strange advertising sequence

[Dave Smith]

I am sitting here watching Jeopardy and the first commercial break an ad
for Coke Zero. There was a second, maybe a third commercial, I wasn't
paying close attention, and then there was a Pepsi commercial. I always
thought those guys went for exclusive deals.

[Graham]

Perhaps the producer couldn't taste any difference between them!

[GM]

It's not 1954, and "Jeopardy" is *not* "You Bet Your Life - brought to you by DESOTO...!!!"

[ 10 - second Groucho/DeSoto clip ]:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoUQNrA9KDg


Old Smit' is turning into a *really* useless OAP, lol...

--
GM

[dsi1]

Coke Zero has a distinctive cinnamon taste to it. It's a little weird but it could be the taste of colas in the future.

[Dave Smith]

I will have to take your word for that. I don't remember ever trying it.
Other then the occasional ginger beer, I almost never drink pop. I just
thought that it was really odd to have Coke and Pepsi ads back to back.
I didn't think that either one would share sponsorship with their number
one competitor.

[Paul]

On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 20:02:18 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:

"Could be"? I thought you knew these things.

[dsi1]

Indeed I do. Coke Zero could definitely be the taste of colas of the future.

[Mary]

On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 22:39:10 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>

wrote:

>On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 7:17:49 PM UTC-10, Paul wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 20:02:18 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
>> wrote:
>> >On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 1:42:02 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >> I am sitting here watching Jeopardy and the first commercial break an ad
>> >> for Coke Zero. There was a second, maybe a third commercial, I wasn't
>> >> paying close attention, and then there was a Pepsi commercial. I always
>> >> thought those guys went for exclusive deals.
>> >
>> >Coke Zero has a distinctive cinnamon taste to it. It's a little weird but it could be the taste of colas in the future.
>> "Could be"? I thought you knew these things.
>
>Indeed I do. Coke Zero could definitely be the taste of colas of the future.

Now you're talking.

[Mary]

Michael's an excellent example of American ignorance and explains how
Americans were able to vote for the Trump clown. The deplorables are
poorly educated, poorly informed, have never been out of their own
country and are easily influenced. Yet they do have the right to vote.
And there you are: Donald Trump. I can't wait for the next American
election. May I suggest Sylvester Stallone? :)

[Mork]

Ghe? Uhm, can you go into more detail? I don't get it

[Jonnie]

[Jonah]

Uhm Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

[Leonard Blaisdell]

Don't you just hate qualifiers? Covid masks may prevent Covid. Covid
vaccines may prevent Covid. Joe Biden may be pulling a
tail-wags-the-dog scenario in Ukraine to hide his blunders at home.
You may be sane. Stuff like that.

[Zebediah]

On 3 Feb 2022 04:06:05 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell

Blunders at home? I may be sane?

[Zebediah]

We Dutch have a saying about froggers like yoos, which is KILL YOURSELF
you loser. no friends no real job no money no sex and no hope for the
future. Loser. Ghe Ghe Ghe.

[Zebediah]

[Michael Trew]

On 2/1/2022 22:53, GM wrote:
> Graham wrote:
>
>> On 2022-02-01 4:41 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>> I am sitting here watching Jeopardy and the first commercial break an ad
>>> for Coke Zero. There was a second, maybe a third commercial, I wasn't
>>> paying close attention, and then there was a Pepsi commercial. I always
>>> thought those guys went for exclusive deals.
>> Perhaps the producer couldn't taste any difference between them!
>
> It's not 1954, and "Jeopardy" is *not* "You Bet Your Life - brought to you by DESOTO...!!!"
>
> [ 10 - second Groucho/DeSoto clip ]:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoUQNrA9KDg

Neat clip! I would watch broadcast TV again if only shows had one (or a
few) sponsor(s) again. Soon, there will be more commercials than
programming.

Honestly though, I thought the same as Dave. I was relatively certain
that Coke or Pepsi usually buy out the rights in many cases. It's rare
to find a restaurant that serves either. Many gas stations only serve
one or the other.

[jmcquown]

Commercials/ads are purchased by agencies who represent the brands. The
actual television show being aired doesn't have anything to do with who
was buying advertising time on the same network in the same time slot.
It shouldn't be surprising. They are competing with each other and are
trying to reach a target audience. In this case, it was people who
watch Jeopardy.

Jill

[jmcquown]

I wouldn't know about the taste of either, either. But they aren't
"sharing" anything. Coke And Pepsi's ad agencies both bought air-time
to run spots during the show to compete with each other. They figure a
lot of people watch Jeopardy so that's when they bought the time slots.
It's not a difficult concept to grasp.

