Dinner tonight 4/29/17

[jmcquown]

Lasagna. Made with nice mozzarella and ricotta cheese. Of course it
will be dinner for more than just tonight. That's why I have a freezer.

And sure, gotta double the carbs! Garlic bread to go with it! Nice
thick "Texas" toast. Buttered and sprinkled with Mrs. Dash Garlic &
Herb seasoning blend and a little salt. Toasted under the broiler.

What's on your plate this evening?

Jill

[penm...@aol.com]

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 21:12:10 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
wrote:

>On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 17:05:03 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> What's on your plate this evening?
>

>I had a charcuterie cheese plate.
>
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/sqwertz/34192413222/in/photostream/lightbox/
>
>Clockwise: Fromager d'Affinois cheese, Roquefort cheese, pickled
>Vienna snausages, braunschweiger, garlic and dill peperoncini, sweet
>horseradish gherkins, Tassos double-stuffed olives, roasted and
>marinated yellow peppers, pepperoni, salami and herbed cream cheese
>rollups, and some mustard horseradish sauce.
>
>Everything went very well together.
>
>-sw

Not at all healthful. Constantly eating all that preserved crap will
greatly shorten your life. Don't you ever eat any fresh veggies...
those friggin' pickles don't count.
We ate a huge garden salad for dinner tonight, have leftovers for
lunch tomorrow.

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 21:12:10 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
wrote:

>On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 17:05:03 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>

>> What's on your plate this evening?
>

>I had a charcuterie cheese plate.
>
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/sqwertz/34192413222/in/photostream/lightbox/
>
>Clockwise: Fromager d'Affinois cheese, Roquefort cheese, pickled
>Vienna snausages, braunschweiger, garlic and dill peperoncini, sweet
>horseradish gherkins, Tassos double-stuffed olives, roasted and
>marinated yellow peppers, pepperoni, salami and herbed cream cheese
>rollups, and some mustard horseradish sauce.
>
>Everything went very well together.
>
>-sw
>

looks good. Every once in a while I have a craving for a meal like
that.
Janet US

[jmcquown]

I forgot to mention I added the spinach I'd forgotten in the quiche to
the tomato sauce. Used in the lasagna.

Jill

[Dave Smith]

Hamburgers, raw baby carrots, spicy olives, dill pickles sliced tomato
and onion, and a beer.

[Wayne Boatwright]

On Sat 29 Apr 2017 07:57:55p, Dave Smith told us...

I stopped at the Italian market this morning to pick up cold cuts,
cheeses, and freshly baked rolls. I made a sandwich with hard salami,
mortdella, capocollo, soppressata, provalone, and raschera, along with
some lettuch and spicy mustard. On the side, some pepperoncini and oil
cured olives and US potato chips.

David had a grilled cheeseburger and home fried potatoes.

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Wayne Boatwright

[Bruce]

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 21:12:10 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
wrote:

>On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 17:05:03 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>

>> What's on your plate this evening?
>

>I had a charcuterie cheese plate.
>
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/sqwertz/34192413222/in/photostream/lightbox/
>
>Clockwise: Fromager d'Affinois cheese, Roquefort cheese, pickled
>Vienna snausages, braunschweiger, garlic and dill peperoncini, sweet
>horseradish gherkins, Tassos double-stuffed olives, roasted and
>marinated yellow peppers, pepperoni, salami and herbed cream cheese
>rollups, and some mustard horseradish sauce.
>
>Everything went very well together.

You forgot one ingredient though: the kitchen sink would have been the
finishing touch.

[Gary]

I *wish* my plate held 2 servings of YOUR lasagna dinner. ;-D

I had a couple of Johnsonville cheese/sausage dogs. Good but nothing to
brag about. I remember Eckrich cheese/sausage dogs being better. Haven't
seen them around lately though.

BTW, I do LOVE the Johnsonville commercial where the guy is talking to
the wild animals. heheh good one!

[Cindy Hamilton]

Takeout sushi again. We wore ourselves out doing yard work, and
it's commencement at the university so downtown is a no-fly zone
for us.

But with a nice homemade salad.

Cindy Hamilton

[jmcquown]

It's a pretty stupid commercial. The newer one with the 1960's
game-show theme is pretty good, though. Guy wins a boat but wants the
smoked sausage... so they fill the boat with sausage! :)

Jill

[Gary]

"and a beer."

YUK! just teasing you Davers but why would you ruin a nice dinner
sipping on a beer? lol

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 00:12:28 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
wrote:

>On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 04:04:43 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> I stopped at the Italian market this morning to pick up cold cuts,
>> cheeses, and freshly baked rolls. I made a sandwich with hard salami,
>> mortdella, capocollo, soppressata, provalone, and raschera, along with
>> some lettuch and spicy mustard. On the side, some pepperoncini and oil
>> cured olives and US potato chips.
>

>I make an Italian sub probably every other day. I always have a good
>ham, salami of the week, pepperoni, mortadella, provolone, and some
>sort of giardiniera, olive salad, or peperoncini on hand. And I buy a
>couple types of rolls which I put in the freezer so they're always on
>hand. My current roll is the La Brea/Costco torta rolls which come in
>12 packs and freeze well.
>
>I picked up the Trader Joes brand provolone yesterday and I'm pretty
>impressed with it. It's tastier than the other brands I've been
>buying. $6/lb in 12oz packages ($4.49).
>
>-sw

the problem with making a sub at home is getting the meat and cheese
cut thin enough. I'm done trying. I just go to Blimpie's
Janet US

[U.S. Janet B.]

I can't imagine why you would think something called a 'cheese sausage
dog' would taste good.
Janet US

[Cindy Hamilton]

If a person likes cheese on sausage (or dogs, or sausage dogs), I don't
see why he wouldn't like cheese inside of those things.

Not my cuppa. I was thinking about kielbasa, onions and kraut (perhaps
on rye bread as a sandwich) for lunch. It's a grey, chilly day here
(about 50 F with 95% relative humidity), so kielbasa sounds pretty
good. I favor smoked kielbasa over fresh kielbasa.

Cindy Hamilton

[Dave Smith]

What a sec. You were upset that I shunned the idea of ready made fondue.

[The Greatest!]

I pick those up once in blue moon if they're on sale, it is really more about "convenience"...not a staple, more of a treat. I try to really limit myself with processed stuff like that.


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Best
Greg

[U.S. Janet B.]

the idea of cheese and sausage living together inside an old sausage
doesn't seem right to me. Maybe they do something to keep the cheese
from getting slimy. If the sausage-cheese mixture was made today and
consumed today I guess it would be o.k.
Janet US

[Roy]

After all of those flavors and aromas plus the "hot" stuff, my taste-buds
and tongue would need a long rest to recuperate. Can't even imagine wanting
to consume all of that guck.
====

[Taxed and Spent]

you best stick to gumming your oatmeal.

