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Wierd punishments when you were a kid that wouldn't fly these days?

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Sqwertz

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Mar 14, 2023, 9:41:20 PM3/14/23
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 17:35:04 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:

> I get to my JOB at 9PM, my Client's normally resting comfortably
> in bed, sometimes awake and may take a sleeping pill at
> 11:30PM, but then is time for sleep!

You couldn't pay me sit anywhere and do nothing - or even sleep at
an invalids bedside for 8-12 hours.

Once I had 2 days "in-school suspension" where you have to sit in
the plexi-glass cage in the school office in front of everybody
passing through the halls all day long. You're not allowed to do
anything (such as reading books or studying) or talk to anybody
who wasn't staff the whole day. It all seemed very
counter-productive as a punishment at a SCHOOL: "Go to school but
you're not allowed to learn ANYTHING for 2 days!".

"In School Suspension" was to be the lesser punishment as opposed
to "Out of School Suspension" <gasp> - The Grandaddy Of All
Punishments - which I already did 2 weeks worth earlier in the
year. That's where you sit at home all day and smoke pot and
watch The Price is Right, Joker's Wild, I Love Lucy re-runs, and
Wheel of Fortune (where you went "shopping" after every round).
Then mid day news <yawn> and then the dreaded 2 hours worth of
nothing but soap operas before Donahue and/or Mike Douglass came
on. It was boring at times, but it sure beats sitting in a cage
all day like a zoo animal pondering our educational system's
agenda.

Anyway, on the first day of in-school suspension, after 15 minutes
of sitting there and the hallways went dead for first period, I
looked at the clock, rolled my eyes, and asked to go to the
bathroom... and kept walking for 3.5 hours until I got home. The
phone was ringing... "Hello?"......."Yep - went straight
home........Ohhh, bummer. OK........ I will <click>".

They were calling to tell me that now I had "Out of school
suspension" for the rest of today and tomorrow - "so don't bother
coming back until Wednesday".... and to "let your mother know
this".

Sheeeeit, she didn't even know I had in-school suspension. She
leaves for work before I get on the school bus and gets back 2
hours after I come home. Yeah, I'll be SURE to let her know ...
nothing.

I'm pretty sure I was smarter than all of the principle's staff
even at only 14 years old.

What ass-backwards punishments were you subjected to by schools
and other "authorities" back in the day?

-sw

Thomas Joseph

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Mar 14, 2023, 10:24:34 PM3/14/23
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Sqwertz wrote:

> What ass-backwards punishments were you subjected to by schools
> and other "authorities" back in the day?


I was in an orphanage where kids who wet the bed were forced to
wear diapers that were put on by women in the morning as everyone
including non bed wetters were forced to watch. Not often, saw it
only twice in the 5 years I was there they would send a kid to school
in a dress. I did not like that. I remember everyone laughing. But I
was not laughing at all. I am not saying that makes me a more
sensitive and caring person than those who laughed, it was more
a matter of being embarrassed by it as the school was shared by
non-orphanage kids from town, some of them girls.

Later at night sometimes we would be assembled to find an
offender standing on a box as we were told to sing, "The King
of France did it in his pants", before he was taken to another
room, the bathroom, where his private parts were scrubbed down
hard and heavy to make him cry with a toilet brush.

I would need an entire book to list the various punishments I've
seen and endured. In some odd way I'm glad about it. I was in
a reform school for a little over a year. The punishments there
were more severe but no more perverted than the ones at the
orphanage. At the orphanage they used a clothes lines tripled
up. At the reform school they used a baseball bat with its
fattest part shaved down flat. Just one of those was enough
to send me around the room howling before coming back for
number two or however many I was assigned. Friday night
was "Bendo Night" where everyone sat in a room outside the
"Bendo Room" where the "Bendo Bat" was used, waiting to be
called alphabetically.

One time at the orphanage - I was quite young - I remember
getting the strap for something, can't remember what - after
it was over I was walking up the steps and bumping into a
kid on his way down for his. "Did it hurt?" he asked. I told
him, "Nah, it was nothing", having already wiped away my
tears before passing him on the steps. After I got upstairs
I heard my name called from downstairs. I went down. They
said, "So it didn't hurt, eh? You didn't cry. Well, maybe this time
you will", as they administered the same punishment a second
time.

The stories are almost limitless. I try to find the humor in them.
And believe me there is humor in everything. I mean everything.

Thomas

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Mar 15, 2023, 4:18:16 AM3/15/23
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I skipped school at home. Mom forgot something for work and came home. I hid.
She thought there was a burglar and called the cops. They handcuffed me and took me to school.
I was handcuffed the entire day, all classes.

Bruce

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Mar 15, 2023, 4:26:26 AM3/15/23
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On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 01:18:09 -0700 (PDT), Thomas <cano...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>I skipped school at home. Mom forgot something for work and came home. I hid.
>She thought there was a burglar and called the cops. They handcuffed me and took me to school.
>I was handcuffed the entire day, all classes.
>
These days you could have sued them. Something about trauma.

Cindy Hamilton

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Mar 15, 2023, 4:51:39 AM3/15/23
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On 2023-03-15, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.compost> wrote:
>
> What ass-backwards punishments were you subjected to by schools
> and other "authorities" back in the day?

None. I enjoyed school and comported myself as an adult. Amazingly,
I was treated as an adult because I acted like one. It worked out
well for everyone.

--
Cindy Hamilton

Bruce

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Mar 15, 2023, 5:37:02 AM3/15/23
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They call that "old before your time".

songbird

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Mar 15, 2023, 11:02:33 AM3/15/23
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Sqwertz wrote:
...
> What ass-backwards punishments were you subjected to by schools
> and other "authorities" back in the day?

just being there was bad enough.

i often had a flask of whiskey in my coat pocket. i smoked
weed before or during lunch. i didn't get into fights or
cause other problems.

i only got busted once for passing a few joints to a friend
when a teacher walked around the corner and saw it happen. he
held out his hand and we gave him the joints. he never
reported it to anyone else that we knew of, but the principle
of the school knew who was doing what. i never got into the
hard stuff on purpose (a few times someone spiked my beer with
acid) - fun times... not really, but it was all a way to get
through it until i could go off to college. never looked back
from then on. a few people from high school i would not mind
talking to now, but that all was now a long time ago. after
about a half hour i'm not sure we'd have much more to say.

stuff at home was more interesting. if we got Mom mad enough
she'd whack us with a wooden spoon. we all survived and get
along fine now, but the few roughest years were when Mom and my
sister got into it. now they're good.

the biggest lesson i have to say from all this is that if you
don't say or do things that permanently burn bridges people can
learn and move on and be ok again.

simple stuff really...


songbird

Sqwertz

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Mar 15, 2023, 12:21:24 PM3/15/23
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Uh-huh. We got a Little Ms. Tuffet here. Like Marty's mother,
Lorraine McFly.

-sw

Sqwertz

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Mar 15, 2023, 12:40:03 PM3/15/23
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On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 09:47:02 -0400, songbird wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
> ...
>> What ass-backwards punishments were you subjected to by schools
>> and other "authorities" back in the day?
>
> just being there was bad enough.
>
> i often had a flask of whiskey in my coat pocket. i smoked
> weed before or during lunch. i didn't get into fights or
> cause other problems.

I think taking hooch to grade school is pretty hardcore. We had a
lot of pot smokers back in the early 80's and that was common
behind the school in the "Smoking Section" (it stretched the whole
length of back of the school - at least 200 yards(*)

But I don't recall anybody ever having booze or drinking anything
at school. Pot, a cid, black beauties, yellow jackets, mushrooms,
etc... but no booze.

