OT Thou Shalt NOT Worship False Idols!

[John Kuthe]

One more reason I do not have, want or carry a CELLPHONE!

Think about it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBFoV6jn79c

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Non Connected Shaman!

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Sunday, May 26, 2019 at 6:11:23 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> One more reason I do not have, want or carry a CELLPHONE!

The only way cellphones become idols is because weak-minded people
let them.

I carry a cellphone. It's in my pocket, not in my hand.

Cindy Hamilton

[Terry Coombs]

  Our flip phone lives in the console compartment in our car . No cell
service (or TV reception!) where we live , ours is used only for trips
and emergencies .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Monday, May 27, 2019 at 9:05:22 AM UTC-4, Terry Coombs wrote:
> On 5/27/2019 4:53 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 26, 2019 at 6:11:23 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> >> One more reason I do not have, want or carry a CELLPHONE!
> > The only way cellphones become idols is because weak-minded people
> > let them.
> >
> > I carry a cellphone. It's in my pocket, not in my hand.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
>   Our flip phone lives in the console compartment in our car . No cell
> service (or TV reception!) where we live , ours is used only for trips
> and emergencies .

None of us crotchety old farts makes much use of cellphones. I wonder
if Kuthe is reacting to his tenants' cellphone habits.

Cindy Hamilton

[Thomas]

I am totally connected, wi fi, phones, alexa etc but get one call a week and call out one a month. My att bill was 126 for 2 smart phones, 4 tablets, roku and a bunch. My tv was 166. I hate tv but att says my town is to small to provide internet. If needed, I can close it all down but at this time I enjoy the noise when I want it.

[Terry Coombs]

On 5/27/2019 2:29 PM, Thomas wrote:
> I am totally connected, wi fi, phones, alexa etc but get one call a week and call out one a month. My att bill was 126 for 2 smart phones, 4 tablets, roku and a bunch. My tv was 166. I hate tv but att says my town is to small to provide internet. If needed, I can close it all down but at this time I enjoy the noise when I want it.

Our internet (10+ Mb/sec DSL 12 miles from town) and phone is under a
hundred a month , we stream all our TV content over the internet for
under 25 bucks a month . I think the cell phone is like 70 bucks a year
. As of right now there are a total of 6 computers networked and powered
- 3 laptops and 3 desktops . Each has it's own task , for example the
laptop in the shop has shortcuts to  all my machining information on the
desktop , the one hooked to the TV has my media files , etc . But not a
single "smart" appliance or device in the house . They ALL spy on you in
one way or another . I've gone as far as covering the lens of the camera
on my "new" laptop (Lenovo T510 refurbed corporate lease return) with a
small piece of electrical tape .

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, May 27, 2019 at 4:39:57 PM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:
>
> But not a
> single "smart" appliance or device in the house . They ALL spy on you in
> one way or another . I've gone as far as covering the lens of the camera

> on my "new" laptop with a

> small piece of electrical tape .
>

> Snag
>
Every laptop that I've ever had that has the webcam is immediately covered with
a piece of electrical tape as soon as I bring it home.

[jmcquown]

On 5/27/2019 10:10 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> I wonder
> if Kuthe is reacting to his tenants' cellphone habits.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Didn't he once try to get his tenants to share in the cost of his land
line? You know they had a good laugh at the crazy man as they went off
to class with their cell phones in their hands.

Jill

[John Kuthe]

On Monday, May 27, 2019 at 4:58:42 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
...

>
> Didn't he once try to get his tenants to share in the cost of his land
> line? You know they had a good laugh at the crazy man as they went off
> to class with their cell phones in their hands.
>
> Jill

Used to be, we ALL share ALL the Utility costs! And Phone USED TO BE a house Utility! UNTIL Cell Phone users got SELFISH and didn't want to pay for a house phone Utility gto save each a few bucks!! Then I had to find myself a low cost phone option and I DID!
Basictalk.com over the Internet! About $12/mo for me exclusively as my Basictalk phone is on a hardwire Ethernet feed to my room!

Now in this house, we have no Phone Utility! And Internet was always rolled into the rent, so that's what I do too! I itemize the other utilities, gas, electric, garbage, water, sewer, etc. Big Bucks rentals roll everything into Rent, which is bullshit! Makes Rents Astronomical!! My house room rents are NOT astronomical! And we all share itemized Utils! Kind of Mini-Socialism!

John Kuthe...

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Monday, May 27, 2019 at 7:57:27 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Monday, May 27, 2019 at 4:58:42 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> ...
> >
> > Didn't he once try to get his tenants to share in the cost of his land
> > line? You know they had a good laugh at the crazy man as they went off
> > to class with their cell phones in their hands.
> >
> > Jill
>
> Used to be, we ALL share ALL the Utility costs! And Phone USED TO BE a house Utility! UNTIL Cell Phone users got SELFISH and didn't want to pay for a house phone Utility gto save each a few bucks!!

