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Chicken Pot Pie in the Ninja Foodi

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itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Feb 21, 2019, 7:10:26 PM2/21/19
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Really, really good and pretty simple to make. It called for frozen green peas
or any other vegetable of your choice. I chose a cup of frozen cubed hash browns
as my addition. It also called for a teaspoon and a half of chopped fresh thyme,
but all I had was McCormick's dried thyme and I used a slightly rounded teaspoon.
Dried herbs are stronger than fresh and I believe I could have gotten away with
just 3/4 teaspoon.

It also called for 2 teaspoons of kosher salt but that is something I do not
stock. I used a slightly rounded teaspoon of regular salt it was the perfect
amount; not lacking salt nor too salty.

A store bought crust topped this pie because I am lazy.

Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl

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Feb 21, 2019, 7:54:12 PM2/21/19
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kosher salt is salt by another name, you would never tell the
difference in a dish, it is basically a marketing scheme. Edible salt
is sodium chloride. That means sea salt, table salt, kosher salt, ALL
salt. The only salt that may have a slightly different flavor is
iodized salt.

Bummer I guess no one read my other post.

--

____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____

U.S. Janet B.

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Feb 21, 2019, 8:03:51 PM2/21/19
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Whether you can taste the difference or not . . .
Kosher salt is larger grained than ordinary table salt and weighs far
less for an equal volume of table salt. So substituting one for the
other means you need to make adjustment in amounts.

U.S. Janet B.

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Feb 21, 2019, 8:05:06 PM2/21/19
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 16:10:23 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

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sounds good, Joan. I'm happy you are pleased with the Foodi.
Janet US

Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl

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Feb 21, 2019, 8:18:59 PM2/21/19
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 18:03:45 -0700, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>
so basically what you are saying is it is coarse sea salt?

except kosher salt may contain additional chemicals. That is not
something I would want in my salt. If the recipe calls for kosher salt
just use coarse sea salt....

Kosher salt is sodium chloride without iodine but may contain
anticaking agents

Sea salt is by far the most natural and best tasting salt because it
contains no added chemicals

Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl

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Feb 21, 2019, 8:20:51 PM2/21/19
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 18:04:59 -0700, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>
wrote:
I could not get into using a pressure cooker, the cooking options are
too limited, I much prefer an airfryer.

Bruce

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Feb 21, 2019, 8:35:22 PM2/21/19
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 19:18:53 -0600,
Kroger Salt, Coarse, Kosher
Ingredients: salt.

Diamond Crystal Kosher Salt
Ingredients: salt.

Morton Coarse Kosher Salt
Ingredients: Salt, Yellow Prussiate of Soda (Anti-Caking Agent).

Redmond Real Salt, Kosher Salt
Ingredients: Ancient Sea Salt.

<http://www.fooducate.com/app#!page=search&term=kosher+salt>

So, only 1 out of these 4 contains anti-caking agent and 1 even
contains ancient salt. I guess that salt was already around when Moses
parted the seas!

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Feb 21, 2019, 8:42:08 PM2/21/19
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On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 7:05:06 PM UTC-6, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 16:10:23 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Really, really good and pretty simple to make.
>
> sounds good, Joan. I'm happy you are pleased with the Foodi.
> Janet US
>
I'm quite pleased with it as non only is it a pressure cooker, it will steam,
bake, broil, and air fry.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Feb 21, 2019, 8:44:14 PM2/21/19
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On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 7:20:51 PM UTC-6, Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:
>
> I could not get into using a pressure cooker, the cooking options are
> too limited, I much prefer an airfryer.
>
This will appliance will air fry as well as bake, broil, and steam as well as pressure cook.

Ed Pawlowski

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Feb 21, 2019, 9:20:41 PM2/21/19
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On 2/21/2019 8:35 PM, Bruce wrote:

>
> Kroger Salt, Coarse, Kosher
> Ingredients: salt.
>
> Diamond Crystal Kosher Salt
> Ingredients: salt.
>
> Morton Coarse Kosher Salt
> Ingredients: Salt, Yellow Prussiate of Soda (Anti-Caking Agent).
>
> Redmond Real Salt, Kosher Salt
> Ingredients: Ancient Sea Salt.
>
> <http://www.fooducate.com/app#!page=search&term=kosher+salt>
>
> So, only 1 out of these 4 contains anti-caking agent and 1 even
> contains ancient salt. I guess that salt was already around when Moses
> parted the seas!
>

Why do you think he parted the sea? It was part of the salt collection
process. Grab a shovel and follow me.

Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl

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Feb 21, 2019, 9:22:20 PM2/21/19
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On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 12:35:13 +1100, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
LOL yeah but moses never existed.....

Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl

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Feb 21, 2019, 9:23:33 PM2/21/19
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how can a sealed appliance airfry?

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Feb 21, 2019, 10:06:08 PM2/21/19
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When it's used as an air fryer, baker, broiler, steamer, or slower cooker it
is not sealed like a pressure cooker. It has two different lids that enable
it to be a multi-use appliance.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Feb 21, 2019, 10:09:51 PM2/21/19
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On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 8:23:33 PM UTC-6, Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:
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> how can a sealed appliance airfry?
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D_U_gpgBDs

U.S. Janet B.

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Feb 21, 2019, 10:34:06 PM2/21/19
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 19:18:53 -0600,
Let me clarify. Kosher salt is a flake. I believe it has been
through an evaporative process. To my knowledge there are no
additives. I was pointing out that there is a difference when
substituting kosher vs. table salt and vice versa because of weight
and size which you should note since you say you are an experienced
cook to avoid making serious errors. However. Talking about
additives. Sea salt comes from the sea shore and whatever washed up
with it. It would be better to look up ingredients and know what is
in them rather than off the cuff speculation. You are speculating
that iodized salt is the only salt that might taste different.

U.S. Janet B.

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Feb 21, 2019, 10:36:07 PM2/21/19
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The safest thing to do before you reply or say anything is to educate
yourself first. Google is your friend

Bruce

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Feb 21, 2019, 11:45:52 PM2/21/19
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He was a smart fella.

Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl

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Feb 22, 2019, 7:20:41 AM2/22/19
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 20:33:58 -0700, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>
I am sorry but I just could not see myself using a "kosher" salt or
any other product that has gone through a "kashering" just to fill the
need for someone's desire to placate a greedy religion that has
obviously created a way for it to make money for itself. I mean saying
words or taking other measures to please a fairy to me is just utterly
ridiculous.

I am not saying that the jewish religion is the only bad religion, the
christians aka catholics created the jesus fairy as a hero to people
in order to control them and get their money. The greeks did it, the
romans did it, the egyptians did it, the norse did it, the hindu did
it and are still doing it. What is amazing is that it is usually all
the exact same story just retold with different words. There is very
little difference between the jesus fairy and the egyptian horus fairy
or the greek hercules fairy.

