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Julie Bove
May 22, 2015, 10:53:48 PM5/22/15
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I tried the Haggen store again today for two reasons. I had popcorn to
donate to the food bank and they are one of the few stores with a donation
bin here, and they had a coupon for soda, making it the cheapest price in
the area. Alas that was about all that was cheap. I did get some margarine
because the particular kind that I eat was a good price. And some celery
because I needed it. Also some magazines. Nothing else. The prices were
just far too high.
I was in there around dinner time. Not many customers. I did see one woman
with a full cart of stuff but most like me were only buying a few things.
Will be interesting to see what happens with the prices when we get the two
new stores to this area, PCC and the lower priced, smaller, Whole Foods.
donate to the food bank and they are one of the few stores with a donation
bin here, and they had a coupon for soda, making it the cheapest price in
the area. Alas that was about all that was cheap. I did get some margarine
because the particular kind that I eat was a good price. And some celery
because I needed it. Also some magazines. Nothing else. The prices were
just far too high.
I was in there around dinner time. Not many customers. I did see one woman
with a full cart of stuff but most like me were only buying a few things.
Will be interesting to see what happens with the prices when we get the two
new stores to this area, PCC and the lower priced, smaller, Whole Foods.
Christopher Helms
May 23, 2015, 4:33:25 AM5/23/15
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Julie Bove
May 23, 2015, 5:08:14 AM5/23/15
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Christopher Helms
May 23, 2015, 9:32:23 AM5/23/15
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Cabrito del Bosque
May 23, 2015, 12:30:08 PM5/23/15
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As in the past 10 years or so?
You're one of the political groups' biggest whiners, don't pretend it's
any recent development.
Julie Bove
May 23, 2015, 7:28:14 PM5/23/15
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I went to the Walmart food store today. Spent almost $100 and only had
three bags. Not even full bags. Granted I did buy several kinds of meat.
I also saw my beloved chicken broth. Price did not go up 2 cents in the
store. Not yet anyway. They also seemed kind of low on produce and didn't
have some of what I wanted.
three bags. Not even full bags. Granted I did buy several kinds of meat.
I also saw my beloved chicken broth. Price did not go up 2 cents in the
store. Not yet anyway. They also seemed kind of low on produce and didn't
have some of what I wanted.
meda...@gmail.com
May 23, 2015, 7:54:52 PM5/23/15
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Cabrito del Bosque
May 23, 2015, 8:05:26 PM5/23/15
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Ed Pawlowski
May 23, 2015, 8:20:13 PM5/23/15
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On 5/23/2015 7:27 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I went to the Walmart food store today. Spent almost $100 and only had
> three bags. Not even full bags. Granted I did buy several kinds of
> meat.
Bought a whole rib eye at BJs and had it cut into thirteen 1" thick
>
> I went to the Walmart food store today. Spent almost $100 and only had
> three bags. Not even full bags. Granted I did buy several kinds of
> meat.
steaks. It would easily fit into one bag at $162.00
Julie Bove
May 23, 2015, 9:33:26 PM5/23/15
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2 pounds today. Also some thin cut steaks, a small amount of lunch meat and
two bags of beef jerky. That same jerky and lunch meat are available pretty
much anywhere in this area.
I don't know why people are so weird about stores. From one person I got,
"You bought linens at Big Lots? I would NEVER buy linens there!" Uh...
Why not? I went there specifically to get cheap stuff. Like throw blankets
to keep in the car trunk in the winter. Rugs to put by the cat box.
Or... "You buy food at Dollar Tree?" Yeah, they do sell some things that I
wouldn't buy. But they are the only place I know of in this area that has
the sugar free Italian Ice. And some of what they have is the same stuff
that you can get anywhere else. Sometimes for more money. Sometimes for
less.
Christopher Helms
May 23, 2015, 10:34:39 PM5/23/15
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Cheri
May 23, 2015, 11:01:34 PM5/23/15
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often for new things.
Cheri
Julie Bove
May 23, 2015, 11:35:43 PM5/23/15
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traffic and the way the parking lot sits.
Julie Bove
May 23, 2015, 11:36:35 PM5/23/15
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$30 would only buy maybe one meal here.
Cheri
May 24, 2015, 2:39:13 AM5/24/15
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>>> Or... "You buy food at Dollar Tree?" Yeah, they do sell some things
>>> that I wouldn't buy. But they are the only place I know of in this area
>>> that has the sugar free Italian Ice. And some of what they have is the
>>> same stuff that you can get anywhere else. Sometimes for more money.
>>> Sometimes for less.
>>
>> I love Dollar Tree. Fortunately, I live about a block from it so I check
>> it often for new things.
>
> I wish. The closest one to me is super hard to get to and from because of
> traffic and the way the parking lot sits.
I actually live a block or so from a pretty nice small mall, and my backyard
fence is a shared fence with Walgreen's. There used to be an independent
market in the mall which was really convenient, but the owners retired and
they built an InShape Gym there. There is also a Starbucks but I've never
bought anything there. I admit when they first started building this
peaceful area up, I was less than happy, but now that I'm older it suits me.
I usually walk to the stores around here if possible.
Cheri
>>> Or... "You buy food at Dollar Tree?" Yeah, they do sell some things
>>> that I wouldn't buy. But they are the only place I know of in this area
>>> that has the sugar free Italian Ice. And some of what they have is the
>>> same stuff that you can get anywhere else. Sometimes for more money.
>>> Sometimes for less.
>>
>> I love Dollar Tree. Fortunately, I live about a block from it so I check
>> it often for new things.
>
> I wish. The closest one to me is super hard to get to and from because of
> traffic and the way the parking lot sits.
fence is a shared fence with Walgreen's. There used to be an independent
market in the mall which was really convenient, but the owners retired and
they built an InShape Gym there. There is also a Starbucks but I've never
bought anything there. I admit when they first started building this
peaceful area up, I was less than happy, but now that I'm older it suits me.
I usually walk to the stores around here if possible.
Cheri
Julie Bove
May 24, 2015, 3:32:52 AM5/24/15
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This was still farm country when I first moved here. Several blocks to the
nearest businesses, one of which is a casino. There is at least a drugstore
now. But prior, only two convenience stores.
nearest businesses, one of which is a casino. There is at least a drugstore
now. But prior, only two convenience stores.
Gary
May 24, 2015, 7:10:43 AM5/24/15
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Cheri wrote:
>
> I love Dollar Tree. Fortunately, I live about a block from it so I check it
> often for new things.
I always loved all those stores too...Dollar Tree...Everything's A
>
> I love Dollar Tree. Fortunately, I live about a block from it so I check it
> often for new things.
Dollar. Fun to look through and every few days they have different
things. Mine is only about 2.5 miles away. I keep meaning to stop by
sometime but it's been years now.
I really need to go sometime. I'll probably be happy that I did. They
always have *something* worth paying a dollar for.
G.
Gary
May 24, 2015, 8:52:30 AM5/24/15
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Julie Bove wrote:
That's just for me though. There's no way you are spending $30 per
MEAL for your family of 3 that don't like most foods.
G.
>
> "Christopher Helms" wrote:
> > It's a lot easier to spend a hundred dollars on groceries than it used to
> > be. I try to stay under thirty dollars per trip and it seems to require a
> > little more creativity every month.
>
> $30 would only buy maybe one meal here.
No way, Julie. I also spend about $30 per week or a little bit more.
> "Christopher Helms" wrote:
> > It's a lot easier to spend a hundred dollars on groceries than it used to
> > be. I try to stay under thirty dollars per trip and it seems to require a
> > little more creativity every month.
>
> $30 would only buy maybe one meal here.
