Project for RFC Psychologists

[Ed Pawlowski]

I know many here are now working towards their degree as RFC
Pshchologists so here is an experiment by Dr. Emoto using brown rice.
See, nice food tie in.

I guess no one wants to be the third bowl but will accept second.

https://yayyayskitchen.com/2017/02/02/30-days-of-love-hate-and-indifference-rice-and-water-experiment-1/

[bruce bowser]

People here still work? I thought everyone here was living in retirement in some sunshine state.

[fos]

On 2021-09-23, bruce bowser <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> People here still work? I thought everyone here was living in retirement in some sunshine state.

right?! i've been starting to wonder if i'm the only person in rfc under
60 years old. and if there is anyone else under 60, do they work 60
hours a week like me? :P

--
f...@sdf.org
SDF Public Access UNIX System - https://sdf.org

[dsi1]

You might think we're dinosaurs but you're the one that's extinct on Usenet. Usenet used to be populated with folks like you until it was taken over by folks like me. God bless the eternal Septembers! You even have a ".org" domain extension address. What was once normal is now a curiosity. :)

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 1:01:08 PM UTC-4, fos wrote:
> On 2021-09-23, bruce bowser <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > People here still work? I thought everyone here was living in retirement in some sunshine state.
> right?! i've been starting to wonder if i'm the only person in rfc under
> 60 years old. and if there is anyone else under 60, do they work 60
> hours a week like me? :P

I'm over 60 and I work 40 hours a week. A 40-hour week has always been sufficient.

Cindy Hamilton

[bruce bowser]

On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 1:21:01 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 7:01:08 AM UTC-10, fos wrote:
> > On 2021-09-23, bruce bowser <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > People here still work? I thought everyone here was living in retirement in some sunshine state.
> > right?! i've been starting to wonder if i'm the only person in rfc under
> > 60 years old. and if there is anyone else under 60, do they work 60
> > hours a week like me? :P
> >
> > --
> > f...@sdf.org
> > SDF Public Access UNIX System - https://sdf.org
> You might think we're dinosaurs but you're the one that's extinct on Usenet. Usenet used to be populated with folks like you until it was taken over by folks like me.

I think what happened is you all *WERE* always here. No new younger people ever stayed.

[Bruce]

True this is some pretty dull stuff! And the resident pervert has run
off most that stop by to check it out. The youth are also busy as they
have a real life to live.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Nice try. Usenet used to be filled with college students because they had
access through their universities, and the general public couldn't readily access
it.

Cindy Hamilton

[GM]

Over the years, more peeps here have passed away as opposed to new arrivals posting bb...

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GM

[fos]

On 2021-09-23, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 7:01:08 AM UTC-10, fos wrote:
>> On 2021-09-23, bruce bowser <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > People here still work? I thought everyone here was living in retirement in some sunshine state.
>> right?! i've been starting to wonder if i'm the only person in rfc under
>> 60 years old. and if there is anyone else under 60, do they work 60
>> hours a week like me? :P

> You might think we're dinosaurs but you're the one that's extinct on Usenet. Usenet used to be populated with folks like you until it was taken over by folks like me. God bless the eternal Septembers! You even have a ".org" domain extension address. What was once normal is now a curiosity. :)

indeed it was taken over by people like you! i used to filter google groups
users into the bit bucket of nothingness as you (googly speaking) used
to be just one step above the aol users of eternal september fame. however,
now i see if i killed filed google groups users, there wouldn't be much left
to read. :)

but damnit google, some of us are still reading usenet from a command
shell on 80 x 25 character vt100 terminals, how about some line breaks
instead of three screen wide sentences?! ;)

[dsi1]

I've always been a content guy. The medium/protocol is not important - content is. That's just my opinion.

[Bruce 3.3]

On Thu, 23 Sep 2021 09:40:46 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
<bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:

>People here still work? I thought everyone here was living in retirement in some sunshine state.

I work in a sunshine state.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 3:00:37 PM UTC-4, fos wrote:
> On 2021-09-23, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 7:01:08 AM UTC-10, fos wrote:
> >> On 2021-09-23, bruce bowser <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > People here still work? I thought everyone here was living in retirement in some sunshine state.
> >> right?! i've been starting to wonder if i'm the only person in rfc under
> >> 60 years old. and if there is anyone else under 60, do they work 60
> >> hours a week like me? :P
> > You might think we're dinosaurs but you're the one that's extinct on Usenet. Usenet used to be populated with folks like you until it was taken over by folks like me. God bless the eternal Septembers! You even have a ".org" domain extension address. What was once normal is now a curiosity. :)
> indeed it was taken over by people like you! i used to filter google groups

Meh. Google groups has been in existence like a minute. Ok, it's been 20
years, but that seems like a minute.