The names have been changed in order to modernize these said fairies
but the stories remain the same. Does that mean that osiris the father
of Horus really exists and actually created it by raping a human woman
just as the catholic aka christian god did? So that would also mean
that there are/were thousands of gods that just so happened to
disappear when their time had passed, does that mean the jewish god
will disappear to one day same for the christian aka catholic god?

Sorry for the rant I just really hate religion.. hence the my chosen
nym.

Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl

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Feb 22, 2019, 7:24:32 AM2/22/19
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 19:06:04 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 8:23:33 PM UTC-6, Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 17:44:11 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 7:20:51 PM UTC-6, Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I could not get into using a pressure cooker, the cooking options are
>> >> too limited, I much prefer an airfryer.
>> >>
>> >This will appliance will air fry as well as bake, broil, and steam as well as pressure cook.
>>
>> how can a sealed appliance airfry?
>>
>When it's used as an air fryer, baker, broiler, steamer, or slower cooker it
>is not sealed like a pressure cooker. It has two different lids that enable
>it to be a multi-use appliance.


oh wow that sounds awesome... will it also dehydrate food?

I have been getting into dehydration in the last few days well week or
so. I love dehydrated apples, strawberries, and pineapple is just the
best. I have not dehydrated vegetables yet and any information that
anyone may have would be appreciated about veggies and dehydration
although I have done palazzo peppers but those were pretty easy.

Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl

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Feb 22, 2019, 7:34:39 AM2/22/19
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Wow thanks that was a very informative video. It did answer my
previous question though about dehydration. Thanks!!

Cindy Hamilton

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Feb 22, 2019, 7:38:27 AM2/22/19
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You really should educate yourself. The salt has not undergone "kashering".
Nobody makes money from kosher salt except the manufacturer.

Flake or kosher salt has a specific culinary purpose apart from kashering
meat. It is useful wherever one desires a salt that is sparingly soluble
at cool temperatures. It is easy to pinch from a bowl to get a relatively
consistent quantity compared to sprinkling from a shaker.

You should examine your own religious devotion to sea salt. There's
no taste difference between sea salt and mined salt in blind tests.
If you're using coarse-textured sea salt the same effect can be obtained
with coarse-textured mined salt.

All salt is sea salt. The only difference is when it was evaporated
(now or a million years ago), how much dirt and fish crap has been
removed, and crystal size.

Cindy Hamilton

Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl

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Feb 22, 2019, 8:10:32 AM2/22/19
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Kashering is what would have been done in the days of old and any food

kosher - According to the laws of the Torah,

those are the first words on the description, now if you were starving
and happened to walk into a house and saw a bowl of porridge and it
was a little to warm would you not eat it because you thought it may
belong to papa bear or because it was a little to hot?

>
>Flake or kosher salt has a specific culinary purpose apart from kashering
>meat. It is useful wherever one desires a salt that is sparingly soluble
>at cool temperatures. It is easy to pinch from a bowl to get a relatively
>consistent quantity compared to sprinkling from a shaker.

I am sorry that just makes little sense. Are you saying that you can
not place any type of salt in a bowl and take a pinch or better yet
use measuring devices?

>
>You should examine your own religious devotion to sea salt.

I have no religious devotion at all. I do not believe in fairies or
the evil religious organizations that play on peoples fears in order
to control them.


> There's
>no taste difference between sea salt and mined salt in blind tests.

of course not I never said there was

>If you're using coarse-textured sea salt the same effect can be obtained
>with coarse-textured mined salt.
>
>All salt is sea salt. The only difference is when it was evaporated
>(now or a million years ago), how much dirt and fish crap has been
>removed, and crystal size.

of course it is, on this planet. No one really knows if salt will be
found on planets that do not contain large amounts of water, although
I don't know if I could even picture a large planetary body without
any water whatsoever I mean water is one of the easiest things to make
or form or whatever. The fusion process between hydrogen and oxygen is
very simple and requires only a spark to start it.


>
>Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton

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Feb 22, 2019, 9:08:33 AM2/22/19
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Find out what the exact purpose of salting meat in the kashering
process is, and then we can have a meaningful discussion.

> >Flake or kosher salt has a specific culinary purpose apart from kashering
> >meat. It is useful wherever one desires a salt that is sparingly soluble
> >at cool temperatures. It is easy to pinch from a bowl to get a relatively
> >consistent quantity compared to sprinkling from a shaker.
>
> I am sorry that just makes little sense. Are you saying that you can
> not place any type of salt in a bowl and take a pinch or better yet
> use measuring devices?

Kosher salt is easier to take a pinch. Table salt tends to slip
between the fingers because its crystals are cubic.

Measuring devices certainly have their place. But not, for example,
when salting a turkey prior to roasting.

> >
> >You should examine your own religious devotion to sea salt.
>
> I have no religious devotion at all. I do not believe in fairies or
> the evil religious organizations that play on peoples fears in order
> to control them.

"Sea salt is by far the most natural and best tasting salt because it
contains no added chemicals"

"Most natural" is irrelevant. A salt lick in the woods is most
natural, but I wouldn't make it my first choice in the kitchen.

"Best tasting because it contains no added chemicals" is debatable.
"Best tasting" is a opinion.
"No added chemicals" is a red herring. Un-iodized processed salt
has no added chemicals. Sea salt often has mineral salts from
wherever it happens to come from. But they confer no special
benefit. Magnesium chloride (for example) in sea salt is identical
to manufactured magnesium chloride.

>
> > There's
> >no taste difference between sea salt and mined salt in blind tests.
>
> of course not I never said there was

You said that sea salt is "best tasting". That implies there
is a taste difference.

Cindy Hamilton

Dave Smith

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On 2019-02-22 7:38 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> All salt is sea salt. The only difference is when it was evaporated
> (now or a million years ago), how much dirt and fish crap has been
> removed, and crystal size.



My health food nazi sister in law used to swear that sea salt is saltier
tasting than table salt. While there is a very slight taste of iodine in
table salt (all"table salt" in Canada is iodized), salt is salt. Most of
the salt we get here is mined from old dried up sea beds.



penm...@aol.com

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On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 04:38:24 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Yes, and all salt is kosher... the larger flakes are used for
kashering but it's no more kosher than any other salt... actually
ordinary table salt can be used for kashering. Salt/NACL is a
chemical compound, all chemical compounds are kosher.... all Rx drugs
are kosher as are most OTC drugs... some OTC drugs may contain bivalve
shell as do most vitamin tablets. Anyone using "Sea Salt" needs to
have a discussion with their medical professional as "Sea Salt" is
more than pure NACL, may cause an allergic reaction (shellfish) or may
interact with whatever Rx drugs one is taking, and may contain heavy
metals. Pregnant women should not use "Sea Salt" nor women who are
breast feeding.

