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Julie Bove

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May 10, 2019, 1:35:12 AM5/10/19
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Hey, at least it's food related! Made with refried beans, carne molida,
sharp cheddar, pico de gallo, iceberg lettuce and black olives. Yum!

U.S. Janet B.

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I just don't care for potatoes cooked in Tex-Mex meat preparations.
Don't like breakfast burritos for the same reason. I've tried but I
just don't like the mouth feel.
I'll just have the beans on the tostada.
Janet US

Bolie Juve

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May 10, 2019, 12:57:32 PM5/10/19
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On Thu, 9 May 2019 22:35:02 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:

> Hey, at least it's food related! Made with refried beans, carne molida,
> sharp cheddar, pico de gallo, iceberg lettuce and black olives. Yum!

Nobody here eats carne molida and nobody here has ever even heard of
it. You won't see it on any restaurant menus here.

Julie Bove

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"U.S. Janet B." <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Where did I say potatoes? I've never seen a potato tostada.

Julie Bove

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May 10, 2019, 3:56:23 PM5/10/19
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"Bolie Juve" <boli...@newhorizons.net> wrote in message
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You will here!

http://www.elantojo.com/index.php

Alas the meat choices are no longer listed and the Grill (not where I go)
has changed the wording to ground beef,

I do see that the Puerto Rican style has potatoes and green olives. Mine
does not.

https://www.modernmami.com/latino-latina-culture/puerto-rico/carne-molida-ground-beef-recipe/

I also see recipes for Carne Molida Con Papas which is ground beef with
potatoes.

This place serves Carne Molida tacos. No potato.

https://www.yelp.com/menu/barrios-fine-mexican-dishes-oklahoma-city/item/carne-molida-taco

And here's a recipe for enchiladas:

https://hispanickitchen.com/recipes/ground-beef-enchiladas/

Ray Abbitt

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May 10, 2019, 5:43:31 PM5/10/19
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In article <1dy0aexnab7f2$.d...@sqwertz.com>,
>
>Nobody here eats carne molida and nobody here has ever even heard of
>it. You won't see it on any restaurant menus here.

Actually almost everyone here eats carne molida (vegetrarians being the
exception). It actually means ground (or minced) beef. Although that
probably isn't what she meant. Probably some made up definition instead.


-ray

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May 10, 2019, 7:42:49 PM5/10/19
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On Fri, 10 May 2019 Ray Abbitt wrote:
>>
>>Nobody here eats carne molida and nobody here has ever even heard of
>>it. You won't see it on any restaurant menus here.
>
>Actually almost everyone here eats carne molida (vegetrarians being the
>exception). It actually means ground (or minced) beef. Although that
>probably isn't what she meant. Probably some made up definition instead.
>
>-ray

Great recipes.
http://www.elboricua.com/mojodeislena.html

Julie Bove

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May 10, 2019, 7:47:09 PM5/10/19
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"Ray Abbitt" <spam...@abbitt.org> wrote in message
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That's exactly what I meant.

jmcquown

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May 10, 2019, 8:25:15 PM5/10/19
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What potatoes?

Jill

U.S. Janet B.

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May 10, 2019, 9:58:38 PM5/10/19
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On Fri, 10 May 2019 20:25:10 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
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it's my understanding that molida is traditionally made with potatoes
in the meat mixture

jmcquown

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May 10, 2019, 10:24:38 PM5/10/19
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Okay, thanks, Janet! I was unfamiliary with the term 'molida'. I can
say I'm not particularly fond of potatoes in Tex-Mex stuff like
breakfast burritos, either. But then my only encounter with them has
been frozen breakfast burritos and really, one try, no thanks!

I saw a show on PBS about making tostadas the other day. I can't
remember her name but she used a comal drizzled with oil to heat the
corn tortillas to a crisp and then topped them with some different tasty
toppings. Trust me, there wasn't any cheddar cheese involved. Crumbled
Oaxaca and Queso Blanco (or was it Queso Fresco?) were the Mexican
melting cheeses. I do believe there was simmered, shredded seasoned
beef, shredded lettuce and maybe olives involved.

My take-away from it: tostadas are similar to crisp corn tacos, except
they're flat. :)

Jill

Julie Bove

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May 10, 2019, 10:37:51 PM5/10/19
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They're weren't any.

