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GM
Jan 5, 2021, 5:25:16 PM1/5/21
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Thugs = 0
Justice = +100
Kudos to Officer Rusten Sheskey :-D
Excellent decision IMNSHO:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/05/us/jacob-blake-kenosha-rusten-sheskey.html
Jacob Blake Shooting: No Charges Against Officer in Kenosha, Wisconsin
The shooting last August sparked protests and rioting, making Kenosha a flash point in a summer of unrest that began with the killing of George Floyd
"KENOSHA, Wis. — A prosecutor in Kenosha, Wis., has declined to bring charges against Rusten Sheskey, the police officer who shot Jacob Blake outside an apartment building in August, an episode that sparked protests and rioting and made the city an instant flash point in a summer of unrest that began with the killing of George Floyd.
The decision was announced on Tuesday by Michael Graveley, the Kenosha County district attorney, who said that investigators had reviewed 40 hours of video and hundreds of pages of police reports.
A lawyer for Mr. Blake’s family expressed “immense disappointment” in the announcement. “This decision failed not only Jacob and his family but the community that protested and demanded justice,” the lawyer, Ben Crump, wrote on Twitter.
Even before revealing his determination, Mr. Graveley pleaded with his community — and the country — to keep the peace.
“Rather than burning things down, can moments of tragedy like this be an opportunity to build things?” he asked.
The case involved a white officer shooting a Black man, circumstances that the prosecutor said made the decision especially difficult for him.
“I feel in many ways completely inadequate for this moment,” said Mr. Graveley, who is white. “I have never in my life had a moment where I’ve had to contend with explicit or implicit bias based on my race. I have never had a moment in my life where I’ve had to fear for my safety either with police officers or people in authority.”
He added that he also has not had experiences facing police officers, “knowing I could face armed persons who might try to end my life.”
Advocates for Mr. Blake, who is 29, have been awaiting the decision for months and holding regular demonstrations in Kenosha, calling upon Mr. Graveley to file charges against the officer.
The community simmered with tension before the announcement, as residents and officials anxiously sought to prevent the unrest that unfolded after the shooting last summer.
Many businesses in Kenosha were boarded up Tuesday in anticipation of the charging decision, and some streets were closed. National Guard members stood near the Kenosha County Courthouse, which was surrounded by an iron fence. At a Subway sandwich shop two blocks from the courthouse, fresh plywood was installed Tuesday, as it had been during the summer unrest. “If the decision goes in the cop’s favor, we’re thinking it’s going to turn how it was before,” an employee, Tyler Blazek, said.
The City Council unanimously passed an emergency declaration Monday that would allow the mayor to implement a curfew once the district attorney made his charging decision public.
The sheriff for Kenosha County also declared a state of emergency that he said would allow him to change the schedules of his deputies.
Officer Sheskey, who has been employed by the Kenosha Police Department for seven years, was placed on administrative leave after the shooting. His lawyer, Brendan P. Matthews, said in December that he remained on leave.
The shooting, on Aug. 23, unfolded after three officers arrived at an apartment complex in Kenosha in response to a domestic complaint.
ABOUT THE CASE: What we know about the police shooting of Jacob Blake.
As the officers attempted to take Mr. Blake into custody, he walked along the passenger side of a four-door S.U.V., away from the officers, as three of his children waited in the back seat of the vehicle. The officers used a Taser in an effort to subdue Mr. Blake, which was ineffective; Officer Sheskey then grabbed Mr. Blake’s shirt and fired his gun several times into Mr. Blake’s back.
Two other officers were pointing their guns at Mr. Blake during the incident.
According to state officials, Mr. Blake admitted that he was in possession of a knife; a knife was later recovered from the floorboard of Mr. Blake’s car near the driver’s seat. There were no other weapons in the vehicle.
The shooting was captured on a cellphone video, which was shared widely, fueling protests and destruction in Kenosha.
The Justice Department opened a civil rights investigation into the case.
Gov. Tony Evers, a Democrat, condemned the shooting in its immediate aftermath. “While we do not have all of the details yet, what we know for certain is that he is not the first Black man or person to have been shot or injured or mercilessly killed at the hands of individuals in law enforcement in our state or our country,” he said on Twitter.
For several days in August, protests and destruction erupted on the streets of Kenosha, as rioters burned buildings, cars and garbage trucks, smashed streetlamps and spray-painted graffiti on schools and businesses. Hundreds of National Guardsmen were summoned to Kenosha in an attempt to restore order, using tear gas and rubber bullets to subdue protesters.
Two days after the shooting of Mr. Blake, Kyle Rittenhouse, who was then 17, shot and killed two men on a downtown street in what his lawyer has described as an act of self-defense. He was charged with six criminal counts, including first-degree intentional homicide.
Mr. Rittenhouse, now 18, pleaded not guilty to the charges during a brief arraignment that was done via videoconference on Tuesday. His case is scheduled to proceed in March.
Outside the courthouse on Tuesday afternoon, two protesters said they were there to support Mr. Rittenhouse.
“I’m here to support Kyle. Self -defense is not a crime,” said Tim Conrad, 34, who drove 90 minutes from Joliet, Ill., to be in Kenosha.
His friend, Emily Cahill, 32, from Plainfield, Ill., carried a poster that read “IGY6 Kyle” meaning “I got your back, Kyle,” she said.
John Antaramian, the mayor of Kenosha, and Daniel Miskinis, the city’s police chief, wrote an op-ed in the Kenosha News in December vowing that they would not allow destruction of businesses to be repeated after Mr. Graveley’s announcement.
“Whether you agree or disagree, we ask that you express your opinions peacefully and lawfully,” they wrote. “We will not — we cannot — tolerate the kind of violence we saw on our streets earlier this year and we will take definitive steps to protect our residents and businesses.”
The state Department of Justice and its Division of Criminal Investigation led the investigation into the shooting of Mr. Blake. On Sept. 21, Attorney General Josh Kaul of Wisconsin announced that the state would be bringing in an outside consultant, Noble Wray, a former police chief, to conduct an independent review of the case.
Mr. Blake was partially paralyzed after the shooting, which severed his spinal cord; his family said he is unlikely to ever walk again.
At the time of the shooting, Mr. Blake was facing charges stemming from a July incident. On Nov. 6, prosecutors in Kenosha County Circuit Court dropped one count of third-degree sexual assault and agreed to drop one count of criminal trespass if Mr. Blake pleaded guilty to two counts of disorderly conduct, according to court records and Mr. Blake’s lawyer, Patrick Cafferty.
Mr. Blake, who made a court appearance via Zoom from a rehabilitation center in Illinois where he was receiving treatment for his spinal cord injuries, pleaded guilty to the two disorderly conduct charges and was sentenced to two years of probation.
The Walworth County district attorney, Zeke Wiedenfeld, who had prosecuted the case, said the sexual assault charge had been dropped in part because the woman who had accused Mr. Blake declined to cooperate with the prosecutors. Mr. Blake had maintained that he did not commit sexual assault..."
Robert Chiarito reported from Kenosha, and Julie Bosman from Chicago. John Eligon contributed reporting from Kansas City, Mo.
Justice = +100
Kudos to Officer Rusten Sheskey :-D
Excellent decision IMNSHO:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/05/us/jacob-blake-kenosha-rusten-sheskey.html
Jacob Blake Shooting: No Charges Against Officer in Kenosha, Wisconsin
The shooting last August sparked protests and rioting, making Kenosha a flash point in a summer of unrest that began with the killing of George Floyd
"KENOSHA, Wis. — A prosecutor in Kenosha, Wis., has declined to bring charges against Rusten Sheskey, the police officer who shot Jacob Blake outside an apartment building in August, an episode that sparked protests and rioting and made the city an instant flash point in a summer of unrest that began with the killing of George Floyd.
The decision was announced on Tuesday by Michael Graveley, the Kenosha County district attorney, who said that investigators had reviewed 40 hours of video and hundreds of pages of police reports.
A lawyer for Mr. Blake’s family expressed “immense disappointment” in the announcement. “This decision failed not only Jacob and his family but the community that protested and demanded justice,” the lawyer, Ben Crump, wrote on Twitter.
Even before revealing his determination, Mr. Graveley pleaded with his community — and the country — to keep the peace.
“Rather than burning things down, can moments of tragedy like this be an opportunity to build things?” he asked.
The case involved a white officer shooting a Black man, circumstances that the prosecutor said made the decision especially difficult for him.
“I feel in many ways completely inadequate for this moment,” said Mr. Graveley, who is white. “I have never in my life had a moment where I’ve had to contend with explicit or implicit bias based on my race. I have never had a moment in my life where I’ve had to fear for my safety either with police officers or people in authority.”
He added that he also has not had experiences facing police officers, “knowing I could face armed persons who might try to end my life.”
Advocates for Mr. Blake, who is 29, have been awaiting the decision for months and holding regular demonstrations in Kenosha, calling upon Mr. Graveley to file charges against the officer.
The community simmered with tension before the announcement, as residents and officials anxiously sought to prevent the unrest that unfolded after the shooting last summer.
Many businesses in Kenosha were boarded up Tuesday in anticipation of the charging decision, and some streets were closed. National Guard members stood near the Kenosha County Courthouse, which was surrounded by an iron fence. At a Subway sandwich shop two blocks from the courthouse, fresh plywood was installed Tuesday, as it had been during the summer unrest. “If the decision goes in the cop’s favor, we’re thinking it’s going to turn how it was before,” an employee, Tyler Blazek, said.
The City Council unanimously passed an emergency declaration Monday that would allow the mayor to implement a curfew once the district attorney made his charging decision public.
