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Dave Smith
Jul 6, 2020, 5:48:48 PM7/6/20
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If it on the internet it has to be true. If it is one FaceBook it
definitely has to be true. This afternoon I was scanning through FB and
came across a post shared by a friend. It had a photo of a ginormous
throng of people on a beach, probably over 100,000 people and all very
close together, no social distancing at all and captioned with:
People will never listen! Covid is never going away!
This is the beach today in Raleigh, North Carolina
Share this!
I am embarrassed for my friend that he shared it. I am not an expert on
American geography, but I was pretty sure there is no beach in Raleigh
NC. I really didn't need to Google it, but I did, and I saw that it is
even further from the ocean that I had thought. Apparently, it is 131
miles from Raleigh NC to the closest beach. The really sad thing is that
self righteous dinks who are disparaging the people of North Carolina
as a bunch of careless jerks who are blind to the danger of the pandemic
and they are too fucking stupid not to spot the obvious fallacy of the
image.
definitely has to be true. This afternoon I was scanning through FB and
came across a post shared by a friend. It had a photo of a ginormous
throng of people on a beach, probably over 100,000 people and all very
close together, no social distancing at all and captioned with:
People will never listen! Covid is never going away!
This is the beach today in Raleigh, North Carolina
Share this!
I am embarrassed for my friend that he shared it. I am not an expert on
American geography, but I was pretty sure there is no beach in Raleigh
NC. I really didn't need to Google it, but I did, and I saw that it is
even further from the ocean that I had thought. Apparently, it is 131
miles from Raleigh NC to the closest beach. The really sad thing is that
self righteous dinks who are disparaging the people of North Carolina
as a bunch of careless jerks who are blind to the danger of the pandemic
and they are too fucking stupid not to spot the obvious fallacy of the
image.
Jeßus
Jul 6, 2020, 8:25:52 PM7/6/20
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killing the virus, which may explain why many countries have had
relatively fewer problems with it. Of course, there's also
contradictory advice about this, like every single other bit of advice
with this circus. Anyway, a day at the beach may not be such a bad
thing after all.
itsjoan...@webtv.net
Jul 6, 2020, 8:48:48 PM7/6/20
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On Monday, July 6, 2020 at 4:48:48 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> I am embarrassed for my friend that he shared it. I am not an expert on
> American geography, but I was pretty sure there is no beach in Raleigh
> NC. I really didn't need to Google it, but I did, and I saw that it is
> even further from the ocean that I had thought. Apparently, it is 131
> miles from Raleigh NC to the closest beach.
>
I sure hope you went ahead and pointed out to your friend the distance
>
> I am embarrassed for my friend that he shared it. I am not an expert on
> American geography, but I was pretty sure there is no beach in Raleigh
> NC. I really didn't need to Google it, but I did, and I saw that it is
> even further from the ocean that I had thought. Apparently, it is 131
> miles from Raleigh NC to the closest beach.
>
from Raleigh to the ocean.
Dave Smith
Jul 6, 2020, 9:33:01 PM7/6/20
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On 2020-07-06 8:25 p.m., Je�us wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 17:49:31 -0400, Dave Smith
> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> If it on the internet it has to be true. If it is one FaceBook it
>> definitely has to be true. This afternoon I was scanning through FB and
>> came across a post shared by a friend. It had a photo of a ginormous
>> throng of people on a beach, probably over 100,000 people and all very
>> close together, no social distancing at all and captioned with:
>>
>> People will never listen! Covid is never going away!
>>
>> This is the beach today in Raleigh, North Carolina
>>
>> Share this!
>>
>>
>> I am embarrassed for my friend that he shared it. I am not an expert on
>> American geography, but I was pretty sure there is no beach in Raleigh
>> NC. I really didn't need to Google it, but I did, and I saw that it is
>> even further from the ocean that I had thought. Apparently, it is 131
>> miles from Raleigh NC to the closest beach. The really sad thing is that
>> self righteous dinks who are disparaging the people of North Carolina
>> as a bunch of careless jerks who are blind to the danger of the pandemic
>> and they are too fucking stupid not to spot the obvious fallacy of the
>> image.
>
> Apart from all that, it seems that sunlight is very effective in
> killing the virus, which may explain why many countries have had
> relatively fewer problems with it.
That could possibly be, but my point was about the bullshit about the
> On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 17:49:31 -0400, Dave Smith
> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> If it on the internet it has to be true. If it is one FaceBook it
>> definitely has to be true. This afternoon I was scanning through FB and
>> came across a post shared by a friend. It had a photo of a ginormous
>> throng of people on a beach, probably over 100,000 people and all very
>> close together, no social distancing at all and captioned with:
>>
>> People will never listen! Covid is never going away!
>>
>> This is the beach today in Raleigh, North Carolina
>>
>> Share this!
>>
>>
>> I am embarrassed for my friend that he shared it. I am not an expert on
>> American geography, but I was pretty sure there is no beach in Raleigh
>> NC. I really didn't need to Google it, but I did, and I saw that it is
>> even further from the ocean that I had thought. Apparently, it is 131
>> miles from Raleigh NC to the closest beach. The really sad thing is that
>> self righteous dinks who are disparaging the people of North Carolina
>> as a bunch of careless jerks who are blind to the danger of the pandemic
>> and they are too fucking stupid not to spot the obvious fallacy of the
>> image.
>
> Apart from all that, it seems that sunlight is very effective in
> killing the virus, which may explain why many countries have had
> relatively fewer problems with it.
the photo being one of the Raleigh NC beach when there is no Raleigh
beach. The city is 130 miles from the closest beach.
> Of course, there's also
> contradictory advice about this, like every single other bit of advice
> with this circus. Anyway, a day at the beach may not be such a bad
> thing after all.
when inside public buildings and were social distancing cannot be
maintained. One woman commented about how negligent people would be not
to wear mask "given all we know", and I had to question that because we
only know what they tell us, and that seems to change just about every
day. They certainly bounced back and forth on the value of wearing masks.
cshenk
Jul 6, 2020, 9:59:10 PM7/6/20
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Sqwertz
Jul 7, 2020, 12:35:09 AM7/7/20
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On Tue, 07 Jul 2020 10:25:43 +1000, Je₭us wrote:
> Apart from all that, it seems that sunlight is very effective in
> killing the virus, which may explain why many countries have had
> relatively fewer problems with it. Of course, there's also
> contradictory advice about this, like every single other bit of advice
> with this circus. Anyway, a day at the beach may not be such a bad
> thing after all.
But notice that the states in which the virus is thriving are also
> Apart from all that, it seems that sunlight is very effective in
> killing the virus, which may explain why many countries have had
> relatively fewer problems with it. Of course, there's also
> contradictory advice about this, like every single other bit of advice
> with this circus. Anyway, a day at the beach may not be such a bad
> thing after all.
the hottest states in the US - Texas, Arizona, Florida, Nevada, and
California.
I'm seeing a pattern here...
OTOH, since we do have the hottest weather, maybe were staying
indoors in the A/C too much.
Which is it? <shrug>
-sw
Hank Rogers
Jul 7, 2020, 12:46:43 AM7/7/20
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Sqwertz wrote:
Lots of christians in those states. Maybe god is mad at them?
jmcquown
Jul 7, 2020, 3:38:47 AM7/7/20
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when out in public. Stores won't let you inside if you aren't wearing
one. Good! I say it's about damn time people start taking this virus
seriously.
Jill
jmcquown
Jul 7, 2020, 3:45:35 AM7/7/20
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talking about in your local news not long ago? Imagine that! ;)
Jill
Gary
Jul 7, 2020, 7:39:20 AM7/7/20
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video from the year before on Memorial Weekend. Even funnier
was the Governor of Virginia shown in them talking to large
crowds at the beach without wearing a mask.
Obviously fake as the weather was not from this year. A few
days later, the newspaper "letters to the editor" section
was full of people MAD at the Governor not wearing a mask
He got yelled at for "fake news" funny
Gary
Jul 7, 2020, 7:40:00 AM7/7/20
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jmcquown wrote:
>
> Masks are now MANDATORY in the county where I live (effective July 4th)
> when out in public. Stores won't let you inside if you aren't wearing
> one. Good! I say it's about damn time people start taking this virus
> seriously.
