Traditional Uzbek Bread

[Ed Pawlowski]

Never say anything like this. Looks good though. Not sure what the
black things are she puts in the bottom

https://imgur.com/gallery/5xh8tAf

[GM]

There was a Russian bakery on the North Side of Chicago that offered these types
of breads, baked in a stone oven... they also did Georgian breads. Checking I see
that it's closed...

--
GM

[Dave Smith]

I think she wet her fingers and dipped them into a bowl of poppy seeds
or some other dark seed, then poked then into the dough. I liked the guy
sticking the loaves into the lower reaches if the oven. Another inch or
two and he might have fallen in.

[Tony]

Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

[Cindy Hamilton]

That is way cool.

The black things might be charnuska seeds. I added some of those
to a bowl of lentil soup a couple days ago.

Cindy Hamilton

[Tony]

Of course you did. Who didn't?

[Cindy Hamilton]

Charnushka also pairs very well with cabbage.

Cindy Hamilton

[Tony]

On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 01:36:09 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton

<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 4:31:18 AM UTC-5, Tony wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 01:29:43 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 10:52:48 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >> Never say anything like this. Looks good though. Not sure what the
>> >> black things are she puts in the bottom
>> >>
>> >> https://imgur.com/gallery/5xh8tAf
>> >
>> >That is way cool.
>> >
>> >The black things might be charnuska seeds. I added some of those
>> >to a bowl of lentil soup a couple days ago.
>> Of course you did. Who didn't?
>
>Charnushka also pairs very well with cabbage.

I was just about to say that.

[bruce bowser]

Eastern European and Russian pizza and other breads are served here by various places in New York (especially Queens). I've never tried any of it.

[GM]

Russians and other Slavics and Central Asians make GREAT bread, bb... ya should try some...

Russian ice cream can also be amongst the best in the world...

--
GM

[Tony]

Bloody communists.

[Bryan Simmons]

I believe that it might be that, "Russians and other Slavics and
Central Asians make GREAT bread," but I do not believe that
they make great ice cream. Making great ice cream requires
machinery and attention to quality that would not have existed
in a planned economy. It also wouldn't have existed in a far
Right banana republic.

You want great ice cream? It's called Häagen-Dazs, but I
tell you, the *Specially Selected* ice creams from ALDI are
the closest thing to Häagen-Dazs, though their flavor choices
are, characteristic of ALDI, far more limited. Their vanilla is
great, but they have a seasonal "Vanilla Chocolate Almond"
that's up there with some of the best Häagen-Dazs flavors.
>
> --
> GM

--Bryan

[Tony]

This is my frogger. Ghe Ghe Ghe.

[GM]

bryang...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 4:12:02 PM UTC-6, GM wrote:
> > bruce bowser wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 11:13:57 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
> > > > Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Never say anything like this. Looks good though. Not sure what the
> > > > > black things are she puts in the bottom
> > > > >
> > > > > https://imgur.com/gallery/5xh8tAf
> > > > There was a Russian bakery on the North Side of Chicago that offered these types
> > > > of breads, baked in a stone oven... they also did Georgian breads. Checking I see
> > > > that it's closed...
> > > Eastern European and Russian pizza and other breads are served here by various places in New York (especially Queens). I've never tried any of it.
> > Russians and other Slavics and Central Asians make GREAT bread, bb... ya should try some...
> >
> > Russian ice cream can also be amongst the best in the world...
> >
> I believe that it might be that, "Russians and other Slavics and
> Central Asians make GREAT bread," but I do not believe that
> they make great ice cream. Making great ice cream requires
> machinery and attention to quality that would not have existed
> in a planned economy. It also wouldn't have existed in a far
> Right banana republic.

Russian ice cream was very high quality, production standards were strict, and no artificial ingredients
permitted. I had Soviet - made ice cream in East Germany and Czechoslovakia in the late 70's, it was
excellent, I still remember the rich taste:

https://www.rbth.com/russian-kitchen/334664-secrets-of-soviet-ice-cream-eskimo-recipe

Let’s reveal the secrets of Soviet 'Eskimo' ice cream (RECIPE)

"This legendary ice cream bar was destined to become No. 1 in the USSR, and was made in large
quantities at choice locations. But can you make it at home? Yes, and we’ll show you how.

‘Eskimo on a stick’, according to Anastas Mikoyan (Soviet commissar of the food industry),
was decreed to be mass produced at affordable prices. He was convinced that a Soviet
citizen should eat at least five kilograms of this ice cream each year.

Eskimo appeared in the USSR in the 1930s, and soon afterward the country became
second in the world after the United States in terms of production and consumption of ice cream.

Superior quality, however, is what distinguished Soviet ice cream from its American or French
competition. Credit must be given to the official Soviet state standard, known as GOST, in
accordance with which Eskimo was produced. Soviet ice cream didn’t have any preservatives,
but only natural milk. All types of ice cream were produced using a single technology, so the
taste of ice cream in any city of the Soviet Union was pretty much the same.

People of the older generation often say that in the Soviet era ice cream never had time to
lay on the shelves – it was bought as soon as it appeared in the store. Well it only appeared,
at best, three times a week. Therefore, the queues were huge.