[Cindy Hamilton]

I imagine that once the sausage is piping hot, the cheese melts and it's
impossible to tell that it was slimy.

Besides, the cheese is pasteurized and processed (like American cheese).
It's pre-slimy.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton

[Taxed and Spent]

On 4/30/2017 11:26 AM, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 09:58:08 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 00:12:28 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 04:04:43 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>
>>>> I stopped at the Italian market this morning to pick up cold cuts,
>>>> cheeses, and freshly baked rolls. I made a sandwich with hard salami,
>>>> mortdella, capocollo, soppressata, provalone, and raschera, along with
>>>> some lettuch and spicy mustard. On the side, some pepperoncini and oil
>>>> cured olives and US potato chips.
>>>
>>> I make an Italian sub probably every other day. I always have a good
>>> ham, salami of the week, pepperoni, mortadella, provolone, and some
>>> sort of giardiniera, olive salad, or peperoncini on hand. And I buy a
>>> couple types of rolls which I put in the freezer so they're always on
>>> hand. My current roll is the La Brea/Costco torta rolls which come in
>>> 12 packs and freeze well.
>>>
>>> I picked up the Trader Joes brand provolone yesterday and I'm pretty
>>> impressed with it. It's tastier than the other brands I've been
>>> buying. $6/lb in 12oz packages ($4.49).
>>

>> the problem with making a sub at home is getting the meat and cheese
>> cut thin enough. I'm done trying. I just go to Blimpie's
>

> I just ask the deli to slice it ".5" (less if it's prosciutto). But
> getting them to shave Pittsburgh-style chipped ham is usually futile.
>
> -sw
>


I was never a fan of shaved meat or cheese. Thin yes, but tissue paper, no.

[sanne]

Am Sonntag, 30. April 2017 19:00:07 UTC+2 schrieb U.S. Janet B.:

> the idea of cheese and sausage living together inside an old sausage
> doesn't seem right to me. Maybe they do something to keep the cheese
> from getting slimy. If the sausage-cheese mixture was made today and
> consumed today I guess it would be o.k.
> Janet US

Check this out, especially "Käsekrainer":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carniolan_sausage#Variations_and_preparation

Nothing old involved.
But what it's called in Vienna sounds disgusting indeed:
"Eitrige" ("purulent")... ;-D

Bye, Sanne.

[Wayne Boatwright]

On Sun 30 Apr 2017 08:58:08a, U.S. Janet B. told us...

I don't know where you s shop, Janet, but the Italiam market where I
shop cups all of their meats and cheeses on order and as thin or as
thick as you like. I've never been disappointed.

[Wayne Boatwright]

On Sun 30 Apr 2017 11:29:21a, Taxed and Spent told us...

I'm not a fan of shaved meat either. It always seems as though there
is no substance to buite into. However, David likes his turkey
shaved tissue thin and they do a good job of it.

[penm...@aol.com]

On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 09:58:08 -0600, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>

Your deli doesn't have a slicer?!?!?
Blimpies is like Subway, fake cold cuts.

[cshenk]

jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Home made bread (a milk version with 3 cheeses), built to small long
subs then cut to 1/2 and filled with sweet lebanese salami, minced
onion, havarti and mozzarella sliced cheeses. Mayo, a dab of
horseradish, and a dab of whole grain mustard.

Side was stirfry veggies, mostly cabbage, carrot, mushroom, olive oil
(the cheap stuff), mini peppers and a leftover long thin asian eggplant.

Riceball at the side seasoned with dried plum, a little pinch of
cinnimon and rolled in a small amount of honey powder.

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[Bruce]

On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 10:33:09 -0700 (PDT), Roy <wil...@outlook.com>
wrote:

Yes, too much of a good thing.

[Taxed and Spent]

On 4/30/2017 1:11 PM, l not -l wrote:

> 2-3 ply tissue thin is good with me. 8-)
> I like to drape several thin slices onto a sandwich so that there is not a
> solid wall of meat; but, "corrugated: effect. To me, the extra surface area
> (??) enhances the flavor, where a meat puck suppresses it. Of course,
> corned beef and pastrami are generally the only deli meats I buy.
>


I agree with the corrugated effect, but shaved meat pushes past the
enhanced flavor into blandness.

[U.S. Janet B.]

I know what you are talking about. I'm talking thicker than that -- -
easily pliable. Too much meat and cheese ruins a good grinder.
I just go into Blimpie's and tell them I want a foot long Blimpie's
Best with extra vinegar and oil, extra oregano and the yellow peppers.
Perfect.
Janet US

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 20:11:37 GMT, "l not -l" <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:

>
>On 30-Apr-2017, Wayne Boatwright <waynebo...@xgmail.com> wrote:
>

>2-3 ply tissue thin is good with me. 8-)
>I like to drape several thin slices onto a sandwich so that there is not a
>solid wall of meat; but, "corrugated: effect. To me, the extra surface area
>(??) enhances the flavor, where a meat puck suppresses it. Of course,
>corned beef and pastrami are generally the only deli meats I buy.

that's what I got at Winco the other day -- a half inch of solid meat
and cheese. It was unpleasant to bite through, Winco was trying to
give value for dollar and messed up the sandwich instead. It took two
meals for my husband and myself to eat it all and I actually threw the
bread and most of the filling from my half away.
Janet US

[U.S. Janet B.]

I can get cut to order at Albertson's. I don't like their cold cut
choices -- Boar's Head.
Janet US

[U.S. Janet B.]

The meat and cheese is sliced right in front of my eyes for my
Blimpies sandwich. The meat and cheese are kept refrigerated and the
sandwich maker wears gloves. I know you like Boar's Head but I don't.
There's just something about the seasoning that makes not like it.
Janet US

[U.S. Janet B.]

by old, I meant a sausage that was made in previous weeks.
Janet US

[penm...@aol.com]

On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 14:37:55 -0600, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>

Not talking brand. Blimpi and Subway is NO brand, it's cold cuts made
from molded compressed mystery meats. And I've never seen a deli that
doesn't slice to order, thin/thick as you want. I sometimes buy a
thick chunk of Brawnschieger and slice it how I want at home but if
your deli has no slicer it's not a deli... perhaps you're buying whole
unsliced deli meats... I sometimes buy various whole hard salamis and
slice at home as desired, very easy to slice paper thin or however I
want with a sharp knife... a well honed carbon steel blade makes it
easy and fast... stainless steel blades suck at fine knife work.
Stainless steel knives are okay on produce but are terrible for meats,
raw or cooked. I don';t own a serrated knife those should be banned
from steak restaurants... I have a wonderful set of scalop bladed
steak knives for everyday use, they slice through steak like the feel
of fine silk. I also have a set of Samarai steak knives from Japan,
deadly sharp but need to be used on wooden trenchers. Any so-called 5
star steak house serves your steak on a porcelain plate with a
serrated ss knife LEAVE! They haven't a clue about meat, that's an
ordinary stupidmarket steak you can buy for $8 being passed off as
USDA Prime.