That's just for me though. There's no way you are spending $30 per
MEAL for your family of 3 that don't like most foods.
G.
Janet
May 24, 2015, 9:48:25 AM5/24/15
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In article <mjrgtq$fjd$1...@dont-email.me>, juli...@frontier.com says...
> $30 would only buy maybe one meal here.
I find that impossible to believe.
30 USD is roughtly 20 UK pounds.
UK food prices are far higher than the US, even so, for that sum I
could easily make at least three healthy nutritious delicious balanced
meals for two.
Even if I bought smkt READY MADE meals (NOT an economical way to eat)
, for that sum I could buy two dinners for two ( main course, side and
bottle of wine)
http://www.marksandspencer.com/s/food-and-wine/dine-in
Janet UK
> $30 would only buy maybe one meal here.
30 USD is roughtly 20 UK pounds.
UK food prices are far higher than the US, even so, for that sum I
could easily make at least three healthy nutritious delicious balanced
meals for two.
Even if I bought smkt READY MADE meals (NOT an economical way to eat)
, for that sum I could buy two dinners for two ( main course, side and
bottle of wine)
http://www.marksandspencer.com/s/food-and-wine/dine-in
Janet UK
Ed Pawlowski
May 24, 2015, 10:17:09 AM5/24/15
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On 5/24/2015 8:52 AM, Gary wrote:
far, it is much less. A $7 chicken and another two bucks for sides will
not only get the meal, but leftovers for lunch.
Maybe Julie is adding in the cost of a nice $20 bottle of wine to
accompany the meal.
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> $30 would only buy maybe one meal here.
>
> No way, Julie. I also spend about $30 per week or a little bit more.
> That's just for me though. There's no way you are spending $30 per
> MEAL for your family of 3 that don't like most foods.
>
> G.
>
On special occasions I've spent $30 or more for a meal, but for everyday
>>
>> $30 would only buy maybe one meal here.
>
> No way, Julie. I also spend about $30 per week or a little bit more.
> That's just for me though. There's no way you are spending $30 per
> MEAL for your family of 3 that don't like most foods.
>
> G.
>
far, it is much less. A $7 chicken and another two bucks for sides will
not only get the meal, but leftovers for lunch.
Maybe Julie is adding in the cost of a nice $20 bottle of wine to
accompany the meal.
Brooklyn1
May 24, 2015, 12:37:39 PM5/24/15
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wouldn't eat. I think the people who claim they can eat all week on
$30 don't eat very well, or they're lousy at math, or they lie. Maybe
some people don't include condiments, snacks, fresh fruit and
vegetables, beverages, and they live on $1/lb tube steak... yes there
are $1/lb 'meat' tube steaks in the flyer this week, one can only
imagine. Top round beef (not a pricey cut) runs minimally $5/lb
nowadays, feeding two adults a four pound roast lasts three days here,
plus there are salads, sides, snacks, beverages, etc. A 4 pound roast
barely yields two pounds of edible meat, I don't consider that a lot
for six adult meals... and that's just dinner, what about food for th
erest of the day? I think those with small grocery bills don't do
much cooking, they eat out and do take out a lot. I know people who
don't even have coffee in their house, not even a coffee pot, they buy
lots of coffee out but don't include that in their grocery bill, not
the donuts either... they can drop $30 a week at Dunkin Donuts easy,
that's $30 per person. I shop often, I've yet to see anyone with a
weeks worth of groceries in their cart for $30, what do your think a
pound of bacon, a dozen eggs, a loaf of bread, a jar of grape jelly, a
jar of peanut butter, a gallon of milk, and three pounds of apples
costs, about $30 and that's not eating very well. The way many here
drool over bacon, fresh seafood, real maple syrup, premium ice cream,
polish butcher kielbasa, stinkin' lamb, ribeyes and the like no way
can they get by on less than $30 a day. I won't mention how many are
always boasting about their $30+ bottles of wine... I buy Crystal
Palace vodka and diet Coke and still my booze bill runs $20/wk. Only
way people can grocerey shop for $30/wk is they ain't mentioning their
food stamps.
cshenk
May 24, 2015, 3:10:04 PM5/24/15
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Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:
I like the canned tomatoes at ours. Red-gold brand and good stuff
while also about as low in sodium as they come.
Carol
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while also about as low in sodium as they come.
Carol
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cshenk
May 24, 2015, 3:21:35 PM5/24/15
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Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
WOW. I run an average of 300$ a month for a family of 3. I won't say
we don't have a single meal that costs 30$ (10$ each) but it's rare.
Example, I have 45cents worth of wheat and stuff making bread. That
will make 2 lbs or 14 thick slices. Basically cut them in half for 14
PB&J types or whatever else.
Julie, you can beat 30$ a meal even with takeout.
Whats up here?
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we don't have a single meal that costs 30$ (10$ each) but it's rare.
Example, I have 45cents worth of wheat and stuff making bread. That
will make 2 lbs or 14 thick slices. Basically cut them in half for 14
PB&J types or whatever else.
Julie, you can beat 30$ a meal even with takeout.
Whats up here?
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cshenk
May 24, 2015, 3:22:59 PM5/24/15
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Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:
True Gary. I spend a little less than you per person but with 3 of us,
we can make more use of sales and I am in what is considered a fairly
cheaper food area.
Carol
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we can make more use of sales and I am in what is considered a fairly
cheaper food area.
Carol
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cshenk
May 24, 2015, 4:08:44 PM5/24/15
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Brooklyn1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
Oh Sheldon lay off.
Most people who use the roughly 30$ a week rule are buying staples and
cooking them for real.
The most expensive bread i know how to make is a 7 seed rye with
buttermilk. It costs 1.47 for a 2 lb loaf (translation, 14 healthy man
sized rolls or 18 more regular ones). Now lets assume the biggr ones
your eyes always go for ok? 1.47/3=.49 cents for the whole lot per
person. It is 10 cents a roll with 4 rolls each and 2 left over. My
regular bread costs 75cents for 5 cents a day of bread each. My cheap
bread costs 45cents. Same yield.
Thats just a sample.
Shift your eating and get rid of a lb of bacon a week (what a financial
waste that one is) and it's more like 1 egg a day at most. I am sure
that offends your soul but some of us have to eat more veggies to keep
the cholestrol down so instead are getting carrots, squash, snap beans,
daikon, cabbage, and fresh greens.
We do indeed spend wisely and fit the 30$ range per person. I hit 100$
a month per person usually and yes, we have steak, shrimp, and other
goodies.
The average meal here per person is about 2$ for dinner, 1$ for lunch
and change for breakfast.
That you can't do it, isnt a reason to abuse those who can and do.
Carol
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Most people who use the roughly 30$ a week rule are buying staples and
cooking them for real.
The most expensive bread i know how to make is a 7 seed rye with
buttermilk. It costs 1.47 for a 2 lb loaf (translation, 14 healthy man
sized rolls or 18 more regular ones). Now lets assume the biggr ones
your eyes always go for ok? 1.47/3=.49 cents for the whole lot per
person. It is 10 cents a roll with 4 rolls each and 2 left over. My
regular bread costs 75cents for 5 cents a day of bread each. My cheap
bread costs 45cents. Same yield.
Thats just a sample.
Shift your eating and get rid of a lb of bacon a week (what a financial
waste that one is) and it's more like 1 egg a day at most. I am sure
that offends your soul but some of us have to eat more veggies to keep
the cholestrol down so instead are getting carrots, squash, snap beans,
daikon, cabbage, and fresh greens.
We do indeed spend wisely and fit the 30$ range per person. I hit 100$
a month per person usually and yes, we have steak, shrimp, and other
goodies.