The recipe we’re going to use today is taken from the 1959 Soviet сookbook. With this recipe,
our Eskimo turns out absolutely wonderful..."

>
> You want great ice cream? It's called Häagen-Dazs, but I
> tell you, the *Specially Selected* ice creams from ALDI are
> the closest thing to Häagen-Dazs, though their flavor choices
> are, characteristic of ALDI, far more limited. Their vanilla is
> great, but they have a seasonal "Vanilla Chocolate Almond"
> that's up there with some of the best Häagen-Dazs flavors.

I agree with you on the Häagen-Dazs, it's the only brand I buy, although I also like some
of Talenti's sorbets...

Not near an Aldi, but it sounds great...

--
GM

[Tony]

>The recipe we’re going to use today is taken from the 1959 Soviet ?ookbook. With this recipe,

>our Eskimo turns out absolutely wonderful..."
>
>
>
>>
>> You want great ice cream? It's called Häagen-Dazs, but I
>> tell you, the *Specially Selected* ice creams from ALDI are
>> the closest thing to Häagen-Dazs, though their flavor choices
>> are, characteristic of ALDI, far more limited. Their vanilla is
>> great, but they have a seasonal "Vanilla Chocolate Almond"
>> that's up there with some of the best Häagen-Dazs flavors.
>
>
>I agree with you on the Häagen-Dazs, it's the only brand I buy, although I also like some
>of Talenti's sorbets...
>
>Not near an Aldi, but it sounds great...

Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my not frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe
:)))))))))))

[Ophelia]

lol

[Tony]

On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 15:05:20 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
<bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:

>You want great ice cream? It's called Häagen-Dazs, but I
>tell you, the *Specially Selected* ice creams from ALDI are
>the closest thing to Häagen-Dazs, though their flavor choices
>are, characteristic of ALDI, far more limited. Their vanilla is
>great, but they have a seasonal "Vanilla Chocolate Almond"
>that's up there with some of the best Häagen-Dazs flavors.

We buy ice cream at ALDI, but only known brands, never ALDI brands
that you never see anywhere else. I'm always afraid that they're even
worse science projects than the regular brands because of ALDI's
cheapness. But I'll have to have another look.

Häagen-Dazs is the best I've seen in supermarkets, ingredient wise.

[Tony]

[Sheldon Martin]

On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 15:25:51 -0800 (PST), GM
<gregorymorr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> bryang...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 4:12:02 PM UTC-6, GM wrote:
>> > bruce bowser wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 11:13:57 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
>> > > > Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Never say anything like this. Looks good though. Not sure what the
>> > > > > black things are she puts in the bottom
>> > > > >
>> > > > > https://imgur.com/gallery/5xh8tAf

Looks like a blend of bagel and bialy. There are many traditional
Ruske eateries in Brooklyn, especially in Brighten Beach. My father
is Russian, actually born in Riga, Latvia. My grand parents knew how
to cook and bake all those delicious foods... my favorites were
pickled/smoked fish. My grandmother baked 8 pound loaves of Russian
rye and pumpernickle... I think she knew they were perfect when they
were the size and weight of her bosoms.
My old stomping grounds, I grew up in Gravesend: Graduated from
Abraham Lincoln High School.
My after school job was Stockboy at the Brighton Beach Bartons
Bonbonaire Choclatiere,no one makes better chocolates.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brighton_Beach

>The recipe we’re going to use today is taken from the 1959 Soviet ?ookbook. With this recipe,

[Tony]

On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 19:55:51 -0500, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
wrote:

Ghe? Uhm, can you go into more detail? I don't get it

[Bryan Simmons]

In the USA, ALDI brands some products, *Specially Selected*. They
are always very high quality, and aren't cheap.

--Bryan

[Tonio]

On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 17:09:47 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons

<bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 6:27:35 PM UTC-6, Tony wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 15:05:20 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
>> <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >You want great ice cream? It's called Häagen-Dazs, but I
>> >tell you, the *Specially Selected* ice creams from ALDI are
>> >the closest thing to Häagen-Dazs, though their flavor choices
>> >are, characteristic of ALDI, far more limited. Their vanilla is
>> >great, but they have a seasonal "Vanilla Chocolate Almond"
>> >that's up there with some of the best Häagen-Dazs flavors.
>> We buy ice cream at ALDI, but only known brands, never ALDI brands
>> that you never see anywhere else. I'm always afraid that they're even
>> worse science projects than the regular brands because of ALDI's
>> cheapness. But I'll have to have another look.
>>
>> Häagen-Dazs is the best I've seen in supermarkets, ingredient wise.
>>
>In the USA, ALDI brands some products, *Specially Selected*. They
>are always very high quality, and aren't cheap.
>

I haven't seen that here, but I'll check. I always see ALDI brands
like "Milfina". Can't remember the others. Maybe they're just for the
Australian market.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 1/27/2022 6:25 PM, GM wrote:

>
>
> Russian ice cream was very high quality, production standards were strict, and no artificial ingredients
> permitted. I had Soviet - made ice cream in East Germany and Czechoslovakia in the late 70's, it was
> excellent, I still remember the rich taste:
>
> https://www.rbth.com/russian-kitchen/334664-secrets-of-soviet-ice-cream-eskimo-recipe
>
> Let’s reveal the secrets of Soviet 'Eskimo' ice cream (RECIPE)
>
> "This legendary ice cream bar was destined to become No. 1 in the USSR, and was made in large
> quantities at choice locations. But can you make it at home? Yes, and we’ll show you how.
>
> ‘Eskimo on a stick’, according to Anastas Mikoyan (Soviet commissar of the food industry),
> was decreed to be mass produced at affordable prices. He was convinced that a Soviet
> citizen should eat at least five kilograms of this ice cream each year.
>
> Eskimo appeared in the USSR in the 1930s, and soon afterward the country became
> second in the world after the United States in terms of production and consumption of ice cream.
>

The quality may be good but I find it offensive that you use such
antiquated language when speaking of Alaskan Natives. Even Eskimo Pies
have been re-named

What's the new name for Eskimo?
Alaska Natives increasingly prefer to be known by the names they use in
their own languages, such as Inupiaq or Yupik. "Inuit" is now the
current term in Alaska and across the Arctic, and "Eskimo" is fading
from use. The Inuit Circumpolar Council prefers the term "Inuit" but
some other organizations use "Eskimo"

Perhaps a few of us here can qualify to be an Eskimo though. '
"This name is considered derogatory in many other places because it was
given by non-Inuit people and was said to mean 'eater of raw meat,'" it
said.

[Dave Smith]

The weird thing is that the guys explored north western Canada had
Indian guides, and that was the name that the Indians called them. I had
a friend who was part Eskimo, and he often used the word Eskimo, though
he said they called themselves Inuit. He had Scottish ancestors who
were Hudson Bay Company factors... managers of the trading posts. His
grandfather married an Eskimo.

His father had moved south and worked in a local factory. After he
retired he moved back up to Baker Lake.

[Hank Rogers]

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 15:25:51 -0800 (PST), GM
> <gregorymorr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> bryang...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 4:12:02 PM UTC-6, GM wrote:
>>>> bruce bowser wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 11:13:57 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
>>>>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Never say anything like this. Looks good though. Not sure what the
>>>>>>> black things are she puts in the bottom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://imgur.com/gallery/5xh8tAf
>
> Looks like a blend of bagel and bialy. There are many traditional
> Ruske eateries in Brooklyn, especially in Brighten Beach. My father
> is Russian, actually born in Riga, Latvia. My grand parents knew how
> to cook and bake all those delicious foods... my favorites were
> pickled/smoked fish. My grandmother baked 8 pound loaves of Russian
> rye and pumpernickle... I think she knew they were perfect when they
> were the size and weight of her bosoms.

Popeye, is that the same grandmother yoose used to lick salt of'n
her enormous tits?

[GM]

Ah, like Canadian Boy Leader Justin Trudeau does, I shall cower in shame whilst I
apologise...

"Inuit on a stick" shall be it, then...

<chuckle>

--
GM

[Tony]

Uhm, Ghe Ghe Ghe. This is my not frogger. Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe
:)))))))))))

[Tony]

[Tony]

On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 21:32:54 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

[Bryan Simmons]

On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 8:32:59 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Perhaps a few of us here can qualify to be an Eskimo though. '
> "This name is considered derogatory in many other places because it was
> given by non-Inuit people and was said to mean 'eater of raw meat,'" it
> said.
>

Hey, I'm an Eskimo!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpNn1nht0_8

--Bryan

[Ronny]

[Gary]

GM wrote:
> Russian ice cream can also be amongst the best in the world...

Interesting. Bruce Bowser just mentioned Russian pizza too.

I wonder what defines a Russian pizza or ice cream?

I once knew a woman who grew up in Russia and asked her for an authentic
borscht recipe. Other than beets which were easily grown there it was
generally a "clean out your refrigerator" type of meal. Every household
had their own version.

[GM]

Gary wrote:

> GM wrote:
> > Russian ice cream can also be amongst the best in the world...
> Interesting. Bruce Bowser just mentioned Russian pizza too.
>
> I wonder what defines a Russian pizza or ice cream?

Russian ice cream is famous, pizza not so much...

Russians got their first taste of "real" pizza in 1990, when Pizza Hut opened:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorbachev_Pizza_Hut_commercial

Gorbachev Pizza Hut commercial

"In 1998, former Soviet Union leader Mikhail Gorbachev was featured in a television
advertisement by Pizza Hut. It was filmed in November 1997 on Red Square and in
a Pizza Hut restaurant elsewhere in Moscow. It was aired internationally in January
1998, but not in Russia. In the commercial, a family inside the Pizza Hut restaurant
discusses Gorbachev's political legacy. The two men disagree until the woman
says that Gorbachev gave them Pizza Hut.

