Greenpeace ranks corp-o-rat supermarket plastic badness

[tert in seattle]

https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/shopping-for-plastic-2019/

my stores come in at #2 and #4

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 12:20:06 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
> https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/shopping-for-plastic-2019/
>
> my stores come in at #2 and #4

#18 for me

Cindy Hamilton

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 11:20:06 AM UTC-5, tert in seattle wrote:
>
> https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/shopping-for-plastic-2019/
>
> my stores come in at #2 and #4
>

My store came in at #2.

[graham]

On 2019-06-18 10:13 a.m., tert in seattle wrote:
> https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/shopping-for-plastic-2019/
>
> my stores come in at #2 and #4
>

I *never* give a FF what Greenpeace says!!

[tert in seattle]

they all fail, of course

I keep meaning to get some reusable produce bags - anyone here use those,
have recommendations? I really have no idea what's out there

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 6/18/2019 12:13 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
> https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/shopping-for-plastic-2019/
>
> my stores come in at #2 and #4
>

I made my living from plastics for many years. It is often overused
though. Our goal was to use the least amount possible. Customers often
insisted on more for marketing reasons and shelf space.

I completely agree that too many plastic bags are used. I always tell
the bagger to try and put everything in just one bag, my reusable on.

The problem with Greenpeace and other like them, they want to wipe out
ALL plastics. What is used to replace them can be worse for the
environment. Sensibility is better than radicalism.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

I think I've posted pictures before, but I have two 'cart helper' bags that
sit inside of a full size grocery cart. They were acquired at HSN (Home
Shopping Network) 10+ years ago. The first picture is the bags I actually
own folded up.

https://i.postimg.cc/8cGVWxRn/Cart-Helper-Bags-1.jpg

The second picture shows the bags inside a regular grocery cart.

https://i.postimg.cc/fRyQxcdZ/Cart-Helper-Bags-2.jpg

This last picture is of shopping bags you can buy at almost every store under
the sun. But the two that I have I bought at Walmart have re-enforced sides and bottoms that enable the bag to stand up and stay open unlike the original fold up shopping bags.

https://i.postimg.cc/HnYhTm4H/Shopping-bag.jpg

Anyway, all the different shopping bags I own have cut down on my plastic bags
I bring home from any store pretty dramatically.

[tert in seattle]

I've got my reusable shopping bags but I would like something for produce

I saw some dude with these kind of porous fabric looking things for
lettuce and stuff like that - that's what I want

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 6/18/2019 1:39 PM, heyjoe wrote:

>
> "While falling just short of a passing score, ALDI is the highest-ranked
> retailer. ALDI has several initiatives that most other retailers do not:
> a specific plastic reduction target, a more comprehensive plastic
> reduction plan, greater transparency, and a commitment to implement
> reuse and refill delivery systems."

> <my.opinion>
> What amazes me is that Greenpeace had the audacity to rank companies
> that did not participate in the survey process. Clearly these seven
> companies were not going to rank well and should have not been included,
> other than to report that they chose to not participate in the
> Greenpeace survey.
> <\my.opinion>
>

GP wants to be sure you know they did not pass. More important than
accuracy.

ALDI may or may not be doing this for environmental reasons. I'd think
they are more interested in reducing costs and eliminating packaging is
a side benefit. Good for them if it works.

[Julie Bove]

"tert in seattle" <te...@ftupet.com> wrote in message
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> https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/shopping-for-plastic-2019/
>
> my stores come in at #2 and #4

The QFC in Mill Creek has only paper bags. I curse myself whenever I go in
there and forget my bags. I hate paper bags. They always rip before I get
them into the house.

[Julie Bove]

"tert in seattle" <te...@ftupet.com> wrote in message

news:qeb75o$3hl$1...@ftupet.ftupet.com...

I tried several and gave up. The washable ones were the worst. Can't see
through them and stuff like lettuce rots.

[tert in seattle]

hmmm... maybe I'll have better luck

[GM]

But what if it *rains* and the stuff in yer hole - ey bag gets all wet, tert...???

--
Best
Greg

[jmcquown]

On 6/18/2019 12:13 PM, tert in seattle wrote:

> https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/shopping-for-plastic-2019/
>
> my stores come in at #2 and #4
>

Publix at #15. It's the only grocery store on this list in my area. As
usual, a skewed survey.

