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Gary

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May 22, 2018, 6:25:13 AM5/22/18
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I saw this in the morning newspaper today. Funny story.
"A pig was taken into police custody after it was accused of
stalking a human"

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/may/21/he-was-being-followed-by-a-pig-and-didnt-know-what/

Ophelia

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May 22, 2018, 8:41:01 AM5/22/18
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"Gary" wrote in message news:5B03F03A...@att.net...
==

lol he must have been near a farm. The pig probably smelled something in
his pocket:)

Terry Coombs

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May 22, 2018, 8:46:32 AM5/22/18
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  The article said it was a pet , and had been returned to it's owner .

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Cheri

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May 22, 2018, 9:01:14 AM5/22/18
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> "Gary"Â wrote in message news:5B03F03A...@att.net...
>
> I saw this in the morning newspaper today. Funny story.
> "A pig was taken into police custody after it was accused of
> stalking a human"


Much better than being stalked by this, which would be one of my least
favorite ways to die.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/biker-s-death-near-seattle-washington-s-first-cougar-fatality-n875871

Gary

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May 22, 2018, 9:31:47 AM5/22/18
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Yeah...that's a sad story. Wasn't it you, Cheri, that posted
about a cougar in your neighborhood several weeks ago? Or was
that someone else?

Cheri

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May 22, 2018, 9:41:42 AM5/22/18
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"Gary" <g.ma...@att.net> wrote in message news:5B041BED...@att.net...
No, it wasn't me, the biggest thing I've seen in my yard is a raccoon,
thankfully.

Cheri

Gary

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May 22, 2018, 10:40:41 AM5/22/18
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/biker-s-death-near-seattle-washington-s-first-cougar-fatality-n875871

Cheri wrote:
>
> "Gary"wrote
> > Yeah...that's a sad story. Wasn't it you, Cheri, that posted
> > about a cougar in your neighborhood several weeks ago? Or was
> > that someone else?
>
> No, it wasn't me, the biggest thing I've seen in my yard is a raccoon,
> thankfully.

Eh-oh. If it wasn't you, I'll bet it was US Janet.
I doubt she will be talking to me anytime soon. lol

Cheri

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May 22, 2018, 1:08:25 PM5/22/18
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"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 22 May 2018 09:32:29 -0400, Gary wrote:
>
>> Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> Much better than being stalked by this, which would be one of my least
>>> favorite ways to die.
>>>
>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/biker-s-death-near-seattle-washington-s-first-cougar-fatality-n875871
>>
>> Yeah...that's a sad story. Wasn't it you, Cheri, that posted
>> about a cougar in your neighborhood several weeks ago? Or was
>> that someone else?
>
> So if there's something to be learned by this, it's to tell your
> friend(s) to "Run! Run!" when you're being attacked by a large
> predatory cat.
>
> -sw


I don't believe anyone told him to run, though I could be wrong. The
newspaper said that he ran as his friend was being attacked after the cougar
came back. I imagine the first instinct would be to run, I saw something on
I survived where the older woman kept beating the cougar when it was
attacking her husband and it absolutely didn't let go for several minutes,
she had no thought of leaving him though, so good for her because that's
probably the only reason he's alive today.

A good reason to be carrying mace or something like that IMO.

Cheri

Terry Coombs

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May 22, 2018, 2:22:01 PM5/22/18
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  Prey runs ... being faced with something that fights back is not
usually in the cougar's dinner plans - though in this case it may not
have mattered . The article description of it's condition means it was
probably desperate for a meal , and one presented itself .

Cheri

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May 22, 2018, 2:27:31 PM5/22/18
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"Terry Coombs" <snag...@msn.com> wrote in message
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>Snag

Yes, running is bad, but instinctual I think.

Cheri





penm...@aol.com

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May 22, 2018, 2:47:05 PM5/22/18
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On Tue, 22 May 2018 11:58:21 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
wrote:

>On Tue, 22 May 2018 09:32:29 -0400, Gary wrote:
>
>> Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> Much better than being stalked by this, which would be one of my least
>>> favorite ways to die.
>>>
>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/biker-s-death-near-seattle-washington-s-first-cougar-fatality-n875871
>>
>> Yeah...that's a sad story. Wasn't it you, Cheri, that posted
>> about a cougar in your neighborhood several weeks ago? Or was
>> that someone else?
>
>So if there's something to be learned by this, it's to tell your
>friend(s) to "Run! Run!" when you're being attacked by a large
>predatory cat.
>
>-sw

Sure, you're gonna outrun a cougar.

dsi1

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May 22, 2018, 4:34:09 PM5/22/18
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On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 at 8:27:31 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
>
> Yes, running is bad, but instinctual I think.
>
> Cheri

I was walking through the parking lot one day and saw a wild pig on our side of the fence. We both froze. I was wondering what that thing was going to do and he was probably thinking the same. We stared at each other for a while until the pig decided that I was harmless. Then I went home. In the end, the pig probably got everything that was coming to him.