Cindy Hamilton

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Feb 22, 2019, 10:42:17 AM2/22/19
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If she uses coarse sea salt, it might give a saltier impact in the mouth.
But, yes. Salt is salt.

I like iodized salt. Un-iodized doesn't taste quite right to me.

Cindy Hamilton

Dave Smith

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Feb 22, 2019, 10:52:56 AM2/22/19
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On 2019-02-22 10:42 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 10:34:23 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-02-22 7:38 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> All salt is sea salt. The only difference is when it was evaporated
>>> (now or a million years ago), how much dirt and fish crap has been
>>> removed, and crystal size.
>>
>>
>>
>> My health food nazi sister in law used to swear that sea salt is saltier
>> tasting than table salt. While there is a very slight taste of iodine in
>> table salt (all"table salt" in Canada is iodized), salt is salt. Most of
>> the salt we get here is mined from old dried up sea beds.
>
> If she uses coarse sea salt, it might give a saltier impact in the mouth.
> But, yes. Salt is salt.

Yes. I agree. I also like to use a coarser salt on foods to get that
bite and feel, especially on meats.


> I like iodized salt. Un-iodized doesn't taste quite right to me.

I prefer not to use iodized salt most of the time. We do have it on hand
and use it some of the time because I am not confident about getting
enough iodine in my diet. FWIW, when my niece was young she suffered
from a goiter. That was when her food nazi mother had to face the fact
that there was a good reason to iodize salt.


Cindy Hamilton

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Feb 22, 2019, 11:01:13 AM2/22/19
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Then again, I like chlorinated water. At least, the chlorinated water
from Detroit. Toledo has pretty tasty water, too. Probably better than
Detroit's.

Cindy Hamilton

Ed Pawlowski

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Feb 22, 2019, 11:22:44 AM2/22/19
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On 2/22/2019 7:20 AM, Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:

>
> I am sorry but I just could not see myself using a "kosher" salt or
> any other product that has gone through a "kashering" just to fill the
> need for someone's desire to placate a greedy religion that has
> obviously created a way for it to make money for itself. I mean saying
> words or taking other measures to please a fairy to me is just utterly
> ridiculous.
>

> Sorry for the rant I just really hate religion.. hence the my chosen
> nym.
>

What you are really doing is showing your ignorance of Kosher salt, what
it is and why it is used.

Any salt can be kosher with no kashering process. Kosher sale it used
for the kashering process because of the way it can draw out the blood
in the process. That aside, yes, salt is salt, but there are
differences. Iodine aside, if you put salt in soup any salt will affect
the flavor the same way for a given volume by weight. Kosher salt,
finishing salts, have a different cut and when put on the top of food
they affect the taste buds differently, this the reason to use them. No
matter your religion, or lack thereof, it is about flavor and texture.

You'll have to find another reason to rant.

notbob

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Feb 22, 2019, 12:27:16 PM2/22/19
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On 2/21/2019 6:42 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

> I'm quite pleased with it as non only is it a pressure cooker, it will steam,
> bake, broil, and air fry.

jes gotta put up with that irremovable lid and the "non-stick" parts. ;)

nb


Gary

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Feb 22, 2019, 12:32:49 PM2/22/19
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Dave Smith wrote:
>
> My health food nazi sister in law used to swear that sea salt is saltier
> tasting than table salt.

IMO, that's just a difference of where her sea salt was from.

Case in point....If someone evaporated ocean water here in
virginia beach to make salt, boy would that be full of crap
coming out of the Chesapeake Bay and it's entire contributing
watershed. Ocean water here is watered down somewhat.

Go 150 or so miles south to Cape Hatteras, NC and the water is
much more pure and most definitely has a higher salt content as
it's not watered down from fresher water from the Cheasapeake Bay
watershed.


> While there is a very slight taste of iodine in
> table salt (all"table salt" in Canada is iodized), salt is salt. Most of
> the salt we get here is mined from old dried up sea beds.

I don't think that "most" of your salt is mined from old sea
beds. I think *all* salt, is from either old sea beds or from
modern evaporation methods. Therefor, all salt is sea salt.

Gary

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Feb 22, 2019, 12:33:22 PM2/22/19
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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> I like iodized salt. Un-iodized doesn't taste quite right to me.

I buy both. I know people need a certain amount of iodine added
but assume it doesn't have to be all that.
Each time I fill my salt shakers, I switch from one to the other.
I really have never tasted a difference though. oh well

penm...@aol.com

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Feb 22, 2019, 12:52:57 PM2/22/19
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On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 06:08:29 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
Salts sold as "Sea Salt" will taste different because they're not pure
NACL, they contain many elements not listed on the package, some may
be harmful.... it's actually not too much different than the rock salt
used for de-icing.

Even pure NACL will have different taste perceptions depending on
crystal size... the larger crystal size of kosher salt will taste
saltier as it dissolves more slowly in the mouth... and for that
reason I prefer salting my buttered bread and other foods with kosher
salt rather than use salted butter or table salt... I never buy salted
butter, it actually contains a lot of salt, more than one Tbs per
pound, however the perception of saltiness is much more intense by
sprinkling with a small amount of kosher salt without increasing ones
salt intake.
Everything about salt:
http://saltinstitute.org/

Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl

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Feb 22, 2019, 3:37:07 PM2/22/19
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On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 06:08:29 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
There is a taste difference in iodized salt and salt with anticaking
agents and any other added chemicals... The point I am trying to make
is just because a salt is jewish does not make it any better than any
other kind of salt. They are the same except maybe other than the
price.

Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl

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Feb 22, 2019, 3:48:12 PM2/22/19
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ya know since you mentioned chlorinated water I just wanted to say
that chlorinated water can make a DAMN good cup of coffee. I have no
idea why but it does. That is if your coffee comes from a decant bean.
That instant crap will taste like shit, and that mass produced coffee
like foldgers will taste like crap.

Now I am from far down south and all of the city water comes from
numerous wells and has no chlorine and is often regarded as the best
tasting water. But it just does not make as good a cup of coffee as
the chlorinated water

Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl

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Feb 22, 2019, 3:53:17 PM2/22/19
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On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 12:32:51 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> My health food nazi sister in law used to swear that sea salt is saltier
>> tasting than table salt.
>
>IMO, that's just a difference of where her sea salt was from.
>
>Case in point....If someone evaporated ocean water here in
>virginia beach to make salt, boy would that be full of crap
>coming out of the Chesapeake Bay and it's entire contributing
>watershed. Ocean water here is watered down somewhat.
>
>Go 150 or so miles south to Cape Hatteras, NC and the water is
>much more pure and most definitely has a higher salt content as
>it's not watered down from fresher water from the Cheasapeake Bay
>watershed.
>

From what I understand they go pretty far off of the he coast to
collect the water then eventually drain them into pools on the ground
where they eventually evaporate away and just leave all the salt where
it is collected, packaged, and sent to the idiots who buy it<which
includes me>
>
>> While there is a very slight taste of iodine in
>> table salt (all"table salt" in Canada is iodized), salt is salt. Most of
>> the salt we get here is mined from old dried up sea beds.
>
>I don't think that "most" of your salt is mined from old sea
>beds. I think *all* salt, is from either old sea beds or from
>modern evaporation methods.