The sheriff for Kenosha County also declared a state of emergency that he said would allow him to change the schedules of his deputies.
Officer Sheskey, who has been employed by the Kenosha Police Department for seven years, was placed on administrative leave after the shooting. His lawyer, Brendan P. Matthews, said in December that he remained on leave.
The shooting, on Aug. 23, unfolded after three officers arrived at an apartment complex in Kenosha in response to a domestic complaint.
ABOUT THE CASE: What we know about the police shooting of Jacob Blake.
As the officers attempted to take Mr. Blake into custody, he walked along the passenger side of a four-door S.U.V., away from the officers, as three of his children waited in the back seat of the vehicle. The officers used a Taser in an effort to subdue Mr. Blake, which was ineffective; Officer Sheskey then grabbed Mr. Blake’s shirt and fired his gun several times into Mr. Blake’s back.
Two other officers were pointing their guns at Mr. Blake during the incident.
According to state officials, Mr. Blake admitted that he was in possession of a knife; a knife was later recovered from the floorboard of Mr. Blake’s car near the driver’s seat. There were no other weapons in the vehicle.
The shooting was captured on a cellphone video, which was shared widely, fueling protests and destruction in Kenosha.
The Justice Department opened a civil rights investigation into the case.
Gov. Tony Evers, a Democrat, condemned the shooting in its immediate aftermath. “While we do not have all of the details yet, what we know for certain is that he is not the first Black man or person to have been shot or injured or mercilessly killed at the hands of individuals in law enforcement in our state or our country,” he said on Twitter.
For several days in August, protests and destruction erupted on the streets of Kenosha, as rioters burned buildings, cars and garbage trucks, smashed streetlamps and spray-painted graffiti on schools and businesses. Hundreds of National Guardsmen were summoned to Kenosha in an attempt to restore order, using tear gas and rubber bullets to subdue protesters.
Two days after the shooting of Mr. Blake, Kyle Rittenhouse, who was then 17, shot and killed two men on a downtown street in what his lawyer has described as an act of self-defense. He was charged with six criminal counts, including first-degree intentional homicide.
Mr. Rittenhouse, now 18, pleaded not guilty to the charges during a brief arraignment that was done via videoconference on Tuesday. His case is scheduled to proceed in March.
Outside the courthouse on Tuesday afternoon, two protesters said they were there to support Mr. Rittenhouse.
“I’m here to support Kyle. Self -defense is not a crime,” said Tim Conrad, 34, who drove 90 minutes from Joliet, Ill., to be in Kenosha.
His friend, Emily Cahill, 32, from Plainfield, Ill., carried a poster that read “IGY6 Kyle” meaning “I got your back, Kyle,” she said.
John Antaramian, the mayor of Kenosha, and Daniel Miskinis, the city’s police chief, wrote an op-ed in the Kenosha News in December vowing that they would not allow destruction of businesses to be repeated after Mr. Graveley’s announcement.
“Whether you agree or disagree, we ask that you express your opinions peacefully and lawfully,” they wrote. “We will not — we cannot — tolerate the kind of violence we saw on our streets earlier this year and we will take definitive steps to protect our residents and businesses.”
The state Department of Justice and its Division of Criminal Investigation led the investigation into the shooting of Mr. Blake. On Sept. 21, Attorney General Josh Kaul of Wisconsin announced that the state would be bringing in an outside consultant, Noble Wray, a former police chief, to conduct an independent review of the case.
Mr. Blake was partially paralyzed after the shooting, which severed his spinal cord; his family said he is unlikely to ever walk again.
At the time of the shooting, Mr. Blake was facing charges stemming from a July incident. On Nov. 6, prosecutors in Kenosha County Circuit Court dropped one count of third-degree sexual assault and agreed to drop one count of criminal trespass if Mr. Blake pleaded guilty to two counts of disorderly conduct, according to court records and Mr. Blake’s lawyer, Patrick Cafferty.
Mr. Blake, who made a court appearance via Zoom from a rehabilitation center in Illinois where he was receiving treatment for his spinal cord injuries, pleaded guilty to the two disorderly conduct charges and was sentenced to two years of probation.
The Walworth County district attorney, Zeke Wiedenfeld, who had prosecuted the case, said the sexual assault charge had been dropped in part because the woman who had accused Mr. Blake declined to cooperate with the prosecutors. Mr. Blake had maintained that he did not commit sexual assault..."
Robert Chiarito reported from Kenosha, and Julie Bosman from Chicago. John Eligon contributed reporting from Kansas City, Mo.
Graham
Jan 5, 2021, 5:47:33 PM1/5/21
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On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 14:25:10 -0800 (PST), GM wrote:
> Thugs = 0
>
> Justice = ?
> Thugs = 0
>
>
So the brave cops shot him in the back, multiple times!
GM
Jan 5, 2021, 6:22:54 PM1/5/21
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The thug was manic, brandishing a deadly weapon, and besides which a dire threat to the kids in the back seat. of the vehicle. He's lucky he did not receive even more shots...
He was allowed every reasonable chance to de - escalate, however he chose *not* to follow lawful police orders...all he had to do was to put down the knife...
At least the puke is paralyzed, so he won't be rampaging around engaging in such squalid behaviours ("probably") again...however us taxpayers will have to foot the HUGE bill for this parasite's existence for the remainder of his useless life...
The "collateral" damage this louse did to the good people of the city of Kenosha is estimated to have cost up to $50 million. Scores of lives have been ruined, hard - working peoples' - many of them minorities - dreams have been dashed - ____all because he refused lawful orders to put down a knife____ :
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/damage-rioting-kenosha-50-million
Damage blamed on rioting in Kenosha tops $50 million, county asks for federal help to rebuild
'To the people who burned down our city, we won’t allow it ever again'
[September 10, 2020]
"The unrest that gripped Kenosha, Wis., for several days following the police shooting of a Black man last month resulted in $50 million in damage to buildings and businesses, officials said.
To help put in perspective of just how big of a hit that is for the city with a population of nearly 100,000 residents, that makes up more than half of Kenosha's municiple budget of $86.3 million.
The damage was spread across as many as 100 businesses, including 40 that are “out-of-business for good," Kenosha County Supervisor Terry Rose said during a Tuesday county board meeting, according to the Kenosha News..."
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Graham
Jan 5, 2021, 8:32:08 PM1/5/21
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On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 15:22:49 -0800 (PST), GM wrote:
> Graham wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 14:25:10 -0800 (PST), GM wrote:
>>
>>> Thugs = 0
>>>
>>> Justice = ?
>>>
>> So the brave cops shot him in the back, multiple times!
>
>
> That is *cop* not, "cops", Graham...please *do* pay attention - did you even bother to *read* the New York Times article that I so kindly provided...???
>
So, a brave cop shot him in the back seven times!
> Graham wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 14:25:10 -0800 (PST), GM wrote:
>>
>>> Thugs = 0
>>>
>>> Justice = ?
>>>
>> So the brave cops shot him in the back, multiple times!
>
>
> That is *cop* not, "cops", Graham...please *do* pay attention - did you even bother to *read* the New York Times article that I so kindly provided...???
>
Master Bruce
Jan 5, 2021, 9:48:53 PM1/5/21
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weapon. The guy was ignoring police orders. He took the risk that he'd
be shot. His own fault. There's no comparison to the Floyd case.
GM
Jan 6, 2021, 1:43:54 AM1/6/21
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Graham wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 15:22:49 -0800 (PST), GM wrote:
>
> > Graham wrote:
> >> On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 14:25:10 -0800 (PST), GM wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thugs = 0
> >>>
> >>> Justice = ?
> >>>
> >> So the brave cops shot him in the back, multiple times!
> >
> >
> > That is *cop* not, "cops", Graham...please *do* pay attention - did you even bother to *read* the New York Times article that I so kindly provided...???
> >
> So, a brave cop shot him in the back seven times!
We thank you for acknowledging that the officer was brave in this ghastly situation, Graham...
> On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 15:22:49 -0800 (PST), GM wrote:
>
> > Graham wrote:
> >> On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 14:25:10 -0800 (PST), GM wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thugs = 0
> >>>
> >>> Justice = ?
> >>>
> >> So the brave cops shot him in the back, multiple times!
> >
> >
> > That is *cop* not, "cops", Graham...please *do* pay attention - did you even bother to *read* the New York Times article that I so kindly provided...???
> >
> So, a brave cop shot him in the back seven times!
:-)
This was a good call:
1. Exhibited criminal behavior? Check.
2. Armed with a deadly weapon? Check.
3. Violent resistance to lawful arrest? Check.
4. Positioning himself to be a potential threat to three children? Check.
Not only was Blake holding a deadly weapon while resisting lawful arrest for his outstanding warrant, he was just about to upgrade to another deadly weapon by fleeing the scene in his car, complete with child hostages. Imagine that the officer allowed him to leave and he harmed a child to get at his ex. What would the peanut gallery be screaming then...???
--
Best
Greg
Gary
Jan 6, 2021, 7:51:58 AM1/6/21
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Master Bruce wrote:
you argued with Ed about it. You thought it was excessive force.
But yes, I just saw the video again last night. The cop had his gun out
but the perp ignored his command to stop. They walked all the around the
car to the driver's door. Then the guy opened the door and lunged down
to his front seat. That's when the cop fired. For all he knew that guy
was reaching for a gun.
I would have shot then too as would any trained cop. It's not a
black/white thing either. That was an extreme dangerous situation for a cop.
I was very surprised that the guy survived to complain about it. That
piece of dirt should have died.
