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cshenk

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Jan 9, 2021, 6:53:26 PM1/9/21
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I make a vegetable broth roughly every 2 weeks. Nothing astounding. I
like to have it handy all the time and it comes from my desire to
reduce the food wastage in my home that so many North Americans are
known for.

Today's blend was exceptional.

*Nothing* used in this is actually gone 'bad'. It's just roots or
peels of things and that which has gone a bit wrinkly or rubbery.

Normally a lot of cabbage ends and such, this time it was turnip ends
and peels, onion ends and peels, carrot ends and peels, some corn that
got a bit too dry, and of all things, a fair amount of asparagus ends!
Oh and a fair amount of Broccoli where Don was trying to find room and
tucked in the freezer (unaware it has to be blanched first).

I add a little salt and nothing else but the veggies and water. The
Asparagus and Broccoli mix was exceptional. Those who eat just the
flower parts and toss the stems, may want to save them up and try
making a broth with them. If you get fresh asparagus often and chop
the ends off that may be woody, save those.

This time I had so many veggies in there, I got only about 2 quarts
after straining out all the veggies, but it's one of the better mixes.

GM

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Jan 9, 2021, 7:23:17 PM1/9/21
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"garbage ingredients" = "garbage broth"

Sounds like some shit a cartoon 1930's hobo would make in a tin can over an open fire...

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Greg

Bryan Simmons

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Jan 9, 2021, 7:33:45 PM1/9/21
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Hey, I wouldn't want anything to do with it, but if they enjoy it it is
certainly both virtuous and healthful.
>
> --
> Best
> Greg

--Bryan

Master Bruce

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Jan 9, 2021, 7:50:27 PM1/9/21
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Vegetarianism is indeed virtuous. Carnivores actually hate vegetarians
for their moral superiority.

GM

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Jan 9, 2021, 7:57:32 PM1/9/21
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Why would anyone make a broth - or *anything* - out of garbage pail scrapings...same as peeps making "chicken broth" outta chicken backs, etc....and then post it on a public forum...UCK...!!!

Ca - wole's "recipe" is "exceptional" alright -- "exceptional" in its *woefulness*...she'd be better off using a cheap bullion cube...

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Sqwertz

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Jan 9, 2021, 11:08:54 PM1/9/21
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On Sat, 09 Jan 2021 17:53:16 -0600, cshenk wrote:

> ...it was turnip ends... asparagus ends... fair amount of Broccoli ...

I smell farts.

-sw

Master Bruce

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Jan 9, 2021, 11:09:36 PM1/9/21
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On Sat, 9 Jan 2021 22:08:48 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
wrote:

>On Sat, 09 Jan 2021 17:53:16 -0600, cshenk wrote:
>
>> ...it was turnip ends... asparagus ends... fair amount of Broccoli ...
>
>I smell farts.

Open a window.

Hank Rogers

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Jan 9, 2021, 11:58:40 PM1/9/21
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Why? You love dutch ovens.


GM

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Jan 10, 2021, 12:49:34 AM1/10/21
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Wiki:

"A Dutch oven is a slang term for lying in bed with another person and pulling the covers over the person's head while flatulating, thereby creating an unpleasant situation in an enclosed space. This is done as a prank or by accident to one's sleeping partner..."

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Greg

Leo

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Jan 10, 2021, 3:10:11 AM1/10/21
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On 2021 Jan 9, , Master Bruce wrote
(in article<fojkvft3p2nt11p8b...@4ax.com>):

> Vegetarianism is indeed virtuous. Carnivores actually hate vegetarians
> for their moral superiority.

You are confusing hate with indifference.


Master Bruce

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Jan 10, 2021, 3:18:55 AM1/10/21
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On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 00:10:04 -0800, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
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I think I can tell the difference. It's kind of hard to miss in RFC :)

Cindy Hamilton

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Jan 10, 2021, 5:25:32 AM1/10/21
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On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 7:57:32 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:

> Why would anyone make a broth - or *anything* - out of garbage pail scrapings...same as peeps making "chicken broth" outta chicken backs, etc....and then post it on a public forum...UCK...!!!