Isn't the Superbowl coming up this Sunday 2/6? They'll likely have
competing ads during the "Big Game", too, if their respective agencies
bought some air-time.

Jill

[jmcquown]

On 2/3/2022 2:42 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 2/1/2022 22:53, GM wrote:
>>   Graham wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-02-01 4:41 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> I am sitting here watching Jeopardy and the first commercial break
>>>> an ad
>>>> for Coke Zero. There was a second, maybe a third commercial, I wasn't
>>>> paying close attention, and then there was a Pepsi commercial.  I
>>>> always
>>>> thought those guys went for exclusive deals.
>>> Perhaps the producer couldn't taste any difference between them!
>>

Fery cryin' out loud. Television producers for individual shows have
nothing to do with it.

> Honestly though, I thought the same as Dave.  I was relatively certain
> that Coke or Pepsi usually buy out the rights in many cases.  It's rare
> to find a restaurant that serves either.  Many gas stations only serve
> one or the other.

You're comparing Apples and Oranges. Placing their products exclusively
in chain-type restaurants (e.g. McDonald's vs. Burger King) or gas
stations is not the same thing. Those businesses contract with
suppliers to provide the "fountain drinks" either from Coke or Pepsi.
At the end of the contract they can always change suppliers. They go
with what their customers seem to prefer.

It is not the same thing as buying television or radio advertising time.
Advertising agencies *buy* air-time on behalf of their clients in
order to compete. They figure if someone is going to buy soda pop, they
might as well book spots during the same television show when there is a
high viewing audience/perhaps a target market during that time slot.

Jill

[Dave Smith]

I don't think it matters a whole heck of a lot who is actually buying
the air time. Sponsorship is a big thing for some of those TV shows and
the advertising companies that sign the air time deals. I just thought
it was odd to see these two major competitors going almost back to back.
They are each other's top rivals. When they sell to restaurants and
entertainment complexes they usually got for exclusive rights.

[jmcquown]

It's not the same thing with restaurants and entertainment venues.

Jill

[Desmond]

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 2/4/2022 11:12 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

Our local Spectrum news station has a lot of lawyers advertising. Very
common to have two back to back on a break. Pay nothing unless we win.
Call any time, even from the scene. Call me on my cell. We want to
win! Over and over every day.

[jmcquown]

It's the same thing on TV if you ever watch court shows on television.
You get tons of back to back "personal injury lawyers" ads. All from
different firms.

If you ever watch MeTV or Antenna TV (old TV shows) you'll see back to
back ads for Medicare supplement plans. From different companies, back
to back. Also a lot of ads for "final life insurance" from different
insurance carriers. Heh.

Advertising agencies *buy* the airtime on TV and radio to try to fit a
specific market for their product at the same time the competitors will
be advertising. To be aired during specific programs.

I mentioned earlier the Superbowl is on Sunday. If the agencies for
both Coca-Cola and Pepsi paid for those time slots, they will show ads
for both. Maybe not back-to-back. It will depend on who paid the most
for which time slot. Maybe ads for Beer will win (again.) :)

Jill

[Dave Smith]

On 2022-02-04 1:12 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 2/4/2022 12:35 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>> Our local Spectrum news station has a lot of lawyers advertising.
>> Very common to have two back to back on a break.  Pay nothing unless
>> we win. Call any time, even from the scene.  Call me on my cell.  We
>> want to win! Over and over every day.
>
> It's the same thing on TV if you ever watch court shows on television.
> You get tons of back to back "personal injury lawyers" ads.  All from
> different firms.

Personal injury lawyers are a breed of their own. My son had dealings
with one of them a few years ago. We was served a summons because
someone with the same name was being sued by their client. My son lived
in St.Catharines and the address on the summons was for a guy in
Hamilton. He went on line and in a matter of seconds he found the guys
address. He called them up and told them they had the wrong guy but
their attitude was that he was their guy and they were pursuing it. They
wanted him to give them personal information. He refused to do that, not
wanting to give them information they could then use to fill in their
gaps.

Lucky for him a co-workers father was a lawyer who acted on his behalf
pro bono.

[Jeßus]

On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 14:02:08 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:


>Personal injury lawyers are a breed of their own. My son had dealings
>with one of them a few years ago. We was served a summons because
>someone with the same name was being sued by their client. My son lived
>in St.Catharines and the address on the summons was for a guy in
>Hamilton. He went on line and in a matter of seconds he found the guys
>address. He called them up and told them they had the wrong guy but
>their attitude was that he was their guy and they were pursuing it. They
>wanted him to give them personal information. He refused to do that, not
>wanting to give them information they could then use to fill in their
>gaps.

Heh. I would love to be involved with something like that. I would
have played them along for as long as possible, all the while denying
I was their guy, of course.

