herbs & spice

[Gary]

I finally made a run to the nearby health food store yesterday
where they sell bulk herbs and spices at a good price.
I was out of a few things and running low on others.

It's only 1/4 mile away so I just walked it for some exercise.

Great prices there and the stuff is very fresh. It's replaced
constantly. Very low cost too vs the stale grocery store spices.

I got 10 different herbs and spices. Got tons of it and it
was only $12. Note, their price per pound is about 1/5
of the grocery store prices, like McCormick, etc.

Anyway, once home, I just set the bag on my kitchen counter.
Came back into the kitchen a few minutes later and it had
a very strong smell of fresh dried herbs/spice.

Now to transfer it all from the little plastic bags into
old spice jars that I have.

Note to Carol: you should check this place out sometime.
It might be better than ordering spices/herbs.
It's local, replaced very often, and fresh as can be.
http://heritagestore.com/

[Dave Smith]

On 2017-01-05 9:59 AM, Gary wrote:
> I finally made a run to the nearby health food store yesterday
> where they sell bulk herbs and spices at a good price.
> I was out of a few things and running low on others.
>
> It's only 1/4 mile away so I just walked it for some exercise.
>
> Great prices there and the stuff is very fresh. It's replaced
> constantly. Very low cost too vs the stale grocery store spices.
>
> I got 10 different herbs and spices. Got tons of it and it
> was only $12. Note, their price per pound is about 1/5
> of the grocery store prices, like McCormick, etc.

My experience with the Bulk Barn is that it is usually at least that
much cheaper than the containers at grocery stores, though I can by
larger containers of pepper for less than the bulk stuff. Most other
things are much cheaper. One time I went there for ground ginger. A
small bottle of the stuff was IIRC $3.99 in the grocery store. I got
enough to more than fill one of those bottles for 24 cents. I use the
small stainless spice tins from Lee Valley, which hold the equivalent of
3-4 bottles of herbs and spices, and I can refill most of those for
under $1 apiece, as opposed to $2-4 that it would cost for one bottle.

[notbob]

On 2017-01-05, Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> 3-4 bottles of herbs and spices, and I can refill most of those for
> under $1 apiece, as opposed to $2-4 that it would cost for one bottle.

I've been advocating buy bulk spices at health food store, fer yrs.

I'll tell you why. I was out of bay leaves, so wanted to jes pick up
a small bottle at the sprmkt to avoid having to drive to the health
food store. I almost did it. That is, until I looked at the "per
ounce" cost on the shelf sticker and it turned out to be jes a hair
under $50.00USD per oz! It's only about $.89USD per oz, at the HFS.

Easy choice. I drove to the HFS. ;)

nb.

[graham]

I gave my Bay plant to friends on the coast and when i visit them, I
take a few branches (it grows so fast that they are always cutting it
back) and hang them to dry in my basement.
Graham

[Brooklyn1]

They don't have a herbs/spices heading... I tried putting common
herbs/spices into their Search and nothing! Seems they mainly sell
weirdo OTC pharmaceuticals.

[koko]

On Thu, 05 Jan 2017 09:59:03 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

I made a spice run recently also. I had to replace or replenish some
of my Indian spices. I'm afraid I didn't exercise as much restraint as
you did though, I came close to breaking the bank ;-)

Spices, lentils, dal and more
https://flic.kr/p/QnJdm9
and some cookware
https://flic.kr/p/QLoXfD

I had to rearrange and make some room in my tiny kitchen for the
additions. I pulled out my spice boxes, emptied the spice drawer and
threw out old spices and replenished the spices I was out of. It was a
huge project but I'm all reorganized and have everything handy again.
https://flic.kr/p/QLqcFk

Glad I don't have to do that again any time soon. ;-)

koko

--

Food is our common ground, a universal experience
James Beard

[U.S. Janet B.]

I'm out of cloves and can't get to the store It's been so cold, dry
and snowy here that the indoor heat really does a number on nasal
passages and eyes. I've been simmering orange peel, cloves and
cinnamon sticks on the stove top to return some moisture to the air --
also smells good.
Janet US

[koko]

On Thu, 05 Jan 2017 12:56:31 -0700, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>

That sounds wonderful. I think I'll try that sometime.

[Gary]

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> They don't have a herbs/spices heading... I tried putting common
> herbs/spices into their Search and nothing! Seems they mainly sell
> weirdo OTC pharmaceuticals.

Here's a better web page:
http://heritagenaturalmarket.com/food-store/2714654

[Brooklyn1]

I still don't see a link to herbs and spices.
Post the herbs and spices link, and do they ship orders?
I suppose I could phone and ask but I figured you'd supply that info.

[jmcquown]

Chances are it's strictly a local business that doesn't ship to other
states. Local businesses often do have web sites, you know. :) Carol
(cshenk) seems to live close enough to Gary visit the store in person if
she's interested.

Jill

[jmcquown]

Sez U, who *hz* a HFS nearby. ;)

Jill

[Alan Holbrook]

Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote in news:586E5F37...@att.net:

> I finally made a run to the nearby health food store yesterday
> where they sell bulk herbs and spices at a good price.
> I was out of a few things and running low on others.
>

What's the shelf life of the various herbs and spices? Having to discard a
good portion of stuff because its lost its potency over time would have
some effect on the actual price.

[Gary]

Alan Holbrook wrote:

>
> Gary wrote:
> > I finally made a run to the nearby health food store yesterday
> > where they sell bulk herbs and spices at a good price.
> > I was out of a few things and running low on others.
> >
> What's the shelf life of the various herbs and spices? Having to discard a
> good portion of stuff because its lost its potency over time would have
> some effect on the actual price.

I hope I was using the right term when I say 'bulk selling'.

