From 1955 but still applies today

[Ed P]

Ladies, just follow this guide for a happy life.

https://tinyurl.com/yckk88e7

"The Good Wife's Guide" was originally published May 13th, 1955, in a
magazine called, "Housekeeping Monthly."

As the title of the article suggests, these 18 bullet points is the
guideline on how to be a "good wife." From nonstop house chores to
pampering your husband and never ever questioning anything he says and does.

[Bryan Simmons]

That's all bullshit. It's more like this:
Good girls reciprocate oral sex. Bad girls don't.

--Bryan

[lucr...@florence.it]

B A N G ! I don't believe in shooting people but Ed you changed my
mind!

[Bruce]

Isn't that what Charles expected from Diana? He goes bonking another
woman and she stays home and believes his lies when he comes back?

[GM]

I rather like it, Lucretia...

However, a rare few wives didn't fancy acting like that - Maggie Thatcher, for one...

;-D

--
GM

[Hank Rogers]

Wow, you really get around master! How did charle's and diana's
asses smell back then?

[lucr...@florence.it]

True enough, but her hubby looked happy in the background :)

[GM]

:-D

--
GM

[Bryan Simmons]

On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 6:38:30 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
> lucr...@florence.it wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 16:11:05 -0700 (PDT), GM
> > <gregorymorr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >lucr...@florence.it wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 17:38:13 -0400, Ed P <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >Ladies, just follow this guide for a happy life.
> > >> >
> > >> >https://tinyurl.com/yckk88e7
> > >> >
> > >> >"The Good Wife's Guide" was originally published May 13th, 1955, in a
> > >> >magazine called, "Housekeeping Monthly."
> > >> >
> > >> >As the title of the article suggests, these 18 bullet points is the
> > >> >guideline on how to be a "good wife." From nonstop house chores to
> > >> >pampering your husband and never ever questioning anything he says and does.
> > >> B A N G ! I don't believe in shooting people but Ed you changed my
> > >> mind!
> > >
> > >
> > >I rather like it, Lucretia...
> > >
> > >However, a rare few wives didn't fancy acting like that - Maggie Thatcher, for one...
> > >
> > >;-D
> > True enough, but her hubby looked happy in the background :)
> :-D
>

See my post earlier in the thread. Coincidentally, I had a
girlfriend named Maggie who was a bad girl. I bet that I
didn't look very happy back then.
>
> --
> GM

--Bryan

[jmcquown]

This is sooo funny! I've seen this before. Thank you, Ed. :)

Jill

[jmcquown]

On 7/11/2023 5:38 PM, Ed P wrote:

Gotta say this about that:

"Don't complain if he's late for dinner or even if he stays out all
night. Count this as minor compared to what he might have gone through
at work."

What might he have 'gone through' at work that would require a man to
stay out all night? Oh, going out to dinner with the boss and his squeeze.

Jill

[Hank Rogers]

Did that happen to you a lot, way back when you were married?

[Bruce]

Maggie Thatcher was bad too. She brought the UK to the brink of
bankruptcy, wiped out the British middle class and went to war over a
rock and a sheep.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 19:58:17 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Ed, if you had posted that many years ago, Jill would still have been
married, Ed. But Ed, thanks anyway, Ed.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 20:07:08 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Maybe he has a very stressful job and sometimes has to blow off steam
overnight with the secretary. It's understandable.

[Ed P]

My feelings are hurt. I'm just trying to bring a little happiness to
the wives of the world. This should be taught in the Home Ec classes in
high school.

[Cindy Hamilton]

First we'd have to have Home Ec classes in high school.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[lucr...@florence.it]

Lol - hopefully a young girl today would consider that ancient history
and nothing that applied to her life style!

[Bruce]

Isn't that the Republican lifestyle?