> Graham wrote:
>> So, a brave cop shot him in the back seven times!
>
> I watched it. The cop clearly feared that the Blake guy was grabbing a
> weapon. The guy was ignoring police orders. He took the risk that he'd
> be shot. His own fault. There's no comparison to the Floyd case.
I'm surprised to hear you say that. I remember when it first happened
>> So, a brave cop shot him in the back seven times!
>
> I watched it. The cop clearly feared that the Blake guy was grabbing a
> weapon. The guy was ignoring police orders. He took the risk that he'd
> be shot. His own fault. There's no comparison to the Floyd case.
you argued with Ed about it. You thought it was excessive force.
But yes, I just saw the video again last night. The cop had his gun out
but the perp ignored his command to stop. They walked all the around the
car to the driver's door. Then the guy opened the door and lunged down
to his front seat. That's when the cop fired. For all he knew that guy
was reaching for a gun.
I would have shot then too as would any trained cop. It's not a
black/white thing either. That was an extreme dangerous situation for a cop.
I was very surprised that the guy survived to complain about it. That
piece of dirt should have died.
Dave Smith
Jan 6, 2021, 9:37:32 AM1/6/21
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ignore lawful commands from the police and end up being the authors of
their own misfortune. It troubles me to see the black community making
heroes of career criminals.
Ed Pawlowski
Jan 6, 2021, 9:50:39 AM1/6/21
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have been easily avoided. Just stop, drop your weapon. They are not
rational people though, or they would never be in a situation that
requires police intervention to start with.
itsjoan...@webtv.net
Jan 6, 2021, 10:06:40 AM1/6/21
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On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 8:50:39 AM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> The police certainly make mistakes but 98% of these incidences could
> have been easily avoided. Just stop, drop your weapon. They are not
> rational people though, or they would never be in a situation that
> requires police intervention to start with.
>
https://i.postimg.cc/PrsFffMr/Stop.jpg
>
> The police certainly make mistakes but 98% of these incidences could
> have been easily avoided. Just stop, drop your weapon. They are not
> rational people though, or they would never be in a situation that
> requires police intervention to start with.
>
Dave Smith
Jan 6, 2021, 10:13:22 AM1/6/21
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should not have been. These are the guys who protestors should be
rallying behind.
Many of these events are caught on video. It is amazing how people can
watch the same videos and see things completely differently. Then there
is the problem of videos catching only what happened at the end. They
tend to miss the events that inspired people to record it.
Police shootings are very rare in this region, but there have been three
in the last year, two of them in the last week. Yesterday's happened in
Niagara on the Lake when police were trying to stop a car with a
suspected drunk driver. There ended up being about a dozen cop cars
involved and a spike strip used. There was some sort of altercation and
the guy was shot and later died.
Master Bruce
Jan 6, 2021, 11:56:39 AM1/6/21
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On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 07:51:50 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
The cops weren't handling it professionally. They should just have
stopped him from getting into his car. But once he did, it was a
threatening situation. Do as the cops say, especially if they've
pulled a gun and are clearly afraid of you.
stopped him from getting into his car. But once he did, it was a
threatening situation. Do as the cops say, especially if they've
pulled a gun and are clearly afraid of you.
Master Bruce
Jan 6, 2021, 11:59:46 AM1/6/21
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Bryan Simmons
Jan 6, 2021, 5:34:53 PM1/6/21
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the tree limb lynched, would you cheer? I would.
--Bryan
Master Bruce
Jan 6, 2021, 5:44:27 PM1/6/21
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will lynch Joe Biden for stealing the election.
Dave Smith
Jan 6, 2021, 6:08:02 PM1/6/21
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counterfeit money?
Bryan Simmons
Jan 6, 2021, 6:50:30 PM1/6/21
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a shooting that can legitimately be seen as justified. Thing is, most cops get
away with killing when it isn't justifiable. Cops show a lot more restraint when
a seditious mob of White persons storm the Capitol. They only shot one of
the nutcases. Imagine if the mob had been Black.
>
> --
> Best
> Greg
--Bryan
Master Bruce
Jan 6, 2021, 6:56:12 PM1/6/21
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GM
Jan 6, 2021, 7:09:30 PM1/6/21
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Best
Greg
Dave Smith
Jan 6, 2021, 7:25:37 PM1/6/21
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last year and there wasn't much police use of violence until the rioters
and looters got involved.
dsi1
Jan 6, 2021, 7:33:05 PM1/6/21
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GM
Jan 6, 2021, 7:42:00 PM1/6/21
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--
Best
Greg
Bryan Simmons
Jan 6, 2021, 7:51:02 PM1/6/21
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are flags of treason. Now that the second Senate race has been called in
Georgia, we can expect new voting rights measures to pass. The Democrats
need to call the Republican's bluff about voter fraud by putting money into
making voter registration more secure. There will be bipartisan support for
a balanced bill that insures that every citizen has easy access to voting, and
that voter fraud can't happen. I'm sure that Senator Romney would be proud
to put his name on such a bill.
What happened in my country is disgraceful, and while I'd have been happy
to see the Republicans be knocked down a few notches, I don't want to see
the Republican Party descend into chaos. We may see a few Republicans
leave the party, and become independents who caucus with the
Republicans, like Senators Sanders and King caucus with the Democrats.
I'm still cheering the Senate victories in Georgia, but the past four years
have been an awful time in my nation's history, even though I have
personally come through it OK, especially financially, but also because
my family was lucky to have gotten mild cases of Covid, and I didn't
get fired over my hotheadeness about the Covid thing. I do know that
if I wasn't so damned high performing at my tasks, that they would
likely have thought that I was more trouble than I was worth. My
New Year's resolution is to keep my fucking mouth shut at work. If I
do that, I can coast to retirement.
--Bryan
Master Bruce
Jan 6, 2021, 7:57:26 PM1/6/21
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On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 16:50:56 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
agree that Trump's mentally ill. But I bet they'd rather not say
anything. It's all very embarrassing and awful to watch today. Xi Ping
and Putin must be rolling on the floor laughing.
<bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 5:56:12 PM UTC-6, Master Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 15:50:26 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
>> <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >I don't know what was "brave" about the officer's action, but it certainly was
>> >a shooting that can legitimately be seen as justified. Thing is, most cops get
>> >away with killing when it isn't justifiable. Cops show a lot more restraint when
>> >a seditious mob of White persons storm the Capitol. They only shot one of
>> >the nutcases. Imagine if the mob had been Black.
>> Yes, there would have been many more deaths.
>
>I heard that some of the mob were carrying Confederate battle flags. Those
>are flags of treason. Now that the second Senate race has been called in
>Georgia, we can expect new voting rights measures to pass. The Democrats
>need to call the Republican's bluff about voter fraud by putting money into
>making voter registration more secure. There will be bipartisan support for
>a balanced bill that insures that every citizen has easy access to voting, and
>that voter fraud can't happen. I'm sure that Senator Romney would be proud
>to put his name on such a bill.
>
>What happened in my country is disgraceful, and while I'd have been happy
>to see the Republicans be knocked down a few notches, I don't want to see
>the Republican Party descend into chaos. We may see a few Republicans
>leave the party, and become independents who caucus with the
>Republicans, like Senators Sanders and King caucus with the Democrats.
I wonder if RFC's staunchest Trump supporters, Leo and Joan, will now
>On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 5:56:12 PM UTC-6, Master Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 15:50:26 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
>> <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >I don't know what was "brave" about the officer's action, but it certainly was
>> >a shooting that can legitimately be seen as justified. Thing is, most cops get
>> >away with killing when it isn't justifiable. Cops show a lot more restraint when
>> >a seditious mob of White persons storm the Capitol. They only shot one of
>> >the nutcases. Imagine if the mob had been Black.
>> Yes, there would have been many more deaths.
>
>I heard that some of the mob were carrying Confederate battle flags. Those
>are flags of treason. Now that the second Senate race has been called in
>Georgia, we can expect new voting rights measures to pass. The Democrats
>need to call the Republican's bluff about voter fraud by putting money into
>making voter registration more secure. There will be bipartisan support for
>a balanced bill that insures that every citizen has easy access to voting, and
>that voter fraud can't happen. I'm sure that Senator Romney would be proud
>to put his name on such a bill.
>
>What happened in my country is disgraceful, and while I'd have been happy
>to see the Republicans be knocked down a few notches, I don't want to see
>the Republican Party descend into chaos. We may see a few Republicans
>leave the party, and become independents who caucus with the
>Republicans, like Senators Sanders and King caucus with the Democrats.
agree that Trump's mentally ill. But I bet they'd rather not say
anything. It's all very embarrassing and awful to watch today. Xi Ping
and Putin must be rolling on the floor laughing.
Bryan Simmons
Jan 6, 2021, 7:59:53 PM1/6/21
to
early standup days, but it was a XXXL. I gave it away to a Black guy I worked
with at the church, as he was a large man. Foxx was funny, especially in his
role on *Sanford and Son*. He was from St. Louis, but you won't be seeing
him in Vegas or anywhere else, as he's been dead for many years.
>
> --
> Best
> Greg
--Bryan
dsi1
Jan 6, 2021, 8:09:53 PM1/6/21
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I was okay with Trump winning the last time because scary shit was going to happen if he lost. I figured that would placate the Trump base and they would soon see what a nutcase he was and would reject him before the end of his term. Then everything would be right in the US of A. Ha ha, I was dead wrong.