>Therefor, all salt is sea salt.
(on this planet anyway)

Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl

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On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 11:22:39 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 2/22/2019 7:20 AM, Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:
>
>>
>> I am sorry but I just could not see myself using a "kosher" salt or
>> any other product that has gone through a "kashering" just to fill the
>> need for someone's desire to placate a greedy religion that has
>> obviously created a way for it to make money for itself. I mean saying
>> words or taking other measures to please a fairy to me is just utterly
>> ridiculous.
>>
>
>> Sorry for the rant I just really hate religion.. hence the my chosen
>> nym.
>>
>
>What you are really doing is showing your ignorance of Kosher salt, what
>it is and why it is used.

I am saying Kashering (Making Kosher) salt because you can not kosher
something with out it being kosher. for instance you can not kosher
mean with a non kosher salt. Although you actually can, and it is done
all the time.

Let me ask you a question is coarse sea salt the same as kosher salt?
>
>Any salt can be kosher with no kashering process. Kosher sale it used
>for the kashering process because of the way it can draw out the blood
>in the process. That aside, yes, salt is salt, but there are
>differences. Iodine aside, if you put salt in soup any salt will affect
>the flavor the same way for a given volume by weight. Kosher salt,
>finishing salts, have a different cut

I would not go so far as to say different cut, rather table salt is
just a finer grind is all. It is just stupid religious crap that means
NOTHING at all because there are no fairies in the sky anyway


>and when put on the top of food
>they affect the taste buds differently, this the reason to use them. No
>matter your religion, or lack thereof, it is about flavor and texture.
>
>You'll have to find another reason to rant.

Ed Pawlowski

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On 2/22/2019 4:02 PM, Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 11:22:39 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
>> On 2/22/2019 7:20 AM, Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I am sorry but I just could not see myself using a "kosher" salt or
>>> any other product that has gone through a "kashering" just to fill the
>>> need for someone's desire to placate a greedy religion that has
>>> obviously created a way for it to make money for itself. I mean saying
>>> words or taking other measures to please a fairy to me is just utterly
>>> ridiculous.
>>>
>>
>>> Sorry for the rant I just really hate religion.. hence the my chosen
>>> nym.
>>>
>>
>> What you are really doing is showing your ignorance of Kosher salt, what
>> it is and why it is used.
>
> I am saying Kashering (Making Kosher) salt because you can not kosher
> something with out it being kosher. for instance you can not kosher
> mean with a non kosher salt. Although you actually can, and it is done
> all the time.
>
> Let me ask you a question is coarse sea salt the same as kosher salt?
>>

Chemically, close, texturally, no. Sea salt may contain other minerals.
Kosher salt is flaked.


>> Any salt can be kosher with no kashering process. Kosher sale it used
>> for the kashering process because of the way it can draw out the blood
>> in the process. That aside, yes, salt is salt, but there are
>> differences. Iodine aside, if you put salt in soup any salt will affect
>> the flavor the same way for a given volume by weight. Kosher salt,
>> finishing salts, have a different cut
>
> I would not go so far as to say different cut, rather table salt is
> just a finer grind is all. It is just stupid religious crap that means
> NOTHING at all because there are no fairies in the sky anyway
>
Popcorn salt is a finer grind, kosher salt is a different grind. Salt
companies us the old term of kosher salt to differentiate. You have the
hangup of assigning religious rites to it.

The term goes back to about 1920 when salt companies used the term to
sell the salt to Jewish immigrants. It is really marketing, not
religion. Perhaps you should petition Morton and Diamond to change the
name.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 6:24:32 AM UTC-6, Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:
>
> will it also dehydrate food?
>
Some of the models do, mine does.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Feb 22, 2019, 5:11:13 PM2/22/19
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I really find it no problem as I thought it might be annoying when not in use,
but I pay it no attention. The inner pot is the only part that is non-stick
and it should be treated just like a Teflon pan. Again, no problem.

dsi1

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On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 11:40:16 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> Popcorn salt is a finer grind, kosher salt is a different grind. Salt
> companies us the old term of kosher salt to differentiate. You have the
> hangup of assigning religious rites to it.
>
> The term goes back to about 1920 when salt companies used the term to
> sell the salt to Jewish immigrants. It is really marketing, not
> religion. Perhaps you should petition Morton and Diamond to change the
> name.

We like to use Hawaiian salt mixed with red clay to season steaks. It's a salt that's tossed about in Hawaiian ceremonies to ward off evil spirits. Your salt might be kosher but our salt is the real deal holy salt. :)

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Feb 22, 2019, 5:47:39 PM2/22/19
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Not the ninja, from what I saw it only air frys between the temps of
300 and 400 you can not dehydrate at those temps

Julie Bove

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Feb 22, 2019, 6:16:41 PM2/22/19
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"U.S. Janet B." <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 19:18:53 -0600,
> Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 18:03:45 -0700, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 18:54:07 -0600,
>>>Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:
>>>
I thought that was always the case. So imagine my surprise when I got this
salt from Amazon!

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B078H3R3SP/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Gotta watch the wording. It is sea salt that is certified kosher but it is
not what we think of as kosher salt.

Julie Bove

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<Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 20:33:58 -0700, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>
> I am sorry but I just could not see myself using a "kosher" salt or
> any other product that has gone through a "kashering" just to fill the
> need for someone's desire to placate a greedy religion that has
> obviously created a way for it to make money for itself. I mean saying
> words or taking other measures to please a fairy to me is just utterly
> ridiculous.
>
> I am not saying that the jewish religion is the only bad religion, the
> christians aka catholics created the jesus fairy as a hero to people
> in order to control them and get their money. The greeks did it, the
> romans did it, the egyptians did it, the norse did it, the hindu did
> it and are still doing it. What is amazing is that it is usually all
> the exact same story just retold with different words. There is very
> little difference between the jesus fairy and the egyptian horus fairy
> or the greek hercules fairy.
>
> The names have been changed in order to modernize these said fairies
> but the stories remain the same. Does that mean that osiris the father
> of Horus really exists and actually created it by raping a human woman
> just as the catholic aka christian god did? So that would also mean
> that there are/were thousands of gods that just so happened to
> disappear when their time had passed, does that mean the jewish god
> will disappear to one day same for the christian aka catholic god?
>
> Sorry for the rant I just really hate religion.. hence the my chosen
> nym.