Each spice/herb is in a gallon size wide mouth jug.
It's self serve. Scoop out as much as you want into
the provided plastic bags, twist tie it and label it.
(honor system there).

The beauty of bulk selling is that the customer gets to choose the
amount. In my case, I often buy *less* than a standard amount. I just
scoop out as much as I'll need in the next few months.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Most herbs are good for about a year. You can save money per ounce
buying larger quantities, but I have tossed some that lost flavor. '

Spices tend to last longer, especially if not ground until used..

[Gary]

Luckily, I do! And it's only about 1/4 mile away. No need to drive there
in nice weather. :)

[Brooklyn1]

Alan Holbrook wrote:
>
>What's the shelf life of the various herbs and spices?

Depends on several factors; which ones, whether whole or ground, and
where/how stored. The most important longiviety feature is from where
purchased. Many merchants, especially those selling bulk, take no
precautions for maintaining freshness, their products are stored in
large open cannisters and are handled by the public with unwashed
hands... like feeding from a gross salad bar.. those products are
already damaged when purchased. The reliable merchants store their
products in controlled humidors and are handled/processed/packaged by
trained employees.

>Having to discard a good portion of stuff because its lost its potency
>over time would have some effect on the actual price.

And negatively affect the dish in which they're used, therefore
wasting all other ingredients in the dish. I've found that with
purchasing herbs and spices "You get what you pay for" is a maxim to
believe. The few pennies more for quality product is well worth the
expense, store in tight lidded glass jars away from heat and light,
and freeze excess.

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 12:09:11 -0500, Brooklyn1
<grave...@verizon.net> wrote:

>Alan Holbrook wrote:
>>
>>What's the shelf life of the various herbs and spices?
>
>Depends on several factors; which ones, whether whole or ground, and
>where/how stored. The most important longiviety feature is from where
>purchased. Many merchants, especially those selling bulk, take no
>precautions for maintaining freshness, their products are stored in
>large open cannisters and are handled by the public with unwashed
>hands... like feeding from a gross salad bar.. those products are
>already damaged when purchased. The reliable merchants store their
>products in controlled humidors and are handled/processed/packaged by
>trained employees.
>

Again, I have to ask. Where the heck do you shop that you are exposed
to such awful conditions for food? Apparently the hinterland of New
York is uncivilized.

>>Having to discard a good portion of stuff because its lost its potency
>>over time would have some effect on the actual price.
>
>And negatively affect the dish in which they're used, therefore
>wasting all other ingredients in the dish. I've found that with
>purchasing herbs and spices "You get what you pay for" is a maxim to
>believe. The few pennies more for quality product is well worth the
>expense, store in tight lidded glass jars away from heat and light,
>and freeze excess.

Herbs? I've only heard you say which herbs taste like the underside
of your lawnmower. I don't believe you use herbs . . . spices yes,
but no herbs.
Janet US

[notbob]

On 2017-01-06, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
>
> The beauty of bulk selling is......

THere can be a downside, too.

I recall buying some bulk spices from Whole Paycheck. Turns out some
of those bulk spices had weevils. I hadda toss my entire spice cache,
and other items, as the weevils quickly spread throughout my
cupboards.

nb

[notbob]

On 2017-01-06, U.S Janet B <J...@nospam.com> wrote:

>>
> Again, I have to ask. Where the heck do you shop that you are exposed
> to such awful conditions for food?

Howzabout Whole Foods!

[U.S. Janet B.]

You are judging a whole brand forever because of one incident. You
could have gotten weevils in a commercial package. I once brought
home a 50 pound bag of name brand dog food that was visibly moving
with bugs and worms. I took it back to the store. The buggy food has
never happened again with that brand or that store.
Janet US

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 9:00:08 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
>
> I finally made a run to the nearby health food store yesterday
> where they sell bulk herbs and spices at a good price.
>

> Great prices there and the stuff is very fresh. It's replaced
> constantly. Very low cost too vs the stale grocery store spices.
>

Hmmmmm, the spices I get at the grocery are not stale as they are
packed in sealed bottles.

>
> Anyway, once home, I just set the bag on my kitchen counter.
> Came back into the kitchen a few minutes later and it had
> a very strong smell of fresh dried herbs/spice.
>

Yes, it would smell quite strong as what you brought home
was in a bag and not sealed from air such as a bottle.

>
> Now to transfer it all from the little plastic bags into
> old spice jars that I have.
>

Glad you are transferring your spices to bottles and if
you have one of those vacuum sealers that would be great
for any extra spices.

[notbob]

On 2017-01-06, U.S Janet B <J...@nospam.com> wrote:

> You are judging a whole brand forever because of one incident.

More than one.

You jes wanna argue. Have fun. ;)

nb

[21bla...@gmail.com]

i never throw a spice out, frugal me...

yes,
spice may lose some over the years, but
it still has some/most of what you want...

smell it before throwing it away;
you may still get most of what you want, in terms of flavor, aroma, etc

marc

[Brooklyn1]

On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 10:39:27 -0700, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 12:09:11 -0500, Brooklyn1
><grave...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>Alan Holbrook wrote:
>>>
>>>What's the shelf life of the various herbs and spices?
>>
>>Depends on several factors; which ones, whether whole or ground, and
>>where/how stored. The most important longiviety feature is from where
>>purchased. Many merchants, especially those selling bulk, take no
>>precautions for maintaining freshness, their products are stored in
>>large open cannisters and are handled by the public with unwashed
>>hands... like feeding from a gross salad bar.. those products are
>>already damaged when purchased. The reliable merchants store their
>>products in controlled humidors and are handled/processed/packaged by
>>trained employees.
>>
>Again, I have to ask. Where the heck do you shop that you are exposed
>to such awful conditions for food? Apparently the hinterland of New
>York is uncivilized.

