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Jeßus

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Jan 9, 2022, 3:26:53 PM1/9/22
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It works. Just saying, for those who wish to see Dave's posts and not
the forger.

Add message-id: {@dont-email.me} to your killfile/filter.

But may filter other users with the same content in their message-id.
(note - not all eternal-september users have the same message-ID)

Your mileage may vary depending on your newsreader. Works for Agent.

Dave Smith

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Jan 9, 2022, 3:30:50 PM1/9/22
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Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))
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This is NOT a post by Dave Smith

Dave Smith

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Jan 9, 2022, 5:26:01 PM1/9/22
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On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 22:13:09 -0000 (UTC), heyjoe <th...@is.invalid>
wrote:

>Jeßus wrote :
>
>> It works. Just saying, for those who wish to see Dave's posts and not
>> the forger.
>>
>> Add message-id: {@dont-email.me} to your killfile/filter.
>>
>> But may filter other users with the same content in their message-id.
>> (note - not all eternal-september users have the same message-ID)
>
>That, "message-id: {@dont-email.me}", will filter many posters that
>use news.eternal-september.org (E-S) including "Bruce" and his nym of
>the day, but not Bruce's forger (although it is posting from E-S).
>
>While filtering on Message-ID is simple and efficient, it's also a
>sledge hammer that can cause collateral damage. Use with caution.
>
>But then again, you won't see this message if you use that filter.

I'm not flooding the newsgroup, so I'm not the problem. My frogger's
the problem. And Jebus trick may filter all kinds of people, but not
that frogger.

Jeßus

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Jan 9, 2022, 5:29:37 PM1/9/22
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On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 22:13:09 -0000 (UTC), heyjoe <th...@is.invalid>
wrote:

>Jeßus wrote :
>
>> It works. Just saying, for those who wish to see Dave's posts and not
>> the forger.
>>
>> Add message-id: {@dont-email.me} to your killfile/filter.
>>
>> But may filter other users with the same content in their message-id.
>> (note - not all eternal-september users have the same message-ID)
>
>That, "message-id: {@dont-email.me}", will filter many posters that
>use news.eternal-september.org (E-S) including "Bruce" and his nym of
>the day, but not Bruce's forger (although it is posting from E-S).
>
>While filtering on Message-ID is simple and efficient, it's also a
>sledge hammer that can cause collateral damage. Use with caution.
>
>But then again, you won't see this message if you use that filter.

I just changed view to check for responses ;)

You're right in that it's a fairly crude way to filter, as it takes
out others such as yourself... sorry about that.

And yes, the bruce forger will still show, unless you also filter for
'@4ax.com'. Even more crude though, as it will take out most Forte
Agent users... not that many use it here.

Can you change your message ID? I changed mine many years ago in this
news client, but TBH I can't recall how I did it now.

This filtering is far from ideal but it at least certainly removes the
troll while letting Dave's posts through.

Dave Smith

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Jan 9, 2022, 6:17:56 PM1/9/22
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On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 23:04:36 -0000 (UTC), heyjoe <th...@is.invalid>
wrote:

>Jeßus wrote :
>
>> Can you change your message ID?
>
>Yes, but don't see much point in it.
>
>There are a couple of ways to filter.
>
>One is a blacklist, where you ID the poster(s) you don't want to see
>and let everybody else through. This is the most common approach, but
>amounts to "whack a mole" as you must update the filters as forgers
>shift nyms (or whatever you're filtering on).
>
>Another approach is a whitelist, where you ID the posters you want to
>see and block everybody else. You only need to update filters as
>new/wanted posters join the group. Assumes you change your "view"
>periodically to look for new/wanted posters. Few use this approach.
>
>Just out of curiousity - What news server software does
>usenet-news.net use? INN, Diablo or something else?
Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Dave Smith

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Jan 9, 2022, 6:19:23 PM1/9/22
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On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 22:13:09 -0000 (UTC), heyjoe <th...@is.invalid>
wrote:

>Jeßus wrote :
>
>> It works. Just saying, for those who wish to see Dave's posts and not
>> the forger.
>>
>> Add message-id: {@dont-email.me} to your killfile/filter.
>>
>> But may filter other users with the same content in their message-id.
>> (note - not all eternal-september users have the same message-ID)
>
>That, "message-id: {@dont-email.me}", will filter many posters that
>use news.eternal-september.org (E-S) including "Bruce" and his nym of
>the day, but not Bruce's forger (although it is posting from E-S).
>
>While filtering on Message-ID is simple and efficient, it's also a
>sledge hammer that can cause collateral damage. Use with caution.
>
>But then again, you won't see this message if you use that filter.

