OT: When a store pisses you off

[Bryan Simmons]

Filling up a cart with various items--the more, the better--and
abandoning the cart costs them wages to "re-shop" the items. Just don't do it with perishable food, because that would be immoral. Some folks don't enjoy retribution. Intellectually, I know this, but it's still a little hard to wrap my mind around. Managers should make a real effort to not send customers away pissed off. It's not in their company's best interest. Perhaps the enjoyment of retribution is a bell curve sort of thing, in which case, there are outliers. Since I
have worked in retail, I know how time consuming it can be to work "re-shop." I think you get the picture.

--Bryan

[Bruce]

Very childish.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 1:32:45 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 09:19:43 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
> <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Filling up a cart with various items--the more, the better--and
> >abandoning the cart costs them wages to "re-shop" the items.
> >

> Very childish.
>
Agree. If a store pisses you off, just shop at another one and don't give
the original offending store your business.

[Bruce]

That's it.

[Ed P]

So punish some low paid worker for what corporate did. May you enjoy
some karma.

[Dave Smith]

There is a butcher shop.deli about two miles down the road from me that
had a really good business for years and was famous for his sausages.
He also got a bad name for himself for the way he treated his staff. He
is a miserable prick and yells and screams at his staff, even in front
of the customers. People started calling him the meat Nazi and stopped
shopping there. Then about a year and a half ago he was charged with
sexually assaulting at least four of his female staff. He somehow
manages to stay open, but I don't know how because they parking lot that
used to be pull of cars most of the time is now almost always empty.

[Dave Smith]

On 2023-04-08 2:43 p.m., itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

I confess to having left carts fill of groceries. Actually, I did it a
couple times in the same store and then started shopping elsewhere. It
had more than a dozen checkout counters but usually only had two or
three open and there were always huge line ups. A couple times I had
picked up ice cream last, so that it was less likely to melt before I
got home. On these two occasions it didn't even make it to the checkout.
I was stuck in line so long that the ice cream had melted enough that
it was dripping out of the container. I moved the cart out of the line
and walked out in disgust. Not surprisingly, that store didn't lat very
long. Maybe other stores learned from similar behaviour because the
local stores no longer have long lines lines are checkouts.

[Michael Trew]

What does that prove -- Other than, to the hourly workers -- that you're
a jerk?

[Hank Rogers]

How many bushels of trash did you dump in his parking lot officer dave?

[Hank Rogers]

He's likely been hanging out with officer dave.

[Gary]

Dave Smith wrote:
> I confess to having  left carts fill of groceries.  Actually, I did it a
> couple times in the same store and then started shopping elsewhere. It
> had more than a dozen checkout counters but usually only had two or
> three open and there were always huge line ups.  A couple times I had
> picked up ice cream last, so that it was less likely to melt before I
> got home. On these two occasions it didn't even make it to the checkout.
> I was stuck in line so long that the ice cream  had melted enough that
> it was dripping out of the container.  I moved the cart out of the line
> and walked out in disgust.  Not surprisingly, that store didn't lat very
> long. Maybe other stores learned from similar behaviour because the
> local stores no longer have long lines lines are checkouts.

My opinion:
Wrong for the stores not to open more checkout lanes when busy.
Equally wrong for you to just abandon your cart and walk out, especially
with cold/frozen food that will be ruined.

Finally - just shop early. Never many people, full parking lots or long
lines.

[Bruce]

Have you ever seen ice cream drip out of the container? I can't even
visualise it. I can put a container of ice cream out in the Australian
sun and it may become radioactive but it still won't drip out of the
container.

[Dave Smith]

You won't make me feel bad about it. The ice cream was already melting.
After the time I spent shopping and the ridiculous amount of time I
spend waiting in line I was not going to waste even more of my time to
return everything.

FWIW, it was the grocery division of a department store I had worked in
and they had the same problems with long checkout lines. There were a
lot of check out counters but most of them sat empty. I always figured
that as long as a cashier was checking out merchandise they were
harvesting money for the company. If they had twice as many cashiers
and they only had one or two people in their lines they were still
paying their way. Customers who have to wait a long time to check out
go elsewhere.