Anywhere selling bulk where customers help themselves is highly
unsanitary. I'll buy produce where folks help themselves because
produce is easy to wash, but herbs and spices can't be washed.

>>>Having to discard a good portion of stuff because its lost its potency
>>>over time would have some effect on the actual price.
>>
>>And negatively affect the dish in which they're used, therefore
>>wasting all other ingredients in the dish. I've found that with
>>purchasing herbs and spices "You get what you pay for" is a maxim to
>>believe. The few pennies more for quality product is well worth the
>>expense, store in tight lidded glass jars away from heat and light,
>>and freeze excess.
>
>Herbs? I've only heard you say which herbs taste like the underside
>of your lawnmower.

That would be mint, I have patches of peppermint and spearmint in my
lawn, I despise mint... I won't use mint toothpaste, my favorite is
Tom's of Maine fennel flavored.

>I don't believe you use herbs . . . spices yes,
>but no herbs.
>Janet US

I use lots of herbs but I won't buy them from a public bulk bin where
the entire world dips in with their scuzzy paws... I don't want those
even for free. I buy institutional sizes from BJs and some blends
from Penzys that I can't buy anywhere else. I don't comprehend the
logic of buying a $20 roast and sprinkling it with four cents worth of
stale scuzzy bulk spices.

[Brooklyn1]

WTF are you mumbling about, smelling pussy before you dive in?

[U.S. Janet B.]

None of my shops have bulk that allows dipping. It's all drop down
from a release door into a bag you hold beneath the door. You live
around some pretty old fashioned stuff. I usually have to wait behind
the employee that is refilling the bulk bins. Sometimes they are
filled twice daily. My shops know their customers well and don't
stock stuff that doesn't move.
Janet US

[Alan Holbrook]

U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com> wrote in
news:5dlv6cdpqnalbi9kq...@4ax.com:

>
>>
> Again, I have to ask. Where the heck do you shop that you are exposed
> to such awful conditions for food? Apparently the hinterland of New
> York is uncivilized.
>
>

Doesn't happen often, but this time I completely agree with Sheldon.
People from good families, who went to the best schools, who have Ph.D.s,
and are on the boards of directors of national charities still don't always
wash their hands after using the bathroom. And their snotty-nosed brats
who open the bins and stick their hands into the product may not have been
sanitized before Mommy took them shopping.

As far as hinterlands being uncivilized, my first wife's family were West
Virginia hillbillies living in a "holler" near a town that was very upscale
because it had a traffic light, and they were amongst the cleanest people I
ever met.

[Dave Smith]

On 2017-01-07 1:47 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:

> None of my shops have bulk that allows dipping. It's all drop down
> from a release door into a bag you hold beneath the door.

The bulk sales around here tend to have small bins with scoops. The
only ones that are drop down are for coffee.

> You live
> around some pretty old fashioned stuff. I usually have to wait behind
> the employee that is refilling the bulk bins. Sometimes they are
> filled twice daily. My shops know their customers well and don't
> stock stuff that doesn't move.
>

I know they are constantly re-filling the bins in the Bulk Barn because
there are always one or two people doing that when I am there. Some of
the bins for things like flour and sugar look huge, but they have false
bottoms on them. What looks big enough to hold 200 lb of product might
only have 20 lb.

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 10:24:15 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2017-01-07 1:47 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> None of my shops have bulk that allows dipping. It's all drop down
>> from a release door into a bag you hold beneath the door.
>
>The bulk sales around here tend to have small bins with scoops. The
>only ones that are drop down are for coffee.
>

snip

candy, nuts, rice, beans, pasta, coffee, snack mix, breakfast cereal,
oats and breakfast grains, assorted grain, sugar, I know there are
more.

> > You live
>> around some pretty old fashioned stuff. I usually have to wait behind
>> the employee that is refilling the bulk bins. Sometimes they are
>> filled twice daily. My shops know their customers well and don't
>> stock stuff that doesn't move.
>>
>
>I know they are constantly re-filling the bins in the Bulk Barn because
>there are always one or two people doing that when I am there. Some of
>the bins for things like flour and sugar look huge, but they have false
>bottoms on them. What looks big enough to hold 200 lb of product might
>only have 20 lb.
>

That's because they want you to scoop, not crawl into the container.
Janet US

[Dave Smith]

On 2017-01-07 11:04 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 10:24:15 -0500, Dave Smith

>> I know they are constantly re-filling the bins in the Bulk Barn because
>> there are always one or two people doing that when I am there. Some of
>> the bins for things like flour and sugar look huge, but they have false
>> bottoms on them. What looks big enough to hold 200 lb of product might
>> only have 20 lb.
>>
> That's because they want you to scoop, not crawl into the container.

Or fall in.

[Brooklyn1]

On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 23:47:27 -0700, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>

I've never seen such a contraption, all I've seen anywhere are like 1
gallon slant top cannisters with a small scoop. The BJs I shop has a
large section that contains institutional sized containers of spices
and herbs, all sealed with tamper proof lids, those are what I buy and
keep in my freezer for refilling my small jars. Buying these costs
about half Penzey's prices and they have a large turn over as many
restaurants buy there:
http://i65.tinypic.com/2qvdx84.jpg
The tall rectangular containers don't waste storage space.