[Bryan Simmons]

On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 6:38:30 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
> lucr...@florence.it wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 16:11:05 -0700 (PDT), GM
> > <gregorymorr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >lucr...@florence.it wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 17:38:13 -0400, Ed P <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >Ladies, just follow this guide for a happy life.
> > >> >
> > >> >https://tinyurl.com/yckk88e7
> > >> >
> > >> >"The Good Wife's Guide" was originally published May 13th, 1955, in a
> > >> >magazine called, "Housekeeping Monthly."
> > >> >
> > >> >As the title of the article suggests, these 18 bullet points is the
> > >> >guideline on how to be a "good wife." From nonstop house chores to
> > >> >pampering your husband and never ever questioning anything he says and does.
> > >> B A N G ! I don't believe in shooting people but Ed you changed my
> > >> mind!
> > >
> > >
> > >I rather like it, Lucretia...
> > >
> > >However, a rare few wives didn't fancy acting like that - Maggie Thatcher, for one...
> > >
> > >;-D
> > True enough, but her hubby looked happy in the background :)
> :-D
>

In the illustration below "Be a little gay..." the wife
has a tray. What is on that tray for dinner? Unless
I'm mistaken, those are TV DINNERS! Note the
sections, and the gray color that suggests the
aluminum foil plates typical of TV dinners before
the age of the microwave. Even the little pat of
margarine that always topped the "mashed potato"
portion is in the pic.

I still think that inspired and enthusiastic fellatio
will endear more than any of that subservient shit.
>
> --
> GM

--Bryan

[Michael Trew]

I wonder if a man wrote this article? Lol

[Bryan Simmons]

Hank, the Princess refused to satisfy him. Lonely is a
man without fellatio, so he had to wander, and what was
there to keep him coming home? One of Jill's casseroles?

Do know, I'm not excusing the things that he did. He was
obviously a defective man, and poor Jill hadn't the sense
to save the wedding dress until she grew up a bit more.

--Bryan

[cshenk]

They don't really now. Charlotte did get a cooking class though and it
was reasonably varied in common basics.

[Bryan Simmons]

Both boys and girls should learn household management
in all of its aspects. A boy should learn how to cook, and
a girl should learn to reglaze a broken window. Patriarchy
should be put to rest, but the household tasks still need to
be taught, just not in the context of defined gender roles.

--Bryan

[Hank Rogers]

Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 7:17:47 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 7/11/2023 5:38 PM, Ed P wrote:
>>>> Ladies, just follow this guide for a happy life.
>>>>
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/yckk88e7
>>>>
>>>> "The Good Wife's Guide" was originally published May 13th,
>>>> 1955, in a magazine called, "Housekeeping Monthly."
>>>>
>>>> As the title of the article suggests, these 18 bullet points
>>>> is the guideline on how to be a "good wife." From nonstop
>>>> house chores to pampering your husband and never ever
>>>> questioning anything he says and does.
>>>
>>> Gotta say this about that:
>>>
>>> "Don't complain if he's late for dinner or even if he stays out
>>> all night. Count this as minor compared to what he might have
>>> gone through at work."
>>>
>>> What might he have 'gone through' at work that would require a
>>> man to stay out all night? Oh, going out to dinner with the
>>> boss and his squeeze.
>>>
>>> Jill
>> Did that happen to you a lot, way back when you were married?
>>
> Hank, the Princess refused to satisfy him. Lonely is a
> man without fellatio, so he had to wander, and what was
> there to keep him coming home? One of Jill's casseroles?
>

I'd rather have a casserole than a blow job from a piranha.

[lucr...@florence.it]

On Wed, 12 Jul 2023 16:23:37 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
<bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:

I could agree with that

[cshenk]

You misunderstood what it was. Home economics taught basics of cooking
(scratch normally), sewing, food budgeting, food preservation,
gardening, home accounting, making simple utensils (normally food but
often had brooms and picture frames), and other lifeskills based on the
times.

It morfed as times changed to relevant things to the era. Classes by
1970 were 1/2 to 40% male, and no, not to 'catch a girl'.