The average meal here per person is about 2$ for dinner, 1$ for lunch
and change for breakfast.
That you can't do it, isnt a reason to abuse those who can and do.
Carol
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cshenk
May 24, 2015, 4:35:21 PM5/24/15
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Janet wrote in rec.food.cooking:
Yup Janet. Though Julie *hopefully* meant to feed 3 on that 30$,
others took it as one person which is ridiculous. For your 20 UK lbs,
I feed a person for a week here for all 3 meals. Some weeks a little
more, some a little less but that is the average. Yes, it's cheaper
here but i also may be selecting less expensive things with more prep
time on my end making it work. Thats ok. All 3 of us cook (though
Charlotte understandably is still learning some aspects, she's a fine
baker in her own right now).
Meantime I use a fair amount of freecycle (freegle where you are) for
other savings on appliances and such. I pass on what didnt work for me
and get what i need if another has it.
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others took it as one person which is ridiculous. For your 20 UK lbs,
I feed a person for a week here for all 3 meals. Some weeks a little
more, some a little less but that is the average. Yes, it's cheaper
here but i also may be selecting less expensive things with more prep
time on my end making it work. Thats ok. All 3 of us cook (though
Charlotte understandably is still learning some aspects, she's a fine
baker in her own right now).
Meantime I use a fair amount of freecycle (freegle where you are) for
other savings on appliances and such. I pass on what didnt work for me
and get what i need if another has it.
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Janet B
May 24, 2015, 5:22:27 PM5/24/15
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Janet US
cshenk
May 24, 2015, 5:37:08 PM5/24/15
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The Other Guy wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 15:08:41 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > We do indeed spend wisely and fit the 30$ range per person. I hit
> > 100$ a month per person usually and yes, we have steak, shrimp, and
> > other goodies.
>
> The cheapest steak here is $6 a pound, and an edible steak is
> substantially more. I don't eat shrimp so can't say on that,
> but a loaf of decent (NOT fancy) bread is $5 when not on sale.
> Milk is $6 a half gallon. Potatoes were on sale today at 5
> pounds for $5. Green seedless grapes were $3 a pound, and
> tomatoes were $2.50 a pound on sale, usually $3 recently.
Learn to cook. You can make that 5$ bread for 1.47 or a basic simple
one for as little as 45cents. It takes 5 minutes of your time to do it
with a 35$ breadmachine that lasts for 4-5 years of use 3 times a week.
You dont need to eat a huge 14oz steak every night. Learn to make side
dishes. Dunno why your milk is double the price at ours but it's 4$
gallon here. I dont know many adults who drink enough of it to get
gallon sizes.
What the heck on your potato prices? Its 2.97 for 8lbs here. Maybe
look around a bit better?
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> On Sun, 24 May 2015 15:08:41 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > We do indeed spend wisely and fit the 30$ range per person. I hit
> > 100$ a month per person usually and yes, we have steak, shrimp, and
> > other goodies.
>
> substantially more. I don't eat shrimp so can't say on that,
> but a loaf of decent (NOT fancy) bread is $5 when not on sale.
> Milk is $6 a half gallon. Potatoes were on sale today at 5
> pounds for $5. Green seedless grapes were $3 a pound, and
> tomatoes were $2.50 a pound on sale, usually $3 recently.
Learn to cook. You can make that 5$ bread for 1.47 or a basic simple
one for as little as 45cents. It takes 5 minutes of your time to do it
with a 35$ breadmachine that lasts for 4-5 years of use 3 times a week.
You dont need to eat a huge 14oz steak every night. Learn to make side
dishes. Dunno why your milk is double the price at ours but it's 4$
gallon here. I dont know many adults who drink enough of it to get
gallon sizes.
What the heck on your potato prices? Its 2.97 for 8lbs here. Maybe
look around a bit better?
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Julie Bove
May 24, 2015, 6:19:44 PM5/24/15
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at some place akin to a Denny's would be around $30, not including tip.
Julie Bove
May 24, 2015, 6:22:38 PM5/24/15
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I spent about $30 a week on just myself back in the 1980's. And I dined out
a lot. Groceries are not cheap here! I probably spend about $300 a week,
no counting restaurant meals but that's hard to tell because some things I
buy like flour, black pepper or olive oil would certainly last far more than
a week. I also stock up on canned things, and I buy paper products,
cleaning supplies, magazines, books, cat things and some cosmetics. So not
all food.
a lot. Groceries are not cheap here! I probably spend about $300 a week,
no counting restaurant meals but that's hard to tell because some things I
buy like flour, black pepper or olive oil would certainly last far more than
a week. I also stock up on canned things, and I buy paper products,
cleaning supplies, magazines, books, cat things and some cosmetics. So not
all food.
Julie Bove
May 24, 2015, 6:28:01 PM5/24/15
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I seriously doubt that. Or they are mostly eating beans and rice. The
steak I bought was just over $10 and that's a meal for two. I also bought
two packages of beef jerky. That's more than $30 right there! What in the
world could a person be eating if they claim to pay so little?
and that was over $3.00. In terms of flour would be about the equivalent to
two loaves of bread.
>
> Thats just a sample.
>
> Shift your eating and get rid of a lb of bacon a week (what a financial
> waste that one is) and it's more like 1 egg a day at most. I am sure
> that offends your soul but some of us have to eat more veggies to keep
> the cholestrol down so instead are getting carrots, squash, snap beans,
> daikon, cabbage, and fresh greens.
Who eats a pound of bacon a week?
at all.
people don't make their own bread. Many people haven't got the time to do
it. I do sometimes but it takes me all night to do it. I couldn't do that
very often if I were working. And no, I won't use a bread machine. I had
one and hated it.
steak I bought was just over $10 and that's a meal for two. I also bought
two packages of beef jerky. That's more than $30 right there! What in the
world could a person be eating if they claim to pay so little?
>
> The most expensive bread i know how to make is a 7 seed rye with
> buttermilk. It costs 1.47 for a 2 lb loaf (translation, 14 healthy man
> sized rolls or 18 more regular ones). Now lets assume the biggr ones
> your eyes always go for ok? 1.47/3=.49 cents for the whole lot per
> person. It is 10 cents a roll with 4 rolls each and 2 left over. My
> regular bread costs 75cents for 5 cents a day of bread each. My cheap
> bread costs 45cents. Same yield.
Pretty sure I could not make it that cheaply. I just made two pizza crusts
> The most expensive bread i know how to make is a 7 seed rye with
> buttermilk. It costs 1.47 for a 2 lb loaf (translation, 14 healthy man
> sized rolls or 18 more regular ones). Now lets assume the biggr ones
> your eyes always go for ok? 1.47/3=.49 cents for the whole lot per
> person. It is 10 cents a roll with 4 rolls each and 2 left over. My
> regular bread costs 75cents for 5 cents a day of bread each. My cheap
> bread costs 45cents. Same yield.
and that was over $3.00. In terms of flour would be about the equivalent to
two loaves of bread.
>
> Thats just a sample.
>
> Shift your eating and get rid of a lb of bacon a week (what a financial
> waste that one is) and it's more like 1 egg a day at most. I am sure
> that offends your soul but some of us have to eat more veggies to keep
> the cholestrol down so instead are getting carrots, squash, snap beans,
> daikon, cabbage, and fresh greens.
>
> We do indeed spend wisely and fit the 30$ range per person. I hit 100$
> a month per person usually and yes, we have steak, shrimp, and other
> goodies.
Then food must be insanely cheap where you live or you don't eat much food
> We do indeed spend wisely and fit the 30$ range per person. I hit 100$
> a month per person usually and yes, we have steak, shrimp, and other
> goodies.
at all.