I figured it was something like that. Why should they pay for something
they don't use?

> Then I had to find myself a low cost phone option and I DID!
> Basictalk.com over the Internet! About $12/mo for me exclusively as my Basictalk phone is on a hardwire Ethernet feed to my room!
>
> Now in this house, we have no Phone Utility! And Internet was always rolled into the rent, so that's what I do too! I itemize the other utilities, gas, electric, garbage, water, sewer, etc. Big Bucks rentals roll everything into Rent, which is bullshit! Makes Rents Astronomical!! My house room rents are NOT astronomical! And we all share itemized Utils! Kind of Mini-Socialism!

What difference does it make whether it's rolled into the rent or itemized?
They still have to pay it.

I can't remember renting an apartment where utilities were rolled into the
rent. I always received a bill from the electric company, the gas company,
and Ma Bell.

Cindy Hamilton

[Ophelia]

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message news:qchlf9$263$3...@dont-email.me...

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My husband has covered the lenses of our computer for years now.

I am not too sure what is meant by a 'smart appliance'.

[Bruce]

On Mon, 27 May 2019 16:39:56 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
wrote:

Boys and their toys. One thing is for sure: when they aliens come,
you'll be prepared!

[Terry Coombs]

  "Smart appliances" are the ones that are WiFi connected - can you
link to your refrigerator via your cell phone while at the market to see
if you need milk ?

[Terry Coombs]

  The aliens are pouring across our southern border by the thousands
every day . I've been prepared for years ... take that any way you want
Bwooosey .

[Bruce]

On Tue, 28 May 2019 06:28:15 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>

Did you know you can learn Spanish on the Internet? Talk about being
prepared, amigo!

[Terry Coombs]

  Je ne comprend pas l'Espanol , mais je parlez en Francaise un peu .

[Bruce]

On Tue, 28 May 2019 06:48:46 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>

Very admirable nevertheless!

[Cindy Hamilton]

Not just that. I could turn on my oven from my cell phone. But
I refuse to give it my WiFi password.

Cindy Hamilton

[Gary]

Terry Coombs wrote:
>
> Ā "Smart appliances" are the ones that are WiFi connected - can you

> link to your refrigerator via your cell phone while at the market to see
> if you need milk ?

LOL. that always just cracks me up. People now are so ultra
dependent on cell phones.

Take away cell phones now and this entire country will collapse
in misery with much wailing and gnashing of teeth. :)

[Gary]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Not just that. I could turn on my oven from my cell phone. But
> I refuse to give it my WiFi password.

IMO, no one should be cooking anything (even in a crockpot)
unless they are home to supervise. What if you never make it
home? Accidents do happen.

[Gary]

Bruce wrote:
>
> Did you know you can learn Spanish on the Internet? Talk about being
> prepared, amigo!

Back when I was in Jr.High and HS, we had a choice of foreign
languages....French or Spanish. I chose sissy French but boy I
sure wish I had picked Spanish now.

[Cindy Hamilton]

I could turn it on from the living room with my cell phone,
thus avoiding a long and painful walk of 15 feet. ;)

Cindy Hamilton

[Ed Pawlowski]

Whoa, wait a minute there. You expect a person to walk from the living
room to the kitchen just to adjust an oven?

Seems silly to me to have an appliance on the wi-fi. Unless it can turn
the potatoes or baste the turkey, what is the use? I do have a shopping
list on my phone so I can add things as I run out or think of them.

[Dave Smith]

On 2019-05-28 9:09 a.m., Gary wrote:

> LOL. that always just cracks me up. People now are so ultra
> dependent on cell phones.
>
> Take away cell phones now and this entire country will collapse
> in misery with much wailing and gnashing of teeth. :)

Now that the nice weather has returned I am seeing a lot of young
mothers out pushing strollers. They invariably are using one hand to
push the stroller and are using the other to hold the phone they are
fixated on.

[jmcquown]

IIRC two years of a language course was mandatory. I took 2 years of
Spanish. The teacher was actually Spanish (not Mexican, she was from
Spain). Thing is, unless you are *really* interested in learning the
language and immersed yourself in studying it, the classes were pretty
useless. I would be hard pressed to have a conversation with anyone in
Spanish. I remember how to ask "where is the library?" but I wouldn't
understand the answer. LOL

When we lived in Bangkok, having to take Thai classes made sense. The
teacher taught *practical* usage. After teaching us numbers and about
money, she set up a faux market in the classroom with plaster fruits,
vegetables, meats and other goods. She taught us the names of those
items and how to bargain for better prices. :)

Jill

[Janet]

In article <5CED3D60...@att.net>, g.ma...@att.net says...