[S Viemeister]

> I wonder if a man wrote this article?  Lol

Women could be just as bad.

I remember being told at school, by a female teacher, that if a girl
played tennis (or any other game) with a boy, she should always make
sure he won more matches than she did. Even if she was a really good
player, and he was cr@p.

She also had suggestions for how to hide/steal money from wifey's
household allowance, to make sure she had a secret money stash.

Marriage seemed to be perceived as a battleground, rather than a
partnership.

[lucr...@florence.it]

Nope, I think as usual the message has passed over your head!

[Dave Smith]

On 2023-07-12 7:55 p.m., cshenk wrote:

> You misunderstood what it was. Home economics taught basics of cooking
> (scratch normally), sewing, food budgeting, food preservation,
> gardening, home accounting, making simple utensils (normally food but
> often had brooms and picture frames), and other lifeskills based on the
> times.
>
> It morfed as times changed to relevant things to the era. Classes by
> 1970 were 1/2 to 40% male, and no, not to 'catch a girl'.

Morfed? That would have been more of a sudden change. I went to high
school in the 60s and there were no males in home ec classes and there
were no females in shop classes. None, not a single one.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Yeah, she must have lived in some liberal paradise.

In 1969-1971 when I was in junior high school, Home Ec was required for
girls and boys were not allowed to take it. The inverse was true of
shop classes.

Home Ec was pretty useless. We learned to cook stuff like muffins
and baked eggs. In sewing, we made aprons (cobbler style). No
budgeting, food preservation, utensil making, or other life skills.

I can't remember if there was Home Ec in high school. I wasn't
paying attention to that sort of thing, since I knew I was headed
for college. There were "business" classes like bookkeeping,
data entry, and shorthand, but I was taking science and math.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Dave Smith]

I don't know if there was a written rule about it. It just didn't
happen. He started shop/home ec in Grade 7. We didn't have the
facilities in our school so we were bused to a nearby school that did
have them. The girls were automatically sent to home ec and the boys to
shop.

PhysEd classes were quite different too. Boys and girls were
segregated. We would be sent to run the harrier or cross country while
the girls played field hockey. Boys had to be able to shinny up a rope
but girls never had to do that. We had rowing facilities but there was
only men's rowing and sculling. Women did not have to do those long
endurance runs. When I worked in a canoe tripping camp they always sent
male guides with the girls trips and the girls were not allowed to
portage the canoes. The reason was than carrying heavy loads like that
would damage their reproductive organs. Apparently these days they send
out all girl trips and they carry their own canoes.

[cshenk]

Lucretia, it changed. It's not that old times 50's crap at all. The
true 'home ec' is long gone. What 'whooshed' over your head is I
disagree that it never served a purpose or that limited sexist review
was likely very slanted but culture was 'male dominated'. It changed.

[cshenk]

I went in the 70's. I took shop for 1 year and there were 3 other
girls in class. 11 boys, 4 girls. I planned to take automotive class
next year (senior year) but my boss wanted me at work by 11 (I had only
1/2 days as I had all but 2 classes for graduation). I left for work
instead and have regretted it since. It did let me pile up more for
college tuition.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Reproductive organs are much sturdier these days. And nobody
cares whether a bride has an intact hymen. Although some surprise
might be in order.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Dave Smith]

Reproductive organs had better be sturdier these days. How else would
they stand up to all the surgical realignment that seems to be the fade
these days. I guess people were right back then when they were
concerned that if boys took home ec and girls took shop they would be
turn into homos.

[Bryan Simmons]

On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 10:31:52 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> When I worked in a canoe tripping camp they always sent
> male guides with the girls trips and the girls were not allowed
> to portage the canoes. The reason was than carrying heavy
> loads like that would damage their reproductive organs.
> Apparently these days they send out all girl trips and they
> carry their own canoes.

Sad for John Kuthe. I'm sure he'd like to be a "male guide"
for 3rd and 4th grade girls.