[Brooklyn1]

On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 01:52:12 -0600, Alan Holbrook <no.t...@lets.not>
wrote:

Very true, I've found inner city people have the poorest personal
hygiene, they're used to living all crowded together like lab rats.
There are no open bin bulk spices sold anywhere near where I live, the
big box stores I shop here in the boondocks sell bulk herbs and spices
this way, all in tamperproof containers:
http://i65.tinypic.com/2qvdx84.jpg

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:39:00 -0500, Brooklyn1

However, one great big caveat . . . you can't beat Penzey's for the
tastiest, largest, freshest smelling bay leaves.
Janet US

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 12:50:24 -0500, Brooklyn1
<grave...@verizon.net> wrote:
snip the

>big box stores I shop here in the boondocks sell bulk herbs and spices
>this way, all in tamperproof containers:
>http://i65.tinypic.com/2qvdx84.jpg

I can get those containers at Costco and Cash and Carry. I get
peppercorns, chili powder and garlic powder that way just because they
are more convenient for my frequent use. I wouldn't get oregano or
cloves etc., in a container like that. They'd get old before I used
it all. Dried parsley and dill have no flavor. I freeze my own fresh
each year.
Janet US

[Cindy Hamilton]

Even the little Middle Eastern market across from my office has
these:

<http://www.canstockphoto.com/bulk-food-dispenser-8504799.html>

Cindy Hamilton

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 1/7/2017 2:20 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:

>> Buying these costs
>> about half Penzey's prices and they have a large turn over as many
>> restaurants buy there:
>> http://i65.tinypic.com/2qvdx84.jpg
>> The tall rectangular containers don't waste storage space.
>
> However, one great big caveat . . . you can't beat Penzey's for the
> tastiest, largest, freshest smelling bay leaves.
> Janet US
>

We do buy some of the containers and have good results with garlic
powder, onion powder, but 75% of what we buy is Penzeys. We know it is
as good as available anywhere.

[dsi1]

On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 5:00:08 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> I finally made a run to the nearby health food store yesterday

> where they sell bulk herbs and spices at a good price.
> I was out of a few things and running low on others.
>

> It's only 1/4 mile away so I just walked it for some exercise.

>
> Great prices there and the stuff is very fresh. It's replaced
> constantly. Very low cost too vs the stale grocery store spices.
>

> I got 10 different herbs and spices. Got tons of it and it
> was only $12. Note, their price per pound is about 1/5
> of the grocery store prices, like McCormick, etc.

>
> Anyway, once home, I just set the bag on my kitchen counter.
> Came back into the kitchen a few minutes later and it had
> a very strong smell of fresh dried herbs/spice.
>

> Now to transfer it all from the little plastic bags into
> old spice jars that I have.
>

> Note to Carol: you should check this place out sometime.
> It might be better than ordering spices/herbs.
> It's local, replaced very often, and fresh as can be.
> http://heritagestore.com/

I'm a happy Hawaiian cook. We never learned to cook with very many herbs and spices. If I want to make spaghetti sauce, I'll reach for a big container of Spaghetti Sauce seasoning. If I want to make pizza, I use the big container of Spaghetti Sauce seasoning. I don't know what the heck is in that big container but it tastes Italianish. To make chili, I use cumin and SS seasoning. In that case, it tastes Mexicanish.

[cshenk]

U.S. Janet B. wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Maybe, but I no longer shop there after their highly unprofessional use
of customer emails accounts (there to track shippage) to call 50% of
the USA 'racists' if they voted a particular way in the presidential
election. They didnt do that once, they did it 3 times before I cut
all services.

I am happy with Savory Spices now.

--

[cshenk]

dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Gary, we have. WAY TOO LIMITED stock for us at that store. It's been
checked out already. DS1, noted that in Hawaii, spices are not at the
forfront much.

--

[notbob]

On 2017-01-07, Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> I know they are constantly re-filling the bins in the Bulk

> Barn......

I've never seen a "barn" worthy of buying much of anything. Usta be a
Drug Barn, Booze Barn, etc, in CA. They're all gone. ;)

nb

[U.S. Janet B.]

you explained your racist views last month on this subject. Once you
alerted me to it I went out and ordered a bunch of Christmas presents
from Penzeys.
Thank you again.
Janet US

[U.S. Janet B.]

Yup. that's very much like what my stores have.
Janet US

[dsi1]

Most Asians ain't into herbs and spices - except the Chinese. They go hog wild with herbs, spices, barks, fungus, preserved fruits, meats, eggs. My guess is that their culture did not originate on Earth.

[cshenk]

Janet, it was not my racist views. Penzey's said unless you voted for
a particualr presidental candidate, you were a racist. If you are
happy working with a company that uses the collective email for
tracking orders, in an unprofessional way like that, then by all means,
have joy with them. Me, I not only objected to the politcal stance
(regardless of who I or any voted for, it was rude). but I objected to
the unprofessional use of my email account.




--

[Bruce]

On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 14:38:14 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Most Asians ain't into herbs and spices - except the Chinese.

Huh? Indonesians and Malaysians are very much into herbs and spices:
laos, ketumbar, djintan, kunjit, sereh, galangal, etc. Indians are
also very much into herbs and spices.

[sf]

Her point is that the big containers stay fresh if it's something you
use often. Seems like a waste of money to keep replacing tiny
containers of granulated garlic at Penzy's sizes and prices. Just
looked at Costco online price and it's not worth that either. 18 oz
is around $5 inside the store. I was there yesterday. Looked at that
product and wasn't shocked by the price. For fresh French Thyme, I go
to Trader Joe's and it's $2... oregano is the same price.

I am not a bay leaf lover, so I don't care. I can buy fresh or buy it
dried in a blister pack at the Latino market. It's the same to me.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

[sf]

On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 15:36:24 -0700, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>
wrote:

> Yup. that's very much like what my stores have.
> Janet US

I have all sorts here. Whole Foods has double rows of those
dispensers. Safeway has them on top and bins on the bottom row.
Rainbow has HUGE apothecary jars (and the contents are refilled often
- they get a LOT of business).

