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bruce2...@gmail.com

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Jul 9, 2020, 5:12:30 PM7/9/20
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Has anyone seen or had this dessert before? or is it a type of candy or just a flavor like chocolate, vanilla, etc...

Sheldon Martin

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Jul 9, 2020, 5:29:17 PM7/9/20
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On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 bruce2...@gmail.com wrote:

>Has anyone seen or had this dessert before? or is it a type of candy or just a flavor like chocolate, vanilla, etc...

Only Brooklynites can know.

dsi1

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Jul 9, 2020, 5:44:17 PM7/9/20
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On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 11:12:30 AM UTC-10, bruce2...@gmail.com wrote:
> Has anyone seen or had this dessert before? or is it a type of candy or just a flavor like chocolate, vanilla, etc...

It is a sparkling chocolate soda made with 3 readily available ingredients. Milk, chocolate syrup, and sparkling water. It is curiously refreshing. Paradoxically, it contains no egg or cream. That's a good thing.

bruce2...@gmail.com

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Jul 9, 2020, 6:02:52 PM7/9/20
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Dairy cream isn't bad: "Some kinds of sour cream contain the bacteria and yeasts known as probiotics, which can help the digestion process" - Spruce Eats

dsi1

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Jul 9, 2020, 8:08:13 PM7/9/20
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On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 12:02:52 PM UTC-10, bruce2...@gmail.com wrote:
> Dairy cream isn't bad: "Some kinds of sour cream contain the bacteria and yeasts known as probiotics, which can help the digestion process" - Spruce Eats

Lactose ain't good for a lot of "ethnic" type people. Asians have a lot of drinks that are probiotics. The easiest thing to do is to have a Yakult. Do black folks have probiotic products for them? Beats me.

https://www.seriouseats.com/2009/08/what-is-yakult-like-probiotic-dairy-drink.html

Boron Elgar

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Jul 9, 2020, 8:21:34 PM7/9/20
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On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 14:44:12 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
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>On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 11:12:30 AM UTC-10, bruce2...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Has anyone seen or had this dessert before? or is it a type of candy or just a flavor like chocolate, vanilla, etc...
>
>It is a sparkling chocolate soda made with 3 readily available ingredients. Milk, chocolate syrup, and sparkling water. It is curiously refreshing. Paradoxically, it contains no egg or cream. That's a good thing.


Milk, Yoo-Hoo syrup and seltzer.

Boron Elgar

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Jul 9, 2020, 8:22:18 PM7/9/20
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On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 14:44:12 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
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>On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 11:12:30 AM UTC-10, bruce2...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Has anyone seen or had this dessert before? or is it a type of candy or just a flavor like chocolate, vanilla, etc...
>
>It is a sparkling chocolate soda made with 3 readily available ingredients. Milk, chocolate syrup, and sparkling water. It is curiously refreshing. Paradoxically, it contains no egg or cream. That's a good thing.


GAK- sorry- U-Bet syrup....oy.

Bruce

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Jul 9, 2020, 8:39:42 PM7/9/20
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On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 17:08:09 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
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If I wear wooden shoes, does that make me ethnic too?

Sqwertz

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Jul 9, 2020, 9:00:17 PM7/9/20
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He'll be back. His post lacked self-pontification.

-sw

dsi1

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Jul 9, 2020, 10:51:24 PM7/9/20
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Well, that's what people say. The Fox's U-Bet syrup seems kind of unimpressive to people that are used to Hershey's as it's kind of thin and less intense than Hershey's. My guess is that an egg creme is going to be just as tasty made with any old syrup. I still have a bottle of the Fox's from 4 or 5 years ago somewhere in the cabinet. I guess it's about time to dump it.

dsi1

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Jul 9, 2020, 10:53:08 PM7/9/20
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Indeed you are ethnic, but the wrong kind of ethnic - unless cream gives you the shits.