I've often left the oven on an automated program to provide a hot meal
ready when we get home.

It turns itself on at the time I chose, cooks at the required
temperature for the required time than turns itself off.

never had a problem.

Janet UK

[jmcquown]

The very thought of having to walk to the kitchen to turn on the oven
makes me tired. LOL

Seriously, though. You have to go into the kitchen anyway to prep and
put whatever you're cooking *in* the oven. I don't know about you but I
don't leave raw food sitting in the oven for hours waiting for a signal
to turn it on. The people who think it's a nifty feature probably don't
cook.

Jill

[jmcquown]

The state of New York is proposing legislation to make it illegal for
pedestrians to stare at their cell phones while crossing the street.

Jill

[jmcquown]

Yeah... because no one can simply look in the refrigerator before they
go to the store to see if they need milk (or whatever). ;)

Jill

[Dave Smith]

There is a PC mantra about not blaming victims, but I think that
pedestrians have obligation to watch out for their own safety. I
remember police officers coming around to schools to teach road safety.
We were expected to walk single file facing traffic, the wear bright
clothing, light coloured clothing at night, and to stop, look and listen
before crossing a street.

There is a lot of squawking from bicyclists about sharing the road and
watching out for cyclists. No pun intended, but it is a two way street.
They are their own worst enemies. Most cyclists around here are
adults,and they even though they are likely licensed drivers, they ride
in complete oblivion of the rules of the road. They ride in the middle
of the road, sometimes 2 or 3 abreast and refuse to move over to allow
cars to pass safely. They ignore traffic signs and lights, ride the
wrong way on one way streets and on side walks. They might get more
respect on the road if they showed a little respect themselves.

[graham]

Motorists might get a little more respect if THEY behaved as well!

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 8:57:23 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> Back when I was in Jr.High and HS, we had a choice of foreign
> languages....French or Spanish. I chose sissy French but boy I
> sure wish I had picked Spanish now.
>

When I was in high school we had our choice of French, Spanish, or Latin or
none if you didn't want to learn a foreign language. I chose none as it was
not compulsory.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 9:26:53 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Now that the nice weather has returned I am seeing a lot of young
> mothers out pushing strollers. They invariably are using one hand to
> push the stroller and are using the other to hold the phone they are
> fixated on.
>

Dave, I see that going by my door 365 days a year. I live two blocks from a
city park. At the end of my street is the dark park and community center and
they're pushing a stroller, dog leash in one hand and it's on the stroller
handle. The other hand has the cell phone that they are checking/reading.
But it's not just the mom's, I see the dads doing the same thing.

[Dave Smith]

Speaking as a motorist, a motorcyclist and bicyclist, I have to agree
that a portion of motorists definitely need to behave a little better,
but it is the pedestrians and bicyclists who have the highest
percentages exhibiting bad behaviour.

I live in an area that hosts bicycle races, so we are cursed with
cycling clubs practicing. Stop signs don't even exist for those guys.

[Dave Smith]

We started learning French in Gr.7. In high school we were supposed to
take at least one language. They offered Latin,French, German and
Spanish. I took French and German.

[Bruce]

Y'all live in a fascinating country, where your oven is spying on you
and talking to the FBI on a regular basis. Or maybe it's not a
country, but a state. A state of mind.

[Bruce]

French is a great language, but I see your point for practical
reasons.

[Cindy Hamilton]

It's not spying on me, since it's not connected to WiFi. I don't need
any of the "smart" features, so I didn't bother.

Really, if I can't walk over to the oven to see if it's on, I might
as well stick my head in it.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

The only purpose of other languages than English, is to piss off
Americans. And if English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough
for us.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 1:51:14 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >>
> >When I was in high school we had our choice of French, Spanish, or Latin or
> >none if you didn't want to learn a foreign language. I chose none as it was
> >not compulsory.
>
> The only purpose of other languages than English, is to piss off
> Americans. And if English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough
> for us.
>

I saw no reason to take a foreign language as I doubted I would visit those
countries where the offered languages were spoken. If I had visited any of
those countries I would not have been there long enough to be conversing on
an hourly basis with any of the natives.

Now that we are being swamped with Latinos, I can see where learning Spanish
would have been a benefit if I interacted with them daily.

[Ophelia]

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message news:UcbHE.21568$F54....@fx20.iad...

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Yes, I do have my shopping list on my phone. But it is ... just a list:))

[Ophelia]

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
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LOL that is funny:))

[Ophelia]

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message news:qcj5o9$eai$1...@dont-email.me...