According to The New York Times, some reports indicate Gorbachev was paid close to US$1 million

Pizza Hut opened in 1990 in Moscow, a few months after the first McDonald's. It was one
of the first foreign-owned restaurants that was able to open in Soviet Russia, thanks in
part to Gorbachev's own Perestroika policies. The idea for a Pizza Hut in Moscow came
from a personal friendship between Soviet Ambassador to the United States Anatoly
Dobrynin and Donald M. Kendall, CEO of Pizza Hut's parent company PepsiCo. It was
part of the largest deal ever between the Soviet Union and an American corporation.
The arrangement flopped after the Soviet Union collapsed, which killed Pizza Hut's
supply chain. In October 1998, Pizza Hut left Moscow...

But they are back, with 57 stores in Russia:

https://www.yum.com/wps/portal/yumbrands/Yumbrands/company/our-brands/pizza-hut

https://pizzahut.ru/

> I once knew a woman who grew up in Russia and asked her for an authentic
> borscht recipe. Other than beets which were easily grown there it was
> generally a "clean out your refrigerator" type of meal. Every household
> had their own version.

Yup, that's about right...

--
GM

[Gary]

On 1/27/2022 6:05 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> You want great ice cream? It's called Häagen-Dazs, but I
> tell you, the *Specially Selected* ice creams from ALDI are
> the closest thing to Häagen-Dazs, though their flavor choices
> are, characteristic of ALDI, far more limited. Their vanilla is
> great, but they have a seasonal "Vanilla Chocolate Almond"
> that's up there with some of the best Häagen-Dazs flavors.

I've tried them all (vanilla flavor).
I paid way to much for the Häagen-Dazs on sale even.
I really wasn't impressed. Just over rated ice cream, imo.

Not near as tasty as Turkey Hill brand. I guess all the extra
ingredients are there for a reason.

On sale: 16oz of Häagen-Dazs = about $4.00
On sale: 48oz Turkey Hill = about $3.00

I only buy ice cream about twice a year so I don't care about
ingredients. I want the best taste.

[Gary]

Ingredient wise, yes. Taste wise, not so. Try Turkey Hill

[Cindy Hamilton]

Taste is subjective. I'm glad you found an ice cream that you like.

I'll stick to Haagen-Dazs. I prefer less ice cream, and I don't care
about the price.

Cindy Hamilton

[Ed Pawlowski]

I buy it when Publix has it on BOGO every six weeks or so. These days a
container is 3 servings for me evening snack.

[bruce bowser]

Speaking of buy one get one, Checker's has a buy two big buford's, get one for one dollar.

[Mustafa]

I don't think we can get that here. Or I've never seen it.

[Mustafa]

On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 08:32:26 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>On 1/27/2022 6:05 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> You want great ice cream? It's called Häagen-Dazs, but I
>> tell you, the *Specially Selected* ice creams from ALDI are
>> the closest thing to Häagen-Dazs, though their flavor choices
>> are, characteristic of ALDI, far more limited. Their vanilla is
>> great, but they have a seasonal "Vanilla Chocolate Almond"
>> that's up there with some of the best Häagen-Dazs flavors.
>
>I've tried them all (vanilla flavor).
>I paid way to much for the Häagen-Dazs on sale even.
>I really wasn't impressed. Just over rated ice cream, imo.
>
>Not near as tasty as Turkey Hill brand. I guess all the extra
>ingredients are there for a reason.

That's a very sad attitude.

[Wahid]

[Michael Trew]

At my nephew's first birthday party a few weeks ago, Mom brought Turkey
Hill Neapolitan ice cream. Both myself and my nephew's grandfather (my
sister's father in law) agreed that it was darn good ice cream. When
mom told us what brand, we both agreed that Turkey Hill cost $1 more
than the generic brand, and that's why neither of us had ever had it,
LOL... Mom stared like we were aliens. I'm more like my sister's
fiancee's family than my own family... said father in law was driving a
90's Dodge Ram with a mashed in front grille... heh

[Michael Trew]

I was excited that the "Deans" brand ice cream is now offering mint chip
(my favorite flavor) in the large gallon size tubs. Heck of a deal on
the price too; typically only sherbet and plain chocolate/vanilla are
offered in the large size. That gallon tub will probably be freezer
burnt before I finish it. I'll probably melt it into a milkshake then
or something.

[jmcquown]

On 1/26/2022 10:52 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Never say anything like this.  Looks good though.  Not sure what the
> black things are she puts in the bottom
>
> https://imgur.com/gallery/5xh8tAf

Late to the game, I think those black things are poppy seeds.
Interesting video. Not something I run into at the grocery store bakery.

Jill

[jmcquown]

On 1/28/2022 9:05 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> I buy it when Publix has it on BOGO every six weeks or so.  These days a
> container is 3 servings for me evening snack.

I like Publix store brand ice cream, too. I really should put it back
on my shopping list. I haven't bought ice cream in ages. A half gallon
lasts 6 months. I ran out last year and still haven't bought any more.

Jill

[jmcquown]

I am guessing buying gallon tubs will save you a few cents. Here's a
hint to prevent freezer burn. Press some plastic wrap down on the top
of the ice cream after you've dished some up, before you close the
container. It helps cut off the formation of ice crystals and freezer
burn. There's really no point in saving a few pennies if you wind up
with some nasty old ice cream.

