attn: Midwesterners -- Jell-o isn't salad

[tert in seattle]

<http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>

it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
desserts "salad"

proving again that HL Mencken was correct

[MisterDiddyWahDiddy]

Same goes for pasta "salad" and tuna "salad." If it's not green leafy stuff,
it's not salad.

--Bryan

[John Kuthe]

Tradionally in Midwestern 20th century United States, yes.

John Kuthe...

[sf]

I've eaten that strawberry pretzel concoction and it was delicious.
Fortunately it wasn't sold as salad.

--

sf

[Opinicus]

On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:20:42 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
wrote:

>> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
>> desserts "salad"

>It's not just for dessert anymore.
Was it ever "just for dessert"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspic

--
Bob
The joint that time is out of
www.kanyak.com

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:50:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>

What are Ms. Briggs' credentials as a culinary anthropologist?

> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
> desserts "salad"
>
> proving again that HL Mencken was correct

The dictionary, which describes rather than prescribes usage, offers
this definition of "salad":

<http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/salad>

1 any of various usually cold dishes: as

a : raw greens (as lettuce) often combined with other vegetables and toppings and served especially with dressing

b : small pieces of food (as pasta, meat, fruit, or vegetables) usually mixed with a dressing (as mayonnaise) or set in gelatin

2
: a green vegetable or herb grown for salad; especially : lettuce

3
: a usually incongruous mixture : hodgepodge

Sounds like Jello salad fits a couple of those definitions.

Cindy Hamilton

[tert in seattle]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:50:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
>> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
>
> What are Ms. Briggs' credentials as a culinary anthropologist?
>
>> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
>> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
>> desserts "salad"
>>
>> proving again that HL Mencken was correct
>
> The dictionary, which describes rather than prescribes usage, offers
> this definition of "salad":
>
><http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/salad>

I didn't know that MW is "the" dictionary!

[John Kuthe]

Still letting culture tell you who to be, eh? :-(

Culture is NOT YOUR FRIEND!!

John Kuthe...

[John Kuthe]

People somehow feel more secure with something just because it's "written"!

Speaks greatly to why peole believe religions!! "Oh oh, but IT IS WRITTEN in the good book!" Who wrote the book? DUH!!

John Kuthe...

[Helpful person]

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 10:31:39 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>
> People somehow feel more secure with something just because it's "written"!
>
> Speaks greatly to why peole believe religions!! "Oh oh, but IT IS WRITTEN in the good book!" Who wrote the book? DUH!!
>
> John Kuthe...

Politicians certainly collated the book and probably wrote it too.

http://www.richardfisher.com

[Brooklyn1]

JELLO in of itself is not a salad but JELLO is often a salad dressing.

[John Kuthe]

Actually, the Christian Bible has been rewritten and recompiled by every powers that be thoughout it's history, the reign of King James being the last majorally accepted version. Many "books" were left out, and many others were rewritten to suit the Ownership class of the time. Note that the modern Christian Bibie makes NO mention of the powers each human has called intelligence and critical analysis!! It's basically a book of conformity!! :-(

Screw that!!

John Kuthe...

[Brooklyn1]

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:31:33 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
<johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 7:10:06 AM UTC-6, tert in seattle wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:50:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
>> >> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
>> >
>> > What are Ms. Briggs' credentials as a culinary anthropologist?
>> >
>> >> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
>> >> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
>> >> desserts "salad"
>> >>
>> >> proving again that HL Mencken was correct
>> >
>> > The dictionary, which describes rather than prescribes usage, offers
>> > this definition of "salad":
>> >
>> ><http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/salad>
>>
>> I didn't know that MW is "the" dictionary!
>
>People somehow feel more secure with something just because it's "written"!

Written Schmitten...
Kootchie and Bwrrryan in JELLO is a Fruit Salad! LOL

[Helpful person]

It's not a book of conformity. It's a book designed to build a power base.

http://www.richardfisher,com

[Janet B]

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:31:33 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
<johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:

what did you cook today, John?
Janet US

[John Kuthe]

Just my breakfast, so far. Made a big batch of my home made "baked beans" yesterday and added too much water to the sauce, so they turned out much like bean soup almost! OK because I eat them with lots of brown rice and chopped ham. It was delicious earlier this AM!

And I cook every day because I rarely buy any (many?) processed foods.

John Kuthe...

[John Kuthe]

Same thing!! Ever see the movie The Book Of Eli? ;-)

John Kuthe...

