Dinner last night

[Gary]

First of all, I like a microwaved potato unlike many here, it
seems. I'll take that any day over an oven baked potato with
crispy skin. I do leave skins on though. Easy to cook with 2
passes. Once on one side, let it sit for a few minutes, then flip
it over and finish cooking. That's the one thing that I often
actually cook in the microwave vs just heating stuff up. Oh, and
some other green veggies too, those in a covered bowl.

Anyway, I made:
- medium microwaved potato, then cross cut with knife and
spoon, mixed in with butter and S&P. Kind of like a
very chunky mashed potato.
- topped it with a juicy fried egg
- microwaved broccoli on the side
- Gramma R's applesauce on the side
- one slice of buttered bread

Broke the juicy egg over the potatoes then ate.
Nice way to eat a potato, imo.
Good meal.

[dsi1]

I had a plate lunch with teri beef, fried shrimp, and some kind of eminently sustainable Asian white river fish. My son had a hamburger between 2 cakes of fried ramen.

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[jmcquown]

On 5/25/2019 7:36 AM, Gary wrote:
>
> First of all, I like a microwaved potato unlike many here, it
> seems. I'll take that any day over an oven baked potato with
> crispy skin. I do leave skins on though.

I have no problem with you liking to microwave potatoes. Just not
something I'd choose to do. I *love* the crispy buttered salted skins
of an oven baked potato. :)

> Easy to cook with 2
> passes. Once on one side, let it sit for a few minutes, then flip
> it over and finish cooking. That's the one thing that I often
> actually cook in the microwave vs just heating stuff up. Oh, and
> some other green veggies too, those in a covered bowl.
>
> Anyway, I made:
> - medium microwaved potato, then cross cut with knife and
> spoon, mixed in with butter and S&P. Kind of like a
> very chunky mashed potato.

Nothing unusual about that. That's how baked the potatoes I make fall
apart after you split one open and add a butter, S&P and proceed to
lightly mix it in into the tender flesh with a fork. Invariably the
potato will split in half. At that point I eat the still chunky not
mashed flesh along with the crispy buttered salty skin. I use a knife
and fork. :)

Jill

[Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl]

On Sat, 25 May 2019 07:36:43 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>
>First of all, I like a microwaved potato unlike many here, it

There is nothing wrong with it, I love a freshly nuked potato. It is
faster and it tastes the same, although the skin can get a bit dried
out sometimes
.

sounds nice. I had a salad. as I am trying to lose weight, but dont
knock it the salad was freakin awesome. It was a chicken salad with a
sweet hot mustard dressing that I made myself by combining a honey
mustard that I made and adding some sriracha to it

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[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 11:35:12 AM UTC-5, Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:
>
> On Sat, 25 May 2019 07:36:43 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >First of all, I like a microwaved potato unlike many here, it
>
> There is nothing wrong with it, I love a freshly nuked potato. It is
> faster and it tastes the same, although the skin can get a bit dried
> out sometimes
>

A few years ago I finally mastered microwaved 'baked potatoes.' After piercing
the skin a few times I put it in an oval dish on its' 'back' and microwave
for 3 minutes. Then I turn it on it's left side and repeat for 3 minutes.
Then I roll it over on its' tummy for another 3 minutes and finally on its'
right side for the last 3 minutes. Of course, the times I've stated all de-
pend on how large that tater is. If it's small, the cooking time is greatly
reduced and the turning at regular intervals stops that hard, overcooked
portion that can happen.

[jmcquown]

I've actually made microwaved "baked potatoes" although I can't say I've
mastered them. I rubbed them with butter and sprinkled the skins with
salt first. They did actually manage to crisp in the MW after cooking
in spurts and turning, as described.

Jill

[Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl]

On Sat, 25 May 2019 13:13:09 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

I guess that may need to be my next airfryer project. Mastering a
baked potato in an airfryer. The french fries only took me like a
month and countless potatoes.. The poor little guys did not stand a
chance....

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 12:46:21 PM UTC-5, Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:
>
> I guess that may need to be my next airfryer project. Mastering a
> baked potato in an airfryer. The french fries only took me like a
> month and countless potatoes.. The poor little guys did not stand a
> chance....
>

There are several YouTube videos showing how to do a baked potato in an air
fryer.

[jmcquown]

An Air Fryer is not a kitchen gadget I'd bother buying.