I don't think Kosher salt has to do with religion. It's larger pieces of
salt.

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Feb 22, 2019, 6:33:33 PM2/22/19
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That is like saying that the christian religion is not 100 % based on
the rape of a 12 year old girl that later marries a 90 year old man.

Thing is the christian religion is totally based on that fairy tale..

Kosher is a jewish thing .. and just because it does not or may not
carry that meaning now does not mean that it was always like that. All
christians support the rapeing of 14 year old girls just like those
that use kosher salt support jewish morons.... if an idea or product
is made for one specific reason then it carries that meaning with it
forever.

Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl

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Feb 22, 2019, 6:35:07 PM2/22/19
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Ahh so maybe you can understand what I meant in my last post

Ed Pawlowski

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Feb 22, 2019, 6:51:07 PM2/22/19
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Wow, you really are fucked up about religion. I bet we hear about you
on the new some night.

Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl

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Feb 22, 2019, 7:08:55 PM2/22/19
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dude, tell me where I am incorrect....

Just because I am about 150 years ahead of you and most of the world
does not mean I am wrong in any way...

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Feb 22, 2019, 7:20:51 PM2/22/19
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When the dehydrate function is selected the temperature of the pot drops as low
as 150°. It all depends on what function you are using that what your temper-
ature range will be.

graham

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On 2019-02-21 6:35 p.m., Bruce wrote:

>
> Morton Coarse Kosher Salt
> Ingredients: Salt, Yellow Prussiate of Soda AKA Sodium ferrocyanide, which wouldn't look so good on an ingredients list, despite being safe (until you add a bit of acid).

Ed Pawlowski

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Feb 22, 2019, 7:40:05 PM2/22/19
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Not a question of right or wrong, it is a question of what you do about
it.

dsi1

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On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 1:16:41 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I thought that was always the case. So imagine my surprise when I got this
> salt from Amazon!
>
> https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B078H3R3SP/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
> Gotta watch the wording. It is sea salt that is certified kosher but it is
> not what we think of as kosher salt.

You might want to check out a Korean store if you're interested in salt. They have a wide variety of salts. Mostly sea salts. They have some very fine salts and flaky salts and granular salts. The Korean course sea salt differs from Hawaiian salt in that it's crumbly while Hawaiian salt are crystals of salt. The best Korean salt has MSG mixed in. It will greatly improve your dishes.

Sqwertz

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On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 18:54:07 -0600,
Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:

> Bummer I guess no one read my other post.

They probably saw your posting name and automatically killfiled you.
I know I'll never take you seriously after reading your name and
your "Lentil thin cake sandwiches" recipe.

Some people find Christ as their Savior, and some find that Gluten
is their Satan. I think they're both full of shit. But if it makes
them happy, then that's good. Just don't come knocking on my door
promoting either of them.

ObFood: Dinner was 1/4lb Chilli Dogs with Wolf brand Hot Dog Sauce,
shredded cheddar, chopped onion, and jalapeno mustard. Wolf Hot Dog
Sauce is some nasty-ass shit.

-sw

notbob

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On 2/22/2019 3:11 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

it should be treated just like a Teflon pan.

What!? Thrown out?

I jes tossed my only "non-stick" pan after watching a documentary on
"Teflon". It was called "The Devil We Know" and it's about all the ppl
that have suffered due to Teflon manufacturing.

If it kills birds, what's it doing to you? ;)

nb

Sqwertz

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On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 21:50:35 -0600, Sqwertz wrote:

> Some people find Christ as their Savior, and some find that Gluten
> is their Satan. I think they're both full of shit.

Just to clarify: Unless you're a confirmed celiac through a snip of
your cilia and physical examination. Do I need to keep saying that?
99.9% of the gluten avoiders are not celiacs, so...

-sw

Sqwertz

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Feb 22, 2019, 11:04:51 PM2/22/19
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I haven't had a chicken pot pie for at least 20 years. So I bought
one today for $.35, "Clearance" price. Yep, Swanson's brand. So I
had buy it since will probably be my last chance to remember how bad
they were. Could they have gotten better in the last 20 years?

-sw

Ed Pawlowski

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Feb 23, 2019, 12:04:26 AM2/23/19
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Doubt it got any better. Sometimes we had one or two in the freezer for
a quick lunch. Tolerable at best.

U.S. Janet B.

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On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 22:06:19 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
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no, but they have gotten way worse!

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 9:53:16 PM UTC-6, notbob wrote:
>
> On 2/22/2019 3:11 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> it should be treated just like a Teflon pan.
>
> What!? Thrown out?
>
Ummmmm, no. No metal utensils and I have no problem with that.
>
> I jes tossed my only "non-stick" pan after watching a documentary on
> "Teflon". It was called "The Devil We Know" and it's about all the ppl
> that have suffered due to Teflon manufacturing.
>
> If it kills birds, what's it doing to you? ;)
>
> nb
>
You do know you are talking the old, first generation of Teflon, correct?

Sqwertz

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On Sat, 23 Feb 2019 00:04:22 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 2/22/2019 11:06 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> I haven't had a chicken pot pie for at least 20 years. So I bought
>> one today for $.35, "Clearance" price. Yep, Swanson's brand. So I
>> had buy it since will probably be my last chance to remember how bad
>> they were. Could they have gotten better in the last 20 years?
>
> Doubt it got any better. Sometimes we had one or two in the freezer for
> a quick lunch. Tolerable at best.

I couldn't even justify heating up the oven for this dinky little
thing. So it will have to qit until I bake a cake or something.

-sw

Sqwertz

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Feb 23, 2019, 1:47:58 AM2/23/19
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It was already down to 4 little 1 centimeter squares of pulverized
and whipped chicken guts and maybe 8 pieces of mixed vegetables the
same size, the rest doughy crust and chicken buillion gravy. Lemme
guess.... not even an aluminum tray anymore?

-sw

Sqwertz

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On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 17:42:05 -0800 (PST), itsjoan...@webtv.net
wrote:

> On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 7:05:06 PM UTC-6, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 16:10:23 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Really, really good and pretty simple to make.
>>
>> sounds good, Joan. I'm happy you are pleased with the Foodi.
>> Janet US
>>
> I'm quite pleased with it as non only is it a pressure cooker, it will steam,
> bake, broil, and air fry.

I must not be watching the same late night TV infomercials as you.
Never heard of it. But needless to say, I'm always a little (a lot)
pessimistic of those Swiss Army knives.

-sw

Sqwertz

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On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 20:53:10 -0700, notbob wrote:

> On 2/22/2019 3:11 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> it should be treated just like a Teflon pan.
>
> What!? Thrown out?
>
> I jes tossed my only "non-stick" pan after watching a documentary on
> "Teflon". It was called "The Devil We Know" and it's about all the ppl
> that have suffered due to Teflon manufacturing.