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:465ae193-572e-4057...@googlegroups.com...

===========

I think you might know that I don't use spices. I guess I am not Chinese
...


--
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[Gary]

Ophelia wrote:

>
> "dsi1" wrote:
> Most Asians ain't into herbs and spices - except the Chinese. They go hog
> wild with herbs, spices, barks, fungus, preserved fruits, meats, eggs. My
> guess is that their culture did not originate on Earth.
>
> ===========
>
> I think you might know that I don't use spices. I guess I am not Chinese
> ...

You don't use spices? How about herbs? wth?

[Ophelia]

"Gary" wrote in message news:587230BF...@att.net...

===

Oh yes, I grow and cook with herbs:))



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[Dave Smith]

On 2017-01-08 1:51 AM, sf wrote:

> Her point is that the big containers stay fresh if it's something you
> use often. Seems like a waste of money to keep replacing tiny
> containers of granulated garlic at Penzy's sizes and prices. Just
> looked at Costco online price and it's not worth that either. 18 oz
> is around $5 inside the store.

I store my herbs and spices in stainless canisters from Lee Valley,
which hold 3.3 fluid oz. I replace granulated garlic frequently
because it hardens into chunks after a while. I can buy enough at Bulk
Barn to refill the canister for about 50 cents.

[Brooklyn1]

On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 22:51:37 -0800, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 15:03:25 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.net> wrote:
>
>> On 1/7/2017 2:20 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> >> Buying these costs
>> >> about half Penzey's prices and they have a large turn over as many
>> >> restaurants buy there:
>> >> http://i65.tinypic.com/2qvdx84.jpg
>> >> The tall rectangular containers don't waste storage space.
>> >
>> > However, one great big caveat . . . you can't beat Penzey's for the
>> > tastiest, largest, freshest smelling bay leaves.
>> > Janet US
>> >
>>
>> We do buy some of the containers and have good results with garlic
>> powder, onion powder, but 75% of what we buy is Penzeys. We know it is
>> as good as available anywhere.
>
>Her point is that the big containers stay fresh if it's something you
>use often.

I keep those large containers in the freezr, they keep fresh for many
years... I've never had any go bad before using it all.

>Seems like a waste of money to keep replacing tiny
>containers of granulated garlic at Penzy's sizes and prices.

Penzeys sells granulated garlic in several sizes up to one pound,
which is how I used to buy it. Their packaging is better than those
rectangular plastic containers, Penzeys uses zip-locs made of
something like mylar, takes very little freezer space and collapses
smaller as it's used. However now I buy the large containers at BJs
as it's half Penzeys price and I think it's just as good. I've never
been in a Penzeys store, I've always ordered by phone. Penzeys prices
used to be reasonable but now they are outrageous... I suppose that
occurs once a company makes a name for itself.

[Brooklyn1]

On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 10:23:22 -0000, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Maybe because you're a frugal Scot... my ex MIL was very frugal, she
never had any herbs/spices, in fact she didn't even have s n'p. There
was no coffee either, and she could get ten cups from one tea bag. I'd
tell her to keep tea bags in her bra and she'd go up a few sizes. lol

[Brooklyn1]

I buy granulated garlic by the pound and keep it frozen, I keep
refilling a very small jar that sits in my spice cupboard. I've never
had any clumping, I put those dessicant capsules one finds in medicine
bottles in the container. Those ss containers from Lee Valley are
cute but they definitely don't seal well, they were designed for
storing small parts... I use small jars with screw on caps, and if
needed I add a gasket... rubberized cork gasket material is cheap at
any auto supply store.

[Ophelia]

"Brooklyn1" wrote in message
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Well, actually, I am not a Scot ... <g>



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[U.S. Janet B.]

On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 11:10:28 -0500, Brooklyn1
<grave...@verizon.net> wrote:
snip
>

>I keep those large containers in the freezr, they keep fresh for many
>years... I've never had any go bad before using it all.
>

snip
herbs and spices don't go bad, they just go
Janet US

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 10:23:22 -0000, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

snip

>
>I think you might know that I don't use spices. I guess I am not Chinese
>...

no cinnamon or cloves or the like?
Janet US

[Cindy Hamilton]

I had some Aleppo pepper get moldy. I keep it in the freezer now.

Cindy Hamilton

[graham]

I store mine in the freezer. They seem to keep well that way.

[Ophelia]

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
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===

No:( He won't eat them. Although I have to say that cinnamon is a big no
no for either of us! I don't mind some mild spices but I don't use them for
obvious reasons <g>

I make enough good food to please us both, so it isn't so important:)

I do love herbs though:)

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[jmcquown]

On 1/8/2017 11:10 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> I've never been in a Penzeys store, I've always ordered by phone.

Walking into a Penzey's store is a real treat! They opened one in
Germantown, TN which is an incorporated city right outside the Memphis
city limit. The OP was talking about how the herbs and spices scented
his kitchen. Penzey's stores smell heavenly! :) I agree with you about
the price. They were never exactly cheap but they have definitely gone
through the roof. I don't order from them anymore.

Jill

[notbob]

On 2017-01-12, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:

> I agree with you about the price. They were never exactly cheap but
> they have definitely gone through the roof. I don't order from them
> anymore.

They were never that great, now they totally suck!

The do NOT even carry Sichuan peppers, anymore. Jes Sichuan Pepper
Salt, WTF that is. 8|

nb

[U.S. Janet B.]

It's my understanding that there is some sort of government import
restriction regarding heat treating? Something like that.
Janet US

[jmcquown]

Probably so, Janet. Then again, I've never been much interested in
Sichuan pepper.