Bruce

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Jul 9, 2020, 10:55:11 PM7/9/20
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On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 19:53:04 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:

>On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 2:39:42 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 17:08:09 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 12:02:52 PM UTC-10, bruce2...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> Dairy cream isn't bad: "Some kinds of sour cream contain the bacteria and yeasts known as probiotics, which can help the digestion process" - Spruce Eats
>> >
>> >Lactose ain't good for a lot of "ethnic" type people. Asians have a lot of drinks that are probiotics. The easiest thing to do is to have a Yakult. Do black folks have probiotic products for them? Beats me.
>> >
>> >https://www.seriouseats.com/2009/08/what-is-yakult-like-probiotic-dairy-drink.html
>>
>> If I wear wooden shoes, does that make me ethnic too?
>
>Indeed you are ethnic, but the wrong kind of ethnic - unless cream gives you the shits.

It doesn't, but it's still good to know that I'm ethnic.

bruce2...@gmail.com

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Jul 10, 2020, 9:55:18 AM7/10/20
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On July 9, 2020 at 5:08PM -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:
>On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 12:02:52 PM UTC-10, bruce2...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Dairy cream isn't bad: "Some kinds of sour cream contain the bacteria and yeasts known as probiotics, which can help the digestion process" - Spruce Eats
>
>Lactose ain't good for a lot of "ethnic" type people. Asians have a lot of drinks that are probiotics. The easiest thing to do is to have a Yakult. Do black folks have probiotic products for them? Beats me.

Dairy can be consumed in very small amounts too, you know. The calcium is still necessary.

Cindy Hamilton

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Jul 10, 2020, 10:06:01 AM7/10/20
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There are plenty of ways to get calcium that don't involve dairy.

<https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/322585#non-dairy-sources-of-calcium>

Cindy Hamilton

Sheldon Martin

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Jul 10, 2020, 2:01:59 PM7/10/20
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On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 20:00:10 -0500, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
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The proper ingredients are important but so is the proper method just
as important... the method is difficult to explain, much better to
demonstrate. The end result is a chocolately soda with a thick white
creamy head that should have no traces of chocolate syrup. Not easy
to do at home even with syphon type seltza bottles... really requires
old fashioned soda fountain equipment, including the proper drinking
glass. The iconic eggcream is chocolate but vanilla and strawberry
eggcreams were also once popular. There's not much about NYC soda
fountais that I don't know about. and intimately... such as Sids Belly
Buster, a 48 ounce egg cream that if you could finish it in under a
minute you got another for free. Even better was a Mrs. Kushner's
Malted... I' d sit in her candy store booth reading comic books
with her malted imagining it was derived from her huge bosoms. She
always wore a bib apron so I could see her bouncing, I doubt there was
a bra made in her size.

Hank Rogers

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Jul 10, 2020, 2:35:37 PM7/10/20
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Popeye, after the soda, did yoose always hump Mrs. Kushner?


dsi1

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Jul 10, 2020, 6:06:53 PM7/10/20
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I cannot digest lactose so I do know. I can also build up an immunity by eating yogurt. My guess is that by eating yogurt and then drinking milk products on a daily basis, I can keep and sustain a colony of Lactobacillus bacteria in my gut but that would mean drinking more dairy - something I'm not interested in doing. OTOH, if I see some halo-halo around, I'm gonna jump on that. Of course, I'll pay dearly for it - but no can help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoLPVGgGCF0

Leo

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Jul 10, 2020, 11:42:07 PM7/10/20
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On 2020 Jul 9, , dsi1 wrote
(in article<521f09ed-bc22-4d08...@googlegroups.com>):

> Well, that's what people say. The Fox's U-Bet syrup seems kind of
> unimpressive to people that are used to Hershey's as it's kind of thin and
> less intense than Hershey's. My guess is that an egg creme is going to be
> just as tasty made with any old syrup. I still have a bottle of the Fox's
> from 4 or 5 years ago somewhere in the cabinet. I guess it's about time to
> dump it.

From posted descriptions above, I’m guessing carbonated chocolate milk.
That can’t be it.


dsi1

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Jul 11, 2020, 3:22:03 AM7/11/20
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Near as I can tell, it's a inside joke that old farts from NYC love to chuckle about. The good news is that very shortly, all those old farts will be dead and nobody's going to care or know what an egg cream is. It's a shame though, because it's a pretty tasty drink.

My secret drink is milk and Pepsi mixed together. It's smooth and refreshing. Don't mix up too much because you have to drink it in a couple of minutes or so because the drink curdles into something pretty nasty. I call it a "time bomb."