[The Cook]

On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:47:12 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
<te...@ftupet.com> wrote:

So how do you classify it if it has both fruit and vegetables in it?
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

[Janet B]

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:42:13 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe

<johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 9:25:56 AM UTC-6, Janet B wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:31:33 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe

snip.

>>
>> what did you cook today, John?
>> Janet US
>
>Just my breakfast, so far. Made a big batch of my home made "baked beans" yesterday and added too much water to the sauce, so they turned out much like bean soup almost! OK because I eat them with lots of brown rice and chopped ham. It was delicious earlier this AM!
>
>And I cook every day because I rarely buy any (many?) processed foods.
>
>John Kuthe...

I'd like to hear about what you cook.
Janet US

[Helpful person]

No I haven't. Ever watched the late Dave Allen? One of the all time great comedians.

http://www.richardfisher.com

[tert in seattle]

I think I'd rather see discussions of D*n*ld Tr*mp

[Cindy Hamilton]

OED was similar, although since we're talking about the American
Midwest, it didn't seem germane.

Cindy Hamilton

[tert in seattle]

The Cook wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:47:12 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
><te...@ftupet.com> wrote:
>
>><http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
>>
>>it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
>>some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
>>desserts "salad"
>>
>>proving again that HL Mencken was correct
>>
>
>
> So how do you classify it if it has both fruit and vegetables in it?

not enough info

anyhow, I would be curious to know what associations people have for the
word "salad"

I think "healthy" is one of them, even for people from the Midwest

the origins, from some website --

The word "salad" comes from the Latin sal (salt, whence the adjective
salatus, salted). The oldest English language cookbook, The Forme of
Cury, dates from the 14th century, and contains a recipe for salad
which includes lettuce, leeks and spinach served with garlic, herbs
and flowers. The first cookbook specifically about salads -- Salads
and Salad Making -- was published in 1883.

[Nancy Young]

On 3/24/2016 12:06 PM, The Cook wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:47:12 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> <te...@ftupet.com> wrote:
>
>> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
>>
>> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
>> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
>> desserts "salad"
>>
>> proving again that HL Mencken was correct

> So how do you classify it if it has both fruit and vegetables in it?

I had carrot cake salad just a couple of days ago. Had carrots and
raisins and pineapple. I do love salad. heh

nancy

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:20:06 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
> The Cook wrote:
> > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:47:12 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> ><te...@ftupet.com> wrote:
> >
> >><http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
> >>
> >>it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
> >>some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
> >>desserts "salad"
> >>
> >>proving again that HL Mencken was correct
> >>
> >
> >
> > So how do you classify it if it has both fruit and vegetables in it?
>
> not enough info
>
> anyhow, I would be curious to know what associations people have for the
> word "salad"
>
> I think "healthy" is one of them, even for people from the Midwest

Midwesterner all my life.

My associations with "salad" pretty much match the dictionary definition.
Vegetables, meat, or starch dressed with something.

"Healthy" is the devil in the details. A pile of greens and other
vegetables with a nice vinaigrette or buttermilk-based dressing is healthful.
Start crapping it up with cheese (unless it's a main-dish salad) and it
starts becoming less healthful quite rapidly. I wish restaurants would
say "Warning! Side salad has cheese!" right on their menus so I could
ask them to omit it.

Other salads, like potato salad, are less healthful from the get-go. So
many of them appear to be a vehicle for maximizing mayonnaise ingestion.

Jello salad isn't really in my culinary lexicon. I've never liked it,
although I liked plain cherry jello when I was a kid.

I had a nice Greek salad for lunch today, with some warm bread and
olive oil on the side. The feta cheese provided the protein for
the meal.

Cindy Hamilton

[notbob]

On 2016-03-24, Nancy Young <rjynlyo...@verizon.net> wrote:

> I had carrot cake salad just a couple of days ago. Had carrots and
> raisins and pineapple. I do love salad. heh

In orange Jello?

nb

[tert in seattle]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> "Healthy" is the devil in the details. A pile of greens and other
> vegetables with a nice vinaigrette or buttermilk-based dressing is healthful.
> Start crapping it up with cheese (unless it's a main-dish salad) and it
> starts becoming less healthful quite rapidly. I wish restaurants would
> say "Warning! Side salad has cheese!" right on their menus so I could
> ask them to omit it.

There are those who say the devil is in the details, and others who say
that god is in the details, but I've never heard anyone say "such-and-such

is the devil in the details."

Cheese makes it less healthful? how so?