[Dave Smith]

People here disapproved of my suggestion about that. There is a two year
limit on initiating an action and time was running out. The onus was on
them to prove that my son was the person who was involved in the crash
with their client. They would have had the drive name and address of the
driver and his driver license number. They guy had a Hamilton address
at the time, and my son was living in Toronto and has a different
license number. My son could have shown his license and other supporting
documents that would shown he was not involved.

The best part was that their client would be present and my son would be
able to talk to him and let him know that he had told his lawyer they
had the wrong guy and they went ahead against the wrong person and that
it was now too late to go after the real guy... and how easy it had been
to locate him. So their client could have sued them for their
incompetence.

[Oscar]

[Gary]

On 2/4/2022 10:44 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> Isn't the Superbowl coming up this Sunday 2/6?  They'll likely have
> competing ads during the "Big Game", too, if their respective agencies
> bought some air-time.

Not this Sunday (tomorrow). Superbowl is next week, Feb 13th.

Olympics this week. Watched some of the opening ceremony last night but
it was fairly yawnable. I do love watching many of the winter sports
though...not so much the Summer Olympics.

[Dave Smith]

I have no plans to watch the Olympics. I am glad to hear that several
countries have opted not to send any government representatives. I
don't think they every should have selected China to host the games.
There are too many human rights abuses. I think all Canadians should
boycott the games out of respect for"the two Michaels" , two Canadians
were were arrested and held them on bogus charges for two and a half
years after Canada arrested and held Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou for
extradition to the US. They were released only after a deal was reached
with the US to drop the charges against her. No one should travel to a
country where there is risk of being abducted by the government and held
hostage like that.

[Graham]

On 2022-02-05 7:46 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2022-02-05 7:19 a.m., Gary wrote:
>> On 2/4/2022 10:44 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> Isn't the Superbowl coming up this Sunday 2/6?  They'll likely have
>>> competing ads during the "Big Game", too, if their respective
>>> agencies bought some air-time.
>>
>> Not this Sunday (tomorrow). Superbowl is next week, Feb 13th.
>>
>> Olympics this week. Watched some of the opening ceremony last night
>> but it was fairly yawnable. I do love watching many of the winter
>> sports though...not so much the Summer Olympics.
>>
>
>
> I have no plans to watch the Olympics.

Neither have I! It's time they were stopped altogether!

[Cindy Hamilton]

Why?

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Jeßus]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 07:19:19 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>On 2/4/2022 10:44 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> Isn't the Superbowl coming up this Sunday 2/6?  They'll likely have
>> competing ads during the "Big Game", too, if their respective agencies
>> bought some air-time.
>
>Not this Sunday (tomorrow). Superbowl is next week, Feb 13th.
>
>Olympics this week. Watched some of the opening ceremony last night but
>it was fairly yawnable.

As always. Maybe you should try youtube instead.

>I do love watching many of the winter sports
>though...not so much the Summer Olympics.

Absolutely zero interest in it here, in fact I see it as a waste of
taxpayers money at this point.

[Hank Rogers]

Because they don't have pickleball?

[Jeßus]

On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:24:22 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2022-02-04 5:15 p.m., Je?us wrote:
>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 14:02:08 -0500, Dave Smith
>> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Personal injury lawyers are a breed of their own. My son had dealings
>>> with one of them a few years ago. We was served a summons because
>>> someone with the same name was being sued by their client. My son lived
>>> in St.Catharines and the address on the summons was for a guy in
>>> Hamilton. He went on line and in a matter of seconds he found the guys
>>> address. He called them up and told them they had the wrong guy but
>>> their attitude was that he was their guy and they were pursuing it. They
>>> wanted him to give them personal information. He refused to do that, not
>>> wanting to give them information they could then use to fill in their
>>> gaps.
>>
>> Heh. I would love to be involved with something like that. I would
>> have played them along for as long as possible, all the while denying
>> I was their guy, of course.
>>
>
>People here disapproved of my suggestion about that.

Some always would.

>There is a two year
>limit on initiating an action and time was running out. The onus was on
>them to prove that my son was the person who was involved in the crash
>with their client. They would have had the drive name and address of the
>driver and his driver license number. They guy had a Hamilton address
>at the time, and my son was living in Toronto and has a different
>license number. My son could have shown his license and other supporting
>documents that would shown he was not involved.
>
>The best part was that their client would be present and my son would be
>able to talk to him and let him know that he had told his lawyer they
>had the wrong guy and they went ahead against the wrong person and that
>it was now too late to go after the real guy... and how easy it had been
>to locate him. So their client could have sued them for their
>incompetence.