> i only got busted once for passing a few joints to a friend
> when a teacher walked around the corner and saw it happen. he
> held out his hand and we gave him the joints.

And here I had *you* figured for Little Ms. Tuffit. Right on!
Groovy! :-) But I still don't think that's Cindy. Naaah.

-sw

(*) Make that 275 yards. It looks like they swapped the Junior
and Senior High School buildings.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/North+Hills+Middle+School/@40.5246969,-80.026406,579m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x8834f4b5cf3efff1:0xe720012171b6e2da!8m2!3d40.5244044!4d-80.0256942!16s%2Fm%2F0261s8q

Sqwertz

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Mar 15, 2023, 1:01:52 PM3/15/23
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 20:41:15 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> What ass-backwards punishments were you subjected to by schools
> and other "authorities" back in the day?

Other punishments I recall were the wooden rulers smacked on the
knuckles in 2nd grade.

8th grade gym teacher with the 36" paddle with holes in the
business end. Almost got that one time with another kid. The
other kid was at bat first - and said, "You touch me with that
paddle and my dad will be here by lunchtime to blow your head off
with a shotgun". Yikes! You didn't talk to adults that way back
then in my area. But knowing this kid, he could very well have a
father who WOULD do that. So the gym teacher backed down and let
us go. What a pussy! Heh.

And in 7th grade, a math teacher: If you were called on to give an
answer to something and you got the answer wrong, she'd bring a
glass of water over to your desk, dip her fingers in it, and
splash water in your face. And the other kids were supposed to
mock and laugh at you and if you didn't - then you'd get splashed
too.

WTF!?! Some pretty demented shit, IMO. I think teachers back then
should have had their own behavioral counselors, not the students.

-sw

Dave Smith

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Mar 15, 2023, 1:08:02 PM3/15/23
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On 2023-03-15 12:39 p.m., Sqwertz wrote:

> I think taking hooch to grade school is pretty hardcore. We had a
> lot of pot smokers back in the early 80's and that was common
> behind the school in the "Smoking Section" (it stretched the whole
> length of back of the school - at least 200 yards(*)
>
> But I don't recall anybody ever having booze or drinking anything
> at school. Pot, a cid, black beauties, yellow jackets, mushrooms,
> etc... but no booze.
>

We had a smoking area at my highschool in the late 60s. There was about
as much pot smoked there as tobacco.

Cindy Hamilton

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Mar 15, 2023, 1:30:04 PM3/15/23
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On 2023-03-15, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.compost> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 08:51:33 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> On 2023-03-15, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.compost> wrote:
>>>
>>> What ass-backwards punishments were you subjected to by schools
>>> and other "authorities" back in the day?
>>
>> None. I enjoyed school and comported myself as an adult. Amazingly,
>> I was treated as an adult because I acted like one. It worked out
>> well for everyone.
>
> Uh-huh. We got a Little Ms. Tuffet here. Like Marty's mother,
> Lorraine McFly.

Notice that I didn't say a damned thing about how I acted outside
of school.

--
Cindy Hamilton

f...@sdf.org

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Mar 15, 2023, 1:32:06 PM3/15/23
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pretty much the same here. once i got caught having a quick cigarette
behind the buses at the end of the day in middle school. teacher told
me to go to the office and they'd call my parents to come get me after
the buses left. they were both at work and calling either out of work
to get me would have not ended well for them so i did the school a big
favor. i walked in the front door, past the office, out the back door
by the gym, and through the woods to get home. nothing else ever became
of it like it never happened.

--
SDF Public Access UNIX System - https://sdf.org

That which does not kill you makes you stranger.
-- Trevor Goodchild - AEon Flux

Dave Smith

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Mar 15, 2023, 1:34:47 PM3/15/23
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We have had an ongoing issue with the treatment of indigenous children
in residential schools. They make it sound like a racial thing,
suggesting they were mistreated and abused because they were Indians.
It's interesting to hear from friends who went to Catholic schools and
they faced the same sorts of corporal punishment, usually quite severe
and for little or no reason.


jmcquown

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Mar 15, 2023, 5:56:14 PM3/15/23
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On 3/15/2023 1:29 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-03-15, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.compost> wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 08:51:33 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> On 2023-03-15, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.compost> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What ass-backwards punishments were you subjected to by schools
>>>> and other "authorities" back in the day?
>>>
>>> None. I enjoyed school and comported myself as an adult. Amazingly,
>>> I was treated as an adult because I acted like one. It worked out
>>> well for everyone.
>>
>> Uh-huh. We got a Little Ms. Tuffet here. Like Marty's mother,
>> Lorraine McFly.
>
> Notice that I didn't say a damned thing about how I acted outside
> of school.
>
LOL Cindy, and ditto! I enjoyed school and was never sent to the
Principal's office much less "suspended". Lots of my friends would
sneak off campus at lunchtime to smoke a joint; I never went with them.
After school was a different story.

Jill

Thomas Joseph

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Mar 15, 2023, 6:10:58 PM3/15/23
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Thomas wrote:

> I skipped school at home. Mom forgot something for work and came home. I hid.
> She thought there was a burglar and called the cops. They handcuffed me and took me to > > school.
> I was handcuffed the entire day, all classes.


You deserved it ya stupid fool. I never skipped school. But I hated it
more than anyone I ever knew and could not wait to get out. I know
a lot of kids that played hooky but I only did it once. It was boring. I
felt like a fugitive, like I was in hiding. So instead I chose to remain
in school and stare at the clock all day. That's all I did.

I had mandatory weekly visits to a shrink and I did not like them.
I could have maybe had some fun with it but I didn't. It was every
Wednesday. Usually the teacher would get word from the main
office and my name would be called. But nothing was revealed.
Then one day the teacher called my name in front of the class and
said, "Your psychologist is waiting for you." That was not a punishment,
just another memory from school. About your handcuffs, did you have
to wear them in penmanship class too?

Thomas Joseph

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Mar 15, 2023, 6:20:02 PM3/15/23
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f...@sdf.org wrote:

> pretty much the same here. once i got caught having a quick cigarette
> behind the buses at the end of the day in middle school. teacher told
> me to go to the office and they'd call my parents to come get me after
> the buses left. they were both at work and calling either out of work
> to get me would have not ended well for them so i did the school a big
> favor. i walked in the front door, past the office, out the back door
> by the gym, and through the woods to get home. nothing else ever became
> of it like it never happened.


It was junior high, 7th grade. We were outside on school grounds
smoking cigarets. The Principal walked by and said to put them out.
I already had mine cupped in my hand which was inside my coat
pocket. I was good at cupping cigarets. Then as the group dispersed
the Principal said, "Oh Thomas I'd like to see you in my office." I was
sort of side by side with him. I still had the cig in my hand in my
pocket and was hoping it would go out. But it didn't. I made it
quite some distance though. It was in the Principal's office that
my hand had taken all it could and I let out a loud yelp and flung
the butt onto the floor as the Principal broke out with laughter which
made me see him as a human being for the first time.

Sqwertz

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Mar 15, 2023, 6:29:59 PM3/15/23
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On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 17:29:58 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On 2023-03-15, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.compost> wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 08:51:33 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> On 2023-03-15, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.compost> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What ass-backwards punishments were you subjected to by schools
>>>> and other "authorities" back in the day?
>>>
>>> None. I enjoyed school and comported myself as an adult. Amazingly,
>>> I was treated as an adult because I acted like one. It worked out
>>> well for everyone.
>>
>> Uh-huh. We got a Little Ms. Tuffet here. Like Marty's mother,
>> Lorraine McFly.
>
> Notice that I didn't say a damned thing about how I acted outside
> of school.