FWIW, Publix adopted a recent SC proposed law against plastic bags (as
did many other local retailers). For some reason it has not officially
been signed into law. But the retailers stepped up. Some stopped
offering plastic bags at the checkout. I've seen signs out in front of
stores urging people to bring their own bags.

Publix offers sturdy paper bags. With handles. Seems to me the handles
are very helpful.

Jill

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 1:50:04 PM UTC-5, tert in seattle wrote:
>
> I've got my reusable shopping bags but I would like something for produce
>
> I saw some dude with these kind of porous fabric looking things for
> lettuce and stuff like that - that's what I want
>

Kind of a mesh type bag?

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 5:49:29 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> The QFC in Mill Creek has only paper bags. I curse myself whenever I go in
> there and forget my bags. I hate paper bags. They always rip before I get
> them into the house.
>

Dummy, put your reusable bags in your back seat or in your trunk. Then they're
there every single time you shop. Pretty simple for most folks.

[penm...@aol.com]

We have a stack of canvas totes in the car. They fold flat for
storage, and are washable.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Yep, it ain't rocket science. Put your shopping bags back in your vehicle and
they'll there the next time you need them.

[penm...@aol.com]

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 19:40:42 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 8:52:27 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 18:16:35 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 5:49:29 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The QFC in Mill Creek has only paper bags. I curse myself whenever I go in
>> >> there and forget my bags. I hate paper bags. They always rip before I get
>> >> them into the house.
>> >>
>> >Dummy, put your reusable bags in your back seat or in your trunk. Then they're
>> >there every single time you shop. Pretty simple for most folks.
>>
>> We have a stack of canvas totes in the car. They fold flat for
>> storage, and are washable.
>>
>Yep, it ain't rocket science. Put your shopping bags back in your vehicle and
>they'll there the next time you need them.

Canvas totes last practically forever, we have some that are insulated
for perishables. We still choose to have the checkout pack in plastic
bags but then at the car we slip them into the totes. We save the
plastic bags for disposing of used kitty litter.
Canvas totes don't cost much and many businesses give them away for
free for the advertizing exposure.

[Leonard Blaisdell]

In article <qeb7l8$tki$1...@dont-email.me>, heyjoe

<sam...@example.invalid> wrote:

> <my.opinion>
> What amazes me is that Greenpeace had the audacity to rank companies
> that did not participate in the survey process. Clearly these seven
> companies were not going to rank well and should have not been included,
> other than to report that they chose to not participate in the
> Greenpeace survey.
> <\my.opinion>

My guess is that Greenpeace ranks companies by their benefit of ranking
to Greenpeace. I am profoundly uninterested in Greenpeace.

leo

[Julie Bove]

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:d4cf6176-0362-4e4d...@googlegroups.com...

I'm not a dummy. They're usually there. But sometimes I like getting plastic
ones for used cat litter. I *always* get those because if I bring in my own
bags, they get confused.

I don't buy much at QFC. On the odd occasions that I do, I bring my own. But
sometimes I want a couple of plastic bags. Only after I get into the store
do I remember that they don't have plastic. Seattle and Edmonds have no
plastic but most stores around here do.

[Julie Bove]

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:c1d5e7e0-6a62-4050...@googlegroups.com...

They are there.

[Bruce]

Yeah, protecting the environment... Bloody communists!

[Bruce]

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 19:40:42 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 8:52:27 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 18:16:35 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 5:49:29 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The QFC in Mill Creek has only paper bags. I curse myself whenever I go in
>> >> there and forget my bags. I hate paper bags. They always rip before I get
>> >> them into the house.
>> >>
>> >Dummy, put your reusable bags in your back seat or in your trunk. Then they're
>> >there every single time you shop. Pretty simple for most folks.
>>
>> We have a stack of canvas totes in the car. They fold flat for
>> storage, and are washable.
>>
>Yep, it ain't rocket science. Put your shopping bags back in your vehicle and
>they'll there the next time you need them.

But what's the point of having them in the back of your car if you're
not going to use them? Just for good luck?

[Julie Bove]

<penm...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:qc8jgelmounibcbbs...@4ax.com...

I like canvas only for non-food items like clothing. They don't stand up on
their own so hard to use for food. I use Blue Q bags. All of mine were
marked down. My oldest one is probably 10 years old and just starting to
show wear at the outer corners. I wash them out in the sink.

https://www.blueq.com/totes/

[Bruce]

Old people tend to hate Greenpeace and PETA.

[Bruce]

Have you ever heard someone say the opposite?