On the rare occasions I've used the microwave to cook "baked" potatoes I
did rub them with butter and sprinkle them with salt and turn them. The
skins did get a bit crispy. I'd still rather use the oven.

Gary apparently doesn't like crisp skins so the microwave is the perfect
cooking venue for his potatoes.

Jill

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 1:15:52 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 5/25/2019 1:56 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> >
> > There are several YouTube videos showing how to do a baked potato in an air
> > fryer.
> >
> An Air Fryer is not a kitchen gadget I'd bother buying.
>

That Ninja Foodi I bought back in the winter is also an air fryer along with
being a pressure cooker, slow cooker, and dehydrator among other things. But
I confess to not having done any baked potatoes in it.

I did toy with the idea for a while of buying just an air fryer but was pretty
much assured the convection oven I have would do the same thing as an air
fryer.

[Jinx the Minx]

I have one, and as much as some people love them, I say you’re not missing
out. It can’t do anything I can’t do just fine with my regular stove and
oven.

[Ophelia]

"jmcquown" wrote in message news:nDfGE.110505$j65....@fx44.iad...

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I have an Air fryer and an Air fryer oven. I love them and they cook
potatoes beautifully <g>

[Dave Smith]

On 2019-05-25 12:17 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/25/2019 7:36 AM, Gary wrote:
>>
>> First of all, I like a microwaved potato unlike many here, it
>> seems. I'll take that any day over an oven baked potato with
>> crispy skin. I do leave skins on though.
>
> I have no problem with you liking to microwave potatoes.  Just not
> something I'd choose to do.  I *love* the crispy buttered salted skins
> of an oven baked potato. :)

When microwaves first came out out was a novelty to be able to "bake" a
potato in 10 minutes. I only did it a few times because they just
weren't baked potatoes. I have since par cooked potatoes to get the
inside temperature up when I am baking something that takes less time
that it takes to fully bake a spud.

[Dave Smith]

On 2019-05-25 2:15 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/25/2019 1:56 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

>> There are several YouTube videos showing how to do a baked potato in
>> an air
>> fryer.
>>
> An Air Fryer is not a kitchen gadget I'd bother buying.

We got one a couple months ago and use it frequently. We make air fryer
French fries at least one a week. I have cooked frozen samosas and
roasted potatoes.

[Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl]

There are also several that show french fries, and they all are wrong
and they all lie.

[Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl]

Yeah but the differences are one uses an average of 2400 watts and the
other uses 1500 oven/airfryer.
And as far as the stove you will be cutting the use of oil way way
down.

[Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl]

On Sat, 25 May 2019 21:32:33 +0100, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

You tell 'em girlfriend

[Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl]

Dave, do you precook your fries in bulk then freeze them?

[Cindy Hamilton]

My oven uses zero watts. It does burn some BTUs, though.

Cindy Hamilton

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Sunday, May 26, 2019 at 8:29:31 AM UTC-5, Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:
>
> There are also several that show french fries, and they all are wrong
> and they all lie.
>

They are doing French fries they way THEY like them, not how you like them.
There is no right or wrong way to do them.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Snigger, mine too!

[Cindy Hamilton]

Actually, I was wrong. It uses a negligible amount of electricity for
the igniters and controller.

Cindy Hamilton

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Sunday, May 26, 2019 at 9:22:00 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Actually, I was wrong. It uses a negligible amount of electricity for
> the igniters and controller.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Yeah, those igniters for the stovetop burners, which probably don't even spike
the electric meter, and the solenoid for the oven glow bar. I'm assuming your
oven uses a glow bar to ignite the gas to heat it.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Yes, it does.

The embedded computer also uses a trickle of power.

Cindy Hamilton

[Jinx the Minx]

Assuming one is interested in cooking a lot of fried foods, which I am not.
I cook with so little oil it doesn’t count, and not interested in watt
usage.

[penm...@aol.com]

A gas oven's thermostat uses wattage, especially the newer ones with a
glow bar... that's why you can't use the oven during a power outage.
One of the best ways to bake potatoes with a gas stove is to use a top
burner potato baker, they are very efficient. I would never light an
oven just to bake a couple of spuds, I wait until I have a roast in
the oven. These use very little gas:
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[Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl]

No they are just following the recipes that come with the airfryer.
Everyone of those recipes suck.