>
> The average meal here per person is about 2$ for dinner, 1$ for lunch
> and change for breakfast.
>
> That you can't do it, isnt a reason to abuse those who can and do.
Most of us can't do it because food just costs more where we are. And most
> The average meal here per person is about 2$ for dinner, 1$ for lunch
> and change for breakfast.
>
> That you can't do it, isnt a reason to abuse those who can and do.
people don't make their own bread. Many people haven't got the time to do
it. I do sometimes but it takes me all night to do it. I couldn't do that
very often if I were working. And no, I won't use a bread machine. I had
one and hated it.
Julie Bove
May 24, 2015, 6:30:18 PM5/24/15
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>>We do indeed spend wisely and fit the 30$ range per person. I hit 100$
>>a month per person usually and yes, we have steak, shrimp, and other
>>goodies.
>
>>a month per person usually and yes, we have steak, shrimp, and other
>>goodies.
>
> The cheapest steak here is $6 a pound, and an edible steak is
> substantially more. I don't eat shrimp so can't say on that,
> but a loaf of decent (NOT fancy) bread is $5 when not on sale.
> Milk is $6 a half gallon. Potatoes were on sale today at 5
> pounds for $5. Green seedless grapes were $3 a pound, and
> tomatoes were $2.50 a pound on sale, usually $3 recently.
I have to go buy more bread. Woke up really wanting toast but the bread had
> substantially more. I don't eat shrimp so can't say on that,
> but a loaf of decent (NOT fancy) bread is $5 when not on sale.
> Milk is $6 a half gallon. Potatoes were on sale today at 5
> pounds for $5. Green seedless grapes were $3 a pound, and
> tomatoes were $2.50 a pound on sale, usually $3 recently.
green spots on it. Sticker on it was for today. The loaves I buy are
small. One usually lasts a week if I time it right when I buy it.
Sometimes I buy one and it is only good for three days. No preservatives in
this bread. Costs $5.49 to $5.99 depending on where I buy it. I did buy
some other kind at Walmart yesterday for 98 cents. I can't eat it though.
Julie Bove
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Holy crap! Potatoes aren't nearly that cheap there. I don't think I have
ever seen an 8 pound bag either.
ever seen an 8 pound bag either.
Julie Bove
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I think you would be very hard pressed to feed one person here for $30 a
week. You could do it if you ate beans, the cheapest rice you could find
and perhaps a little produce. Probably no meat. When I spent that much for
myself, I never ate meat.
week. You could do it if you ate beans, the cheapest rice you could find
and perhaps a little produce. Probably no meat. When I spent that much for
myself, I never ate meat.
Jeßus
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<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>Most of us can't do it because food just costs more where we are. And most
>people don't make their own bread. Many people haven't got the time to do
>it.
Of course they have the time to do it, they just don't /want/ to do
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>Most of us can't do it because food just costs more where we are. And most
>people don't make their own bread. Many people haven't got the time to do
>it.
it.
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cshenk
May 24, 2015, 8:12:13 PM5/24/15
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cshenk
May 24, 2015, 8:30:46 PM5/24/15
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The Other Guy wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 16:37:05 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > The Other Guy wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> On Sun, 24 May 2015 15:08:41 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net>
> wrote: >>
> >> > We do indeed spend wisely and fit the 30$ range per person. I
> hit >> > 100$ a month per person usually and yes, we have steak,
> shrimp, and >> > other goodies.
> >>
> >> The cheapest steak here is $6 a pound, and an edible steak is
> >> substantially more. I don't eat shrimp so can't say on that,
> >> but a loaf of decent (NOT fancy) bread is $5 when not on sale.
> >> Milk is $6 a half gallon. Potatoes were on sale today at 5
> >> pounds for $5. Green seedless grapes were $3 a pound, and
> >> tomatoes were $2.50 a pound on sale, usually $3 recently.
> >
> > Learn to cook. You can make that 5$ bread for 1.47 or a basic
> > simple one for as little as 45cents. It takes 5 minutes of your
> > time to do it with a 35$ breadmachine that lasts for 4-5 years of
> > use 3 times a week.
>
> I don't HAVE a bread machine, I don't have ROOM for a bread machine,
>
> > The Other Guy wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> On Sun, 24 May 2015 15:08:41 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net>
> wrote: >>
> >> > We do indeed spend wisely and fit the 30$ range per person. I
> hit >> > 100$ a month per person usually and yes, we have steak,
> shrimp, and >> > other goodies.
> >>
> >> The cheapest steak here is $6 a pound, and an edible steak is
> >> substantially more. I don't eat shrimp so can't say on that,
> >> but a loaf of decent (NOT fancy) bread is $5 when not on sale.
> >> Milk is $6 a half gallon. Potatoes were on sale today at 5
> >> pounds for $5. Green seedless grapes were $3 a pound, and
> >> tomatoes were $2.50 a pound on sale, usually $3 recently.
> >
> > Learn to cook. You can make that 5$ bread for 1.47 or a basic
> > simple one for as little as 45cents. It takes 5 minutes of your
> > time to do it with a 35$ breadmachine that lasts for 4-5 years of
> > use 3 times a week.
>
> and I don't WANT to make my own bread. Plus it takes more than just
> flour to make bread, and all the ingredients need to be stored
> somewhere.
Then quit bitching if you can't spring to a bread machine and 5 minutes
of your time once a week. Yes it takes salt, water, yeast and a little
oil in most recipes. Add 3cents if you wnat a fancy oil. The yeast
and salt cost were added to the 45cents already.
> > You dont need to eat a huge 14oz steak every night.
>
> a pound when on sale (80%), or I go with chicken or pork. And
> I eat plenty of sides, ALL of which are up substantially in price
> over the last 2 years.
Cut the portion to reasonable levels then. You don't need 1lb a night
for just yourself.
>
> > Dunno why your milk is double the price at ours but it's 4$
> > gallon here.
>
> due to it's longer shelf life, and I still can't usually drink
> a half gallon before it starts to go bad, even with it mostly
> going to my cat.
There's another thing wrong. Organic doesnt last longer and you are
getting a larger container than you can use at organic markups. Cut to
a smaller size and dump the fancy 'organic' since it's apt to not
really be organic anyways.
Quit wasting food by getting larger than you can use and know it's
larger than you can use.
> > What the heck on your potato prices? Its 2.97 for 8lbs here. Maybe
> > look around a bit better?
>
> ago.
I suggest not looking at the pretty ones on the eye level and look for
the bags that have potatoes just as nice inside. Shopping 101. The mot
espensive version of any product will be at eye level or in open bins.
cshenk
May 24, 2015, 8:33:57 PM5/24/15
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>
Fresh made doesn't last real long either outside the fridge but we make
it in amounts we can use up andif we lose a roll or so, it's 5 cents
worth of bread.
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Julie Bove
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Someone said "take out". That to me is the same as eating out. You're just
taking the food home. Not eating it there.
taking the food home. Not eating it there.
cshenk
May 24, 2015, 9:02:42 PM5/24/15
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Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>
chicken soup made from a real chicken in a crock pot, pulled southern
BBQ pork, real bread, the list is endless.
> > The most expensive bread i know how to make is a 7 seed rye with
> > buttermilk. It costs 1.47 for a 2 lb loaf (translation, 14 healthy
> > man sized rolls or 18 more regular ones). Now lets assume the
> > biggr ones your eyes always go for ok? 1.47/3=.49 cents for the
> > whole lot per person. It is 10 cents a roll with 4 rolls each and
> > 2 left over. My regular bread costs 75cents for 5 cents a day of
> > bread each. My cheap bread costs 45cents. Same yield.