Haha, I love it. Sorry for the poor client though. I've had limited
experience using lawyers, but my experience hasn't been great so far.
I recently needed a contract checked and I found them to be generally
incompetent, and that using two firms. Both firms in hindsight seem to
be lawyer factories and the lawyers employed are probably not
particularly motivated to be diligent.

[jmcquown]

On 2/5/2022 7:19 AM, Gary wrote:
> On 2/4/2022 10:44 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> Isn't the Superbowl coming up this Sunday 2/6?  They'll likely have
>> competing ads during the "Big Game", too, if their respective agencies
>> bought some air-time.
>
> Not this Sunday (tomorrow). Superbowl is next week, Feb 13th.
>

It doesn't really matter which weekend the Superbowl will air. I'm
trying to explain why ads for competing products are booked in specific
time slots back to back.

Jill

[Dave Smith]

Aside from the political issues, there is the enormous cost. Cities have
to spend a fortune lobbying for the chance to host the games and the
pitches generally involve building all sorts of specialized facilities.
While there may be a number of jobs in construction and for hotels and
restaurants for a couple weeks, the cities end up paying off those
projects for decades and also bear the cost of maintenance.

Perhaps they should set up a permanent facility somewhere. That would
save a fortune on building costs, and possibly even more in the cost of
lobbying.

[Dave Smith]

I am aware of the way advertizes book their air time. I was just
surprised that Coke and Pepsi would have almost back to back ads on the
same program. They have a very intense rivalry.

[Dave Smith]

I am not sure the client would lose out on that deal. He might be
able to get a better settlement out of suing the injury lawyer than he
would have from the guy with the same name as my son. Since they were
suing on his behalf they had presented a claim that they thought was
appropriate. and since it was their incompetence that cost him the suit,
he should be able to go after them for the money.... plus damages for
their negligence and incompetence.

I also suggested he launch an investigation into who accessed his driver
license information. I suspect that the process server may have been a
part timer with a law enforcement day job and accessed MTO records
improperly. They record every search of the records and could easily
determine who accessed it. It is one thing to try to trace a person
with the information from their records. It is another matter to go on a
fishing expedition.

Don't get mad. Get even.

[Stan]

The Chinese are also committing genocide. They're the Nazis of our
time. And the population is too dumb and obedient to do something
about it.

[Stan]

Graham doesn't like the Olympics. Ok, that's it! Let's stop them
altogether!

[%]

On 2/5/2022 2:13 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> Don't get mad. Get even.
>

If all else fails throw trash on their property!

[Graham]

On 2022-02-05 12:13 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:

>
> I also suggested he launch an investigation into who accessed his driver
> license information.  I suspect that the process server may have been a
> part timer with  a law enforcement day job and accessed MTO records
> improperly.  They record every search of the records and could easily
> determine who accessed it.  It is one thing to try to trace a  person
> with the information from their records. It is another matter to go on a
> fishing expedition.
>
> Don't get mad. Get even.
>

As he was the wrong person, couldn't he have just ignored the papers
and pitched them into the garbage bin?

[Graham]

On 2022-02-05 11:57 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2022-02-05 11:50 a.m., Graham wrote:
>> On 2022-02-05 7:46 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2022-02-05 7:19 a.m., Gary wrote:
>
>>>> Olympics this week. Watched some of the opening ceremony last night
>>>> but it was fairly yawnable. I do love watching many of the winter
>>>> sports though...not so much the Summer Olympics.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have no plans to watch the Olympics.
>>
>> Neither have I! It's time they were stopped altogether!
>
> Aside from the political issues, there is the enormous cost.

AIUI things changed after the LA games that made a huge profit that the
local organizers refused to turn o0ver to the Olympic organization. Now,
the Olympics gets all the proceeds of the TV and other rights, doling
out some of it to the successful bidders.
The Calgary games maintain that they made $200 million while
conveniently forgetting that the Provincial and Federal govts chipped in
that same amount!

Cities have
> to spend a fortune lobbying for the chance to host the games  and the
> pitches generally involve building all sorts of specialized facilities.
> While there may be a number of jobs in construction and for hotels and
> restaurants for a couple weeks, the cities end up paying off those
> projects for decades and also bear the cost of maintenance.
>

The ONLY ones to really benefit financially are those who construct the
facilities.

[Stan]

We Dutch have a saying about froggers like yoos, which is KILL YOURSELF
you loser. no friends no real job no money no sex and no hope for the
future. Loser. Ghe Ghe Ghe.

[Stan]

[Stan]

[Stan]

[Graham]

Can't you see what an appalling waste of money they have become?