Stores rely on traffic patterns. Most of their staff are part time and
are scheduled to work the known peak times.

I most of our meats from two small family run groceries. At one of them
there are 5 checkouts and usually at least three of them are manned. If
there are more than a few people in line they bring someone up to open
another. The other has only three checkouts. A lot of the time there is
only one open, but as soon as it gets busy they open the second, and if
there is still a line they open the third. It's a small place and
sometimes there are a dozen people in line, but the line moved quickly.

>
> Finally - just shop early. Never many people, full parking lots or long
> lines.

Some people have to work.

[Bryan Simmons]

The workers get paid by the hour. They don't get to do
nothing when there is no re-shop. I work in retail. That's
how I know. The workers don't have to work harder. The
business has to either schedule more hours (maybe
that actually *helps* the workers), or have the store look
worse. You've probably never worked in retail, or you
would know all that. There are worse things one could
do to a business, but those are things that you could
possibly get in trouble for. Fuck you and your stupid
"karma," old man. Only ignorant fools actually believe
in karma.

--Bryan

[Bryan Simmons]

If the hourly workers aren't working re-shop, they're doing
other work. Maybe you stand around and do nothing at the
junk store, but most retail, especially corporate retail, isn't
like that.

--Bryan

[Ed P]

Karma happens often and us old farts laugh when it happens. I did work
retail in high school, then I got real jobs to support a family. That
includes a SAH mom.

[Ed P]

On 4/9/2023 9:53 AM, Bryan Simmons wrote:

>> What does that prove -- Other than, to the hourly workers -- that you're
>> a jerk?
>>
> If the hourly workers aren't working re-shop, they're doing
> other work. Maybe you stand around and do nothing at the
> junk store, but most retail, especially corporate retail, isn't
> like that.
>
> --Bryan

Sure the store would rather pay so re-shop instead of opening an extra
check-out lane. I bet you can offer management a lot of good ideas.

[Bryan Simmons]

On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 11:47:57 AM UTC-5, Ed P wrote:
> On 4/9/2023 9:53 AM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
> >> What does that prove -- Other than, to the hourly workers -- that you're
> >> a jerk?
> >>
> > If the hourly workers aren't working re-shop, they're doing
> > other work. Maybe you stand around and do nothing at the
> > junk store, but most retail, especially corporate retail, isn't
> > like that.
> >
> > --Bryan
> Sure the store would rather pay so re-shop instead of opening an extra
> check-out lane.
>

"Pay so re-shop"?? They don't open an addition lane out of
the goodness of their hearts. They do it to keep from making
the shopping experience unpleasant so as to remain
competitive. There is always merch to be stocked, whether
or not there is re-shop.

>
> I bet you can offer management a lot of good ideas.
>

My #1 priority is to make sure that--within reason--every
customer whom I deal with is glad that they chose to shop
there instead of somewhere else. My management has
never told me to spend less time helping customers. My
advice is to be more like the management that I work for.

--Bryan

[Michael Trew]

...Do nothing? I'm moving furniture, unlocking cases, and working the
cash register every day. Not to mention bending over backwards to be
pleasant to customers. The more difficult ones are always the ones who
buy little, yet want to keep you busy all day. Many of the same ask you
to hold dozens of things for them to purchase, and leave most of them at
the register for you to restock later when they don't purchase them.

[Bryan Simmons]

Would it make *your* day harder to do re-shop? If you weren't
re-shopping stray merchandise, would you be doing nothing, or
an equally laborious, or even worse task?

--Bryan

[jmcquown]

Andy Burns was way before your time but if he was pissed off at a store
for some reason (I don't recall specifics) he'd squish bags of bread on
the shelves. Andy had psychiatric issues.

Jill

[Bryan Simmons]

Andy destroyed food. It is good that Andy is dead.
>
> Jill

--Bryan

[Thomas]

I have never heard the term "re shop". Is it short for reverse shop?