>
> Pretty sure I could not make it that cheaply. I just made two pizza
> crusts and that was over $3.00. In terms of flour would be about the
> equivalent to two loaves of bread.
make 2 pizza crusts, the same as to make a 2lb loaf of bread.
A 5lb bag of flour has a nominal 20 cups of flour so if you are simple
enough to use the expensive bread flour at non-sale prices for pizza,
yes, you might waste 3$ in flour. Normally folks get the cheap stuff
for what works out as 37cents for 4 cups for a pizza.
> > Thats just a sample.
And an example of where you didn't use the right flour if you spend 3$
on flour instead of roughly 37cents for 4 cups. You don't need fancy
flour for pizza and in fact, it works better with the cheaper types.
> >
> > Shift your eating and get rid of a lb of bacon a week (what a
> > financial waste that one is) and it's more like 1 egg a day at
> > most. I am sure that offends your soul but some of us have to eat
> > more veggies to keep the cholestrol down so instead are getting
> > carrots, squash, snap beans, daikon, cabbage, and fresh greens.
>
> Who eats a pound of bacon a week?
> >
> > We do indeed spend wisely and fit the 30$ range per person. I hit
> > 100$ a month per person usually and yes, we have steak, shrimp, and
> > other goodies.
>
> Then food must be insanely cheap where you live or you don't eat much
> food at all.
difference is we actually COOK. From real live basic veggies, fruits,
pastas, rices and meats. WE also spend a portion of the weekend (about
1 hour) every other week or 2 to run the grinder so our ground beef
costs generally 3$lb and the ground pork would run about 1.27lb. This
isnt a huge time effort but something done every 2-3 weeks.
> >
> > The average meal here per person is about 2$ for dinner, 1$ for
> > lunch and change for breakfast.
> >
> > That you can't do it, isnt a reason to abuse those who can and do.
>
> Most of us can't do it because food just costs more where we are.
> And most people don't make their own bread. Many people haven't got
> the time to do it. I do sometimes but it takes me all night to do
> it. I couldn't do that very often if I were working. And no, I
> won't use a bread machine. I had one and hated it.
dont abuse those who take 5 minutes out 2-3 times a week to make bread
with a machine. As to food costng more, no. I aint buying that. You
are making poor choices compared in cost to mine. It's NOT that
different. You might run a little higher, but not the higher levels you
list.
Sorry Julie, I am not a Julie basher but you've stepped too far out and
you either really don't understand economically shopping or you are
making this stuff up. While i suspect the former, others will accuse
you of the later.
Carol
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Nor does it mean that I don't. I am no cheapskate! I do get the Rosarita
refried beans for 80 cents a can. That price probably beats dried beans
since I am not having to add seasonings or cook them. But I also buy
expensive olives sometimes, just because I want them. And I am grateful
that I can. There was a time when I couldn't buy any kind of olives!
Tonight's dinner is pizza and salad. Yes, I did buy a bag of mixed greens
just because that is likely the only salad we'll eat this week. It was just
enough for three. I added toppings based on what people like. Black
olives, plum tomatoes, celery, red pepper, red onion. Would have been
cucumber but the last little piece had gone mushy.
Whole wheat pizza crust made from scratch. I did purchase the sauce. Yes,
I know I could have made it but stuff came up, and husband wanted to eat
right away so I just bought sauce when I went to the store. Expensive
sauce. Not the most expensive I have bought but it was $4.99 for the two
pizzas. Theirs has a combination of Western Family (cheap) mozzarella and a
small amount of leftover medium priced, mixed Italian cheeses and some very
expensive, uncured pepperoni. Mine has Daiya (dairy free) cheese, red
onion, fresh tomato slices and pine nuts.
I looked at potato prices. The only one I remember was for the bulk russets
at 98 cents per pound. I did not buy any. I did buy black grapes and
cherries. Cherries were $9.98 per pound. I only bought them because
husband ripped through the last bag that I got in no time flat. I prefer to
buy food that they will eat and not have to throw things out.
I do like to save money on many things. However there are other things where
I prefer to buy really good stuff. One of those things is meat. I don't
see too much difference with canned beans but when it comes to the refried,
there were a few I did not like at all because they were runny. I don't see
much difference with most canned vegetables. Tomatoes can be an exception.
I do think when it comes to some tomato products, some are superior but
that's not always what I buy.
refried beans for 80 cents a can. That price probably beats dried beans
since I am not having to add seasonings or cook them. But I also buy
expensive olives sometimes, just because I want them. And I am grateful
that I can. There was a time when I couldn't buy any kind of olives!
Tonight's dinner is pizza and salad. Yes, I did buy a bag of mixed greens
just because that is likely the only salad we'll eat this week. It was just
enough for three. I added toppings based on what people like. Black
olives, plum tomatoes, celery, red pepper, red onion. Would have been
cucumber but the last little piece had gone mushy.
Whole wheat pizza crust made from scratch. I did purchase the sauce. Yes,
I know I could have made it but stuff came up, and husband wanted to eat
right away so I just bought sauce when I went to the store. Expensive
sauce. Not the most expensive I have bought but it was $4.99 for the two
pizzas. Theirs has a combination of Western Family (cheap) mozzarella and a
small amount of leftover medium priced, mixed Italian cheeses and some very
expensive, uncured pepperoni. Mine has Daiya (dairy free) cheese, red
onion, fresh tomato slices and pine nuts.
I looked at potato prices. The only one I remember was for the bulk russets
at 98 cents per pound. I did not buy any. I did buy black grapes and
cherries. Cherries were $9.98 per pound. I only bought them because
husband ripped through the last bag that I got in no time flat. I prefer to
buy food that they will eat and not have to throw things out.
I do like to save money on many things. However there are other things where
I prefer to buy really good stuff. One of those things is meat. I don't
see too much difference with canned beans but when it comes to the refried,
there were a few I did not like at all because they were runny. I don't see
much difference with most canned vegetables. Tomatoes can be an exception.
I do think when it comes to some tomato products, some are superior but
that's not always what I buy.
Julie Bove
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I'm not the one eating the cheap bread. The person who will be eating it
can't tell the difference between it and expensive stuff so no matter to me.
can't tell the difference between it and expensive stuff so no matter to me.
Julie Bove
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don't have the machine and... People who quote prices like that likely
aren't factoring in the price of electricity or water and soap to clean the
dishes and pans.
Milk is far cheaper by the gallon here but we would never consume a gallon
of milk before it goes bad. I try to buy the stuff from Dollar Tree when
they have it. They don't always have it.
>
> When I was younger, I would drink a half gallon or more a day;
> NOT any longer.
"Whoa! Who's the rich person?" It had never occurred to me to check the
price of potatoes because they were cheap here at the time. They were not
cheap at all on Cape Cod. Why? Not grown locally.
>>The Other Guy wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 15:08:41 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > We do indeed spend wisely and fit the 30$ range per person. I hit
>>> > 100$ a month per person usually and yes, we have steak, shrimp, and
>>> > other goodies.
>>>
>>> The cheapest steak here is $6 a pound, and an edible steak is
>>> substantially more. I don't eat shrimp so can't say on that,
>>> but a loaf of decent (NOT fancy) bread is $5 when not on sale.
>>> Milk is $6 a half gallon. Potatoes were on sale today at 5
>>> pounds for $5. Green seedless grapes were $3 a pound, and
>>> tomatoes were $2.50 a pound on sale, usually $3 recently.
>>
>>Learn to cook. You can make that 5$ bread for 1.47 or a basic simple
>>one for as little as 45cents. It takes 5 minutes of your time to do it
>>with a 35$ breadmachine that lasts for 4-5 years of use 3 times a week.
