
> songbird

Isn't garlic also invasive? I've heard that once it takes off, it's not
easy to get rid of.

[Bruce]

Not in my experience. Maybe we ate it too fast.

[songbird]

Michael Trew wrote:
...

> Isn't garlic also invasive? I've heard that once it takes off, it's not
> easy to get rid of.

garlic is pretty easy compared to many other plants
i've had to deal with.

for hardneck garlic remove the scapes before they can
drop and when lifting it make sure you get the whole
bulb. if it is softneck garlic don't let it drop seeds
if it flowers.

if it has already spread then digging up clumps that
appear can take some work, but it doesn't spread via
bits of roots or stolons or via thousands of tiny seeds.


songbird

[Cindy Hamilton]

Meh. I have some feral garlic. I consider it lawn mower de-freshener.
I should plant some mint in the same area, just for balance.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[songbird]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
...

> Meh. I have some feral garlic. I consider it lawn mower de-freshener.
> I should plant some mint in the same area, just for balance.

then you could really call it lawnmower sauce. :)


songbird

[bruce bowser]

Feral garlic? Is that where a dog walks by and marks the territory on the wild garlic stalks?

[Michael Trew]

LOL, that didn't go too well for John's garden.

[Cindy Hamilton]

I'm not sure my 22-hp mower would care. He planted it in his
garden bed; I'd plant it in the lawn.

--
Cindy Hamilton