Leo

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Jul 11, 2020, 3:35:10 AM7/11/20
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On 2020 Jul 11, , dsi1 wrote
(in article<651ada03-2502-4ad7...@googlegroups.com>):

> My secret drink is milk and Pepsi mixed together. It's smooth and refreshing.
> Don't mix up too much because you have to drink it in a couple of minutes or
> so because the drink curdles into something pretty nasty. I call it a "time
> bomb."

Try the Pepsi with cream instead. Just a thought. Wait! You’re lactose
intolerant. Scratch that.


dsi1

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Jul 11, 2020, 5:41:22 AM7/11/20
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Theoretically, cream should have less lactose than milk. OTOH, I'm not so anxious to test that theory.

Mike Duffy

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Jul 11, 2020, 11:36:32 AM7/11/20
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On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 02:41:19 -0700, dsi1 wrote:

> Theoretically, cream should have less lactose than milk. OTOH, I'm not
> so anxious to test that theory.

Almond-based cream. Use Pepsi / Coke concentrate instead of diluted with
fizzy water. If not sweet enough, add molasses.

The oracle of untested recipes has spoken.

Gary

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Jul 11, 2020, 11:45:22 AM7/11/20
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dsi1 wrote:
> My secret drink is milk and Pepsi mixed together. It's smooth and refreshing. Don't mix up too much because you have to drink it in a couple of minutes or so because the drink curdles into something pretty nasty. I call it a "time bomb."

You actually make and drink such a thing? arrrr ;o

dsi1

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Jul 11, 2020, 4:40:14 PM7/11/20
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That sounds way intense.

dsi1

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Jul 11, 2020, 4:42:51 PM7/11/20
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It sounds nutty as shit - right up to the moment that you try it. Then it makes all the sense in the world.

Gary

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Jul 12, 2020, 8:01:16 AM7/12/20
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Well, I used to drink wine coolers using 1/2 dry white wine
with 1/2 diet coke. Also sounds bad but it was quite good.

bruce2...@gmail.com

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Jul 12, 2020, 10:17:19 AM7/12/20
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Half white wine and half diet coke? I think I'll try that right away. Hey, I've always liked Hawai'ians anyway. I was there back in the early 2000s. I remember during Christmas with two other people, I visited that large buffet in Waikiki - Tokai, I think it was called.

dsi1

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Jul 12, 2020, 1:41:51 PM7/12/20
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I'd try that except that I don't drink alcohol. These days, I can't even drink diet Pepsi because it messes up my stomach. Regular Pepsi is okay though.

dsi1

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Jul 12, 2020, 1:48:32 PM7/12/20
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On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 4:17:19 AM UTC-10, bruce2...@gmail.com wrote:
> Half white wine and half diet coke? I think I'll try that right away. Hey, I've always liked Hawai'ians anyway. I was there back in the early 2000s. I remember during Christmas with two other people, I visited that large buffet in Waikiki - Tokai, I think it was called.

I was meaning to try that place for years but never did. It sounded pretty good. I think it closed down several years ago. It was called "Todai" although I suppose that hardly matters now.

I like the 100 Sails Restaurant in the Waikiki Prince Hotel. OTOH, who knows if it will survive all this? My guess is that about a third of the restaurants on this rock will be gone for good.

https://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/100-sails-restaurant-and-bar-honolulu-2

Bruce

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Jul 12, 2020, 2:37:22 PM7/12/20
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You clearly suffer from an alcohol shortage.

Hank Rogers

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Jul 12, 2020, 3:03:42 PM7/12/20
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You can tell from behind him?


dsi1

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Jul 12, 2020, 5:02:23 PM7/12/20
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I enjoy foods that won't incapacitate me. For instance, I'm now having coffee with oat milk & chocolate honus for breakfast. It's not a bad breakfast, but it ain't good.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/uO2e7xTnQHGZFgckA4Y5aA.OuFMxHKjRXGiCQTAY3kLwM

Bruce

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Jul 12, 2020, 5:16:30 PM7/12/20
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On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 14:02:20 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
That doesn't sound and look bad to me. A bit like having candy for
breakfast maybe.

songbird

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Jul 12, 2020, 5:41:23 PM7/12/20
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dsi1 wrote:
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> I like the 100 Sails Restaurant in the Waikiki Prince Hotel. OTOH, who knows if it will survive all this? My guess is that about a third of the restaurants on this rock will be gone for good.
>
> https://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/100-sails-restaurant-and-bar-honolulu-2

more will reopen when there's money to be made again.
for the short term until vaccines get out more it's just
a time to take it easy and not lose what you have in
reserve.


songbird

dsi1

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Jul 12, 2020, 5:58:32 PM7/12/20
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In my little town, restaurants are important because we're so overworked. We're going to lose a lot of these important resources when this all blows over. The ones left will be true survivors.