--Bryan

[Cindy Hamilton]

You're right. I've had a 37-year-long practicum in woodworking.
Girls are looking better and better.

My husband's an excellent cook and can do some sewing. I think
he and I are meeting in the middle.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

Narrow-minded bigot strikes again.

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-07-13, Bryan Simmons wrote:

> Sad for John Kuthe. I'm sure he'd like to be
> a "male guide" for 3rd and 4th grade girls.

I was a mixed Cub Scout (~ 9 to 11 yo) leader
some years ago. One night at the campfire, a
little girl next to me, feeling sleepy I suppose,
snuggled close and put her head down on my shoulder.

Man, was I freaked out! In my own family growing up
we generally were not very close physically.

My first thought was to brush her off, like with
a leech or insect. But I realized that it was part
of the role I would have to put up with, so I just
adjusted my posture a bit to make it less likely
for her to fall into the fire if she did fall asleep.

Then I continued telling ghost stories scary enough
to ensure everyone would be tired the next day in
oder to obviate any plans for a hike so we could
just lounge around on the beach instead.

[Bryan Simmons]

That wasn't on the list for causes of lesbianism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpUQEJbmxi4
Start at 9:00 on the video.

--Bryan

[lucr...@florence.it]

On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 16:44:44 +0000, "cshenk"

I was talking to Ed about the 50s item he pointed to re how women
please men - NOT fucking home ec!!!! Go back and re-read and see if
YOU can get in the game!!

[Bruce]

It's funny how that article, even though posted in jest, presses your
"Women's Lib" buttons and then you forget all about that and side with
Cheating King Chuck.

RFC, For All Your Hypocrisy

[S Viemeister]

On 13/07/2023 20:20, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 14:00:29 -0400, Dave Smith

>> Reproductive organs had better be sturdier these days. How else would
>> they stand up to all the surgical realignment that seems to be the fade
>> these days. I guess people were right back then when they were
>> concerned that if boys took home ec and girls took shop they would be
>> turn into homos.
>
> Narrow-minded bigot strikes again.
>

One of my father's friends was very concerned that I was learning all
sorts of 'manly' skills, like carpentry and electronics. 'She'll never
find a husband', he said. 'It's not womanly', he said. 'She shouldn't be
mowing lawns and shoveling snow', he said.

Hah.

Himself and I have been happily married for decades now, and enjoy
working on things together, whether they're 'manly' or 'womanly'.

[Bruce]

You must have found a man who, back then, was already miles ahead of
Dave Smith.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-07-13, S Viemeister <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
> On 13/07/2023 20:20, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 14:00:29 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> Reproductive organs had better be sturdier these days. How else would
>>> they stand up to all the surgical realignment that seems to be the fade
>>> these days. I guess people were right back then when they were
>>> concerned that if boys took home ec and girls took shop they would be
>>> turn into homos.
>>
>> Narrow-minded bigot strikes again.
>>
> One of my father's friends was very concerned that I was learning all
> sorts of 'manly' skills, like carpentry and electronics. 'She'll never
> find a husband', he said. 'It's not womanly', he said. 'She shouldn't be
> mowing lawns and shoveling snow', he said.

Mowing the lawn is barely different from vacuuming the carpet.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[jmcquown]

Dave, I'm as tired of hearing about the "Alphabet People" as anyone else
but really, those comments were uncalled for.

Jill

[Dave Smith]

I was referring to how to how people felt back then.

[Ed P]

Amazing how people think. We did the same as you, chores were shared,
including shoveling and mowing.

After dinner, it was everyone's job to help clear the table when they
were old enough, but my wife did the rest of the cleanup in the quiet of
being alone while I took the kids out for a bit.

[jmcquown]

True, Carol misunderstood Ed's *facetious* comment about how this 1950's
version being a good housewife should be taught in Home Ec class. The
article wasn't even about Home Ec classes.

Jill

[Ed P]

Thanks for the clarification. Definitely qualifies as woman's work.