Jill

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 2:46:56 PM UTC-5, j_mc...@comcast.net wrote:
> On 1/26/2022 10:52 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > Never say anything like this. Looks good though. Not sure what the
> > black things are she puts in the bottom
> >
> > https://imgur.com/gallery/5xh8tAf
> Late to the game, I think those black things are poppy seeds.

I zoomed in. They're oblong rather than round. Almost certainly
charnushka seeds.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigella_sativa>

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruto]

Uhm Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 12:16:03 AM UTC-6, Michael Trew wrote:
>
> At my nephew's first birthday party a few weeks ago, Mom brought Turkey
> Hill Neapolitan ice cream. Both myself and my nephew's grandfather (my
> sister's father in law) agreed that it was darn good ice cream.
>

But their butter pecan ice cream is plain old blah and damn skimpy on
the pecans. Blue Bell brand was recommended to me and it's just as
blah but a decent amount of pecans.

[jmcquown]

Could very well be. It was a fun video to watch. :)

Jill

[cshenk]

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> Never say anything like this. Looks good though. Not sure what the
> black things are she puts in the bottom
>
> https://imgur.com/gallery/5xh8tAf

Charnushka possibly.

[cshenk]

Tony wrote:

> On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 01:36:09 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 4:31:18 AM UTC-5, Tony wrote:
> >> On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 01:29:43 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> >> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 10:52:48 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski

> wrote: >> >> Never say anything like this. Looks good though. Not
> sure what the >> >> black things are she puts in the bottom
> >> >>
> >> >> https://imgur.com/gallery/5xh8tAf
> >> >

> >> >That is way cool.
> >> >
> >> >The black things might be charnuska seeds. I added some of those
> >> >to a bowl of lentil soup a couple days ago.
> >> Of course you did. Who didn't?
> >
> > Charnushka also pairs very well with cabbage.
>
> I was just about to say that.

Grin, it's a classic for Russian breads. Usually spelled Charnushka
but probably also without the second h.

Has other names like Kalonji, Nigera Satva (sp?).

[songbird]

sounds like nigella seeds. they grow pretty easily around
here. i've never tried eating them but the description of
their flavor is something i'd probably like.


songbird

[Mike Duffy]

On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 15:07:34 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

> Here's a hint to prevent freezer burn.
> Press some plastic wrap down on the top
> of the ice cream after you've dished some up,

> [...]

> cut off the formation of ice crystals and freezer burn.

My ice cream usually does not last long enough for freezer burn.

To prevent the more immediate deposit of ice crystals, just put the
container upside-down. Most of them will form on the lid instead.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Nah, that was an ordinary typo. My fingers just don't seem to
want to put that second h in there. My browser flags it as misspelled
either way, so that's no help.

Cindy Hamilton

[Michael Trew]

It's well more than a few pennies; at least a few dollars saved. I
usually feed the really freezer burnt stuff to the kid... she doesn't
care, whee! Ice cream time... lol... I've never bought plastic/cling
wrap, but I can try that with wax paper or something, thanks.

[Michael Trew]

I do like butter pecan, but I haven't found a brand worth it. I might
even splurge if someone could recommend a really good brand of butter
pecan.

[Arnie]

Pecan butter I'd understand but butter pecan...

[Bryan Simmons]

On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 7:31:41 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
> On 1/27/2022 6:05 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > You want great ice cream? It's called Häagen-Dazs, but I
> > tell you, the *Specially Selected* ice creams from ALDI are
> > the closest thing to Häagen-Dazs, though their flavor choices
> > are, characteristic of ALDI, far more limited. Their vanilla is
> > great, but they have a seasonal "Vanilla Chocolate Almond"
> > that's up there with some of the best Häagen-Dazs flavors.
> I've tried them all (vanilla flavor).
> I paid way to much for the Häagen-Dazs on sale even.
> I really wasn't impressed. Just over rated ice cream, imo.
>
> Not near as tasty as Turkey Hill brand. I guess all the extra
> ingredients are there for a reason.
>
> On sale: 16oz of Häagen-Dazs = about $4.00
> On sale: 48oz Turkey Hill = about $3.00
>

That $3 is for the Turkey Hill trash ice cream. Their
https://www.turkeyhill.com/all-natural
is priced only a bit less than Häagen-Dazs.

>
> I only buy ice cream about twice a year so I don't care about
> ingredients. I want the best taste.
>

You are lucky that your TIAD saves you money.

--Bryan

[Bryan Simmons]

You exist to make Gary seem like a gourmet. Checker's
has the shittiest burgers of any chain, and that even
includes Sonic, though I do respect the opinion of those
who think that Sonic is #1, and Checker's #2 for shittiness.

--Bryan

[Hank Rogers]

Heck, if you'd go to wal-mart, they have plastic wrap you can
surely afford.

[Hank Rogers]

My dad was a butter pecan lover. He finally just made his own.
Other than that, the only other ice cream I ever saw him eat was peach.

[Bryan Simmons]

I guess if you're young and thin, and not spoiled on
quality food, that cheap ice cream might have its appeal.