I bet you could find youtube videos that would make you throw away
everything you own.

Do you ever even fact check any of that bullshit you watch on there?
Or are you really THAT gullible? Well, I guess so - you paid $4 to
watch that video.

-sw

Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl

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Feb 23, 2019, 2:37:39 AM2/23/19
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Ahh I see so me talking about religion and exposing the truths about
religion is worse than the christians that have murdered tortured and
raped millions of innocent people for no other reason than because
they had a different belief??

Bruce

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On Sat, 23 Feb 2019 01:37:31 -0600,
You can't talk people out of their religion just like that. Try
talking them out of eating meat first. As a practice run.

Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl

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On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 22:00:27 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
wrote:
well there is a third option... yes there are celiac's, and there are
the posers, and yet there are other people that are gluten sensitive
or have a gluten intolerance. Now this is an actual thing, there are
actual symptoms, which may be caused by something as simple as a wheat
allergy, but it is very difficult to figure out which it is because as
you know wheat contains gluten. It is this wheat that has been cross
contaminated into almost every food there is unless special measures
are taken to ensure that does not happen.

Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl

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On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 16:20:48 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 4:47:39 PM UTC-6, Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 14:04:58 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 6:24:32 AM UTC-6, Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:
>> >>
>> >> will it also dehydrate food?
>> >>
>> >Some of the models do, mine does.
>>
>> Not the ninja, from what I saw it only air frys between the temps of
>> 300 and 400 you can not dehydrate at those temps
>>
>>
>When the dehydrate function is selected the temperature of the pot drops as low
>as 150°. It all depends on what function you are using that what your temper-
>ature range will be.


ahh I see, well for now I will stick to my power air fryer that has
multiple shelves and a rotisserie

Cindy Hamilton

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On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 3:37:07 PM UTC-5, Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 06:08:29 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 8:10:32 AM UTC-5, Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:
> >> On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 04:38:24 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> >> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-5, Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 20:33:58 -0700, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 19:18:53 -0600,
> >> >> >Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 18:03:45 -0700, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>
> >> >> >>wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 18:54:07 -0600,
> >> >> >>>Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 16:10:23 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
> >> >> >>>><itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>Really, really good and pretty simple to make. It called for frozen green peas
> >> >> >>>>>or any other vegetable of your choice. I chose a cup of frozen cubed hash browns
> >> >> >>>>>as my addition. It also called for a teaspoon and a half of chopped fresh thyme,
> >> >> >>>>>but all I had was McCormick's dried thyme and I used a slightly rounded teaspoon.
> >> >> >>>>>Dried herbs are stronger than fresh and I believe I could have gotten away with
> >> >> >>>>>just 3/4 teaspoon.
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>It also called for 2 teaspoons of kosher salt but that is something I do not
> >> >> >>>>>stock. I used a slightly rounded teaspoon of regular salt it was the perfect
> >> >> >>>>>amount; not lacking salt nor too salty.
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>A store bought crust topped this pie because I am lazy.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>kosher salt is salt by another name, you would never tell the
> >> >> >>>>difference in a dish, it is basically a marketing scheme. Edible salt
> >> >> >>>>is sodium chloride. That means sea salt, table salt, kosher salt, ALL
> >> >> >>>>salt. The only salt that may have a slightly different flavor is
> >> >> >>>>iodized salt.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>Bummer I guess no one read my other post.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>Whether you can taste the difference or not . . .
> >> >> >>>Kosher salt is larger grained than ordinary table salt and weighs far
> >> >> >>>less for an equal volume of table salt. So substituting one for the
> >> >> >>>other means you need to make adjustment in amounts.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>so basically what you are saying is it is coarse sea salt?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>except kosher salt may contain additional chemicals. That is not
> >> >> >>something I would want in my salt. If the recipe calls for kosher salt
> >> >> >>just use coarse sea salt....
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Kosher salt is sodium chloride without iodine but may contain
> >> >> >>anticaking agents
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Sea salt is by far the most natural and best tasting salt because it
> >> >> >>contains no added chemicals
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Let me clarify. Kosher salt is a flake. I believe it has been
> >> >> >through an evaporative process. To my knowledge there are no
> >> >> >additives. I was pointing out that there is a difference when
> >> >> >substituting kosher vs. table salt and vice versa because of weight
> >> >> >and size which you should note since you say you are an experienced
> >> >> >cook to avoid making serious errors. However. Talking about
> >> >> >additives. Sea salt comes from the sea shore and whatever washed up
> >> >> >with it. It would be better to look up ingredients and know what is
> >> >> >in them rather than off the cuff speculation. You are speculating
> >> >> >that iodized salt is the only salt that might taste different.
> >> >>
> >> >> I am sorry but I just could not see myself using a "kosher" salt or
> >> >> any other product that has gone through a "kashering" just to fill the
> >> >> need for someone's desire to placate a greedy religion that has
> >> >> obviously created a way for it to make money for itself. I mean saying
> >> >> words or taking other measures to please a fairy to me is just utterly
> >> >> ridiculous.
> >> >
> >> >You really should educate yourself. The salt has not undergone "kashering".
> >> >Nobody makes money from kosher salt except the manufacturer.
> >>
> >> Kashering is what would have been done in the days of old and any food
> >>
> >> kosher - According to the laws of the Torah,
> >>
> >> those are the first words on the description, now if you were starving
> >> and happened to walk into a house and saw a bowl of porridge and it
> >> was a little to warm would you not eat it because you thought it may
> >> belong to papa bear or because it was a little to hot?
> >
> >Find out what the exact purpose of salting meat in the kashering
> >process is, and then we can have a meaningful discussion.
> >
> >> >Flake or kosher salt has a specific culinary purpose apart from kashering
> >> >meat. It is useful wherever one desires a salt that is sparingly soluble
> >> >at cool temperatures. It is easy to pinch from a bowl to get a relatively
> >> >consistent quantity compared to sprinkling from a shaker.
> >>
> >> I am sorry that just makes little sense. Are you saying that you can
> >> not place any type of salt in a bowl and take a pinch or better yet
> >> use measuring devices?
> >
> >Kosher salt is easier to take a pinch. Table salt tends to slip
> >between the fingers because its crystals are cubic.
> >
> >Measuring devices certainly have their place. But not, for example,
> >when salting a turkey prior to roasting.
> >
> >> >
> >> >You should examine your own religious devotion to sea salt.
> >>
> >> I have no religious devotion at all. I do not believe in fairies or
> >> the evil religious organizations that play on peoples fears in order
> >> to control them.
> >
> >"Sea salt is by far the most natural and best tasting salt because it
> >contains no added chemicals"
> >
> >"Most natural" is irrelevant. A salt lick in the woods is most
> >natural, but I wouldn't make it my first choice in the kitchen.
> >
> >"Best tasting because it contains no added chemicals" is debatable.
> >"Best tasting" is a opinion.
> >"No added chemicals" is a red herring. Un-iodized processed salt
> >has no added chemicals. Sea salt often has mineral salts from
> >wherever it happens to come from. But they confer no special
> >benefit. Magnesium chloride (for example) in sea salt is identical
> >to manufactured magnesium chloride.
> >
> >>
> >> > There's
> >> >no taste difference between sea salt and mined salt in blind tests.
> >>
> >> of course not I never said there was
> >
> >You said that sea salt is "best tasting". That implies there
> >is a taste difference.
>
> There is a taste difference in iodized salt and salt with anticaking
> agents and any other added chemicals... The point I am trying to make
> is just because a salt is jewish does not make it any better than any
> other kind of salt. They are the same except maybe other than the
> price.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton

It occurs to me that hating religion is still having a relationship with
it. You'd be better off if you got to where you didn't care at all
about it.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton

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On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 4:03:05 PM UTC-5, Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 11:22:39 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
> >On 2/22/2019 7:20 AM, Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I am sorry but I just could not see myself using a "kosher" salt or
> >> any other product that has gone through a "kashering" just to fill the
> >> need for someone's desire to placate a greedy religion that has
> >> obviously created a way for it to make money for itself. I mean saying
> >> words or taking other measures to please a fairy to me is just utterly
> >> ridiculous.
> >>
> >
> >> Sorry for the rant I just really hate religion.. hence the my chosen
> >> nym.
> >>
> >
> >What you are really doing is showing your ignorance of Kosher salt, what
> >it is and why it is used.
>
> I am saying Kashering (Making Kosher) salt because you can not kosher
> something with out it being kosher. for instance you can not kosher
> mean with a non kosher salt. Although you actually can, and it is done
> all the time.
>
> Let me ask you a question is coarse sea salt the same as kosher salt?

Typically, no. Coarse sea salt generally has cubic crystals while
kosher salt is manufactured to a flake shape.

> >Any salt can be kosher with no kashering process. Kosher sale it used
> >for the kashering process because of the way it can draw out the blood
> >in the process. That aside, yes, salt is salt, but there are
> >differences. Iodine aside, if you put salt in soup any salt will affect
> >the flavor the same way for a given volume by weight. Kosher salt,
> >finishing salts, have a different cut
>
> I would not go so far as to say different cut, rather table salt is
> just a finer grind is all. It is just stupid religious crap that means
> NOTHING at all because there are no fairies in the sky anyway

Does using kosher salt make me religious?

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton

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Nothing. I'm not a bird and I'm not stupid enough to heat my nonstick
pans that hot.

Cindy Hamilton

Gary

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Feb 23, 2019, 6:44:11 AM2/23/19
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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Does using kosher salt make me religious?

I don't know about you but it didn't work for me. ;)

Boron Elgar

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On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 22:30:40 -0700, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>
wrote:
I picked up some Marie Callender chicken pot pies. I was seeking a
childhood memory...alas, it was nightmarish.

Blech.

Boron Elgar

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Feb 23, 2019, 8:23:02 AM2/23/19
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My two birdcages are located in the kitchen. Each has a few tough old
birds that this tough old bird does not seem to have harmed over the
years.

Ed Pawlowski

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Feb 23, 2019, 8:42:13 AM2/23/19
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Its just that you are obsessed with it. The same as some of the nut
jobs that blow up churches or run trucks into crowds. Seeking attention
is what is important to you, more important than the result.

lucreti...@fl.it

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Feb 23, 2019, 8:56:35 AM2/23/19
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Well said Ed. Personally, as an atheist, sometimes other atheists are
as embarrassing as any Jimmy Bakker in their dedication to atheism.

jmcquown

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Feb 23, 2019, 8:56:52 AM2/23/19
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On 2/23/2019 8:42 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote in reply to a nutjob:
>> Ahh I see so me talking about religion and exposing the truths about
>> religion is worse than the christians that have murdered tortured and
>> raped millions of innocent people for no other reason than because
>> they had a different belief??
>>
>
> Its just that you are obsessed with it.  The same as some of the nut
> jobs that blow up churches or run trucks into crowds.  Seeking attention
> is what is important to you, more important than the result.


None of his/her contributions have a thing to do with Joan making
chicken pot pie using her Ninja Foodie. I k/f'd the troll the minute I
saw the nickname. I'm in no way religious but I have no desire to give
this person a platform from which to preach (yep, it's preaching).

Jill

Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl

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Feb 23, 2019, 9:09:05 AM2/23/19
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On Sat, 23 Feb 2019 03:29:19 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
yes I see what you mean, although I would not say I have a
relationship with it but a relationship against it. Religion has been
screwing people over for far too long. The idea of a magic sky fairy
has and is still causing much death and hate around this world and it
needs to stop.

Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl

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Feb 23, 2019, 9:12:27 AM2/23/19
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Ahhh but that is where you are so wrong, the only nutjobs that are
running trucks into crowds are other religious nutjobs. Atheists do
not do that.

> Seeking attention
>is what is important to you, more important than the result.

If you think so...

Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl

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Feb 23, 2019, 9:14:33 AM2/23/19
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well there is a difference between atheist and antitheist. atheist are
more passive and let the world go by. antitheist are still atheist but
take a more active role in advocating the evils of theism

jmcquown

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Feb 23, 2019, 9:14:38 AM2/23/19
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Yep! There have been many changes and improvements to non-stick cooking
materials since the original Teflon coating was found to be harmful when
heated to extremely high temps.

I think of the word "teflon" like the word "kleenex". I don't
necessarily buy that brand but when I write my shopping list I write
down kleenex. Same thing with Q-tips; to me, it means cotton swabs.

Many commonly used words started out as specific brands but wind up in
generic useage. "Google" is a fairly recent case in point. There are
any number of search engines and they all do the same thing, yet when
someone says "google it" I know exactly what they mean, regardless of
which search engine I use. :)

Jill

Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl

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On Sat, 23 Feb 2019 08:56:41 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
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Wow prejudiced much?

U.S. Janet B.

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Feb 23, 2019, 9:50:50 AM2/23/19
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and yet, MC pot chicken pot pie is better than Swanson . . . at least
it was when I last had one about 10 years ago.

U.S. Janet B.

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On Sat, 23 Feb 2019 03:29:19 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
snip
>
>It occurs to me that hating religion is still having a relationship with
>it. You'd be better off if you got to where you didn't care at all
>about it.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

long ago I had a friend who was adamant that all religion was fake.
She was into crystals ;-)

Mike_Duffy

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On Sat, 23 Feb 2019 01:43:26 -0600, Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl
wrote:

> [...] and there are the posers,

Would that be those who exaggerate their symptoms for piteous attention?