Dave Smith

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May 22, 2018, 5:41:10 PM5/22/18
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On 2018-05-22 2:21 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:

>   Prey runs ... being faced with something that fights back is not
> usually in the cougar's dinner plans - though in this case it may not
> have mattered . The article description of it's condition means it was
> probably desperate for a meal , and one presented itself .

Running is only a good idea if there is someone else, and you can run
faster than your friend.


jmcquown

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May 23, 2018, 8:14:16 PM5/23/18
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On 5/22/2018 8:46 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
> On 5/22/2018 7:40 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Gary"  wrote in message news:5B03F03A...@att.net...
>>
>> I saw this in the morning newspaper today. Funny story.
>> "A pig was taken into police custody after it was accused of
>> stalking a human"
>>
>> http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/may/21/he-was-being-followed-by-a-pig-and-didnt-know-what/
>>
>>
>> ==
>>
>> lol he must have been near a farm.  The pig probably smelled something in
>> his pocket:)
>
>   The article said it was a pet , and had been returned to it's owner .
>
Pot-bellied pigs are quite common pets in fairly rural areas. I used to
work with a woman who had one.

She owned a small farm not far from Memphis. She owned a number of farm
animals including some really pretty red dairy cows. I think she had a
milking goat. Chickens. And fields planted.

The pot-bellied pig did not live in her house but yes, she said it would
follow her around like a dog. She had dogs on the farm, too. Her
husband died in a car accident; they had two young children. She used
to sew her and their clothes like a professional tailor. Her day job
was computer programmer and database administrator. I really don't know
how she found the time.

Jill

jmcquown

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May 23, 2018, 8:26:52 PM5/23/18
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OUCH! Here's the question I have from that article: "Brooks ran away —
the wrong response, experts say". So what should he have done? There
doesn't seem to be much advice when you're being approached by a 100-lb.
hungry cat.

Jill

jmcquown

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May 23, 2018, 8:29:10 PM5/23/18
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I had an alligator in my back yard once. Raccoons, while destructive,
are preferable. :)

Jill

jmcquown

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May 23, 2018, 8:37:37 PM5/23/18
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On 5/23/2018 1:04 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I saw picture the victim. He's not a small person and it's hard to
> imagine that this starving, emaciated 100lb mountain lion could drag
> him back to his den rather than just chowing down right then and
> there.
>
> -sw
>
You don't watch nature programs, do you? LOL Big cats (a cougar by any
name in the US is a big wild cat) kill, then eat some of their prey.
They wait a bit, then drag the food off to a safe haven for later
snacking. Usually up in a tree away from other predators. If they have
a family to feed they all get to eat. This may well have been a lone,
hungry cat. It's instinctual.

Jill

jmcquown

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May 23, 2018, 8:38:32 PM5/23/18
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He was being facetious, Sheldon.

Jill

jmcquown

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May 23, 2018, 8:49:40 PM5/23/18
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On 5/23/2018 1:05 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> Sure, you're gonna outrun a cougar.
>
> No, but that's what I'm going to tell my former friend.
>
> -sw
>
I got the macabre joke even if Sheldon didn't.

Jill

Bruce

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May 23, 2018, 11:35:18 PM5/23/18
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On Wed, 23 May 2018 21:43:14 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
wrote:
>> I got the macabre joke even if Sheldon didn't.
>
>Thank you. Sheldon loves cats so much more than people that I'm
>sure he would gladly offer himself up to any large cat in need.

You look down on this man, yet you can't stop going on about him. What
does that say about you?

jmcquown

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May 24, 2018, 8:48:07 AM5/24/18
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On 5/23/2018 10:41 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> The article said that the prey was already being dragged off when he
> left to "go find help".
>
> How do they drag an antelope up a tree? I've seen these programs
> and never seen them eating in trees. Or having a appetizer before
> dragging it off.
>
> -sw
>
Don't ask me how they do it. They stash food in trees to keep other
predators away from their kill.