Been mandatory in Virginia for a few months now and I like
>
> Masks are now MANDATORY in the county where I live (effective July 4th)
> when out in public. Stores won't let you inside if you aren't wearing
> one. Good! I say it's about damn time people start taking this virus
> seriously.
the idea. Problem is, not many people wear one anyway.
These people that refuse to wear one are pretty dumb, imo.
Why not? Every little bit might help.
And NOW, the "experts" are claiming it might be airborne
and suggest opening your windows. heheh Hello? I've been
doing that for years to flush out old air inside.
Bruce
Jul 7, 2020, 7:46:55 AM7/7/20
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your dwelling? If so, you spread them yourself, so opening the windows
is like closing the barn after the horses got out.
songbird
Jul 7, 2020, 7:49:35 AM7/7/20
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jmcquown wrote:
...
number of people still don't wear them or don't
wear them correctly.
outside i normally would not wear one because
i'm not around anyone else out in the gardens
anyways.
yesterday i was running errands in town and
it was easier to just leave it on between the
places.
songbird
...
> Masks are now MANDATORY in the county where I live (effective July 4th)
> when out in public. Stores won't let you inside if you aren't wearing
> one. Good! I say it's about damn time people start taking this virus
> seriously.
masks are required in enclosed spaces. a
> when out in public. Stores won't let you inside if you aren't wearing
> one. Good! I say it's about damn time people start taking this virus
> seriously.
number of people still don't wear them or don't
wear them correctly.
outside i normally would not wear one because
i'm not around anyone else out in the gardens
anyways.
yesterday i was running errands in town and
it was easier to just leave it on between the
places.
songbird
Dave Smith
Jul 7, 2020, 8:06:20 AM7/7/20
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municipalities. It is not yet law.
I had a run in with a crazy old lady last week as I headed into a local
grocery store. The suggestion has been to wear one if you cannot social
distance. I prefer to keep the distance.
This stupid old lady came out of the store with a mask on and headed
directly toward me and stopped right in front of me and stopped about 2
feet from me. The she pulled down her mask, gave me a stupid smile and
started into her speech about how she was wearing a mask to protect me
and I should wear one to protect myself and other people. I snapped and
told her she was fucking nuts to take off her mask and get in my face
instead of keeping distance between us. Self righteous old twit.
Gary
Jul 7, 2020, 10:21:21 AM7/7/20
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Dave. It won't kill you to take that bit of protection yet it
might kill you NOT to wear one.
Lucretia Borgia
Jul 7, 2020, 10:26:47 AM7/7/20
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Dave Smith
Jul 7, 2020, 10:40:15 AM7/7/20
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On 2020-07-07 10:21 a.m., Gary wrote:
masks for months now. There is no hard data to show that they help, and
the top people, including our federal chief medical officer has gone
back and forth on the issue many times.
The thing about this old lady was the combination of self righteousness
and hypocrisy. She came on to me about how she was wearing her mask to
protect me...... but then she had taken it off and invaded my space to
get into my face about how what I was doing was wrong. As I said, the
deal around here is that it is a good idea to wear a mask if you cannot
social distance. I was socially distancing. I had even taken a
circuitous route to avoid others, and then she walked right up to me and
decided she should give me a lecture. Given my reaction, she will likely
think twice about that in the future.
> Dave Smith wrote:
>> This stupid old lady came out of the store with a mask on and headed
>> directly toward me and stopped right in front of me and stopped about 2
>> feet from me. The she pulled down her mask, gave me a stupid smile and
>> started into her speech about how she was wearing a mask to protect me
>> and I should wear one to protect myself and other people. I snapped and
>> told her she was fucking nuts to take off her mask and get in my face
>> instead of keeping distance between us. Self righteous old twit.
>
> You should just wear one when inside stores or around others,
> Dave. It won't kill you to take that bit of protection yet it
> might kill you NOT to wear one.
>
Might. We have been getting conflicting messages about the value of
>> This stupid old lady came out of the store with a mask on and headed
>> directly toward me and stopped right in front of me and stopped about 2
>> feet from me. The she pulled down her mask, gave me a stupid smile and
>> started into her speech about how she was wearing a mask to protect me
>> and I should wear one to protect myself and other people. I snapped and
>> told her she was fucking nuts to take off her mask and get in my face
>> instead of keeping distance between us. Self righteous old twit.
>
> You should just wear one when inside stores or around others,
> Dave. It won't kill you to take that bit of protection yet it
> might kill you NOT to wear one.
>
masks for months now. There is no hard data to show that they help, and
the top people, including our federal chief medical officer has gone
back and forth on the issue many times.
The thing about this old lady was the combination of self righteousness
and hypocrisy. She came on to me about how she was wearing her mask to
protect me...... but then she had taken it off and invaded my space to
get into my face about how what I was doing was wrong. As I said, the
deal around here is that it is a good idea to wear a mask if you cannot
social distance. I was socially distancing. I had even taken a
circuitous route to avoid others, and then she walked right up to me and
decided she should give me a lecture. Given my reaction, she will likely
think twice about that in the future.
Dave Smith
Jul 7, 2020, 10:42:57 AM7/7/20
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be wearing a mask to protect me..... except that she has violated my
intentional and conscientious social distance, walked right up to me and
then took off her mask to give me a lecture. That was complete self
righteous idiocy.
itsjoan...@webtv.net
Jul 7, 2020, 2:37:37 PM7/7/20
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On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 9:21:21 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
exceptions. COPD, asthma, etc.
>
> Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > > jmcquown wrote:
> > > ...
> > >> Masks are now MANDATORY in the county where I live (effective July 4th)
> > >> when out in public. Stores won't let you inside if you aren't wearing
> > >> one. Good! I say it's about damn time people start taking this virus
> > >> seriously.
> > >
> Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > > jmcquown wrote:
> > > ...
> > >> Masks are now MANDATORY in the county where I live (effective July 4th)
> > >> when out in public. Stores won't let you inside if you aren't wearing
> > >> one. Good! I say it's about damn time people start taking this virus
> > >> seriously.
> > >
> You should just wear one when inside stores or around others,
> Dave. It won't kill you to take that bit of protection yet it
> might kill you NOT to wear one.
>
Dumbass mayor here has mandated masks for everyone now with many
> Dave. It won't kill you to take that bit of protection yet it
> might kill you NOT to wear one.
>
exceptions. COPD, asthma, etc.
Hank Rogers
Jul 7, 2020, 3:25:02 PM7/7/20
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ain't afraid to show weakness now.
Sheldon Martin
Jul 7, 2020, 3:26:50 PM7/7/20
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On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 "tsjoannotjoann wrote:
I have COPD and wearing a mask has no effect on my breathing, I just
find masks itchy... and now they don't fog my glasses as after
cataract surgery I no longer wear glasses... amazing... I should have
had this surgery years ago.... I now have Superman vision, I can see
right though yoose ladies undies.... I think Joann is due for a trim.
LOL
find masks itchy... and now they don't fog my glasses as after
cataract surgery I no longer wear glasses... amazing... I should have
had this surgery years ago.... I now have Superman vision, I can see
right though yoose ladies undies.... I think Joann is due for a trim.
LOL
Bruce
Jul 7, 2020, 3:54:18 PM7/7/20
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itsjoan...@webtv.net
Jul 7, 2020, 3:55:13 PM7/7/20
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On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 2:26:50 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 "tsjoannotjoann wrote:
> >
> >Dumbass mayor here has mandated masks for everyone now with many
> >exceptions. COPD, asthma, etc.
>
> I have COPD and wearing a mask has no effect on my breathing, I just
> find masks itchy... and now they don't fog my glasses as after
> cataract surgery I no longer wear glasses... amazing... I should have
> had this surgery years ago.
>
Well, I'm still considered four-eyes so I just stumble around in a haze
>
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 "tsjoannotjoann wrote:
> >
> >Dumbass mayor here has mandated masks for everyone now with many
> >exceptions. COPD, asthma, etc.