Well, the subject was any "auhtorities" not just in school. Were
you a punk-rocking, anarchist slut outside of school? What's the
worst thing you did as a kid? Were you ever a kid, come to think
of it?

-sw

Thomas Joseph

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Mar 15, 2023, 8:23:08 PM3/15/23
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Sqwertz wrote:

> Well, the subject was any "auhtorities" not just in school. Were
> you a punk-rocking, anarchist slut outside of school? What's the
> worst thing you did as a kid? Were you ever a kid, come to think
> of it?


lol.

Thomas

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Mar 15, 2023, 8:49:35 PM3/15/23
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Help me improve, twat. I enjoy the humor and suffering in your posts.

Thomas Joseph

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Mar 15, 2023, 9:53:21 PM3/15/23
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Thomas wrote:

> Help me improve, twat. I enjoy the humor and suffering in your posts.


So do I. Thanks.

Michael Trew

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Mar 16, 2023, 12:29:44 AM3/16/23
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Maybe in secondary school, but I doubt that you acted like "an adult"
for your entire school career.

You might not like children, but I guarantee that you were once a child.
I'd bet you'd be miserable if you had to be around a 4 year old
version of yourself for a day ;)

Bruce

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Mar 16, 2023, 12:34:56 AM3/16/23
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No problem. That 4 year old would spend the day googling bibimbap.

Leonard Blaisdell

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Mar 16, 2023, 2:21:07 AM3/16/23
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On 2023-03-15, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.compost> wrote:

> What ass-backwards punishments were you subjected to by schools
> and other "authorities" back in the day?


In general, I was a good boy. Dad would spank me, or in egregious
situations, spank me with a soft slipper. I sometimes disrespected my
Mom.
When that happened, she would say, "Wait until your Dad gets home!"
That was cruel punishment. Oftentimes, she didn't tell him. Sometimes,
she did. I didn't know what was going to happen!
Effective.

leo

Leonard Blaisdell

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Mar 16, 2023, 2:46:53 AM3/16/23
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On 2023-03-15, Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> We had a smoking area at my highschool in the late 60s. There was about
> as much pot smoked there as tobacco.


I graduated high school in 1964. Smoking cigarettes was practically
expected. Drinking was edgy but not condemned. That's it! There was no
dope. I'm speaking about "my" high school in rural Nevada.
All of that changed in 1965.

Leonard Blaisdell

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Mar 16, 2023, 3:01:16 AM3/16/23
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On 2023-03-15, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.compost> wrote:

> And in 7th grade, a math teacher: If you were called on to give an
> answer to something and you got the answer wrong, she'd bring a
> glass of water over to your desk, dip her fingers in it, and
> splash water in your face. And the other kids were supposed to
> mock and laugh at you and if you didn't - then you'd get splashed
> too.

> WTF!?! Some pretty demented shit, IMO. I think teachers back then
> should have had their own behavioral counselors, not the students.


You'd think! When I was in the eighth grade, they could still whack your
ass if you were out of line and send you to the principal. My eighth
grade teacher gave noogies. I got some! Ah, Mr. Cooper.
I miss those days. Humans need discipline.

leo

Cindy Hamilton

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Mar 16, 2023, 4:37:39 AM3/16/23
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Um, Steve? Punk rock was somewhat past my time in school (or at
least it hadn't taken hold in the Detroit suburbs). Even disco had
barely gained a foothold on the radio. I exercised my inner rebel
by listening to jazz and classical music instead of what everybody
else was listening to.

Alcohol was my drug of choice.

I can't recall the worst thing I did, since I never interacted
with the authorities. It's smarter to not get caught.

--
Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton

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Mar 16, 2023, 4:46:37 AM3/16/23
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On 2023-03-16, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
> On 3/15/2023 4:51, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2023-03-15, Sqwertz<sqwe...@gmail.compost> wrote:
>>>
>>> What ass-backwards punishments were you subjected to by schools
>>> and other "authorities" back in the day?
>>
>> None. I enjoyed school and comported myself as an adult. Amazingly,
>> I was treated as an adult because I acted like one. It worked out
>> well for everyone.
>
> Maybe in secondary school, but I doubt that you acted like "an adult"
> for your entire school career.

You'd be amazed. My family made it clear my job was to bring home
straight A's, and I mostly succeeded. You should have seen the
disappointment on their faces when I brought home a test with a
score of 99%.

> You might not like children, but I guarantee that you were once a child.
> I'd bet you'd be miserable if you had to be around a 4 year old
> version of yourself for a day ;)

Since we started off talking about "the hallways went dead for first
period" and pot smoking and stuff, I focused on high school.

I was an only child in a house with four adults (grandparents, mother,
uncle) until I was 9. Quiet and bookish. Disappointing to my
grandmother, who wanted me to be a little princess whereas I wanted
to be a cowboy, nuclear physicist, or spy.

--
Cindy Hamilton

f...@sdf.org

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Mar 16, 2023, 6:34:49 AM3/16/23
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On 2023-03-15, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.compost> wrote:

> What's the worst thing you did as a kid?

first rule of arson club is never get caught. second rule of arson club
is never talk about arson club.

f...@sdf.org

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Mar 16, 2023, 8:54:22 AM3/16/23
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in middle school we'd go to the restroom right next to the office to
smoke. like commiting crimes in front of police stations right under
thier noses since they're not looking for it there. i sold many doobs in
the library parking lot right next to the police station. that was before
cameras were pointed everywhere, anyway. would stand on the toilets
and pass the smoke around just under the air return in the ceiling. the
cherry on the smoke was nearly as long as the smoke itself from being
hit on so hard so fast when flushed. we thought that we were getting away
with it because we never got caught in the act. later in life when i quit
smoking i realized they knew it because there's no way to disguise the
smell. if you smoke, you smell like it. period. my graduating class was
well over 600 people in a suburb. my freshman year was in the middle
school because the high school didn't have the capacity. the schools
had much bigger problems to deal with than some kids smoking in the johns.

Dave Smith

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Mar 16, 2023, 9:08:07 AM3/16/23
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The mid 60s made a big difference. My wife is 5 years older than I am
and when she went to university she only know one person who smoked pot.
Almost all of my friends in high school were smoking it by grade 11
and at university there were not many who did not smoke it at all.

Sqwertz

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Mar 16, 2023, 9:34:27 AM3/16/23
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This isn't a Congressional Hearing. We'll move on and just put
you down on the record as being evasive during questioning. And,
"was never a child".

-sw

Gary

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Mar 16, 2023, 10:17:56 AM3/16/23
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This calls for a couple of interesting stories, Jill and Cindy.
How did yoose act AFTER school?

I was a nerd in school except for 12th grade.
That's when I learned about all the bad habits.
That's when I actually turned into a real teenager. lol



Bryan Simmons

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Mar 16, 2023, 12:57:50 PM3/16/23
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Iggy is from Ypsilanti. Iggy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iggy_Pop
The MC5 were from Lincoln Park.
>
> Alcohol was my drug of choice.
>
Alcohol was harder to get. In 7-9 grade, we knew a guy
who sold us whiskey, but that was infrequent. The
parents let us drink their beer if they were having a BBQ
or party, but otherwise beer was a rare treat. We had
pot all the time.
>
> --
> Cindy Hamilton

--Bryan

jmcquown

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Mar 16, 2023, 5:04:45 PM3/16/23
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On 3/16/2023 10:17 AM, Gary wrote:
> On 3/15/2023 5:56 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 3/15/2023 1:29 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> Notice that I didn't say a damned thing about how I acted outside
>>> of school.
>>>
>> LOL Cindy, and ditto!  I enjoyed school and was never sent to the
>> Principal's office much less "suspended".  Lots of my friends would
>> sneak off campus at lunchtime to smoke a joint; I never went with
>> them. After school was a different story.
>
> This calls for a couple of interesting stories, Jill and Cindy.
> How did yoose act AFTER school?
>
I can't speak for Cindy but no real "stories" here. After school,
friends and I would gather at one friends house or another - there were
two I can recall whose parents were "cool" and didn't mind if we smoked
a little weed. We'd listen to music and talk. IIRC school got out
around 2:15PM. I just had to be home before dinner time and usually was
home at least an hour earlier than that. I also didn't do this every day.