[Bryan Simmons]

I think so. It's a Target word. They have their own little language.
They call what was known in retail as "chargebacks," "reverse
logistics." Other retailers often adopt their lingo.
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/645429/reason-some-businesses-refer-customers-guests
When I worked for Target and Venture (another similar regional
discount store) in the 1970s, '80s and early '90s, we called reshop
"stray merchandise."

--Bryan

[Thomas Joseph]

Bryan Simmons wrote:

> Some folks don't enjoy retribution. Intellectually, I know this,
but it's still a little hard to wrap my mind around. Managers should
make a real effort to not send customers away pissed off. It's not in
their company's best interest.

Retribution. I am not a vengeful person. I wonder if it's
because I am genuinely not vengeful or if I just don't have
the guts for it. Or maybe I tried it once and it didn't work.
I know it can backfire. Any full-time attitude can do that.
But to be honest I tend to find that moving on is the best
thing in life. Now, if vengeance could somehow teach the
deserving party a much needed lesson - well maybe in that
case I might be for it. As for the super market manager, since
I was not there I have to wonder - if retribution takes place
will he even know why? If not it's not worth it. They must
know why. This is why I would never kill anybody, because
dead people don't learn anything. From there I wonder if
maybe torture would be better. But then I start thinking about
never being able to set them free even if I want to - after they
have learned their lesson. So in the end I conclude it's just
not worth trying to get even all the time. Although in some
odd hard to define way I suppose even now that I am trying
to get even with you with this post.

[Thomas]

When I return goods there may be a restocking fee. That is the term I often hear.

[bruce bowser]

Don't we all?

[Michael Trew]

On 4/9/2023 17:49, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 4:29:59 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
>>
>> ...Do nothing? I'm moving furniture, unlocking cases, and working the

>> cash register every day...

>>
> Would it make *your* day harder to do re-shop? If you weren't
> re-shopping stray merchandise, would you be doing nothing, or
> an equally laborious, or even worse task?
>
> --Bryan

There have been plenty of days I had to stay 15+ minutes late (without
pay) to catch up from last-minute shoppers or chores that we forgot to
do... but I'll admit, that a second-hand store is different from a
corporate retail store, I'm sure.

[Gary]

Bruce wrote:
> Have you ever seen ice cream drip out of the container? I can't even
> visualise it. I can put a container of ice cream out in the Australian
> sun and it may become radioactive but it still won't drip out of the
> container.

These days, most or all ice cream comes in tub with lids. No dripping.

I remember the old days when they came in folded rectangular boxes. Any
of the 8 corners could leak if the ice cream melted.

[Dave Smith]

Bingo. This was about 40 years ago and almost all ice cream here came in
those folded rectangular boxes. Of course the ice cream next to the
cardboard melted before the stuff inside, and even faster in the corners
with the most exposure. When it melted it leaked out through the edges.

[Bruce]

You snipped the context. I also can't see how old the post is that
you're replying to. You're ruthless.

[cshenk]

Grin, Mom wold make sure it was first out the car and wrapped

[jmcquown]

Back in the 1960's Mom bought the folded cardboard cartons of ice cream
at the Commissary. At the checkout the carton was placed in a brown
paper ice cream bag that was lined with foil help keep the ice cream
cold on the way home. That doesn't address Dave's original complaint of
having the ice cream start to melt *before* he could ever get to the
checkout stand due to long lines and very few checkout lanes open.

Jill

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 6:22:52 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
>
> Dave Smith wrote:
> >

> > Bingo. This was about 40 years ago and almost all ice cream here came
> > in those folded rectangular boxes. Of course the ice cream next to
> > the cardboard melted before the stuff inside, and even faster in the
> > corners with the most exposure. When it melted it leaked out through
> > the edges.
> >

> Grin, Mom would make sure it was first out the car and wrapped
>
Read the full post not just about dripping ice cream and what your mom
would have done which what she would have done has no bearing on
what happened to Dave.