[penm...@aol.com]

On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 18:40:59 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
wrote:

>On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 15:42:58 -0400, penm...@aol.com wrote:
>

>> Your deli doesn't have a slicer?!?!?
>> Blimpies is like Subway, fake cold cuts.
>

>Sheldon's never even eaten at a Blimpie's. But they must suck anyway.

I don't need to eat at Blimpies or Subway, I have eyes you cretin
dwarf.... go stuff down a few more $1/lb tube steaks with your wetback
hot peppers so you can't taste how shitty they are.

[penm...@aol.com]

On Mon, 01 May 2017 05:51:39 +1000, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

Even though it's a lot of unhealthful crapola
his presentation sucks... the dwarf eats that unhealthful mierda
every day... LOOK AT HIM... the dwarf is taller laying down than
standing up.

[dsi1]

My son had a sandwich from Subway. It was pretty good. I was going to make a turkey and salami sandwich but I saw some tuna salad in the fridge - so I made a tuna sandwich. For extra sass, I put some wasabi in it. That was a very wise decision. :)

[sanne]

And I still don't know where that idea came from. Those sausages are freshly
made and/or so salty that there's no risk of spoilage. ;-)

Bye, Sanne.

[Ophelia]

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
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==

You could buy a lump of whatever and slice it to your preference at home. I
have an electric slicer and they are not expensive.



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[U.S. Janet B.]

On Mon, 1 May 2017 15:24:55 +0100, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>
wrote:
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>
>You could buy a lump of whatever and slice it to your preference at home. I
>have an electric slicer and they are not expensive.

I had a slicer and got rid of it to eliminate clutter. Getting a
Blimpie is easy and satisfying.
Janet US

[Ophelia]

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message

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==

So long as it suits you:)



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[Wayne Boatwright]

On Mon 01 May 2017 09:51:12a, Ophelia told us...

None of the "sub" shops I've ever eaten in satisfieed me. In Phoenix
we have Jimmy John's, Quiznos, Port of Subs, Subway, Blimpie, and a
fair number of indepedent non-chain shops. Either I don't like the
selection of meats, cheese, rolls, or condiments, or whatever passes
for the end result.

We have two different family owned and run Italian markets where I
can find more types of meats and cheesesthat are all top quality and
imported from Italy. Everything is sliced to order and to the
requested thinness. I'd much rather take a selection of all the
ingredienets home with me and make my own.

That's what suits me. :-)

[Ophelia]

"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
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Wayne Boatwright

==

And nothing wrong with that either lol I have never been in a subway (the
smell of it when I pass is enough) and I have never even seen the rest:)))



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[Wayne Boatwright]

On Mon 01 May 2017 12:15:53p, Ophelia told us...

I doubt you'd be tempted by any of them. :_)

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Mon, 1 May 2017 20:15:53 +0100, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

what smell? You must be thinking of another shop. Subway is a
sandwich shop. Unless you are bothered by the smell of bread baking?
Janet US

[Bruce]

On Mon, 01 May 2017 14:17:42 -0600, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 1 May 2017 20:15:53 +0100, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
>>news:XnsA7687131241DDwa...@69.16.179.44...
>>

>>None of the "sub" shops I've ever eaten in satisfieed me. In Phoenix
>>we have Jimmy John's, Quiznos, Port of Subs, Subway, Blimpie, and a
>>fair number of indepedent non-chain shops. Either I don't like the
>>selection of meats, cheese, rolls, or condiments, or whatever passes
>>for the end result.
>>
>>We have two different family owned and run Italian markets where I
>>can find more types of meats and cheesesthat are all top quality and
>>imported from Italy. Everything is sliced to order and to the
>>requested thinness. I'd much rather take a selection of all the
>>ingredienets home with me and make my own.
>>
>>That's what suits me. :-)
>>

>>And nothing wrong with that either lol I have never been in a subway (the
>>smell of it when I pass is enough) and I have never even seen the rest:)))
>
>what smell? You must be thinking of another shop. Subway is a
>sandwich shop. Unless you are bothered by the smell of bread baking?

I didn't think soy had an offensive smell at all.

[dsi1]

If you're talking about a Subway sandwich shop, I know what you're talking about. It's a most peculiar smell. It has nuances of something decaying. My guess is that it's the smell of frozen bread dough defrosting.

[penm...@aol.com]

On Tue, 02 May 2017 06:33:44 +1000, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

There's a new Subway in town, opened about a year ago, adjacent to
theTops Super Market. I looked in once and about faced, the place was
empty of customers and nothing looked or smelled good, and they don't
bake bread, shipped in from somewhere... can see their menu on the
wall, prices seemed high. Right next door Tops Market has a good
deli, every kind of cold cuts, many brands, plus all sorts of hot subs
and salads too, even rotisserie chicken, deep fried too... almost
always a line, gotta take a number. All the contractor types are
there before breakfast buying breakfast and lunch on the way to their
jobs. I don't think that Subway will last much longer without
customers. There's no way Subway can compete with a supermarket deli.
I will occasionally buy a sandwich at that deli and they are good, but
I'd rather buy sliced coldcuts and build my own at home at my
convenience. There are several very good delis nearby, two German and
one Italian, I'll stop at those if I happen to be passing. The Super
Walmarts are actually the best delis but each is a 20 mile drive one
way... they are the best because they are the cleanest, and they have
the best selection... only ngative is I tend to buy too much at
Walmart and and cold cuts are really not good for me.
Tonight's dinner is an eyeround, baked potato, and some frozen veg not
decided till the boss is back from golf... but I'm thinking
broccoli... my Oriental style orange broccoli; soy sauce, toasted
sesame seed oil, fresh ground white pepper, granulated garlic, MSG,
orange marmalade, a smidge of red pepper flakes.
These are very nice broccoli florets, Wellsley Farms
from BJs, a 4lb bag, no stems. Will be a later than usual dinner. . .
golf!

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Mon, 1 May 2017 23:14:11 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
wrote:

>Look up "Subway Stench" on Google. I thought I had coined the term
>but it turned out it was already an established term. Subway stores
>smell terrible.
>
>https://www.google.com/#q=subway+stench
>
>According to Google, Subway - the sandwich shop - is more famous for
>their stench than the stench in the NYC subway.
>
>-sw

I confess that I have never been within smelling distance of a Subway.
Janet US

[Wayne Boatwright]

On Mon 01 May 2017 09:10:04p, Sqwertz told us...

