the benefits of proper lard

[A Moose in Love]

on the front page of the wall street journal, there is usually an article that is not necessarily related to business. a few years back i read one of these articles. it dealt with lard and mentioned how lard contains good heart healthy nutrients. i would have never thought so. below is a site which shows some of the benefits of good proper lard.
i say 'good proper lard' because much commercial lard has been hydrogenated. leaf lard is the best but it costs. i've read $20.00 per pound, but the link below shows a much cheaper price per pound.

https://fannieandflo.net/products/1-pound-leaf-lard


https://www.prevention.com/food-nutrition/a20488068/should-you-be-eating-lard/

[John Kuthe]

I believe it!! We animals were meant to live "in concert" with each other! My mommy always bought Parkay Margarine which while good (sweet!) it's NOT BUTTER!! I switched to only BUTTER after I moved out of mommy and daddy's house and I never regretted it!

The REAL foods are normally The Best! All this stupid hyper-processed food crap is NOT The Best!

John Kuthe, Climate Activist!

[A Moose in Love]

processed foods, a lot of them are not really food. i try to eat non processed as much as possible. as a family, we were taken in by the pro margarine movement. later on though we went back to butter. i'll never purchase margarine.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Ironically, I have a good source of non-hydrogenated lard.
But I never make anything that would use it.

Cindy

[John Kuthe]

Exactly! Parkay is PoWhiteTrashFood!! My parents were Depression Age!

John Kuthe, Climate Activist!

[col...@gmail.com]

Margarine tasted better when it had more transfats.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, March 18, 2019 at 8:54:08 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
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> Ironically, I have a good source of non-hydrogenated lard.
> But I never make anything that would use it.
>
> Cindy
>

Pie crusts? Biscuits? Refried beans?

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, March 18, 2019 at 10:30:00 AM UTC-5, col...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Margarine tasted better when it had more transfats.
>

That's because you had no butter in front of you to taste compare.

[Nancy2]

Cindy, biscuits and pie crust are really good with lard. But maybe those things aren't items
you bake.

N.

[Ophelia]

"Nancy2" wrote in message
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I was raised with lard pastry and I love it:) I still make it.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Nope, nope, and oh, hell, no.

Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

I don't bake, except for a batch of chocolate chip cookies (with butter)
every two or three years.

I have made pie and biscuits (pretty good biscuits, too), but I just
don't eat that way. Once in a while I buy a personal-size pie at the
bakery. Biscuits have never really been a regular part of my diet.

Cindy Hamilton

[Gary]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
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> Once in a while I buy a personal-size pie at the bakery.

Except for a holiday (when I'll make a sweet potato pie or two)
that's all I do to. Just buy a tiny pie for a dollar. It's not as
good as homemade but it's quick and easy (and often includes some
very nifty chemical ingredients). If I make a whole pie, I eat
too much too quickly.

Two or three times, someone baked me a homemade apple pie for my
birthdays. I ate nothing but apple pie until they were finished.
:)

[Dave Smith]

On 2019-03-19 11:16 a.m., Gary wrote:

> Two or three times, someone baked me a homemade apple pie for my
> birthdays. I ate nothing but apple pie until they were finished.
> :)

My mother always wanted to have a fresh peach pie for her birthday
instead of cake. The problem was that her birthday was July 24, which
was always a few days short of peach season. We always had to look far
and wide for peaches ripe enough to make one.

[John Kuthe]

Lard helps baked goods"crisp up" very well and deliciously!!

That is a Baking Truth! I'm a baker, I KNOW!

John Kuthe, Climate Activist!

[Cindy Hamilton]

The bakery I patronize costs considerably more than a dollar
for a personal-sized pie. They use lard and butter in the
crust and it's much better than I could make myself.

In fact, I can get two servings out of their pie. The upside
is that the crust-to-filling ratio is higher than for a full-size
pie.

I agree about making and eating all of something. That's a big
reason I don't bake.

Cindy Hamilton

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Really?? Why?? I've had refried beans made with Crisco and they were pretty
bad. This was at a Mexican restaurant and they proudly stated they no longer
used lard, an important component in that dish.

[dsi1]

I'll look for lard but it's not going to be easy on a rock that has hardly any Mexicans. Thanks.

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
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Odd that. We can buy lard everywhere, but I don't know of any Mexicans ...
;p

[Cindy Hamilton]

I don't like beans, especially mushy beans. Nasty texture.

Cindy Hamilton

[cshenk]

I think its something you grow up with an think nothing about it. The
mouth feel of undercooked ones is not something I like and many types
have to be a bit mushy t be really done right. Butterbeans are an
example as are black eyed peas (from dried).