Let's analyze this a moment. I have a stalk of asparagus. I cut off the bottom and
save it in the refrigerator to make stock. I steam the rest and have it right away.
What's the difference between the area above the cut and below the cut?
As far as I can see: tenderness.

Cindy Hamilton

Bryan Simmons

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Jan 10, 2021, 6:28:38 AM1/10/21
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Folks might dislike *preachy* vegetarians.

Winter's best friend is vegetarian. You should read my book.

************
On the drive back, they detoured in Columbia, Missouri's big university town,
and stopped at a pizza parlor. "Let's get the Masterpiece," said Winter. Chloe
said she thought that sounded great. "I'm so relieved," said Winter, "because
you always worry when a new person comes into the family, that there's
going to be something really weird about them, and vegetarian is weird."

"Don't listen to her, Chloe," said Eric. "Her best friend is a vegetarian."
************

--Bryan

Sheldon Martin

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Jan 10, 2021, 9:07:47 AM1/10/21
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On Sat, 09 Jan 2021 17:53:16 -0600, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:

>I make a vegetable broth roughly every 2 weeks. Nothing astounding. I
>like to have it handy all the time and it comes from my desire to
>reduce the food wastage in my home that so many North Americans are
>known for.
>
>Today's blend was exceptional.
>
>*Nothing* used in this is actually gone 'bad'. It's just roots or
>peels of things and that which has gone a bit wrinkly or rubbery.
>
>Normally a lot of cabbage ends and such, this time it was turnip ends
>and peels, onion ends and peels, carrot ends and peels, some corn that
>got a bit too dry, and of all things, a fair amount of asparagus ends!
>Oh and a fair amount of Broccoli where Don was trying to find room and
>tucked in the freezer (unaware it has to be blanched first).
>
>I add a little salt and nothing else but the veggies and water. The
>Asparagus and Broccoli mix was exceptional. Those who eat just the
>flower parts and toss the stems, may want to save them up and try
>making a broth with them.

Brocccoli stems are excellent peeled and diced into a salad, no
cooking required.
The woody ends of asparagus should be snapped off at the produce
department before weighing at the checkout.

cshenk

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Jan 10, 2021, 9:10:29 AM1/10/21
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LOL, not from broth.

As usual, GM tries to insinuate it's garbage veggies when it's not.
It's just root ends, ends of asparagus, peels from fresh veggies and a
mistakenly frozen broccoli (pre-blanching).

This sort of simple non-waste is good for the environment. Many of us
don't live where we have livestock to feed or room for a real compost
setup. Nor can we willy-nilly toss it out the window for the deer and
critters to eat, or just rot away.

Anyway, I rarely have mistreated broccoli or aspargus ends so added a
post that they make good additions for those who discard the stems.

If it's not clear, here is what happens.

Those same veggies I used, have the ends and peels put to the side and
then gathered as sent via diesel truck to another facility where they
are boiled and strained, then boxed and put on a truck to be delivered
eventually to your store where you buy it feeling all virtuous as you
toss out the fresher better _same_ peels in your trash.... and eat from
a lesser quality box you could have better made (and healthier) at home.

Sheldon Martin

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Jan 10, 2021, 9:18:57 AM1/10/21
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On Sat, 9 Jan 2021 16:33:42 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
<bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:

Makes far more sense tossing those trimmings out my window for the
critters... always gone before sunrise... none wasted, all expertly
composted by Bambi's mom. It's inane to waste fuel cooking the
nutrition out of those tough fiberous scraps, heat destroys vitamins.

Sheldon Martin

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Jan 10, 2021, 10:04:32 AM1/10/21
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What's virtuous are the canneries donating all those scraps to the pig
farmers... larger eateries do likewise. Farmers here who raise Black
Angus make the rounds to the eateries after hours with their pick up
trucks, they collect all the leavings from the bread baskets too, and
also day old donuts from Dunkin. Hospitals, prisons and other
commissaries also donate leftover foods to livestock farmers. Swine
aren't too proud to dine on potato and carrot peels. I toss veggie
peelings out my office window, deer arrive several times a day to
dumpster dive. Meat trimmings get tossed off my deck for the birds,
all that fat is what gets them through the winter. Skimmed fat from
soups go in cardboard milk containers in our freezer, mixed with some
bird seed makes a treat for the birds that winter over.