[Jeßus]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 14:13:43 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2022-02-05 1:19 p.m., Je?us wrote:
>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:24:22 -0500, Dave Smith
>> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>>> The best part was that their client would be present and my son would be
>>> able to talk to him and let him know that he had told his lawyer they
>>> had the wrong guy and they went ahead against the wrong person and that
>>> it was now too late to go after the real guy... and how easy it had been
>>> to locate him. So their client could have sued them for their
>>> incompetence.
>>
>> Haha, I love it. Sorry for the poor client though. I've had limited
>> experience using lawyers, but my experience hasn't been great so far.
>> I recently needed a contract checked and I found them to be generally
>> incompetent, and that using two firms. Both firms in hindsight seem to
>> be lawyer factories and the lawyers employed are probably not
>> particularly motivated to be diligent.
>
> I am not sure the client would lose out on that deal. He might be
>able to get a better settlement out of suing the injury lawyer than he
>would have from the guy with the same name as my son. Since they were
>suing on his behalf they had presented a claim that they thought was
>appropriate. and since it was their incompetence that cost him the suit,
>he should be able to go after them for the money.... plus damages for
>their negligence and incompetence.

I did consider that, but I'm unsure how such things are handled in
Canada. In Australia, doing that would be (at least initially) and
expensive process.

>I also suggested he launch an investigation into who accessed his driver
>license information. I suspect that the process server may have been a
>part timer with a law enforcement day job and accessed MTO records
>improperly. They record every search of the records and could easily
>determine who accessed it. It is one thing to try to trace a person
>with the information from their records. It is another matter to go on a
>fishing expedition.
>
>Don't get mad. Get even.

Yes. And maybe even get a laugh out of it.

[Jeßus]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 13:57:53 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2022-02-05 11:50 a.m., Graham wrote:
>> On 2022-02-05 7:46 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2022-02-05 7:19 a.m., Gary wrote:
>
>>>> Olympics this week. Watched some of the opening ceremony last night
>>>> but it was fairly yawnable. I do love watching many of the winter
>>>> sports though...not so much the Summer Olympics.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have no plans to watch the Olympics.
>>
>> Neither have I! It's time they were stopped altogether!
>
>Aside from the political issues, there is the enormous cost. Cities have
>to spend a fortune lobbying for the chance to host the games and the
>pitches generally involve building all sorts of specialized facilities.

Yes, it's a massive waste of money, generally speaking. So many
interests trying to exploit the process and so many Olympics have been
nothing but a money pit for the hosts.

And what % of the population are really interested beyond 15 second
sound bites on the 'news'?

>While there may be a number of jobs in construction and for hotels and
>restaurants for a couple weeks, the cities end up paying off those
>projects for decades and also bear the cost of maintenance.

>Perhaps they should set up a permanent facility somewhere. That would
>save a fortune on building costs, and possibly even more in the cost of
>lobbying.

From my POV, that would be a good solution. And make the whole thing
self-funding. No government assistance. By that, I mean the Olympics
themselves. Not the athletes, they need government support.

[Dave Smith]

No, he could not just ignore them. He had been served with the summons
so it would have been deemed to have been served. If he didn't show up
in court it would go ahead in absentia and there could be a big
settlement against him.

I thought that he did the right thing by contacting the vultures to let
know they had the wrong person. I don't blame him for refusing to give
them is date of birth. i suppose he could have told them the address he
found for the guy, which he was able to Google, but he wasn't being paid
to find the guy they were suing.

He gave them the opportunity to correct their error and they got snotty
with them. If it had been me and and they had treated me like that I
would have waited until a day or two before the statute of limitations
was up and it would have been too late for them to correct it.

[Ricardo]

It must be worth it for certain countries. Either financially or for
marketing reasons or to pretend they're not an ugly fascist regime,
like the Chinese. Maybe it's good for tourism?

[Ricardo]

[Umberto]

Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my not frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

[Hank Rogers]

I guess he wasn't as vindictive as you.

[Michael Trew]

On 2/4/2022 13:12, jmcquown wrote:
> On 2/4/2022 12:35 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 2/4/2022 11:12 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2022-02-04 10:33 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 2/1/2022 6:41 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> I am sitting here watching Jeopardy and the first commercial break
>>>>> an ad for Coke Zero. There was a second, maybe a third commercial,
>>>>> I wasn't paying close attention, and then there was a Pepsi
>>>>> commercial. I always thought those guys went for exclusive deals.
>>>>
>>>> Commercials/ads are purchased by agencies who represent the brands.
>>>> The actual television show being aired doesn't have anything to do
>>>> with who was buying advertising time on the same network in the same
>>>> time slot. It shouldn't be surprising. They are competing with each
>>>> other and are trying to reach a target audience. In this case, it
>>>> was people who watch Jeopardy.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think it matters a whole heck of a lot who is actually buying
>>> the air time. Sponsorship is a big thing for some of those TV shows
>>> and the advertising companies that sign the air time deals. I just
>>> thought it was odd to see these two major competitors going almost
>>> back to back. They are each other's top rivals. When they sell to
>>> restaurants and entertainment complexes they usually got for
>>> exclusive rights.
>>>
>> Our local Spectrum news station has a lot of lawyers advertising.
>> Very common to have two back to back on a break. Pay nothing unless
>> we win. Call any time, even from the scene. Call me on my cell. We
>> want to win! Over and over every day.
>
> It's the same thing on TV if you ever watch court shows on television.
> You get tons of back to back "personal injury lawyers" ads. All from
> different firms.
>
> If you ever watch MeTV or Antenna TV (old TV shows) you'll see back to
> back ads for Medicare supplement plans. From different companies, back
> to back. Also a lot of ads for "final life insurance" from different
> insurance carriers. Heh.