>
> I have COPD and wearing a mask has no effect on my breathing, I just
> find masks itchy... and now they don't fog my glasses as after
> cataract surgery I no longer wear glasses... amazing... I should have
> had this surgery years ago.
>
when I wear the annoying thing. I have taken to pulling it down under
my nose though.
Bruce
Jul 7, 2020, 3:55:14 PM7/7/20
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Hank Rogers
Jul 7, 2020, 4:08:51 PM7/7/20
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Hank Rogers
Jul 7, 2020, 4:10:17 PM7/7/20
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Dave Smith
Jul 7, 2020, 4:16:41 PM7/7/20
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next week. I have a hard time finding masks that fit so I will stick
with a bandana. I am going to be pissed if I have to wear a mask and
people are walking around with their masks pulled down below their nose
or if they keep handling their masks and then touching common objects,
since that defeats the purpose.
Bruce
Jul 7, 2020, 4:17:58 PM7/7/20
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On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 16:17:25 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>On 2020-07-07 3:55 p.m., itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 2:26:50 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>
>>
>>> I have COPD and wearing a mask has no effect on my breathing, I just
>>> find masks itchy... and now they don't fog my glasses as after
>>> cataract surgery I no longer wear glasses... amazing... I should have
>>> had this surgery years ago.
>>>
>> Well, I'm still considered four-eyes so I just stumble around in a haze
>> when I wear the annoying thing. I have taken to pulling it down under
>> my nose though.
>>
>
>It is starting to look like we will have mandatory masks here within the
>next week. I have a hard time finding masks that fit so I will stick
>with a bandana.
Maybe use a bed sheet.
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>On 2020-07-07 3:55 p.m., itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 2:26:50 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>
>>
>>> I have COPD and wearing a mask has no effect on my breathing, I just
>>> find masks itchy... and now they don't fog my glasses as after
>>> cataract surgery I no longer wear glasses... amazing... I should have
>>> had this surgery years ago.
>>>
>> Well, I'm still considered four-eyes so I just stumble around in a haze
>> when I wear the annoying thing. I have taken to pulling it down under
>> my nose though.
>>
>
>It is starting to look like we will have mandatory masks here within the
>next week. I have a hard time finding masks that fit so I will stick
>with a bandana.
itsjoan...@webtv.net
Jul 7, 2020, 4:59:59 PM7/7/20
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On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 3:10:17 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
I can't see them through my fogged up glasses.
>
> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> >
> > Well, I'm still considered four-eyes so I just stumble around in a haze
> > when I wear the annoying thing. I have taken to pulling it down under
> > my nose though.
> >
>
> Isn't that the same as not wearing it?
>
Could be. It's either pull it down under my nose or mow people down since
> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> >
> > Well, I'm still considered four-eyes so I just stumble around in a haze
> > when I wear the annoying thing. I have taken to pulling it down under
> > my nose though.
> >
>
> Isn't that the same as not wearing it?
>
I can't see them through my fogged up glasses.
itsjoan...@webtv.net
Jul 7, 2020, 5:00:18 PM7/7/20
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advocated a march of 10,000+ people just when things were barely starting
to get better. You think everybody in those marching, looting, vandalizing
crowds were wearing masks? You think those people were automatically protected from the person standing shoulder to shoulder in those crowds because they
were wearing a mask??
I've got some lovely oceanfront property you'd be interested in located in
Alice Springs. Better hurry up and make me an offer before all the surfers
snap it up. Of course, it has lovely ocean breezes.
Bruce
Jul 7, 2020, 5:03:34 PM7/7/20
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On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 14:00:14 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
And is disappointed when only a few people show up. he also refuses to
wear a face mask. His brother in arms, Bolsonaro of Brazil, now has
covid.
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 2:55:14 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 11:37:33 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Dumbass mayor here has mandated masks for everyone now with many
>> >exceptions. COPD, asthma, etc.
>>
>> Your mayor seems to be taking it more seriously than your president.
>>
>Baloney. If he was sooooo serious the shit-for-brains mayor would not have
>advocated a march of 10,000+ people just when things were barely starting
>to get better. You think everybody in those marching, looting, vandalizing
>crowds were wearing masks? You think those people were automatically protected from the person standing shoulder to shoulder in those crowds because they
>were wearing a mask??
Yes, that was stupid, but your president organises mass meetings too.
>On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 2:55:14 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 11:37:33 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Dumbass mayor here has mandated masks for everyone now with many
>> >exceptions. COPD, asthma, etc.
>>
>> Your mayor seems to be taking it more seriously than your president.
>>
>Baloney. If he was sooooo serious the shit-for-brains mayor would not have
>advocated a march of 10,000+ people just when things were barely starting
>to get better. You think everybody in those marching, looting, vandalizing
>crowds were wearing masks? You think those people were automatically protected from the person standing shoulder to shoulder in those crowds because they
>were wearing a mask??
And is disappointed when only a few people show up. he also refuses to
wear a face mask. His brother in arms, Bolsonaro of Brazil, now has
covid.
Hank Rogers
Jul 7, 2020, 5:11:54 PM7/7/20
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Hank Rogers
Jul 7, 2020, 5:13:42 PM7/7/20
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Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 14:00:14 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 2:55:14 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 11:37:33 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dumbass mayor here has mandated masks for everyone now with many
>>>> exceptions. COPD, asthma, etc.
>>>
>>> Your mayor seems to be taking it more seriously than your president.
>>>
>> Baloney. If he was sooooo serious the shit-for-brains mayor would not have
>> advocated a march of 10,000+ people just when things were barely starting
>> to get better. You think everybody in those marching, looting, vandalizing
>> crowds were wearing masks? You think those people were automatically protected from the person standing shoulder to shoulder in those crowds because they
>> were wearing a mask??
>
> Yes, that was stupid, but your president organises mass meetings too.
> And is disappointed when only a few people show up. he also refuses to
> wear a face mask. His brother in arms, Bolsonaro of Brazil, now has
> covid.
>
According to Drumpf, covid infection is a very minor ailment.
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 14:00:14 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 2:55:14 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 11:37:33 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dumbass mayor here has mandated masks for everyone now with many
>>>> exceptions. COPD, asthma, etc.
>>>
>>> Your mayor seems to be taking it more seriously than your president.
>>>
>> Baloney. If he was sooooo serious the shit-for-brains mayor would not have
>> advocated a march of 10,000+ people just when things were barely starting
>> to get better. You think everybody in those marching, looting, vandalizing
>> crowds were wearing masks? You think those people were automatically protected from the person standing shoulder to shoulder in those crowds because they
>> were wearing a mask??
>
> Yes, that was stupid, but your president organises mass meetings too.
> And is disappointed when only a few people show up. he also refuses to
> wear a face mask. His brother in arms, Bolsonaro of Brazil, now has
> covid.
>
itsjoan...@webtv.net
Jul 7, 2020, 5:22:48 PM7/7/20
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On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 4:13:42 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
town over a dead thug.
>
> Bruce wrote:
> >
> > Yes, that was stupid, but your president organises mass meetings too.
> > And is disappointed when only a few people show up. he also refuses to
> > wear a face mask. His brother in arms, Bolsonaro of Brazil, now has
> > covid.
> >
>
> According to Drumpf, covid infection is a very minor ailment.
>
Evidently our dipshit mayor thought it was, too. All this setback in
> Bruce wrote:
> >
> > Yes, that was stupid, but your president organises mass meetings too.
> > And is disappointed when only a few people show up. he also refuses to
> > wear a face mask. His brother in arms, Bolsonaro of Brazil, now has
> > covid.
> >
>
> According to Drumpf, covid infection is a very minor ailment.
>
town over a dead thug.
Bruce
Jul 7, 2020, 5:24:54 PM7/7/20
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police man committed a murder. But this is not the time for mass
demonstrations or mass anything.
jmcquown
Jul 7, 2020, 6:07:51 PM7/7/20
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the mask on. (You should be wearing one, though.)