Cindy Hamilton

[fos]

On 2021-09-23, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 9:00:37 AM UTC-10, fos wrote:

>> indeed it was taken over by people like you! i used to filter google groups
>> users into the bit bucket of nothingness as you (googly speaking) used
>> to be just one step above the aol users of eternal september fame. however,
>> now i see if i killed filed google groups users, there wouldn't be much left
>> to read. :)

> I've always been a content guy. The medium/protocol is not important - content is. That's just my opinion.

i just started reading usenet again after a decade lapse and now think
the same way. after google bought dejanews it didn't lake long for
nym shifting miscreants to fill up numerous groups i was reading with
mindless drivel. groups that were full of people from when usenet access
was a fringe benefit offered by most isp's dating back to the early 90's
who enjoyed talking about the subjects at hand. the easiest way to clean
up the nonsense was bit bucket googlegroups and whitelist on content. the
groups then looked a lot like, say, comp.os.linux.advocacy does now, full
of utterly useless nonsense and nearly nothing on the topic.

however, today, much of the traffic on usenet is posted from google
groups. there'd be nothing to read if it was kill filed.

[bruce bowser]

No way am I convinced of that, because when I first started USENET back in 1995 (under a different name), there were way more non edu names than there were.

Face it, Cindy. Most people like forums with mostly pictures (moving or not), colors and sounds. That's why the young people are traditionally not here.

[Hank Rogers]

My guess is that in the future, there will be fewer and fewer
living on shit-splattered rocks.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 4:02:29 PM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 1:45:58 PM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 1:37:31 PM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
> > > On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 1:21:01 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 7:01:08 AM UTC-10, fos wrote:
> > > > > On 2021-09-23, bruce bowser <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > People here still work? I thought everyone here was living in retirement in some sunshine state.
> > > > > right?! i've been starting to wonder if i'm the only person in rfc under
> > > > > 60 years old. and if there is anyone else under 60, do they work 60
> > > > > hours a week like me? :P
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > f...@sdf.org
> > > > > SDF Public Access UNIX System - https://sdf.org
> > > > You might think we're dinosaurs but you're the one that's extinct on Usenet. Usenet used to be populated with folks like you until it was taken over by folks like me.
> > > I think what happened is you all *WERE* always here. No new younger people ever stayed.
> > Nice try. Usenet used to be filled with college students because they had
> > access through their universities, and the general public couldn't readily access
> > it.
> No way am I convinced of that, because when I first started USENET back in 1995 (under a different name), there were way more non edu names than there were.

1995 is like yesterday in Usenet time (rather than a minute ago). Try 1980.

> Face it, Cindy. Most people like forums with mostly pictures (moving or not), colors and sounds. That's why the young people are traditionally not here.

You're not wrong.

Cindy Hamilton

[fos]

On 2021-09-23, Cindy Hamilton <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Meh. Google groups has been in existence like a minute. Ok, it's been 20
> years, but that seems like a minute.

usenet was created late in 1979. 42 years ago, but seems like 2 minutes.

are you the person who invented dirt?

:P

[dsi1]

The new Usenet is for gossip, harassment, and vendetta.

[GM]

Folks, you are witness here to history, as momentous in it's way as the fall of the Berlin Wall or VJ Day...or the MOON LANDING even...!!!

To wit:

Cindy and bb here actually "agree" to something...!!!

Can we next expect The End of World Poverty...an unlimited and safe form
of FREE ENERGY...strip clubs on Mars....Kuthe getting gainful full - time employment, or...???

We can DREAM, can't we...!!!???

;-D

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GM

[GM]

fos wrote:

> On 2021-09-23, Cindy Hamilton <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Meh. Google groups has been in existence like a minute. Ok, it's been 20
> > years, but that seems like a minute.
> usenet was created late in 1979. 42 years ago, but seems like 2 minutes.
>
> are you the person who invented dirt?
>
> :P

Don't be so flip...Cindy here designs very sophisticated hi - tech weapons...
weapons that "could* conceivably be targeted to a *single* human individual...

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GM

[Ophelia]

Aye to that, Laddie!