> On Mon, 01 May 2017 18:07:39 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> None of the "sub" shops I've ever eaten in satisfieed me. In
>> Phoenix we have Jimmy John's, Quiznos, Port of Subs, Subway,
>> Blimpie, and a fair number of indepedent non-chain shops. Either
>> I don't like the selection of meats, cheese, rolls, or
>> condiments, or whatever passes
>

> You have Jersey Mike's. Try one of their Italians. They're my
> favorite when I don't want to bother making my own.
>
> -sw
>

Actually there are three of their stores in the Phoenix area, but none
are anywhere near where we live. It wouldn't be worth trip since my
Italian markets are rather close by.

[Ophelia]

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message

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==

Oh come on!!!! You honestly believe I don't know the smell of bread
baking???????????? LOL

When you know what that place smells like, that is the time to argue!


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[Ophelia]

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message

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===

If you have never even been near a Subway, why did you argue when I said the
one
here had a bad smell???

My god. you even accused me of being "bothered by the smell of bread
baking?"

I have been baking bread since I was a young girl!

You need a rethink lady!!!



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[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
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==

Whatever it is, it puts me off ever going in.


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[dsi1]

It's not a nice smell so your feeling is understandable. My guess is that the chilled dough has water condensing on the surface which acts as a medium for yeast to grow. When the bread is baked, the water flashes off and you get that nasty smell.

This afternoon I had a sub sandwich from Quiznos. I shared a "Lobster & Seafood Scampi Bake" sandwich with my wife. It was pretty good - at least I think it was. My taste is kinda messed up. I have no idea what the heck I was eating but my guess that it wasn't lobster chunks but some kind of formed product. Oh well, it's probably better not knowing. :)

[Bruce]

On Tue, 2 May 2017 02:34:29 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 10:23:02 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" wrote in message
>> news:ee4cabb0-dbbb-43d7...@googlegroups.com...
>>
>> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 9:18:09 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> > "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
>> > news:XnsA7687131241DDwa...@69.16.179.44...
>> >

I've asked you before: do you have a special orifice that you pull
this kind of nonsense out off?

[Dave Smith]

On 2017-05-02 12:21 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:

>>
>> According to Google, Subway - the sandwich shop - is more famous for
>> their stench than the stench in the NYC subway.
>>
>> -sw
>
> I confess that I have never been within smelling distance of a Subway.

I don't know if the American Subways are different from the Canadian
franchise. I have eaten their stuff and it's not horrible. I will likely
be eating lunch from one today. I am in a tournament being held at a
YMCA / community sports complex and Subway has the rights to food sales
there. The tournament starts at 11 and runs until about 5, so unless my
partner and I get knocked out early I will likely need to have some
lunch. The last time I ate there I had their Korean BBQ pulled pork and
it wasn't too bad.

[Bruce]

I guess you weren't put off by the chilled dough that has water
condensing on the surface which acts as a medium for yeast to grow, so
when the bread is baked, the water flashes off and you get that nasty
smell.

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
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I am very pleased you enjoyed your lunch:))

As for dough ... as I pointed out in another post, I have been baking bread
for decades and have never, ever, had the smell that comes from Subway!

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[penm...@aol.com]

On Tue, 2 May 2017 13:39:54 +0100, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>

It's the aroma of yeast infections eminating from their employees. lol
And there's no bread baking at Subway, least not at the one here, they
use those frozen preformed raw loaves and bake them same as those
frozen biscuits from a tube... the same as many supermarket baked
goods departments... I don't call that bread baking any more than I
call those Pillsbury Dough Boy biscuits baking. Subway's concept of
bread baking is the same as baking a frozen pizza, or toasting Eggos.

[dsi1]

On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 3:09:18 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> I am very pleased you enjoyed your lunch:))
>
> As for dough ... as I pointed out in another post, I have been baking bread
> for decades and have never, ever, had the smell that comes from Subway!
>
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> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Most people here have baked bread. What's different is that we don't use pre-made, frozen, dough. My guess is that the loaves are simply defrosted and baked. Subway could probably fix the problem by changing their procedures and processes but you don't really want to mess with success.

[Ophelia]

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I'm not sure how successful it is when it puts people off eating there.


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[dsi1]

I don't know how things are in your neck of the woods, but Subway is one of the most successful franchises in the US. I think they may have the more restaurants than any of the other franchises. We have three in this town. OTOH, I rather own a McDonald's. :)

[Ophelia]

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I don't really know because I never use those places. We have a McDonalds
and some places I guess around but I don't have any interest. The only
reason I know about Subway is that I sometimes walk past it on the way to
some other shops.



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[Dave Smith]

I have had submarine sandwiches in a lot of different places and I was
seldom impressed with the quality of the bread. I have to say that
Subway is better than some of the other insipid breads that have been used.

[dsi1]

Subway bread is eminently edible - especially if you're hungry! My guess is that some of the loaves you get with your sandwich is not available anywhere else.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 2 May 2017 15:50:31 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

They give you loaves with your sandwich? Is that like buying a glass
of wine and getting a couple of bottles thrown in?

[penm...@aol.com]

On Tue, 2 May 2017 18:09:46 +0100, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Subway is the most succsessful fast food companies on the planet, why
I've no idea.

Subway (restaurant)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(Redirected from Subway Sandwiches)
This article is about the restaurant. For other uses, see Subway.
Subway IP, Inc.
Subway 2016 logo.svg
Trading name
Subway
Type
Privately held company
Industry Restaurants
Genre Fast food
Founded As Pete's Super Submarines: August 28, 1965; 51 years ago
Bridgeport, Connecticut, U.S.
As Subway: 1968; 49 years ago
Founders
Fred DeLuca
Peter Buck
Headquarters Milford, Connecticut, U.S.
Number of locations
44,834 restaurants in 112 countries[1]
Key people
Suzanne Greco (CEO, President)
Products
Submarine sandwiches
Pizzas (some locations)
Owner Doctor's Associates, Inc.
Website www.subway.com/en-us

Subway restaurant in Portland, Oregon
Subway IP Inc., (doing business as Subway) is a privately held
American fast food restaurant franchise that primarily sells submarine
sandwiches (subs) and salads. It is owned and operated by Doctor's
Associates, Inc., doing business as Subway IP, Inc. Subway is one of
the fastest-growing franchises in the world, with 44,882 restaurants
in 112 countries and territories as of December 27, 2016. The United
States alone has 26,646 outlets.[1] It is the largest single-brand
restaurant chain and the largest restaurant operator in the
world.[2][3][4]