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.food.cooking/c/wGtg42p1DnI/m/dsJBdEKQBQAJ
GM
Jan 6, 2021, 8:10:58 PM1/6/21
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Later in life he went through some messy financial stuff...blew his fortune on wine, women and song apparently... but he had fun...good 'ole Redd, lol...
8-D
--
Best
Greg
Bryan Simmons
Jan 6, 2021, 8:16:02 PM1/6/21
to
crimes in the State of New York. He'd be wise to leave the USA, and if
he fled to Russia, Putin would indeed be overjoyed. I'd suggest Yalta.
It has a nice yachting port, and plenty of young women with the eastern
European facial features that Trump seemingly prefers.
--Bryan
Bryan Simmons
Jan 6, 2021, 8:18:05 PM1/6/21
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Master Bruce
Jan 6, 2021, 8:21:10 PM1/6/21
to
On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 17:15:57 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
But have you seen what's been going on in the past so many hours?
That's not being censored or anything?
That's not being censored or anything?
Bryan Simmons
Jan 6, 2021, 8:22:26 PM1/6/21
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Hank Rogers
Jan 6, 2021, 8:43:17 PM1/6/21
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I guess you also found one for yourself master.
Bryan Simmons
Jan 6, 2021, 9:08:05 PM1/6/21
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American democracy. It's fucking beautiful. Those assholes who sought
to destroy our republican values have inspired the best session of our
Senate I've ever heard. I may cry myself to sleep, but they will be happy
tears.
--Bryan
Master Bruce
Jan 6, 2021, 9:13:58 PM1/6/21
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On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 18:07:59 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons
It should speak for itfuckingself.
>Those assholes who sought
>to destroy our republican values have inspired the best session of our
>Senate I've ever heard. I may cry myself to sleep, but they will be happy
>tears.
After your country has proven to be a banana republic? Well ok, if
that works for you.
>Those assholes who sought
>to destroy our republican values have inspired the best session of our
>Senate I've ever heard. I may cry myself to sleep, but they will be happy
>tears.
that works for you.
GM
Jan 6, 2021, 9:28:53 PM1/6/21
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bryang...@gmail.com wrote:
> Man, I'm on the edge of tears hearing Senators of both parties reaffirming
> American democracy. It's fucking beautiful. Those assholes who sought
> to destroy our republican values have inspired the best session of our
> Senate I've ever heard. I may cry myself to sleep, but they will be happy
> tears.
Naw, save yer tears man for something important...this is all just some "entertainment" for us lumpen peasants...tomorrow it'll be ALL about the Kim Kardashian - Kanye West split again...the MSM has gotta keep the fake outrage "pumped" to earn all them advertising $$$$$$$...after all they didn't make much off of stories about Sleepy Joe's socks or Princess Pelosi's designer ice cream or "flattening the curve", lol...
> Man, I'm on the edge of tears hearing Senators of both parties reaffirming
> American democracy. It's fucking beautiful. Those assholes who sought
> to destroy our republican values have inspired the best session of our
> Senate I've ever heard. I may cry myself to sleep, but they will be happy
> tears.
--
Best
Greg
itsjoan...@webtv.net
Jan 7, 2021, 12:10:01 AM1/7/21
to
On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 6:57:26 PM UTC-6, Master Bruce wrote:
>
> I wonder if RFC's staunchest Trump supporters, Leo and Joan, will now
> agree that Trump's mentally ill. But I bet they'd rather not say
> anything. It's all very embarrassing and awful to watch today. Xi Ping
> and Putin must be rolling on the floor laughing.
>
What happened today has nothing to do with your claim Trump is mentally ill.
>
> I wonder if RFC's staunchest Trump supporters, Leo and Joan, will now
> agree that Trump's mentally ill. But I bet they'd rather not say
> anything. It's all very embarrassing and awful to watch today. Xi Ping
> and Putin must be rolling on the floor laughing.
>
This garbage by Antifa has been planned for weeks and was all over the internet.
They didn't hide what they were planning but nobody took these idiots seriously.
Master Bruce
Jan 7, 2021, 12:15:00 AM1/7/21
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songbird
Jan 7, 2021, 5:08:23 AM1/7/21
to
Master Bruce wrote:
...
songbird
...
> Yes, there would have been many more deaths.
yep, you got it.
songbird
Lucretia Borgia
Jan 7, 2021, 7:12:02 AM1/7/21
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too many yells of 'Steal' etc. Even his message was spurring them on.
Gary
Jan 7, 2021, 7:47:20 AM1/7/21
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Master Bruce wrote:
> Bryan Simmons
What's wrong with you two?
> Bryan Simmons
>> If the cop who murdered Floyd were lynched, like the old fashioned rope over
>> the tree limb lynched, would you cheer? I would.
>
> No, because in this case the lynch mob would be right, but next a mob
> will lynch Joe Biden for stealing the election.
A lynch mob is never right.
>> the tree limb lynched, would you cheer? I would.
>
> No, because in this case the lynch mob would be right, but next a mob
> will lynch Joe Biden for stealing the election.
What's wrong with you two?
Gary
Jan 7, 2021, 7:47:41 AM1/7/21
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Master Bruce wrote:
> Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> Cops show a lot more restraint when
>> a seditious mob of White persons storm the Capitol. They only shot one of
>> the nutcases. Imagine if the mob had been Black.
>
> Yes, there would have been many more deaths.
Imagine if all the cops had been black at the Capitol yesterday. lol
> Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> Cops show a lot more restraint when
>> a seditious mob of White persons storm the Capitol. They only shot one of
>> the nutcases. Imagine if the mob had been Black.
>
> Yes, there would have been many more deaths.
bruce bowser
Jan 7, 2021, 8:16:35 AM1/7/21
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On Tuesday, January 5, 2021 at 5:25:16 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
> Thugs = 0
>
> Justice = +100
> Thugs = 0
>
Its SOCIAL Justice: and it just arrived to the US Senate !!
Cindy Hamilton
Jan 7, 2021, 8:34:58 AM1/7/21
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Trump banners and Confederate flags.
Cindy Hamilton
Graham
Jan 7, 2021, 10:12:45 AM1/7/21
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Master Bruce
Jan 7, 2021, 1:04:34 PM1/7/21
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:)
dsi1
Jan 7, 2021, 1:46:36 PM1/7/21
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXR_bqyAy4E
dsi1
Jan 7, 2021, 6:58:00 PM1/7/21
to
On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 1:50:30 PM UTC-10, bryang...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 12:43:54 AM UTC-6, GM wrote:
> > Graham wrote:
> > > On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 15:22:49 -0800 (PST), GM wrote:
> > >
> > > > Graham wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 12:43:54 AM UTC-6, GM wrote:
> > Graham wrote:
> > > On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 15:22:49 -0800 (PST), GM wrote:
> > >
> > > > Graham wrote:
> > > >> On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 14:25:10 -0800 (PST), GM wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Thugs = 0
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>> Thugs = 0
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Justice = ?
> > > >>>
> > > >> So the brave cops shot him in the back, multiple times!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That is *cop* not, "cops", Graham...please *do* pay attention - did you even bother to *read* the New York Times article that I so kindly provided...???
> > > >
> > > So, a brave cop shot him in the back seven times!
> > We thank you for acknowledging that the officer was brave in this ghastly situation, Graham...
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > This was a good call:
> >
> > 1. Exhibited criminal behavior? Check.
> > 2. Armed with a deadly weapon? Check.
> > 3. Violent resistance to lawful arrest? Check.
> > 4. Positioning himself to be a potential threat to three children? Check.
> >
> > Not only was Blake holding a deadly weapon while resisting lawful arrest for his outstanding warrant, he was just about to upgrade to another deadly weapon by fleeing the scene in his car, complete with child hostages. Imagine that the officer allowed him to leave and he harmed a child to get at his ex. What would the peanut gallery be screaming then...???
> >
> > > >>>
> > > >> So the brave cops shot him in the back, multiple times!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That is *cop* not, "cops", Graham...please *do* pay attention - did you even bother to *read* the New York Times article that I so kindly provided...???
> > > >
> > > So, a brave cop shot him in the back seven times!
> > We thank you for acknowledging that the officer was brave in this ghastly situation, Graham...
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > This was a good call:
> >
> > 1. Exhibited criminal behavior? Check.
> > 2. Armed with a deadly weapon? Check.
> > 3. Violent resistance to lawful arrest? Check.
> > 4. Positioning himself to be a potential threat to three children? Check.
> >
> > Not only was Blake holding a deadly weapon while resisting lawful arrest for his outstanding warrant, he was just about to upgrade to another deadly weapon by fleeing the scene in his car, complete with child hostages. Imagine that the officer allowed him to leave and he harmed a child to get at his ex. What would the peanut gallery be screaming then...???
> >
> I don't know what was "brave" about the officer's action, but it certainly was
> a shooting that can legitimately be seen as justified. Thing is, most cops get
> away with killing when it isn't justifiable. Cops show a lot more restraint when
> a shooting that can legitimately be seen as justified. Thing is, most cops get
> a seditious mob of White persons storm the Capitol. They only shot one of
> the nutcases. Imagine if the mob had been Black.
> >
> > --
> the nutcases. Imagine if the mob had been Black.
> >
> > Best
> > Greg
>
> --Bryan
My guess is that the majority of the cops/security are are on the side of the Trump supporters/terrorists/looters. They are totally unsuitable at protecting anything from the Trump minions. Well, excepting maybe, a box of doughnuts.
dsi1
Jan 7, 2021, 7:15:20 PM1/7/21
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T830Y97S5ZM
Hank Rogers
Jan 7, 2021, 7:20:39 PM1/7/21
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There ain't a single half breed jap islander.