> I was a nerd in school except for 12th grade.
> That's when I learned about all the bad habits.
> That's when I actually turned into a real teenager. lol
>
You were a late bloomer. LOL

Jill

Thomas Joseph

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f...@sdf.org wrote:

> in middle school we'd go to the restroom right next to the office to
> smoke. like commiting crimes in front of police stations right under
> thier noses since they're not looking for it there. i sold many doobs in
> the library parking lot right next to the police station. that was before
> cameras were pointed everywhere, anyway. would stand on the toilets
> and pass the smoke around just under the air return in the ceiling. the
> cherry on the smoke was nearly as long as the smoke itself from being
> hit on so hard so fast when flushed. we thought that we were getting away
> with it because we never got caught in the act. later in life when i quit
> smoking i realized they knew it because there's no way to disguise the
> smell. if you smoke, you smell like it. period. my graduating class was
> well over 600 people in a suburb. my freshman year was in the middle
> school because the high school didn't have the capacity. the schools
> had much bigger problems to deal with than some kids smoking in the johns.


When I was a kid in Allentown Pa weed was not so easy to get. If it
was I didn't know it or care enough. Even when I moved to L.A. - I
was always a drinker first - I had to be buzzed by booze or the weed
would make me paranoid. I was a hyper guy. Still am but don't have
the energy to prove it. Yeah, the old restroom. Lots of shit in there
(besides shit) - mostly smoking and some illegal fireworks exchanged.

I get the impression you know they knew what was going on and there
wasn't much they could do about it. I was never a fan of authority. But
I find it interesting. I always looked at teachers as non human. But
stories where their humanness is revealed - not just teachers but anybody -
I enjoy those stories. In PA if you wanted to quit school you had to be
at least 16 and have parental permission. I was 15. I wanted out. Bad.
I kept acting up and getting sent to the Principal's office. The last time
he had me in his office he said, "You really don't like school, do you
Joseph?" I said no, I do not. He told me to go upstairs and get my
books and bring them down. I had no idea what he was going to do.
I came back with the books and he said, "Put them on the table." I
did so and he said, "Ok, go", and I genuinely did not know exactly
what he meant. I said, "You mean...........?", and he said, "Yes, leave
and don't come back." I swear to God no exaggeration I must have
thanked him 5 or 6 times in a row and I meant it and he could see
it - and for the first time in all our meetings I saw him as an actual
human being. Maybe he saw me the same way. It was a nice experience.

Bruce

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On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 22:28:24 -0700 (PDT), Thomas Joseph
<jazee...@gmail.com> wrote:

> f...@sdf.org wrote:
>
>> in middle school we'd go to the restroom right next to the office to
>> smoke. like commiting crimes in front of police stations right under
>> thier noses since they're not looking for it there. i sold many doobs in
>> the library parking lot right next to the police station. that was before
>> cameras were pointed everywhere, anyway. would stand on the toilets
>> and pass the smoke around just under the air return in the ceiling. the
>> cherry on the smoke was nearly as long as the smoke itself from being
>> hit on so hard so fast when flushed. we thought that we were getting away
>> with it because we never got caught in the act. later in life when i quit
>> smoking i realized they knew it because there's no way to disguise the
>> smell. if you smoke, you smell like it. period. my graduating class was
>> well over 600 people in a suburb. my freshman year was in the middle
>> school because the high school didn't have the capacity. the schools
>> had much bigger problems to deal with than some kids smoking in the johns.
>
>
>When I was a kid in Allentown Pa weed was not so easy to get. If it
>was I didn't know it or care enough. Even when I moved to L.A. - I
>was always a drinker first - I had to be buzzed by booze or the weed
>would make me paranoid. I was a hyper guy. Still am but don't have
>the energy to prove it. Yeah, the old restroom. Lots of shit in there
>(besides shit) - mostly smoking and some illegal fireworks exchanged.

I lived opposite a weed shop for years in the late 80s. The local
tobacco seller opposite the weed shop was often complaining to me
about all the stoners in the street. But he did sell the extra long
cigarette paper used to roll joints.

Sqwertz

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Mar 17, 2023, 3:38:46 AM3/17/23
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On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 22:28:24 -0700 (PDT), Thomas Joseph wrote:

> When I was a kid in Allentown Pa weed was not so easy to get.

You sure have lived a lot of places when you were a kid,
supposedly.

But Thomas, Ed, and I all know there were no Arabs in Allentown in
1960-1980.

-sw

Thomas Joseph

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Mar 17, 2023, 5:02:53 PM3/17/23
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Bruce wrote:

> tobacco seller opposite the weed shop was often complaining to me
> about all the stoners in the street. But he did sell the extra long
> cigarette paper used to roll joints.


Reminds me of a guy whose religion says he can't drink but he'll
gladly sell it to others. It also reminds me of an old Hustler magazine
cartoon - a one-framer - that showed a large building with "Suicide
Prevention Center" on it. And outside the building were long rows
of peddlers selling razor blades, rope nooses, and other various
items good for killing one's self. I was in high school in the early
60s. No weed shops around back then. On that topic, I do smoke
and I see the weed industry is every bit as much into marketing
as other businesses - all sorts of new strains coming out that
it's hard to find something old and reliable. It's just like in the
stores where companies take proven standbys off the shelves
to make room for new shit they're trying to sell.

Thomas Joseph

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Mar 17, 2023, 5:11:30 PM3/17/23
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Sqwertz wrote:

> You sure have lived a lot of places when you were a kid,
> supposedly.
>
> But Thomas, Ed, and I all know there were no Arabs in Allentown in
> 1960-1980.


Really? The District Attorney of Lehigh Valley of which Allentown
is the seat was an Arab and was my cousin. Another cousin, Willie
Restum, played sax and sang at various clubs nationwide but was
a mainstay at "The Dream Lounge" in Miami Beach for years. I know
you're just trying to egg me on, but there were plenty of Arabs in
Allentown Pa. And their part of town was one of the cleanest
around. My word is not enough, google it up. That's the way
today with people taking the word of the weatherman over a
friend who just came in from outside. "Man, it's cold out there",
he says which yields the following response: "Can't be. The
weatherman just said it's warm outside." My family was not
Muslim. But I know a few. Do you want me to take a fatwah
out on you to prove it?

Bruce

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Mar 17, 2023, 5:20:37 PM3/17/23
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On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 14:02:50 -0700 (PDT), Thomas Joseph
<jazee...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Bruce wrote:
>
>> tobacco seller opposite the weed shop was often complaining to me
>> about all the stoners in the street. But he did sell the extra long
>> cigarette paper used to roll joints.
>
>
>Reminds me of a guy whose religion says he can't drink but he'll
>gladly sell it to others.

Yes, retailers tend to have very flexible morals.