Grin. 😬

[Bruce]

Wut?

[jmcquown]

I love the way she writes "Grin". :) Dave was complaining about having
to wait in line so long that the ice cream started melting before he
made it to the checkout stand.

Jill

[Bruce]

On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 21:10:47 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Sisterhood in action, all 3 of them as a group.

Ghe ghe 😬

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

You've not noticed Carol will join in a conversation right smack dab in the
middle with of with no real knowledge of what's been discussed?? Then
she will jump with either an attack or 'tip' that really makes no sense.

Like her response to Dave about his melting ice cream. She tells him her
mother would have taken it out of the car immediately and wrapped it.
Gee, wasn't that a helpful statement that has nothing to do with his original
statement? 🙄

[Dave Smith]

I don't know what was so confusing about it. I did address the issue of
the number of unmanned checkout counters and the ridiculously long lines
and waits so long that the ice cream was melting enough that it was
leaking. Not such soft, but melted and leaking. That is way too long to
have to wait.

[Bruce]

Well, you can't even call that thread drift.

I did notice, however, that cshenk gets very upset if you suggest that
she might be wrong about something. Therefore I say: cshenk is always
right, except when I am!

[Bruce]

I hope RFC has been paying attention. We're not allowed to mention
melting ice cream and what to do about it, except in the context of
Dave Smith and his long checkout lines.

[jmcquown]

Yeah. She tends to come late to the discussion and then trim the
relevant parts. Dave's ice cream was starting to melt before he got to
the checkout to pay for it.

Jill

[Bruce]

On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 22:28:58 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

I propose that we all pull out our lighters and collectively mourn
Dave Smith' ice cream.

[Hank Rogers]

I'm sure he retaliated by dumping trash in the store's parking lot.

[Gary]

Lol. Now I know your *real* identity. ;)

[Bruce]

Who did I say I was again? I forgot who I said I was. Al Zheimers,
maybe.

[cshenk]

Oh I did and he's exagurating a lot obviously.

[Hank Rogers]

Is exagurating the same as whacking off? Grin

Grin

[Dave Smith]

On 2023-04-13 6:47 p.m., cshenk wrote:

> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>

>> Read the full post not just about dripping ice cream and what your mom
>> would have done which what she would have done has no bearing on
>> what happened to Dave.
>>
>> Grin. 😬
>
> Oh I did and he's exagurating a lot obviously.

There was no exaggeration. The ice cream was melting and dripping out of
the carton. Funny that who champion the resident psychotic and you would
call me a liar.

[Bruce]

Ok, Sisterhood, come to the aid of your Sister!

[jmcquown]

Now that she's retired (am I correct Carol mentioned retiring?) she has
more time to misinterpret, snip and be otherwise innacurate. ;)

Jill

[Bruce]

On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 20:08:11 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

And there she is, representing the Sisterhood! Jill's on the ball!
Joan's clearly nodded off.

[Hank Rogers]

I believe everything you say, officer dave.

Usually, I'm astonished. You've led an amazing life. You've done
everything, seen everything, been everywhere, and know everything.

If you had a healthy heart, and were not castrated, I might mistake
yoose for Popeye.

[Hank Rogers]

Fortunately, she has your highness to correct all her errors.

[Thomas Joseph]

Hank Rogers wrote:

jmcquown wrote:

> > Now that she's retired (am I correct Carol mentioned retiring?) she
> > has more time to misinterpret, snip and be otherwise innacurate. ;)

> Fortunately, she has your highness to correct all her errors.

Your Highness would make a great gossip columnist if she
had something to gossip about.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

I'm think this quite appropriate for Carol.

https://i.postimg.cc/s24dSWS6/Mark-Twain.jpg

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 7:08:20 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> >
> Now that she's retired (am I correct Carol mentioned retiring?) she has

> more time to misinterpret, snip and be otherwise inaccurate. ;)
>
> Jill
>
And succeeding quite well at it, too!