:-(

[fos]

On 2021-09-23, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 10:02:07 AM UTC-10, fos wrote:

>> i just started reading usenet again after a decade lapse and now think
>> the same way. after google bought dejanews it didn't lake long for
>> nym shifting miscreants to fill up numerous groups i was reading with
>> mindless drivel. groups that were full of people from when usenet access
>> was a fringe benefit offered by most isp's dating back to the early 90's
>> who enjoyed talking about the subjects at hand. the easiest way to clean
>> up the nonsense was bit bucket googlegroups and whitelist on content. the
>> groups then looked a lot like, say, comp.os.linux.advocacy does now, full
>> of utterly useless nonsense and nearly nothing on the topic.

>> however, today, much of the traffic on usenet is posted from google
>> groups. there'd be nothing to read if it was kill filed.

> The new Usenet is for gossip, harassment, and vendetta.

it's actually not any different than it was when i started reading usnet
in the mid 90's. the banter you speak of has always been a part of every
lively newsgroup i've read. it (usenet as a whole and individual
newsgroups) is a community of people with a common interest. in every
community there are going to be disagreements which eventually lead to
butthurt and revenge. it's merely part of the human condition.

[fos]

On 2021-09-23, GM <gregorymorr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> fos wrote:

>> On 2021-09-23, Cindy Hamilton <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>> Meh. Google groups has been in existence like a minute. Ok, it's been 20
>>> years, but that seems like a minute.
>> usenet was created late in 1979. 42 years ago, but seems like 2 minutes.

>> are you the person who invented dirt?

> Don't be so flip...Cindy here designs very sophisticated hi - tech weapons...
> weapons that "could* conceivably be targeted to a *single* human individual...

nobody's cooking can be THAT bad, can it?

[GM]

fos wrote:

> On 2021-09-23, GM <gregorymorr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > fos wrote:
>
> >> On 2021-09-23, Cindy Hamilton <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Meh. Google groups has been in existence like a minute. Ok, it's been 20
> >>> years, but that seems like a minute.
> >> usenet was created late in 1979. 42 years ago, but seems like 2 minutes.
>
> >> are you the person who invented dirt?
> > Don't be so flip...Cindy here designs very sophisticated hi - tech weapons...
> > weapons that "could* conceivably be targeted to a *single* human individual...
> nobody's cooking can be THAT bad, can it?

Only the "cooking" of our famous resident Hawaiian "dsi1"...his stuff looks
like yak flop purloined by a cheap Chinaman from a rice paddy, lol...!!!

;-P

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GM

[Michael Trew]

On 9/23/2021 1:01 PM, fos wrote:
> On 2021-09-23, bruce bowser<bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> People here still work? I thought everyone here was living in retirement in some sunshine state.
>
> right?! i've been starting to wonder if i'm the only person in rfc under
> 60 years old. and if there is anyone else under 60, do they work 60
> hours a week like me? :P
>

I think I have an award for the youngest on Usenet. I'm 26 years old.

[Michael Trew]

On 9/23/2021 11:58 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> I know many here are now working towards their degree as RFC
> Pshchologists so here is an experiment by Dr. Emoto using brown rice.
> See, nice food tie in.
>
> I guess no one wants to be the third bowl but will accept second.
>
> https://yayyayskitchen.com/2017/02/02/30-days-of-love-hate-and-indifference-rice-and-water-experiment-1/


It's very interesting indeed. An RFC poster has pointed out this
observation to me, at a group level (via e-mail). John is the rice in
this scenario. He responds much better to positive attention than
negative. However, he takes negative attention if that's all he can
get. He very well might end up like the third jar of rice if ignored.

[Michael Trew]

You started Usenet in the AOL era, when all ISP's allowed access.
Usenet was primarily well educated people, University students, etc
before 1993.

September was never a place to look forward to in the Usenet years of
yore. That's when all of the freshmen were given access, and the place
got rowdy. Afterward, the tide settled down, and those that stuck
around settled in.

When AOL and other ISP's started allowing access in 1993 to the general
public, that was when the "Eternal September" started. Usenet's slow
and steady decline started then.

Yes, this info was from the top of my head. Look it up for further
reading, research the "Eternal September". No, not the Usenet provider
the I and others use, but the phenomenon that it was named after.

I'm full of useless information that I memorize like a sponge, but don't
ask me to remind you of of something tomorrow -- I'll never remember. :)

[Michael Trew]

Thank you! I hate the lack of line breaks from the GG users. Ick.

[Bruce 3.3]

They introduced that failure after a fairly recent "upgrade" of Google
Groups.

[GM]

How are my line breaks, I have been
trying to pay attention to that recently...

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GM

[Ed Pawlowski]

I never see the long lines with Thunderbird.

[GM]

Cindy a whiles back said she hits enter after about 80 characters, so I am trying that too...

I post many long - ish articles, it would be punishing to have those extended to one long line, lol...