[dsi1]

On 3/23/2016 11:47 AM, tert in seattle wrote:
> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
>
> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
> desserts "salad"
>
> proving again that HL Mencken was correct
>
>

I figured out in the early 70's that people put some weird nomenclature
on foods - including salad. I'm just surprised that anybody over the age
of 19 would still have this issue unresolved. OTOH, I did have some
seaweed salad yesterday so if somebody has some problem with calling it
that, I can see their point.

https://kawasushi.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/seaweed-salad2.jpg

[Cindy Hamilton]

I believe I coined the phrase about an hour ago, paraphrasing the
bowdlerization of Mies van der Rohe. I steal from the best.

> Cheese makes it less healthful? how so?

Fat and calories, of which I get plenty in the main dish when salad is
a side. I provided a disclaimer that "crapping it up with cheeses"
doesn't apply when the salad is a main dish.

Cindy Hamilton

[Nancy Young]

No jello. Cream cheese frosting, it's like thick salad dressing.

nancy

[tert in seattle]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 3:40:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> > "Healthy" is the devil in the details. A pile of greens and other
>> > vegetables with a nice vinaigrette or buttermilk-based dressing is healthful.
>> > Start crapping it up with cheese (unless it's a main-dish salad) and it
>> > starts becoming less healthful quite rapidly. I wish restaurants would
>> > say "Warning! Side salad has cheese!" right on their menus so I could
>> > ask them to omit it.
>>
>> There are those who say the devil is in the details, and others who say
>> that god is in the details, but I've never heard anyone say "such-and-such
>> is the devil in the details."
>
> I believe I coined the phrase about an hour ago, paraphrasing the
> bowdlerization of Mies van der Rohe. I steal from the best.

Ok ... I think most people would agree the originals (official or
colloquial versions) are more elegant.

>> Cheese makes it less healthful? how so?
>
> Fat and calories, of which I get plenty in the main dish when salad is
> a side. I provided a disclaimer that "crapping it up with cheeses"
> doesn't apply when the salad is a main dish.

You are aware I hope that the way you put it is ambiguous and suggests
that cheese is unhealthful, unless there is some standard definition
of "main dish" requiring plenty of fat and calories. And there is nothing
unhealthy about having one big meal with a fatty, high-calorie "main
dish" accompanied by a cheese-laden salad as long as you show moderation
the rest of the day (and maybe the day before and after, and go for a
nice long walk afterwards).

[Brooklyn1]

BJs sells 24 count cartons of JELLO in small plastic cups, orange
JELLO, half with fruit cocktail, half with mandarin orange sections, I
just yesterday put a full case in the fridge... nice to have for a
snack. I also make box JELLO from scratch, I like lemon, lime, and
other flavors. The small containers often work out better because
when I make a whole large box I'm apt to start eating and eat the
entire big bowlful in one sitting. I got a half dozen beautiful
bananas too and I like JELLO with sliced bananas in it. I'll prepare
two large boxes of no-sugar and I use about 25% less water, I like
JELLO firm but still somewhat jiggly, like teenage bosoms. BJs also
sells 24 count cartons of tapioca pudding, half vanilla, half cinnamon
flavored, I got that too... a couple of my cats love vanilla tapioca
pudding, they don't like cinnamon. I've always liked JELLO, used to
be featured as dessert at Chinese restaurants... I still like a bowl
of JELLO, vanilla ice cream, and kumquats... that's my favorite word
to say; K U M Q U A T.

[John Kuthe]

When I was a tennager, we used to call Jell-O "wobbly shit"!

John Kuthe...

[sf]

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:03:18 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
<te...@ftupet.com> wrote:

> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:50:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
> >> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
> >
> > What are Ms. Briggs' credentials as a culinary anthropologist?
> >

> >> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
> >> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
> >> desserts "salad"
> >>
> >> proving again that HL Mencken was correct
> >

> > The dictionary, which describes rather than prescribes usage, offers
> > this definition of "salad":
> >
> ><http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/salad>
>
> I didn't know that MW is "the" dictionary!

It is in the USA.

--

sf

[sf]

I don't think very many posters here buy processed foods, Julie as the
notable exception.

--

sf

[sf]

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:18:44 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I wish restaurants would
> say "Warning! Side salad has cheese!" right on their menus so I could
> ask them to omit it.

Yes, me too... it's usually big chain restaurants, so I should know
better - but I don't eat at them very often, so I am always surprised.

>
> Other salads, like potato salad, are less healthful from the get-go. So
> many of them appear to be a vehicle for maximizing mayonnaise ingestion.
>
> Jello salad isn't really in my culinary lexicon. I've never liked it,
> although I liked plain cherry jello when I was a kid.