Subway's international headquarters is in Milford, Connecticut; five
regional centers support Subway's international operations. The
regional offices for European franchises are located in Amsterdam
(Netherlands), the Australian, and New Zealand locations are supported
from Brisbane (Australia); the Asian locations are supported from
offices in Beirut (Lebanon) and Singapore, and the Latin American
support center is in Miami.[5]

Contents [hide]
1 History
2 Locations
3 Products
3.1 Regional variations
3.2 Nutritional content
4 Advertising
4.1 Jared Fogle
4.2 $5 footlongs
4.3 Sub Club
4.4 Italian Hero
5 Controversies
5.1 Hepatitis A contamination
5.2 Sandwich size
5.3 Franchise relations
5.4 United Kingdom VAT treatment
5.5 Casey's trademark case against Subway
5.6 Ingredients
5.7 Soy protein in chicken products
6 See also
7 References
8 External links
History[edit]

Subway logo used from 1968 to 2002

Subway logo used from 2002 to 2017, and since then as a secondary
logo.
In 1965, Fred DeLuca borrowed $1,000 from friend Peter Buck to start
"Pete's Super Submarines" in Bridgeport, Connecticut, and in the
following year, they formed Doctor's Associates Inc. to oversee
operations of the restaurants as the franchise expanded.[6] The
holding company derives its name from DeLuca's goal to earn enough
from the business to pay tuition for medical school, as well as Buck's
having a doctorate in physics.[7] Doctor's Associates is not
affiliated with, nor endorsed by, any medical organization.[8] In
1968, the sandwich shop was renamed "Subway".[6]


Subway restaurant in Pittsfield Township, Michigan (2011)
The first Subway on the West Coast was opened in Fresno, California,
in 1978.[9] The first Subway outside of North America opened in
Bahrain in December 1984.[10] The first Subway in the United Kingdom
was opened in Brighton in 1996.[11] In 2004, Subway began opening
stores in Walmart supercenters and surpassed the number of McDonald's
locations inside U.S. Walmart stores in 2007.[12]

Since 2007, Subway has consistently ranked in Entrepreneur magazine's
Top 500 Franchises list. It ranked #2 in 2012. It also ranked #2 on
the "Fastest Growing Franchise" and "Global Franchise" lists.[13] At
the end of 2010, Subway became the largest fast food chain worldwide,
with 33,749 restaurants – 1,012 more than McDonald's.[14]

In 2016, Subway closed hundreds of restaurants in the U.S.,
experiencing a net loss in locations for the first time. However, with
26,744 locations, they remained the most ubiquitous restaurant chain
in the U.S. (with McDonald's in the #2 spot).[15] Also in 2016, Subway
announced a new logo for the franchise, to be implemented in 2017.[16]
A radically updated "restaurant of the future" concept is due to be
rolled out globally from 2017 onwards.[citation needed]

Locations[edit]

Countries with Subway Restaurants
Countries with plans for Subway Restaurants
Countries that formerly had Subway Restaurants
Products[edit]

A Subway Club 6" sandwich
Subway's core product is the submarine sandwich (or "sub"). In
addition to these, the chain also sells wraps, salad, paninis, and
baked goods (including cookies, doughnuts, and muffins). While some
menu items vary between countries and markets, Subway's worldwide
signature sub varieties include:[17]

B.L.T
Chicken
Chicken Pizziola
Chicken Teriyaki
Chicken Tikka
Chipotle Chicken
Ham
Italian B.M.T.
Meatball Marinara
Roasted Chicken
Spicy Italian
Steak & Cheese
Subway Club
Subway Melt
Tuna
Turkey
Veggie Delite
Veggie Patty
Subway's best-selling sandwich,[18] the B.M.T., contains pepperoni,
salami, and ham. The name originally stood for Brooklyn Manhattan
Transit, but now stands for "Bigger, Meatier, Tastier".[19]

Subway also sells breakfast sandwiches, English muffins, and
flatbread. In 2006, "personal pizzas" debuted in some US markets.
These are made to order (like their subs) and heated for 85 seconds.
Breakfast and pizza items are only available in some stores. In
November 2009, Subway signed a deal to serve exclusively Seattle's
Best Coffee coffee as part of their breakfast menu in the US.[20]

A 2009 Zagat survey named Subway the best provider of "Healthy
Options" (in the "Mega Chain" category). Subway was also first in "Top
Service" and "Most Popular" rankings. It placed second in "Top
Overall", behind Wendy's.[21]

On April 18, 2017, Subway announced that they would be adding paninis
to their menu. Chipotle Steak & Cheese, Triple Cheese, Chicken Cordon
Bleu, and Italian B.M.T. Melt were the 4 variations announced.[22]

Regional variations[edit]
Subway's menu varies between countries, most significantly where there
are religious requirements relating to the meats served.

In 2006, the first kosher Subway restaurant in the United States
opened, in a suburb of Cleveland, Ohio in the Mandel JCC of Cleveland.
Former Subway spokesman Jared Fogle attended the opening. A press
release stated, "With slight modifications, such as no pork-based
products, and the use of soy-based cheese product, the menu is
virtually identical to that of any other Subway restaurant."[23] Other
openings soon followed, briefly making Subway one of the largest U.S.
kosher restaurant chains.[24] At their peak, 12 kosher Subway
locations were open in the U.S, including Kansas City and 5 in New
York. As of 2011, only five remain Cleveland, Miami, Los Angeles and
two stores in Maryland.[25] Franchisees who failed noted a lack of
support from the parent location in advertising, higher costs of
kosher food and supervision, the inability to remain open on
Saturdays, and that customers who do not keep kosher prefer the
original menu and prices.[25]

Subway opened its first restaurant in India in 2001 in New Delhi.
Subway restaurants in India do not serve beef and pork products in
deference to Hindu and Muslim beliefs respectively and sell an
extended vegetarian range due to the large number of vegetarians in
the country. There are 591 Subway restaurants in 68 cities of India as
of January 2017.[26] On September 4, 2012, Subway opened its first
all-vegetarian outlet on the campus of Lovely Professional University
(LPU) in Jalandhar, Punjab.[27] On March 6, 2013, Subway opened its
second all-vegetarian outlet also offering Jain food in Paldi,
Ahmedabad.[28]

Nutritional content[edit]
In 2011, Subway introduced gluten-free bread and brownies to some
locations in Texas.[29] It also cut the salt content of its sandwiches
by 15 percent.[30]

In the United Kingdom and Ireland, Subway has reduced salt content
across its entire range by 33% and has committed to further
reductions, in line with government targets.[31] Subway's range of
"Low Fat" subs is endorsed by the charity Heart Research UK.[32]

Advertising[edit]

Subway in Belo Horizonte, Brazil. (2009)
Subway is the second-biggest fast food advertiser in the United
States, behind only McDonald's. It spent US$516,000,000 on measurable
advertising in 2011.[33]

Subway uses the advertising slogan "Eat Fresh", and focuses on how
their sandwiches are made from freshly baked bread and fresh
ingredients, in front of customers to their exact specifications, by
employees whom Subway calls "Subway Sandwich Artists".