>It also reminds me of an old Hustler magazine
>cartoon - a one-framer - that showed a large building with "Suicide
>Prevention Center" on it. And outside the building were long rows
>of peddlers selling razor blades, rope nooses, and other various
>items good for killing one's self. I was in high school in the early
>60s. No weed shops around back then. On that topic, I do smoke
>and I see the weed industry is every bit as much into marketing
>as other businesses - all sorts of new strains coming out that
>it's hard to find something old and reliable. It's just like in the
>stores where companies take proven standbys off the shelves
>to make room for new shit they're trying to sell.

Soon they'll be adding fake vanilla, "weed flavor"and xanthan gum to
your weed.

Thomas Joseph

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Mar 17, 2023, 5:27:23 PM3/17/23
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Bruce wrote:

> Soon they'll be adding fake vanilla, "weed flavor"and xanthan gum to
> your weed.



I have never made my own edibles. Too risky cost wise. But I
have been to a few weed sites on the web and most of them
hawking edibles as well as weed itself talk about how this or
that strain tastes like strawberries or coffee or some other
non weed flavor. Funny, I actually like the smell of weed. And
the only edibles I ever had that came from a regular in the cab
was a small lollipop with a caramel consistency. But it tasted
like weed, good weed. I liked it. I did not eat the whole thing.
I removed the caramel substance from the lollipop stick and
formed it into a 4 sided log. Then on intuition alone I cut it
into 3 pieces. I took one each day and it was perfect. But I
also had some smokable weed on hand as I also enjoy a bit
of heat in the throat, especially back when I was drinking a
lot. In some ways the old Mexican dirt weed full of stems
and seeds had its advantages.

Sell, sell, sell

Thomas Joseph

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Mar 17, 2023, 5:29:02 PM3/17/23
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> Bruce wrote:

> > Soon they'll be adding fake vanilla, "weed flavor"and xanthan gum to
> > your weed.


Today's luxury is tomorrow's necessity.

Gary

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Mar 18, 2023, 4:58:22 AM3/18/23
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Bruce wrote:
> Soon they'll be adding fake vanilla, "weed flavor"and xanthan gum to
> your weed.

The peanut butter pie flavor is a good start.
I'm still chuckling over that one.




Bruce

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Mar 18, 2023, 5:26:28 AM3/18/23
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If that's peanut butter pie laced with weed, it doesn't sound so bad
to me. I wouldn't mind trying weed, but I don't want to start smoking
again.

Thomas

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Mar 18, 2023, 8:48:57 AM3/18/23
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Back in the day I quit weed and picked up cigarettes. I was cool.

Bryan Simmons

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Mar 18, 2023, 9:16:35 AM3/18/23
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These weird sounding flavors are just cultivars of
cannabis. They aren't flavored. One of the popular
ones is called Fruity Pebbles. Folks are constantly
crossing them. There's one called Ice Cream Cake,
and another called Animal Mints. There are is no
ice cream, cake, animals or mint in the cross, but
boy is it potent.
https://www.floracalfarms.com/strains/ice-cream-cake-x-animal-mints

--Bryan

songbird

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jmcquown wrote:
...
> LOL Cindy, and ditto! I enjoyed school and was never sent to the
> Principal's office much less "suspended". Lots of my friends would
> sneak off campus at lunchtime to smoke a joint; I never went with them.
> After school was a different story.

i learned almost all my high school math under the influence
of pot and it was really good for me in that i could really
concentrate and be single minded. the problem is that at
college i had no study skills and was in a whole different
league of classes, plus lost (having skipped a pre-calculus
class and been placed right into calculus). it was a disaster
for me for a while and i didn't figure out things until too
late really, but i should have dropped that firt calculus
class and gone back and taken a pre-calculus class but i
didn't even know i could drop classes until after it was
too late in the term.

having been in a different state of mind to learn all the
math meant i didn't really have good access to that learning
while not under the influence. i also did not have the study
skills and steady state of mind i really needed for that.
also along with all the discipline i needed for my programming
classes. i was pretty much primarily in math or computer
science classes for 7 years (working almost full time as a
programmer aside from taking classes sometimes up to 20
credits a term). i spent way too much time in the computer
labs and trying to make sense of stuff that didn't make sense
to me (math of certain kinds).

the thing is that later in my college classes i was taking
math classes like group theory and graph theory and all that
was quite ok with me. then in the philosophy and humanities
side i was also taking classes like symbolic logic and
cognitive sciences (before AI and neural networks got as
popular as they became later). my master's degree was work-
ing on a neural network for evaluating scientific theories.
very interesting to me but it wasn't something i could finish.
i was burnt out on taking classes and being poor by that
point so i gave up half-way through the master's degree. it
would have been a much different life for me had i stuck it
out. but i'm pretty happy with how my life has gone so...

ha, i didn't expect to write so much, but i guess i'm in
a rambly mood this morning. :)


songbird

songbird

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Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 09:47:02 -0400, songbird wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>> ...
>>> What ass-backwards punishments were you subjected to by schools
>>> and other "authorities" back in the day?
>>
>> just being there was bad enough.
>>
>> i often had a flask of whiskey in my coat pocket. i smoked
>> weed before or during lunch. i didn't get into fights or
>> cause other problems.
>
> I think taking hooch to grade school is pretty hardcore. We had a
> lot of pot smokers back in the early 80's and that was common
> behind the school in the "Smoking Section" (it stretched the whole
> length of back of the school - at least 200 yards(*)

it was jr. high and high school. i didn't start smoking
cigs until 8yrs old. by 13yrs i started smoking weed and
told myself i could do one or the other but not both. so
quit smoking cigs cold turkey (i still dream of them once
in a while and a fresh whiff of pipe, cigar or cig smoke is
like a hit to the brain, but i don't smoke any longer - my
lungs don't do well with any smoke now).


> But I don't recall anybody ever having booze or drinking anything
> at school. Pot, a cid, black beauties, yellow jackets, mushrooms,
> etc... but no booze.

i was surprised i never got busted. i'd say i had that flask
with whiskey in it for half of the first two years of high school.
i eased off on it later on and by halfway through 10th grade when
i decided i was going to college i'd backed off of that and the
weed. by the time i graduated i was done with most of it all and
didn't drink as much in college. once a week with some friends
for a while, but then they graduated and moved away and that was
it for me and drinking. i think i drink maybe once or twice a
year now and rarely more than a single.


>> i only got busted once for passing a few joints to a friend
>> when a teacher walked around the corner and saw it happen. he
>> held out his hand and we gave him the joints.
>
> And here I had *you* figured for Little Ms. Tuffit. Right on!
> Groovy! :-) But I still don't think that's Cindy. Naaah.

Ms. ? i'm not female...


> (*) Make that 275 yards. It looks like they swapped the Junior
> and Senior High School buildings.

i've not been back to visit or within a half mile of any of
the schools since i left them at 18.


songbird

songbird

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Mar 18, 2023, 9:56:46 AM3/18/23
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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
...
> I can't recall the worst thing I did, since I never interacted
> with the authorities. It's smarter to not get caught.

see, that's the thing, with three older siblings i'd been
observant enough on how not to get caught. or lucky.

anyways, i rarely had any contact with authorities and did
not cause trouble. in elementary school i had more fights.
that was not major stuff though. i got all that under control
by age 15. but those are other stories. :)


songbird

songbird

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f...@sdf.org wrote:
...
> first rule of arson club is never get caught. second rule of arson club
> is never talk about arson club.

other stories...

one time we had to run home and call the fire department
because we set a hill on fire and could not put it out.

i'd say it wasn't my fault, but i was there and participated
so i copped responsibility and got my ass whupped for it but
i did not take the bottle of gasoline and dump it on open
flames and i did not then take that bottle of gas that was
now on fire and throw it in the big pile of brush... that was
the other guy who was shorter on brains...


songbird

Cindy Hamilton

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Mar 18, 2023, 10:08:07 AM3/18/23
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On 2023-03-18, songbird <song...@anthive.com> wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> ...
>> I can't recall the worst thing I did, since I never interacted
>> with the authorities. It's smarter to not get caught.
>
> see, that's the thing, with three older siblings i'd been
> observant enough on how not to get caught. or lucky.