Gary

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Jan 10, 2021, 10:06:13 AM1/10/21
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cshenk wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 09 Jan 2021 17:53:16 -0600, cshenk wrote:
>>
>>> ...it was turnip ends... asparagus ends... fair amount of Broccoli
>>> ...
>>
>> I smell farts.
>>
>> -sw
>
> LOL, not from broth.
>
> As usual, GM tries to insinuate it's garbage veggies when it's not.
> It's just root ends, ends of asparagus, peels from fresh veggies and a
> mistakenly frozen broccoli (pre-blanching).
>
> This sort of simple non-waste is good for the environment. Many of us
> don't live where we have livestock to feed or room for a real compost
> setup. Nor can we willy-nilly toss it out the window for the deer and
> critters to eat, or just rot away.

I always save my veggie scraps in a freezer bag. I add them to a pot
when making chicken stock. Made another batch the other day.




Sheldon Martin

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Jan 10, 2021, 10:36:15 AM1/10/21
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First thing I do when quartering a chicken is to cut out the spine and
feed it to the crows, I'm not into spinal fluid broth.

>Ca - wole's "recipe" is "exceptional" alright -- "exceptional" in its *woefulness*...she'd be
>better off using a cheap bullion cube...

I don't make broth to save money, I use whole chickens minus their
spines, and I skim off the fat... chickens are cheap. I don't mind
making chicken salad from simmered chicken meat... actually quite good
diced and mixed with mayo, herbs, and spices. Mayo is made with
vegetable fat, much more healthful than chicken fat. The chicken fat
gets mixed with bird seed, frozen with other meat fat and fed to the
wintering birds. Skimmed fat from chicken broth is not schmaltz,
schmaltz is the pan drippings from roasted chicken. Fat skimmed from
simmering/boiling water hasn't reached a nearly high enough
temperature, and even if heated in a pan will taste awful because all
the flavor is in the cooking water.


Bryan Simmons

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Jan 10, 2021, 10:38:26 AM1/10/21
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On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 8:07:47 AM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>
> The woody ends of asparagus should be snapped off at the produce
> department before weighing at the checkout.

That is, essentially, theft, but everyone knows that you're a person of
shitty character.

--Bryan

Sheldon Martin

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Jan 10, 2021, 10:58:36 AM1/10/21
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The tough woody part at the bottom end of asparagus is not nearly as
flavorful as the tender portion of the stalk... may as well make apple
juice from apple tree prunings. Asparagus bunches are typically held
together with a wide rubberband, I move that ruberbad a bit closer to
the asparagus tips and with one fell swoop I slice all those bottoms
off at once. I save the bottoms and enjoy nibbling the last of the
tender part remaining. When I get to the tough woody flavorless
portion I toss those into the composter. I keep a very nice looking
SS compost bucket on my kitchen counter, when full I carry it out to
one of or composters, we have two, one by the veggie garden for what
remains after the growing season, the other is near our back door for
kitchen trimmings. A lot of greenery and trimmings from the veggie
garden gets tossed over the fence for the critters, like outer cabbage
leaves. Somehow critters know which vegetable plants are toxic and
leave those, like tomato, eggplant, those in the nightshade family.

Gary

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Jan 10, 2021, 11:24:15 AM1/10/21
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Sheldon Martin wrote:
> First thing I do when quartering a chicken is to cut out the spine and
> feed it to the crows, I'm not into spinal fluid broth.

lol...you baby. The crows are smarter than you. ;)

GM

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Jan 10, 2021, 11:36:24 AM1/10/21
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Cshenkie wouldn't know a woody asparagus stem from her hubbie's knobby old penis, lol...