It's time to protest and riot on da rock!
Master Bruce
Jan 7, 2021, 11:38:37 PM1/7/21
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<https://i.postimg.cc/Bv1hq1zs/Afghanistan-Helps.jpg>
cshenk
Jan 8, 2021, 12:14:23 AM1/8/21
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Lucretia Borgia
Jan 8, 2021, 7:34:36 AM1/8/21
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On Fri, 08 Jan 2021 15:38:31 +1100, Master Bruce
That would be funny, if it wasn't so near the truth!
Not At All
Jan 8, 2021, 11:33:27 AM1/8/21
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On 1/6/2021 9:09 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> What happened today has nothing to do with your claim Trump is mentally ill.
Yeah, actually, it does.
> What happened today has nothing to do with your claim Trump is mentally ill.
> This garbage by Antifa has been planned for weeks and was all over the internet.
> They didn't hide what they were planning but nobody took these idiots seriously.
Fuck off, you fascism-loving seditionist bitch.
Cindy Hamilton
Jan 8, 2021, 1:02:01 PM1/8/21
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On Thursday, January 7, 2021 at 12:10:01 AM UTC-5, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 6:57:26 PM UTC-6, Master Bruce wrote:
> >
> > I wonder if RFC's staunchest Trump supporters, Leo and Joan, will now
> > agree that Trump's mentally ill. But I bet they'd rather not say
> > anything. It's all very embarrassing and awful to watch today. Xi Ping
> > and Putin must be rolling on the floor laughing.
> >
> What happened today has nothing to do with your claim Trump is mentally ill.
> This garbage by Antifa has been planned for weeks and was all over the internet.
Do you have a citation for that? Can I find their plans somewhere on the Internet?
> >
> > I wonder if RFC's staunchest Trump supporters, Leo and Joan, will now
> > agree that Trump's mentally ill. But I bet they'd rather not say
> > anything. It's all very embarrassing and awful to watch today. Xi Ping
> > and Putin must be rolling on the floor laughing.
> >
> What happened today has nothing to do with your claim Trump is mentally ill.
> This garbage by Antifa has been planned for weeks and was all over the internet.
Cindy Hamilton
dsi1
Jan 8, 2021, 2:09:36 PM1/8/21
to
On Tuesday, January 5, 2021 at 12:25:16 PM UTC-10, GM wrote:
> Thugs = 0
Trump has a special message, only for the Trump MAGA Secret Circle. It is this: "GIANT VOICE (!)"
> Thugs = 0
===============================================================================
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/08/maga-internet-turns-on-trump-456490
‘Coward’: MAGA internet turns on Trump
The president acknowledged his defeat and urged for political reconciliation. His online faithful didn’t take it well.
By TINA NGUYEN
01/08/2021 11:20 AM EST
After years of fidelity, Donald Trump's most ardent online fans have finally turned on him.
All it took was for the president to acknowledge the reality of his loss a little over a day after they, the MAGA faithful, stormed the Capitol in a violent attempt to stop the certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s win.
“People were willing to die for this man and he just threw them all under the bus. That’s the only thing that’s shameful about the events of the past 36 hours,” Nick Fuentes, the host of the America First podcast and the unofficial leader of the white nationalist Groyper Army, angrily tweeted, shortly after Trump released a video Thursday night in which he conceded that Biden would be the next president and called for political reconciliation.
Cassandra Fairbanks, a prominent MAGA activist, tweeted: “[He] tells angry people to march to the capitol [and then] proceeds to throw his supporters under the bus.”
Jacob Wohl, the political dirty trickster known for failed plots to incriminate Trump critics, reposted her Tweet on his Parler page.
And when far-right stunt journalist and failed congressional candidate Laura Loomer posted Trump’s concession video on Parler — “It’s over,” Loomer bemoaned, “Life is about to become very hard for conservatives in America” — the people in her replies were aghast that she acknowledged Trump’s own words. “He DID NOT CONCEDE! ITS HIS NEW ADMINISTRATION that will be coming in,” one respondent wrote, a sentiment repeated ad nauseam down her feed.
The despondency among the MAGA faithful online represented perhaps the sharpest break the community has ever made with a president they’ve exalted. But it also prompted a familiar brand of skepticism that has marked the past four years: Was Trump merely trying to placate his establishment handlers? Or did he truly betray the MAGA movement, days after several of his followers died while following his instructions to storm the Capitol?
In the past, Trump had been able to keep his online devotees close by swinging back into their good graces, normally with a pot-stirring tweet or the announcement of a controversial right-wing policy. But just hours after the president released his concession video, many expressed shock that he may have closed the book on them forever.
QAnon conspiracy theorists, praying for years that Trump would flush Satan-worshipping pedophile elites out of Washington, tore apart any scrap of data from the video to prove that he was playing one final trick. They subjected the time stamps to numerology, thinking that there was a secret message encoded.
“In no way did Trump say he conceded. He said: transitioning to a new Admin. As in, he gonna clear this one out and bring a new one,” tweeted We The Inevitable, a conspiracy account, getting more than 3,000 retweets within the hour. The account’s followers agreed that this was surely a sign that he was getting rid of Vice President Mike Pence — now cast as a MAGA traitor after participating in the certification of Biden’s win — and that on Jan. 20, retired Gen. Michael Flynn, now a full-fledged QAnon patriot, would replace him in Trump’s second term.
And there was anger. It was directed at Trump for letting things get this far. Over on Parler, the social media platform beloved by the MAGA community for its lax moderation policies, users erupted in a fury, calling him a number of expletives, a “dildo,” and “100% THE SWAMP.”
Some tried to distance themselves from Trump despite their years of activity in MAGAworld, while aiming to redirect their followers’ anger at the next administration. “Yes there were issues. Call those out. Yes after FISA fraud and hoax after hoax, put pressure on Democrats and recognize they have no moral authority,” posted Mike Cernovich, a pizzagate conspiracist who was once nearly an investigative journalist. “But never, ever, go all in Trump.”
Others accepted the loss and showed appreciation for Trump’s remarks.
“Thank you @realDonaldTrump. We tried our best to uncover the truths in our electoral system. We learned a lot,” tweeted Ron Watkins, the former administrator of 8Kun, the forum that continues to host “Q drops” from the mysterious figure at the center of QAnon. “As Americans, we will support our president on January 20 and beyond.”
But the commentary was not without its share of conspiracy. A popular thread held that the Capitol rioters were actually antifa in disguise, there to trick the public into turning against the MAGA faithful and Trump himself. (Antifa is short for "anti-facists" and is an umbrella description of far left-leaning militant groups that resist neo-Nazis and white supremacists.) There was hope as well that Trump was merely biding his time. They analyzed every word of his video announcement and noticed, to their glee, that he did not formally acknowledge Joe Biden’s win — just merely that a new administration would take over on Jan. 20.
And then, as despair was kicking in, Trump gave them what they needed: a digital attaboy for their support.
“The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future,” Trump tweeted on Friday morning. “They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!”
And just like that, the faith was restored. “He says GIANT VOICE which are used in military installations to to alert everyone to EMERGENCIES in the area,” tweeted pro-QAnon account Copious MQ. It was retweeted 700 times within minutes.
“[I'm] feeling much better, for a minute I thought I was alone in my thinking,” one account replied.
Master Bruce
Jan 8, 2021, 2:28:26 PM1/8/21
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embarrassment.
Hank Rogers
Jan 8, 2021, 2:49:22 PM1/8/21
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If not, she must have sprayed decoy perfume on her ass!
Dave Smith
Jan 8, 2021, 2:53:50 PM1/8/21
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On 2021-01-08 2:09 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 5, 2021 at 12:25:16 PM UTC-10, GM wrote:
>> Thugs = 0
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 5, 2021 at 12:25:16 PM UTC-10, GM wrote:
>> Thugs = 0
>
>
> After years of fidelity, Donald Trump's most ardent online fans have finally turned on him.
>
> All it took was for the president to acknowledge the reality of his loss a little over a day after they, the MAGA faithful, stormed the Capitol in a violent attempt to stop the certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s win.
Think back to Germany and Austria after May 1945. There were suddenly no
>
> All it took was for the president to acknowledge the reality of his loss a little over a day after they, the MAGA faithful, stormed the Capitol in a violent attempt to stop the certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s win.
Nazis there.
dsi1
Jan 8, 2021, 3:08:47 PM1/8/21
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Graham
Jan 8, 2021, 3:25:56 PM1/8/21
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supporter when she states (on the BBC):
"It was just heart-breaking to watch what was going on and the behaviour of
protesters is just not like the Trump people I've been around. If it did
come from any conservatives, then I condemn it. There's no excuse for
violence.
It doesn't change my support for Trump. The people that love Trump, that's
not going to change no matter if he gets a second term or not. It just
means we're going to hold out for 2024 and hope either he runs again *or
his kids do.*
Our country is going to go downhill over the next four years if Biden does
take office. I'm actually moving today out of the city into the suburbs of
a Republican county because I am afraid of how Democratic counties will end
up under a Biden presidency.
We're going to catapult towards socialism and communism."
Cindy Hamilton
Jan 8, 2021, 3:36:02 PM1/8/21
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Cindy Hamilton
GM
Jan 8, 2021, 3:41:48 PM1/8/21
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Graham wrote:
> One wonders about the state of mind of this 35yr-old Repuglican Trump
> supporter when she states (on the BBC):
>
> "It was just heart-breaking to watch what was going on and the behaviour of
> protesters is just not like the Trump people I've been around. If it did
> come from any conservatives, then I condemn it. There's no excuse for
> violence.