My husband was the youngest of five boys. His next-older brother was
the hellraiser, and my husband was able to learn from his brother's
mistakes.

--
Cindy Hamilton

songbird

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Mar 18, 2023, 10:13:35 AM3/18/23
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Sqwertz wrote:
...
> 8th grade gym teacher with the 36" paddle with holes in the
> business end. Almost got that one time with another kid. The
> other kid was at bat first - and said, "You touch me with that
> paddle and my dad will be here by lunchtime to blow your head off
> with a shotgun". Yikes! You didn't talk to adults that way back
> then in my area. But knowing this kid, he could very well have a
> father who WOULD do that. So the gym teacher backed down and let
> us go. What a pussy! Heh.

...

every time i got paddled in school i deserved it (once). i
was talking to someone in class and the teacher got fed up with
us and took us all out into the hall and whacked us. the
problem was he was a small guy and could not get much behind it
(pun intended i think). so we were all trying very hard not to
laugh. the teacher was actually a good guy and we were fine.

that was the first time i tried to learn algebra, but 5th
grade was a bit too early for that for me. later on i picked
it up just fine.


songbird

Mike Duffy

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Mar 18, 2023, 2:17:37 PM3/18/23
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On 2023-03-18, songbird wrote:

> My master's degree was working on a neural
> network for evaluating scientific theories.

Did you ever look into the theory about how
P nuclei spin states adjust the breakdown
voltage for synapse firing and how it applies
to phase delays between clusters of neurons?

This essentially gives rise the possibility of
quantum bits within the hydrated apatite found
in rectilinear 'Posner' molecules.

I've given rudimentary explanations here in the past,
but nobody ever asked any cogent follow-up questions.

Bryan Simmons

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Mar 18, 2023, 2:53:56 PM3/18/23
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Quantum mechanics is the chink in the armor
of hard determinism.

--Bryan

Michael Trew

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Mar 18, 2023, 3:30:25 PM3/18/23
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On 3/16/2023 4:46, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-03-16, Michael Trew<michae...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> Maybe in secondary school, but I doubt that you acted like "an adult"
>> for your entire school career.
>
> You'd be amazed. My family made it clear my job was to bring home
> straight A's, and I mostly succeeded. You should have seen the
> disappointment on their faces when I brought home a test with a
> score of 99%.

That sounds like my paternal grandfather. I never met him, but dad told
me he'd be punished for getting a single answer wrong. Apparently, he
didn't like extra credit, either. Dad scored over 100 per cent in one
class, and since "you can't do better than 100 per cent" in real life,
he had a talk with that teacher. Since dad's father was on the school
board, the teacher got the message, and no more "extra credit".

Thomas Joseph

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Mar 18, 2023, 5:33:32 PM3/18/23
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Marketing makes me sick. I buy most of my stuff at thrift stores
when I have the energy to get up and out. Been doing it all my
life. But I got into walking at age 30 and later in my 50s or 60s
got my first pair of merino wool socks and have worn nothing
but wools socks ever since. $20 plus a pair. Worth it. I bought
one pair over the web from "Farm to Feet" and ever since I am
on their mailing list. I can delete them but I don't mind. I'm just
saying I get something from them nearly every day with all kinds
of new crap appearing on a regular basis like a revolving door.
The first pair of socks I bought from these people at a local
brick and mortar store were the best of the 6 pair I've bought
since. The styles keep changing. The names. Shoes are
even worse. I buy weed every 3 weeks. No legal stores
around here. Same thing. Every time I see the guy he's
got something different. The one I've using right now is
called Cheetah Piss. They all seem about the same, which
is not bad but nothing extra special. But the hybrids, the
different combos of this and that, none of them I've ever
had seem any better than the stuff I used to get that never
had a name. Anyway, marketing really does make me sick
and (with exceptions), I believe most products are at their
peak when they first come out, or shortly after - and every
alteration after that is pure marketing with a new and improved
garbage motif.

Thomas Joseph

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Mar 18, 2023, 5:41:02 PM3/18/23
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Your story had a 'What If?" vibe to it. The reality is, had you quit
your ambition even earlier things might have worked out even
better. I was glad to hear you acknowledge that things are not
so bad regardless. No kidding. This applies to all kinds of stuff
we can look back on wondering if things would have worked out
better if we had stuck with it. If you're alive you're ahead. As for
the education industry, I was never a fan and got out of school for
good when I was 15. I have no regrets other than vague stuff like
I could have treated people and pets better. But as for advancement
via education, I was happy with my choice to quit school - to force
them to kick me out. I was happy with that choice then and now.
I'm glad I learned the ABCs, had it forced on me. I'm glad. But
the rest of it, sorry, I think it's pure bullshit. Just a place to keep
kids off the street. AND OUT OF MY FACE.

Thomas Joseph

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Mar 18, 2023, 5:42:35 PM3/18/23
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Mike Duffy wrote:

> Did you ever look into the theory about how
> P nuclei spin states adjust the breakdown
> voltage for synapse firing and how it applies
> to phase delays between clusters of neurons?
>
> This essentially gives rise the possibility of
> quantum bits within the hydrated apatite found
> in rectilinear 'Posner' molecules.
>
> I've given rudimentary explanations here in the past,
> but nobody ever asked any cogent follow-up questions.


And you blame them?

Hank Rogers

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Mar 18, 2023, 6:03:46 PM3/18/23
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Well, I once let a fart that I'm damn sure was quantum entangled to
the master in oz. It originally had a spin 0 state when it left my
asshole, but it bounced back spin +1, with a hadron boomerang, plus
two pi mesons, and several photons from the energy released when it
was sniffed. The james web telescope also captured some of the
radiated emissions from the event.

Is that cogent enough for you?







GM

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Mar 18, 2023, 6:27:37 PM3/18/23
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Mebbe for "master" you could phrase it in "simpler" terms...???

Like what is the "sniff ratio"...???

--
GM


Leonard Blaisdell

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Mar 18, 2023, 6:37:45 PM3/18/23
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On 2023-03-16, Leonard Blaisdell <leobla...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> You'd think! When I was in the eighth grade, they could still whack your
> ass if you were out of line and send you to the principal. My eighth
> grade teacher gave noogies. I got some! Ah, Mr. Cooper.
> I miss those days. Humans need discipline.


It's always classy when someone responds to themselves. I inadvertently
lied about Mr. Cooper. He didn't give us noogies. He thwacked us on the
top of the head with a hard thumb-middle finger flick. Nobody wanted
that. Age and hard head-flicks dull the brain. Apologies for the lie.

Thomas Joseph

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Mar 18, 2023, 6:40:51 PM3/18/23
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Hank Rogers wrote:
Mike Duffy wrote:

> > Did you ever look into the theory about how
> > P nuclei spin states adjust the breakdown
> > voltage for synapse firing and how it applies
> > to phase delays between clusters of neurons?
> >
> > This essentially gives rise the possibility of
> > quantum bits within the hydrated apatite found
> > in rectilinear 'Posner' molecules.
> >
> > I've given rudimentary explanations here in the past,
> > but nobody ever asked any cogent follow-up questions.