Jill
jmcquown
Jul 7, 2020, 6:15:12 PM7/7/20
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difficult with a mask. I don't mind wearing a mask; the thing about the
mask that bugs me is my glasses keep fogging up. :(
Jill
jmcquown
Jul 7, 2020, 6:23:43 PM7/7/20
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On 7/7/2020 3:26 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 "tsjoannotjoann wrote:
>> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 Gary wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Masks are now MANDATORY in the county where I live (effective July 4th)
>>>>>> when out in public. Stores won't let you inside if you aren't wearing
>>>>>> one. Good! I say it's about damn time people start taking this virus
>>>>>> seriously.
>>>>>
>>> You should just wear one when inside stores or around others,
>>> Dave. It won't kill you to take that bit of protection yet it
>>> might kill you NOT to wear one.
>>>
>> Dumbass mayor here has mandated masks for everyone now with many
>> exceptions. COPD, asthma, etc.
>
> I have COPD and wearing a mask has no effect on my breathing, I just
> find masks itchy... and now they don't fog my glasses as after
> cataract surgery I no longer wear glasses... amazing... I should have
> had this surgery years ago....
It is amazing, isn't it? I've mentioned my Aunt who had been legally
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 "tsjoannotjoann wrote:
>> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 Gary wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Masks are now MANDATORY in the county where I live (effective July 4th)
>>>>>> when out in public. Stores won't let you inside if you aren't wearing
>>>>>> one. Good! I say it's about damn time people start taking this virus
>>>>>> seriously.
>>>>>
>>> You should just wear one when inside stores or around others,
>>> Dave. It won't kill you to take that bit of protection yet it
>>> might kill you NOT to wear one.
>>>
>> Dumbass mayor here has mandated masks for everyone now with many
>> exceptions. COPD, asthma, etc.
>
> I have COPD and wearing a mask has no effect on my breathing, I just
> find masks itchy... and now they don't fog my glasses as after
> cataract surgery I no longer wear glasses... amazing... I should have
> had this surgery years ago....
blind (not to be confused with totally blind) for years due to juvenile
onset diabetes. She had many recurrences of cataracts over the years.
The last time she was told she needed cataract surgery she balked. She
told the doctor she was tired of having eye surgery. This was when
lasic was still a fairly new procedure. The doctor said, "You don't
understand, I think I can really help you!" Her friend talked her into
the surgery. She called me on the phone afterwards, absolutely
thrilled. "Jill! I can SEE! And your Uncle was a liar... he always
said I was beautiful." LOL Sadly, she only got to enjoy her newfound
eyesight briefly. She died of a heart attack six months later. :(
Jill
jmcquown
Jul 7, 2020, 6:28:51 PM7/7/20
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store. I take if off when I'm back in the car and heading home. Yes,
the eyeglass fogging thing is annoying as hell. Today it was pouring
down rain on top of everything else. 'Tis the rainy season here. It's
hard enough to see in a downpour, especially when there are idiots
driving grey or dark cars who don't bother to follow the law and turn on
their headlights. I'm not going to wear a mask in my car and double the
chances of not seeing a car because my glasses are fogged up.
Jill
Dave Smith
Jul 7, 2020, 6:33:31 PM7/7/20
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thing is that around here the suggestion has been that you should wear a
mask if you cannot maintain social distance. I was distancing myself,
but then she came up to me, way inside the 6 feet self distancing zone
and pulled her mask down.... to tell me that I should wear one.
Bruce
Jul 7, 2020, 6:42:27 PM7/7/20
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older ones. Of course, Australia has had 106 covid deaths and the US
130,000.
jmcquown
Jul 7, 2020, 7:25:17 PM7/7/20
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mask. That woman defeated the purpose by pulling down her mask.
Jill
Leo
Jul 7, 2020, 10:29:03 PM7/7/20
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On 2020 Jul 7, , Bruce wrote
(in article<6vp9gfdi4erh64g8h...@4ax.com>):
> I agree. I'm sure there is a lot of racism all over the world and this
> police man committed a murder. But this is not the time for mass
> demonstrations or mass anything.
Once in a while, you make sense. Stop it!
(in article<6vp9gfdi4erh64g8h...@4ax.com>):
> I agree. I'm sure there is a lot of racism all over the world and this
> police man committed a murder. But this is not the time for mass
> demonstrations or mass anything.
Bruce
Jul 7, 2020, 10:33:13 PM7/7/20
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itsjoan...@webtv.net
Jul 7, 2020, 10:36:01 PM7/7/20
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how to make a disposable mask using a paper towel, staples, and rubber bands.
I tried it today and pretty comfortable and minimal fogging.
Hank Rogers
Jul 7, 2020, 11:14:55 PM7/7/20
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best for me. Only occasional slight bit of fogging at the bottom of
my glasses if worn a very long time under certain conditions.
I guess it somewhat depends on many conditions, including the shape
of a persons face. Cold air conditioning also will make your
glasses colder, so cause condensation when warm moist air from the
mask hits it.
I hate wearing these damn things, but it's the best thing to do,
even if not forced to.
itsjoan...@webtv.net
Jul 8, 2020, 1:02:41 AM7/8/20
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On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 10:14:55 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>
> The n95 masks with a metal band you can form over the nose work
> best for me. Only occasional slight bit of fogging at the bottom of
> my glasses if worn a very long time under certain conditions.
>
I've got some of those masks but I'm not sure if they're actually n95's.
>
> The n95 masks with a metal band you can form over the nose work
> best for me. Only occasional slight bit of fogging at the bottom of
> my glasses if worn a very long time under certain conditions.
>
I'll have to fish them out tomorrow and take a look.
Dummy me hadn't thought about using one of these. Thanks!
>
> I hate wearing these damn things, but it's the best thing to do,
> even if not forced to.
>
Sunday I broke my own rule about not shopping on the weekend and got ready
> I hate wearing these damn things, but it's the best thing to do,
> even if not forced to.
>
to head to JoAnn Fabrics. Put on lipstick, thankfully I only wear the non-
smearing type, and put on a mask. Then I thought that was stupid to put
on lipstick.
Leo
Jul 8, 2020, 2:20:20 AM7/8/20
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On 2020 Jul 7, , itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote
(in article<ae7d4b89-7b78-4f37...@googlegroups.com>):
> Sunday I broke my own rule about not shopping on the weekend and got ready
> to head to JoAnn Fabrics. Put on lipstick, thankfully I only wear the non-
> smearing type, and put on a mask. Then I thought that was stupid to put
> on lipstick.
My wife’s a JoAnn shopper. She’s a quilter.
My favorite:<https://postimg.cc/68S43f1S>
and another:<https://postimg.cc/zVQGSXSH>
and here's one in progress:<https://postimg.cc/XptnB14w>
She also makes family facemasks. At least one of us does something ;)
(in article<ae7d4b89-7b78-4f37...@googlegroups.com>):
> Sunday I broke my own rule about not shopping on the weekend and got ready
> to head to JoAnn Fabrics. Put on lipstick, thankfully I only wear the non-
> smearing type, and put on a mask. Then I thought that was stupid to put
> on lipstick.
My favorite:<https://postimg.cc/68S43f1S>
and another:<https://postimg.cc/zVQGSXSH>
and here's one in progress:<https://postimg.cc/XptnB14w>
She also makes family facemasks. At least one of us does something ;)
Bruce
Jul 8, 2020, 5:04:09 AM7/8/20
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On Tue, 07 Jul 2020 23:20:52 -0700, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
>On 2020 Jul 7, , itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote
>(in article<ae7d4b89-7b78-4f37...@googlegroups.com>):
>
>> Sunday I broke my own rule about not shopping on the weekend and got ready
>> to head to JoAnn Fabrics. Put on lipstick, thankfully I only wear the non-
>> smearing type, and put on a mask. Then I thought that was stupid to put
>> on lipstick.
>
>My wife’s a JoAnn shopper. She’s a quilter.
>
>My favorite:<https://postimg.cc/68S43f1S>
>and another:<https://postimg.cc/zVQGSXSH>
>and here's one in progress:<https://postimg.cc/XptnB14w>
Impressive!
wrote:
>On 2020 Jul 7, , itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote
>(in article<ae7d4b89-7b78-4f37...@googlegroups.com>):
>
>> Sunday I broke my own rule about not shopping on the weekend and got ready
>> to head to JoAnn Fabrics. Put on lipstick, thankfully I only wear the non-
>> smearing type, and put on a mask. Then I thought that was stupid to put
>> on lipstick.