> It doesn't change my support for Trump. The people that love Trump, that's
> not going to change no matter if he gets a second term or not. It just
> means we're going to hold out for 2024 and hope either he runs again *or
> his kids do.*
>
> Our country is going to go downhill over the next four years if Biden does
> take office. I'm actually moving today out of the city into the suburbs of
> a Republican county because I am afraid of how Democratic counties will end
> up under a Biden presidency.
>
> We're going to catapult towards socialism and communism."
If anyone wants socialism and communism they could just move to Canada, lol...!!!
> One wonders about the state of mind of this 35yr-old Repuglican Trump
> supporter when she states (on the BBC):
>
> "It was just heart-breaking to watch what was going on and the behaviour of
> protesters is just not like the Trump people I've been around. If it did
> come from any conservatives, then I condemn it. There's no excuse for
> violence.
> It doesn't change my support for Trump. The people that love Trump, that's
> not going to change no matter if he gets a second term or not. It just
> means we're going to hold out for 2024 and hope either he runs again *or
> his kids do.*
>
> Our country is going to go downhill over the next four years if Biden does
> take office. I'm actually moving today out of the city into the suburbs of
> a Republican county because I am afraid of how Democratic counties will end
> up under a Biden presidency.
>
> We're going to catapult towards socialism and communism."
;-D
OR they could pick any large US city governed by Democrats - Chicago, NYC, Atlanta, Frisco, Portland, Seattle, DC, Los Angeles, Minneapolis...they've gone full - bore socialist already, and Sleepy Joe and VP Kameltoe will boost them forwards to the final victory of communism..."Havana and Caracas, here we come...!!!"
--
Best
Greg
Graham
Jan 8, 2021, 3:43:18 PM1/8/21
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Master Bruce
Jan 8, 2021, 3:50:34 PM1/8/21
to
really think Biden's a socialist or a communist or a Marxist or all
three, whereas he's just a middle of the road US president who won't
change much. But as Obama said: Trump supporters live in their own
alternate reality. That's why they don't make sense to us and we don't
make sense to them.
Cindy Hamilton
Jan 8, 2021, 3:53:46 PM1/8/21
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On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 3:41:48 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
> OR they could pick any large US city governed by Democrats - Chicago, NYC, Atlanta, Frisco, Portland, Seattle, DC, Los Angeles, Minneapolis...they've gone full - bore socialist already, and Sleepy Joe and VP Kameltoe will boost them forwards to the final victory of communism..."Havana and Caracas, here we come...!!!"
Does it have to be a _large_ city governed by Democrats? I'm pretty happy with
> OR they could pick any large US city governed by Democrats - Chicago, NYC, Atlanta, Frisco, Portland, Seattle, DC, Los Angeles, Minneapolis...they've gone full - bore socialist already, and Sleepy Joe and VP Kameltoe will boost them forwards to the final victory of communism..."Havana and Caracas, here we come...!!!"
Ann Arbor.
Ok, I don't live in the city. Mainly because I don't want to live cheek by jowl with
my neighbors. City life just isn't for me.
Cindy Hamilton
S Viemeister
Jan 8, 2021, 3:58:31 PM1/8/21
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On 08/01/2021 20:35, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> We're going to catapult towards socialism and communism."
>
> I certainly wonder what she thinks "socialism" and "communism" are.
>
'Thinking' doesn't come into it. She 'believes'.
>> We're going to catapult towards socialism and communism."
>
> I certainly wonder what she thinks "socialism" and "communism" are.
>
GM
Jan 8, 2021, 4:01:47 PM1/8/21
to
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 3:41:48 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
>
> > OR they could pick any large US city governed by Democrats - Chicago, NYC, Atlanta, Frisco, Portland, Seattle, DC, Los Angeles, Minneapolis...they've gone full - bore socialist already, and Sleepy Joe and VP Kameltoe will boost them forwards to the final victory of communism..."Havana and Caracas, here we come...!!!"
> Does it have to be a _large_ city governed by Democrats? I'm pretty happy with
> Ann Arbor.
An Ann Arbor would be okay, it's in a place like Chicago where the rot has *really* set in...Ann Arbor I'm sure has a somewhat transparent government, and is not yet 1000% corrupt like Chicago has been for decades...
> On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 3:41:48 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
>
> > OR they could pick any large US city governed by Democrats - Chicago, NYC, Atlanta, Frisco, Portland, Seattle, DC, Los Angeles, Minneapolis...they've gone full - bore socialist already, and Sleepy Joe and VP Kameltoe will boost them forwards to the final victory of communism..."Havana and Caracas, here we come...!!!"
> Does it have to be a _large_ city governed by Democrats? I'm pretty happy with
> Ann Arbor.
> Ok, I don't live in the city. Mainly because I don't want to live cheek by jowl with
> my neighbors. City life just isn't for me.
I'll set up a chicken coop in your backyard, and help with the lawn chores...I am quiet, have a steady income and most importantly I don't smell too bad...
;-D
--
Best
Greg
Cindy Hamilton
Jan 8, 2021, 4:18:15 PM1/8/21
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Cindy Hamilton
Dave Smith
Jan 8, 2021, 4:18:20 PM1/8/21
to
On 2021-01-08 3:25 p.m., Graham wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Jan 2021 06:28:21 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 10:00:33 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2021 at 12:10:01 AM UTC-5, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 6:57:26 PM UTC-6, Master Bruce wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if RFC's staunchest Trump supporters, Leo and Joan, will now
>>>>> agree that Trump's mentally ill. But I bet they'd rather not say
>>>>> anything. It's all very embarrassing and awful to watch today. Xi Ping
>>>>> and Putin must be rolling on the floor laughing.
>>>>>
>>>> What happened today has nothing to do with your claim Trump is mentally ill.
>>>> This garbage by Antifa has been planned for weeks and was all over the internet.
>>>
>>> Do you have a citation for that? Can I find their plans somewhere on the Internet?
>>
>> I don't think she'll answer that. She seems to be hiding in
>> embarrassment.
>
> One wonders about the state of mind of this 35yr-old Repuglican Trump
> supporter when she states (on the BBC):
It's hard to understand Trump supporters. I have a friend who, despite
> On Sat, 09 Jan 2021 06:28:21 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 10:00:33 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2021 at 12:10:01 AM UTC-5, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 6:57:26 PM UTC-6, Master Bruce wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if RFC's staunchest Trump supporters, Leo and Joan, will now
>>>>> agree that Trump's mentally ill. But I bet they'd rather not say
>>>>> anything. It's all very embarrassing and awful to watch today. Xi Ping
>>>>> and Putin must be rolling on the floor laughing.
>>>>>
>>>> What happened today has nothing to do with your claim Trump is mentally ill.
>>>> This garbage by Antifa has been planned for weeks and was all over the internet.
>>>
>>> Do you have a citation for that? Can I find their plans somewhere on the Internet?
>>
>> I don't think she'll answer that. She seems to be hiding in
>> embarrassment.
>
> One wonders about the state of mind of this 35yr-old Repuglican Trump
> supporter when she states (on the BBC):
having no horse in the race, is a big fan of Trump. When I commented to
her about people starting to realize what a liar Trump is she was very
defensive and blamed yesterday's actions on Democrat lies and a corrupt
liberal press. This is a very intelligent and well educated woman. She
sits well to the right on political issues, but this thing about Trump
is hard to understand.
It is hard to imagine how anyone could talk about Democrats lying when
their idol lies every time he opens his mouth. There is that old saying
about how to be able to tell if a politicians (or lawyer) is lying....
their lips are moving. There has never been a better example of this
than Trump.
Master Bruce
Jan 8, 2021, 4:46:29 PM1/8/21
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Ed Pawlowski
Jan 8, 2021, 4:56:20 PM1/8/21
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On 1/8/2021 4:18 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>
> It's hard to understand Trump supporters. I have a friend who, despite
> having no horse in the race, is a big fan of Trump. When I commented to
> her about people starting to realize what a liar Trump is she was very
> defensive and blamed yesterday's actions on Democrat lies and a corrupt
> liberal press. This is a very intelligent and well educated woman. She
> sits well to the right on political issues, but this thing about Trump
> is hard to understand.
>
>
> It is hard to imagine how anyone could talk about Democrats lying when
> their idol lies every time he opens his mouth. There is that old saying
> about how to be able to tell if a politicians (or lawyer) is lying....
> their lips are moving. There has never been a better example of this
> than Trump.
>
I know what you mean. He has people mesmerized somehow. People that I
>
>
> It's hard to understand Trump supporters. I have a friend who, despite
> having no horse in the race, is a big fan of Trump. When I commented to
> her about people starting to realize what a liar Trump is she was very
> defensive and blamed yesterday's actions on Democrat lies and a corrupt
> liberal press. This is a very intelligent and well educated woman. She
> sits well to the right on political issues, but this thing about Trump
> is hard to understand.
>
>
> It is hard to imagine how anyone could talk about Democrats lying when
> their idol lies every time he opens his mouth. There is that old saying
> about how to be able to tell if a politicians (or lawyer) is lying....
> their lips are moving. There has never been a better example of this
> than Trump.
>
know are very smart too but they fall for him.
He promised to drain the swamp. He did and replaced it with a toxic
landfill.
Graham
Jan 8, 2021, 5:01:22 PM1/8/21
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such an extreme Trump supporter that he believes that Obama is evil. When
we meet, we no longer discuss politics.
Master Bruce
Jan 8, 2021, 5:09:12 PM1/8/21
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America. And now they're rolling on the floor laughing.