Jill

[Brooklyn1]

For the past couple of years I only order a few of their blends
because I can't buy them elsewhere. There's a Penzeys store in the
Albany mall but I've never been and and have no desire. If their
stores smell of spices it's only because they are opening packages and
sprinkling them about, when properly packaged there would be no smell.
Years ago when I placed an order there would be a few whole loose
spices in the carton making is smell like a pomander but they no
longer do that, now their cartons only smell of cardboard. Perhaps
the post office complained that the aroma interfered with the
drug/bomb sniffing dogs.

[Brooklyn1]

notbob wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I agree with you about the price. They were never exactly cheap but
>> they have definitely gone through the roof. I don't order from them
>> anymore.
>
>They were never that great, now they totally suck!
>
>The do NOT even carry Sichuan peppers, anymore. Jes Sichuan Pepper
>Salt, WTF that is. 8|

Szechuan peppercorns is still listed in their catalogue, still offered
at their web site but you need to spell it correctly:
https://www.penzeys.com/online-catalog/szechuan-peppercorns/c-24/p-1415/pd-s
Penzeys products are excellent however their prices have gone up out
of sight... I also don't care to be bombarded with their ultra liberal
political views regarding faggots.

[notbob]

On 2017-01-12, U.S Janet B <J...@nospam.com> wrote:

> It's my understanding that there is some sort of government import
> restriction regarding heat treating? Something like that.

They restricted importing Sezchuan peppers cuz they feared it would
introduce a citrus canker and wipe out the orange juice industry. That
restriction was revoked over 10 yrs ago.

Still, places like San Francisco Spice Company continued to substitute
black pepper for Sezchuan peppers (which aren't really peppers) in
their 5 spice blend. Prolly cuz black ppr is cheaper. 8|

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sichuan_pepper#U.S._import_ban

nb

[jmcquown]

On 1/12/2017 12:00 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>>> I've never been in a Penzeys store, I've always ordered by phone.
>>
>> Walking into a Penzey's store is a real treat! They opened one in
>> Germantown, TN which is an incorporated city right outside the Memphis
>> city limit. The OP was talking about how the herbs and spices scented
>> his kitchen. Penzey's stores smell heavenly! :) I agree with you about
>> the price. They were never exactly cheap but they have definitely gone
>> through the roof. I don't order from them anymore.
>
> For the past couple of years I only order a few of their blends
> because I can't buy them elsewhere. There's a Penzeys store in the
> Albany mall but I've never been and and have no desire. If their
> stores smell of spices it's only because they are opening packages and
> sprinkling them about,

That's part of the charm. Yes, they set out little baskets and jars of
fresh herbs and spices. It's marketing. It's like walking into a
flower shop except these are herbs and spices.

It's designed to entice. It smelled great on purpose. Sorry if you
don't like that sort of thing.

Jill

[Brooklyn1]

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:08:50 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 1/12/2017 12:00 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've never been in a Penzeys store, I've always ordered by phone.
>>>
>>> Walking into a Penzey's store is a real treat! They opened one in
>>> Germantown, TN which is an incorporated city right outside the Memphis
>>> city limit. The OP was talking about how the herbs and spices scented
>>> his kitchen. Penzey's stores smell heavenly! :) I agree with you about
>>> the price. They were never exactly cheap but they have definitely gone
>>> through the roof. I don't order from them anymore.
>>
>> For the past couple of years I only order a few of their blends
>> because I can't buy them elsewhere. There's a Penzeys store in the
>> Albany mall but I've never been and and have no desire. If their
>> stores smell of spices it's only because they are opening packages and
>> sprinkling them about,
>
>That's part of the charm. Yes, they set out little baskets and jars of
>fresh herbs and spices. It's marketing. It's like walking into a
>flower shop except these are herbs and spices.
>
>It's designed to entice. It smelled great on purpose. Sorry if you
>don't like that sort of thing.

I didn't say I don't like it... it's simply not going to lure me to
drive the 60 mile round trip to see their store. I've already got
plenty of their spices if I feel like sniffing. Besides when phoning
in my order directly to their main plant I get fresher product than
from their stores, who knows how long it's sitting there. They also
send along lots of samples, I always ask for what samples they have
and I choose the ones I will use... last time they had cilantro as one
of their samples, I refused that one as to me it tastes like soap. But
they sent me four samples, in very nice glass jars with screw tops;
minced garlic 0.4 oz, aleppo pepper 0.8 oz, pizza seasoning 0.5 oz.
salsa & pico 1.7 oz. I already used up the pizza seasoning, I like it
better than their Italian herb blend because it contains no rosemary
(pinesol). Their salsa & pico is excellent sprinkled on tomatoes.

[Gary]

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> it contains no rosemary (pinesol).

lol! I have to agree with you there, sheldon.
It really does taste that way. I never use it.
sadly, that's the one herb that grows best here.

Also, if you use it dried, it's like little splinter sticks
in your food. Like dried up pine needles. Better to grind it up
a bit if you insist on using it.

Again though, I still have some but probably won't use it.

[sf]

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:08:50 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

> That's part of the charm. Yes, they set out little baskets and jars of
> fresh herbs and spices. It's marketing. It's like walking into a
> flower shop except these are herbs and spices.

That's why I love old fashioned candle shops too. Love the aroma.

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 09:59:45 -0800, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:08:50 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>
>> That's part of the charm. Yes, they set out little baskets and jars of
>> fresh herbs and spices. It's marketing. It's like walking into a
>> flower shop except these are herbs and spices.
>
>That's why I love old fashioned candle shops too. Love the aroma.

candle shops, bakery shops, spice shops, it's all good for the
senses.
Janet US

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 12:59:46 PM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:08:50 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> > That's part of the charm. Yes, they set out little baskets and jars of
> > fresh herbs and spices. It's marketing. It's like walking into a
> > flower shop except these are herbs and spices.
>
> That's why I love old fashioned candle shops too. Love the aroma.