I haven't eaten them very often, but I don't dislike them. At least I
don't dislike what I remember and now that he reminded me about jello
"salad", I'm thinking about bringing one to the Easter gathering.

>
> I had a nice Greek salad for lunch today, with some warm bread and
> olive oil on the side. The feta cheese provided the protein for
> the meal.
>

I've never grown to like salads like that. They're in the jello salad
category for me, except I never consider making one.

--

sf

[sf]

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:34:07 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
<te...@ftupet.com> wrote:

> Cheese makes it less healthful? how so?

Cheese spoil salad for me. I dislike both cheddar (in particular) and
feta on a salad. The only cheese I don't object to is parmesan, but I
leave it off when given a choice.

--

sf

[Cindy Hamilton]

Thanks for the lecture. I'll keep doing what I'm doing; I've lost
60 pounds.

Cindy Hamilton

[jmcquown]

Kudos! :)

Jill

[Nancy2]

That's funny, nancy....great description...and those healthy carrots
and fruit! LOL.

N.

[Gary]

Sadly, I think she emailed about half of those pounds to me. ;-o

[Nancy Young]

On 3/25/2016 8:26 AM, Nancy2 wrote:

> That's funny, nancy....great description...and those healthy carrots
> and fruit! LOL.

(laugh) Salad is in the eye of the beholder, apparently.
I haven't even seen any kind of Jello concoction in years,
but I never heard of it being called salad. Jello mold.

If I was told there would be salad, and out came Jello
with stuff in it, I would be quite surprised.

nancy

[notbob]

On 2016-03-25, Nancy Young <rjynlyo...@verizon.net> wrote:

> If I was told there would be salad, and out came Jello
> with stuff in it, I would be quite surprised.

....or somewhere where Jello salads were not popular.

I recall seeing a Jello salad in the salad cold case in a Greyhound
bus terminal's cafeteria. Cottage cheese and/or coleslaw in grn or
org Jello. Fruit cocktail in red Jello was a 50s/60s std. Even our
school cafeteria served it. That's as close to "dessert" as Jello
ever got, unless you like Ambrosia salads, the one's with Jello cubes
and cool hwhip. (bleh)

nb

[Dave Smith]

I remember it being called Jelly Salad.... back in the 50s. It would be
yellow, orange or green Jello with shredded carrots and cabbage. I have
a faint recollection of one with cottage cheese in it. Then there was
jelly fruit salad, Jello loaded with bits of fruit. I liked that much
more.

[Opinicus]

On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 08:40:17 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>> > Thanks for the lecture. I'll keep doing what I'm doing; I've lost
>> > 60 pounds.

>Sadly, I think she emailed about half of those pounds to me. ;-o

That's the Law of the Conservation of Fat in action. The sum total of
fat in the universe is constant: it is neither created nor destroyed.
If fat is reduced in one place it must increase somewhere else. Being
three-dimensional, fat diminishes in intensity as the inverse cube of
the distance traveled. This explains why people nearest to someone
losing weight are the most at risk of gaining it.

--
Bob
The joint that time is out of
www.kanyak.com

[tert in seattle]

No prob Cinders - I'm here to help. Fantastic work on the weight loss.
Personally I'm 20 lb below my peak, and have 10 to go. Here's something
interesting I probably won't follow up on:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/03/160324133024.htm

"Voice-controlled nutrition tracker may aid weight loss"

[Nunya Bidnits]

"Dave Smith" wrote in message news:j1cJy.29303$HL.2...@fx41.iad...

>I remember it being called Jelly Salad.... back in the 50s. It would be
>yellow, orange or green Jello with shredded carrots and cabbage. I have a
>faint recollection of one with cottage cheese in it. Then there was jelly
>fruit salad, Jello loaded with bits of fruit. I liked that much more.

I often encountered the Jello-cottage cheese combo as a youngster. It's hard
to imagine a nastier texture.

[Doris Night]

How about the rainbow ones done in a bundt pan with different layers
of colours? You could do either fruit or vegetable ones. Just match
the colour of jello to the colour of the fruit. Those took all day to
make.

Doris

[dsi1]

You might like a halo-halo

http://manilarules.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Icebergs-Halo-halo.jpg

[Nancy Young]

On 3/25/2016 10:36 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-03-25 10:08 AM, Nancy Young wrote:

>> (laugh) Salad is in the eye of the beholder, apparently.
>> I haven't even seen any kind of Jello concoction in years,
>> but I never heard of it being called salad. Jello mold.

> I remember it being called Jelly Salad.... back in the 50s. It would be
> yellow, orange or green Jello with shredded carrots and cabbage.