[S Viemeister]

He's miles ahead of any man I ever dated, in every way - and I've dated
some rather impressive guys.

[jmcquown]

Perhaps I misunderstood and took it the wrong way. You used the phrase
"these days".

Jill

[S Viemeister]

Yes.
But it's 'womanly'.

The mower I used was an old fashioned push mower, though, and we had
several lawns.
Dad bought me an electric hedge trimmer for my birthday...

[jmcquown]

On 7/13/2023 10:34 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-07-13, Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> On 2023-07-12 7:55 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>>
>>> You misunderstood what it was. Home economics taught basics of cooking
>>> (scratch normally), sewing, food budgeting, food preservation,
>>> gardening, home accounting, making simple utensils (normally food but
>>> often had brooms and picture frames), and other lifeskills based on the
>>> times.
>>>
>>> It morfed as times changed to relevant things to the era. Classes by
>>> 1970 were 1/2 to 40% male, and no, not to 'catch a girl'.
>>
>> Morfed? That would have been more of a sudden change. I went to high
>> school in the 60s and there were no males in home ec classes and there
>> were no females in shop classes. None, not a single one.
>
> Yeah, she must have lived in some liberal paradise.
>
> In 1969-1971 when I was in junior high school, Home Ec was required for
> girls and boys were not allowed to take it. The inverse was true of
> shop classes.
>
> Home Ec was pretty useless. We learned to cook stuff like muffins
> and baked eggs. In sewing, we made aprons (cobbler style). No
> budgeting, food preservation, utensil making, or other life skills.
>

Home Ec was required when I was in the 8th grade, 1972. The problem was
the school was still under construction. The Home Ec classroom
contained only a few rows of long folding tables and chairs. There was
no equipment of any kind. No stoves, no ovens, no sewing machines. At
best it was a glorified study hall and everyone was given a passing
grade. Even if it had been fully equipped, I sincerely doubt it would
have included all this "how to shop" and "budgeting" stuff Carol talks
about. I have no idea if the shop class for boys in that grade in the
still under construction school was better equipped. Don't actually care.

I will say this. When we lived in Bangkok (I was age 9-11) the Thai
language teacher set up tables with faux meats and vegetables, clothing
and toys and she taught us how to go to a market and shop and barter for
better prices in Thai. *That* was a lesson. :)

Jill

[jmcquown]

Not if you have a Roomba! ;) (I don't.)

Jill

[lucr...@florence.it]

On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 21:51:29 +0100, S Viemeister
<firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:

Great! It can be of tantamount importance - when David was no longer
able to mow the grass, take the garbage out and other 'manly' tasks,
at least I could take over smoothly so it was less devastating for
him.

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-07-13, S Viemeister wrote:

> One of my father's friends was very concerned
> that I was learning all sorts of 'manly' skills,
> like carpentry and electronics.

That's good to know. Usually I ask John for
electronics advice because he keeps harping
about his EE degree.

[lucr...@florence.it]

On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 17:55:51 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Except bargaining is not common here though recently I bought a new
cell phone and in time went to a little shop where this guy bought
used phones. His first offer was a joke but something told me he
seemed to be a Hong Konger so I went straight into bargaining and I
finally got a price I found acceptable.

He was laughing then and asked me where I learned to bargain and I
told him, so then we sat down with a coffee until another customer
arrived :)

[Bruce]

Good for you.

[Hank Rogers]

And dutch ass sniffer nailed his rectum pronto!

Have another whiff, MASTER.

[Hank Rogers]

Your highness is so wise, even though you are so young.

Thank you. May I kiss your feet?

[Bruce]

On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 17:39:09 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

He's trying to backpedal, but he made his statement that people were
right back then TODAY.

[Hank Rogers]

Carol is causing your majesty a lot of grief. Your highness
should consider banning her sorry ass.

She has rebelled, and should be punished, or expelled from the
court, your majesty.