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GM

[dsi1]

That's what happens when you try to use a 90's software in 2021. Back in those days, I used a dial-up connection and magnetic media. Those were the bad old days. Every web browser can resize type and word wrap. Your software is incapable of doing even that. Pathetic.

[Bruce 3.3]

But which software puts empty lines back in that have been removed?

[Janet]

In article <sijgss$29r$1...@dont-email.me>, michae...@att.net says...

I've got shirts older than you.

Janet UK

[fos]

On 2021-09-24, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:

> Yes, this info was from the top of my head. Look it up for further
> reading, research the "Eternal September". No, not the Usenet provider
> the I and others use, but the phenomenon that it was named after.

a bit of trivia; the Meow Wars.

look up "usenet meow wars".

:)

[Dave Smith]

On 2021-09-24 9:44 a.m., heyjoe wrote:
> fos wrote :
>

> Just saw an interesting stat that may or may not be accurate - for
> overall usenet, 1/3 of the posts come from goggle.
>
> OTOH, for RFC, over half of the posts come from just two posters (and
> their forgers).
>

Sometimes it is like playing Whack A Mole. You kill it under one name
that the pathetic shit pops up the next day under a new one. I don't
know who gets more entertainment out of that, the poor pathetic
nymshifter or the people who immediately filter the new idiot.

[GM]

fos wrote:

> On 2021-09-24, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
>
> > Yes, this info was from the top of my head. Look it up for further
> > reading, research the "Eternal September". No, not the Usenet provider
> > the I and others use, but the phenomenon that it was named after.
> a bit of trivia; the Meow Wars.
>
> look up "usenet meow wars".

Ah, the Meowers...I used to encounter them a bit when I was using
WebTV to access the internet...now THAT is "old", lol...

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GM

[bruce bowser]

Maybe, the pathetic shit already knows what's coming and has all the next moves prepared.

[GM]

Ole' Dave Smit' is like Graham, he lacks a sense of humour...

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GM

[Dave Smith]

No doubt, but is is the personas the present that get them filtered, and
no matter how many times they change names their idiocy betrays them. It
is hard to imagine what sort of idiotic mental process inspires someone
to lurk in one or more news groups just to be annoying.

[fos]

i was on mostly work related web forums where i heard about usenet and
subscribed right in the middle of it. i thought it was great. i went from
sanitized moderated forums where even the mildest flame was frowned upon
and could get one banned, and landed smack dab in the middle of a huge
flame war on this new to me thing i discovered. i was like wtf is this
shit and where did it come from? it's BEAUTIFUL, and i want more! :D

[Bruce 3.3]

But if they only lurk, they're not annoying, right? You wouldn't even
know that they're there.

[Michael Trew]

On 9/24/2021 1:49 AM, GM wrote:
> On Friday, September 24, 2021 at 12:12:15 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 9/24/2021 1:04 AM, GM wrote:
>>> On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 10:40:07 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
>>>> On 9/23/2021 3:00 PM, fos wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-09-23, dsi1<dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 7:01:08 AM UTC-10, fos wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2021-09-23, bruce bowser<bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> People here still work? I thought everyone here was living in retirement in some sunshine state.
>>>>>>> right?! i've been starting to wonder if i'm the only person in rfc under
>>>>>>> 60 years old. and if there is anyone else under 60, do they work 60
>>>>>>> hours a week like me? :P
>>>>>

>>>>>> You might think we're dinosaurs but you're the one that's extinct on Usenet. Usenet used to be populated with folks like you until it was taken over by folks like me. God bless the eternal Septembers! You even have a "..org" domain extension address. What was once normal is now a curiosity. :)

>>>>>
>>>>> indeed it was taken over by people like you! i used to filter google groups
>>>>> users into the bit bucket of nothingness as you (googly speaking) used
>>>>> to be just one step above the aol users of eternal september fame. however,
>>>>> now i see if i killed filed google groups users, there wouldn't be much left
>>>>> to read. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> but damnit google, some of us are still reading usenet from a command
>>>>> shell on 80 x 25 character vt100 terminals, how about some line breaks
>>>>> instead of three screen wide sentences?! ;)
>>>>>
>>>> Thank you! I hate the lack of line breaks from the GG users. Ick.
>>>
>>>
>>> How are my line breaks, I have been
>>> trying to pay attention to that recently...
>>>
>> I never see the long lines with Thunderbird.
>

> Cindy a whiles back said she hits enter after about 80 characters, so I am trying that too...
>
> I post many long - ish articles, it would be punishing to have those extended to one long line, lol...