Julie Bove

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"U.S. Janet B." <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Nope.

Julie Bove

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"jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Exactly. And no potatoes. Carne molida is simply seasoned ground beef.

Sqwertz

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May 10, 2019, 11:37:13 PM5/10/19
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On Fri, 10 May 2019 12:56:13 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:

> "Bolie Juve" <boli...@newhorizons.net> wrote in message
> news:1dy0aexnab7f2$.dlg@sqwertz.com...
>> On Thu, 9 May 2019 22:35:02 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> Hey, at least it's food related! Made with refried beans, carne molida,
>>> sharp cheddar, pico de gallo, iceberg lettuce and black olives. Yum!
>>
>> Nobody here eats carne molida and nobody here has ever even heard of
>> it. You won't see it on any restaurant menus here.
>
> You will here!
>
> http://www.elantojo.com/index.php

Funny how that works. When you say "we don't have that here/nobody
eats that" and somebody uses restaurant menus to disprove it, you
still deny it somehow.

Yet we're supposed to listen to you when you use restaurant menus to
prove it.

Yeah, you walked right into that, Bolie Juve.

-sw

Sqwertz

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May 10, 2019, 11:39:38 PM5/10/19
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Here it's more commonly picadillo sencillo, but also the other since
we have Mexicans from all over.

-sw

U.S. Janet B.

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May 11, 2019, 1:21:10 AM5/11/19
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On Fri, 10 May 2019 19:39:30 -0700, "Julie Bove"
Carne Molida
http://www.tastingpuertorico.com/carne-molida/
2 lbs ground beef
Adobo Seasoning (about 1Tbsp)
1 packet Sazón Seasoning
1 Tbsp tomato paste
2 Tbsp tomato sauce
2 Tbsp sofrito
8-10 Spanish salad olives
2 small potatoes (peeled & cubed) – optional
Directions
Season ground beef with adobo
Add ground beef to a large pan and begin to brown on low to medium
heat
Add the Sofrito, Sazon Seasoning, Tomato Paste, Tomato Sauce, Olives
and Potatoes and cook on low until the ground beef is cooked and
potatoes are tender

this is the way I have had it. I assumed that if Julie was making
Mexican seasoned ground beef she would have said so. Since she said
molida I thought of the above. I was surprised to see the recipe
indicate potatoes optional, I've never had it that way. Other recipes
do not say optional. Very much like Mexican Picadillo
Janet US

Julie Bove

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May 11, 2019, 2:10:14 AM5/11/19
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"U.S. Janet B." <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> 2 small potatoes (peeled & cubed) - optional
> Directions
> Season ground beef with adobo
> Add ground beef to a large pan and begin to brown on low to medium
> heat
> Add the Sofrito, Sazon Seasoning, Tomato Paste, Tomato Sauce, Olives
> and Potatoes and cook on low until the ground beef is cooked and
> potatoes are tender
>
> this is the way I have had it. I assumed that if Julie was making
> Mexican seasoned ground beef she would have said so. Since she said
> molida I thought of the above. I was surprised to see the recipe
> indicate potatoes optional, I've never had it that way. Other recipes
> do not say optional. Very much like Mexican Picadillo
> Janet US

Nope. If it has potatoes it is usually Con Papas.

Cindy Hamilton

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May 11, 2019, 6:28:26 AM5/11/19
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She means picadillo of some sort.

Cindy Hamilton

Gary

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May 11, 2019, 6:48:06 AM5/11/19
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Looking at that recipe, I'd say that the "2 small potatoes"
really would be optional and insignificant if added or not.
Probably just used as a filler.

U.S. Janet B.

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May 11, 2019, 2:43:56 PM5/11/19
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On Fri, 10 May 2019 23:10:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
Nope won't do. Yes, carne con papas has potatoes,There are recipes
for carne molida with potatoes. You didn't read the recipe that I
posted for you, did you?

Julie Bove

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"U.S. Janet B." <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Yes, I did. But that is not the way it's made here.

U.S. Janet B.