Hank Rogers
Jan 8, 2021, 5:14:41 PM1/8/21
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selling maple syrup!
We already have a dutch reprobate trying to sniff everyone's ass.
Our most revered navy cook hero in new york is saddened. Popeye
still hasn't been discharged (or given his VA quota of 70 pairs of
enormous titties), due to the evil democrat's coup attempt. Trump
thinks this is horrible, and HE has moved to set all these evil
democratic party breaches of democracy straight.
On Jan 20, there will be a real coup and shit show, with our duly
elected president declared dictator for life ... just like julius
fucking caesar. Ain't it wonderful ????????????????
Dave Smith
Jan 8, 2021, 5:27:15 PM1/8/21
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and that he ruined their country. Her father had been attracted to the
Nazis but her mother threatened to move out and take the kids with her.
A sister in law was a young girl in Vienna during the war. She said
that Hitler was their hero. Austria had been in a desperate situation
and he built roads and created jobs and brought prosperity.... before
things went for a shit.
Graham
Jan 8, 2021, 5:37:24 PM1/8/21
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The good is oft interred with their bones.”
Except in this case, Trump has NEVER done ANYTHING in the least bit good.
GM
Jan 8, 2021, 6:14:28 PM1/8/21
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;-D
--
Best
Greg
%
Jan 8, 2021, 6:27:39 PM1/8/21
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On 1/8/2021 5:09 PM, Master Bruce wrote:
> Maybe, before covid, the Chinese released a brain virus in North
> America. And now they're rolling on the floor laughing.
>
and you're stuck humping american posts
> Maybe, before covid, the Chinese released a brain virus in North
> America. And now they're rolling on the floor laughing.
>
Master Bruce
Jan 8, 2021, 6:58:43 PM1/8/21
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concept of democracy. It's clear that not the US, but Europe is the
leader of the free world. Europeans already knew that, but now
Americans realise it too :)
%
Jan 8, 2021, 7:14:20 PM1/8/21
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almost as big as texas so you're opinion on america is nill *here*
have you ever noticed how this froup is almost all americans, you
might try an aussie group if you want anyone to give a flying
fuck about your opinion of the usa, afterall that's obviously all you
have to be concerned with over there, we're on your news channels
24/7
Master Bruce
Jan 8, 2021, 7:23:24 PM1/8/21
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On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 19:14:12 -0500, % <per...@peescent.net> wrote:
>On 1/8/2021 6:58 PM, Master Bruce wrote:
>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 18:27:33 -0500, % <per...@peescent.net> wrote:
>>
>>> and you're stuck humping american posts
>>
>> I recently started feeling sorry for how Americans struggle with the
>> concept of democracy. It's clear that not the US, but Europe is the
>> leader of the free world. Europeans already knew that, but now
>> Americans realise it too :)
>>
>you live in non american country with a population and economy
>almost as big as texas so you're opinion on america is nill *here*
The importance of my opinion isn't related to the size of the
>On 1/8/2021 6:58 PM, Master Bruce wrote:
>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 18:27:33 -0500, % <per...@peescent.net> wrote:
>>
>>> and you're stuck humping american posts
>>
>> I recently started feeling sorry for how Americans struggle with the
>> concept of democracy. It's clear that not the US, but Europe is the
>> leader of the free world. Europeans already knew that, but now
>> Americans realise it too :)
>>
>you live in non american country with a population and economy
>almost as big as texas so you're opinion on america is nill *here*
population and economy of the country where I live. What a strange,
simplistic idea :)
>have you ever noticed how this froup is almost all americans, you
>might try an aussie group if you want anyone to give a flying
>fuck about your opinion of the usa
>, afterall that's obviously all you have to be concerned
>with over there, we're on your news channels 24/7
is one of the more entertaining ones. They were lucky they weren't
black.
dsi1
Jan 8, 2021, 7:31:15 PM1/8/21
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https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/why-russian-hack-so-significant-why-it-s-close-worst-n1252131
Hank Rogers
Jan 8, 2021, 7:36:34 PM1/8/21
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/8/2021 4:18 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> It's hard to understand Trump supporters. I have a friend who,
>> despite having no horse in the race, is a big fan of Trump. When
>> I commented to her about people starting to realize what a liar
>> Trump is she was very defensive and blamed yesterday's actions on
>> Democrat lies and a corrupt liberal press. This is a very
>> intelligent and well educated woman. She sits well to the right
>> on political issues, but this thing about Trump is hard to
>> understand.
>>
>>
>> It is hard to imagine how anyone could talk about Democrats lying
>> when their idol lies every time he opens his mouth. There is
> On 1/8/2021 4:18 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> It's hard to understand Trump supporters. I have a friend who,
>> despite having no horse in the race, is a big fan of Trump. When
>> I commented to her about people starting to realize what a liar
>> Trump is she was very defensive and blamed yesterday's actions on
>> Democrat lies and a corrupt liberal press. This is a very
>> intelligent and well educated woman. She sits well to the right
>> on political issues, but this thing about Trump is hard to
>> understand.
>>
>>
>> It is hard to imagine how anyone could talk about Democrats lying
>> that old saying about how to be able to tell if a politiciansÂ
>> (or lawyer) is lying.... their lips are moving. There has never
>> been a better example of this than Trump.
>>
>
> I know what you mean. He has people mesmerized somehow. People
> that I know are very smart too but they fall for him.
>
> He promised to drain the swamp. He did and replaced it with a
> toxic landfill.
I only know two people from history that had his sort of charisma.
>> been a better example of this than Trump.
>>
>
> I know what you mean. He has people mesmerized somehow. People
> that I know are very smart too but they fall for him.
>
> He promised to drain the swamp. He did and replaced it with a
> toxic landfill.
Adolf hitler
Jim jones.
Hank Rogers
Jan 8, 2021, 7:40:25 PM1/8/21
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You must have sniffed an infected butt hole!
Hank Rogers
Jan 8, 2021, 7:43:02 PM1/8/21
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%
Jan 8, 2021, 8:04:52 PM1/8/21
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On 1/8/2021 7:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> most Americans aren't even aware that our nations's security has been severely compromised. Mission accomplished Comrade Trump! You will be awarded the Hero of the Russian Federation when you arrive in Moscow on the 20th.
> https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/why-russian-hack-so-significant-why-it-s-close-worst-n1252131
>
good thing we don't have to worry about the japs
> most Americans aren't even aware that our nations's security has been severely compromised. Mission accomplished Comrade Trump! You will be awarded the Hero of the Russian Federation when you arrive in Moscow on the 20th.
> https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/why-russian-hack-so-significant-why-it-s-close-worst-n1252131
>
bombing pearl harbor again, but keep an eye out
to the west just in case
at least those russians don't look like japs or chinks
Hank Rogers
Jan 8, 2021, 8:05:08 PM1/8/21
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won't hurt you, but may tickle your ass a little.
%
Jan 8, 2021, 8:06:59 PM1/8/21
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On 1/8/2021 7:23 PM, Master Bruce wrote:
> They were lucky they weren't black.
>
or aborigine
> They were lucky they weren't black.
>
Ed Pawlowski
Jan 8, 2021, 8:08:21 PM1/8/21
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will call tomorrow will be a 2 to 3 hour conversation with a lot of
politics. We often don't agree but can have a good conversation and
exchange our POV. She is very sensible.
The other just cannot understand why people would not vote for Trump
again. He did so much good for the country. While very intelligent,
she watches Fox financial channel to track her stocks but also gets her
politics there. I won't even mention there was an election let alone
the results.
Master Bruce
Jan 8, 2021, 8:16:45 PM1/8/21
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On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 20:04:46 -0500, % <per...@peescent.net> wrote:
>On 1/8/2021 7:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> most Americans aren't even aware that our nations's security has been severely compromised. Mission accomplished Comrade Trump! You will be awarded the Hero of the Russian Federation when you arrive in Moscow on the 20th.
>> https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/why-russian-hack-so-significant-why-it-s-close-worst-n1252131
>>
>good thing we don't have to worry about the japs
>bombing pearl harbor again, but keep an eye out
>to the west just in case
Pearl Harbor was nothing. Look at how many Americans Trump killed.
>On 1/8/2021 7:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> most Americans aren't even aware that our nations's security has been severely compromised. Mission accomplished Comrade Trump! You will be awarded the Hero of the Russian Federation when you arrive in Moscow on the 20th.
>> https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/why-russian-hack-so-significant-why-it-s-close-worst-n1252131
>>
>good thing we don't have to worry about the japs
>bombing pearl harbor again, but keep an eye out
>to the west just in case
Bryan Simmons
Jan 8, 2021, 8:23:00 PM1/8/21
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On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 12:02:01 PM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, January 7, 2021 at 12:10:01 AM UTC-5, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 6:57:26 PM UTC-6, Master Bruce wrote:
> > >
> > > I wonder if RFC's staunchest Trump supporters, Leo and Joan, will now
> > > agree that Trump's mentally ill. But I bet they'd rather not say
> > > anything. It's all very embarrassing and awful to watch today. Xi Ping
> > > and Putin must be rolling on the floor laughing.
> > >
> > What happened today has nothing to do with your claim Trump is mentally ill.
> > This garbage by Antifa has been planned for weeks and was all over the internet.
>
No, Joann, it was your people who did it. It wasn't lefties or colored folks in whiteface
> On Thursday, January 7, 2021 at 12:10:01 AM UTC-5, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 6:57:26 PM UTC-6, Master Bruce wrote:
> > >
> > > I wonder if RFC's staunchest Trump supporters, Leo and Joan, will now
> > > agree that Trump's mentally ill. But I bet they'd rather not say
> > > anything. It's all very embarrassing and awful to watch today. Xi Ping
> > > and Putin must be rolling on the floor laughing.