I've heard of this but it seems unappealing. Must be better
than it sounds.

> I have
> a faint recollection of one with cottage cheese in it. Then there was
> jelly fruit salad, Jello loaded with bits of fruit. I liked that much
> more.

This one time I remember someone serving a Jello mold, it had layers.
I think the hostess said that there was cream cheese whipped into it
and it formed layers.

nancy

[Brooklyn1]

Congratulations! Pictures of the new you?

[sf]

On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 15:14:08 -0400, Nancy Young
<rjynlyo...@verizon.net> wrote:

> This one time I remember someone serving a Jello mold, it had layers.
> I think the hostess said that there was cream cheese whipped into it
> and it formed layers.

It's not "magic" jello, like "magic" cake. Layering jello takes time
and patience. I made those 7 layer jello "jigglers" a couple of times
and it took all night. They're more fun to eat than they are to make.

--

sf

[Nunya Bidnits]

On 3/25/2016 11:31 AM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> It's hard to imagine a nastier texture.

For those of you who still think Nunya Shitlips (AKA MartyB in KC) is
some quasi-benevolent troll, submitted from the real world archives of
RFC circa 2011, for your reading pleasure:

______________________________________________________________________________________

The Inconvenient Truth wrote:

7/21/2011 11:57 AM
rec.food.cooking, alt.sports.football.pro.gb-packers

> Post flames are like getting the silver in the Olympics.
>
> Even if you win, you still lose.
>
> I am warning you now for the last time. I am not a snitch. But if you
try to
> email me one more virsus like you did yesterday, you're getting a
visit from
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________________________________________________________________________________________

[Julie Bove]

"Nancy Young" <rjynlyo...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:hDbJy.2320572$CS4.2...@fx03.fr7...

I've made Jell-O salad but not all Jell-O is salad.

When I was pregnant, I was supposed to eat snacks. I didn't want to. But I
found that by portioning the food out into Jell-O, I could better eat it. I
used those tiny disposable cups so it really was small amounts. For one, I
used a combination of berries, cooked in a red Jell-O and the vanilla
pudding powder. The end result was supposed to be like pie filling.

The other was the actual salad. I used a citrus flavor Jell-O and added
chopped veggies. Always used carrot and celery but might also add green
onion if I had it and sometimes some pecans or walnuts.

For the holidays when I was growing up, we had Cranberry salad. It was a
mix of chopped cranberries, celery, and perhaps some apple and orange. Also
pecans. Calls for cranberry Jell-O which I think is no longer made. So mom
switched to using orange. Original recipe also called for a lot of sugar.

I changed this up to contain less carbs by leaving out the apple and orange
and using orange zest instead. I use pretty much equal parts of
cranberries, celery and nuts and just enough Jell-O to hold it together.
Sugar free of course and some artificial sweetener.

[Julie Bove]

"notbob" <not...@nothome.com> wrote in message
news:dll0fh...@mid.individual.net...

I guess you don't remember the 1-2-3? This is a recipe but you used to be
able to buy this from Jell-O. I loved making it as a child and watching it
set up. But I didn't like to eat it.

[Julie Bove]

"Dave Smith" <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:j1cJy.29303$HL.2...@fx41.iad...

My mom did a layered one. Lemon or lime with pineapple or pears on the
bottom. Top was whipped with cream cheese (ick) or cottage cheese.

[Nancy2]

nancy, around here, we usually say, "Jello salad," if that's what intended.
I don't go to buffet restaurants, so I don't know if they are available
commercially, but home cooks certainly make them. And they are found
at church suppers.

I am not too proud to say I like some of the "old standards," like Perfection
Salad, and Sunshine Salad.

N.

[Cheri]

"Nancy2" <ellor...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:97f1120a-6d7a-4835...@googlegroups.com...

I like some of them too.

Cheri

[Gary]

I haven't had any Jello in forever. Mom used to make it when I was a
kid. She would often add a small can of fruit cocktail to it. Not bad.

My favorite was either orange or cherry with sliced banana then topped
with a scoop of vanilla ice cream. I might do that again soon for old
times sake. :)

[Nancy Young]

On 3/26/2016 8:34 AM, Nancy2 wrote:

> nancy, around here, we usually say, "Jello salad," if that's what intended.

Aha. Makes sense.

> I don't go to buffet restaurants, so I don't know if they are available
> commercially, but home cooks certainly make them. And they are found
> at church suppers.
>
> I am not too proud to say I like some of the "old standards," like Perfection
> Salad, and Sunshine Salad.