Dave Smith

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Jan 9, 2022, 6:19:37 PM1/9/22
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On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 23:04:36 -0000 (UTC), heyjoe <th...@is.invalid>
wrote:

>Jeßus wrote :
>
>> Can you change your message ID?
>
>Yes, but don't see much point in it.
>
>There are a couple of ways to filter.
>
>One is a blacklist, where you ID the poster(s) you don't want to see
>and let everybody else through. This is the most common approach, but
>amounts to "whack a mole" as you must update the filters as forgers
>shift nyms (or whatever you're filtering on).
>
>Another approach is a whitelist, where you ID the posters you want to
>see and block everybody else. You only need to update filters as
>new/wanted posters join the group. Assumes you change your "view"
>periodically to look for new/wanted posters. Few use this approach.

Some fundamentalist Christians use that approach to limit Internet
access for their children. Only pre-approved sites, like the Little
House On The Prairie website, are accessible.

Ed Pawlowski

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Jan 9, 2022, 7:39:34 PM1/9/22
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On 1/9/2022 5:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:


>
> I'm not flooding the newsgroup, so I'm not the problem. My frogger's
> the problem. And Jebus trick may filter all kinds of people, but not
> that frogger.
>

Yes, you are still the problem. Familiar with Root Cause Analysis. The
frogger is going to follow you no matter what ID you use. Simple, he
wants to get rid of you. You have a terrible reputation.

Dave Smith

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Jan 9, 2022, 8:20:37 PM1/9/22
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You're siding with a frogging troll now? How low can you go, Ed
Pawlowski. Just because I criticised you recently. Maybe we finally
found the real narcissist of RFC! Criticise him and you have a new
enemy!

Ed Pawlowski

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Jan 9, 2022, 9:26:42 PM1/9/22
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You are just showing how dense you are. I'm not siding with anyone, I'm
giving an honest evaluation of what is happening and why.

The fact that you criticize many people here is what sets it off. You
think you are someone special but you are not. No one here is.

I don't really give a damn what you do, back to the kill file. Unless
you change your attitude your frogger will follow you. Steve had a good
suggestion but you ignore that too.

You can't handle the truth

GM

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Jan 9, 2022, 9:38:46 PM1/9/22
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Miss Bwuthie's frogger is making her life pretty miserable (for those of you have the various
permutations killfiled)...

To her frogger, I say, "Splendid job, well - done...!!!"

As for the real Miss Bwuthie, her many posts are still the same old - same old, e.g. infantile insults about
conservatives, fat Americans, processed foods, meat - eating, etc...

She's barking into the void, lol...

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GM


Dave Smith

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Jan 9, 2022, 9:44:30 PM1/9/22
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On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 21:26:36 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 1/9/2022 8:20 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> You're siding with a frogging troll now? How low can you go, Ed
>> Pawlowski. Just because I criticised you recently. Maybe we finally
>> found the real narcissist of RFC! Criticise him and you have a new
>> enemy!
>>
>You are just showing how dense you are. I'm not siding with anyone, I'm
>giving an honest evaluation of what is happening and why.

You just have the shits with me because I called you dense. Just when
you were so happy with yourself.

>The fact that you criticize many people here is what sets it off. You
>think you are someone special but you are not. No one here is.

I'm not special at all. Maybe a bit more critical than average.

>I don't really give a damn what you do, back to the kill file. Unless
>you change your attitude your frogger will follow you. Steve had a good
>suggestion but you ignore that too.

What was that? To come back under another name and not be myself? In
other word kowtow to censorship by a couple of trolls? And this comes
from a citizen of the Land of the Free? That land with an Amendment
about freedom of speech?

Dave Smith

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Jan 9, 2022, 9:47:20 PM1/9/22
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On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 18:38:42 -0800 (PST), GM
<gregorymorr...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Miss Bwuthie's frogger is making her life pretty miserable (for those of you have the various
>permutations killfiled)...
>
>To her frogger, I say, "Splendid job, well - done...!!!"

Oh, the good people of RFC hate trolls so much! Until the trolls
attack someone they don't like. Then they love them :)

RFC: for all your double standards

Ed Pawlowski

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Jan 9, 2022, 10:15:56 PM1/9/22
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On 1/9/2022 9:44 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>
> You just have the shits with me because I called you dense. Just when
> you were so happy with yourself.