>
>My wife’s a JoAnn shopper. She’s a quilter.
>
>My favorite:<https://postimg.cc/68S43f1S>
>and another:<https://postimg.cc/zVQGSXSH>
>and here's one in progress:<https://postimg.cc/XptnB14w>
Gary
Jul 8, 2020, 6:10:34 AM7/8/20
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Joan wrote:
>
> jmcquown wrote:
grinder at work. To smooth out badly peeled paint outside.
For that, you definitely wear a mask so not to breathe in
paint dust. Also want to wear goggles or some kind of glasses
to protect your eyes from flying bits. It was annoying as
the glasses would always fog up.
A decent compromise was to wear a tight fitting mask with
a metal band on top. You put the mask on then squeeze it
on both sides of nose to make a tighter fit. But put the
mask on a bit lower on your nose. Then with glasses, pull
them off your face a bit to allow more air between face
and glasses.
Here's a repeat photo of the masks I've used. I'm glad
I held on to 3 unused now with the virus mess. You can
use them over and over too. Just let them dry out then
put away for the next use. 2-3 days later, any virus
left on them dies out. Don't ever wash this kind, it
will fall apart in the washer. (guessing)
https://www.hostpic.org/images/2006031558400088.jpg
For the quick store trips, I only use the top band
and let the lower one hang. Just the top one holds
the mask on tightly. Look for these in a paint store
if you have one nearby.
Note: you can buy cheaper masks that have only one thin
rubber band too. They don't filter quite as good and
that thin band will break after a few uses.
>
> jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > Joan wrote:
> > >
> > > Dumbass mayor here has mandated masks for everyone now with many
> > > exceptions. COPD, asthma, etc.
> > >
> > If it's hard to breathe without a mask I can understand it could be more
> > difficult with a mask. I don't mind wearing a mask; the thing about the
> > mask that bugs me is my glasses keep fogging up. :(
> >
> > Jill
> >
> That's my main gripe, fogging of glasses. But I saw a YouTube video showing
> how to make a disposable mask using a paper towel, staples, and rubber bands.
> I tried it today and pretty comfortable and minimal fogging.
Many times over the years with my work, I'd have to use a
> > Joan wrote:
> > >
> > > Dumbass mayor here has mandated masks for everyone now with many
> > > exceptions. COPD, asthma, etc.
> > >
> > If it's hard to breathe without a mask I can understand it could be more
> > difficult with a mask. I don't mind wearing a mask; the thing about the
> > mask that bugs me is my glasses keep fogging up. :(
> >
> > Jill
> >
> That's my main gripe, fogging of glasses. But I saw a YouTube video showing
> how to make a disposable mask using a paper towel, staples, and rubber bands.
> I tried it today and pretty comfortable and minimal fogging.
grinder at work. To smooth out badly peeled paint outside.
For that, you definitely wear a mask so not to breathe in
paint dust. Also want to wear goggles or some kind of glasses
to protect your eyes from flying bits. It was annoying as
the glasses would always fog up.
A decent compromise was to wear a tight fitting mask with
a metal band on top. You put the mask on then squeeze it
on both sides of nose to make a tighter fit. But put the
mask on a bit lower on your nose. Then with glasses, pull
them off your face a bit to allow more air between face
and glasses.
Here's a repeat photo of the masks I've used. I'm glad
I held on to 3 unused now with the virus mess. You can
use them over and over too. Just let them dry out then
put away for the next use. 2-3 days later, any virus
left on them dies out. Don't ever wash this kind, it
will fall apart in the washer. (guessing)
https://www.hostpic.org/images/2006031558400088.jpg
For the quick store trips, I only use the top band
and let the lower one hang. Just the top one holds
the mask on tightly. Look for these in a paint store
if you have one nearby.
Note: you can buy cheaper masks that have only one thin
rubber band too. They don't filter quite as good and
that thin band will break after a few uses.
Cindy Hamilton
Jul 8, 2020, 6:12:44 AM7/8/20
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On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 4:59:59 PM UTC-4, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 3:10:17 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
> >
> > itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, I'm still considered four-eyes so I just stumble around in a haze
> > > when I wear the annoying thing. I have taken to pulling it down under
> > > my nose though.
> > >
> >
> > Isn't that the same as not wearing it?
> >
> Could be. It's either pull it down under my nose or mow people down since
> I can't see them through my fogged up glasses.
I must be wearing my mask wrong. My glasses don't fog up except
> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 3:10:17 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
> >
> > itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, I'm still considered four-eyes so I just stumble around in a haze
> > > when I wear the annoying thing. I have taken to pulling it down under
> > > my nose though.
> > >
> >
> > Isn't that the same as not wearing it?
> >
> Could be. It's either pull it down under my nose or mow people down since
> I can't see them through my fogged up glasses.
right when I put it on.
OTOH, they often fog up when I get out of the car whether I'm wearing
a mask or not. Depends on the humidity.
Cindy Hamilton
Ophelia
Jul 8, 2020, 7:00:33 AM7/8/20
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"Leo" wrote in message
news:0001HW.24B59D4400...@News.Individual.Net...
They are beautiful! Especially the last one :))
She is a very clever lady:))
O
Gary
Jul 8, 2020, 7:18:11 AM7/8/20
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Bruce wrote:
>
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:34:15 -0400, Dave Smith
> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >On 2020-07-07 6:07 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> >> On 7/7/2020 10:43 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> >>>> The problem is more that not wearing one you might kill someone else.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Sure. That was her story to me, letting me know what a martyr she was
> >>> to be wearing a mask to protect me..... except that she has violated
> >>> my intentional and conscientious social distance, walked right up to
> >>> me and then took off her mask to give me a lecture. That was complete
> >>> self righteous idiocy.
> >>
> >> Idiocy abounds. Maybe she thought you wouldn't be able to hear her with
>
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:34:15 -0400, Dave Smith
> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >On 2020-07-07 6:07 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> >> On 7/7/2020 10:43 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> >>>> The problem is more that not wearing one you might kill someone else.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Sure. That was her story to me, letting me know what a martyr she was
> >>> to be wearing a mask to protect me..... except that she has violated
> >>> my intentional and conscientious social distance, walked right up to
> >>> me and then took off her mask to give me a lecture. That was complete
> >>> self righteous idiocy.
> >>
> >> the mask on. (You should be wearing one, though.)
> >
> >Communication is definitely a problem with people wearing masks. The
> >thing is that around here the suggestion has been that you should wear a
> >mask if you cannot maintain social distance. I was distancing myself,
> >but then she came up to me, way inside the 6 feet self distancing zone
> >and pulled her mask down.... to tell me that I should wear one.
>
> People are constantly walking into me or just past me in shops. Also
> older ones. Of course, Australia has had 106 covid deaths and the US
> 130,000.
Then learn from recent history and stay that way. Always wear a
> >Communication is definitely a problem with people wearing masks. The
> >thing is that around here the suggestion has been that you should wear a
> >mask if you cannot maintain social distance. I was distancing myself,
> >but then she came up to me, way inside the 6 feet self distancing zone
> >and pulled her mask down.... to tell me that I should wear one.
>
> People are constantly walking into me or just past me in shops. Also
> older ones. Of course, Australia has had 106 covid deaths and the US
> 130,000.
mask in public. Your coldest winter months have just started.
That's when people congregate more inside. Let Melborne situation
be an early warning to you.
Bruce
Jul 8, 2020, 7:36:41 AM7/8/20
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the season. Of course, scientists change their story often, since this
is all new.
Winter hasn't just started but is almost halfway. September is the
first month of spring. Seven weeks to go.
Dave Smith
Jul 8, 2020, 8:58:10 AM7/8/20
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On 2020-07-08 6:12 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 4:59:59 PM UTC-4, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>> Could be. It's either pull it down under my nose or mow people down since
>> I can't see them through my fogged up glasses.