I feel like I have read about the Perfection salad here before. Makes
me recall it has celery, let me check. Yeah, cabbage, celery, green
pepper, etc. It's really hard to picture, but hey, if you like it, who
am I to say?

Okay, not that it's ever stopped me before.

nancy

[Brooklyn1]

On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 06:58:29 -0700, "Cheri" <che...@newsguy.com>
wrote:

All sorts of JELLO salads were very popular in the military... they
were left for the baker to prepare at night so they'd have time to set
up for the next day... I didn't mind except for lugging those ten
gallon rectangular SS tubs halfway to the other end of the ship and
down two decks to the walk-in reefer... had to lay sheets of waxed
paper on the surface to keep it from sloshing over the top while
carrying and when the ship would constantly pitch and roll, also had
to tie the tub down to the reefer shelving.
Click on Salads, scroll to Jellied Salads:
http://www.quartermaster.army.mil/jccoe/publications/recipes/index/full_index.pdf

[Nancy Young]

On 3/24/2016 6:03 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:03:17 -0400, Nancy Young
> <rjynlyo...@verizon.net> wrote:

>> No jello. Cream cheese frosting, it's like thick salad dressing.

> BJs sells 24 count cartons of JELLO in small plastic cups, orange
> JELLO, half with fruit cocktail, half with mandarin orange sections, I
> just yesterday put a full case in the fridge... nice to have for a
> snack.

That sounds good. Unfortunately for Jello, I don't generally
have it unless I'm taking a break from solid food for some reason.
I just don't think of it, oh, let me make a bowl of Jello.

I'm a cookie/candy/cake dessert type of person.

> I also make box JELLO from scratch, I like lemon, lime, and
> other flavors.

I like the lemon and lime, too. I don't think there is a bad
flavor.

> sells 24 count cartons of tapioca pudding, half vanilla, half cinnamon
> flavored, I got that too... a couple of my cats love vanilla tapioca
> pudding, they don't like cinnamon.

I remember Curly Sue bought Kozy Shack rice pudding for her cats.
I never heard of such a thing. Maybe I'll try it on my kook.
She loves people food.

> I've always liked JELLO, used to
> be featured as dessert at Chinese restaurants... I still like a bowl
> of JELLO, vanilla ice cream, and kumquats... that's my favorite word
> to say; K U M Q U A T.

I prefer to say Sheboygan. Or onomatopoeia.

nancy

[Gary]

Nancy Young wrote:
>
> I remember Curly Sue bought Kozy Shack rice pudding for her cats.
> I never heard of such a thing. Maybe I'll try it on my kook.
> She loves people food.

Try it on yourself first, Nancy. It's pretty tasty. :)

[Cheri]

"Brooklyn1" wrote in message news:ol9dfb14990k6b9eo...@4ax.com...

All sorts of JELLO salads were very popular in the military... they
were left for the baker to prepare at night so they'd have time to set
up for the next day... I didn't mind except for lugging those ten
gallon rectangular SS tubs halfway to the other end of the ship and
down two decks to the walk-in reefer... had to lay sheets of waxed
paper on the surface to keep it from sloshing over the top while
carrying and when the ship would constantly pitch and roll, also had
to tie the tub down to the reefer shelving.
Click on Salads, scroll to Jellied Salads:

=====

Yes, they're great fillers, but I wouldn't want to deal with carrying them far
like that.

Cheri

[Cheri]

"Gary" wrote in message news:56F6B17F...@att.net...

==========

My mom made them often with fruit cocktail, I like it with lots of canned
pineapple, coconut,and walnuts so that not much of the Jell-O is plain. I hate
plain Jell-O.

Cheri

[Brooklyn1]

With all this JELLO talk not two hours ago I made up two large boxes
of sugar-free lime JELLO with two sliced bananas... I've got two
quarts of JELLO curing in the fridge. At the same time I caramelized
a whole three pound bag of onions for tonight's burger... amazing how
caramelizing all that onion results in less than 2 cups.

[Brooklyn1]

On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 12:12:40 -0400, Nancy Young

A Sheboygan must be one of those weird sexual orientation surgical
procedures. hehe

[Gary]

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> I caramelized
> a whole three pound bag of onions for tonight's burger... amazing how
> caramelizing all that onion results in less than 2 cups.

I just bought some fresh ground beef this morning. I've been missing
hamburgers. I'll just put a large slice (large onions) of raw onion on
each burger. Will also cook either home fries or tater tots to go
along with the burgers.