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Bryan Simmons

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Jan 10, 2021, 11:42:47 AM1/10/21
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He knows enough to know that the spinal cord really does introduce a
slight off flavor, but not enough to figure out how to pull it out. I too
throw away the portion of the spine between the breasts, as there's
almost no meat on it, but I pull the spinal cord out of the neck, and
throw it in the pot.

--Bryan

Ophelia

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Jan 10, 2021, 11:57:21 AM1/10/21
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"Gary" wrote in message news:rtf550$b1o$1...@dont-email.me...
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Do you do it with potato peel too?




Ed Pawlowski

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Jan 10, 2021, 12:09:12 PM1/10/21
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If I grill a whole chicken I spatchcock it and toss the spine. IMO, it
is the best way to cook a chicken. Easy and good results every time.

dsi1

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Jan 10, 2021, 12:44:39 PM1/10/21
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Hank Rogers

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Jan 10, 2021, 1:01:54 PM1/10/21
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The finest garbage system in the universe Popeye!


Sqwertz

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Jan 10, 2021, 3:35:45 PM1/10/21
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On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 09:07:40 -0500, Sheldon Martin wrote:

> Brocccoli stems are excellent peeled and diced into a salad, no
> cooking required.
> The woody ends of asparagus should be snapped off at the produce
> department before weighing at the checkout.

Do you peel the oranges, too?

-sw

Ophelia

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Jan 10, 2021, 4:43:48 PM1/10/21
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My goodness:) That is a new one:)))))

cshenk

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Jan 10, 2021, 6:52:49 PM1/10/21
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Same concept. I just make veggie broth but no reason why they wouldn't
enhance a meat stock or bone stock!

I had intended to give a whirl at it with the chicken bones but Don's
so used to tossing fresh bones out fast (due to our dogs, got taken out
right away) that he didn't think of it.

Meantime, I'd made a rather nice meaty crockpot chicken and vegetable
stew yesterday so the trimmings went to the veggie broth along with the
other things mentioned.

I am out of fresh poultry stock now other than my Knorrs powdered and
some 'emergency supplies' of boxed. It tastes fairly good but is
higher in sodium than I like for Don. Has a lot of stabilizers and
stuff too but so much of what we make now is scratch, a little here and
there of such won't hurt us.

cshenk

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Jan 10, 2021, 7:03:18 PM1/10/21
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I don't because I like a clear broth, but I imagine it would work
(scrub them well first of course!).

cshenk

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Jan 10, 2021, 7:19:54 PM1/10/21
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Oh my! Interesting! There's a sort of 'loose hash browns' I had a few
times as a kid. It was grated potatoes but the outer part mostly. The
inner potato was saved for something else. Those were fried up just
like any other loose hash brown. Might seem odd to a northerner and I
don't recall seeing them when 'eating out'. Strictly a home food at
friend's houses.

Sometimes those same grated peels with some potato, were pressed into a
pie tin (with butter or a bit of lard) to form a crust and baked like
that then eggs and cream went in the center with bits of ham or
sausage, sometimes onion and/or mushrooms were added. Very similar to
a Quiche but with a potato base vs pastry.

Thanks! Haven't thought of that little childhood treat in years!

cshenk

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Jan 10, 2021, 7:30:25 PM1/10/21
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Oh I love them. It's only this bunch got frozen as is. Frozen
broccoli doesn't appeal to me or Don. I gather blanch first before
freezing but definately not frozen unbagged for 2 weeks.

LOL, I love Don but he has to be watched when stowing groceries
sometimes.

As to snapping off the ends of asparagus here, it's sold by the bunch,
not weight. They don't appreciate people making a mess like that
except for 1 item:

Corn in husk will have a bin so you can at least partly peel to check
it. Some will quickly husk it all right there. Sold by the ear, not
weight. If you were going to steam or boil it right away, it's
reasonable to do it that way.