>
> I must be wearing my mask wrong. My glasses don't fog up except
> right when I put it on.
>
You are lucky. A few weeks ago I went for an eye examination and I went
> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 4:59:59 PM UTC-4, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>> Could be. It's either pull it down under my nose or mow people down since
>> I can't see them through my fogged up glasses.
>
> I must be wearing my mask wrong. My glasses don't fog up except
> right when I put it on.
>
through that deal where I had to cover one eye and read the letters on
the chart with my glasses on. As soon as said the letter my lens would
fog up and I would have to wait for it to clear before proceeding.
Sheldon Martin
Jul 8, 2020, 10:45:37 AM7/8/20
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entire face including eyes and have replacable filtration canisters,
there are many brands. A must for spray painters.
https://www.amazon.com/HAOX-Respirator-Organic-Chemical-Woodworking/dp/B085WY7VTY/ref=sr_1_26?dchild=1&keywords=respirator&qid=1594219076&sr=8-26
graham
Jul 8, 2020, 10:48:57 AM7/8/20
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Sheldon Martin
Jul 8, 2020, 11:35:00 AM7/8/20
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On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 jmcquown wrote:
surgery no more glasses. I didn't know I had cataracts until I went
to a different eyeglass place and was examined by an Opthamologist.
Opticians mainy sell glasses, they don't examine eyes.
>On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 jmcquown wrote:
>> On 7/7/2020 itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>> >
>> > Dumbass mayor here has mandated masks for everyone now with many
>> > exceptions. COPD, asthma, etc.
>> >
>> If it's hard to breathe without a mask I can understand it could be more
>> difficult with a mask. I don't mind wearing a mask; the thing about the
>> mask that bugs me is my glasses keep fogging up. :(
>>
>> Jill
>>
>That's my main gripe, fogging of glasses. But I saw a YouTube video showing
>how to make a disposable mask using a paper towel, staples, and rubber bands.
>I tried it today and pretty comfortable and minimal fogging.
My glasses would fog up from the mask too but since my cataract
>> >
>> > Dumbass mayor here has mandated masks for everyone now with many
>> > exceptions. COPD, asthma, etc.
>> >
>> If it's hard to breathe without a mask I can understand it could be more
>> difficult with a mask. I don't mind wearing a mask; the thing about the
>> mask that bugs me is my glasses keep fogging up. :(
>>
>> Jill
>>
>That's my main gripe, fogging of glasses. But I saw a YouTube video showing
>how to make a disposable mask using a paper towel, staples, and rubber bands.
>I tried it today and pretty comfortable and minimal fogging.
surgery no more glasses. I didn't know I had cataracts until I went
to a different eyeglass place and was examined by an Opthamologist.
Opticians mainy sell glasses, they don't examine eyes.
Sheldon Martin
Jul 8, 2020, 12:04:11 PM7/8/20
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The N95 masks are fitted with a one way vent so the air you inhale is
filtered by the mask, when exhaling that moist air passes through the
vent, very little fogging of glasses. I started wearing the N95 mask
for mowing grass, filters out dust/pollen... Amazon had them for
cheap, a box of 12 cost like $8... I still have a bunch, they are much
more comfortable than the run of the mill paper masks sold everywhere.
I still wear an N95 for mowing. My big tractor has a cab and it has a
cabin filter, but really doesn't filter out all the fine particulates
so I still wear an N95. A paper mask is not for protecting the wearer
from the virus, it helps protect those nearby if the wearer
coughs/sneezes. For best virus protection wear a military style gas
mask. Amazon sells them but they cost.
https://www.amazon.com/Israeli-Mask-Straw-Specifications-Filter/dp/B089JMCTCS/ref=sr_1_2?crid=QVXNPO0LWOQK&dchild=1&keywords=gas+mask+military&qid=1594224026&sprefix=gas+mask%2Cspecialty-aps-sns%2C204&sr=8-2
itsjoan...@webtv.net
Jul 8, 2020, 1:45:33 PM7/8/20
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On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 1:20:20 AM UTC-5, Leo wrote:
>
> My wife’s a JoAnn shopper. She’s a quilter.
>
> My favorite:<https://postimg.cc/68S43f1S>
> and another:<https://postimg.cc/zVQGSXSH>
> and here's one in progress:<https://postimg.cc/XptnB14w>
>
> She also makes family facemasks. At least one of us does something ;)
>
WOW! Just beautiful!! I've started a Dresden plate quilt and that's
>
> My wife’s a JoAnn shopper. She’s a quilter.
>
> My favorite:<https://postimg.cc/68S43f1S>
> and another:<https://postimg.cc/zVQGSXSH>
> and here's one in progress:<https://postimg.cc/XptnB14w>
>
> She also makes family facemasks. At least one of us does something ;)
>
about it. Started it. Does she do the quilting portion, too, or does
she send the top out to a long arm quilter??
The only thing that got me out of the house this past Sunday to shop
was that I had a one day only 60% off coupon. I wasn't going to let
that pass without me galloping to their store.
itsjoan...@webtv.net
Jul 8, 2020, 1:49:39 PM7/8/20
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one could see my lips.
itsjoan...@webtv.net
Jul 8, 2020, 1:53:01 PM7/8/20
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On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 10:35:00 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
> My glasses would fog up from the mask too but since my cataract
> surgery no more glasses. I didn't know I had cataracts until I went
> to a different eyeglass place and was examined by an Opthamologist.
> Opticians mainy sell glasses, they don't examine eyes.
>
Optometrists examine eyes, opticians grind the lenses, (my oldest brother
>
> My glasses would fog up from the mask too but since my cataract
> surgery no more glasses. I didn't know I had cataracts until I went
> to a different eyeglass place and was examined by an Opthamologist.
> Opticians mainy sell glasses, they don't examine eyes.
>
was one) and Ophthalmologists treat eye diseases.
Hank Rogers
Jul 8, 2020, 2:18:18 PM7/8/20
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Cindy Hamilton
Jul 8, 2020, 2:41:04 PM7/8/20
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the prescription for my glasses, dilates my pupils and examines my
retinas.
Cindy Hamilton
Cindy Hamilton
Jul 8, 2020, 2:42:31 PM7/8/20
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tongue on it.
Cindy Hamilton
itsjoan...@webtv.net
Jul 8, 2020, 3:05:29 PM7/8/20
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On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 1:18:18 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
But I saw a guy in a car as he passed and his had a handlebar mustache either
drawn or appliqued on.
>
> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> >
> > Sunday I broke my own rule about not shopping on the weekend and got ready
> > to head to JoAnn Fabrics. Put on lipstick, thankfully I only wear the non-
> > smearing type, and put on a mask. Then I thought that was stupid to put
> > on lipstick.
> >
>
> You can always paint the lipstick on the outside of the mask :)
>
EEK!
> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> >
> > Sunday I broke my own rule about not shopping on the weekend and got ready
> > to head to JoAnn Fabrics. Put on lipstick, thankfully I only wear the non-
> > smearing type, and put on a mask. Then I thought that was stupid to put
> > on lipstick.
> >
>
> You can always paint the lipstick on the outside of the mask :)
>
But I saw a guy in a car as he passed and his had a handlebar mustache either
drawn or appliqued on.
itsjoan...@webtv.net
Jul 8, 2020, 3:09:01 PM7/8/20
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On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 1:41:04 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> My ophthalmologist examines my eyes. He does the refraction to get
> the prescription for my glasses, dilates my pupils and examines my
> retinas.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
My optometrist does all that but if there is a problem he has sent me to
>
> My ophthalmologist examines my eyes. He does the refraction to get
> the prescription for my glasses, dilates my pupils and examines my
> retinas.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
an opthalmologist in the past.
Dave Smith
Jul 8, 2020, 4:29:37 PM7/8/20
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one was a lump on my lower eyelid that turned out to have been a
chilazion that had to be surgically removed. Not a big deal. He froze
the area, stuck some sort of device there to hold my eyelid in place and
then poked around to remove the hard cyst. It was disconcerting to hear
and feel the scritch scritch scritch as he dug it out.