U.S. Janet B.

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On Sat, 23 Feb 2019 08:56:41 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

You're right. I was initially responding to Joan's post because I
am interested in what she's doing with her Foodi. I was drawn into
this when I noted that adjustment was necessary when using one salt
vs. another.
I'm assuming this poster is one of our wackadoodles off his/her meds
again.
Janet US

jmcquown

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Feb 23, 2019, 10:08:59 AM2/23/19
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I agree with you, Boron. My SO, who does not cook, thinks Marie
Callender's chicken pot pies are great. So I picked one up just to try
it, thinking maybe it would be good for when I want a quick meal. I
don't remember the cost but IIRC it was a bit more than $3. (They're
larger than the Swanson and Banquet pot pies of yesteryear and even
today). It was extremely bland.

Jill

U.S. Janet B.

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On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 22:36:10 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 9:53:16 PM UTC-6, notbob wrote:
>>
>> On 2/22/2019 3:11 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>
>> it should be treated just like a Teflon pan.
>>
>> What!? Thrown out?
>>
>Ummmmm, no. No metal utensils and I have no problem with that.
>>
>> I jes tossed my only "non-stick" pan after watching a documentary on
>> "Teflon". It was called "The Devil We Know" and it's about all the ppl
>> that have suffered due to Teflon manufacturing.
>>
>> If it kills birds, what's it doing to you? ;)
>>
>> nb
>>
>You do know you are talking the old, first generation of Teflon, correct?

And, I believe that the off gassing occurs beyond certain temperatures
only?

jmcquown

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On 2/23/2019 1:49 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 22:30:40 -0700, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 22:06:19 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't had a chicken pot pie for at least 20 years. So I bought
>>> one today for $.35, "Clearance" price. Yep, Swanson's brand. So I
>>> had buy it since will probably be my last chance to remember how bad
>>> they were. Could they have gotten better in the last 20 years?
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>> no, but they have gotten way worse!
>
> It was already down to 4 little 1 centimeter squares of pulverized
> and whipped chicken guts and maybe 8 pieces of mixed vegetables the
> same size, the rest doughy crust and chicken buillion gravy. Lemme
> guess.... not even an aluminum tray anymore?
>
> -sw
>
Metal? Of course not! They're microwaveable. It will be everything
you expect it to be, which means not very good. ;)

Jill

U.S. Janet B.

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On Sat, 23 Feb 2019 00:46:42 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
wrote:

>On Sat, 23 Feb 2019 00:04:22 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> On 2/22/2019 11:06 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> I haven't had a chicken pot pie for at least 20 years. So I bought
>>> one today for $.35, "Clearance" price. Yep, Swanson's brand. So I
>>> had buy it since will probably be my last chance to remember how bad
>>> they were. Could they have gotten better in the last 20 years?
>>
>> Doubt it got any better. Sometimes we had one or two in the freezer for
>> a quick lunch. Tolerable at best.
>
>I couldn't even justify heating up the oven for this dinky little
>thing. So it will have to qit until I bake a cake or something.
>
>-sw

These new pot pies can be heated in the M/W. Yum!

Cindy Hamilton

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It certainly is causing hate in you.

Cindy Hamilton

jmcquown

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That's what I recall. If you cranked the heat to high and let it sit
there on the stove it gave off toxic fumes. It's entirely possible
notbob had old original Teflon pans. <shrug>

Jill

Dave Smith

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Feb 23, 2019, 10:24:15 AM2/23/19
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That was a pretty good sign of what we could expect from him.


jmcquown

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Feb 23, 2019, 10:24:59 AM2/23/19
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The very same, Mike. Also those with anti-religious (or religious)
convictions, merely seeking a platform.

Jill

Dave Smith

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On 2019-02-23 9:50 a.m., U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Feb 2019 08:19:28 -0500, Boron Elgar

>> I picked up some Marie Callender chicken pot pies. I was seeking a
>> childhood memory...alas, it was nightmarish.
>>
>> Blech.
>
> and yet, MC pot chicken pot pie is better than Swanson . . . at least
> it was when I last had one about 10 years ago.
>

I have not bought any major brand meat pie in decades. We occasionally
buy church lady meat pies from my wife's church or we get them from a
local bakery. At $4-5 apiece they are likely more expensive that those
in the grocery store freezer section, but they are delicious.


Dave Smith

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Feb 23, 2019, 10:34:51 AM2/23/19
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I have never been religious. I was glad to see public prayers slip away.
I have to admit to disappointment about the influx if Islamic immigrants
and refugees and being expected to welcome their fervent beliefs. And
then there is the native prayers that have become the norm for public
functions. Hell, we get away from one system on superstitious mumbo
jumbo just to replace it with another.


jmcquown

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Feb 23, 2019, 10:38:41 AM2/23/19
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Yes, apparently this poster is also an authority on salt. LOL It's
clear the term "kosher" sets it off.

> I'm assuming this poster is one of our wackadoodles off his/her meds
> again.
> Janet US
>
Quite possibly. The poster is also on the vegan and gluten free
bandwagon. Lots of *boring* drums to beat.

Jill

lucreti...@fl.it

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On Sat, 23 Feb 2019 08:16:18 -0700, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>
I sometimes have one and yes it nukes well, you leave it in the carton
and the lid seems to have some sort of lining and that must be what
stops the pastry going completely soggy in the nuker. Stouffers I
think, comes in a small red box.

jmcquown

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Feb 23, 2019, 10:41:52 AM2/23/19
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Just the nickname was a pretty clear sign, Dave. I hadn't checked the
ng for a couple of days. When I came back and started reading there it
was... and gone in a couple of clicks. Can't wait to see if it morphs
if enough people stop engaging it.

Jill

lucreti...@fl.it

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Feb 23, 2019, 10:42:25 AM2/23/19
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You're at it again! Islamic immigrants in Halifax have their mosques
but I notice they are about as fervent as the average Christian is.

jmcquown

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Feb 23, 2019, 10:53:32 AM2/23/19
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Yes, the red box! Stouffer's. Did it taste good?

Of most any frozen brand, I like Stouffer's when it comes to frozen
entrees. I still buy their Spinach Souffle. Not only does it taste
good to me, it's a memory that started when I was a teen. Mom bought it
and served it with dinner. Back then, yes, it came in a metal pan and
was cooked in the oven. It's a fond memory and she and I both continued
to buy it over the years. I still do. These days it is in a tray which
can be microwaved OR baked in the oven, just remove the film on top.

I haven't tried Stouffer's pot pie. Maybe I should. I wasn't at all
impressed by the Marie Callender pot pie. It was very bland.

Jill
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