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LOL no! Nor do I want it to:)))) Thanks:)

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 1:36:13 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Speaking as a motorist, a motorcyclist and bicyclist, I have to agree
> that a portion of motorists definitely need to behave a little better,
> but it is the pedestrians and bicyclists who have the highest
> percentages exhibiting bad behaviour.
>

In the last year we've gotten those electric scooters. Just this past week a
rider was killed through his own fault. He was riding on the sidewalk, which
is outlawed. He makes a sharp left off the sidewalk right out into traffic
without looking and gets pulverized by a Lyft driver. He lived about 2 days
before succumbing to his injuries. He was not a kid either, he was about 30
year old. It's not the first time these contraptions have been involved in
a serious accident. Every time it was the riders fault.

https://i.postimg.cc/Wz1XspMj/Electric-Scooter.jpg

>
> I live in an area that hosts bicycle races, so we are cursed with
> cycling clubs practicing. Stop signs don't even exist for those guys.
>

I think you see that everywhere. Running through red lights and stop signs
like they are invincible. What I find most annoying is the city has made
MANY bicycle only lanes throughout the city but you'll find 3 or more riding
abreast in the lanes meant for cars. Pedaling slowly so they can shoot the
breeze while holding up traffic.

[Bruce]

You ARE the female Dave Smith :)

[Bruce]

On Wed, 29 May 2019 05:16:14 +1000, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

No wait, to be fair, you don't waffle on until everybody's nodded off
or walked away.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 2:16:19 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> You ARE the female Dave Smith :)
>

You are the female Sheldon.

[dsi1]

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 3:09:32 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> Terry Coombs wrote:
> >
> > Ā "Smart appliances" are the ones that are WiFi connected - can you

> > link to your refrigerator via your cell phone while at the market to see
> > if you need milk ?
>

> LOL. that always just cracks me up. People now are so ultra
> dependent on cell phones.
>
> Take away cell phones now and this entire country will collapse
> in misery with much wailing and gnashing of teeth. :)

It's the evolution of the human species. Man and machines will be together forever or until the machines kill us all.

[dsi1]

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 3:53:37 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >

> > Not just that. I could turn on my oven from my cell phone. But
> > I refuse to give it my WiFi password.
>

> IMO, no one should be cooking anything (even in a crockpot)
> unless they are home to supervise. What if you never make it
> home? Accidents do happen.

I like to cooking stuff when I'm not around. Putting a roast in the oven overnight and waking up to a finished one is like magic. In this way can man master time.

[Bruce]

lol

[Cindy Hamilton]

I can put a roast in the oven at 2 pm and it's ready for dinner.
That's all the magic I need.

Cindy Hamilton

[dsi1]

That sounds like too much work.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

When I worked sometimes I would cook something in the crockpot either over-
night or during the day when I would be sleeping. But I would put it on the
back porch on the bistro table to do it's magic. The smell of something
yummy cooking in the house would wake me up and make me want to rip the lid
off the crockpot and bury my face in it. Ask me how I know something mouth
watering would wake me up. :-)

[graham]

Back in 1963, I needed to pass the equivalent of grade 12 in French (or
another modern language) to get into Uni. They dropped that requirement
the following year.

[Terry Coombs]

  Ours is a on piece of paper on the side of the fridge under a small
magnet . We keep a pencil close by <grin> . We usually use old envelopes
and tear off whatever list we have made until the envelope is gone .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

[Dave Smith]

On 2019-05-28 3:14 p.m., itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 1:36:13 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> Speaking as a motorist, a motorcyclist and bicyclist, I have to agree
>> that a portion of motorists definitely need to behave a little better,
>> but it is the pedestrians and bicyclists who have the highest
>> percentages exhibiting bad behaviour.
>>
> In the last year we've gotten those electric scooters. Just this past week a
> rider was killed through his own fault. He was riding on the sidewalk, which
> is outlawed. He makes a sharp left off the sidewalk right out into traffic
> without looking and gets pulverized by a Lyft driver. He lived about 2 days
> before succumbing to his injuries. He was not a kid either, he was about 30
> year old. It's not the first time these contraptions have been involved in
> a serious accident. Every time it was the riders fault.

It's unfortunate, but some people are the authors of their own
misfortune. We had a problem for a while with with long boarders. A
bunch of teens used to congregate by an intersection about a mile down
the road from out house. The road is wide enough for two way traffic
plus on road parking in both sides, and they seemed to think of it as
their personal skateboard park. They would be wheeling around, trying
stunts,falling, wandering out in front of traffic. I thought at the
time that it was just a matter of time before someone got killed. One
of them did.

> I think you see that everywhere. Running through red lights and stop signs
> like they are invincible. What I find most annoying is the city has made
> MANY bicycle only lanes throughout the city but you'll find 3 or more riding
> abreast in the lanes meant for cars. Pedaling slowly so they can shoot the
> breeze while holding up traffic.

