Copper

[John Kuthe]

https://i.postimg.cc/RhTyHS1Z/Copper.jpg

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian

[Hank Rogers]

John Kuthe wrote:
> https://i.postimg.cc/RhTyHS1Z/Copper.jpg
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> John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian
>

A plastic bucket too !!!!!!!!!!

Nice.

[Sqwertz]

On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 18:37:51 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:

> https://i.postimg.cc/RhTyHS1Z/Copper.jpg
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> John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian

They locked up all that other stuff but left some copper out?

Why just that little bit? Is that your $9K worth of copper gutters?

-sw

[Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl]

On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 18:37:51 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe

John can we expect other pictures that say things like
"dirt" and maybe "tree" and if we are lucky "air"

--

____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____

[John Kuthe]

Nope! They are making up the guttering offsite and deliver it when appropriate.

[jmcquown]

On 7/20/2020 9:40 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Sunday, July 19, 2020 at 8:42:34 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 18:37:51 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>>> https://i.postimg.cc/RhTyHS1Z/Copper.jpg
>>>
>>

>> They locked up all that other stuff but left some copper out?
>>
>> Why just that little bit? Is that your $9K worth of copper gutters?
>>
>> -sw
>
> Nope! They are making up the guttering offsite and deliver it when appropriate.
>

You missed Steve's point. I guess you don't realize copper is a very
expensive metal. Unscrupulous people have been known to break into
construction sites and steal it. Why did they leave that roll of copper
sitting out? If I were you I'd lock it in the basement. They've
already charged you for it; it's your copper.

Jill

[Taxed and Spent]

And if you found it missing - call a copper!

[jay]

On 7/19/20 7:37 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> https://i.postimg.cc/RhTyHS1Z/Copper.jpg
>
> John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian
>

Copper is beautiful. Are you really going to paint the copper gutters black?

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

G R O A N

[John Kuthe]

Old World Roofing is using that copper sheet for flashing around windows and stuff.

These guys know what they are doing!

John Kuthe...

[Bruce]

Unless your black!

[Hank Rogers]

Yep. I bet they are cannabis roofers!

[Sheldon Martin]

On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 10:03:57 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

That looks like a small roll of copper roofing flashing, at least $100
worth.
In unguarded buildings scavengers steal the copper plumbing. Plumbers
don't use copper tubing anymore, they use plastic tubing now. They no
longer use solder, plastic tubing is connected with compression
fittings, faster, cheaper, and not toxic.

[Sheldon Martin]

Paints don't adhere well to copper... as copper oxidizes paints flake
off... also different temperature coefficients... copper expands and
contracts more rapidly than paint as temperature changes.

[Bruce]

Please excuse my cluelessness, you see me mum had the syph.

[John Kuthe]

On Monday, July 20, 2020 at 9:04:02 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
...

> You missed Steve's point. I guess you don't realize copper is a very
> expensive metal. Unscrupulous people have been known to break into
> construction sites and steal it. Why did they leave that roll of copper
> sitting out? If I were you I'd lock it in the basement. They've
> already charged you for it; it's your copper.
>
> Jill

It's a very good neighborhood! People know me and they know I love all people, treat them all with care and respect.

[jmcquown]

On 7/20/2020 5:48 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Monday, July 20, 2020 at 9:04:02 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> ...
>> You missed Steve's point. I guess you don't realize copper is a very
>> expensive metal. Unscrupulous people have been known to break into
>> construction sites and steal it. Why did they leave that roll of copper
>> sitting out? If I were you I'd lock it in the basement. They've
>> already charged you for it; it's your copper.
>>
>> Jill
>
> It's a very good neighborhood! People know me and they know I love all people, treat them all with care and respect.
>

Uh huh. You still haven't answered the question. Why did they leave

that roll of copper sitting out?

Jill

[Pamela]

Copper is also the most protective metal against Covid. The virus dies on
it within hours compared to days for stainless steel.

[John Kuthe]

Good! My house is negative for Covid-19 so the copper is good!

John Kuthe...

[Bruce]

Are you allowed/able to have tenants during this crisis?

[Sheldon Martin]

That looks like very thin flashing, not much more than foil... ask for
heavier.

[Hank Rogers]

Yep. Popeye grade would be at least 1/4" hardened plate copper.

[Sqwertz]

On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 14:48:11 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:

> It's a very good neighborhood! People know me and they know I love
> all people, treat them all with care and respect.