Sheldon Martin

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Jan 10, 2021, 7:31:41 PM1/10/21
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On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 14:35:44 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
wrote:
Citrus isn't usually sold by weight. Although lemons are often sold
by weight here, in 2 1/2 pound bags.
Still I break off the bottoms of asparagus before they're weighed.
leafy vegetables like cabbage is sold by weight here but I break off
the outter leaves. Why should I pay for the inedible parts. Those
outer leaves are fed to livestock. Same as from my veggie garden,
deer don't feel slighted by eating the parts of plants that we don't
eat, they'll eat all the cabbage leaves that I toss over the fence.


cshenk

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Jan 10, 2021, 7:35:17 PM1/10/21
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It is if that it sold by weight. Here, it's sold by 'bunch' so
wouldn't matter except no one wants to have to move someone elses mess
out of the way to get at the vegetables. That's just rude to the other
customers and the store people to make them have to clean it up after
him.

Then again, it's dangerous to walk under his windows since he tosses
what he calls garbage out them onto his porch and yard. Love to get
hit by a flying raw chicken back eh?

Hank Rogers

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Jan 10, 2021, 7:50:58 PM1/10/21
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Popeye, when yoose do all this peeling and whacking up produce in
the stores, do yoose just throw all the garbage on the floor? Or do
you take it to their window and trow it out?




Sqwertz

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Jan 11, 2021, 1:02:17 AM1/11/21
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On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 19:31:23 -0500, Sheldon Martin wrote:

> On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 14:35:44 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 09:07:40 -0500, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>
>>> Brocccoli stems are excellent peeled and diced into a salad, no
>>> cooking required.
>>> The woody ends of asparagus should be snapped off at the produce
>>> department before weighing at the checkout.
>>
>>Do you peel the oranges, too?
>>
>>-sw
>
> Citrus isn't usually sold by weight.

Oranges are sold by weight 88% of the time. Lemons and limes, no.

You're a cheapskate snake.

-sw

Ophelia

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Jan 11, 2021, 5:20:01 AM1/11/21
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"cshenk" wrote in message
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Yes, thank you!


Gary

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Jan 11, 2021, 8:09:41 AM1/11/21
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Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Gary" wrote:
> I always save my veggie scraps in a freezer bag. I add them to a pot
> when making chicken stock. Made another batch the other day.
>
> ======
>
> ===
>
> Do you do it with potato peel too?

Not potato peels. I never peel potatoes. I eat them whole.

Veggie scraps are usually onion ends, carrot ends, the occasional tomato
end or a whole tomato if it starts going soft. Usually add a few whole
carrots too. Celery roots and leafy ends too. Some other veggie parts
too as used.




Ophelia

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Jan 11, 2021, 9:42:33 AM1/11/21
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"Gary" wrote in message news:rthimg$7pa$2...@dont-email.me...

Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Gary" wrote:
> I always save my veggie scraps in a freezer bag. I add them to a pot
> when making chicken stock. Made another batch the other day.
>
> ======
>
> ===
>
> Do you do it with potato peel too?

Not potato peels. I never peel potatoes. I eat them whole.

===

Hmm I have started to do that too!!! They are good:)

Veggie scraps are usually onion ends, carrot ends, the occasional tomato
end or a whole tomato if it starts going soft. Usually add a few whole
carrots too. Celery roots and leafy ends too. Some other veggie parts
too as used.

====

Thanks:))





songbird

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Jan 11, 2021, 10:31:21 AM1/11/21
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Ophelia wrote:
...
> Thanks:))

except you don't want to use or eat green potato peels.


songbird

Sheldon Martin

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Jan 11, 2021, 1:17:40 PM1/11/21
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On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 10:19:54 -0000, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