In November 2007, Subway's US commercials featured the cartoon
character Peter Griffin (from Family Guy) promoting its new Subway
Feast sandwich.[34] Subway has also used "instant win" games, based on
the game Scrabble.

Subway ran a product placement campaign in the US TV series Chuck
since its first season. As ratings dwindled in the second season, a
campaign to "save Chuck" was launched for fans, encouraging them to
purchase a footlong sub from Subway on April 27, 2009, the date of the
season finale. Tony Pace, Subway's marketing officer, called it the
best product placement the restaurant chain has done "in several
years."[35]

To celebrate National Sandwich Day on November 3, 2015, Subway offered
a Buy One sandwich, Give One sandwich free promotion.[36]

Jared Fogle[edit]

Jared Fogle in 2007
Jared Fogle was a national spokesman for the company in the US
starting in January 2000, giving talks on healthy living and appearing
in advertisements. Fogle first came to attention in his native Indiana
by claiming that he lost over 200 pounds in part by eating at Subway.
From 2008, he was featured less often as the company marketed with
more emphasis on their "5 dollar footlong" campaign.[37] Subway
attributed between one-third and one-half of their growth from 1998 to
2011 to Fogle, the equivalent of a tripling in size.[38] Subway cut
ties with Fogle on August 18, 2015, amid expectations that he would
plead guilty to child pornography and child molestation charges,[39]
which were confirmed the following day.[40] He has since been
sentenced to more than 15 years in federal prison.[41]

In December 2015, following the removal of Fogle from its marketing,
Subway introduced a new marketing campaign, "Founded on Fresh". The
campaign focuses upon Subway's establishment and early history, and
features Fred DeLuca, as played by his son, Jonathon. The new campaign
downplays the use of jingles and celebrity endorsements (besides
"targeted" sports marketing), in favor of focusing upon the qualities
of its products, and specific products. Chief advertising officer
Chris Carroll explained that the focus on fat, calories, and weight
loss were "what fresh used to be", and that the new campaign would
focus more on the sourcing of Subway's ingredients, such as its
phase-out of antibiotic-treated meat. Carroll also explained that the
new strategy was being developed prior to the controversy involving
Fogle.[42]

$5 footlongs[edit]
For more details on this topic, see Subway $5 footlong promotion.
In 2008, Subway began to offer all foot-long submarine sandwiches
(excluding premium and double-meat varieties) for five dollars, in the
continental United States and Canada, as a "limited time only"
promotion. "Five Dollar Footlongs" quickly became the company's most
successful promotion ever.[43] Upon the initial promotion's
completion, customer response prompted Subway to create a permanent
"$5 Footlong Everyday Value Menu" that offered some footlong
sandwiches for $5. As of 2011, there has been a monthly rotating $5
footlong.[44]

In October 2011, a similar promotion was launched in the United
Kingdom. Customers can buy one of nine subs and any drink for £3 (for
a six-inch sub) or £5 (for a footlong).[45] On November 1, 2014,
Subway discontinued the five dollar footlong promotion, replacing it
with the £6 six-inch select with a drink and a choice of cookies or
chips.

Sub Club[edit]

Sub Club Cards and Sub Club stamps
In early June 2005, Subway announced its first customer reward program
would be phased out due to counterfeiting. The "Sub Club" program was
discontinued in September 2013 by Doctor's Associates.[46]

Participating Subway restaurants in the U.S. and Canada offer a
"Subway Card" to customers, which functions as a stored-value cash
card. In some states and provinces, the card also functions as a
"Subway Rewards Card", allowing customers to earn points for free food
and sandwiches. Unlike in the "Sub Club" program, no other purchase is
needed when redeeming points and registered cards can be replaced if
lost or stolen.[47] Subway runs periodic promotions in which it gives
away free subs to customers who pre-load a Subway Card with certain
dollar amounts, usually listed at mysubwaycard.com.

All stores in the United Kingdom and Ireland participate in the
Subcard system, offering customers points with each purchase at a
store, which are redeemable for subs and snacks. Unlike in the US
system, these cards cannot be used to store cash. The program was
rolled out in Germany, and other parts of Europe from 2012.[48]

Italian Hero[edit]
In early 2017, Subway introduced its Italian Hero, and advertised it
with a campaign describing it as an authentic Italian[-American]
sandwich. Two comedic spots feature stereotypical Italian-American
characters on and around the stoop of a New York/New Jersey tenement
building, one including a cameo by sportcaster Dick Vitale. Another ad
features Food Network's Jeff Mauro, the "Sandwich King", discussing
the nature and role of the different Italian meats and other
ingredients.[49][50][51][52][53][54]

Controversies[edit]
Hepatitis A contamination[edit]
In September 1999, at least 32 customers in the north Seattle area
contracted hepatitis A after eating food contaminated with the virus
at two Subway outlets.[55] The virus, which is spread by eating or
drinking food or water contaminated with infected feces, infects the
liver causing nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, fatigue, and fever.[56]
Subsequent investigations found that staff failed to adhere to
thorough hand washing and the use of plastic gloves during food
preparation.[57] A class-action lawsuit on behalf of 31 victims was
resolved for $1.6 million.[58][59] The most seriously affected
victim—a 6-year-old boy—suffered acute liver failure and required a
liver transplant. He was awarded $10 million in an out-of-court
settlement in 2001.[57] A previous outbreak of hepatitis A in 1996 had
also involved a Subway outlet in the Seattle area, although no legal
action had resulted.[55]

In April 2015, the Arkansas Department of Health issued a warning to
the public that customers who had eaten at the Subway outlet in
Morrilton, Arkansas, may have been exposed to infection after an
employee tested positive for the virus.[60][61]

Sandwich size[edit]
On February 2, 2007, KNXV-TV (with the help of the Arizona Department
of Weights and Measures) reported that three of Subway's "Giant Sub"
sandwiches, nominally each 3-foot (91 cm) long, were actually 2 feet 8
inches (81 cm), 2 feet 8.25 inches (81.92 cm), and 2 feet 8.5 inches
(82.6 cm) long. The maximum variance in length allowed in Arizona is
3% (1.08 inches (2.7 cm), for a three-foot sub). The report also
showed the boxes designed to store these sandwiches were 2 feet 10.75
inches (88.27 cm) in length; shorter than the maximum allowable
variance. In response to the report, Subway stated they were
reevaluating their advertising, training and packaging materials with
regard to the specific or implied length of Giant Subs, and were
advising their franchisees to only discuss with customers the
approximate number of expected servings and not a specific length of
measurement.[62]