>
>>
>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 15:08:41 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > We do indeed spend wisely and fit the 30$ range per person. I hit
>>> > 100$ a month per person usually and yes, we have steak, shrimp, and
>>> > other goodies.
>>>
>>> The cheapest steak here is $6 a pound, and an edible steak is
>>> substantially more. I don't eat shrimp so can't say on that,
>>> but a loaf of decent (NOT fancy) bread is $5 when not on sale.
>>> Milk is $6 a half gallon. Potatoes were on sale today at 5
>>> pounds for $5. Green seedless grapes were $3 a pound, and
>>> tomatoes were $2.50 a pound on sale, usually $3 recently.
>>
>>Learn to cook. You can make that 5$ bread for 1.47 or a basic simple
>>one for as little as 45cents. It takes 5 minutes of your time to do it
>>with a 35$ breadmachine that lasts for 4-5 years of use 3 times a week.
>
> I don't HAVE a bread machine, I don't have ROOM for a bread machine,
> and I don't WANT to make my own bread. Plus it takes more than just
> flour to make bread, and all the ingredients need to be stored somewhere.
Not only that but time is money. Takes a long time to make bread if you
> and I don't WANT to make my own bread. Plus it takes more than just
> flour to make bread, and all the ingredients need to be stored somewhere.
don't have the machine and... People who quote prices like that likely
aren't factoring in the price of electricity or water and soap to clean the
dishes and pans.
>
>>You dont need to eat a huge 14oz steak every night.
>
>>You dont need to eat a huge 14oz steak every night.
>
> I don't eat steak at all, can't afford it. Decent ground beef is $4
> a pound when on sale (80%), or I go with chicken or pork. And
> I eat plenty of sides, ALL of which are up substantially in price
> over the last 2 years.
>
> a pound when on sale (80%), or I go with chicken or pork. And
> I eat plenty of sides, ALL of which are up substantially in price
> over the last 2 years.
>
>>Dunno why your milk is double the price at ours but it's 4$
>>gallon here.
>
>>gallon here.
>
> Welcome to California. I buy store brand organic milk
> due to it's longer shelf life, and I still can't usually drink
> a half gallon before it starts to go bad, even with it mostly
> going to my cat.
> due to it's longer shelf life, and I still can't usually drink
> a half gallon before it starts to go bad, even with it mostly
Milk is far cheaper by the gallon here but we would never consume a gallon
of milk before it goes bad. I try to buy the stuff from Dollar Tree when
they have it. They don't always have it.
>
> When I was younger, I would drink a half gallon or more a day;
> NOT any longer.
>
>>What the heck on your potato prices? Its 2.97 for 8lbs here. Maybe
>>look around a bit better?
>
>>What the heck on your potato prices? Its 2.97 for 8lbs here. Maybe
>>look around a bit better?
>
> THAT was the price today, up almost double what it was a few months ago.
I'll never forget bringing the JoJos to a potluck and having someone say,
"Whoa! Who's the rich person?" It had never occurred to me to check the
price of potatoes because they were cheap here at the time. They were not
cheap at all on Cape Cod. Why? Not grown locally.
Julie Bove
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You sound like my husband. He will only buy whatever the amount is to allow
him to get in the 12 (or whatever the amount is) items for less line.
him to get in the 12 (or whatever the amount is) items for less line.
cshenk
May 24, 2015, 9:18:01 PM5/24/15
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Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>
> "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:hJCdnUGtyZ-aq__I...@giganews.com...
> > Janet wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > In article <mjrgtq$fjd$1...@dont-email.me>, juli...@frontier.com
> > > says...
> > >
> > >
> >>> $30 would only buy maybe one meal here.
> > >
> >> I find that impossible to believe.
> > >
> >> 30 USD is roughtly 20 UK pounds.
> > >
> >> UK food prices are far higher than the US, even so, for that sum
> I
> > > could easily make at least three healthy nutritious delicious
> > > balanced meals for two.
> > >
> >> Even if I bought smkt READY MADE meals (NOT an economical way to
> > > eat) , for that sum I could buy two dinners for two ( main
> > > course, side and bottle of wine)
> > >
> > > http://www.marksandspencer.com/s/food-and-wine/dine-in
> > >
> > >
> >> Janet UK
> >
> > Yup Janet. Though Julie hopefully meant to feed 3 on that 30$,
> news:hJCdnUGtyZ-aq__I...@giganews.com...
> > Janet wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > In article <mjrgtq$fjd$1...@dont-email.me>, juli...@frontier.com
> > > says...
> > >
> > >
> >>> $30 would only buy maybe one meal here.
> > >
> >> I find that impossible to believe.
> > >
> >> 30 USD is roughtly 20 UK pounds.
> > >
> >> UK food prices are far higher than the US, even so, for that sum
> I
> > > could easily make at least three healthy nutritious delicious
> > > balanced meals for two.
> > >
> >> Even if I bought smkt READY MADE meals (NOT an economical way to
> > > eat) , for that sum I could buy two dinners for two ( main
> > > course, side and bottle of wine)
> > >
> > > http://www.marksandspencer.com/s/food-and-wine/dine-in
> > >
> > >
> >> Janet UK
> >
> > others took it as one person which is ridiculous. For your 20 UK
> > lbs, I feed a person for a week here for all 3 meals. Some weeks a
> > little more, some a little less but that is the average. Yes, it's
> > cheaper here but i also may be selecting less expensive things with
> > more prep time on my end making it work. Thats ok. All 3 of us
> > cook (though Charlotte understandably is still learning some
> > aspects, she's a fine baker in her own right now).
> >
> > Meantime I use a fair amount of freecycle (freegle where you are)
> > for other savings on appliances and such. I pass on what didnt
> > work for me and get what i need if another has it.
>
> I think you would be very hard pressed to feed one person here for
> $30 a week. You could do it if you ate beans, the cheapest rice you
> could find and perhaps a little produce. Probably no meat. When I
> spent that much for myself, I never ate meat.
Julie, you are wrong. Don't take it that Sheldon thinks so and
> > lbs, I feed a person for a week here for all 3 meals. Some weeks a
> > little more, some a little less but that is the average. Yes, it's
> > cheaper here but i also may be selecting less expensive things with
> > more prep time on my end making it work. Thats ok. All 3 of us
> > cook (though Charlotte understandably is still learning some
> > aspects, she's a fine baker in her own right now).
> >
> > Meantime I use a fair amount of freecycle (freegle where you are)
> > for other savings on appliances and such. I pass on what didnt
> > work for me and get what i need if another has it.
>
> I think you would be very hard pressed to feed one person here for
> $30 a week. You could do it if you ate beans, the cheapest rice you
> could find and perhaps a little produce. Probably no meat. When I
> spent that much for myself, I never ate meat.
associate to that. It will do you no good to associate to him anyways.
Beans, rice, cheaper fresh veggies, and a hot dog a night of the cheap
sort would be 9$ a week. 9.45 if you added home made bread. Not
balanced at all but you'd make it for a time on it.
On 30$, lots of room for better stuff.
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Pretty sure you would not be eating those things here. Not for $30 a week.
Most people wouldn't be eating Southern BBQ pork here anyway.
of bread with that flour it would have cost me $6 alone in flour and that
flour was on sale. I also have no clue how big a 2 pound loaf is. I never
weighed my bread.
more. It was whole wheat, organic bread flour. I don't use cheap flour.