Yes, in the past, it has been quite punishing. I do have the line
breaks with Thunderbird, BUT when replying, it is very difficult, as it
goes in one massive line. I usually just reply to your posts like that
as a block, with minimal snipping, or just snipping entire paragraphs.

[Michael Trew]

I don't either, unless I'm replying, then GG show up in very long lines
with no breaks (making it hard to snip, etc). Does your version of
Thunderbird have line breaks for GG posters when replying in quoted text
also?

[Michael Trew]

My software does re-size and word wrap with line breaks. It does not do
that, however, with quoted GG messages when replying (such as your
current message that goes WAY off screen as I'm typing my reply); that's
the breaks. ;)

[Michael Trew]

It's best to kill-file based on e-mail address, not name.

[Michael Trew]

I've got plenty of shirts older than myself. I've probably got shirts
older than you as well, if you want to play that game. ;)

If not shirts, than certainly a couple of jackets/suits.

[Bruce]

Seems best to just not read the ones you don't want to read.

Even Dave Smith could probably do that if he really tried.

[dsi1]

Expect the problem to get worse, not better.

[Dave Smith]

Actually, there are a number of parameters to use for filtering the twits.

One might expect that the idiots who end up in the Bozobin should not
have a problem with being filtered. It turns out to be the complete
opposite with some of them, The really special ones seem to get really
upset about being ignored and go to great lengths to get around the filters.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Looks like any other, no long lines on reply. Maybe you need an update.

[Bruce]

Your idea that any of this matters is ridiculous.

[GM]

"Hmmmm..."

Ask Ed down there about that...he says no long lines...

PS: and dsi1 aka "Po' Boi" is just being an ASS on this
subject, ignore him, lol...

He posts to Usenet via an olde vacuum tube hearing aide...

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GM

[Bruce 3.3]

But you must see the missing empty lines between levels of posts and
within posts.

[Bruce 3.3]

Petty things matter to petty people.

[Hank Rogers]

It's like collecting trash for the next mission!

[Hank Rogers]

I'm tired of lurking. I'm going down to the local Sonic drive in
and dumping 4 bags of trash and garbage.

That'll show 'em. Those bastards charge sales tax, so I hate 'em.

[Hank Rogers]

Right. He would have never known you were sniffing his ass if you
had remained silent bruce.

[Michael Trew]

On 9/24/2021 3:38 PM, heyjoe wrote:
> Michael Trew wrote :
>
>> He responds much better to positive attention than
>> negative. However, he takes negative attention if that's all he can
>> get. He very well might end up like the third jar of rice if ignored.
>
> Whether you love John or hate John, at least you've got feelings about
> him. Absolutely the worst thing you can do is not care about him one
> way or another, i.e. not have any feelings or thoughts about him.
>
> I felt the same way about Howard Cosell, I don't care.


I didn't know who Howard Cosell was.. I just looked him up; he died 3
days before I was born... lol sorry ;)

[Michael Trew]

Hey, nothing wrong with vacuum tube electronics! I used a vacuum tube
TV until my daughter's mother moved in with me. Darn women.. she
"needed" a color TV set.. ;) (so, of course, I find an old free CRT TV
somwhere with a color tube..)

[Michael Trew]

I'm on version 3.1.20 from 2012.. only 9 years out of date.. lol

[GM]

Update it! Heck, I just discovered that I'd downloaded T - bird a few years
back, I may set up an account...

Years ago I used a proper newsreader, this was when even MSN
had Usenet...then Usenet disappeared from all the big ISP's...finally
it was to Dejanews...then Google...

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GM

[Hank Rogers]

Or just find the setting to specify line length. I use seamonkey
which contains an earlier version of thunderbird code.

It will work fine if he can find the setting to set the line
length. There's lots of settings, so you have to be patient.

[Michael Trew]

On 9/24/2021 7:28 PM, Bruce 3.3 wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Sep 2021 18:48:15 -0400, Ed Pawlowski<e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
>> On 9/24/2021 4:35 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>> On 9/24/2021 1:12 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 9/24/2021 1:04 AM, GM wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 10:40:07 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/23/2021 3:00 PM, fos wrote:
>>>>>>> indeed it was taken over by people like you! i used to filter google
>>>>>>> groups
>>>>>>> users into the bit bucket of nothingness as you (googly speaking) used
>>>>>>> to be just one step above the aol users of eternal september fame.
>>>>>>> however,
>>>>>>> now i see if i killed filed google groups users, there wouldn't be
>>>>>>> much left
>>>>>>> to read. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but damnit google, some of us are still reading usenet from a command
>>>>>>> shell on 80 x 25 character vt100 terminals, how about some line breaks
>>>>>>> instead of three screen wide sentences?! ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you! I hate the lack of line breaks from the GG users. Ick.
>>>>>
>>>>> How are my line breaks, I have been
>>>>> trying to pay attention to that recently...