[Hank Rogers]

Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 21:51:29 +0100, S Viemeister
> <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>
>> On 13/07/2023 20:20, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 14:00:29 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>> Reproductive organs had better be sturdier these days. How else would
>>>> they stand up to all the surgical realignment that seems to be the fade
>>>> these days. I guess people were right back then when they were
>>>> concerned that if boys took home ec and girls took shop they would be
>>>> turn into homos.
>>>
>>> Narrow-minded bigot strikes again.
>>>
>> One of my father's friends was very concerned that I was learning all
>> sorts of 'manly' skills, like carpentry and electronics. 'She'll never
>> find a husband', he said. 'It's not womanly', he said. 'She shouldn't be
>> mowing lawns and shoveling snow', he said.
>>
>> Hah.
>>
>> Himself and I have been happily married for decades now, and enjoy
>> working on things together, whether they're 'manly' or 'womanly'.
>
> You must have found a man who, back then, was already miles ahead of
> Dave Smith.
>

You've always sniffed officer dave's ass. It must be delectable
to your nostrils.

Why not impersonate dave again? You used to actually be dave,
for a while.

Do you remember, master? Or were you doctor druce at that time?

[Hank Rogers]

You are missing a lot of things that are essential to a
relationship between two people. It's Ok though. Your majesty
will shine on.

[jmcquown]

I do understand, lucretia. My point was Home Ec class I attended is not
what Carol seems to think it Home Ec was in most schools in
1970-whatever. Budgeting? Shopping? Home Ec class was nothing.

> He was laughing then and asked me where I learned to bargain and I
> told him, so then we sat down with a coffee until another customer
> arrived :)

I don't know about bargaining for cell phones.

Jill

[Hank Rogers]

Your majesty should ban his ass

[Hank Rogers]

Not to worry, officer dave. stick your tongue in the queen's
ass. She will forgive you, and restore you to knight of the
realm, and minister of ass-kissing. I salute you sire DAVE!

[lucr...@florence.it]

On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 19:09:01 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>

One can bargain for anything, I thought you meant your teacher had
taught you that. In the far east, generally a sale is not considered
too interesting unless a little bargaining has taken place.

[Hank Rogers]

He did not realize that your majesties hymen is perfectly
intact. You are a Virgin queen, your highness.

Forgive dave, please.

[Hank Rogers]

I bet bang cock was a wonderful experience for your majesty.

Lot's of tai dicks to choose from.

[Bryan Simmons]

Dave Smith misses the good old days, when cops could
beat up homos with their nightsticks.

--Bryan

[jmcquown]

I said the teacher taught us how to bargain at the food market.

Jill

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2023-07-13, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Not if you have a Roomba! ;) (I don't.)

We have a Shark. When we run it, it's everywhere we want to step. I
suppose we could plan better.

leo

[Hank Rogers]

Master, you may now sniff jill's perineum.

Let me know when you are in position, and I will pull her finger.

[Hank Rogers]

Field trips to publix or kroger?

[Hank Rogers]

I think they still do, just not allowed to kill them, same as
negroes.

[Bruce]

On 14 Jul 2023 01:51:29 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell

Can you let it go at night or does it make too much noise?

[Leonard Blaisdell]

We probably could. We just have to make sure that stuff that it hangs up
on are stowed properly. We seldom do that. We could do better.
Our problems are ours and not the Shark's.
It does bump into things, like bedposts, more than once.
Overall, we like it.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-07-13, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:

Or one of these:

https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-robot-lawn-mowers

I might need more than one of them. I can't be bothered to do
the arithmetic.

For that price, my lawn tractor is more useful, since I can pull
a trailer or leaf sweeper with it.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Thomas]

My mom passed away a bit ago. At the funeral home going through the caskets, I said "this one is nice. Knock 300 off and I'll take it."
Sold.

[lucr...@florence.it]

On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 16:48:26 -0700 (PDT), Thomas <cano...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Expect it seemed nice at a bad time.