[Julie Bove]

I know someone will call me out for this. I accidentally put up a link for
the handy totes. I do have one of those. Here's a link for the shopper
totes:

https://www.blueq.com/shoppers/

[Julie Bove]

"tert in seattle" <te...@ftupet.com> wrote in message

news:qebqs9$98p$1...@ftupet.ftupet.com...

I hope so!

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 10:00:37 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
> Canvas totes last practically forever, we have some that are insulated
> for perishables. We still choose to have the checkout pack in plastic
> bags but then at the car we slip them into the totes. We save the
> plastic bags for disposing of used kitty litter.
> Canvas totes don't cost much and many businesses give them away for
> free for the advertizing exposure.
>

I have a good supply of plastic grocery bags for litter as well. When I'm
running low I put my purchases in plastic bags to replenish my stock.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 11:04:45 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:d4cf6176-0362-4e4d...@googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 5:49:29 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>
> >> The QFC in Mill Creek has only paper bags. I curse myself whenever I go
> >> in
> >> there and forget my bags. I hate paper bags. They always rip before I get
> >> them into the house.
> >>
> > Dummy, put your reusable bags in your back seat or in your trunk. Then
> > they're
> > there every single time you shop. Pretty simple for most folks.
>
> I'm not a dummy.
>

Yes, you are without a doubt.

>
> They're usually there. But sometimes I like getting plastic
> ones for used cat litter. I *always* get those because if I bring in my own
> bags, they get confused.
>

They? They who? Who gets confused besides you?

>
> I don't buy much at QFC. On the odd occasions that I do, I bring my own. But
> sometimes I want a couple of plastic bags. Only after I get into the store
> do I remember that they don't have plastic. Seattle and Edmonds have no
> plastic but most stores around here do.
>

How many times have you been in this store and then once through the door
you suddenly remember they don't have plastic? Yes, you are a dummy.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 11:05:18 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:c1d5e7e0-6a62-4050...@googlegroups.com...
> >

> > Yep, it ain't rocket science. Put your shopping bags back in your vehicle
> > and
> > they'll there the next time you need them.
>
> They are there.
>

But too stupid to remember they are there and too stupid to remember to take
into the store with you. Dummy.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 11:06:52 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> >> >On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 5:49:29 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> The QFC in Mill Creek has only paper bags. I curse myself whenever I go in
> >> >> there and forget my bags. I hate paper bags. They always rip before I get
> >> >> them into the house.
>

> But what's the point of having them in the back of your car if you're
> not going to use them? Just for good luck?
>

You'll have to ask Ju-Ju, but I doubt you'll get a straight answer.

[Ophelia]

"tert in seattle" wrote in message news:qebqs9$98p$1...@ftupet.ftupet.com...

===

These are like the ones I have:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/LDFV-Reusable-Washable-Friendly-Vegetable/dp/B07MR8K76Q/ref=asc_df_B07MR8K76Q/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=344352605429&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12489141878876889580&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007315&hvtargid=pla-716650354002&psc=1

They are washable too.

[Ophelia]

"jmcquown" wrote in message news:j8fOE.48312$VL4....@fx19.iad...

On 6/18/2019 12:13 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
> https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/shopping-for-plastic-2019/
>
> my stores come in at #2 and #4
>
Publix at #15. It's the only grocery store on this list in my area. As
usual, a skewed survey.

FWIW, Publix adopted a recent SC proposed law against plastic bags (as
did many other local retailers). For some reason it has not officially
been signed into law. But the retailers stepped up. Some stopped
offering plastic bags at the checkout. I've seen signs out in front of
stores urging people to bring their own bags.

===

Our shopkeepers no longer give them away free. They charge 5p per bag.
Not a lot you might think but it has reduced consumption hugely. It is much
more normal now to see shoppers carrying their own shopping bags:)

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 6:49:29 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> "tert in seattle" <te...@ftupet.com> wrote in message

> news:qeb2jn$22h$1...@ftupet.ftupet.com...

> > https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/shopping-for-plastic-2019/
> >
> > my stores come in at #2 and #4
>

> The QFC in Mill Creek has only paper bags. I curse myself whenever I go in
> there and forget my bags. I hate paper bags. They always rip before I get
> them into the house.

WTF? Before I switched to reusable bags, I brought paper grocery bags
back to the store. They lasted for dozens of trips before I had to
retire them.

Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

Front passenger seat for me, since I vanishingly rarely have anybody else
in my car. As a bonus, if it's raining or snowing, I don't have to faff
around getting them out of the back.

Cindy Hamilton

[Gary]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> WTF? Before I switched to reusable bags, I brought paper grocery bags
> back to the store. They lasted for dozens of trips before I had to
> retire them.

You're lucky. I only ask for paper bags at Christmas time to wrap
and mail gifts. I can't really even imagine a paper bag lasting
dozens of trips to the store. Fake news?

I alway get plastic bags from the grocery stores.
- use them to get groceries home
- to carry extra stuff out when heading to work
- trash bags inside house
- trash bags in the van
- dirty cat litter bags (when I had a cat)

- I even toss some out in high winds to end up in trees. ;)

Trash bags here get many uses and lives. I have no problem with
them. The plastic bag concern is so lame, imo. To avoid them is
just "make me feel good" nonsense. Screw the damn environment. We
are ruining it anyway no matter what little cute efforts to save
it. Petty stuff.

Another lame "feel good" thing these days that annoys me:
Someone dies and so many people (even strangers) run out and
spend tons of money on fresh flowers, damn teddy bears, light
candles, plaques, shrines to honor the dead. WTF?

If you really want to help in some valid way, donate that money
to a good charity of your choice. Anytime there is a publiced
death, the florists and any store that sells fuckin teddy bears
rake in the money. Silliest waste of money that I can possible
imagine. They all go into the trash after an appropriate amount
of time.

Light a candle in honor of the dead? Yeah, that really helps.
lol
Lots of prayer group get togethers too. A bit late for prayers,
isn't it?

I remember seeing on the news once. A multi car crash in Florida.
A state trooper said, "Only by the grace of God more people
weren't killed in this." HELLO? Where was the grace of God with
the many people that died horribly? unbelievable nonsense.

No worries though.... piles of flowers and teddy bears will make
it all better. We care.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Wednesday, June 19, 2019 at 9:54:59 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > WTF? Before I switched to reusable bags, I brought paper grocery bags
> > back to the store. They lasted for dozens of trips before I had to
> > retire them.
>
> You're lucky. I only ask for paper bags at Christmas time to wrap
> and mail gifts. I can't really even imagine a paper bag lasting
> dozens of trips to the store. Fake news?

Possibly my grocery store provided extra-sturdy bags. They had
pretty good handles, too. They're out of business now; the
adult children didn't want to carry on.

Cindy Hamilton

[Ed Pawlowski]

Two step process. First, you have to get them from the kitchen to the
car. Back seat for me. Even though they get that far I have walked
into the store without them.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 6/19/2019 9:55 AM, Gary wrote:

>
> I alway get plastic bags from the grocery stores.
>

> - I even toss some out in high winds to end up in trees. ;)
>

That is very thoughtful of you. In the winter the landscape is so drab
after the leaves fall the bags bring some welcome color. You should be
lauded for bringing some joy to our lives.

>
> Another lame "feel good" thing these days that annoys me:
> Someone dies and so many people (even strangers) run out and
> spend tons of money on fresh flowers, damn teddy bears, light
> candles, plaques, shrines to honor the dead. WTF?
>
> If you really want to help in some valid way, donate that money
> to a good charity of your choice. Anytime there is a publiced
> death, the florists and any store that sells fuckin teddy bears
> rake in the money. Silliest waste of money that I can possible
> imagine. They all go into the trash after an appropriate amount
> of time.
>
> Light a candle in honor of the dead? Yeah, that really helps.
> lol
> Lots of prayer group get togethers too. A bit late for prayers,
> isn't it?
>
> I remember seeing on the news once. A multi car crash in Florida.
> A state trooper said, "Only by the grace of God more people
> weren't killed in this." HELLO? Where was the grace of God with
> the many people that died horribly? unbelievable nonsense.
>
> No worries though.... piles of flowers and teddy bears will make
> it all better. We care.
>

Nice diatribe. I agree 100%. If it is a celebrity there are huge piles
of flowers rotting away on the pile. There are many ways that money can
help others.

[Gary]

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> > I alway get plastic bags from the grocery stores.
> > - I even toss some out in high winds to end up in trees. ;)
> >
>
> That is very thoughtful of you. In the winter the landscape is so drab
> after the leaves fall the bags bring some welcome color. You should be
> lauded for bringing some joy to our lives.