They are as much a hazard to other bicyclists. I have had many near
collisions with other bikes on bike trails. The trails are wide enough
two, so on coming bikes can pass each other safely. I learned to hug the
centre of the trail because I had to many close encounters with pairs of
oncoming bikes. It is wide enough for two, not for three, and I am not
going to be forced off the trail. Stick to the centre and force them
into single file, then there is room for me to move over and pass safely.

[Dave Smith]

Hey. You should not repay a compliment with an insult. ;-)

[Terry Coombs]

  Lazy bum ! By the time my wife gets up tomorrow morning I'll have
bread dough rising in the pans . She works shitty shifts at Wm , doesn't
get off until 10 most nights . I let her sleep as late as she wants , if
it was noisy to mix dough I'd wait - Max (Doggus Maximus the Handsome
Hairball) gets me up usually around 5:45 - 6:00 (he figgers if it's
light he needs to be on guard duty) so I always time to kill before she
awakens .

[Bruce]

Insult? I thought Joan was flattering me.

[Dave Smith]

I had a head start on high school French. We started French in Gr. 7
where I went to elementary school. We moved part way through Gr.9 and in
the new school board is was not taught until high school, so I had a two
year head start.

I did everything I could to encourage my son to become bilingual. We
sent him on a French exchange program. He went to university in Montreal
and got a job working in French and did well enough to land a job
managing a brew pub with an all French staff. He took the civil service
language and landed a good job in a bilingual position and he gets a
decent bonus for being bilingual. Having mastered French, he is now
working on Spanish and has become quite fluent.

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
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LOL

[Cindy Hamilton]

What's the difference between having it ready at dinnertime
and ready at breakfast?

Thing goes in oven and pretty much cooks unattended until done.

Cindy Hamilton

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 5/28/2019 9:57 AM, Gary wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Did you know you can learn Spanish on the Internet? Talk about being
>> prepared, amigo!

>
> Back when I was in Jr.High and HS, we had a choice of foreign
> languages....French or Spanish. I chose sissy French but boy I
> sure wish I had picked Spanish now.
>

I had no choice. I was given Latin for two years. Spanish would have
been my choice and useful over the years. My grades were too good for
either French or Spanish.

[Ophelia]

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message news:qck3te$k9d$1...@dont-email.me...

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Heh, I did that for decades but now, I use my phone! I bought a new
phone recently, but the shopping list thingy doesn't work the same. I think
you might guess that I have gone back to my old phone ...

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 5/28/2019 10:58 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/28/2019 10:29 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

>> On 2019-05-28 9:09 a.m., Gary wrote:
>>
>>> LOL. that always just cracks me up. People now are so ultra
>>> dependent on cell phones.
>>>
>>> Take away cell phones now and this entire country will collapse
>>> in misery with much wailing and gnashing of teeth.  :)
>>

>> Now that the nice weather has returned I am seeing a lot of young
>> mothers out pushing strollers. They invariably are using one hand to
>> push the stroller and are using the other to hold the phone they are
>> fixated on.
>>
>>
> The state of New York is proposing legislation to make it illegal for
> pedestrians to stare at their cell phones while crossing the street.
>
> Jill

Let them look, just eliminate the driver liability. Knows as thinning
the herd.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 5/28/2019 11:08 AM, jmcquown wrote:

> On 5/28/2019 7:24 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>> On 5/28/2019 5:52 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>    I am not too sure what is meant by a 'smart appliance'.
>>>
>>>
>>

>>    "Smart appliances" are the ones that are WiFi connected - can you
>> link to your refrigerator via your cell phone while at the market to
>> see if you need milk ?
>>

> Yeah... because no one can simply look in the refrigerator before they
> go to the store to see if they need milk (or whatever). ;)
>
> Jill

So you check with your phone and see the milk container. It is opaque
whire so you don't see there are two ounces left and you need 2 cups.
You also want to look for relish but the milk container blocks the view.
Seems like a gimmick to me.

[dsi1]

You should synchronize your schedules. My understanding is that Walmart will hire crotchety old dudes to greet people at the door to remind them that pretty soon they'll be old and crotchety too so they better live it up and spend some dough before it's too late.

[dsi1]

I went to Japanese school when I was a tad, and took Spanish in intermediate school, then I took more Japanese when I went to college. The only thing I remember was that I took Japanese dos times and Spanish uno.

OTOH, the Spanish teacher sung "La Malaguena Salerosa" on the first day of class - perfectly, while playing the guitar. That's not an easy song to pull off. That pretty much made it all worthwhile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLBlns8wOBA

[graham]

On 2019-05-28 12:38 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-05-28 1:54 p.m., graham wrote:
>> On 2019-05-28 9:24 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> There is a lot of squawking from bicyclists about sharing the road
>>> and watching out for cyclists. No pun intended, but it is a two way
>>> street. They are their own worst enemies.  Most cyclists around here
>>> are adults,and they even though they are likely licensed drivers,
>>> they ride in complete oblivion  of the rules of the road. They ride
>>> in the middle of the road, sometimes 2 or 3 abreast and refuse to
>>> move over to allow cars to pass safely. They ignore traffic signs and
>>> lights, ride the wrong way on one way streets and on side walks.
>>> They might get more respect on the road if they showed a little
>>> respect themselves.
>>>
>>>
>> Motorists might get a little more respect if THEY behaved as well!