But it was on sale when I bought it. I don't like cheap flour and I think
that the stuff it produces is quite nasty. If that is truly what you use
then you shouldn't be saying bad things about the 98 cent loaf of bread that
I bought.
will never have this flour again. I bought it when I was getting the CSA
packages. I am no longer getting those and AFAIK it isn't available
anywhere else. I made this pizza to use up the flour because I knew that I
had it for a while. Feel free to use your free flour. You claim that you
are eating *real* food. I say you're not if that is really what you are
eating.
ground pork. I have no meat grinder and I don't want one. I have nowhere
to put it. We don't even eat a lot of meat. I try to eat it about twice a
week. And I am mainly the one who eats ground beef, although my husband
really loves the White Castle Casserole so he will eat a lot of that.
ahead. Those things don't suit me at all and I wouldn't want to eat the end
result. And yes, I did have a bread machine and totally hated it.
I am not making poor choices when those choices are right for *me*! You
couldn't pay me to at BBQ of any kind. I didn't grow up eating the stuff
and I'm not going to eat it now. I realize that is the stuff that couponers
eat all the time because they can get the BBQ sauce for free. And if that's
the sort of food that they like, then great! But nobody here will eat the
stuff so it is not the right choice for us.
school. I did take Home Ec and I was the Home Ec assistant. I do know how
to eat cheaply. Thankfully I don't *have* to do that now and I am not a
cheapskate by any means. Just because something is cheap doesn't mean that
I want it. I might also dispute the Julie bashing crap because you sure
fired back enough lies at me for me to kill file you. Only reason you're
not in it now is that I cleaned it out a few months back.
Most people wouldn't be eating Southern BBQ pork here anyway.
>
>
>> > The most expensive bread i know how to make is a 7 seed rye with
>> > buttermilk. It costs 1.47 for a 2 lb loaf (translation, 14 healthy
>> > man sized rolls or 18 more regular ones). Now lets assume the
>> > biggr ones your eyes always go for ok? 1.47/3=.49 cents for the
>> > whole lot per person. It is 10 cents a roll with 4 rolls each and
>> > 2 left over. My regular bread costs 75cents for 5 cents a day of
>> > bread each. My cheap bread costs 45cents. Same yield.
>>
>> Pretty sure I could not make it that cheaply. I just made two pizza
>> crusts and that was over $3.00. In terms of flour would be about the
>> equivalent to two loaves of bread.
>
> I have no clue what you are doing wrong but it takes 4 cups of flour to
> make 2 pizza crusts, the same as to make a 2lb loaf of bread.
Okay then. I haven't made bread in a while. If I were to make two loaves
>
>> > The most expensive bread i know how to make is a 7 seed rye with
>> > buttermilk. It costs 1.47 for a 2 lb loaf (translation, 14 healthy
>> > man sized rolls or 18 more regular ones). Now lets assume the
>> > biggr ones your eyes always go for ok? 1.47/3=.49 cents for the
>> > whole lot per person. It is 10 cents a roll with 4 rolls each and
>> > 2 left over. My regular bread costs 75cents for 5 cents a day of
>> > bread each. My cheap bread costs 45cents. Same yield.
>>
>> Pretty sure I could not make it that cheaply. I just made two pizza
>> crusts and that was over $3.00. In terms of flour would be about the
>> equivalent to two loaves of bread.
>
> I have no clue what you are doing wrong but it takes 4 cups of flour to
> make 2 pizza crusts, the same as to make a 2lb loaf of bread.
of bread with that flour it would have cost me $6 alone in flour and that
flour was on sale. I also have no clue how big a 2 pound loaf is. I never
weighed my bread.
>
> A 5lb bag of flour has a nominal 20 cups of flour so if you are simple
> enough to use the expensive bread flour at non-sale prices for pizza,
> yes, you might waste 3$ in flour. Normally folks get the cheap stuff
> for what works out as 37cents for 4 cups for a pizza.
The bag of flour that I had, had just about 4 cups in it. Just slightly
> A 5lb bag of flour has a nominal 20 cups of flour so if you are simple
> enough to use the expensive bread flour at non-sale prices for pizza,
> yes, you might waste 3$ in flour. Normally folks get the cheap stuff
> for what works out as 37cents for 4 cups for a pizza.
more. It was whole wheat, organic bread flour. I don't use cheap flour.
But it was on sale when I bought it. I don't like cheap flour and I think
that the stuff it produces is quite nasty. If that is truly what you use
then you shouldn't be saying bad things about the 98 cent loaf of bread that
I bought.
>
>> > Thats just a sample.
>
> And an example of where you didn't use the right flour if you spend 3$
> on flour instead of roughly 37cents for 4 cups. You don't need fancy
> flour for pizza and in fact, it works better with the cheaper types.
Oh but I *did* use the right flour. This pizza is very good! Chances are I
>> > Thats just a sample.
>
> And an example of where you didn't use the right flour if you spend 3$
> on flour instead of roughly 37cents for 4 cups. You don't need fancy
> flour for pizza and in fact, it works better with the cheaper types.
will never have this flour again. I bought it when I was getting the CSA
packages. I am no longer getting those and AFAIK it isn't available
anywhere else. I made this pizza to use up the flour because I knew that I
had it for a while. Feel free to use your free flour. You claim that you
are eating *real* food. I say you're not if that is really what you are
eating.
>
>
>> >
>> > Shift your eating and get rid of a lb of bacon a week (what a
>> > financial waste that one is) and it's more like 1 egg a day at
>> > most. I am sure that offends your soul but some of us have to eat
>> > more veggies to keep the cholestrol down so instead are getting
>> > carrots, squash, snap beans, daikon, cabbage, and fresh greens.
>>
>> Who eats a pound of bacon a week?
>> >
>> > We do indeed spend wisely and fit the 30$ range per person. I hit
>> > 100$ a month per person usually and yes, we have steak, shrimp, and
>> > other goodies.
>>
>> Then food must be insanely cheap where you live or you don't eat much
>> food at all.
>
> No, it is about 10% lower than some other areas but that is all. The
> difference is we actually COOK. From real live basic veggies, fruits,
> pastas, rices and meats. WE also spend a portion of the weekend (about
> 1 hour) every other week or 2 to run the grinder so our ground beef
> costs generally 3$lb and the ground pork would run about 1.27lb. This
> isnt a huge time effort but something done every 2-3 weeks.
>
And I do too but we clearly do not eat the same things. I would never eat
>
>> >
>> > Shift your eating and get rid of a lb of bacon a week (what a
>> > financial waste that one is) and it's more like 1 egg a day at
>> > most. I am sure that offends your soul but some of us have to eat
>> > more veggies to keep the cholestrol down so instead are getting
>> > carrots, squash, snap beans, daikon, cabbage, and fresh greens.
>>
>> Who eats a pound of bacon a week?
>> >
>> > We do indeed spend wisely and fit the 30$ range per person. I hit
>> > 100$ a month per person usually and yes, we have steak, shrimp, and
>> > other goodies.
>>
>> Then food must be insanely cheap where you live or you don't eat much
>> food at all.
>
> No, it is about 10% lower than some other areas but that is all. The
> difference is we actually COOK. From real live basic veggies, fruits,
> pastas, rices and meats. WE also spend a portion of the weekend (about
> 1 hour) every other week or 2 to run the grinder so our ground beef
> costs generally 3$lb and the ground pork would run about 1.27lb. This
> isnt a huge time effort but something done every 2-3 weeks.
>
ground pork. I have no meat grinder and I don't want one. I have nowhere
to put it. We don't even eat a lot of meat. I try to eat it about twice a
week. And I am mainly the one who eats ground beef, although my husband
really loves the White Castle Casserole so he will eat a lot of that.
>
>> >
>> > The average meal here per person is about 2$ for dinner, 1$ for
>> > lunch and change for breakfast.