Every now and again, I'll sit and watch the Andy Griffith show on that
MeTV at work in the break room (when I'd normally be going home). Maybe
if it's pouring rain out or something. I love watching it, but I've
really had enough of Joe Namath trying to sell me Medicare
supplements... LOL

[Kamala]

Uhm Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

[Michael Trew]

Does Graham like pickelball also?

[Dave Smith]

On 2022-02-05 3:07 p.m., Je�us wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 13:57:53 -0500, Dave Smith

>> Perhaps they should set up a permanent facility somewhere. That would
>> save a fortune on building costs, and possibly even more in the cost of
>> lobbying.
>
> From my POV, that would be a good solution. And make the whole thing
> self-funding. No government assistance. By that, I mean the Olympics
> themselves. Not the athletes, they need government support.

Let's not forget that they are amateur. Perhaps we should dispose of
that fallacy and pay them a salary to train and compete. They could
be.... Soviet soldiers.

[Jeßus]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:53:00 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Yes, the 'amatuer' status thong is a minefield. Maybe as you say, just
pay them a basic income.

And on the topic... and other nail in the Olympics coffin for me - is
this nonsense:

"Behind the ‘opportunistic’ Olympic defection that left US stunned


She could be America’s next Olympic darling — a stunning 18-year-old
skier who signed with Victoria’s Secret and plans to attend Stanford
University after she vies for gold in Beijing.

But Eileen Gu won’t be competing for the US.

Instead, in a move that’s baffled members of the American skiing
community, San Francisco-born-and-bred Gu has joined Team China.

“I have decided to compete for China in the 2022 Winter Olympics,” Gu
announced in a 2019 tweet, months after she earned her first World Cup
win in Italy at 15.

“The opportunity to help inspire millions of young people where my mum
was born, during the 2022 Beijing Olympic Winter Games is a
once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to help promote the sport I love.”

The New York Post reports others in the sport are questioning why Gu,
an ultra-athletic freeskier and favourite to claim as many as three
gold medals when the games begin this week, would side with the host
nation, which is accused of abusing human rights and engaging in
unfair trade policies."

https://www.foxsports.com.au/beijing-olympics-2022/behind-the-opportunistic-olympic-defection-that-left-us-stunned/news-story/40ada9caadd55cb3167be9a98bc84d68

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2022-02-04, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Isn't the Superbowl coming up this Sunday 2/6? They'll likely have
> competing ads during the "Big Game", too, if their respective agencies
> bought some air-time.

I don't know, but I'll do what I did last year. I'll tape the game and
buzz through it looking for humorous commercials.

leo

[GM]

Whenever I see nattering Chinese students in the local stores, I'll often "nudge" them
aside with my shopping trolley...

One of them once dropped a bottle of wine, lol...

--
GM

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2022-02-05, Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Perhaps they should set up a permanent facility somewhere. That would
> save a fortune on building costs, and possibly even more in the cost of
> lobbying.

I suggest Hawthorne, Nevada. There's plenty of government land, a
alkaline lake that could take care of water sports, plenty of old
ammunition bunkers for housing, a barely functioning main base that
could be revamped into a glorious IOC headquarters and access to the
High-Sierra, barely sixty miles away for winter sports.
They even have a 10,000 foot mountain that overlooks the lake and would be
great for panoramic shots.

<https://postimg.cc/dkN6dYk3>

The lake is a little smaller now. That stitched together picture was
taken in 1974. I'm just trying to help the town ;-)

[jmcquown]

On 2/5/2022 2:04 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2022-02-05 1:39 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 2/5/2022 7:19 AM, Gary wrote:

>>> On 2/4/2022 10:44 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> Isn't the Superbowl coming up this Sunday 2/6?  They'll likely have
>>>> competing ads during the "Big Game", too, if their respective
>>>> agencies bought some air-time.
>>>

>>> Not this Sunday (tomorrow). Superbowl is next week, Feb 13th.
>>>

>> It doesn't really matter which weekend the Superbowl will air.  I'm
>> trying to explain why ads for competing products are booked in
>> specific time slots back to back.
>>
>>
>
> I am aware of the way advertizes book their air time. I was just
> surprised that Coke and Pepsi would have almost back to back ads on the
> same program. They have a very intense rivalry.
>
>
That's why they do it.