You didn't treat your neighbors girlfriend with "care and respect".
At least not here in the group. And then you bitched about him using
a gas lawnmower.

Not to mention you've called all of as assholes hundreds of times.

-sw

[Hank Rogers]

His standard salutation for a while was "Fuck all of you. That is all."

Maybe that's just how he defines care and respect.

[Janet]

In article <rf4l3k$nhb$1...@dont-email.me>, j...@mail.com says...

His low pitch roof makes copper gutters and downpipes an easy target
for thieves.

Janet UK

[jay]

Exactly and why would one paint it? Like painting gold jewelry so no
one will know it's gold. There is plenty of factory coated black gutter
around for probably 1/10 the cost of copper. The patina of copper is
beautiful though.

Some people like to paint and nip and tuck everything. I have a slat
rusty steel fence and it looks great rusty. Will take years for it to
rust through.

Similar to this one but rather than hardwood mine is 3/16 " steel strap
on 4x4 steel post and it's all rusting nicely.

https://www.houzz.com/discussions/2645290/need-hardwood-for-a-horizontal-slat-fence-best-price

[Sqwertz]

On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 10:01:17 -0600, jay wrote:

> Exactly and why would one paint it? Like painting gold jewelry so no
> one will know it's gold. There is plenty of factory coated black gutter
> around for probably 1/10 the cost of copper. The patina of copper is
> beautiful though.
>
> Some people like to paint and nip and tuck everything. I have a slat
> rusty steel fence and it looks great rusty. Will take years for it to
> rust through.
>
> Similar to this one but rather than hardwood mine is 3/16 " steel strap
> on 4x4 steel post and it's all rusting nicely.
>
> https://www.houzz.com/discussions/2645290/need-hardwood-for-a-horizontal-slat-fence-best-price

That looks like one of those new Gentrified Fences/properties in
Austin that displaced some poor colored or latino family in East
Austin or South 5th street.

-sw

[jmcquown]

Yeah, you would fall for that stupid line. Pamela must be a shill for
"Tommy Copper" face masks and scarves. Only $39.99!

Jill

[Pamela]

Except that I'm right about the effect of copper on Covid.

[Ed Pawlowski]

I took off my tin foil hat and instead, wrapped copper tubing around my
head. Looks like I have a halo and people give me a lot more respect
now too. I walk into a crowd and they all move away, very respectfully.

[Mike Duffy]

On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 17:15:58 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> I took off my tin foil hat and instead, wrapped copper tubing around my
> head. Looks like I have a halo and people give me a lot more respect
> now too. I walk into a crowd and they all move away, very respectfully.

You just gave me a chilling idea. I'm sure that the technology to build
miniaturized cooling systems is advanced enough to make a fairly light
cooling helmet with face bubble just for dehumidifying breathing air
*and* keeping a cool head.

Piezoelectric transducers in your special boots would provide power.

Heck, add in some blinking lights and I guaranteed, even if the
contraption didn't make you feel cool, it would surely make you cool-
looking.

I'm thinking of making it in steampunk style, although I'm not sure if
that means I can blow off a bit of steam once in a while.

[Ed Pawlowski]

You make it, I'll wear it and since I inspired you, just a small royalty
on future sales.

[John Kuthe]

Some paints adhere very well to copper, like the black paint they originally painted on the original copper guttering on this house, which Old World Roofing is reproducing for my house. I got an email from the guy in their shop asking me if I had any storage location requirements for the new guttering when it's delivered. I told him just to put it wherever it would be most out of the way.

In other words, we will figure it out when it gets delivered.

John Kuthe...

[John Kuthe]

Most people in North America use gas powered lawn mowers. I find it very fascinating that we have no community rules about When and on What Days we are allowed to use those loud stinky internal combustion engine powered LOUD machines! Except as a STL countyite most of my life I learned 9AM is what I call Loud-O-Clock!

John Kuthe...

[Ed Pawlowski]

I'm not a religious person but I never cut the grass on a Sunday,
especially at dinner time when people would often eat out on the patio
or deck. Just nice to have one day a week free of noise.

My neighbor was very courteous. If he saw we had company, no matter
what day, he[d not mow the lawn. I appreciated that.

[Alex]

In other words, if it disappears, it's all on you.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Really? We have noise ordinances and ozone action days. The latter are
voluntary.

Cindy Hamilton

[Pamela]

Does your head come into much contact with Covid? Biocidal metals like
copper are recommended for work surfaces and handles.