[Ophelia]

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LOL it's all a matter of preference:)) No on is right or wrong in
choices:)))

[Cindy Hamilton]

It was not I who was worried about the cost. I will heat the oven
to bake a couple of spuds. The waste heat offsets the work my
furnace has to do.

Cindy Hamilton

[penm...@aol.com]

On Sun, 26 May 2019 10:21:44 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

Thats only during the heating season and still it's much more
efficient to light an oven when roasting more than just potatoes. I
don't remember ever lighting my oven just to bake potatoes. In fact
I don't remember ever baking potatoes for any meal other than with a
roast or when baking bread. I don't need to be frugal but that's my
nature, I detest wastefulness. If I wanted potatoes as a side but
wasn't using the oven I'd very likely boil potatoes for salad... and
I'm definitely not going to light the oven during A/C season. During
summer I do heavy cooking outdoors, and then we eat a lot of uncooked
meals like salads or eat the meals I cooked during winter and have
frozen. I won't light the grill for two burgers, two pork chops, even
for steak, it's easier to pan fry. much less clean-up... tonight will
be the other half of the London broil from yesterday... we like left
over London broil, I slice it paper thin, makes great sandwiches. We
don't eat outdoors during summer, much too hot and buggy, a lot more
comfortable dining in A/C. I get plenty of outdoor fresh air time, I
spent three hours this morning sawing up two fallen trees and hauling
them to dump in the woods, makes good critter lodgings. Then I did an
hour's mowing what I could, still too wet from all the heavy rains.
I don't plan menus around requests, I plan menus around what's easier
for me. Tonight's dessert will be a mix of strawberries, blueberries,
and blackberries... my wife likes hers with Redi-Whip, I like mine
with a small scoop of vanilla ice cream. We always have vanilla ice
cream. our older cats have to have their pill so it's a lot easier
crushed with a small spoon of 'nilla ice cream

[Cindy Hamilton]

I find I'm not interested in heavy food like baked potatoes during
the summer.

> and still it's much more
> efficient to light an oven when roasting more than just potatoes. I
> don't remember ever lighting my oven just to bake potatoes. In fact
> I don't remember ever baking potatoes for any meal other than with a
> roast or when baking bread. I don't need to be frugal but that's my
> nature, I detest wastefulness. If I wanted potatoes as a side but
> wasn't using the oven I'd very likely boil potatoes for salad... and
> I'm definitely not going to light the oven during A/C season. During
> summer I do heavy cooking outdoors, and then we eat a lot of uncooked
> meals like salads or eat the meals I cooked during winter and have
> frozen. I won't light the grill for two burgers, two pork chops, even
> for steak, it's easier to pan fry. much less clean-up...

Pan frying yields a different result.

I have a gas grill. Why not light it for two burgers rather than
using the stove?

Cindy Hamilton

[penm...@aol.com]

On Sun, 26 May 2019 13:10:08 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

I'd rather cook with A/C and clean one pan than spend time grilling in
the hot sun with biting bugs than clean a grill grate. Grilling is
sort of okay when there's a group for socialing but not for just the
two of us. Actually I no longer enjoy cooking for a crowd of peasants
who don't return the favor. We no longer treat friends and family to
dinner, especially since there's no reciprocity. Now we only treat a
handful who live locally, amd they treat us. We tired of hearing how
they had to travel for two hours to get here and yet they never
invited us. These days we only bother with locals. we don't waste our
energies with one way friends/relatives who are really just
aquaintences, Since our parents passed we have altered our
allegences, We got along famously with our mother/father inlaws but
since they are gone the other inlaws can rot.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

To YOU they suck.

[dsi1]

I'm not real impressed with my air fryer. I will have to try cooking some potatoes before I ditch the toy.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 5/26/2019 8:03 PM, penm...@aol.com wrote:

>
> I'd rather cook with A/C and clean one pan than spend time grilling in
> the hot sun with biting bugs than clean a grill grate. Grilling is
> sort of okay when there's a group for socialing but not for just the
> two of us.

You have a good point. In my case, I grill just steps outside the door
and it is shaded. I smoked some ribs yesterday, will do a rotisserie
chicken tomorrow. The lanai is screened so no bugs either.

Many other times though, it is just the same to use the range in the
comfort of AC. In nice weather we like to eat outside too, but the past
week has been hot so meals are inside. We won't be spending much time
out now until probably September. I like creature comfort.

[Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl]

On Sun, 26 May 2019 17:17:36 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Sunday, May 26, 2019 at 10:43:47 AM UTC-5, Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 May 2019 07:15:12 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> >They are doing French fries they way THEY like them, not how you like them.
>> >There is no right or wrong way to do them.
>>
>> No they are just following the recipes that come with the airfryer.
>> Everyone of those recipes suck.
>>
>To YOU they suck.

Well of course, I put in time and research.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Sunday, May 26, 2019 at 7:34:08 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
> I'm not real impressed with my air fryer. I will have to try cooking some potatoes before I ditch the toy.
>

Have you done chicken such as chicken wings in yours? 'Fried' chicken cooked
in them is really good, too. Use whatever your favorite seasoned flour mixture
is. Don't forget to spray with oil.

[Cindy Hamilton]

What's to clean? Turn the grill up to preheat after the food comes
off. In 10 minutes come out and brush the carbon off the grate.

Cindy Hamilton

[dsi1]

I'll have to try chicken wings. I made some fries today - that came out okay. OTOH, I'm not supposed to eat potatoes.

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[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

I guess he's never seen or used one of those permanently mounted charcoal
grills in a state or national park; none of those are scrubbed clean. Add
your charcoal, let it get blazing hot, then scrape with a brush if you brought
one or a wad of aluminum foil. If you don't have either just let the charcoal
burn off the residue from the previous grilling.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, May 27, 2019 at 5:58:38 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
> I'll have to try chicken wings. I made some fries today - that came out okay. OTOH, I'm not supposed to eat potatoes.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/XN1-ycKrSXiqHi2o0Bd_mA.udX5IMz-cMuYZiAwCIP5lV
>

Those potatoes look super good.

There are several different YouTube videos of different air fryer chicken/
chicken wings recipes. One I saw, but have not tried, was to cook the wings
in the air fryer and immediately when done to roll the wings in a bowl of
combined butter and LOTS of very finely diced garlic.

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
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I use mine for things like chicken and chops. I also use it a lot for
potatoes. Not something I would often use, but I'd had a can of potatoes in
the store which had been there forever. I though I would give me a go and
they came out lovely. I was really surprised.

It would be a shame to bin it. Do try it out with more things before
you do that. Look online for recipes to use. I like it too because it is
healthier than deep frying. A spray of oil and it is all that is needed.

[penm...@aol.com]

On Sun, 26 May 2019 21:35:49 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>On 5/26/2019 8:03 PM, penm...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> I'd rather cook with A/C and clean one pan than spend time grilling in
>> the hot sun with biting bugs than clean a grill grate. Grilling is
>> sort of okay when there's a group for socialing but not for just the
>> two of us.
>
>You have a good point. In my case, I grill just steps outside the door
>and it is shaded. I smoked some ribs yesterday, will do a rotisserie
>chicken tomorrow. The lanai is screened so no bugs either.

The sliding door to our deck goes into the dining/kitchen area. so
only a few steps to bring food out, and the Weber is on the ground a
few feet from the deck so that's close to bring food to the deck or
inside.... we prefer to eat inside with A/C and not getting rained
out... it rained constantly for two months now.

Our deck is on the south side so gets sun all day. We tried one of
those large umbrellas that goes through a hole in the table and sits
in a weighted stand but a wind came up that took the umbrella, the
table, and everything on it. That made us forget about an awning we
had been contemplating.

When we moved here there was a huge crimson king maple shading the
deck but it was a bug magnet and was too close to the house that its
branches would touch the roof and the roof never dried, not good so we
had that gorgeous tree removed... it was too big to move elsewhere,
had that spruce tree removed too. We had seven trees removed, they
planted one in front of each window so all that could be seen was a
wall of green. Farm people consider trees their A/C.
https://postimg.cc/PNcFJdCv

>Many other times though, it is just the same to use the range in the
>comfort of AC. In nice weather we like to eat outside too, but the past
>week has been hot so meals are inside. We won't be spending much time
>out now until probably September. I like creature comfort.

The last time I liked to eat outdoors was when I was a kid and it was
a picnic.

[Jack Granade]

On 5/27/2019 10:12 AM, penm...@aol.com Sheldon wrote:
> The last time I liked to eat outdoors was when I was a kid and it was
> a picnic.
>

Yeah, but you're an old house hermit shut-in asshole.