[cshenk]

Grin, you do know Lard isnt about Mexicans right? Lots of others use
it and it definately was sold in Hawaii when I was there.

[dsi1]

On Tuesday, March 19, 2019 at 10:06:36 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
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> Odd that. We can buy lard everywhere, but I don't know of any Mexicans ...
> ;p

There are a lot of niche items sold on the mainland that don't reach here. I can't buy curing salt, guns, and lard, at the local Walmart. The good news is that it's quite easy to purchase poi and poke around here. :)

[cshenk]

A quick google showed Hawaiians assume Lard is only used by mexicans?
Odd since Europeans brought it to them.

http://wildpiginfo.msstate.edu/history-wild-pigs.html

For fun, where the name wall street comes from:
https://www.austinchronicle.com/food/2009-04-10/764573/

Anyways, it is a little more commmon where you are but not hard here
(or in my previous Hawaii time, hard there).

[dsi1]

Hawaiian do indeed raise pigs. Any lard consumed here is made at home or shipped over and sold as Mexican manteca. I have seen manteca in stores sometimes but only in the "ethnic" section of stores. That stuff hardly flies off the shelves because we don't have a tradition of using the stuff. I suspect that Chinese professional use lard for baking but I cannot say for sure. The next time I'm in the restaurant supply store, I'll look for it. It is doubtful that I'd buy lard because the idea of pig fat is kind of repulsive.

[Ophelia]

"cshenk" wrote in message
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Perhaps it has changed since your time there?

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
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That is a shame:( It makes wonderful Rough Puff pastry! It is my
preference. But, if you find something repulsive it is definitely 'out'!
You can use butter instead though so all is not lost:))

[Cindy Hamilton]

I grew up not eating beans, although baked beans and bean soup were
both on the table. Whenever they made something I wouldn't eat, I
got macaroni with butter, salt, and pepper.

When I make Texas Caviar, I buy frozen BEPs and cook them until they
are toothsome. I hate the mealy texture of a fully cooked bean. I
can tolerate putting a can of great northerns in a pot of soup where
there are a lot of other textures going on.

Cindy Hamilton

[songbird]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
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> I don't like beans, especially mushy beans. Nasty texture.

i grow several kinds and some hold up to three hours of
cooking without getting mushy - i like using them in the
tex-mex chili (i cook them for a few hours first in plain
water and then combine them).

but if you don't really like beans in general there are
many other things to eat instead anyways...


songbird

[Gary]

songbird wrote:
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> but if you don't really like beans in general there are
> many other things to eat instead anyways...

About 6 McDonald's hamburgers come to mind here. :) lol (JK)
Bruce will like that comment though.

[dsi1]

On Wednesday, March 20, 2019 at 10:14:07 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
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> That is a shame:( It makes wonderful Rough Puff pastry! It is my
> preference. But, if you find something repulsive it is definitely 'out'!
> You can use butter instead though so all is not lost:))

Contrary to the popular beliefs of people that don't live here, there was no lard to be found at the Safeway. What I did see was pork fat. I'll just render the stuff myself. Thanks. :)

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
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Aye, things change over time! Do you mean you will make your own lard??
Wow!!

[dsi1]

Yes, I have 2 lbs of fat in the refrigerator. I have reservations about making a fruit pie with the fat from an animal but a meat pie would be entirely appropriate - well, in my mind, at least.

[dsi1]

On Wednesday, March 20, 2019 at 2:11:19 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:

That history of the pig is not entirely correct. The Hawaiians brought the pig over from Polynesia. Capt. Cook might have brought some over but pigs were already an important animal to the Hawaiians. This means that you could say that the Hawaiian pig is native to America. How did the pigs get to Polynesia? China, of course.

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
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Whatever works for you:)) Good luck:)

[cshenk]

Maybe safeway dosent have it but I was able to get it at several places
1986-1989 when I lived there

[cshenk]

Possible! Not that likely though. More likely is he has a limited set
of stores he uses so not seeing it.

[A Moose in Love]

the sobey's store here has duck fat for sale. never bought any. the old folks used to take a piece of rye bread and spread some duck or goose fat on it along with raw garlic and hot real hot peppers. ouch. not for me though.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, March 23, 2019 at 6:15:14 PM UTC-5, A Moose in Love wrote:
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> the sobey's store here has duck fat for sale. never bought any. the old folks used to take a piece of rye bread and spread some duck or goose fat on it along with raw garlic and hot real hot peppers. ouch. not for me though.
>

By golly, that sounds like a jim dandy birth control method to me.