Even more interesting. Many squirrels live here in my trees.
Twice, I've watched a squirrel climb a tree with a plastic bag in
it's mouth. Taking it up to the nest. If they do it right, that
bag can become a shelter from the rain and wind. Squirrels are
definitely not stupid. They think of everything. :)

[Gary]

"itsjoan...@webtv.net" wrote:
>
> Anyway, all the different shopping bags I own have cut down on my plastic bags
> I bring home from any store pretty dramatically.

Hey, the trees need plastic bags. Screw the trees though, I NEED
plastic bags too. I rarely use straws though so as to save the
damn turtles that might get one stuck in their nose. Save the sea
turtles too...we need turtle soup!

Sorry.. Just being dumb now. I'm off (of posting) until tomorrow.
Time now to make a nip of money.

[jmcquown]

Many people (including myself) bring cloth bags. But the supermarkets
give the paper bags instead or plastic. The paper bags are in case you
don't remember to bring your own. I reuse the handled paper bags, too.
They're very sturdy.

Jill

[graham]

I always have my own shopping bags I occasionally get paper ones to use
in slow drying of rough-turned bowls. If they get damaged, they go into
the compost bin along with the wood shavings.

[Dave Smith]

On 2019-06-19 11:31 a.m., Gary wrote:
> "itsjoan...@webtv.net" wrote:
>>
>> Anyway, all the different shopping bags I own have cut down on my plastic bags
>> I bring home from any store pretty dramatically.
>
> Hey, the trees need plastic bags. Screw the trees though, I NEED
> plastic bags too. I rarely use straws though so as to save the
> damn turtles that might get one stuck in their nose. Save the sea
> turtles too...we need turtle soup!

I never had much use for straws. I don't like sipping soft drinks or
mixed drinks through straws, and the last time I had a milk shake was at
least a decade ago. I use to drink beer and pop out of the can or
bottle. That stopped about a year and a half ago when a sweet loving
hornet hitched its way into my mouth in a piece of food and stung me.
Now I use a glass, especially if outside.

[tert in seattle]

itsjoan...@webtv.net writes:
>On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 1:50:04 PM UTC-5, tert in seattle wrote:
>>
>> I've got my reusable shopping bags but I would like something for produce
>>
>> I saw some dude with these kind of porous fabric looking things for
>> lettuce and stuff like that - that's what I want
>>
>Kind of a mesh type bag?

yep

[tert in seattle]

It took me about a year after switching to reusable bags before I stopped
occasionally forgetting them when I go into the store. At home I hang
them on the front door knob right after taking out the groceries so I
don't forget to return them to the car. Back seat for me and they often
end up on the floor because kids.

[tert in seattle]

that's it!

[penm...@aol.com]

On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 14:06:48 +1000, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 19:40:42 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
><itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 8:52:27 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 18:16:35 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>>

>>> >On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 5:49:29 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> The QFC in Mill Creek has only paper bags. I curse myself whenever I go in
>>> >> there and forget my bags. I hate paper bags. They always rip before I get
>>> >> them into the house.
>>> >>
>>> >Dummy, put your reusable bags in your back seat or in your trunk. Then they're
>>> >there every single time you shop. Pretty simple for most folks.
>>>

>>> We have a stack of canvas totes in the car. They fold flat for
>>> storage, and are washable.
>>>

>>Yep, it ain't rocket science. Put your shopping bags back in your vehicle and
>>they'll there the next time you need them.
>

>But what's the point of having them in the back of your car if you're
>not going to use them? Just for good luck?

I wheel the cart of bagged groceries to my car and then slip the
plastic bags of groceries into my totes. Since those plastic bags are
not very strong I'd rather tote them into the house in canvas totes.
We also have some totes made of blue denim... easy to make your own
from old jeans. I'll sometimes request they bag in paper, those heavy
brown paper bags are great for lining wastebaskets, we don't line
wastebaskets with plastic because cats can't resist chomping on
plastic bags.

[Bruce]

Yes, our cat demonstratively starts chewing the plastic bin liner when
he wants to be fed.

I've put making bags from old jeans on my to-do list.

[Hank Rogers]

They won't work as well as Popeye's, unless yoose have some jeans
with shit stains in them.

[Ophelia]

"jmcquown" wrote in message news:fRtOE.106478$ZD7....@fx03.iad...

===

One shop around me gives paper bags, but I put them into my 'shopping'
bag:))

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Amazon stocks reusable mesh veggie bags.