>
>
>"cshenk" wrote in message
>news:G76dnbhPSfEhCGbC...@giganews.com...
>
>Ophelia wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Gary" wrote in message news:rtf550$b1o$1...@dont-email.me...
>> cshenk wrote:
>> > Sqwertz wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Sat, 09 Jan 2021 17:53:16 -0600, cshenk wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > ...it was turnip ends... asparagus ends... fair amount of
>> > > > Broccoli ...
>> > >
>> > > I smell farts.
>> > >
>> > > -sw
>> >
>> > LOL, not from broth.
>> >
>> > As usual, GM tries to insinuate it's garbage veggies when it's not.
>> > It's just root ends, ends of asparagus, peels from fresh veggies
>> > and a mistakenly frozen broccoli (pre-blanching).
>> >
>> > This sort of simple non-waste is good for the environment. Many of
>> > us don't live where we have livestock to feed or room for a real
>> > compost setup. Nor can we willy-nilly toss it out the window for
>> > the deer and critters to eat, or just rot away.
>>
>> I always save my veggie scraps in a freezer bag. I add them to a pot
>> when making chicken stock. Made another batch the other day.
>>
>> ======
>>
>> Do you do it with potato peel too?
>
>I don't because I like a clear broth, but I imagine it would work
>(scrub them well first of course!).
>
>====
>
> Yes, thank you!

If you had herds of deer you'd think differently.

Ophelia

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Jan 11, 2021, 3:01:00 PM1/11/21
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"songbird" wrote in message news:v76uch-...@anthive.com...
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Yes!!! Never green!!!!!!!!!!

John Kuthe

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Jan 11, 2021, 3:11:07 PM1/11/21
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On Monday, January 11, 2021 at 1:17:40 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 10:19:54 -0000, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
...
> >
> >I don't because I like a clear broth, but I imagine it would work
> >(scrub them well first of course!).
> >
> >====
> >
> > Yes, thank you!
> If you had herds of deer you'd think differently.

Not everyone has herds of deers, Sheldon.

John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

dsi1

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Jan 11, 2021, 4:14:40 PM1/11/21
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It is a new one alright. Also new to me is the occupation of the culturally British island of Guernsey by the Germans during WWII. The potato peel pie was in response to the terrible food shortages during the occupation. I learned about this from a movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HDMxygGsC0

Bryan Simmons

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Jan 11, 2021, 5:58:55 PM1/11/21
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Herds of deer. "Deers" only applies to different species of deers. Deers of
different species do not herd together, and I don't think that there are any
deers other than white tails in New York.
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

--Bryan

Bryan Simmons

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Jan 11, 2021, 6:11:27 PM1/11/21
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Man, I used to stock the book that had a shot from that movie. Every week
that the book was not discontinued made me happy. The cover photo was
entrancing. Talk about an ideal of female attractiveness. It really pushed
my buttons.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/The-Guernsey-Literary-and-Potato-Peel-Pie-Society-Movie-Tie-In-Edition-9781984801814/965534534

--Bryan

Hank Rogers

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Jan 11, 2021, 6:38:34 PM1/11/21
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Or jewish delis, or free full meals at gin mills, or promiscuous
aunts, or ...






cshenk

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Jan 11, 2021, 7:08:04 PM1/11/21
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I use a fair amount of cabbage so cabbage root part will be in most of
mine. Same mostly on potatoes, eat with skin on.

Ophelia

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I can't thank you enough for posting that! My work was in Social History
and I have never seen that:)) Thank you very much:)))

dsi1

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Jan 12, 2021, 6:18:53 AM1/12/21
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You were obsessing over the book cover. That's interesting. The historical part was interesting but the story line was totally chick-flick/Lifetime TV material.

dsi1

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Jan 12, 2021, 6:30:58 AM1/12/21
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The war must have been hell for those islanders. The Germans thought the island had strategic value and heavily fortified the beaches which would make a British invasion costly. My guess is that the Brits thought getting Guernsey and Jersey back was just not worth the cost. The Germans were probably sorry for spending all their resources to prevent an invasion that nobody was much interested in.

Ophelia

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Yes:(


Gary

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Jan 12, 2021, 8:56:39 AM1/12/21
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Bryan Simmons wrote:
> Herds of deer. "Deers" only applies to different species of deers. Deers of
> different species do not herd together, and I don't think that there are any
> deers other than white tails in New York.

Sheldon should import a small herd of antelope. They could play with the
local deer in his giant back yard.