Great; thanks!

>>>> I never see the long lines with Thunderbird.
>>>
>>> I don't either, unless I'm replying, then GG show up in very long lines
>>> with no breaks (making it hard to snip, etc). Does your version of
>>> Thunderbird have line breaks for GG posters when replying in quoted text
>>> also?
>>
>> Looks like any other, no long lines on reply. Maybe you need an update.
>
> But you must see the missing empty lines between levels of posts and
> within posts.

Yes, I do see those, but otherwise, GG responses are one HUGE line.
Here, I've photographed a screen shot for you or anyone else to see.

https://postimg.cc/2qSwXCpm

See how huge the bottom scroll bar is? The long GG posts that show up
as a paragraph in the newsreader go on and on several pages wide when
"replying", making it very difficult to snip and quote sections. This
one one of Greg's old posts before he started manually word-wrapping.

[Bruce 3.3]

On Sat, 25 Sep 2021 01:29:14 -0400, Michael Trew
<michae...@att.net> wrote:

>On 9/24/2021 7:28 PM, Bruce 3.3 wrote:

>> But you must see the missing empty lines between levels of posts and
>> within posts.
>
>Yes, I do see those, but otherwise, GG responses are one HUGE line.
>Here, I've photographed a screen shot for you or anyone else to see.
>
>https://postimg.cc/2qSwXCpm

Yes, I get that too, but I can make the lines fit within the screen.
They're still terribly long, though. A bigger problem is that when I
quote those lines in my reply, it becomes a big mess that I have to
fix manually. I skip GG posts more often, depending on the author.

>See how huge the bottom scroll bar is? The long GG posts that show up
>as a paragraph in the newsreader go on and on several pages wide when
>"replying", making it very difficult to snip and quote sections. This
>one one of Greg's old posts before he started manually word-wrapping.

Google Groups is a big fail. Only computer illiterates use it.

[GM]

Michael Trew wrote:

> Yes, I do see those, but otherwise, GG responses are one HUGE line.
> Here, I've photographed a screen shot for you or anyone else to see.
>
> https://postimg.cc/2qSwXCpm
>
> See how huge the bottom scroll bar is? The long GG posts that show up
> as a paragraph in the newsreader go on and on several pages wide when
> "replying", making it very difficult to snip and quote sections. This
> one one of Greg's old posts before he started manually word-wrapping.

Interesting, thanks! Are my posts more bearable now that I manually
word - wrap...I hope so...

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GM

[bruce bowser]

What's the worry ! ! ! Its too late to try to change things. Just go back to the old way.

[Michael Trew]

Well, keep in mind, I also have a 15" 1024X768 monitor; that plays a
part. I'm sure you have a far higher resolution screen. However,
wrapping the reply text would be nice.

[Michael Trew]

Yes, thanks! Sorry, I replied to your post in my last post higher up;
it was kind of hidden.

[Michael Trew]

I've heard reports that it's easy to e-mail people with the newer
version (at least for Dave and Ophelia). I really like the set up and
interface on my version. If it ain't broke -- don't fix it??

> Years ago I used a proper newsreader, this was when even MSN
> had Usenet...then Usenet disappeared from all the big ISP's...finally
> it was to Dejanews...then Google...

If you go that route; I use Eternal September for free Usenet.

[Michael Trew]

On 9/24/2021 11:37 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 9/24/2021 4:35 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>> On 9/24/2021 1:12 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 9/24/2021 1:04 AM, GM wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 10:40:07 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/23/2021 3:00 PM, fos wrote:
>>>>>>> but damnit google, some of us are still reading usenet from a
>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>> shell on 80 x 25 character vt100 terminals, how about some line
>>>>>>> breaks
>>>>>>> instead of three screen wide sentences?! ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you! I hate the lack of line breaks from the GG users. Ick.
>>>>>
>>>>> How are my line breaks, I have been
>>>>> trying to pay attention to that recently...
>>>>
>>>> I never see the long lines with Thunderbird.
>>>
>>> I don't either, unless I'm replying, then GG show up in very long

>>> lines with no breaks (making it hard to snip, etc). Does your

>>> version of Thunderbird have line breaks for GG posters when replying
>>> in quoted text also?
>>
>> Looks like any other, no long lines on reply. Maybe you need an update.
>
> Or just find the setting to specify line length. I use seamonkey which
> contains an earlier version of thunderbird code.
>
> It will work fine if he can find the setting to set the line length.
> There's lots of settings, so you have to be patient.

