Black bean and oat patties from ChatGPT

[Bruce]

I asked ChatGPT for a recipe for vegan black bean and oat patties and
look what it said:

Ingredients:

1 can (15 ounces) black beans, drained and rinsed
1 cup rolled oats
1/2 cup finely chopped onion
2 cloves garlic, minced
1/4 cup chopped fresh parsley
2 tablespoons nutritional yeast (optional, for added flavor)
2 tablespoons tomato paste
1 tablespoon soy sauce or tamari
1 teaspoon ground cumin
1/2 teaspoon smoked paprika
Salt and pepper to taste
2-3 tablespoons olive oil (for cooking)

Instructions:

In a large bowl, mash the black beans with a fork or potato masher
until they are mostly mashed but still have some texture.

Add the rolled oats, onion, garlic, parsley, nutritional yeast (if
using), tomato paste, soy sauce or tamari, cumin, smoked paprika,
salt, and pepper to the bowl. Mix well to combine all the ingredients.

Let the mixture sit for about 10-15 minutes to allow the oats to
absorb some of the moisture.

Shape the mixture into patties using your hands. The size and
thickness of the patties can be adjusted according to your preference.

Preheat a skillet or frying pan over medium heat and add olive
oil.

Once the oil is hot, carefully place the patties in the pan. Cook
for about 4-5 minutes on each side, or until they are browned and
firm.

Remove the patties from the pan and place them on a paper
towel-lined plate to absorb any excess oil.

Serve the black bean and oat patties as desired. They can be
enjoyed on burger buns, in wraps, or on top of salads. Add your
favorite toppings and condiments to enhance the flavors.

These vegan black bean and oat patties are versatile and can be
customized to your liking. You can experiment with different spices
and herbs, such as chili powder or fresh cilantro, to give them your
own twist. Enjoy your delicious homemade vegan patties!

[Michael Trew]

Holy crap, Bruce started a new thread? Cooking subject to boot? This
might be a first... ;)

Honestly, these sound really good. I don't stock tomato paste (or
nutritional yeast -- whatever that is), but I don't think that omitting
that part would ruin them. I might have to try these.

[dsi1]

Nutritional yeast is artificial MSG flavoring.

[Bruce]

Nah.

>Honestly, these sound really good. I don't stock tomato paste (or
>nutritional yeast -- whatever that is), but I don't think that omitting
>that part would ruin them. I might have to try these.

I'm not a vegan, but these patties sound interesting to me too. You
could replace nutritional yeast with grated cheese. Vegans use it
instead of that.

[Bruce]

It's not artificial. But let's not get into it. The word MSG seems to
get you all worked up every time.

[dsi1]

I merely speak the truth - a pretty funny truth. Nutritional yeast is indeed used to avoid citing MSG in the ingredient list. It's the same idea as using celery juice in cured meats so the product can be labeled as having "No Nitrates!" I don't get "worked up" with MSG. I've been using it for decades. I am, however, easily able to recognize a scam when I see one and find it quite amusing.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 19:18:41 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

Nutritional yeast is a very useful product, especially for vegans. I
sometimes sprinkle a bit of nutritional yeast instead of grated cheese
on things. Lots of flavour, no saturated fat.

And you were wrong. It's not artificial. Sorry, you lost face. Your
face is currently boarding in Honolulu Harbor.

[dsi1]

It was a joke. You also have no concept of face. That must suck.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 20:26:37 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

I can handle being wrong, if that's what you mean. I just don't have
much experience with it :)

[dsi1]

You don't understand the concept and yet you use the word in a promiscuous manner. Ick.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 20:34:18 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

Are you far from the harbor? Hop to it!

[Cindy Hamilton]

I always have a small can of tomato paste on hand, and usually part
of one squeezed flat in a ziploc in the freezer. Any recipe that
calls for 1 or 2 tablespoons of tomato paste is no problem. Just
break off a hunk from the frozen stuff, and I'm off to the races.

Since you're not a vegan, you can substitute parmesan cheese for the
nutritional yeast.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[jmcquown]

It may well be a first. :)

> Honestly, these sound really good.  I don't stock tomato paste (or
> nutritional yeast -- whatever that is), but I don't think that omitting
> that part would ruin them.  I might have to try these.

Oh, tomato paste is easy enough to freeze in small quantities.
Nutritional yeast *allegedly* tastes a bit like cheese. The recipe does
say the nutritional yeast is optional.

Jill

[Thomas]

My buddy asked gpt for a poem for his first grade kid. Small parameters were given.
The kid won first place. Big event here in Luzerne county PA.
Disgusting if you ask me.

[Thomas]

https://postimg.cc/gallery/3YzV5GV
The poem and first place event.

[GM]

Nice lil' poem...

--
GM

[Bruce]

On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 16:31:39 -0700 (PDT), Thomas <cano...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Yes, it's cheating. School assignment: "Write an essay about the
importance of Confucius in traditional Chinese society." ChatGPT, here
I come!

[Bruce]

On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 16:40:30 -0700 (PDT), Thomas <cano...@gmail.com>
wrote:

LOL, who knew it was ChatGPT, the kid, the father, you, anybody else?

[Thomas]

The kid, the father, not me. No one knows.

[Michael Trew]

I don't think I've ever bought tomato paste. I make tomato paste from
roma flesh when I make tomato sauce in August, by flash-peeling,
scooping out the insides, and roasting them in the oven until a thick
paste. I've never found a use for it, aside from tomato sauce. Perhaps
my cooking is too limited.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-06-30, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
>
> I don't think I've ever bought tomato paste. I make tomato paste from
> roma flesh when I make tomato sauce in August, by flash-peeling,
> scooping out the insides, and roasting them in the oven until a thick
> paste. I've never found a use for it, aside from tomato sauce. Perhaps
> my cooking is too limited.

