OT: I DID IT!!!

[John Kuthe]

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No Crying, NO QUITTING!! :-)

Namaste

John Kuthe...

[Ed Pawlowski]

Congratulations. I know that is an important dream for you, now real.
Hope you have lots of happiness there.

[Mike_Duffy]

On Wed, 23 May 2018 12:40:01 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:

Does your city require a permit from renters to occupy an adress? Some
jurisdictions will require a permit from the owner to rent out a property,
but never anything from the renter. Or do you own the property?

[John Kuthe]

I own outright. Paid cash, closed Oct 31 2017. Bel; Nor has a new local ordinances, etc. but I directly ASKED DianaK the City Clerk of Bel Nor how many non related people could I rent to and she said THREE but I have to pay for and schedule a NEW inspection and add them to the Occupancy List, and thery have to have their ID's photocopied and keprt in a Bel Nor file cabinet!

Just another way for our fucking Government to control us! :-(

John Kuthe...

[Bruce]

So how would you rate living in the land of the free?

[Cindy Hamilton]

Bel Nor is essentially a college town. I'm not saying it's reasonable,
but perhaps it was enacted to combat abuses like 20 people living in
enough space for 5.

Cindy Hamilton

[penm...@aol.com]

There's also the not so little item of reporting the rent income to
IRS.... IRS will never believe an owner of a multi unit residence is
not collecting rent.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Sure. But that doesn't require registering one's renters with the city
government. Ann Arbor certainly doesn't do that. The IRS simply relies
on its usual menace for correctly reporting income.

Cindy Hamilton

[dsi1]

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 4:40:36 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
>
> There's also the not so little item of reporting the rent income to
> IRS.... IRS will never believe an owner of a multi unit residence is
> not collecting rent.

We call those residences "Monster Homes." It's become such a problem that Hawaii just enacted a temporary ban on building these things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4r7FzvGE4Y

[Cheri]

"Cindy Hamilton" <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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LOL at the "usual menace." How true.

Cheri

[Sqwertz]

So your "retirement income" is dwindling. Right now you can only
rent to one person. And eventually only 3 people. Which is still
less than the 4 you counted on for that "retirement income". Even 4
people is only 1,600/month - utilities, upkeep, $100K roof, stained
glass bathroom windows, recording studio, transistor organ, a 2nd
electric car...

-sw

[Alex]

Or people on Usenet that drop a dime.

[dsi1]

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 2:47:46 PM UTC-10, Alex wrote:
>
> Or people on Usenet that drop a dime.

People just love not having to deal with the tax system. I had to have a car towed yesterday and called a tow company. I went to the office to pay them and they said it was $80. I gave them $100 and told them the extra was for lunch. I told them no "receipt." That made them happy. As I was waiting for the tow, I saw the office girl running into the mall to get lunch. They may have been waiting for someone to come in with some cash so they could get lunch. As it goes, you get better, happier, service with cash deals.

[Mike_Duffy]

On Fri, 25 May 2018 03:38:50 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> Bel Nor is essentially a college town.

That might explain a lot. The rule might also be an attempt to prevent a
special type of fraud perpetrated against college kids:

During the summer, owner uses Craig's list etc. to rent to multiple renters
(Collects 1st & last month's rent depending on local laws, etc.). Owner
perhaps sells house in August to yet someone else, or perhaps skips town
for a few weeks in September. A variant of the scam is for the renter to
impersonate the owner during the last few months of the lease.

Owner will be eventually found liable to re-imbursement & damages *if* any
of the renters has enough money left over after renting somewhere else at
last-minute rates to hire a tort lawyer within the time limit for a civil
lawsuit. But enough will not bother that the entire scam is profitable
until 'word of mouth' is able to alert enough students to the identity of
known scam operators. Most organizations will be afraid of 'nuisance'
countersuits if said identities are publicised without legal scrutiny.

[John Kuthe]

Right, and I don't have a problem with only having three renters. WE don't want to stuff the house full either, just enough. 4 bedrooms, so I can have three renters.

John Kuthe...

John

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 5/26/2018 3:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:

> People just love not having to deal with the tax system. I had to have a car towed yesterday and called a tow company. I went to the office to pay them and they said it was $80. I gave them $100 and told them the extra was for lunch. I told them no "receipt." That made them happy. As I was waiting for the tow, I saw the office girl running into the mall to get lunch. They may have been waiting for someone to come in with some cash so they could get lunch. As it goes, you get better, happier, service with cash deals.
>

Oh, yes you do. I've saved a bunch paying cash for some services. I
found it to be very popular in Europe too.

[dsi1]

Support your local small businesses by paying in cash and telling them upfront "I don't need no stinkin' receipt." Spread the joy.

[Alex]

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 25 May 2018 20:47:37 -0400, Alex wrote:

>
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> Sure. But that doesn't require registering one's renters with the city
>>> government. Ann Arbor certainly doesn't do that. The IRS simply relies
>>> on its usual menace for correctly reporting income.

>> Or people on Usenet that drop a dime.

> John's taxes are already going to be scrutinized much more closely
> after the inheritance and with his newfound investment income.
>
> -sw
If the inheritance didn't go through probate, the government will never
know. Even if it did, I don't know if the IRS will make a connection -
or even care - since it wasn't enough for inheritance taxes.

[Gary]

John Kuthe wrote:
>
> Right, and I don't have a problem with only having three renters. WE don't want to stuff the house full either, just enough. 4 bedrooms, so I can have three renters.

What if a young couple wants to rent and share a room?
Pretty common with college kids.
Probably just put one on the lease and not mention the
other. Could always be claimed later that the other
was just a guest spending the night often.

[John Kuthe]

We had a couple in a single third floor room for a while, We figured the room rent was the room rent but we split the utilities with both of them. We had 4 bedrooms and normally we paid the rent to the landlord and we split the utilities up among housemates, normally four. But with both of them taking a share it was cheaper for everyone splitting all utilities up FIVE ways!

Socialism WORKS for everyone!

John Kuthe...

[Gary]

You misread my question. You said your permit will allow 3
non-family members to live in your house. That rents out your 3
extra bedrooms if singles rent them.

My point was....say a couple want to live together and share a
room. According to you, that's 2 people in one room. The second
available bedroom could be rented out to a single. That right
there is 3 non-family members living in your house - the legal
limit. To stay legal, your 3rd available bedroom would have to
remain empty and you lose rent on that one.

[John Kuthe]

On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 12:11:12 PM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
...

> You misread my question. You said your permit will allow 3
> non-family members to live in your house. That rents out your 3
> extra bedrooms if singles rent them.
>
> My point was....say a couple want to live together and share a
> room. According to you, that's 2 people in one room. The second
> available bedroom could be rented out to a single. That right
> there is 3 non-family members living in your house - the legal
> limit. To stay legal, your 3rd available bedroom would have to
> remain empty and you lose rent on that one.

You MISUNDERSTAND what an Occupancy Permit Inspection for a private home entails! Typically ONLY done upon sale when the Government feels it has a LEGAL chance to get into MY business!

And I achieved one! So PISS OFF PURCHASERS!!

Take your overcomplicating a pencil and shove it!

John Kuthe...