> Well, I once let a fart that I'm damn sure was quantum entangled to
> the master in oz. It originally had a spin 0 state when it left my
> asshole, but it bounced back spin +1, with a hadron boomerang, plus
> two pi mesons, and several photons from the energy released when it
> was sniffed. The james web telescope also captured some of the
> radiated emissions from the event.
>
> Is that cogent enough for you?


I was going to eschew the variance of your philosophy when
suddenly the word "fart" caught my eye, inducing me to
more completely embrace the urgency of your message.
With vague aperitif in question and the filibuster of a lifetime
awaiting us all I am inclined to not only acknowledge the
profundity of your comments but to embrace them as a call
to arms against the evils of the world as set down in
scripture many eons ago. Yes, your comments were cogent.
But even more so they gave off a vibe of brilliance beyond
the words themselves, the meaning of which is attained not
through reading the words but by focusing on the pattern of
the text alone. You don't need to read the words, man - I'm
telling you it's all about patterns.

Hank Rogers

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Mar 18, 2023, 6:53:59 PM3/18/23
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Thomas Joseph wrote:
> Gary wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
>
>
>> Soon they'll be adding fake vanilla, "weed flavor"and xanthan gum to
>> your weed.
>
>> The peanut butter pie flavor is a good start.
>> I'm still chuckling over that one.
>
>
> Marketing makes me sick. I buy most of my stuff at thrift stores
> when I have the energy to get up and out. Been doing it all my
> life. But I got into walking at age 30 and later in my 50s or 60s
> got my first pair of merino wool socks and have worn nothing
> but wools socks ever since. $20 plus a pair. Worth it. I bought

Must be that time of the month. You always tell us about your wool
socks every week or two. I bet they stink. That's OK. I like
repetition.

Popeye got me accustomed to that. Still, I like your reform school
and hollywood poolroom stories more. Say, did you ever meet the
beverly hillbillies?


Thomas Joseph

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Mar 18, 2023, 7:08:24 PM3/18/23
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Hank Rogers wrote:

> Must be that time of the month. You always tell us about your wool
> socks every week or two. I bet they stink. That's OK. I like
> repetition.
>
> Popeye got me accustomed to that. Still, I like your reform school
> and hollywood poolroom stories more. Say, did you ever meet the
> beverly hillbillies?


Wow, I know I've mentioned the wool socks before but must
have underestimated just how often. Every week or two, wow,
that's out there.

I'm sorry, I got into the socks only to lead into something else,
something more pertinent to the topic at hand. I went too far.
Yes, maybe they do stink. I can't tell and there's not a stink
detector machine within walking distance.

Naturally my post was about marketing in general and how it
applies in a big way to weed as well as products advertised on
TV and elsewhere. I started off into this topic with a slight
detour into Socks-ville and got hung up there for some time.
I am glad you like my poolroom and reform school stories. They
are all true. True stories tend to get the most positive response
except for now and then obviously outrageous fairy tales I might
come up with. Yes, the truth is always the best. Thank you. I have
other true stories that are far out enough that many suspect I'm
making them up, but I'm not. I hesitate to tell those because I
hate when people challenge my truth.

%

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Mar 18, 2023, 7:26:46 PM3/18/23
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Bryan Simmons wrote:
> Quantum mechanics is the chink in the armor
> of hard determinism.
>
> --Bryan
>
>
Try copy pasting some death wishes next time.

Hank Rogers

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Mar 18, 2023, 7:40:44 PM3/18/23
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The singular event was recorded at los alamos national lab, and
lawrence livermore national lab.

Fermilab probably recorded it also, but I haven't checked yet;

Bruce

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Mar 18, 2023, 8:36:23 PM3/18/23
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On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 14:33:29 -0700 (PDT), Thomas Joseph
<jazee...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Gary wrote:
>Bruce wrote:
>
>
>> Soon they'll be adding fake vanilla, "weed flavor"and xanthan gum to
>> your weed.
>
>> The peanut butter pie flavor is a good start.
>> I'm still chuckling over that one.
>
>
>Marketing makes me sick.

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songbird

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Mar 18, 2023, 8:54:38 PM3/18/23
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Mike Duffy wrote:
...
> Did you ever look into the theory about how
> P nuclei spin states adjust the breakdown
> voltage for synapse firing and how it applies
> to phase delays between clusters of neurons?

no, i'm not a physicist...


> This essentially gives rise the possibility of
> quantum bits within the hydrated apatite found
> in rectilinear 'Posner' molecules.
>
> I've given rudimentary explanations here in the past,
> but nobody ever asked any cogent follow-up questions.

heh, probably because nobody here understands quantum
physics or cares to get into it on a cooking group.


songbird

Hank Rogers

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Mar 18, 2023, 9:11:51 PM3/18/23
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Maybe kuth can respond. He's got 3 degrees and is "sharp as a tack"
(his words).

That's about the smartest we have, since we lost Popeye.


Thomas

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Mar 18, 2023, 10:06:34 PM3/18/23
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I was close after staying at Holiday Inn Express a while back. It wore off.

Thomas Joseph

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Mar 19, 2023, 1:53:45 AM3/19/23
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Hank Rogers wrote:

> The singular event was recorded at los alamos national lab, and
> lawrence livermore national lab.
>
> Fermilab probably recorded it also, but I haven't checked yet;


You're talking about your fart, right? How was the reek factor?
How did it correlate the sound factor? Some say a perfect
combination of smell and sound makes the perfect fart -
about 50% sound, 50% smell. Some say otherwise. Most
top notch scientists I've talked with, many working the los
alamos project, say the smell factor must always exceed
that of the sound - that too much sound detracts hogs
center stage from the reek. Others say if the reek is worthy
it's going to hang around no matter how powerful the sound.
The debate rages on, some favorites a plus ratio of stink,
others a plus ratio of sound, with few agreeing that an
absolute 50/50 ratio is the golden ticket. They are working
on it and I trust as always that the boys at los alamos know
what they're doing and will come through in the end. As always.

Thomas

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Mar 19, 2023, 7:11:44 AM3/19/23
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You really want 0/100. You can stand by an enemy in a crowd and walk away while everyone looks in disgust at him.

Gary

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Mar 19, 2023, 7:38:30 AM3/19/23
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LOL. Here's a follow-up question for you:

> ۲۰ مینی سریال عالی که باید در عید نوروز تماشا کنید
>
> عید نوروز زمان خوبی برای تجربه تماشای آثار جذاب از جمله مینی‌ سریال
های کوچک لذت‌بخش است. اکنون ما در ویجیاتو برای پاسخ‌گویی به این نیاز
مخاطب، می‌خواهیم ۲۰ مینی سریال عالی که باید در عید نوروز تماشا کنید را
به شما معرفی کنیم. اما پیش از معرفی آثار باید بدانید مرز بین یک فیلم و
یک سریال تلویزیونی به دلیل نوع خاص تولید و محبوبیت فزاینده مینی سریال
های تلویزیونی در جهان به طور مداوم در حال محو شدن است.
>
> در حالی که فرنچایزهای سینمایی شروع به تطبیق فرمول اپیزودیک سریال
تلویزیونی برای روایت داستان‌های عمیق‌تر و طولانی تر می‌کنند، سریال های
تلویزیونی نیز شروع به داشتن همان کیفیت سینمایی فیلم‌های پرفروش کرده‌اند.
جایی که قبلاً موضع سختی برایش وجود داشت، اکنون جایگاه فوق‌العاده دارد،
با فیلمسازان معتبری که تمایل بیشتری به این پروژه‌های جاه‌طلبانه دارند، و
ستاره‌های درجه یکی که تمایل بیشتری برای حضور در این پروژه‌های مینی سریال
تلویزیونی دارند. در ادامه با معرفی این آثار همراه ما باشید. ???