I actually do use SeaMonkey as my browser, but not for Usenet or e-mail
(it crashes some times). FYI, there are actually rather new newsgroups
for SeaMonkey, Firefox, and Thunderbird. I ought to post that question
into one of them. They are rather active.

alt.comp.software.firefox
alt.comp.software.seamonkey
alt.comp.software.thunderbird

[Bruce]

Your posts are always good. So much petty stuff about word wrap, line
breaks etc. If its too long, hard to read or you don't like the
subject just skip it.

[GM]

Thank you!

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GM

[dsi1]

Only a Neanderthal would believe that forcing a line break aka "carriage return" is a solution to anything. I learned over 30 years ago to never use the return/enter key to end a line (except to end a paragraph, of course) because that messes up the page formatting that computers use to make pretty lines of texts and paragraphs. People using archaic software are just going to have to suck it up. Either that or move into the 21st century, computer-wise. Catering to folks that choose to live in the past is not a good policy.

[GM]

We see that you in a choleric mood today, Po' Boi...yer hemorrhoids
"acting up" again...???

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GM

[Cindy Hamilton]

Sorry. I got into the habit when writing code, and I'm not about to stop now.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce 3.3]

On Sat, 25 Sep 2021 14:28:10 -0000 (UTC), heyjoe <th...@is.invalid>
wrote:

>Michael Trew wrote :

>
>> I didn't know who Howard Cosell was
>

>You are so cruel.
>Howard is turning over in his grave.

I don't know him either so now he's laying good again.

[dsi1]

He is famous American comedian.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shijJmRYnEg

[dsi1]

On Saturday, September 25, 2021 at 8:20:26 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> Sorry. I got into the habit when writing code, and I'm not about to stop now.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

You are free to do anything you wish, just as long as it doesn't involve me pressing "enter" like a trained monkey.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Thus confirming my suspicion that a monkey is trainable but you are not.
I'm surprised you're not still in diapers.

Cindy Hamilton

[dsi1]

I can always count on you to not comprehend what is being said.

[Bruce 3.3]

I recognise Woody Allen and Louise Lasser, who was quite crazy
according to Allen's autobiography.

[bruce bowser]

Do you have a loose screw? People from the 50's and 60's had no IDEA what crazy was, compared to today.

[jmcquown]

dsi1 still believes Google is the be-all, end all of everything modern.
GOOGLE is the format which is archaic when it comes to software.

Jill

[Michael Trew]

Haha!

[Michael Trew]

I wondered for a long time why Greg and some others pick on you so much.
You honestly ask for it sometimes with your rude side snips. As my
policy goes, I hold respect for people until they start calling childish
names on a regular basis. I have to be very lose with this definition
on RFC, because I wouldn't respect ANYONE if I took it too literally,
myself included.

My point being, no one is pressuring you into making line breaks, but
don't be offended and name call when it's pointed out that your less
versatile free Google web program is substandard quality to an actual
Usenet reader. My second point, is to try to be a little bit more
pleasant.

What did you have for dinner today? :)

[Michael Trew]

Thank you.

[Bruce 3.3]

There are a few rules when dealing with dsi1.
.
1. Asians are special and superior people.
2. Hawaiians are the specialest and superiorest of all!
3. Google Groups is the best thing since sliced bread.

[dsi1]

On Saturday, September 25, 2021 at 2:20:11 PM UTC-10, Michael Trew wrote:
> I wondered for a long time why Greg and some others pick on you so much.
> You honestly ask for it sometimes with your rude side snips. As my
> policy goes, I hold respect for people until they start calling childish
> names on a regular basis. I have to be very lose with this definition
> on RFC, because I wouldn't respect ANYONE if I took it too literally,
> myself included.
>
> My point being, no one is pressuring you into making line breaks, but
> don't be offended and name call when it's pointed out that your less
> versatile free Google web program is substandard quality to an actual
> Usenet reader. My second point, is to try to be a little bit more
> pleasant.
>
> What did you have for dinner today? :)

My snips are razor sharp aren't they? :)
I shall take it at your word that nobody is pressuring me into making line breaks - that's reassuring. I will no longer be offended with people make disparaging remarks about GG. That's a promise. Hopes this helps.
I'm using GG because it's faster and works on the computers that I use. I really don't have a choice in the matter since I use neither Windows nor iOS. OTOH, the ability to access these newsgroups at any time on any computer is totally awesome. I'm not tied down to a desktop.
It's too early for dinner. I had adobo fried rice for breakfast.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/KzCqymskSrSJfghi6

[dsi1]

On Saturday, September 25, 2021 at 2:48:12 PM UTC-10, Bruce 3.3 wrote:
> >
> There are a few rules when dealing with dsi1.
> .
> 1. Asians are special and superior people.
> 2. Hawaiians are the specialest and superiorest of all!
> 3. Google Groups is the best thing since sliced bread.