In January 2013, an Australian teen, Matt Corby, complained on
Facebook that Subway's "footlong" sandwich was only 11 inches (28 cm)
long, rather than 1 foot (30 cm). Subway responded by saying, "With
regards to the size of the bread and calling it a footlong, 'Subway
Footlong' is a registered trademark as a descriptive name for the sub
sold in Subway Restaurants and not intended to be a measurement of
length."[63]

Franchise relations[edit]
In 1995, Subway Sandwich Shops, Fred DeLuca, Peter Buck, and Doctor's
Associates Inc. were held liable for breach of contract. An Illinois
jury awarded more than $10 million in damages to Nicholas and Victoria
Jannotta after finding lease and contract violations. The plaintiffs
claimed the defendants had misrepresented the asset value of Subway
Sandwich Shops (a leasing company used by Doctor's Associates for
franchising purposes) while negotiating a 1985 lease agreement.[64]

The U.S. House of Representatives' small business committee studied
the franchise industry from 1992 to 1998. Dean Sagar noted, "Subway is
the biggest problem in franchising and emerges as one of the key
examples of every abuse you can think of."[65] In 1989, the U.S. Small
Business Administration refused small business loans to Subway
franchise owners until Subway removed a contract clause which gave it
power to seize and purchase any franchise without cause. The Dallas
Morning News reported Subway had seized American soldier Leon Batie
Jr.'s Subway stores in 2006 while he was serving in
Afghanistan.[66][67] He had been deployed to support Operation
Enduring Freedom in March 2005, three years after buying his first
restaurant.[66][67] Batie alleged Subway had violated the U.S.
Servicemembers Civil Relief Act. He filed a federal lawsuit against
Subway, which was dismissed. He then filed suit in state court, in
Dallas County, Texas. Both parties settled on "mutually agreeable" and
confidential terms in January 2010.[68]

United Kingdom VAT treatment[edit]
In October 2010, Subway franchisees in the United Kingdom lost a high
court appeal, against paying standard VAT on all toasted subs, as
required by HM Revenue and Customs. Thus, in the United Kingdom, a
toasted sub attracts VAT, whereas a cold sub, eaten off the premises,
does not. Competitors such as Quiznos & McDonald's do not pay VAT on
similar food.[69][70][71]

In March 2012, Chancellor of the Exchequer, George Osborne announced
plans to close the loophole that allows Subway competitors to offer
hot food without paying VAT. This legislation was expected to come
into force from October 2012 onward,[72] but the government withdrew
plans to charge VAT on originally hot food being allowed to cool
naturally on 28 May 2012.[73] In June 2012, Subway launched the "Toast
the Tax" campaign to put pressure on the government to drop VAT on
toasted sandwiches, as it has done for hot savouries.[74]

Casey's trademark case against Subway[edit]
On January 31, 2011, Subway lawyer Valerie Pochron, wrote to Casey's
General Stores, a chain of Iowa-based convenience stores, demanding
the small chain to cease using the term "footlong" in advertisements
for its 12-inch sandwiches. Subway threatened to sue. Consequently, in
February 2011, Casey's General Stores Inc. filed a petition in a U.S.
District Court in Des Moines, seeking a legal declaration that the
word "footlong" does not violate Subway's rights.[75] Casey's further
sought a declaration that the word "footlong' is a generic description
of a sandwich measuring one foot.[76][77] Before serving its complaint
on Subway, Casey's voluntarily dismissed its action, ending the
litigation.[78]

Subway's trademark application for "footlong" has yet to be approved
by the federal government. Subway has attempted to register it with
the United States Patent and Trademark Office twice. They filed on
November 8, 2007,[79] and June 4, 2009.[80] A&W, Pizza Hut, KFC, Taco
Bell (all of which are Yum Brands restaurants), Long John Silver's,
and other restaurants are opposing that application.[81]

Ingredients[edit]
Subway made alterations to its bread after food blogger and activist
Vani Hari gathered more than 50,000 signatures in a petition drive.
Subway removed azodicarbonamide from its bread.[82] Before Vani Hari's
petition, Subway had used azodicarbonamide as a bread conditioner, to
whiten the dough and allow sandwich bread to bake more quickly. The
ingredient is still used by other fast food restaurants.[83]

In August 2015, Vani Hari again petitioned Subway in conjunction with
Natural Resources Defense Council, Friends of the Earth, the Center
for Food Safety, U.S. Public Interest Research Group to commit to
buying meat produced without the routine use of antibiotics and to
provide a timeline for doing so.[84] In October 2015, Subway announced
they would transition to chicken raised without antibiotics in 2016
and turkey within the following 2–3 years, and would also transition
beef and pork raised without antibiotics by 2025.[85][86]

Soy protein in chicken products[edit]
In an investigation by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC)'s
consumer affairs television series Marketplace aired in February 2017,
chicken from five fast food restaurants were lab-tested to determine
constituents. While DNA testing found between 84.9% and 89.4% of the
DNA from other restaurants' chicken products to be chicken DNA, with
the remaining being unidentifiable plant DNA, on the two Subway
chicken items tested, 53.6% and 42.8% of the DNA was found to be
chicken, with the remainder being mostly soy. Although ingredients
listings did show soy protein to be a constituent of both of the
chicken products, Subway states that the proportion is less than or
equal to 1%, and that the finding of about 50% soy DNA is not
representative of the actual amount of soy in the product. Subway has
called CBC's report "absolutely false and misleading" and demanded
that it be retracted. Meanwhile, however, Subway Canada stated that it
was investigating with its supplier to ensure that the proportion of
soy protein was as per expectations.[87][88][89][90][91]

On March 16, 2017, the Toronto Star reported that Subway intended to
sue the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation for $210 million; the
company stated that "despite our efforts to share the facts with the
CBC about the high quality of our chicken and to express our strong
objections to their inaccurate claims, they have not issued a
retraction, as we requested. Serving high-quality food to our
customers is our top priority, and we are committed to seeing that
this factually incorrect report is corrected." As of April 2017, the
CBC had not retracted its stories, and continued to defend its
testing, considering it to be "sound journalism". They further stated
that the broadcaster "has never made the claim that Subway alleges in
their latest statement."[92]

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[Ophelia]

wrote in message news:fv5igc5mnv05cp75c...@4ax.com...