Cream, Skim Milk, Water, Sugar, Corn Syrup, Chocolate Flavored Flakes
(Sugar, Hydrogenated Coconut Oil, Cocoa, Cocoa Processed with Alkali,
Coconut Oil, Soy Lecithin, Salt, Vanilla Extract), High Fructose Corn
Syrup, Whey, Contains Less than 2% of Mono and Diglycerides,
Cellulose Gum, Guar Gum, Carrageenan, Natural Flavor, Yellow 5, Blue 1.

The reason why they add Mono and Diglycerides, Cellulose
Gum, Guar Gum and Carrageenan is because they scrimp
on the cream.

Haagen-Dazs Chocolate Chip
Ingredients. Cream, Skim Milk, Cane Sugar, Chocolate,
Cocoa Processed With Alkali, Egg Yolks, Cocoa Butter,
Vanilla Extract.

--Bryan

[Marnix]

On Sun, 30 Jan 2022 16:27:31 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
<bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 12:17:46 AM UTC-6, Michael Trew wrote:
>> On 1/28/2022 9:05, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >
>> > I buy it when Publix has it on BOGO every six weeks or so. These days a
>> > container is 3 servings for me evening snack.
>> I was excited that the "Deans" brand ice cream is now offering mint chip
>> (my favorite flavor) in the large gallon size tubs. Heck of a deal on
>> the price too; typically only sherbet and plain chocolate/vanilla are
>> offered in the large size. That gallon tub will probably be freezer
>> burnt before I finish it. I'll probably melt it into a milkshake then
>> or something.
>>
>I guess if you're young and thin, and not spoiled on
>quality food, that cheap ice cream might have its appeal.
>
>Cream, Skim Milk, Water, Sugar, Corn Syrup, Chocolate Flavored Flakes
>(Sugar, Hydrogenated Coconut Oil, Cocoa, Cocoa Processed with Alkali,
>Coconut Oil, Soy Lecithin, Salt, Vanilla Extract), High Fructose Corn
>Syrup, Whey, Contains Less than 2% of Mono and Diglycerides,
>Cellulose Gum, Guar Gum, Carrageenan, Natural Flavor, Yellow 5, Blue 1.
>

Gary: "It tastes great so those ingredients are there for a reason!"

>
>The reason why they add Mono and Diglycerides, Cellulose
>Gum, Guar Gum and Carrageenan is because they scrimp
>on the cream.
>
>Haagen-Dazs Chocolate Chip
>Ingredients. Cream, Skim Milk, Cane Sugar, Chocolate,
>Cocoa Processed With Alkali, Egg Yolks, Cocoa Butter,
>Vanilla Extract.
>

Fantastic. No "natural flavor", no colorants. I don't know what
"Processed With Alkali" means, but since the rest is so good, how bad
can it be?

[Cindy Hamilton]

It's also called "Dutched cocoa".

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_process_cocoa>

Cindy Hamilton

[dsi1]

It's not bad - for me. I don't care for that bitter aftertaste of bittersweet chocolate.

[Gary]

My problem with the all natural overpriced Haagen-Dazs ice cream was
that it just didn't taste all that good.

Much better is the 'horrible science experiment' Turkey Hill.

On sale: 16oz of Häagen-Dazs = about $4.00

48oz Turkey Hill = about $3.00

Do the math. That's $12 vs $3 for equal amounts and the cheap one is
delicious.

I often let my taste buds do the call on what I eat. They've never lied
to me yet.

[GM]

Well, Gary, the HD I prefer cuz' of "portion control"...

O:-)

--
GM

[Gary]

The taste, Bruce.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Can't beat the flavor of the HD Vanilla Bean. Simple ingredients too.
Cream
Skim Milk
Cane Sugar
Egg Yolks
Ground Vanilla Beans
Vanilla Extract

I buy it on BOGO for $2.75

[Gary]

Many years ago, we had a Checker's at the beach. Loved the large burgers
and fries.

Even better was "Champs" back in 1973. Loved their large burgers and ate
them often until they got shut down for using horse meat.

Horse meat is quite tasty.

[dsi1]

That's how I roll. The price or exclusivity of food is not related to taste most times. That's just arrogance and vanity doing the tasting for you. I got a box of chocolates for Christmas. I'm not a big fan of chocolates but boy were they good. Unfortunately, they were expensive. Getting more is going to be a problem. That's the breaks. 🙀

https://support.hawaiianhost.com/hc/article_attachments/360077911752/mceclip2.png

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On 1/31/2022 6:59 AM, GM wrote:
> Well, Gary, the HD I prefer cuz' of "portion control"...
>
> O:-)
>

Riiiiight..

https://postimg.cc/hfMj21W9

[Plato]

Thanks. Dutch as it may be, I'd never heard of it.

[Plato]

I've had HD once and it tasted good. Although, when it comes to ice
cream, I'll buy anything that's on special and sounds good. It's the
one thing where I don't want to know what the ingredients are. I only
stay away from the cheap ALDI brands. I don't want to look like Louis
de Funès did after he had prefab food for the first time:
<https://k.notrecinema.com/images/filmsp/l-aile-ou-la-cuisse_19441_25946.jpg>

[Pythagoras]

You're the one who brought up price and exclusivity.