>
> Speaking as a motorist, a motorcyclist and bicyclist, I have to agree
> that a portion of motorists definitely need to behave a little better,
> but it is the pedestrians and bicyclists who have the highest
> percentages exhibiting bad behaviour.

Since I see multiple ticketable offences over a 2km strip of freeway
that I regularly take, 8 the other morning, motorists are equally bad.
This is all anecdotal and we can't argue without our prejudices showing
until a proper survey is done.

>
> I live in an area that hosts bicycle races, so we are cursed with
> cycling clubs practicing. Stop signs don't even exist for those guys.
>

And I live next to a favourite circuit for charity walkathons. Rules
don't apply to those pedestrians either.

[Ed Pawlowski]

I just us Samsung Notes for the list, not a dedicate program. It is
just a simple list
Bread
Milk
Eggs

[Bruce]

You need to bring a list for that? :)

[Dave Smith]

Yeah. I know that one too. A couple local schools have some kind of
charity walk once a year. There are hundreds of them, and they are all
over the road. They aren't even bright enough to stick to one lane of
the road, even though the road is still open. What is especially
annoying is to be driving along well below the speed limit and to have
their chaperones throwing hissy fits waving and screaming for me to slow
down, but saying nothing to the kids.

[graham]

The last really annoying one had adults walking all over the road and
when I complained? "We're doing it for the troops!" So fucking what!!

[Bruce]

The troops have been dodging bullets for a whole summer, so they can
misbehave any bloody way they want to. Didn't you know that?

[Ophelia]

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message news:eCjHE.16462$G34....@fx13.iad...

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What I like about mine, is that it keep a list of things I have bought.
It can be helpful (at my age *cough*) to look down the list and see if I
need anything on it:)) That is the problem with my new phone! I can
enter a list but it doesn't keep the previous ones. I am sure you have pity
for poor old me? Just to say it is not a lot of lists, just an errr list of
all <g>

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:23iree1l092bhkqnr...@4ax.com...

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Heh

[Ophelia]

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message news:qck4h1$o9t$1...@dont-email.me...

Snag

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Jolly good <g> Poppy (Doggus Poppymus gets me up too, but not so
early:))

[Ophelia]

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At least you had a choice! Our was Latin! Period!

[S Viemeister]

On 5/28/2019 9:53 PM, Ophelia wrote:

> Heh, I did that for decades but now, I use my phone! I bought a new
> phone recently, but the shopping list thingy doesn't work the same. I
> think you might guess that I have gone back to my old phone ...
>

I should ask my d-i-l what she's using now - she was using the same one
you have, and I know she's upgraded her phone.

[S Viemeister]

On 5/29/2019 8:33 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> At least you had a choice! Our was Latin! Period!
>

We had a choice of Latin, French, Spanish, Italian, German, and Russian.
I did Spanish, German, and Italian. I tried to take Russian at night
school, but in those days, day students were not allowed to take night
classes. Made no sense to me, but I had to drop the Russian classes.

[Ophelia]

"S Viemeister" wrote in message news:gl75bf...@mid.individual.net...

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Pah:(

[Ophelia]

"S Viemeister" wrote in message news:gl74ud...@mid.individual.net...

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Ask her if she can change her shopping list thingy so it still works
like the old one ... and if so...how please:))

[Gary]

Ophelia wrote:
> Ask her if she can change her shopping list thingy so it still works
> like the old one ... and if so...how please:))

Remember your childhood (before smart phones). Make a paper list.
It never fails to work perfectly.

I actually keep one in the van and also one in the house. Anytime
I think of something, it's added. Then I look at the weekly sale
ads before shopping.

Don't be a cheapskate miser like Sheldon either (writing on backs
of envelopes of all things lol). Paper lists are a good reason to
buy the small legal pads (5X8). Those pads are a renewable
resource and you don't have to relearn how to make a list after
getting a new phone.

:)

[Dave Smith]

Exactly "So fucking what". It is not an excuse to block traffic and
endanger themselves and others. If you call the school and complain
about the danger the kids are exposing themselves to you will likely get
the same lame attempt at justifying their bad behavior. I have worked
with a couple charities and am currently involved with a non profit. I
have never used that as excuse to do stupid things. On the contrary, we
have to try to set a good example.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 10:35:31 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> Remember your childhood (before smart phones). Make a paper list.
> It never fails to work perfectly.
>

https://i.postimg.cc/BvS0nn1V/Samuel-Jackson.jpg

>
> Don't be a cheapskate miser like Sheldon either (writing on backs
> of envelopes of all things lol). Paper lists are a good reason to
> buy the small legal pads (5X8). Those pads are a renewable
> resource and you don't have to relearn how to make a list after
> getting a new phone.
>
> :)
>

Nothing wrong with using the back of an envelope. At least he's using some-
again (recycling) that would normally just be tossed in the trash. But as
long as he has something to write his list(s) on I don't see the problem
whether it's an envelope or a pad.