[cshenk]

sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:42:13 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Just my breakfast, so far. Made a big batch of my home made "baked
> > beans" yesterday and added too much water to the sauce, so they
> > turned out much like bean soup almost! OK because I eat them with
> > lots of brown rice and chopped ham. It was delicious earlier this
> > AM!
> >
> > And I cook every day because I rarely buy any (many?) processed
> > foods.
>
> I don't think very many posters here buy processed foods, Julie as the
> notable exception.

Actually I think all of us buy some, and some more than others. Today
it's all fresh stuff.

Duck meat Beans.

3/4-1lb cooked duck meat
8oz dry white beans
2 medium onions (one red)
2 shallots
2ts chicken bullion
1/2ts Pepper black blend from Pensey's)
3 dashes sea salt with red pepper blend (1/4ts?)
water (about 8 cups then check and add if needed)

[cshenk]

Brooklyn1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Interesting but the Navy changed ater you left. I reall the rare jello
treat, but it was not at all common. Might show every 2 months if that.

--

[Janet B]

On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 12:12:40 -0400, Nancy Young
<rjynlyo...@verizon.net> wrote:

snip

>
>I prefer to say Sheboygan. Or onomatopoeia.
>
>nancy

Are you a Sheboyganite? North, South or Central High?
Janet US

[Sqwertz]

On 3/25/2016 10:39 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> You almost said that with a straight face.
You criminally STALK and ABUSE women, you sick little dwarfy man!

Here's what you did when you went all over the Usenet impersonating the
well-liked regular named "sf" and posting all her personal data on the
net against her will, including her:

* home address
* age
* cell phone number
* husband's name

etc.

YOU did that, you evil bastard!

And then you had the hubris to actually GLOAT about in public saying:

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swe...@cluemail.compost
<1qauy6zyozuo9$.d...@sqwertz.com>
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:18:00 -0600
MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4
ab...@blocknews.net


She should call the cops. I've already publicly admitted it is me so
a conviction should be a piece of cake and then forging would stop.
So what's stopping her? I think she suffers from Bovism - she just
loves the attention and drama and screw the rest of the group.

-sw

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


And before that you literally stalked poor Omelet, a local Auustin
favorite, right off the Usenet!

In your worst moment ever you actually begged her to KILL you:

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swe...@cluemail.compost
<i6x4dy0h0232$.d...@sqwertz.com>
3/18/2011 3:49 PM
Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162
readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs
fa35d278.newsreader.readnews.com


Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then after having your nose rubbed in your filthy criminal stalking you
came back with, not an apology, nor the slightest remorse, just this:


"The facebook group is much more pleasant."


But we all know that's only because you cower over there in mortal fear
of being booted by the FB admins.

You're _so done_ here virus, I mean really fucking done.

I'm making you a project like no other, expect a lot more of your evil
abuse and hatred to be aired for all to see here.

And we both know there's a google archive full of your hatred of women
just waiting to be hung out on the virtual clothesline to dry.

Enjoy then, you rotten, worthless misogynistic bastard!

[Nancy Young]

On 3/26/2016 4:23 PM, Janet B wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 12:12:40 -0400, Nancy Young
> <rjynlyo...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> snip
>>
>> I prefer to say Sheboygan. Or onomatopoeia.

> Are you a Sheboyganite? North, South or Central High?

No, sorry, I just like that word. I don't know anything about
the place aside from it being in Wisconsin. At least, one
Sheboygan is, there might be more.

nancy

[Janet B]

On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 17:13:06 -0400, Nancy Young

<rjynlyo...@verizon.net> wrote:

>On 3/26/2016 4:23 PM, Janet B wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 12:12:40 -0400, Nancy Young
>> <rjynlyo...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> snip
>>>
>>> I prefer to say Sheboygan. Or onomatopoeia.
>
>> Are you a Sheboyganite? North, South or Central High?
>
>No, sorry, I just like that word. I don't know anything about
>the place aside from it being in Wisconsin. At least, one
>Sheboygan is, there might be more.
>
>nancy

The other one is Cheboygan, Michigan.
Janet US

[Nancy2]

I am rather fond of the words, Poughkeepsie, Atchafalaya, and
Natchitoches. Oh, and don't forget Tallahatchee...made famous by
Bobbi Gentry.

N.

[Janet B]

You write the song. . .but it's going to be a son-of-a-gun finding
rhyming words for some of those places.
Janet US

[Brooklyn1]

Poughkeepsie is a short drive south of me.
I had a shipmate, the 'Aliquippa' Kid:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliquippa,_Pennsylvania

[Nancy Young]

On 3/26/2016 6:09 PM, Janet B wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 17:13:06 -0400, Nancy Young
> <rjynlyo...@verizon.net> wrote:

>> No, sorry, I just like that word. I don't know anything about
>> the place aside from it being in Wisconsin. At least, one
>> Sheboygan is, there might be more.