[Pythagoras]

We Dutch have a saying about froggers like yoos, which is KILL YOURSELF
you loser. no friends no real job no money no sex and no hope for the
future. Loser. Ghe Ghe Ghe.

[Pythagoras]

[Pythagoras]

[Michael Trew]

I've stopped at a Checkers once or twice while traveling. Nothing there
was memorable other than those seasoned curly fries. Those were pretty
good; better than Arbys (although that isn't saying a lot).

[Samson]

Ghe? Uhm, can you go into more detail? I don't get it

[Michael Trew]

Meh, I'm good on that. I've never bought it before, so why start now?
Seems like an awful waste of plastic, plus I try to avoid plastic on
food. I have a few of those reserved plastic Chinese Tupperware take
out containers if I need to store something without tinfoil (which I
always reuse) -- as long as no hot or acidic foods go in plastic.

[Michael Trew]

You're going Bruce, haha. Thin is figurative, but I'm not morbidly
obese. I just checked, and the half gallon is just past it's use-by
date and half full. Oops. I suppose I won't buy it again.

[Delilah]

Uhm Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

[Delilah]

Michael Trew wrote:
> On 1/30/2022 19:15, Hank Rogers wrote:
>> Michael Trew wrote:
>>> On 1/29/2022 15:07, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 1/29/2022 1:17 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>>>> On 1/28/2022 9:05, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/28/2022 8:40 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>> On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 8:31:41 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 1/27/2022 6:05 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:

>>>>>>>>> You want great ice cream? It's called Häagen-Dazs, but I

>>>>>>>>> tell you, the *Specially Selected* ice creams from ALDI are

>>>>>>>>> the closest thing to Häagen-Dazs, though their flavor choices

>>>>>>>>> are, characteristic of ALDI, far more limited. Their vanilla is
>>>>>>>>> great, but they have a seasonal "Vanilla Chocolate Almond"

>>>>>>>>> that's up there with some of the best Häagen-Dazs flavors.

>>>>>>>> I've tried them all (vanilla flavor).

>>>>>>>> I paid way to much for the Häagen-Dazs on sale even.

>>>>>>>> I really wasn't impressed. Just over rated ice cream, imo.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not near as tasty as Turkey Hill brand. I guess all the extra
>>>>>>>> ingredients are there for a reason.
>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> On sale: 16oz of Häagen-Dazs = about $4.00

[Gary]

Michael Trew wrote:
> I've stopped at a Checkers once or twice while traveling.  Nothing there
> was memorable other than those seasoned curly fries.  Those were pretty
> good; better than Arbys (although that isn't saying a lot).

I never had fries at Arby's. Last time I went there their good deal was
5/$5 plain roast beef sandwiches. (Been a long time). Add their horsey
sauce and they were good.

The store is long gone (nearby) now. Panda Express now resides in that
store. I'll try them someday.

[cshenk]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 8:52:04 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> > Tony wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 01:36:09 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > > <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 4:31:18 AM UTC-5, Tony wrote:
> > > >> On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 01:29:43 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > > >> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 10:52:48 PM UTC-5, Ed
> > > Pawlowski wrote: >> >> Never say anything like this. Looks good
> > > though. Not sure what the >> >> black things are she puts in the
> > > bottom >> >>
> > > >> >> https://imgur.com/gallery/5xh8tAf
> > > >> >
> > > >> >That is way cool.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >The black things might be charnuska seeds. I added some of
> > > those >> >to a bowl of lentil soup a couple days ago.
> > > >> Of course you did. Who didn't?
> > > >
> > > > Charnushka also pairs very well with cabbage.
> > >
> > > I was just about to say that.
> >
> > Grin, it's a classic for Russian breads. Usually spelled Charnushka
> > but probably also without the second h.
>
> Nah, that was an ordinary typo. My fingers just don't seem to
> want to put that second h in there. My browser flags it as misspelled
> either way, so that's no help.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

No biggie! I gather it's good for cookies too? Haven't tried that.

Anyways, folks are right that it has many uses. Seems mostly northern
recipes ut I haven't looked under it's other names to see what else
might show.

For the Russian breads, think rustic boule types with mixed flour bases.

Here's a simple Russian brown bread from one of my cookbooks (Beard
maybe?). Breadmachine used for mixing, rest same as done by hand.

Makes a smaller 1lb loaf.

1.5 cups water
2 cups white flour (mine is 20% Spelt)
1 cup rye
2 TB butter
2 TB dark corn syrup
1 TB brown sugar
1 ts salt
2 ts yeast

Optional: Caraway, Fennel seed, or Charnushka (seed bread)
Optional 2: 1 ts instant coffee, 2-3 TB cocoa powder (Black bread)

(The optionals were added from other sources). Load machine and let
run on dough mode. Turn out to lightly floured table and shape then
place in boule pan with towel over it for 1-1.5 hours. Turn out to
preheated 500F cast iron lidded Dutch oven, score top, and bake at 450F
for 45 minutes. Remove lid last 5-7 minutes.