Bruce

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Jul 12, 2020, 6:02:10 PM7/12/20
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So you're saying that the survivors are going to survive. I think
you're right.

bruce2...@gmail.com

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Jul 12, 2020, 6:46:37 PM7/12/20
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On Sunday, July 12, 2020 14:58:29 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
Speaking of survivor, I heard that that big store named 'Daiei' over in Honolulu was bought out by some other chain. It's been almost 20 years since I was there.

bruce2...@gmail.com

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On Sun, 7-12-20 14:02:20 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 wrote:
>On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 8:37:22 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 10:41:48 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 2:01:16 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> >> dsi1 wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 5:45:22 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> >> > > dsi1 wrote:
>> >> > > > My secret drink is milk and Pepsi mixed together. It's smooth and refreshing. Don't mix up too much because you have to drink it in a couple of minutes or so because the drink curdles into something pretty nasty. I call it a "time bomb."
>> >> > >
>> >> > > You actually make and drink such a thing? arrrr ;o
>> >> >
>> >> > It sounds nutty as shit - right up to the moment that you try it. Then it makes all the sense in the world.
>> >>
>> >> Well, I used to drink wine coolers using 1/2 dry white wine
>> >> with 1/2 diet coke. Also sounds bad but it was quite good.
>> >
>> >I'd try that except that I don't drink alcohol. These days, I can't even drink diet Pepsi because it messes up my stomach.
>>
>> You clearly suffer from an alcohol shortage.
>
>I enjoy foods that won't incapacitate me.

Then you'd love pasta with plain old tomato sauce. That will give you a world of energy a day or so later.

bruce2...@gmail.com

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Jul 12, 2020, 6:56:30 PM7/12/20
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On Sunday, July 12, 2020 10:41:48 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
No one can keep an invincible tummy forever, but whenever I have stomach problems, I always run to a bowl of wheaties with flaxseed, etc...

Anywho, I didn't care alot for the wine/diet coke combo. I still like those rum and cokes though!

Bruce

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Jul 12, 2020, 7:08:17 PM7/12/20
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On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 15:50:27 -0700 (PDT), bruce2...@gmail.com
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As in keeps you running to the toilet?

Hank Rogers

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Jul 12, 2020, 7:34:06 PM7/12/20
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Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 15:50:27 -0700 (PDT), bruce2...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 7-12-20 14:02:20 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 8:37:22 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 10:41:48 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>>>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 2:01:16 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>>>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 5:45:22 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>>>>>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> My secret drink is milk and Pepsi mixed together. It's smooth and refreshing. Don't mix up too much because you have to drink it in a couple of minutes or so because the drink curdles into something pretty nasty. I call it a "time bomb."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You actually make and drink such a thing? arrrr ;o
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It sounds nutty as shit - right up to the moment that you try it. Then it makes all the sense in the world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, I used to drink wine coolers using 1/2 dry white wine
>>>>>> with 1/2 diet coke. Also sounds bad but it was quite good.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd try that except that I don't drink alcohol. These days, I can't even drink diet Pepsi because it messes up my stomach.
>>>>
>>>> You clearly suffer from an alcohol shortage.
>>>
>>> I enjoy foods that won't incapacitate me.
>>
>> Then you'd love pasta with plain old tomato sauce. That will give you a world of energy a day or so later.
>
> As in keeps you running to the toilet?
>

Licking your chops Fruce?


dsi1

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Jul 12, 2020, 9:13:20 PM7/12/20
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We used to go to Daiei all the time when we lived in Honolulu. That place was a gas. Daiei was bought out by the Don Quijote store chain. The Don Quijote is sort of like the old Daiei except turbocharged. It's a mind-boggling store.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lCrbc7L6GM

songbird

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Jul 13, 2020, 6:38:52 AM7/13/20
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Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 15:50:27 -0700 (PDT), bruce2...@gmail.com
> wrote:
...
>>Then you'd love pasta with plain old tomato sauce. That will give you a world of energy a day or so later.
>
> As in keeps you running to the toilet?