I'm still happy. I've been called worse.
>
>> The fact that you criticize many people here is what sets it off. You
>> think you are someone special but you are not. No one here is.
>
> I'm not special at all. Maybe a bit more critical than average.
>
>> I don't really give a damn what you do, back to the kill file. Unless
>> you change your attitude your frogger will follow you. Steve had a good
>> suggestion but you ignore that too.
>
> What was that? To come back under another name and not be myself? In
> other word kowtow to censorship by a couple of trolls? And this comes
> from a citizen of the Land of the Free? That land with an Amendment
> about freedom of speech?
>
You have free speech but so does your frogger. You have to admit, it is
pathetic to hide behind the name of someone else. Why can't you stand
alone? Is it because everyone will ignore you? Why do they ignore you?
Because you are critical of everyone here. If you were at a
neighborhood party, people would ignore you too if all you did was make
nasty remarks about others.

You can continue freely posing in any manner but there is no mechanism
for you to have your mommy stop someone from following you. He doesn't
like you.

Oh, we have free speech in the US but perhaps your frogger is from
another country. Maybe report it to your embassy.

Dave Smith

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Jan 9, 2022, 11:28:30 PM1/9/22
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On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 22:15:49 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 1/9/2022 9:44 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> What was that? To come back under another name and not be myself? In
>> other word kowtow to censorship by a couple of trolls? And this comes
>> from a citizen of the Land of the Free? That land with an Amendment
>> about freedom of speech?
>>
>You have free speech but so does your frogger.

What the frogger's doing doesn't fall under free speech. It's identity
theft.

>You have to admit, it is
>pathetic to hide behind the name of someone else. Why can't you stand
>alone? Is it because everyone will ignore you? Why do they ignore you?

I'm not going to try and explain it again.

>Because you are critical of everyone here. If you were at a
>neighborhood party, people would ignore you too if all you did was make
>nasty remarks about others.

Maybe, but I wouldn't be critical of everybody.

>You can continue freely posing in any manner but there is no mechanism
>for you to have your mommy stop someone from following you. He doesn't
>like you.

There are people here that I don't like. That doesn't mean I'll
pretend to be them.

>Oh, we have free speech in the US but perhaps your frogger is from
>another country. Maybe report it to your embassy.

They're all from the US.

Dave Smith

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Jan 10, 2022, 3:16:35 AM1/10/22
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Uhm, Dit is mijn kikker. Ghe Ghe Ghe.

Dave Smith

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Jan 10, 2022, 3:18:36 AM1/10/22
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Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Dave Smith

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Jan 10, 2022, 3:18:51 AM1/10/22
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Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Dave Smith

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Jan 10, 2022, 3:19:05 AM1/10/22
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Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Dave Smith

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Jan 10, 2022, 2:03:02 PM1/10/22
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On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 18:38:42 -0800 (PST), GM
<gregorymorr...@gmail.com> wrote:

This is not my frogger.

Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe.

Dave Smith

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Jan 10, 2022, 2:05:52 PM1/10/22
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Uhm, Dit is mijn kikker. Ghe Ghe Ghe.

Dave Smith

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Jan 10, 2022, 2:06:23 PM1/10/22
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Uhm, Dit is mijn kikker. Ghe Ghe Ghe.

Dave Smith

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Jan 10, 2022, 2:07:49 PM1/10/22
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 09:25:46 +1100, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 22:13:09 -0000 (UTC), heyjoe <th...@is.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>Jeßus wrote :
>>
>>> It works. Just saying, for those who wish to see Dave's posts and not
>>> the forger.
>>>
>>> Add message-id: {@dont-email.me} to your killfile/filter.
>>>
>>> But may filter other users with the same content in their message-id.
>>> (note - not all eternal-september users have the same message-ID)
>>
>>That, "message-id: {@dont-email.me}", will filter many posters that
>>use news.eternal-september.org (E-S) including "Bruce" and his nym of
>>the day, but not Bruce's forger (although it is posting from E-S).
>>
>>While filtering on Message-ID is simple and efficient, it's also a
>>sledge hammer that can cause collateral damage. Use with caution.
>>
>>But then again, you won't see this message if you use that filter.
>
>I'm not flooding the newsgroup, so I'm not the problem. My frogger's
>the problem. And Jebus trick may filter all kinds of people, but not
>that frogger.
Uhm, Dit is mijn kikker. Ghe Ghe Ghe.

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