[Mike Duffy]

On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 20:47:10 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> You make it, I'll wear it and since I inspired you,
> just a small royalty on future sales.

The only thing that bothers me is the routing of the steam conduits from
each leg. It seems from an engineering point of view that joining them
together would be perilously close to where our legs come together.

Probably this would not be a good place for the steam over-pressure
release stop-cock. (And sorry about that ominous engineering term at the
end of the previous sentence.

(You did volunteer to be the first model for the prototype.)

[Janet]

In article <ebf89705-8a8e-435c...@googlegroups.com>,
johnk...@gmail.com says...>

got an email from the guy in their shop asking me if I had any storage
location requirements for the new guttering when it's delivered. I told
him just to put it wherever it would be most out of the way.

Your insurance company is going to love that.

> In other words, we will figure it out when it gets delivered.

In other words he's informed you, you are responsible for keeping the
copper safe and secure once its on your premises. He knows copper
theft is common where you live.

Scrap thieves keep an eye on local building sites and you have tipped
them off by your loose-mouth boasting. Now they know a consignment of
very valuable copper is about to be delivered to your well-publicised
address.

They are no doubt watching your place and as soon as its delivered and
left lying about "out of the way" they'll come back in the night to
collect it.


Janet UK

[Sheldon Martin]

On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>On 7/25/2020 John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Monday, July 20, 2020 Sqwertz wrote:

>>> On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 John Kuthe wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's a very good neighborhood! People know me and they know I love
>>>> all people, treat them all with care and respect.
>>>
>>> You didn't treat your neighbors girlfriend with "care and respect".
>>> At least not here in the group. And then you bitched about him using
>>> a gas lawnmower.
>>>
>>> Not to mention you've called all of as assholes hundreds of times.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>> Most people in North America use gas powered lawn mowers. I find it very fascinating that we
>> have no community rules about When and on What Days we are allowed to use those loud stinky
>> internal combustion engine powered LOUD machines! Except as a STL countyite most of my life
>> I learned 9AM is what I call Loud-O-Clock!
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>>
>I'm not a religious person but I never cut the grass on a Sunday,
>especially at dinner time when people would often eat out on the patio
>or deck. Just nice to have one day a week free of noise.
>
>My neighbor was very courteous. If he saw we had company, no matter
>what day, he'd not mow the lawn. I appreciated that.

Most here mow with diesel tractors, they emit very little noise and
it's low pitched, lower decibels than many family cars and pick ups.
The loudest early morning noise makers here are roosters, woodpeckers,
and other critters... geese and crows are noisey too but short term.
At night the frogs serenade. There's no inceccsant dog barking here,
no one leaves their dog out, they know it'd soon become some
preditor's meal.

[John Kuthe]

On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 10:34:19 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
...

>
> Most here mow with diesel tractors, they emit very little noise and
> it's low pitched, lower decibels than many family cars and pick ups.
> The loudest early morning noise makers here are roosters, woodpeckers,
> and other critters... geese and crows are noisey too but short term.
> At night the frogs serenade. There's no inceccsant dog barking here,
> no one leaves their dog out, they know it'd soon become some
> preditor's meal.

Diesel fuel is still burn fossil fuels! A large part of what allowed us Homo Sapiens to cause the 6th Great Extinction event here on our happy little planet! The 6 mile wide meteor 65 million years ago wiped out the dinosaurs, allowing mammals to take over the planet and look what we mammals sprung 65 million years later! The 6th Planetary Extinction Event! Dinosaurs were the 5th and that was a very bad day on Earth! Wer took only about 300 years! ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07qyvX8WBco

[jmcquown]

On 7/25/2020 9:25 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Monday, July 20, 2020 at 4:21:48 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:43:14 -0600, jay <j...@mail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/19/20 7:37 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/RhTyHS1Z/Copper.jpg
>>>>
>>>> John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian
>>>>
>>>
>>> Copper is beautiful. Are you really going to paint the copper gutters black?
>>
>> Paints don't adhere well to copper... as copper oxidizes paints flake
>> off... also different temperature coefficients... copper expands and
>> contracts more rapidly than paint as temperature changes.
>

> In other words, we will figure it out when it gets delivered.
>
> John Kuthe...
>

In other words, you didn't bother to ask. Why the hell is copper so
imporant if you're going to cover it up with black paint? You're
getting ripped off and don't even care.

Jill