[jmcquown]

Agreed. I do tend to use a small pad to write my lists but the back of
an envelope would work just as well. Problem is I don't get a lot of
snail mail so I don't have a ready supply of envelopes to re-purpose.

Jill

[Dave Smith]

My mother used to use old envelopes. I don't often bother with a
shopping list, but when I do, I tend to look for an old envelope to
write it on. Since most of the mail I get is junk it is a good way to
re-use and recycle.

[jmcquown]

On 5/28/2019 6:20 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, May 27, 2019 at 7:57:27 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Monday, May 27, 2019 at 4:58:42 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>> ...
>>>
>>> Didn't he once try to get his tenants to share in the cost of his land
>>> line? You know they had a good laugh at the crazy man as they went off
>>> to class with their cell phones in their hands.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Used to be, we ALL share ALL the Utility costs! And Phone USED TO BE a house Utility! UNTIL Cell Phone users got SELFISH and didn't want to pay for a house phone Utility gto save each a few bucks!!
>
> I figured it was something like that. Why should they pay for something
> they don't use?
>
>> Then I had to find myself a low cost phone option and I DID!
>> Basictalk.com over the Internet! About $12/mo for me exclusively as my Basictalk phone is on a hardwire Ethernet feed to my room!
>>
See? Now he admits to having one but he's hard-wired it so it's
basically a land line. LOL

>> Now in this house, we have no Phone Utility! And Internet was always rolled into the rent, so that's what I do too! I itemize the other utilities, gas, electric, garbage, water, sewer, etc. Big Bucks rentals roll everything into Rent, which is bullshit! Makes Rents Astronomical!! My house room rents are NOT astronomical! And we all share itemized Utils! Kind of Mini-Socialism!
>
> What difference does it make whether it's rolled into the rent or itemized?
> They still have to pay it.
>
There's no difference. Personally, I'd prefer to have a the itemization
so I can be sure I'm being charged my fair share. Then again I've never
rented a room in a house with a bunch of strangers.

> I can't remember renting an apartment where utilities were rolled into the
> rent. I always received a bill from the electric company, the gas company,
> and Ma Bell.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Oh, I can remember some 30 years ago seeing ads in the newspaper for
apartments (actual *apartments*, not a room for rent in someone's house)
where the water utility was included in the rent. Not electric or gas
and definitely not Ma Bell.

Jill

[graham]

And another thing!!
Just returned from a 40k bike ride. On our pathway system we share with
pedestrians but in high use areas the paths are twinned - one for peds
and one for cysclists.
Fucking runners and lazy walkers think it's ok to use the bike lane. Woe
betide if a cyclist strays onto the ped path.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 29 May 2019 14:19:09 -0600, graham <g.st...@shaw.ca> wrote:

>On 2019-05-29 10:13 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-05-28 10:14 p.m., graham wrote:
>>> On 2019-05-28 7:53 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>> Yeah. I know that one too. A couple local schools have some kind of
>>>> charity walk once a year.  There are hundreds of them, and they are
>>>> all over the road. They aren't even bright enough to stick to one
>>>> lane of the road, even though the road is still open.  What is
>>>> especially annoying is to be driving along  well below the speed
>>>> limit and to have their chaperones throwing hissy fits waving and
>>>> screaming for me to slow down, but saying nothing to the kids.
>>>
>>> The last really annoying one had adults walking all over the road and
>>> when I complained? "We're doing it for the troops!" So fucking what!!
>>
>> Exactly "So fucking what". It is not an excuse to block traffic and
>> endanger themselves and others.  If you call the school and complain
>> about the danger the kids are exposing themselves to you will likely get
>> the same lame attempt at justifying their bad behavior. I have worked
>> with a couple charities and am currently involved with a non profit.  I
>> have never used that as excuse to do stupid things. On the contrary,  we
>> have to try to set a good example.
>
>And another thing!!
>Just returned from a 40k bike ride. On our pathway system we share with
>pedestrians

That's stupid and asking for accidents.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 5/29/2019 4:19 PM, graham wrote:

> And another thing!!
> Just returned from a 40k bike ride. On our pathway system we share with
> pedestrians but in high use areas the paths are twinned - one for peds
> and one for cysclists.
> Fucking runners and lazy walkers think it's ok to use the bike lane. Woe
> betide if a cyclist strays onto the ped path.