Scented candles are one of the things I'll outlaw when
I'm Queen of the Universe.

Cindy Hamilton

[Sqwerts]

On 1/12/2017 12:23 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I painstakenly remove all the seeds before I use them
> (PITA).

You pull turds out your arse and suck on them.

[Sqwerts]

On 1/13/2017 12:47 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> it's all good for the
> senses.
> Janet US

Why did you post a pic of your daughter being groped by Klintoon and
pretend it was YOU?

[Jeßus]

Thanks! I hate scented candles too.

[lucreti...@fl.it]

On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:59:03 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I'll vote for you!

[Sqwerts]

On 1/13/2017 8:48 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> last time they had cilantro as one
> of their samples, I refused that one as to me it tastes like soap.

U have the taste buds of a fucking Cossack!

[Dave Smith]

Please extend that ban to perfume and aftershave that can be smelled
more than 4 feet from the person wearing it.

[Jeßus]

Agreed.

[Sqwerts]

On 1/12/2017 7:45 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> Walking into a Penzey's store is a real treat!

They're scumsucking leftarded shitbags!

No wonder you love them.

[Sqwerts]

On 1/13/2017 12:59 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> Scented candles are one of the things I'll outlaw when
> I'm Queen of the Universe.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

You'll be too busy hosing your rancid twat with scented douche!

[Ophelia]

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
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====================

Same here. I can't bear the smell:(

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[Sqwerts]

On 1/13/2017 1:20 PM, Je�us wrote:
> I hate scented candles too.

You slaughter innocent rabbits, you filthy killer!

DROP DEAD.

[Sqwerts]

On 1/13/2017 1:42 PM, lucreti...@fl.it wrote:
>> I'm Queen of the Universe.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
> I'll vote for you!

You're a sycophantic old cuntdrip.

[Sqwerts]

On 1/13/2017 1:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> Please extend that ban to perfume and aftershave

Please stop being a fucking fascist!

[jmcquown]

I hear ya. I'm not willing to drive to Yemassee, SC just to look at
Sabieter knives. :)

> Besides when phoning
> in my order directly to their main plant I get fresher product than
> from their stores, who knows how long it's sitting there. They also
> send along lots of samples, I always ask for what samples they have
> and I choose the ones I will use... last time they had cilantro as one
> of their samples, I refused that one as to me it tastes like soap. But
> they sent me four samples, in very nice glass jars with screw tops;
> minced garlic 0.4 oz, aleppo pepper 0.8 oz, pizza seasoning 0.5 oz.
> salsa & pico 1.7 oz. I already used up the pizza seasoning, I like it
> better than their Italian herb blend because it contains no rosemary
> (pinesol). Their salsa & pico is excellent sprinkled on tomatoes.
>

I like the Penzey's Parisien blend and the Fines Herbes blend, both are
good in egg dishes. I like to add the Fines Herbes to coating for baked
chicken thighs.

Jill

[jmcquown]

On 1/13/2017 3:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Please extend that ban to perfume and aftershave that can be smelled
> more than 4 feet from the person wearing it.
>

Gawd! Even worse if the person wearing it also uses the matching
scented soap and/or body lotion. Overkill! Try not to wind up in an
elevator with them.

Jill

[sf]

On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:56:39 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Anything you can smell 4 feet away, including food, should be banned.

[Bruce]

On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 17:11:54 -0800, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:56:39 -0500, Dave Smith
><adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2017-01-13 2:59 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 12:59:46 PM UTC-5, sf wrote:
>> flower shop except these are herbs and spices.
>> >>
>> >> That's why I love old fashioned candle shops too. Love the aroma.
>> >
>> > Scented candles are one of the things I'll outlaw when
>> > I'm Queen of the Universe.
>> >
>>
>> Please extend that ban to perfume and aftershave that can be smelled
>> more than 4 feet from the person wearing it.
>
>Anything you can smell 4 feet away, including food, should be banned.

Yay, that's the end of the barbecue!

[notbob]

On 2017-01-14, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:

> scented soap and/or body lotion. Overkill! Try not to wind up in an
> elevator with them.

....or even in that same elevator thirty minutes later!

I knew one lady who wore that "ancient granny perfume", the kind they
usta sell at the five-n'-dime fer 10¢/qt. I always knew when she'd
come in, early. ;)

nb

[jmcquown]

On 1/14/2017 10:40 AM, l not -l wrote:

> Jungle Gardenia??
>
That's one. Pretty much anything heavily floral is off putting.

Remember Jean Nate? Citrus? No thank you. I do use lemons and other
citrus when I cook but I don't want to smell like fruit.

A neighbor gave me some peach scented bath products as a thank you for
cat-sitting. They make a nice little display in a basket on the toilet
tank in the guest bathroom. I don't use them. I really don't want to
smell like peaches. LOL

Jill

[Bruce]

On 14 Jan 2017 13:47:03 GMT, notbob <not...@nothome.com> wrote:

>On 2017-01-14, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> scented soap and/or body lotion. Overkill! Try not to wind up in an
>> elevator with them.
>
>....or even in that same elevator thirty minutes later!

According to the former Music Director of the Dallas Symphony
Orchestra, a man should never step into an elevator with a American
woman he doesn't know. If he looks at her wrong because he's got
something in his eye, she'll sue him for sexual harrassment and there
won't be a witness to prove his innocence.