Gary

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Mar 19, 2023, 7:38:40 AM3/19/23
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On 3/18/2023 9:16 AM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 3:58:22 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> Bruce wrote:
>>> Soon they'll be adding fake vanilla, "weed flavor"and xanthan gum to
>>> your weed.
>> The peanut butter pie flavor is a good start.
>> I'm still chuckling over that one.
>>
> These weird sounding flavors are just cultivars of
> cannabis. They aren't flavored. One of the popular
> ones is called Fruity Pebbles. Folks are constantly
> crossing them. There's one called Ice Cream Cake,
> and another called Animal Mints. There are is no
> ice cream, cake, animals or mint in the cross, but
> boy is it potent.
> https://www.floracalfarms.com/strains/ice-cream-cake-x-animal-mints
>
> --Bryan

Many years ago I saw some novelty "chap stick."
One dollar for a tube of lip balm.
They were candy flavored (or at least scented).
I bought one - Reeses Peanut Butter Cup lip balm.

The tube looked exactly like the candy and smelled like it too.
I've never used it but the novelty factor was worth $1.00
I might still have that one in a junk drawer. (?)





Gary

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Mar 19, 2023, 7:39:01 AM3/19/23
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> ing on a neural network for evaluating scientific theories.
> very interesting to me but it wasn't something i could finish.
> i was burnt out on taking classes and being poor by that
> point so i gave up half-way through the master's degree. it
> would have been a much different life for me had i stuck it
> out. but i'm pretty happy with how my life has gone so...
>
> ha, i didn't expect to write so much, but i guess i'm in
> a rambly mood this morning. :)

That was a nice story. I enjoyed reading it. Fun to hear some of the
history of people that we talk to often.


Gary

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Mar 19, 2023, 8:10:36 AM3/19/23
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John's quote was "I'm smart as a tack." That was a funny misquote.

>
> That's about the smartest we have, since we lost Popeye

Popeye will have his 80th birthday in 2 months. (May 18)
Now that he's doing so much better ---
What a nice birthday present it would be to bring him back home to his
beloved yard, house cats, barn cats, etc.






Dave Smith

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Mar 19, 2023, 11:57:22 AM3/19/23
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We had an English teacher in high school who was a bit of a character.
He was a good looking young guy who drove a Corvette. All the girls were
in love with him. Unfortunately, he had a bit of a drinking problem and
could be counted on to be off "sick" for a month or two each year while
he was AWOL and/or in rehab.

He had a form of after school group detention, usually the same 5-6
guys. We we had to stand with our backs to the wall and not speak. Then
he would crack jokes and if anyone laughed we had to stay an extra 5
minutes. One of the guys, Lorne, was a bit of a dullard and he would ask
him ridiculous questions like who's buried in Grant's Tomb, and what
colour is a green and yellow lollipop. The questions themselves were
dumb enough to make us laugh but Lorne would invariable get them wrong
so we would laugh at his stupidity.


By coincidence, when we moved out here he was one of our neighbours and
his son used to babysit for us.

Michael Trew

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Mar 19, 2023, 6:49:19 PM3/19/23
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On 3/19/2023 8:10, Gary wrote:
> Popeye will have his 80th birthday in 2 months. (May 18)
> Now that he's doing so much better ---
> What a nice birthday present it would be to bring him back home to his
> beloved yard, house cats, barn cats, etc.

Jill posted the facility that he now lives in. Why don't you ring them
up and ask to speak to Sheldon?

Thomas Joseph

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Mar 19, 2023, 7:22:13 PM3/19/23
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Thomas wrote:

> You really want 0/100. You can stand by an enemy in a crowd and walk away while everyone looks in disgust at him.


I think I know what you mean. Today everybody wants to market
something. Even farts. Once selling enters the picture everything
goes downhill. Good old school mainstays can no longer be found.
A good old school 'silent but deadly' fart will be hard to find in the
future. Same with loud dry boomers that for eons have brought
good will and cheer to millions the world over, they too will be hard
to come by as "new and improved" hybrid farts take center stage
with fusion farts of all types on the shelves and you can't find a
good old fashioned stinker or boomer all by itself. You can't go
simple, it's all fusion and hybrid shit, new strains of farts mixed
with who the fuck knows what.

Thomas Joseph

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Mar 19, 2023, 7:30:08 PM3/19/23
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Thomas wrote:

> You really want 0/100. You can stand by an enemy in a crowd and walk away while everyone looks in disgust at him.


A short silent film (about a not so short silent fart).

A fart is cut on an a half filled elevator. We can't hear it,
we know by the disgusted expression of a woman's face
when the stink hits. The camera pans in on all the faces
in the elevator, each expressing disgust as the reek
takes hold. Everyone is looking at everyone else trying
to decide who to blame. In the meantime off to the side
we see one guy (the one who cut the fart), slipping a $50
into the pocket of another guy who then raises his hand
and says, "I did it. It was me." There is good money in
the racket. But you have to know the right people and
the right elevators. All day long, up and down - sooner or
later it's going to happen - someone's going to cut a stinker.
And they don't want to take the blame. This is your job
and it's time to go to work.

Thomas Joseph

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Mar 19, 2023, 7:32:17 PM3/19/23
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You mean you didn't see the 'holes' in it?

Gary

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Mar 20, 2023, 6:27:42 AM3/20/23
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I'm not going to pester him while he's in a facility.
I'll wait until he starts posting here again.
"What happens in RFC, stays in RFC."
He knows my addy if he ever cares to contact me personally.






f...@sdf.org

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On 2023-03-18, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
> On 3/16/2023 4:46, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2023-03-16, Michael Trew<michae...@att.net> wrote:

>>> Maybe in secondary school, but I doubt that you acted like "an adult"
>>> for your entire school career.

>> You'd be amazed. My family made it clear my job was to bring home
>> straight A's, and I mostly succeeded. You should have seen the
>> disappointment on their faces when I brought home a test with a
>> score of 99%.

> That sounds like my paternal grandfather. I never met him, but dad told
> me he'd be punished for getting a single answer wrong. Apparently, he
> didn't like extra credit, either. Dad scored over 100 per cent in one
> class, and since "you can't do better than 100 per cent" in real life,
> he had a talk with that teacher. Since dad's father was on the school
> board, the teacher got the message, and no more "extra credit".

Sounds like some of these people should have met my BOCES machine shop
teacher. (junior and senior years in high school, machine shop I and II,
not night school) There were several of us at the top of the class who got
100% on written exams only. None of the projects we made in class were
ever graded 100% because: nothing is perfect.


--
SDF Public Access UNIX System - https://sdf.org

That which does not kill you makes you stranger.
-- Trevor Goodchild - AEon Flux

f...@sdf.org

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On 2023-03-18, songbird <song...@anthive.com> wrote:
> f...@sdf.org wrote:
> ...
>> first rule of arson club is never get caught. second rule of arson club
>> is never talk about arson club.

> other stories...

> one time we had to run home and call the fire department
> because we set a hill on fire and could not put it out.

> i'd say it wasn't my fault, but i was there and participated
> so i copped responsibility and got my ass whupped for it but
> i did not take the bottle of gasoline and dump it on open
> flames and i did not then take that bottle of gas that was
> now on fire and throw it in the big pile of brush... that was
> the other guy who was shorter on brains...

I hung around some derelicts who did some really shady stuff. Made me
one of the derelicts too, I suppose. Met my wife and married her before
I turned 21. She gets most of the credit for me being here today. I was
headed for prison or death at the rate I was going before I met her.

Cindy Hamilton

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Unlike math and spelling (my two best subjects), where you can
achieve perfection.

--
Cindy Hamilton
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