if your digestive system is that screwed up what
can you eat that doesn't bother you?

tomatoes and pasta are a staple food here and have
been my whole life.

i like it best when the pasta is still firm and
it is just made fresh so there is still some tomato
juice. a few dabs of butter melted on top. nothing
else needed. simple and good food. :)

until we run out of home grown tomatoes. :(


songbird

Bruce

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Jul 13, 2020, 7:01:42 AM7/13/20
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 06:38:29 -0400, songbird <song...@anthive.com>
wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 15:50:27 -0700 (PDT), bruce2...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>...
>>>Then you'd love pasta with plain old tomato sauce. That will give you a world of energy a day or so later.
>>
>> As in keeps you running to the toilet?
>
> if your digestive system is that screwed up what
>can you eat that doesn't bother you?

I don't have a problem with pasta and tomato sauce. But bruce2 said it
gives you energy the next day and I wondered how that worked.

> tomatoes and pasta are a staple food here and have
>been my whole life.

They're regulars here too.

songbird

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Jul 13, 2020, 8:28:59 AM7/13/20
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Bruce wrote:
...
> I don't have a problem with pasta and tomato sauce. But bruce2 said it
> gives you energy the next day and I wondered how that worked.

something to do with carbs and liver storage of
energy, but i don't really get into this topic
enough to know right off the top of my head what
is involved.

for me energy storage is fat. :) and i have a
bit too much of it still but i'm about to go walk
behind a mower for a few hours so i should be able
to burn off a few ounces more.


songbird

Gary

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Jul 13, 2020, 10:04:57 AM7/13/20
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Bruce wrote:

> I don't have a problem with pasta and tomato sauce. But bruce2 said it
> gives you energy the next day and I wondered how that worked.

Simple sugars give you an immediate energy fix but burn
out very quickly. Complex carbs will give you energy
for the next morning. Like pasta and potatoes.

Many serious runners will eat some complex carbs the
night before a morning race. Just don't eat too much.

Gary

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Jul 13, 2020, 10:06:03 AM7/13/20
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songbird wrote:
> for me energy storage is fat. :) and i have a
> bit too much of it still but i'm about to go walk
> behind a mower for a few hours so i should be able
> to burn off a few ounces more.

First thing for energy each day is burning off
the carbohydrates that you've eaten.

Once you burn those, your body switches to converting
stored fat into carbs. That's harder to do so you
will feel sluggish.

Marathon runners often "hit the wall" at about
mile 20 with 6 more to go. That's when carbs are
depleted and the body switches to burning fat.
It makes it very hard to continue.

Bruce

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Jul 13, 2020, 3:42:59 PM7/13/20
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You could just as well eat bread or rice. Those are complex carbs too.
Basically, food gives us energy. But we already knew that.

bruce2...@gmail.com

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Jul 14, 2020, 1:25:55 PM7/14/20
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Bruce wrote:
...
> I don't have a problem with pasta and tomato sauce. But bruce2 said it
> gives you energy the next day and I wondered how that worked.

I was just repeating stuff that I'd heard elsewhere and thought was true, imo.

bruce2...@gmail.com

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Jul 14, 2020, 1:29:11 PM7/14/20
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songbird wrote:
> for me energy storage is fat. :) and i have a
> bit too much of it still but i'm about to go walk
> behind a mower for a few hours ...

Or just find a scenic place to jog.

songbird

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Jul 15, 2020, 5:54:48 PM7/15/20
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no, thanks. i have a bunch of gardens here to keep
up with that keep me busy enough on the days it isn't
raining or when i don't have to mow. i'd actually like
it much more if the bits of lawn that are left are gone
and turned into gardens instead. much more useful to
have flowers or veggies/fruits growing.


songbird

bruce2...@gmail.com

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Jul 17, 2020, 10:33:01 AM7/17/20
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Too many gardens are scary because of snakes, bee swarms, poison ivy, etc...
I remember I was hit with about 20 or 25 hornets or wasps. And that was because I was close enough to the house to run inside and shut the door quick enough to leave the rest of the swarm outside. I was hurting for a whole day or so.
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