1) Asians are no better than anybody else.
2) Hawaiians are no better than anybody else.
3) Google Groups kind of sucks.

Mostly, you lack self-esteem. Yours is the worst case I've ever seen. What's the background on this?

[Bruce 3.3]

Your point 3) amazes me, since you always fiercely defend Google
Groups against criticism.

[dsi1]

I don't recall doing that. You'll have to be more specific, please.

I spent my afternoon cleaning and photographing my guitar. What could be more pleasant? Nutting.:)

https://photos.app.goo.gl/8ArrXAiYkYUC16AE7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/REis58zBHM41gUbT7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/k6ZPihKUiUH3xyZx9

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Saturday, September 25, 2021 at 9:56:19 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:

> I'm using GG because it's faster and works on the computers that I use. I really don't have a choice in the matter since I use neither Windows nor iOS.

I use neither Windows nor iOS. My first post-retirement project will be
to install and configure a newsreader that talks to a real Usenet server.

Cindy Hamilton

[jmcquown]

Yep, I completely understand why you use Google, Cindy. dsi1 is merely
making excuses. There are plenty of free newsreaders out there; there
is a version of Thunderbird for Linux.

Jill

[Michael Trew]

On 9/25/2021 9:56 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, September 25, 2021 at 2:20:11 PM UTC-10, Michael Trew wrote:
>> I wondered for a long time why Greg and some others pick on you so much.
>> You honestly ask for it sometimes with your rude side snips. As my
>> policy goes, I hold respect for people until they start calling childish
>> names on a regular basis. I have to be very lose with this definition
>> on RFC, because I wouldn't respect ANYONE if I took it too literally,
>> myself included.
>>
>> My point being, no one is pressuring you into making line breaks, but
>> don't be offended and name call when it's pointed out that your less
>> versatile free Google web program is substandard quality to an actual
>> Usenet reader. My second point, is to try to be a little bit more
>> pleasant.
>>
>> What did you have for dinner today? :)
>
> My snips are razor sharp aren't they? :)
> I shall take it at your word that nobody is pressuring me into making line breaks - that's reassuring. I will no longer be offended with people make disparaging remarks about GG. That's a promise. Hopes this helps.

> I'm using GG because it's faster and works on the computers that I use. I really don't have a choice in the matter since I use neither Windows nor iOS.. OTOH, the ability to access these newsgroups at any time on any computer is totally awesome. I'm not tied down to a desktop.

> It's too early for dinner. I had adobo fried rice for breakfast.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/KzCqymskSrSJfghi6

That was my concern for abandoning Windows 7, which is why I'm still
using it. If I were to change or upgrade, it won't be Windows. I'm not
sure how a newsreader would work with Linux, but that's probably the
route I'd go. I couldn't type on a tablet/touch screen. One of the
features of the newsreader that I like is that all of my e-mail accounts
are in the same place; same program, and I can e-mail you this message
or post it with a minor modification.

That looks good! It's breakfast time here, and I'm certainly getting
hungry now.

[Gary]

Michael Trew wrote:
> I'm on version 3.1.20 from 2012.. only 9 years out of date.. lol

WowMom. That's very old. The youngest poster here uses the oldest version.

I'm probably 2nd oldest version - v 45.0

I looked at Jill's and Ed's headers and
Jill uses v 78.14.0
Ed, with Win10 uses v 91.1.1

That's a LOT of upgrading for both of us.
Probably like you though, if it ain't broke, why fix it?

I tried upgrading a year or so ago when current version was about 60. It
wouldn't let me go from one to the other. Required a series of updates
then it quit working for me so I went back to v45.

Rather than update T-Bird on this old Win7 computer, I'll just get the
Win10 up and working then download the latest version on that.

[Gary]

GM wrote:
> Update it! Heck, I just discovered that I'd downloaded T - bird a few years
> back, I may set up an account...

If you downloaded it a few years ago, maybe better to delete that file
and download again (the newer version). Then use Eternal-September for
usenet and your email address for POP email. Much nicer than Google.

[GM]

Thanks, bro...!!!

I *really* need a killfile to rid myself of all the "bruce" trolling and forging...would
cut down on at least 60% of the "noise" here...

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GM