> The other one is Cheboygan, Michigan.

Ah! Thanks. Wow, that's up there, nowhere near my sil in Novi.

nancy

[Julie Bove]

"cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:gPSdnfiz-5Dtf2vL...@giganews.com...

> sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:42:13 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Just my breakfast, so far. Made a big batch of my home made "baked
>> > beans" yesterday and added too much water to the sauce, so they
>> > turned out much like bean soup almost! OK because I eat them with
>> > lots of brown rice and chopped ham. It was delicious earlier this
>> > AM!
>> >
>> > And I cook every day because I rarely buy any (many?) processed
>> > foods.
>>
>> I don't think very many posters here buy processed foods, Julie as the
>> notable exception.
>
> Actually I think all of us buy some, and some more than others. Today
> it's all fresh stuff.

<snip>

If you are buying butter, you are buying a processed food. I suppose the
same could even be said for salt or dried herbs. Sheesh. We can't all live
on farms and such.

[Julie Bove]

"cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote in message

news:xaqdnTg9D5AaeWvL...@giganews.com...

Would you believe that it wasn't even available at the hospital when I was
last in there? That was a shocker. I did not feel like eating but needed
to with my meds so I asked for that but they didn't have any. They had no
menu either which was weird.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Kalamazoo (Glenn Miller).

Cindy Hamilton

[Gary]

Remember this song?

Taking a trip up to Abergavenny
Hoping the weather is fine
If you should see a red dog running free
Well, you know he's mine

[taxed and spent]

"Cindy Hamilton" <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c5d0b51c-eab3-478c...@googlegroups.com...

that one is easy. rhymes with oooh and whooo.

[Nancy Young]

Those are also good words, too.

And who wouldn't want to go to Poughkeepsie. Heh.

nancy

[S Viemeister]

On 3/27/2016 9:41 AM, taxed and spent wrote:
> "Cindy Hamilton" <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>> Kalamazoo (Glenn Miller).
>>
>
> that one is easy. rhymes with oooh and whooo.
>

Also zoo, goo and Pooh.

[notbob]

On 2016-03-27, taxed and spent <pleas...@spamme.com> wrote:

> that one is easy. rhymes with oooh and whooo.

We're dealing with rhymes? I thought it was jes cities that sound
weird. One of my faves is Gloucester ....pronounced GLOS-ter. ;)

nb

[tert in seattle]

I'm surprised no one mentioned Schenecktedy (?sp)

[notbob]

On 2016-03-27, tert in seattle <te...@ftupet.com> wrote:

> I'm surprised no one mentioned Schenecktedy (?sp)

Have you tried actually looking it up through a browser?? Even the
most common browser will correct your bad spelling.

"We have included schenectady."

The line above is my non-Gobble browser suggesting the proper
spelling. Duh.

nb

[Brooklyn1]

>that one is easy. rhymes with oooh and whooo.

Bucket o' poo.

[Cindy Hamilton]

We started talking about making songs using some of those odd
place names. Songs are more catchy when there's a rhyme.

Cindy Hamilton

[brain sand]

On 3/27/2016 10:49 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> Songs are more catchy when there's a rhyme.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwSRqaZGsPw

[Gregory Morrow]

I like Cucamonga, from the old Jack Benny radio show...

__
Best
Greg

[Cheryl]

Poughkeepsie - tipsy gypsy
Atchafalaya - jambalaya
Natchitoches - acorn squash
Tallahatchee - classy Cassie

Ok, I cheated a bit but that was a fun challenge!

--
ღ.¸¸.✫*¨`*✶
Cheryl

[Janet B]

On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 20:30:41 -0400, Cheryl <jlhs...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Just so that isn't stuck in your head like an ear worm.
There's a ladies' shop here call Fussy Hussy. I like that. . .it
should be a rhyme for something.
Janet US

[cshenk]

Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Why did you snip the recipe you were replying to?

Among other things, it had none of what you quote.
--

[Julie Bove]

"cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote in message

news:c--dnS8Rp4o7EWXL...@giganews.com...

I snipped it because I wasn't referring to it. I was referring to the
comment on processed food.

[tert in seattle]

haha non "jes" Bob cares about spelling

[sf]

On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 17:08:35 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle

Always the nit picker unless it's his own nits. He never picks those.

--

sf