> > >
> > What happened today has nothing to do with your claim Trump is mentally ill.
> > This garbage by Antifa has been planned for weeks and was all over the internet.
>
who stormed the temple of our democratic republic. It wasn't commies or anarchists.
It was folks who share your beliefs.
I'm a moderate social democrat, and if there was a threat to democracy from the left,
which there isn't, I would oppose that. There is no threat to democracy from the left,
none whatsoever, in the big picture, as for the past few years the activism on the left
has mostly been focused on equal justice for non-White persons.
>
> Do you have a citation for that? Can I find their plans somewhere on the Internet?
>
Joann has revealed herself to be a nutcase who believed that the Trump supporters
> Do you have a citation for that? Can I find their plans somewhere on the Internet?
>
that stormed the Capitol were Antifas in MAGA hats. Heck, Antifa *black guard*
activists were wearing face coverings long before Covid. They don't want to lose their
jobs. Joann, like the Nazis sympathizers in Germany who believed that it was the
communists, rather than the Nazis, who burned the Reichstag, and they repeated that
nonsense, actually suggested that.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
--Bryan
dsi1
Jan 8, 2021, 8:23:56 PM1/8/21
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Bryan Simmons
Jan 8, 2021, 8:31:32 PM1/8/21
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On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 2:36:02 PM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 3:25:56 PM UTC-5, Graham wrote:
> > On Sat, 09 Jan 2021 06:28:21 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:
>
Capitalism did not defeat the USSR. A system balanced between free enterprise
and governmental regulations, with a relatively unrestricted press defeated the
Soviets.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
--Bryan
> On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 3:25:56 PM UTC-5, Graham wrote:
> > On Sat, 09 Jan 2021 06:28:21 +1100, Master Bruce wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 10:00:33 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > > <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>On Thursday, January 7, 2021 at 12:10:01 AM UTC-5, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > >>> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 6:57:26 PM UTC-6, Master Bruce wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I wonder if RFC's staunchest Trump supporters, Leo and Joan, will now
> > >>> > agree that Trump's mentally ill. But I bet they'd rather not say
> > >>> > anything. It's all very embarrassing and awful to watch today. Xi Ping
> > >>> > and Putin must be rolling on the floor laughing.
> > >>> >
> > >>> What happened today has nothing to do with your claim Trump is mentally ill.
> > >>> This garbage by Antifa has been planned for weeks and was all over the internet.
> > >>
> > > On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 10:00:33 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > > <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>On Thursday, January 7, 2021 at 12:10:01 AM UTC-5, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > >>> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 6:57:26 PM UTC-6, Master Bruce wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I wonder if RFC's staunchest Trump supporters, Leo and Joan, will now
> > >>> > agree that Trump's mentally ill. But I bet they'd rather not say
> > >>> > anything. It's all very embarrassing and awful to watch today. Xi Ping
> > >>> > and Putin must be rolling on the floor laughing.
> > >>> >
> > >>> What happened today has nothing to do with your claim Trump is mentally ill.
> > >>> This garbage by Antifa has been planned for weeks and was all over the internet.
> > >>
> > >>Do you have a citation for that? Can I find their plans somewhere on the Internet?
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't think she'll answer that. She seems to be hiding in
> > > embarrassment.
> > One wonders about the state of mind of this 35yr-old Repuglican Trump
> > supporter when she states (on the BBC):
> >
> > "It was just heart-breaking to watch what was going on and the behaviour of
> > protesters is just not like the Trump people I've been around. If it did
> > come from any conservatives, then I condemn it. There's no excuse for
> > violence.
> > It doesn't change my support for Trump. The people that love Trump, that's
> > not going to change no matter if he gets a second term or not. It just
> > means we're going to hold out for 2024 and hope either he runs again *or
> > his kids do.*
> >
> > Our country is going to go downhill over the next four years if Biden does
> > take office. I'm actually moving today out of the city into the suburbs of
> > a Republican county because I am afraid of how Democratic counties will end
> > up under a Biden presidency.
> >
> > We're going to catapult towards socialism and communism."
> I certainly wonder what she thinks "socialism" and "communism" are.
> > > embarrassment.
> > One wonders about the state of mind of this 35yr-old Repuglican Trump
> > supporter when she states (on the BBC):
> >
> > "It was just heart-breaking to watch what was going on and the behaviour of
> > protesters is just not like the Trump people I've been around. If it did
> > come from any conservatives, then I condemn it. There's no excuse for
> > violence.
> > It doesn't change my support for Trump. The people that love Trump, that's
> > not going to change no matter if he gets a second term or not. It just
> > means we're going to hold out for 2024 and hope either he runs again *or
> > his kids do.*
> >
> > Our country is going to go downhill over the next four years if Biden does
> > take office. I'm actually moving today out of the city into the suburbs of
> > a Republican county because I am afraid of how Democratic counties will end
> > up under a Biden presidency.
> >
> > We're going to catapult towards socialism and communism."
>
Capitalism did not defeat the USSR. A system balanced between free enterprise
and governmental regulations, with a relatively unrestricted press defeated the
Soviets.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
--Bryan
%
Jan 8, 2021, 8:35:43 PM1/8/21
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for no reason. you're asian so your an outsider almost
as much as bruce is
%
Jan 8, 2021, 8:37:11 PM1/8/21
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Hank Rogers
Jan 8, 2021, 8:51:19 PM1/8/21
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/8/2021 5:01 PM, Graham wrote:
>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 16:56:14 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/8/2021 4:18 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's hard to understand Trump supporters. I have a friend who,
>>>> despite
>>>> having no horse in the race, is a big fan of Trump. When I
>>>> commented to
>>>> her about people starting to realize what a liar Trump is she
>>>> was very
>>>> defensive and blamed yesterday's actions on Democrat lies and a
>>>> corrupt
>>>> liberal press. This is a very intelligent and well educated
>>>> woman. She
>>>> sits well to the right on political issues, but this thing
>>>> about Trump
>>>> is hard to understand.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is hard to imagine how anyone could talk about Democrats
>>>> lying when
>>>> their idol lies every time he opens his mouth. There is that
> On 1/8/2021 5:01 PM, Graham wrote:
>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 16:56:14 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/8/2021 4:18 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's hard to understand Trump supporters. I have a friend who,
>>>> despite
>>>> having no horse in the race, is a big fan of Trump. When I
>>>> commented to
>>>> her about people starting to realize what a liar Trump is she
>>>> was very
>>>> defensive and blamed yesterday's actions on Democrat lies and a
>>>> corrupt
>>>> liberal press. This is a very intelligent and well educated
>>>> woman. She
>>>> sits well to the right on political issues, but this thing
>>>> about Trump
>>>> is hard to understand.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is hard to imagine how anyone could talk about Democrats
>>>> lying when
>>>> old saying
>>>> about how to be able to tell if a politicians (or lawyer) is
>>>> lying....
>>>> their lips are moving. There has never been a better example of
>>>> this
>>>> than Trump.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I know what you mean. He has people mesmerized somehow. People
>>> that I
>>> know are very smart too but they fall for him.
>>>
>>> He promised to drain the swamp. He did and replaced it with a
>>> toxic
>>> landfill.
>>
>> I have a very highly educated friend, who is now a US citizen,
>> and he is
>> such an extreme Trump supporter that he believes that Obama is
>> evil. When
>> we meet, we no longer discuss politics.
>>
> Oh, I know that. I have two friends I call usually weekly. The
> one i will call tomorrow will be a 2 to 3 hour conversation with a
> lot of politics. We often don't agree but can have a good
> conversation and exchange our POV. She is very sensible.
>
> The other just cannot understand why people would not vote for
> Trump again. He did so much good for the country. While very
> intelligent, she watches Fox financial channel to track her stocks
> but also gets her politics there. I won't even mention there was
> an election let alone the results.
Very wise. Don't set one of them off.
>>>> their lips are moving. There has never been a better example of
>>>> this
>>>> than Trump.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I know what you mean. He has people mesmerized somehow. People
>>> that I
>>> know are very smart too but they fall for him.
>>>
>>> He promised to drain the swamp. He did and replaced it with a
>>> toxic
>>> landfill.
>>
>> I have a very highly educated friend, who is now a US citizen,
>> and he is
>> such an extreme Trump supporter that he believes that Obama is
>> evil. When
>> we meet, we no longer discuss politics.
>>
> Oh, I know that. I have two friends I call usually weekly. The
> one i will call tomorrow will be a 2 to 3 hour conversation with a
> lot of politics. We often don't agree but can have a good
> conversation and exchange our POV. She is very sensible.
>
> The other just cannot understand why people would not vote for
> Trump again. He did so much good for the country. While very
> intelligent, she watches Fox financial channel to track her stocks
> but also gets her politics there. I won't even mention there was
> an election let alone the results.
Master Bruce
Jan 8, 2021, 8:52:28 PM1/8/21
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Americans killed during 9/11: 2,977
Americans killed in Vietnam: 58,200
Americans killed by Trump: more than 350,000
Hank Rogers
Jan 8, 2021, 8:52:30 PM1/8/21
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Graham
Jan 8, 2021, 8:58:17 PM1/8/21
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Trump? Then again, who would have thought that this abomination would
attract so many votes?
Hank Rogers
Jan 8, 2021, 8:58:36 PM1/8/21
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