[cshenk]

lucr...@florence.it wrote:


> > Lucretia, it changed. It's not that old times 50's crap at all.
> > The true 'home ec' is long gone. What 'whooshed' over your head is
> > I disagree that it never served a purpose or that limited sexist
> > review was likely very slanted but culture was 'male dominated'.
> > It changed.
>
> I was talking to Ed about the 50s item he pointed to re how women
> please men - NOT fucking home ec!!!! Go back and re-read and see if
> YOU can get in the game!!

It's called thread drift. If YOU go back and read it again, you can
clearly see I was addressing ONLY the part on home ec.

[cshenk]

Bruce wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 17:26:35 -0300, lucr...@florence.it wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 16:44:44 +0000, "cshenk"
> ><csh...@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
> >
> > > lucr...@florence.it wrote:
> > >
> >>> Nope, I think as usual the message has passed over your head!
> > >

> > > Lucretia, it changed. It's not that old times 50's crap at all.
> > > The true 'home ec' is long gone. What 'whooshed' over your head
> > > is I disagree that it never served a purpose or that limited
> > > sexist review was likely very slanted but culture was 'male
> > > dominated'. It changed.
> >
> > I was talking to Ed about the 50s item he pointed to re how women
> > please men - NOT fucking home ec!!!! Go back and re-read and see if
> > YOU can get in the game!!
>

> It's funny how that article, even though posted in jest, presses your
> "Women's Lib" buttons and then you forget all about that and side with
> Cheating King Chuck.
>
> RFC, For All Your Hypocrisy

Thread drift. I spoke only to the home ec piece.

[lucr...@florence.it]

Which I HAD NOT commented on!!

[cshenk]

S Viemeister wrote:

> On 13/07/2023 20:20, Bruce wrote:
> > On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 14:00:29 -0400, Dave Smith
> > > Reproductive organs had better be sturdier these days. How else
> > > would they stand up to all the surgical realignment that seems to
> > > be the fade these days. I guess people were right back then when
> > > they were concerned that if boys took home ec and girls took shop
> > > they would be turn into homos.
> >
> > Narrow-minded bigot strikes again.
> >
> One of my father's friends was very concerned that I was learning all
> sorts of 'manly' skills, like carpentry and electronics. 'She'll
> never find a husband', he said. 'It's not womanly', he said. 'She
> shouldn't be mowing lawns and shoveling snow', he said.
>

> Hah.
>
> Himself and I have been happily married for decades now, and enjoy
> working on things together, whether they're 'manly' or 'womanly'.

Sounds like me and Don. I taught him furniture repair and basic
carpentry. That and making fishing lures are his main hobbies. He
cooks about 40% of the meals.

[cshenk]

> and barter for better prices in Thai. That was a lesson. :)
>
> Jill

My Mom had home ec and learned to cook, sew and budget. She got basic
nutrition (for the times).

[jmcquown]

Ed was referring to the 1955 housewife guide
https://tinyurl.com/yckk88e7
and JOKING that it should be taught in home ec.

Jill

[cshenk]

> > > market and shop and barter for better prices in Thai. That was a

> > > lesson. :)
> > >
> > > Jill
> >
> > Except bargaining is not common here though recently I bought a new
> > cell phone and in time went to a little shop where this guy bought
> > used phones. His first offer was a joke but something told me he
> > seemed to be a Hong Konger so I went straight into bargaining and I
> > finally got a price I found acceptable.
> >
> I do understand, lucretia. My point was Home Ec class I attended is
> not what Carol seems to think it Home Ec was in most schools in
> 1970-whatever. Budgeting? Shopping? Home Ec class was nothing.
>
> > He was laughing then and asked me where I learned to bargain and I
> > told him, so then we sat down with a coffee until another customer
> > arrived :)
>
> I don't know about bargaining for cell phones.
>
> Jill

Sorry Jill, I should have added time qualifiers to it all. Didn't mean
to be confusing, honestly. When Charlotte got cooking (no home ec
then), she also got food shopping and budgeting with 2 field trips.