It was just on the news here this morning. Florida has the highest
number of bicycle deaths in the country with 16% of them.

Common causes were dark clothing at nigh, disregard of traffic signs,
straying from bike lanes.

From the news:
A new study found Florida leads the country in bicycle deaths in 2017.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration data shows 783
cyclists were killed in the U.S. in 2017, including 125 in Florida.

In 2016, some 852 cyclists were killed in the U.S. That includes 138
people who died in Florida.

The figures found about 2 percent of deaths in crashes are bicyclists.

The data shows that although child bicyclist deaths have declined over
the years, deaths among bicyclists age 20 and older have tripled since 1975.

[Dave Smith]

Of course. The worst I see are the inline skaters. They swing back and
forth across the lanes. Then they have the ear buds in so they can
remain blissfully unaware of cyclists trying to pass.

We have a leash free dog park about two miles from here and it is
divided into two separate areas, one for big dogs and one for small
dogs. There have been a number of conflicts when people with big dogs
come into the small dog area. That is against the rules and there is
going to be a horrible disaster if a big dog runs into a little one or
gets into a fight with it. However, if there are no small dogs in the
park, the owners will bring their rodent sized mutts int the big dog
side so they will have someone to play with.

There have been times when some of us were in the small dog side because
of mud. When someone showed up with her small dogs we started moving
over to the other side, but she was bitching and moaning about us being
there. According to her, we should not be there even if there are no
small dogs using it.... as if it could make any difference to her if she
is not there.

[Dave Smith]

On 2019-05-29 5:28 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> It was just on the news here this morning.  Florida has the highest
> number of bicycle deaths in the country with 16% of them.
>
> Common causes were dark clothing at nigh, disregard of traffic signs,
> straying from bike lanes.
>
> From the news:
> A new study found Florida leads the country in bicycle deaths in 2017.
>
> The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration data shows 783
> cyclists were killed in the U.S. in 2017, including 125 in Florida.
>
> In 2016, some 852 cyclists were killed in the U.S. That includes 138
> people who died in Florida.
>
> The figures found about 2 percent of deaths in crashes are bicyclists.
>
> The data shows that although child bicyclist deaths have declined over
> the years, deaths among bicyclists age 20 and older have tripled since
> 1975.

I think the cyclist demographic has changed drastically over the years.
I rarely see kids on bikes. Most of the cyclists I see are at least 40.
When I go on the bike trail by the old canal the average age of the
cyclists is close to 60. That's part of what pisses me off the most
about them. They are all licensed drivers who are supposed to know the
rules of the road and are old enough to have been in elementary school
when we used to get the road safety lessons.

[penm...@aol.com]

Most junk mail is printed on one side so I use junk mail to print
crossword puzzles... waste not want not... and junk mail is typically
printed on very nice paper.

[Hank Rogers]

Popeye, I bet yoose mammy squealed with delight when yoose put yoose
big ole sailor whang up her! Just like yoose mother in law and just
like all the wimens yoose met and screwed in 80 years.

That ole mexican woman sho nuff got used, leftover jewish weeny.

But she waren't any spring chicken herself.

[Leonard Blaisdell]

In article <qck3te$k9d$1...@dont-email.me>, Terry Coombs

<snag...@msn.com> wrote:

>   Ours is a on piece of paper on the side of the fridge under a small
> magnet . We keep a pencil close by <grin> . We usually use old envelopes
> and tear off whatever list we have made until the envelope is gone .

Grocery lists are the only reason I buy post-it notes. I write small.

leo

[Leonard Blaisdell]

In article <w7DHE.27030$KA4....@fx05.iad>, Dave Smith

<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> I think the cyclist demographic has changed drastically over the years.
> I rarely see kids on bikes. Most of the cyclists I see are at least 40.
> When I go on the bike trail by the old canal the average age of the
> cyclists is close to 60. That's part of what pisses me off the most
> about them. They are all licensed drivers who are supposed to know the
> rules of the road and are old enough to have been in elementary school
> when we used to get the road safety lessons.

Cyclist demographics have indeed changed. As I saw more cyclists in my
town, I thought "Good for them". Then I noticed that a lot of the
cyclists were a bit sketchy

Spandex and a teardrop helmet -- cyclist
Clean clothes and wraparound sunglasses -- wannabe cyclist
Little kid -- nascent cyclist
Shabby clothes and a ratty backpack -- Meth and a stolen bicycle

Look for them. They're all over the place.

leo

[Bruce]

Is your country going to the dogs?

[S Viemeister]

I've just emailed her, but she's in a different time zone, and works
late, so she won't she it til much later.

[Ophelia]

"S Viemeister" wrote in message news:gl9jbv...@mid.individual.net...

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Thanks, Sheila:))