[Brooklyn1]

On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:29:26 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 1/14/2017 10:40 AM, l not -l wrote:
>> On 14-Jan-2017, notbob <not...@nothome.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2017-01-14, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> scented soap and/or body lotion. Overkill! Try not to wind up in an
>>>> elevator with them.
>>>
>>> ....or even in that same elevator thirty minutes later!
>>>
>>> I knew one lady who wore that "ancient granny perfume", the kind they
>>> usta sell at the five-n'-dime fer 10｢/qt. I always knew when she'd
>>> come in, early. ;)
>>>
>>> nb
>> Jungle Gardenia??
>>
>That's one. Pretty much anything heavily floral is off putting.
>
>Remember Jean Nate? Citrus? No thank you. I do use lemons and other

>citrus when I cook but I don't want to smell like fruits.

Hehe, then stay away from gay bars... lol

This is my fragrance of choice, I use it sparingly and have never
received any complaints. I've been using this for more than fifty
years. I like all the pinaud products but this is my favorite... and
real women love it:
https://www.amazon.com/Pinaud-Clubman-Virgin-Island-Bay/dp/B003YJ8LF0/ref=sr_1_5_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1484424611&sr=8-5&keywords=bay+rum

[Brooklyn1]

On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 12:28:44 +1100, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid>

And bakeries.

[Bruce]

And Indian food.

[Sqwerts]

Jeezis, but you are gullible!

[The Greatest!]

Yup, Sheldon, thanks to Amazon I have re - discovered Pinaud products, I'm placing an order as I write and will include the above, I enjoy trying all of their wares. I get nice compliments from folks, "You always smell so good"...I put these into small spray bottles, in the morning on the way out a quick spritz..."a little dab'll do ya..."

I also enjoy Florida Water, I used to buy it in the Hispanic toileties section of some chain drugstores, but it seems to have disappeared from retail places. Very refreshing to splash on in hot and humid weather, very bracing, the fragrance is not over - powering, either. I DETEST all of those airy - fairy heavy scents:

https://www.amazon.com/Murray-Lanman-Florida-Water-Ounce/dp/B001JKN0HK

Florida Water and similar fragrances I discovered are used by Caribbean/Latino/African/Creole folks for "good luck" potions and such...

Florida Water is mentioned in "Gone With The Wind", it was one of the "luxury" items that smuggler Rhett Butler sneaked into the Southron states, at great profit. In the movie, Scarlett O'Hara gargles with it when she's been drinking and Rhett comes a - callin', the bottle in the movie is almost exactly the same as today's, except that the bottle is plastic. The manufacturer still sells glass - bottled Florida Water on it's website...in fact for Christmas I purchased a few bottles for gifts, both the gals and the guys appreciated them; besides it is inexpensive, and somewhat "unique":

http://www.lanman-and-kemp.com/cat1/product_info.php?cPath=5&products_id=1

Anyways, I can see why it was popular in the foetid heat and humidity of the Olde South, especially before peeps regularly bathed, it is a "tonic" in the truest sense...it also is I guess pretty good at repelling insects. I've used it on slight wounds, it's effect is similar to the old Bactine from my childhood...refreshingly astringent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Water

"Florida Water was regarded as a unisex cologne, suitable for men and women alike. Victorian etiquette manuals warned young ladies against the "offensive" impression made by a strong perfume, but Florida Water and Eau de Cologne were recommended as appropriate for all, along with sachets for scenting the linen and fresh flowers in the corsage. Large quantities were also used by barbershops as cologne and aftershave. In the 1880s and 1890s Murray & Lanman Florida Water was advertised as "The Richest of all Perfumes" and "The most Popular Perfume in the World".

Like other colognes of the era, Florida Water was valued for its refreshing and tonic nature as well as its scent, and could be used as a skin toner or as what we would now call a "body splash". It was also used as a toilet water (eau de toilette), by adding it to the bath or wash-water.

Many baseball teams (particularly it seems in the South) use Florida Water as a refresher during the hot summer baseball months by filling a small lunch sized ice chest with water and ice and a few caps of Florida Water. They then soak rags in the tonic and wipe their pulse points and necks with the soaked rags, providing a very cooling effect to the skin and body..."


--
Best
Greg

[Brooklyn1]

On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 07:28:32 +1100, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid>

wrote:

>On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 15:22:57 -0500, Brooklyn1
><grave...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 12:28:44 +1100, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 17:11:54 -0800, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:56:39 -0500, Dave Smith
>>>><adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2017-01-13 2:59 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> > On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 12:59:46 PM UTC-5, sf wrote:
>>>>> flower shop except these are herbs and spices.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> That's why I love old fashioned candle shops too. Love the aroma.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Scented candles are one of the things I'll outlaw when
>>>>> > I'm Queen of the Universe.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> Please extend that ban to perfume and aftershave that can be smelled
>>>>> more than 4 feet from the person wearing it.
>>>>
>>>>Anything you can smell 4 feet away, including food, should be banned.
>>>
>>>Yay, that's the end of the barbecue!
>>
>>And bakeries.
>
>And Indian food.

That's an aroma I do not find pleasant. The few times I tried an
Indian restaurant, and I was told they were top shelf Manhattan, NY
joints, as soon as I walked in I was overcome with the reek of rancid
grease. Not being up on Indian cusine I asked my companions for a
suggestion and they recommended I try the beef or chicken curries,
they assured me it would be like stew, what they didn't tell me is
that there'd be like an inch of fat over whatever was below... I
didn't eat any, I couldn't get past the sight or the stench. It
didn't help that the restaurant reeked of stinkin' Baaaaaa (lamb).
This was some forty years ago, I haven't had any desire to try Indian
slop again... a dirty water Sabrett dawg from a street vender is like
heavenly porterhouse compared to stinky greazy Indian grub.