Ya think?

A tablespoon or two of tomato paste adds a nice background to all
sorts of dishes, without making them tomato-y.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[jmcquown]

Exactly right, Cindy. I add a dab of tomato paste to my beef stew
(which does not contain tomatoes). It adds a little depth without
making it taste like tomatoes.

Jill

[Dave Smith]

My wife always adds it to braised meats like stew, short ribs and
oxtails. I added about 1/3 of a can of it to my pasta sauce last night
and it was way better than just passata.

[jmcquown]

Tomato paste is fairly innocuous but a Tbs. of it does add a bit of
depth to gravies and sauces.

Jill

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2023-06-30, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Exactly right, Cindy. I add a dab of tomato paste to my beef stew
> (which does not contain tomatoes). It adds a little depth without
> making it taste like tomatoes.

Which reminds me, I made a beef stew, differently than I usually do, last
night. I actually browned the meat, other than using BtB exclusively.
I bought haricots verts instead of those lousy canned green beans that I
normally use, and...it was OK.
What I forgot was the small can of tomato sauce that I normally add. It
ain't tomato paste, but it would have made the stew better than OK.
This thread made me #aware of my mistake.

[Bruce]

On 1 Jul 2023 20:47:12 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell

<leobla...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 2023-06-30, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Exactly right, Cindy. I add a dab of tomato paste to my beef stew
>> (which does not contain tomatoes). It adds a little depth without
>> making it taste like tomatoes.
>
>Which reminds me, I made a beef stew, differently than I usually do, last
>night. I actually browned the meat, other than using BtB exclusively.
>I bought haricots verts instead of those lousy canned green beans that I
>normally use, and...it was OK.

What's the difference? Haricot vert is green bean in French.

[dsi1]

I had some beef stew that had the meat grilled on a charcoal hibachi first. Browning the stew meat is something that everyone says improves the flavor of the stew but I've mostly abandoned that practice. My stews taste just fine. Grilling the meat on a hibachi does have a noticeable effect. I enjoyed that stew! OTOH, I'm not going to be doing that either. I ain't crazy, but I might be lazy.

[Hank Rogers]

Go forth, and sin no more my son.

Remember, add only a dab of tomato paste. Any more that 1 tiny
dab will surely fuck your vittles up.

[dsi1]

What a waste of a computer. You don't need a computer to tell you how to cook up beans and oats - just imagination. OTOH, this use of AI might be right up rfc's alley.

https://www.techradar.com/computing/software/chatgpt-is-now-a-brilliant-tool-for-winding-up-telemarketers-and-scammers

[Bruce]

On Sat, 1 Jul 2023 14:21:07 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:

I had to check if this was dsi1 or GM. The line is becoming thinner.

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2023-07-01, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> What's the difference? Haricot vert is green bean in French.

I unintentionally lied about the beef stew with haricots verts. We had
that dish on the 29th. Haricots verts are far classier than green beans.
The name says it all. If I'd added wine to my stew, I could have made a
variation on Beef Bourguignon, so much more elegant off the lips, in
upscale company, than "stew".
Last night, thanks to Marie Callender, we had "shrimp scampi".

[dsi1]

Point taken. I don't ever want to be confused with GM. Please forgive my temporary failure in judgement. I must make amends. I think we all know what that means.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBN5KSLg_9Q

[GM]

Aloha, Unca Tojo...!!!

;-D

--
GM

[Bruce]

On 1 Jul 2023 21:51:27 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell

<leobla...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 2023-07-01, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> What's the difference? Haricot vert is green bean in French.
>
>
>I unintentionally lied about the beef stew with haricots verts. We had
>that dish on the 29th. Haricots verts are far classier than green beans.

Why? Are they baby green beans? Dainty lil' things?

>The name says it all.

It says green beans.

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2023-07-02, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> It says green beans.


Green beans don't roll of the tongue like haricots verts in #woke
company.

[Bruce]

On 2 Jul 2023 02:32:51 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell

The French equivalent of Leo Blaisdell, Monsieur Léo Blaisedelle,
calls green beans haricots verts. There's nothing woke or fancy about
it.

[dsi1]

They’re starting to use machines more and more for animal husbandry and crop harvesting. It’s pretty amazing
stuff actually. Youtube some videos to see robots shaking cherry and olive trees, automated carrot/potato/onion
harvesting, robot strawberry and raspberry picking. Northern Europe, with the fewest north african migrants, has
been at the forefront of machine adoption, because they can’t get people to work in their fields (or their government
flat out reject immigrants).

Squatting to pick crops is a 10,000 year old technology and it’s about a time a robot does it for us.

[songbird]

dsi1 wrote:
...

> Squatting to pick crops is a 10,000 year old technology and it’s about a time a robot does it for us.

some of us like regular meaningful exercise and gardening
is much more pleasant and interesting than working out a
gym. the only thing i'd like to improve upon is deer fences
and the chipmunk population.

50-300 leg bends and squats each gardening day is pretty
good for both my legs and my lower back.

some days if there is enough room i have a ground pillow
(which is not like ground beef) to sit on and will use that
instead, it's for more slow moving tasks and where i will
enjoy a while of contemplating things from a closer
perspective. the pillow also comes in handy for kneeling
and saving the knees.


songbird