Jill

[Graham]

A Canadian bobsledder got into an argument with the National organizers
and, not getting her way, moved down to the US in a huff with her
American hubby and has been trying out for the US team.

[Graham]

Don't the ads last longer than the game?

[Jeßus]

Really?

[GM]

Some of them can be pretty rude, lol...

--
GM

[Jeßus]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:06:37 -0700, Graham <g.st...@shaw.ca> wrote:

It just devalues the whole thing, athletics in general and the
Olympics. No wonder more people are tuning out these days.

[Jeßus]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 18:49:16 -0800 (PST), GM

Mainland Chinese can be very rude. They are generally despised in SE
Asia when they come in groups as tourists. Pushy, spitting, even
defecating in all the wrong places. Best part is most all their money
virtually ends up back in China and not benefiting the countries they
visit.

[Michael Trew]

On 2/5/2022 14:24, Graham wrote:
> On 2022-02-05 12:13 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>
>> I also suggested he launch an investigation into who accessed his
>> driver license information. I suspect that the process server may
>> have been a part timer with a law enforcement day job and accessed
>> MTO records improperly. They record every search of the records and
>> could easily determine who accessed it. It is one thing to try to
>> trace a person with the information from their records. It is another
>> matter to go on a fishing expedition.
>>
>> Don't get mad. Get even.
>>
> As he was the wrong person, couldn't he have just ignored the papers and
> pitched them into the garbage bin?

Perhaps he should have thrown the papers on the lawyer's lawn ;)

[Dave Smith]

I like the idea of furthest, fastest, highest and all that, the vents
with physical measurements. There are too many events with subjective
judging these days, like figure skating, but they are there because they
sell. Now there are too many gender issues, like transexuals want to
compete as the gender they think they are instead of the one they grew
up as. That leaves women competing with men in events where males have a
physical advantage. I lost track of the women's ski jumping. There had
been a big push for it to become an Olympic event. I IOC had denied
it because there just weren't enough of them to have proper competitions
and therefor no tiers of competitions to get to world class events.

They also want to eliminate one of the few things I like to watch, the
equestrian events. A lot of people think it is just a game for rich
people and that the horses do all the work.

[Bernie]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 22:55:58 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>I like the idea of furthest, fastest, highest and all that, the vents
>with physical measurements. There are too many events with subjective
>judging these days, like figure skating, but they are there because they
>sell. Now there are too many gender issues, like transexuals want to
>compete as the gender they think they are instead of the one they grew
>up as. That leaves women competing with men in events where males have a
>physical advantage. I lost track of the women's ski jumping. There had
>been a big push for it to become an Olympic event. I IOC had denied
>it because there just weren't enough of them to have proper competitions
>and therefor no tiers of competitions to get to world class events.
>
>They also want to eliminate one of the few things I like to watch, the
>equestrian events. A lot of people think it is just a game for rich
>people and that the horses do all the work.

Incoherent rambling.

[Bernie]

[Bernie]

Ghe? Uhm, can you go into more detail? I don't get it

[Gary]

Stan The Bruce wrote:
> The Chinese are also committing genocide. They're the Nazis of our
> time.

Many countries have proven to be the "Nazis of our time" and committing
genocide.

The original Nazis of that time hosted the Olympics in 1936.

In my opinion, the Olympics should at least be the few times that the
world comes together as one and lets young great athletes compete in
peace. No politics necessary or welcome.

Jimmy Carter did wrong when he decided the USA athletes will boycott the
Games in Moscow (1980). He accomplished nothing except make the Soviet
Union mad and also destroy dreams of american athletes.

> And the population is too dumb and obedient to do something
> about it.

How to fix the problem? WW3 with nukes?
At least that would show Mr.Covid19 who's really the boss.

[Cory]

On Sun, 6 Feb 2022 05:26:58 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

> Stan The Bruce wrote:
>> The Chinese are also committing genocide. They're the Nazis of our
>> time.
>
>Many countries have proven to be the "Nazis of our time" and committing
>genocide.

Many? Turkey, Myanmar. Who else?

>The original Nazis of that time hosted the Olympics in 1936.
>
>In my opinion, the Olympics should at least be the few times that the
>world comes together as one and lets young great athletes compete in
>peace. No politics necessary or welcome.