Janet

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Jan 12, 2021, 11:04:40 AM1/12/21
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In article <KqmdnZqtqqjEdWHC...@giganews.com>, cshenk1
@cox.net says...
I've never bought a cabbage that still had a root attached.

Janet UK


cshenk

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Jan 13, 2021, 7:09:03 PM1/13/21
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Humm, you might call it the core. The actual root below, yes is
removed.

cshenk

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Jan 13, 2021, 7:11:00 PM1/13/21
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Snicker

Bryan Simmons

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Jan 13, 2021, 7:36:43 PM1/13/21
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I don't know that my angle is "interesting." I'm just obsessed with female bodies,
and especially female faces, the more feminine looking the better. The cover
photo conveys an image of a woman who is ready to consent to a kiss. The book
is marketed to women, and I gather that the male actor is also considered very
attractive to women. The cover photo is hot. It pushes my buttons.

--Bryan

Bryan Simmons

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Jan 13, 2021, 7:38:26 PM1/13/21
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But Sheldon is full of discouraging words.

--Bryan

Hank Rogers

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Jan 13, 2021, 7:57:46 PM1/13/21
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He's full of shit.


Bryan Simmons

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Jan 13, 2021, 8:14:52 PM1/13/21
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But his skies are not cloudy all day.

--Bryan

songbird

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Jan 13, 2021, 11:23:11 PM1/13/21
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Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> >
>> > But Sheldon is full of discouraging words.
>
> But his skies are not cloudy all day.

Gnome, Gnome on da range, where the beers and
the antifaropes play.


songbird (or is that derange?

Ophelia

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Jan 14, 2021, 7:55:45 AM1/14/21
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"songbird" wrote in message news:3gt4dh-...@anthive.com...
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Janet

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Jan 14, 2021, 8:48:55 AM1/14/21
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In article <c8udnUnoUMkIFmLC...@giganews.com>, cshenk1
@cox.net says...
Core or stem, yes.

Janet UK

Sheldon Martin

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Jan 14, 2021, 11:08:23 AM1/14/21
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Raw cabbage cores are a cook's treat... pare away the outer part where
the cabbage leaves were attached, that part is bitter but the center
part is sweet and tender... we call that part the cabbage heart. There
are several parts of vegetables that are very good that many don't
think are edible; peeled broccoli stems eaten raw are excellent. I
feed the tough outer cabbage leaves to the deer but I reserve the
hearts for me.. cabbage grows very well here, typically 10-15 pounds.
One of my favorite veggies:
https://www.growveg.com/guides/how-to-grow-bulb-fennel/
I use the feathery fronds for a seafood stock, the thick stems make a
wonderful rack on an outdoor grill for cooking fish. The actual bulbs
are a fine cook's treat.

cshenk

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Jan 14, 2021, 11:17:51 PM1/14/21
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No problem. Sometimes I am not as accurate in expression as I should
be. Sorry about that. None of us are perfect!


cshenk

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Jan 14, 2021, 11:22:26 PM1/14/21
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I do like Fennel bulbs and use the fronds mostly in soups. The
'Cabbage Heart' is possibly what most toss and I use for vegetable
broth (one of several components).

I rarely get American Broccoli so no need to peel the stems. Look up
Gai Lan and you can see why no need to peel.


cshenk

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Jan 14, 2021, 11:23:28 PM1/14/21
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+1 to all of you!

dsi1

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Jan 15, 2021, 4:22:47 AM1/15/21
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On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 1:53:26 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> I make a vegetable broth roughly every 2 weeks. Nothing astounding. I
> like to have it handy all the time and it comes from my desire to
> reduce the food wastage in my home that so many North Americans are
> known for.
>
> Today's blend was exceptional.
>
> *Nothing* used in this is actually gone 'bad'. It's just roots or
> peels of things and that which has gone a bit wrinkly or rubbery.
>
> Normally a lot of cabbage ends and such, this time it was turnip ends
> and peels, onion ends and peels, carrot ends and peels, some corn that
> got a bit too dry, and of all things, a fair amount of asparagus ends!
> Oh and a fair amount of Broccoli where Don was trying to find room and
> tucked in the freezer (unaware it has to be blanched first).
>
> I add a little salt and nothing else but the veggies and water. The
> Asparagus and Broccoli mix was exceptional. Those who eat just the
> flower parts and toss the stems, may want to save them up and try
> making a broth with them. If you get fresh asparagus often and chop
> the ends off that may be woody, save those.
>
> This time I had so many veggies in there, I got only about 2 quarts
> after straining out all the veggies, but it's one of the better mixes.