Good stuff!

[cshenk]

Don't worry Michael, you have plenty of company on the plastic
reductions. Last time I got cling-wrap was probably when we lived in
San Diego, 25 years ago.

I do use rubbermaid plastics for food keepers, but they get washed and
reused. Call it my little steps in being less wasteful to the land we
live on.

I try to buy minimal foods in plastic containers and when I do, I
normally have a use for the container.

[Haberdoedas]

[Haberdoedas]

[Michael Trew]

Nothing to write home about. I've tried a couple of different
locations. Basically any local Chinese food store has Panda Express
beat in quality.

[Michael Trew]

I dodge plastics whenever I can, but I do reuse little sour cream
containers and the like. Something cold or dry might get stored in
them. I always opt for glass when I can, and even though they don't
recycle glass anywhere around here, I reuse almost all glass. I even
have a couple of glass gallon pickle jars from grandma (I've never
bought them) that are great for holding home-made soup. The little ball
jars and the like I might put hot bacon grease or something into.

[jmcquown]

Yeah... plastic containers. You have more than once recommended plastic
"bento boxes" (provided links to Amazon) when I have mentioned taking
leftovers for lunch. Of course plastic containers need to have a use
and need to be able to be re-used. None of mine remotely resemble
anything from Japan. Oops.

Jill

[Mary]

On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 10:16:06 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2022-01-26 10:52 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > Never say anything like this. Looks good though. Not sure what the
> > black things are she puts in the bottom
> >
> > https://imgur.com/gallery/5xh8tAf

> I think she wet her fingers and dipped them into a bowl of poppy seeds
> or some other dark seed, then poked then into the dough. I liked the guy
> sticking the loaves into the lower reaches if the oven. Another inch or
> two and he might have fallen in.

Michael's an excellent example of American ignorance and explains how
Americans were able to vote for the Trump clown. The deplorables are
poorly educated, poorly informed, have never been out of their own
country and are easily influenced. Yet they do have the right to vote.
And there you are: Donald Trump. I can't wait for the next American
election. May I suggest Sylvester Stallone? :)

[Gary]

On 2/1/2022 8:35 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> I dodge plastics whenever I can, but I do reuse little sour cream
> containers and the like.

I use the 16 oz sour cream containers for drinking glasses (ever since I
cut the hell out of my hand washing glass containers). I still have a
few glass drinking items for guests but I never use them myself.

Any food container with a lid, I'll wash and use for other things.
My favorites are the Mrs.Kinser's various salad containers. 23oz with a
lid. I use them all the time to freeze soup, sauces, etc.

BTW, the Mrs.Kinser's salads were very good too. They were the "heavy"
salads like potato salad, macaroni salad, cole slaw, etc.

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2022-01-31, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

> Horse meat is quite tasty.

I'd eat horse meat in a heartbeat. I've never seen it for sale, and they
won't let us hunt them. Nevada is lousy with wild nags needing a
thinning out.
Luckily, the *BLM uses taxpayer dollars to round 'em up with helicopters,
transfer them in big trucks to a pen north of Reno, neuter, vaccinate
and liberate them to good homes/ranches for further processing.
That's what we're led to believe. If you're a American taxpayer, some of
your money goes to this and has been since the Seventies.
The funding keeps another worthless cell of the bureaucratic behemoth
running along with the "scientists" who study the process.

[*] That's Bureau of Land Management, not the other one

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 11:23:57 PM UTC-6, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>
> On 2022-01-31, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
>
> > Horse meat is quite tasty.
> >
> I'd eat horse meat in a heartbeat. I've never seen it for sale, and they
> won't let us hunt them. Nevada is lousy with wild nags needing a
> thinning out.
>

Supposedly it tastes just like beef but stringier.

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2022-02-01, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

> I never had fries at Arby's. Last time I went there their good deal was
> 5/$5 plain roast beef sandwiches. (Been a long time). Add their horsey
> sauce and they were good.

> The store is long gone (nearby) now. Panda Express now resides in that
> store. I'll try them someday.

Their curly fries are good. They are about a mile from my fast food
radius of restaurants. I get there once every five years.
I like Arby's. They're a bridge too far from me. Usta be one closer.

[GM]

The "other" BLM would do the same - but sell the nags for inflated prices. That way they
could garner the millions needed to keep their "leaders" living in luxury:

Even the ultra - woke media are in on the BLM' s grift:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/01/black-lives-matter-finances.html

The BLM Mystery Where did the money go?

"...Some local activists contend that little of the money raised at the national level makes its
way to their organizations or to the families of Black people killed by police. In November
2020, ten chapters of the Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation issued a public
call for greater financial accountability. “For years there has been inquiry regarding the
financial operations of BLMGNF and no acceptable process of either public or internal
transparency about the unknown millions of dollars donated to BLMGNF, which has
certainly increased during this time of pandemic and rebellion,” the chapters’ statement read..."

</>

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2022-02-03, itsjoan...@webtv.net <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

> Supposedly it tastes just like beef but stringier.

I'm thinking a good red-neck or white-trash stroganoff ;-)