Midterm final was make breakfast for 4 for 8$. No boxed or instant
cereals, must have 1 meat other than eggs, 1 fruit (may be juice but
must be at least 90% fruit) and 1 grain.

Final was make dinner for 4 for 10$. Must have a meat or seafood, a
grain (allowed to buy or make grain at home and include for use), 2
vegetables, and a fruit. Must show wise use of bulk buying and show
either wise plammed use of leftovers or long storing bulk products.
Must show elements of scratch cooking.

Charlotte as you might guess, got straight A's.

[jmcquown]

Field trips? The only school field trips I went on were to historical
sites such as Mt. Vernon, Monticello and the Smithsonian.

> Midterm final was make breakfast for 4 for 8$. No boxed or instant
> cereals, must have 1 meat other than eggs, 1 fruit (may be juice but
> must be at least 90% fruit) and 1 grain.
>

Never heard of a class like that in any of the schools I attended.

> Final was make dinner for 4 for 10$. Must have a meat or seafood, a
> grain (allowed to buy or make grain at home and include for use), 2
> vegetables, and a fruit. Must show wise use of bulk buying and show
> either wise plammed use of leftovers or long storing bulk products.
> Must show elements of scratch cooking.
>
> Charlotte as you might guess, got straight A's.

That would be a pure guess on my part. I never had any sort of home ec
class such as you describe. I don't think my mother did, either, in the
1940's. Ed was joking about the 1955 housewife (Leave it to Beaver)
lifestyle being incorporated into home-ec classes.

Jill

[Bruce]

Sure, but I was commenting on Lucretia's double standards.

[cshenk]

lucr...@florence.it wrote:

> >> Except bargaining is not common here though recently I bought a new
> >> cell phone and in time went to a little shop where this guy bought
> >> used phones. His first offer was a joke but something told me he
> >> seemed to be a Hong Konger so I went straight into bargaining and I
> >> finally got a price I found acceptable.
> >>
> > I do understand, lucretia. My point was Home Ec class I attended
> > is not what Carol seems to think it Home Ec was in most schools in
> > 1970-whatever. Budgeting? Shopping? Home Ec class was nothing.
> >
> >> He was laughing then and asked me where I learned to bargain and I
> >> told him, so then we sat down with a coffee until another customer
> >> arrived :)

Grin, on bargaining, I learned it at yardsales and 'swap meets' (may be
a local term, like a mass yardsale where you rent a spot for the day
with or without table and sell stuff). I fine tuned in Korea and Hong
Kong.

On the Home Ec, I apologize for accidental confusion. I was not
referring to a specific time. I never, for example lived anyplace where
it was mandatory. I think one of us said it was mandatory when they
were growing up at their location and time?

Home Ec simply 'changed with local times and places'.

[cshenk]

jmcquown wrote:

>
> I said the teacher taught us how to bargain at the food market.
>
> Jill

Um Jill? Did you mean 'get a bargain'?

[jmcquown]

No, I meant bargaining as in talk the people at the markets down in
price. No one paid what the vendors at the food stalls were quoting.
Five baht? Nope, 1 baht. Settled on 3 baht. It did teach us how to
budget even though that is not the way shopping is done in North
America, except perhaps at some small farm stands.

Jill

[Bruce]

Are you still going on about that? Your life must be very boring

[bruce bowser]

Wives then and now must hate catering to those drunks, huh?

[cshenk]

Hank Rogers wrote:

>
> Field trips to publix or kroger?

Hi Hank, pretty sure I was the only one to mention field trip to a food
store. For Charlotte, it was Farm Fresh because they had a big lot so
a bus was not a problem. It was only 2.5 miles from the school she was
at.

[K.Wills]

In article <c7c719be-342c-469e...@googlegroups.com>, meator...@gmail.com says...

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[Hank Rogers]

I bet you face a LOT of double standards. Poor master.