The second one was about a fatty deposit on the side of my eyeball. He
monitored it for a couple years, sent me for a couple CTscans to allow
him to measure it. It did not change in all that time, so the annoying
feeling there is attributed to the chilazion and the loss of the tear
duct when it was removed.
I see an optometrist once a year to check my visual acuity. I was in
about three weeks ago and I just got my new glasses two days ago. Nice
to have nice clean, unscratched lenses and the new prescription. There
was no dilation this time. Due to Covid19 and protective masks she
cannot see the retina so they go high tech and use the retinal scanner.
Bruce
Jul 8, 2020, 4:41:49 PM7/8/20
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Ophthalmologists and I
A Journey Through the Years
by Dave Smith
cshenk
Jul 8, 2020, 5:12:01 PM7/8/20
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Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 "tsjoannotjoann wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 Gary wrote:
> >> Dave Smith wrote:
> >> > > jmcquown wrote:
> >> > > ...
> >> > >> Masks are now MANDATORY in the county where I live (effective
> July 4th) >> > >> when out in public. Stores won't let you inside if
> you aren't wearing >> > >> one. Good! I say it's about damn time
> people start taking this virus >> > >> seriously.
> >> > >
> >> You should just wear one when inside stores or around others,
> >> Dave. It won't kill you to take that bit of protection yet it
> >> might kill you NOT to wear one.
> find masks itchy... and now they don't fog my glasses as after
> cataract surgery I no longer wear glasses... amazing... I should have
> had this surgery years ago.
Ditto on the COPD. Don has it. Mask is no problem. As for asthma, it
actually helps filter the air.
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 "tsjoannotjoann wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 Gary wrote:
> >> Dave Smith wrote:
> >> > > jmcquown wrote:
> >> > > ...
> >> > >> Masks are now MANDATORY in the county where I live (effective
> July 4th) >> > >> when out in public. Stores won't let you inside if
> you aren't wearing >> > >> one. Good! I say it's about damn time
> people start taking this virus >> > >> seriously.
> >> > >
> >> You should just wear one when inside stores or around others,
> >> Dave. It won't kill you to take that bit of protection yet it
> >> might kill you NOT to wear one.
> > >
> > Dumbass mayor here has mandated masks for everyone now with many
> > exceptions. COPD, asthma, etc.
>
> I have COPD and wearing a mask has no effect on my breathing, I just
> > Dumbass mayor here has mandated masks for everyone now with many
> > exceptions. COPD, asthma, etc.
>
> find masks itchy... and now they don't fog my glasses as after
> cataract surgery I no longer wear glasses... amazing... I should have
> had this surgery years ago.
Ditto on the COPD. Don has it. Mask is no problem. As for asthma, it
actually helps filter the air.
cshenk
Jul 8, 2020, 5:12:59 PM7/8/20
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itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 2:26:50 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 "tsjoannotjoann wrote:
> > >
> > > Dumbass mayor here has mandated masks for everyone now with many
> > > exceptions. COPD, asthma, etc.
> >
> > I have COPD and wearing a mask has no effect on my breathing, I just
> > find masks itchy... and now they don't fog my glasses as after
> > cataract surgery I no longer wear glasses... amazing... I should
> > have had this surgery years ago.
> >
> under my nose though.
That defeats the use of it.
> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 2:26:50 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 "tsjoannotjoann wrote:
> > >
> > > Dumbass mayor here has mandated masks for everyone now with many
> > > exceptions. COPD, asthma, etc.
> >
> > I have COPD and wearing a mask has no effect on my breathing, I just
> > find masks itchy... and now they don't fog my glasses as after
> > cataract surgery I no longer wear glasses... amazing... I should
> > have had this surgery years ago.
> >
> Well, I'm still considered four-eyes so I just stumble around in a
> haze when I wear the annoying thing. I have taken to pulling it down
> under my nose though.
That defeats the use of it.
cshenk
Jul 8, 2020, 5:17:17 PM7/8/20
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jmcquown wrote:
> I wait to put mine on right before I get out of the car to go into a
> store. I take if off when I'm back in the car and heading home.
> Yes, the eyeglass fogging thing is annoying as hell. Today it was
> pouring down rain on top of everything else. 'Tis the rainy season
> here. It's hard enough to see in a downpour, especially when there
> are idiots driving grey or dark cars who don't bother to follow the
> law and turn on their headlights. I'm not going to wear a mask in my
> car and double the chances of not seeing a car because my glasses are
> fogged up.
>
> Jill
Thats because you aren't wearing it right. Worn correctly, your
glasses do not fog up.
The mask is designed to be breathed *through*, not around by leaving
gaps around the nose. Thats why a soft cloth mask is better than a
disposable 'surgical' mask.
> store. I take if off when I'm back in the car and heading home.
> Yes, the eyeglass fogging thing is annoying as hell. Today it was
> pouring down rain on top of everything else. 'Tis the rainy season
> here. It's hard enough to see in a downpour, especially when there
> are idiots driving grey or dark cars who don't bother to follow the
> law and turn on their headlights. I'm not going to wear a mask in my
> car and double the chances of not seeing a car because my glasses are
> fogged up.
>
> Jill
Thats because you aren't wearing it right. Worn correctly, your
glasses do not fog up.
The mask is designed to be breathed *through*, not around by leaving
gaps around the nose. Thats why a soft cloth mask is better than a
disposable 'surgical' mask.
cshenk
Jul 8, 2020, 5:21:12 PM7/8/20
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jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/7/2020 2:37 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
Folks, I too wear glasses. I did a very simple google search and found
out why. I was wearing it wrong. There was clear space around my nose
so instead of breathing *through* the mask, I was breathing around it.
Adjust the nose area. ZGet one with a nose insert that 'bends around'
the nose if you need to.
> On 7/7/2020 2:37 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 9:21:21 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > >
> > > Dave Smith wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > jmcquown wrote:
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Masks are now MANDATORY in the county where I live
> > > > > > (effective July 4th) when out in public. Stores won't let
> > > > > > you inside if you aren't wearing one. Good! I say it's
> > > > > > about damn time people start taking this virus seriously.
> > > > >
> > > You should just wear one when inside stores or around others,
> > > Dave. It won't kill you to take that bit of protection yet it
> > > might kill you NOT to wear one.
> > >
> > >
> > > Dave Smith wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > jmcquown wrote:
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Masks are now MANDATORY in the county where I live
> > > > > > (effective July 4th) when out in public. Stores won't let
> > > > > > you inside if you aren't wearing one. Good! I say it's
> > > > > > about damn time people start taking this virus seriously.
> > > > >
> > > You should just wear one when inside stores or around others,
> > > Dave. It won't kill you to take that bit of protection yet it
> > > might kill you NOT to wear one.
> > >
> > Dumbass mayor here has mandated masks for everyone now with many
> > exceptions. COPD, asthma, etc.
> >
> > exceptions. COPD, asthma, etc.
> >
> If it's hard to breathe without a mask I can understand it could be
> more difficult with a mask. I don't mind wearing a mask; the thing
> about the mask that bugs me is my glasses keep fogging up. :(
>
> Jill
Le Sigh...
> more difficult with a mask. I don't mind wearing a mask; the thing
> about the mask that bugs me is my glasses keep fogging up. :(
>
> Jill
Folks, I too wear glasses. I did a very simple google search and found
out why. I was wearing it wrong. There was clear space around my nose
so instead of breathing *through* the mask, I was breathing around it.
Adjust the nose area. ZGet one with a nose insert that 'bends around'
the nose if you need to.
Hank Rogers
Jul 8, 2020, 5:35:59 PM7/8/20
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dsi1
Jul 8, 2020, 5:45:26 PM7/8/20
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On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 8:20:20 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Jul 7, , itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote
> (in article<ae7d4b89-7b78-4f37...@googlegroups.com>):
>
> On 2020 Jul 7, , itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote
> (in article<ae7d4b89-7b78-4f37...@googlegroups.com>):
>
> > Sunday I broke my own rule about not shopping on the weekend and got ready
> > to head to JoAnn Fabrics. Put on lipstick, thankfully I only wear the non-
> > smearing type, and put on a mask. Then I thought that was stupid to put
> > on lipstick.