On Tue, 2 May 2017 18:09:46 +0100, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>"dsi1" wrote in message
>news:eed9e8db-8872-49cd...@googlegroups.com...
>
>On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 3:09:18 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> I am very pleased you enjoyed your lunch:))
>>
>> As for dough ... as I pointed out in another post, I have been baking
>> bread
>> for decades and have never, ever, had the smell that comes from Subway!
>>
>> --
>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>
>Most people here have baked bread. What's different is that we don't use
>pre-made, frozen, dough. My guess is that the loaves are simply defrosted
>and baked. Subway could probably fix the problem by changing their
>procedures and processes but you don't really want to mess with success.
>
>==
>
>I'm not sure how successful it is when it puts people off eating there.

Subway is the most succsessful fast food companies on the planet, why
I've no idea.

Subway (restaurant)

==

Humongous snip! Thanks, errr I think:)

I am sure it is popular or they wouldn't exist but that doesn't make it
smell any better for me <g>






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[Cheri]

"Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:emt90d...@mid.individual.net...

Yes, some smells can be really nauseating. Grease smells in some small donut
shops do that to me.

Cheri

[Ophelia]

"Cheri" wrote in message news:oebs1...@news6.newsguy.com...

==

Odd though, eh? If it is known that they don't do anything about it. I
can't be the only person that would be put off.



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[Bruce]

On Wed, 3 May 2017 09:39:10 +0100, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

These people put up to 40% soy in their "chicken". I wouldn't have
high expectations of them.

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:p86jgc9ftiapre8f3...@4ax.com...

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I don't ;p

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[Ed Pawlowski]

On 5/3/2017 1:20 AM, Sqwertz wrote:

>>
>> Look at the Sales Per Unit comapred to the reast of the top 10.
>>
>> https://www.qsrmagazine.com/reports/qsr50-2015-top-50-chart
>>
>> Subway has taken a nosedive due to over-saturation and will go the way
>> of Boston Market.
>
> Correction: Subway Sandwiches has the *lowest* sales per store of ANY
> of the top 50 fast food restaurants in the world.
>
> https://www.qsrmagazine.com/reports/qsr50-2015-top-50-chart?sort=2014_avg_sales&dir=asc
>
> Il'll be muchas happy when Subway starts to implode, soon...
>
> -sw
>

As will I. Maybe it is only a local franchise in my town, but they have
shady labor practices as well. My granddaughter got a job there. After
one day she could not cut it. OK, no big deal. The owner did not want
to pay her since it was training. I went with her next day. They paid
her while the lunch crowd looked on.

[The Greatest!]

Excellent, good for you...


--
Best
Greg

[Ophelia]

"The Greatest!" wrote in message
news:8bf3d79c-a793-4b29...@googlegroups.com...

Greg

==

Yes. They don't mind bullying a young lassie but when a big Grandpa strides
in it is a different story!

Pah!

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[The Greatest!]

Some sneaky places think that they can get away with "unpaid" training. If someone is in "training", then they've been hired for the job, and are due their proper pay...

Unfortunately, this practice is common - place...so yes, Pah! indeed, Ms. O....

Subway is one of those places where, after you eat, you still feel hungry...


--
Best
Greg

[Sheldon Katz]

On 5/3/2017 11:10 AM, The Greatest Hog! wrote:
> Subway is one of those places where, after you eat, you still feel hungry...
>
>

You're always hungry, you fat bastard!

http://imgur.com/a/BbBLI LOL!!!

[Ophelia]

"The Greatest!" wrote in message

news:30bcae87-4e43-4e71...@googlegroups.com...

Greg

===

I am pleased to say I have never tried it, nor apparently wasted any money
in it <g>

As I keep saying, the smell puts me off:(


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[dsi1]

As it goes, I could stand knee deep in pig dung and not smell or feel a thing. It's a super power I get from time to time. :)

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:2410fb00-088f-4c71...@googlegroups.com...

==

It must be a bit of a worry though. You might eat something that is very
bad and not be aware :(



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[dsi1]

That's true. I can't tell if some funny looking fish or old food is bad/tainted. As with all super powers, there is always one super vulnerability.

[penm...@aol.com]

On Tue, 2 May 2017 23:02:52 -0700, "Cheri" <che...@newsguy.com>
wrote:

I copied and pasted the entire article because the wiki url as devised
would only take you to the subway systems (railroads/trains), the
Dopey Dwarf had toknow that... and I didn't want to cherry pick which
part to post... and I assumed (other than Dopey Dwarf) any normal
brained person would read only so far as desired.

>> I am sure it is popular or they wouldn't exist but that doesn't make it
>> smell any better for me <g>
>
>Yes, some smells can be really nauseating. Grease smells in some small donut
>shops do that to me.
>
>Cheri

I've actually never been inside a Dunkin' Donuts and I have only
passed while driving so haven't smelled their donuts... but I do enjoy
baked donuts, I used to like Entennman's baked donuts but since it's
been under new ownership all their products are awful... I used to
like thier baked chocolate devils food donuts but the last time I
bought a box I ate part of one and fed the rest to the crows.

[Sheldon Katz]

On 5/3/2017 11:58 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> As I keep saying, the smell puts me off:(
>

Imagine how shitty this smells with that sheboon and hog...

https://postimg.io/image/addur1fn9/

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:7e7f68c7-8509-4c1a...@googlegroups.com...

==

Hmm well you be careful!!




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[sanne]

Like a certain someone in the movie "The Recipe"...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1773083/

Bye, Sanne.

[dsi1]

I shall stay away from tainted food like Superman avoids kryptonite. :)

[dsi1]

I saw that movie and liked it. I'm not proud of that - it's kind of a sentimental chick flick. It created a mythology around a recipe. I like films like that.

[sf]

On Mon, 01 May 2017 18:07:39 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
<waynebo...@xgmail.com> wrote:

> None of the "sub" shops I've ever eaten in satisfieed me. In Phoenix
> we have Jimmy John's, Quiznos, Port of Subs, Subway, Blimpie, and a
> fair number of indepedent non-chain shops. Either I don't like the
> selection of meats, cheese, rolls, or condiments, or whatever passes
> for the end result.
>
> We have two different family owned and run Italian markets where I
> can find more types of meats and cheesesthat are all top quality and
> imported from Italy. Everything is sliced to order and to the
> requested thinness. I'd much rather take a selection of all the
> ingredienets home with me and make my own.
>
> That's what suits me. :-)

We have Vikings Subs here, love the dressing they put on their
lettuce. Have not been able to reproduce it at home. It's some form
of Italian dressing, but I was never able to do it back when I wanted
to. Now, one sub every 5 years is often. So it's not something I
care about anymore. I like their sandwiches and they do the fries
right.


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