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May 12, 2019, 12:37:36 AM5/12/19
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On Sat, 11 May 2019 20:12:55 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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>"U.S. Janet B." <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message

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>>>
>>>Nope. If it has potatoes it is usually Con Papas.
>>
>> Nope won't do. Yes, carne con papas has potatoes,There are recipes
>> for carne molida with potatoes. You didn't read the recipe that I
>> posted for you, did you?
>
>Yes, I did. But that is not the way it's made here.

how did you prepare your molida?

Julie Bove

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May 12, 2019, 3:32:44 AM5/12/19
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"U.S. Janet B." <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Ground beef, a little water and chili powder.

barbie gee

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May 12, 2019, 11:40:04 AM5/12/19
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The recipe site Julie posted is called
<http://www.tastingpuertorico.com/carne-molida/>

which just might mean it's a Puerto Rican version of Carne Molida?

I saw a Tex-Mex version without potatoes, and a "Mexican" version without
potatoes, until it's called "Carne Molida con Papas". Here in Chicago, I
have found ground beef filling with potatoes called "Picadillo". The
potatoes must be cubed small, and very well cooked. Delicious in a taco!
Maybe a bit sloppy for a tostada.

U.S. Janet B.

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May 12, 2019, 12:10:15 PM5/12/19
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On Sun, 12 May 2019 00:32:32 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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>
>"U.S. Janet B." <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 11 May 2019 20:12:55 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"U.S. Janet B." <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>
>> snip
>>>>>
>>>>>Nope. If it has potatoes it is usually Con Papas.
>>>>
>>>> Nope won't do. Yes, carne con papas has potatoes,There are recipes
>>>> for carne molida with potatoes. You didn't read the recipe that I
>>>> posted for you, did you?
>>>
>>>Yes, I did. But that is not the way it's made here.
>>
>> how did you prepare your molida?
>
>Ground beef, a little water and chili powder.

Is that what they call molida in Washington? Here it would be ground
beef tacos or tostada. I thought you were doing something with more
elaborate seasonings.

jmcquown

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May 12, 2019, 12:59:40 PM5/12/19
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On 5/12/2019 3:32 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
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> "U.S. Janet B." <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 11 May 2019 20:12:55 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "U.S. Janet B." <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>
>> snip
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope. If it has potatoes it is usually Con Papas.
>>>>
>>>> Nope won't do. Yes, carne con papas has potatoes,There are recipes
>>>> for carne molida with potatoes.   You didn't read the recipe that I
>>>> posted for you, did you?
>>>
>>> Yes, I did. But that is not the way it's made here.
>>
>> how did you prepare your molida?
>
> Ground beef, a little water and chili powder.

It sounds very bland. Commercial chili powder usually is. No reason to
call it molida as if you actually cooked something fancy.

Jill

jmcquown

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May 12, 2019, 1:10:01 PM5/12/19
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She already said she was making tostadas which is basically a flat crisp
corn taco. I've never made molida but she definitely took the cheap
flat tasting option. Commercial chili powder is pretty darn bland. I'd
like a bit of bite in that ground meat concoction.

Jill

penm...@aol.com

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Most people who cook Mexican serve with a bottle of hot sauce, this
way each can add how much heat they like or add none.

jmcquown

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True, Sheldon, but my point was commercial chili powder is bland. I
have jarred ground ancho (smoky and slightly hot) and chipotle (not hot
but tasty) on hand to add more *oomph* (not necessarily heat) to a
commercial chili powder blend. I always have hot sauce on hand in the
fridge.

Jill

Julie Bove

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"U.S. Janet B." <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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You can season it however you want. It just means ground beef.

Julie Bove

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<penm...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Yes. I don't like my meat to be spicy. I did put pico de gallo on top.

Julie Bove

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"jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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It's not bland at all!

Julie Bove

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"jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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What brand do you buy that's bland. McCormick isn't bland.

U.S. Janet B.