>
> > to head to JoAnn Fabrics. Put on lipstick, thankfully I only wear the non-
> > smearing type, and put on a mask. Then I thought that was stupid to put
> > on lipstick.
>
> My wife’s a JoAnn shopper. She’s a quilter.
>
> My favorite:<https://postimg.cc/68S43f1S>
> and another:<https://postimg.cc/zVQGSXSH>
> and here's one in progress:<https://postimg.cc/XptnB14w>
>
> She also makes family facemasks. At least one of us does something ;)
Thanks for the pictures. I like the second one best but that's probably because I used to be a printer. Quilting is big on this rock. Mostly, it's done by the older generation. My guess is that it's some kind of thing that the missionaries taught because it was seen as a wholesome, activity that kept idle hands busy. The Hawaiian quilts are mostly based on plant motifs.
>
> My favorite:<https://postimg.cc/68S43f1S>
> and another:<https://postimg.cc/zVQGSXSH>
> and here's one in progress:<https://postimg.cc/XptnB14w>
>
> She also makes family facemasks. At least one of us does something ;)
https://www.pinterest.com/quiltinspire/hawaiian-quilts/
itsjoan...@webtv.net
Jul 8, 2020, 5:46:19 PM7/8/20
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On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 4:12:59 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
>
> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> > Well, I'm still considered four-eyes so I just stumble around in a
> > haze when I wear the annoying thing. I have taken to pulling it down
> > under my nose though.
>
> That defeats the use of it.
>
The mask defeats me breathing.
> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> > Well, I'm still considered four-eyes so I just stumble around in a
> > haze when I wear the annoying thing. I have taken to pulling it down
> > under my nose though.
>
> That defeats the use of it.
>
itsjoan...@webtv.net
Jul 8, 2020, 5:49:26 PM7/8/20
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On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 4:17:17 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
>
> Thats because you aren't wearing it right. Worn correctly, your
> glasses do not fog up.
>
> The mask is designed to be breathed *through*, not around by leaving
> gaps around the nose. Thats why a soft cloth mask is better than a
> disposable 'surgical' mask.
>
Mine is/was a cloth mask. No amount of adjusting closed any gaps and on
>
> Thats because you aren't wearing it right. Worn correctly, your
> glasses do not fog up.
>
> The mask is designed to be breathed *through*, not around by leaving
> gaps around the nose. Thats why a soft cloth mask is better than a
> disposable 'surgical' mask.
>
top of that I also felt it was too tight on my ears. I hate masks, I hate
scarves, I hate hats, too.
Cindy Hamilton
Jul 9, 2020, 6:06:06 AM7/9/20
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Cindy Hamilton
Gary
Jul 9, 2020, 9:27:17 AM7/9/20
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> > Sunday I broke my own rule about not shopping on the weekend and got ready
> > to head to JoAnn Fabrics. Put on lipstick, thankfully I only wear the non-
> > smearing type, and put on a mask. Then I thought that was stupid to put
> > on lipstick.
> >
>
> You can always paint the lipstick on the outside of the mask :)
heheh That would be funny to do.
> > to head to JoAnn Fabrics. Put on lipstick, thankfully I only wear the non-
> > smearing type, and put on a mask. Then I thought that was stupid to put
> > on lipstick.
> >
>
> You can always paint the lipstick on the outside of the mask :)
Ophelia
Jul 9, 2020, 10:37:12 AM7/9/20
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"dsi1" wrote in message
news:ece74eb3-fbce-416e...@googlegroups.com...
Beautiful!!!
cshenk
Jul 9, 2020, 7:14:20 PM7/9/20
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big lolling tounge
cshenk
Jul 9, 2020, 7:21:12 PM7/9/20
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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 4:59:59 PM UTC-4, itsjoan...@webtv.net
> wrote:
> > >
> > Could be. It's either pull it down under my nose or mow people
> > down since I can't see them through my fogged up glasses.
>
> I must be wearing my mask wrong. My glasses don't fog up except
> right when I put it on.
>
> OTOH, they often fog up when I get out of the car whether I'm wearing
> a mask or not. Depends on the humidity.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
Means you are wearing the mask correctly. Joan is the one with the
issues with fogging. I have no issues at all.
> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 4:59:59 PM UTC-4, itsjoan...@webtv.net
> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 3:10:17 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
> > >
> > > itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, I'm still considered four-eyes so I just stumble around
> > > > in a haze when I wear the annoying thing. I have taken to
> > > > pulling it down under my nose though.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Isn't that the same as not wearing it?
> > >
> > > itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, I'm still considered four-eyes so I just stumble around
> > > > in a haze when I wear the annoying thing. I have taken to
> > > > pulling it down under my nose though.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > Could be. It's either pull it down under my nose or mow people
> > down since I can't see them through my fogged up glasses.
>
> I must be wearing my mask wrong. My glasses don't fog up except
> right when I put it on.
>
> OTOH, they often fog up when I get out of the car whether I'm wearing
> a mask or not. Depends on the humidity.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
Means you are wearing the mask correctly. Joan is the one with the
issues with fogging. I have no issues at all.
cshenk
Jul 9, 2020, 7:44:05 PM7/9/20
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Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-07-08 6:12 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 4:59:59 PM UTC-4, itsjoan...@webtv.net
> > wrote:
>
> > > Could be. It's either pull it down under my nose or mow people
> > > down since I can't see them through my fogged up glasses.
> >
> > I must be wearing my mask wrong. My glasses don't fog up except
> > right when I put it on.
> >
>
> You are lucky. A few weeks ago I went for an eye examination and I
> went through that deal where I had to cover one eye and read the
> letters on the chart with my glasses on. As soon as said the letter
> my lens would fog up and I would have to wait for it to clear before
> proceeding.
How to wear a mask properly with glasses.
> On 2020-07-08 6:12 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 4:59:59 PM UTC-4, itsjoan...@webtv.net
> > wrote:
>
> > > Could be. It's either pull it down under my nose or mow people
> > > down since I can't see them through my fogged up glasses.
> >
> > I must be wearing my mask wrong. My glasses don't fog up except
> > right when I put it on.
> >
>
> went through that deal where I had to cover one eye and read the
> letters on the chart with my glasses on. As soon as said the letter
> my lens would fog up and I would have to wait for it to clear before
> proceeding.
>
>
>
> > OTOH, they often fog up when I get out of the car whether I'm
> > wearing a mask or not. Depends on the humidity.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
https://healthcare.utah.edu/healthfeed/postings/2020/06/foggy-glasses-face-masks.php
>
>
> > OTOH, they often fog up when I get out of the car whether I'm
> > wearing a mask or not. Depends on the humidity.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
How to wear a mask properly with glasses.
cshenk
Jul 9, 2020, 7:51:29 PM7/9/20
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through one that was properly made 2 layer cotton, you need to seek a
health professional.
It's slightly uncomfortable and takes a minute or so to adjust but then
it's fine.
If you can't, then stay home please.
cshenk
Jul 9, 2020, 7:52:31 PM7/9/20
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itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 4:17:17 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> >
> > Thats because you aren't wearing it right. Worn correctly, your
> > glasses do not fog up.
> >
> > The mask is designed to be breathed through, not around by leaving
> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 4:17:17 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> >
> > Thats because you aren't wearing it right. Worn correctly, your
> > glasses do not fog up.
> >
> > gaps around the nose. Thats why a soft cloth mask is better than a
> > disposable 'surgical' mask.
> >
> Mine is/was a cloth mask. No amount of adjusting closed any gaps and
> on top of that I also felt it was too tight on my ears. I hate
> masks, I hate scarves, I hate hats, too.
https://healthcare.utah.edu/healthfeed/postings/2020/06/foggy-glasses-face-masks.php
> > disposable 'surgical' mask.
> >
> Mine is/was a cloth mask. No amount of adjusting closed any gaps and
> on top of that I also felt it was too tight on my ears. I hate
> masks, I hate scarves, I hate hats, too.
Now get one with a metal bendable clip insert around the nose.
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