You can't always separate the two. We shouldn't let a Nazi regime
pretend everything's hunky dory. Just like the world championship
football (round ball) shouldn't have been given to Dubai.

>Jimmy Carter did wrong when he decided the USA athletes will boycott the
>Games in Moscow (1980). He accomplished nothing except make the Soviet
>Union mad and also destroy dreams of american athletes.
>
>> And the population is too dumb and obedient to do something
>> about it.
>
>How to fix the problem? WW3 with nukes?
>At least that would show Mr.Covid19 who's really the boss.
>

I meant the Chinese population.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On 2/5/2022 5:13 PM, GM wrote:
> Whenever I see nattering Chinese students in the local stores, I'll often "nudge" them
> aside with my shopping trolley...
>
> One of them once dropped a bottle of wine, lol...
>

Did that make him stop pointing and laughing at you, fatboy?

[Cory]

Joan, how can you talk to your friend like that? What's he going to
think?

[Gary]

On 2/5/2022 2:35 PM, Graham wrote:
> On 2022-02-05 11:57 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:

>> On 2022-02-05 11:50 a.m., Graham wrote:
>>> On 2022-02-05 7:46 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2022-02-05 7:19 a.m., Gary wrote:
>>
>>>>> Olympics this week. Watched some of the opening ceremony last night
>>>>> but it was fairly yawnable. I do love watching many of the winter
>>>>> sports though...not so much the Summer Olympics.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have no plans to watch the Olympics.
>>>
>>> Neither have I! It's time they were stopped altogether!
>>

>> Aside from the political issues, there is the enormous cost.
>
> AIUI things changed after the LA games that made a huge profit that the
> local organizers refused to turn o0ver to the Olympic organization. Now,
> the Olympics gets all the proceeds of the TV and other rights, doling
> out some of it to the successful bidders.
> The Calgary games maintain that they made $200 million while
> conveniently forgetting that the Provincial and Federal govts chipped in
> that same amount!
>
> Cities have
>> to spend a fortune lobbying for the chance to host the games  and the
>> pitches generally involve building all sorts of specialized
>> facilities. While there may be a number of jobs in construction and
>> for hotels and restaurants for a couple weeks, the cities end up
>> paying off those projects for decades and also bear the cost of
>> maintenance.
>>
>
> The ONLY ones to really benefit financially are those who construct the
> facilities.
>

Leave it to RFC to even bitch about the Olympics. lol
Why am I not surprised? ;)

I watched a snowboard competition last night. The youngest snowboarder
in the Games (age 17) did one move that nobody ever saw before. It was a
flip that looked like an out of control fall and he was headed for
injury. He didn't fall, it was a planned stunt and he immediately moved
into 1st place. It fooled me too.

[Gary]

On 2/5/2022 4:03 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> Every now and again, I'll sit and watch the Andy Griffith show on that
> MeTV at work in the break room (when I'd normally be going home).  Maybe
> if it's pouring rain out or something.  I love watching it, but I've
> really had enough of Joe Namath trying to sell me Medicare
> supplements... LOL

Too funny. I completely agree on both counts. I like the occasional Andy
shows and I AlWAYS change channels when Joe Namath comes on. arrghh@

[Hank Rogers]

Yep, but the guy screaming dynomite is much more irritating.

[Jeff]

Hank Rogers wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>> On 2/5/2022 4:03 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>> Every now and again, I'll sit and watch the Andy Griffith show on
>>> that MeTV at work in the break room (when I'd normally be going

>>> home).  Maybe if it's pouring rain out or something.  I love

>>> watching it, but I've really had enough of Joe Namath trying to sell
>>> me Medicare supplements... LOL
>>
>> Too funny. I completely agree on both counts. I like the occasional
>> Andy shows and I AlWAYS change channels when Joe Namath comes on. arrghh@
>>
>
> Yep, but the guy screaming dynomite is much more irritating.
>
>
>

[Michael Trew]

On 2/6/2022 14:03, Hank Rogers wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>> On 2/5/2022 4:03 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>> Every now and again, I'll sit and watch the Andy Griffith show on
>>> that MeTV at work in the break room (when I'd normally be going

>>> home). Maybe if it's pouring rain out or something. I love

>>> watching it, but I've really had enough of Joe Namath trying to sell
>>> me Medicare supplements... LOL
>>
>> Too funny. I completely agree on both counts. I like the occasional
>> Andy shows and I AlWAYS change channels when Joe Namath comes on. arrghh@
>
> Yep, but the guy screaming dynomite is much more irritating.

LOL you beat me to it, bringing up the Jimmy Walker one was going to be
my response.

https://youtu.be/S6eAWX9qUEM