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On Sun, 12 May 2019 19:13:12 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:

>
>"U.S. Janet B." <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 12 May 2019 00:32:32 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"U.S. Janet B." <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>news:um8fde51dj4i3jc0k...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 11 May 2019 20:12:55 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"U.S. Janet B." <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> snip
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Nope. If it has potatoes it is usually Con Papas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope won't do. Yes, carne con papas has potatoes,There are recipes
>>>>>> for carne molida with potatoes. You didn't read the recipe that I
>>>>>> posted for you, did you?
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, I did. But that is not the way it's made here.
>>>>
>>>> how did you prepare your molida?
>>>
>>>Ground beef, a little water and chili powder.
>>
>> Is that what they call molida in Washington? Here it would be ground
>> beef tacos or tostada. I thought you were doing something with more
>> elaborate seasonings.
>
>You can season it however you want. It just means ground beef.

hmmm. Very strange. It seems to me to take something and dumbing it
down. But you would know the way people around you refer to it.

Julie Bove

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"U.S. Janet B." <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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It's Spanish for ground beef.

U.S. Janet B.

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No

Cindy Hamilton

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May 13, 2019, 12:58:09 PM5/13/19
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It's not? That's what Google translate says.

Colloquially, of course, it might refer to a specific ground
beef preparation.

Cindy Hamilton

Julie Bove

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"U.S. Janet B." <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Yes it is. If you think it isn't, then how do you say "ground beef" in
Spanish?"

U.S. Janet B.

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May 14, 2019, 12:15:34 AM5/14/19
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On Mon, 13 May 2019 20:22:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
carne molida

Julie Bove

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"U.S. Janet B." <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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And that's exactly what I called it!

U.S. Janet B.

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On Mon, 13 May 2019 22:54:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:

>
>"U.S. Janet B." <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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snip
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You can season it however you want. It just means ground beef.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hmmm. Very strange. It seems to me to take something and dumbing it
>>>>>> down. But you would know the way people around you refer to it.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's Spanish for ground beef.
>>>>
>>>> No
>>>
>>>Yes it is. If you think it isn't, then how do you say "ground beef" in
>>>Spanish?"
>>
>> carne molida
>
>And that's exactly what I called it!

I apologize. I was expecting a more elaborate preparation of the
meat. I didn't realize that in some places a simple prep of ground
meat, water and chili powder was called carne molida. I don't mean
that in a sarcastic way, it just never occurred to me.
Janet US

Julie Bove

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"U.S. Janet B." <J...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Okay. Thanks!

Sqwertz

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On Fri, 10 May 2019 12:56:13 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:

> "Bolie Juve" <boli...@newhorizons.net> wrote in message
> news:1dy0aexnab7f2$.dlg@sqwertz.com...
>> On Thu, 9 May 2019 22:35:02 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> Hey, at least it's food related! Made with refried beans, carne molida,
>>> sharp cheddar, pico de gallo, iceberg lettuce and black olives. Yum!
>>
>> Nobody here eats carne molida and nobody here has ever even heard of
>> it. You won't see it on any restaurant menus here.
>
> You will here!
>
> http://www.elantojo.com/index.php
>
> Alas the meat choices are no longer listed and the Grill (not where I go)
> has changed the wording to ground beef,
>
> I do see that the Puerto Rican style has potatoes and green olives. Mine
> does not.
>
> https://www.modernmami.com/latino-latina-culture/puerto-rico/carne-molida-ground-beef-recipe/
>
> I also see recipes for Carne Molida Con Papas which is ground beef with
> potatoes.
>
> This place serves Carne Molida tacos. No potato.
>
> https://www.yelp.com/menu/barrios-fine-mexican-dishes-oklahoma-city/item/carne-molida-taco
>
> And here's a recipe for enchiladas:
>
> https://hispanickitchen.com/recipes/ground-beef-enchiladas/

Oh, and please remind me to change my Message-ID' when I masquerade
under a pseudonym.

Doh!

-sw

Sqwertz

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On Sat, 11 May 2019 03:28:23 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 5:43:31 PM UTC-4, Ray Abbitt wrote:
>> In article <1dy0aexnab7f2$.d...@sqwertz.com>,
>>>
>>>Nobody here eats carne molida and nobody here has ever even heard of
>>>it. You won't see it on any restaurant menus here.
>>
>> Actually almost everyone here eats carne molida (vegetrarians being the
>> exception). It actually means ground (or minced) beef. Although that
>> probably isn't what she meant. Probably some made up definition instead.
>>
>> -ray
>
> She means picadillo of some sort.

Ouch. Remind me to change my Message-ID's when I make up new
pseudonyms. :-)

-sw
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