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 7:13:59 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> And there she is, representing the Sisterhood! Jill's on the ball!
> Joan's clearly nodded off.
>

I'm here! Were you worried about me?? How nice, but I was doing
some research online.

[Bruce]

Oh, is that what they call it :)

[Bruce]

And there is the missing Sisterhood Sister! The Tiresome Threesome are
complete once again!

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

I truly was researching online.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Takes a bow, grateful for the warm welcome and knowing I was missed.

Blows kisses at Bruce. 😚

[Bruce]

On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 22:19:54 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 12:09:18 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 21:52:28 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 7:08:20 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> Now that she's retired (am I correct Carol mentioned retiring?) she has
>> >> more time to misinterpret, snip and be otherwise inaccurate. ;)
>> >>
>> >> Jill
>> >>
>> >And succeeding quite well at it, too!
>> >
>> And there is the missing Sisterhood Sister! The Tiresome Threesome are
>> complete once again!
>>
>Takes a bow, grateful for the warm welcome and knowing I was missed.
>
>Blows kisses at Bruce. 😚

lol

[cshenk]

I was trying to give you the benefit of doubt.

They don't use 50's style cardboard containers now and the grocery
store has refridgeration. Softened? Possibly. Dripping out of the
carton? Nope.

[cshenk]

Actually, just less liable to have patience with people who don't get
thread drift.

[Dave Smith]

On 2023-04-15 8:47 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>

>> There was no exaggeration. The ice cream was melting and dripping out
>> of the carton. Funny that who champion the resident psychotic and you
>> would call me a liar.
>
> I was trying to give you the benefit of doubt.
>
> They don't use 50's style cardboard containers now and the grocery
> store has refridgeration. Softened? Possibly. Dripping out of the
> carton? Nope.

It was the late 70s and ice cream still came in those folded carboard
containers, not pails. Yes, there was a freezer. It nice and hard when
I picked it up and put it in my cart. There was a horrendously long and
slow, and I waited until the the ice cream was dripping out of the
seams. There were lots of check out counters but no staff.

[Hank Rogers]

Did you just let it go?

Or did you return to retaliate?

[GM]

When Officer Dave invades Gay Paree, do you think them Frogs will call him "The Ugly Canadian"...???

At least they'll laff at that hillbilly Quebec French that he'll speak...

--
GM

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 7:48:02 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
>
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > On 2023-04-13 6:47 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> >
> > > itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > >
> >
> > > > Read the full post not just about dripping ice cream and what
> > > > your mom would have done which what she would have done has no
> > > > bearing on what happened to Dave.
> > > >
> > > > Grin. 😬
> > >
> > > Oh I did and he's exagurating a lot obviously.
> >
> >
> > There was no exaggeration. The ice cream was melting and dripping out
> > of the carton. Funny that who champion the resident psychotic and you
> > would call me a liar.
> >
> I was trying to give you the benefit of doubt.
>

No, you jumped in the middle of the thread without reading the previous comments
and proceeded to tell him what mommy did.

>
> They don't use 50's style cardboard containers now and the grocery

> store has refrigeration. Softened? Possibly. Dripping out of the
> carton? Nope.
>
And yet you continue with this nonsense without reading the entire thread.
Give us another goofy grin.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

I don't think she understands the statement that stupidity is not a virtue.
Has she moved in with OhFeelMe and Ju-Ju???

[jmcquown]

Dave wrote "This was about *40 years ago* and almost all ice cream here
came in those folded rectangular boxes." How do you know how they
packaged ice cream 40-some years ago in Canada?

Jill

[Michael Trew]

They still sell those. I have a container of United Dairy "ice cream"
in my cellar freezer in a cardboard container. I doubt that it's real
"iced cream", but I've seen other brands sold in those waxed cardboard
containers -- typically the cheaper brands.

[Bryan Simmons]

On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 7:08:20 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:

And squat over her invalid husband's face
so he can lick her asshole.
>
> Jill

--Bryan