[graham]

Use it to roast potatoes!! You'll be converted!!

[Ophelia]

"cshenk" wrote in message
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You don't think some things might have changed in 30 years?

[cshenk]

Here we can get it too (not common though). I cook up a duck every 6-8
weeks here and save the fat for cooking other things. Just about to
make another one as I used up the last of it.

[A Moose in Love]

do you use the roast duck carcass for making a stock?

[cshenk]

Sure but generally a food doesn't 'go away'. It's possible though as I
said. It's more likely I shopped different places than he does now.
For example, Ala Moana was walking distance for me. I don't have the
impression it is from him (nor am I fishing for actual PII addresses
here). I don't know even for sure if he lives on Oahu which would make
a big difference.

[cshenk]

A favorite simple recipe is to use the below but not 'exact' recipe.
I'm an eyeball cook after all!

Cube roughly 2-3 cups of potatos
Chop 1 medium sized onion (volume about 1/3 of the potatos)
2 TB (heaping is 3 cups potatoes) duck fat
2 TB olive oil
Spices as desired

Using a cast iron large skillet, cook with a lid and stir about every
20 minutes until done to your liking.

[Cindy Hamilton]

He lives in Kanehoe.

Cindy Hamilton

[Ophelia]

"cshenk" wrote in message
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Well whatever you think best. I lived in Malta for 4 years, but I would
never deign to tell anyone anything about it after 30 years.

[Ophelia]

"cshenk" wrote in message
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> > the sobey's store here has duck fat for sale. never bought any.
>
> Use it to roast potatoes!! You'll be converted!!

A favorite simple recipe is to use the below but not 'exact' recipe.
I'm an eyeball cook after all!

Cube roughly 2-3 cups of potatos
Chop 1 medium sized onion (volume about 1/3 of the potatos)
2 TB (heaping is 3 cups potatoes) duck fat
2 TB olive oil
Spices as desired

Using a cast iron large skillet, cook with a lid and stir about every
20 minutes until done to your liking.

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Yummmm!

[Dave Smith]

I will have to buy some. I have sworn off cooking ducks because even the
best I have done weren't very good, and most of them turned out really
badly. I gave up years ago. A couple years ago I relented and tried
another, and it was a failure.

[Bruce]

My dad used to eat the eyeballs of rabbits so he would have liked your
cooking.

[Bruce]

On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 08:29:56 -0700 (PDT), col...@gmail.com wrote:

>Margarine tasted better when it had more transfats.

When you're dead you can't taste bupkis.

[cshenk]

I do as well. All parts are used.

[Leonard Blaisdell]

In article <mkkf9ehkdm712tq0q...@4ax.com>, Bruce

<br...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> My dad used to eat the eyeballs of rabbits so he would have liked your
> cooking.

So...was eating rabbit eyeballs a Dutch thing or just a meal from your
village? Do you have a recipe? How many eyeballs per person? I'd figure
two deer eyeballs but maybe eight rabbit eyeballs per person. What did
he eat with them? What was the seasoning? Was there any seasoning? So
many questions. I should probably google, but I won't.

leo

[Bruce]

I don't know how my mother cooked the rabbit. I just know that my dad
ate the eyeballs and made sure we saw that. It's a dad thing, not a
Dutch thing.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Sunday, March 24, 2019 at 11:40:42 PM UTC-5, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>
> In article <mkkf9ehkdm712tq0q...@4ax.com>, Bruce
> <br...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> > My dad used to eat the eyeballs of rabbits so he would have liked your
> > cooking.
>
> So...was eating rabbit eyeballs a Dutch thing or just a meal from your
> village?
>

> leo
>
Humphrey Bogart once said "Here's looking at you, kid."

[Leonard Blaisdell]

In article <ming9elnmgf5pab7g...@4ax.com>, Bruce

<br...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> I don't know how my mother cooked the rabbit. I just know that my dad
> ate the eyeballs and made sure we saw that. It's a dad thing, not a
> Dutch thing.

I understand. Hands down, he was a manlier man than me. The best I can
do is raw oysters.

leo

[Bruce]

Same here.

[dsi1]

The three markets in my little burg did not have it. My in-laws were ex-Army, I never saw them once going to a supermarket to buy anything. They always shopped for groceries on base. You'd have to be pretty dumb to do otherwise. They sell food ridiculously cheap at the commissaries. What where the names of the several stores that you purchased this mythical, magical, and oh-so-commonplace, manteca?

[Average Person]

Praise the Lard !!!!!

[dsi1]

On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 2:07:33 PM UTC-10, Average Person wrote:
> Praise the Lard !!!!!

You bastard! That was my line!