My 7 year old granddaughter says she won't eat meat because it's from animal. It's a problem keeping her fed. She's such a skinny little thing. Mostly she likes rice and seaweed. My daughter got a smoothie machine and some peanut powder to try to beef up her calories but this could be a problem. My other granddaughters are pretty well fed and healthy.
My high school friend is also losing weight at an alarming rate. That guy will only eat fish and chicken and is deathly afraid of oil. Perhaps I should get him a smoothie machine and peanut powder. I even recommended that he take up smoking weed. That guy would grow plants during high school. My guess is that most of my friends did too. When we graduated and went to college, they all went into the school of Agriculture. I thought that was plain weird.

Master Bruce

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Jan 15, 2021, 4:32:00 AM1/15/21
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On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 01:22:43 -0800 (PST), dsi1
<dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 1:53:26 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>> I make a vegetable broth roughly every 2 weeks. Nothing astounding. I
>> like to have it handy all the time and it comes from my desire to
>> reduce the food wastage in my home that so many North Americans are
>> known for.
>>
>> Today's blend was exceptional.
>>
>> *Nothing* used in this is actually gone 'bad'. It's just roots or
>> peels of things and that which has gone a bit wrinkly or rubbery.
>>
>> Normally a lot of cabbage ends and such, this time it was turnip ends
>> and peels, onion ends and peels, carrot ends and peels, some corn that
>> got a bit too dry, and of all things, a fair amount of asparagus ends!
>> Oh and a fair amount of Broccoli where Don was trying to find room and
>> tucked in the freezer (unaware it has to be blanched first).
>>
>> I add a little salt and nothing else but the veggies and water. The
>> Asparagus and Broccoli mix was exceptional. Those who eat just the
>> flower parts and toss the stems, may want to save them up and try
>> making a broth with them. If you get fresh asparagus often and chop
>> the ends off that may be woody, save those.
>>
>> This time I had so many veggies in there, I got only about 2 quarts
>> after straining out all the veggies, but it's one of the better mixes.
>
>My 7 year old granddaughter says she won't eat meat because it's from animal.

Be proud of her.

Graham

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Jan 15, 2021, 3:05:16 PM1/15/21
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On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 01:22:43 -0800 (PST), dsi1 wrote:


>
> My high school friend is also losing weight at an alarming rate.

He might be seriously ill!

Dave Smith

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Jan 15, 2021, 4:51:07 PM1/15/21
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That is always a possibility. It may or may not have been a factor with
my recent weight loss. I started following the Heart and Stroke diet
plan which had one beef dish every three weeks, chicken about once a
week, a couple fish dishes per week and the rest are vegetarian... also
very low salt and low fat. The meat and dish portions were all very
small. I was losing 1-1/2 lb. per day. I eventually plateaued. I gained
a couple pounds back after Christmas because I was eating desserts and
more meat. We did vegetarian last night and the night before and I
dropped two pounds.


Personally, I have found a semi vegetarian diet to be a good way to lose
weight, though I cut out good desserts and pastry treats. I know a fww
vegetarians who don't seem to enjoy that benefit.

dsi1

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Jan 15, 2021, 6:42:30 PM1/15/21
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Depending on how one looks at things, one might see her as a principled little girl. Either that, or she has an eating disorder. Guess how I see it.

dsi1

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Jan 15, 2021, 7:10:05 PM1/15/21
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That's a good point. I shall inquire about this. My guess is that he's mostly stressed out and depressed.
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