Jill

Gary

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May 24, 2018, 9:13:52 AM5/24/18
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jmcquown wrote:
>
> OUCH! Here's the question I have from that article: "Brooks ran away —
> the wrong response, experts say". So what should he have done? There
> doesn't seem to be much advice when you're being approached by a 100-lb.
> hungry cat.

Here's the advice I know about.

1) when hiking, biking etc in bear or cat country, carry a gun!
2) Cats attack from behind. People in India wear human masks
on the back of their heads to make the tiger think you are
looking at them.
3) As stated, never run. Face the cat, yell at it loudly, and
make yourself seem like a threat rather than helpless prey.
4) Face the cat but never, ever stare at it. Staring at a cat
right in the eyes is aggressive behavior.
5) Look near the cat but downwards and slowly back away.
6) If you're not carrying a gun, kiss your ass goodbye.

No human has a chance against a 100 lb mountain lion. Imagine a
600lb tiger or lion. Goodbye!

jmcquown

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May 24, 2018, 9:29:17 AM5/24/18
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Thanks. I doubt most people out for a bike ride would be carrying a
gun. I'm thinking or pepper spray. Then again, it might just make the
cat more angry. Or maybe the big cat likes a little spice with dinner. ;)

Jill

penm...@aol.com

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May 24, 2018, 10:00:24 AM5/24/18
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On Thu, 24 May 2018 08:47:56 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:
I've seen Nat Geos where leopards drag large prey up a tree, they grab
it in their jaws and easily climb a tree, Cats are powerful
animals... feral/wild cats are a lot more powerful than house cats.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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May 24, 2018, 11:57:55 AM5/24/18
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Mountain lions and leopards have tremendous neck and shoulder muscles
that enable them to lift, drag, and climb trees to stash their dinner
in trees out of other ground dwelling predators reach. All that rend-
ing and tearing of flesh is done after the animal is killed. Killing
is done by suffocating their prey with a bite to the front of the neck
and cutting off oxygen.

tert in seattle

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May 24, 2018, 12:00:05 PM5/24/18
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good advice for something that I'm sure happens regularly to most of
the people reading this


U.S. Janet B.

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May 24, 2018, 12:05:28 PM5/24/18
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On Wed, 23 May 2018 21:41:37 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
wrote:
snip
>
>How do they drag an antelope up a tree? I've seen these programs
>and never seen them eating in trees. Or having a appetizer before
>dragging it off.
>
>-sw

I've seen it documentaries. They just drag it up there. They are
very strong.
Janet US

jmcquown

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May 24, 2018, 12:29:26 PM5/24/18
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Wild cats like cougars and bobcats are extremely strong, muscular
animals. The jaws and teeth are nothing to sneer at. They certainly
aren't cats hanging out on the porch waiting for the next Chewy delivery. ;)

Jill

jmcquown

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May 24, 2018, 12:30:25 PM5/24/18
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They also sever the carotid.

Jill

jmcquown

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May 24, 2018, 12:32:12 PM5/24/18
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Well, ya know. First time in 94 years. That we know of.

I definitely need to know how to react if I encounter a 100 lb. wild cat.

Jill

Wayne Boatwright

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May 24, 2018, 12:43:16 PM5/24/18
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On Thu 24 May 2018 09:05:20a, U.S. Janet B. told us...
I didn't know Sheldon had that much strength.

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Wayne Boatwright

col...@gmail.com

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May 24, 2018, 12:45:35 PM5/24/18
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They say it's stupid to shoot a leopard with a 30-06 even tho a 30-06 bullet would shoot all the way through the leopard lengthways.

Wayne Boatwright

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May 24, 2018, 12:49:49 PM5/24/18
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On Thu 24 May 2018 09:29:14a, jmcquown told us...
Our cats can smell the catnip through the box and they go lookiing fr
it. :-)

Bruce

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May 24, 2018, 3:25:06 PM5/24/18
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On Thu, 24 May 2018 09:14:41 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>4) Face the cat but never, ever stare at it. Staring at a cat
> right in the eyes is aggressive behavior.

People always say that, but our cats don't agree.

col...@gmail.com

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May 24, 2018, 6:13:49 PM5/24/18
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A famous african lion hunter Named White hunted lions with a 30-06 and said it worked fine.
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