>> >
>> > That you can't do it, isnt a reason to abuse those who can and do.
>>
>> Most of us can't do it because food just costs more where we are.
>> And most people don't make their own bread. Many people haven't got
>> the time to do it. I do sometimes but it takes me all night to do
>> it. I couldn't do that very often if I were working. And no, I
>> won't use a bread machine. I had one and hated it.
>
> Well, suit your self on the bread making and how long it took you but
> dont abuse those who take 5 minutes out 2-3 times a week to make bread
> with a machine. As to food costng more, no. I aint buying that. You
> are making poor choices compared in cost to mine. It's NOT that
> different. You might run a little higher, but not the higher levels you
> list.
How am I abusing you? You want to use cheap flour and a machine? Go right
>> >
>> > The average meal here per person is about 2$ for dinner, 1$ for
>> > lunch and change for breakfast.
>> >
>> > That you can't do it, isnt a reason to abuse those who can and do.
>>
>> Most of us can't do it because food just costs more where we are.
>> And most people don't make their own bread. Many people haven't got
>> the time to do it. I do sometimes but it takes me all night to do
>> it. I couldn't do that very often if I were working. And no, I
>> won't use a bread machine. I had one and hated it.
>
> Well, suit your self on the bread making and how long it took you but
> dont abuse those who take 5 minutes out 2-3 times a week to make bread
> with a machine. As to food costng more, no. I aint buying that. You
> are making poor choices compared in cost to mine. It's NOT that
> different. You might run a little higher, but not the higher levels you
> list.
ahead. Those things don't suit me at all and I wouldn't want to eat the end
result. And yes, I did have a bread machine and totally hated it.
I am not making poor choices when those choices are right for *me*! You
couldn't pay me to at BBQ of any kind. I didn't grow up eating the stuff
and I'm not going to eat it now. I realize that is the stuff that couponers
eat all the time because they can get the BBQ sauce for free. And if that's
the sort of food that they like, then great! But nobody here will eat the
stuff so it is not the right choice for us.
>
> Sorry Julie, I am not a Julie basher but you've stepped too far out and
> you either really don't understand economically shopping or you are
> making this stuff up. While i suspect the former, others will accuse
> you of the later.
> Carol
Well, I can't say that I am feeling you too much at the moment. I did go to
> Sorry Julie, I am not a Julie basher but you've stepped too far out and
> you either really don't understand economically shopping or you are
> making this stuff up. While i suspect the former, others will accuse
> you of the later.
> Carol
school. I did take Home Ec and I was the Home Ec assistant. I do know how
to eat cheaply. Thankfully I don't *have* to do that now and I am not a
cheapskate by any means. Just because something is cheap doesn't mean that
I want it. I might also dispute the Julie bashing crap because you sure
fired back enough lies at me for me to kill file you. Only reason you're
not in it now is that I cleaned it out a few months back.
Ed Pawlowski
May 24, 2015, 11:49:23 PM5/24/15
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>
>
> Who eats a pound of bacon a week?
>>
I make a pound a week. A pound is about 18 to 20 rashers. Three of us
>
>
> Who eats a pound of bacon a week?
>>
will eat some for Sunday breakfast and the rest goes into the freezer.
A few mornings a week I'll nuke two pieces to go with my egg.
Julie Bove
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That would not be the case here at all. I have seen those crappy hot dogs
for sale on occasion perhaps a couple of times a year. I do not generally
buy those or any hot dogs. Perhaps once a year I will buy those. Perhaps
twice a year I will buy uncured beef or chicken hot dogs. I did so
recently. I just do not think that hot dogs are wholesome food. So I don't
buy them often at all.
When I didn't have much money, I ate no meat all all and not even beans, but
I did eat eggs. Eggs were far cheaper in those days and so was dairy. I
also ate peanut butter and lots of pasta.
for sale on occasion perhaps a couple of times a year. I do not generally
buy those or any hot dogs. Perhaps once a year I will buy those. Perhaps
twice a year I will buy uncured beef or chicken hot dogs. I did so
recently. I just do not think that hot dogs are wholesome food. So I don't
buy them often at all.
When I didn't have much money, I ate no meat all all and not even beans, but
I did eat eggs. Eggs were far cheaper in those days and so was dairy. I
also ate peanut butter and lots of pasta.
Julie Bove
May 24, 2015, 11:51:38 PM5/24/15
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Stores are far enough away for me that I have to factor in gas. I am taking
advantage of Amazon Fresh while the shipping is free. I do order in about
$50 increments but only for certain things. Some of what they sell is
overpriced, IMO.
>I do it because for me its a good way to not overspend. It keeps me in a
>"do I really need this?" mindset.
I suppose that might work if you live close enough to walk to the store.
>"do I really need this?" mindset.
Stores are far enough away for me that I have to factor in gas. I am taking
advantage of Amazon Fresh while the shipping is free. I do order in about
$50 increments but only for certain things. Some of what they sell is
overpriced, IMO.
Ed Pawlowski
May 24, 2015, 11:55:58 PM5/24/15
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>
>
> Not only that but time is money. Takes a long time to make bread if you
> don't have the machine and... People who quote prices like that likely
> aren't factoring in the price of electricity or water and soap to clean
> the dishes and pans.
>>
Very valid point. That store bought bread is also more costly than the
>
>
> Not only that but time is money. Takes a long time to make bread if you
> don't have the machine and... People who quote prices like that likely
> aren't factoring in the price of electricity or water and soap to clean
> the dishes and pans.
>>
sticker price when you factor in the cost of operating your vehicle and
the time to go get it.
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May 25, 2015, 12:07:56 AM5/25/15
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Julie Bove
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If you have to do that. Some people walk to the store. I rarely make a
trip just to go to the store. I did today. But in general when I go to the
store it is because I had to go somewhere else in that area.
trip just to go to the store. I did today. But in general when I go to the
store it is because I had to go somewhere else in that area.
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May 25, 2015, 1:03:27 AM5/25/15
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On 5/25/2015 12:52 AM, The Other Guy wrote:
> that's what you want to do.
>
> I don't drive, so I take a bus, same price if I get bread or a list of
> things to make bread.
>
Buy a 10 lb bag of flour and some years and you are set for weeks.
Everything has a cost, but some can be moderated.
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 21:09:07 -0700, "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote in message
>> news:YZqdnSi2BJzWAP_I...@giganews.com...
>>> On 5/24/2015 9:07 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not only that but time is money. Takes a long time to make bread if you
>>>> don't have the machine and... People who quote prices like that likely
>>>> aren't factoring in the price of electricity or water and soap to clean
>>>> the dishes and pans.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Very valid point. That store bought bread is also more costly than the
>>> sticker price when you factor in the cost of operating your vehicle and
>>> the time to go get it.
>>
>> If you have to do that.
>
> And you HAVE to go to the store for the ingredients to make bread if
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote in message
>> news:YZqdnSi2BJzWAP_I...@giganews.com...
>>> On 5/24/2015 9:07 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not only that but time is money. Takes a long time to make bread if you
>>>> don't have the machine and... People who quote prices like that likely
>>>> aren't factoring in the price of electricity or water and soap to clean
>>>> the dishes and pans.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Very valid point. That store bought bread is also more costly than the
>>> sticker price when you factor in the cost of operating your vehicle and
>>> the time to go get it.
>>
>> If you have to do that.
>
> that's what you want to do.
>
> I don't drive, so I take a bus, same price if I get bread or a list of
> things to make bread.
>
Buy a 10 lb bag of flour and some years and you are set for weeks.
Everything has a cost, but some can be moderated.
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Cabrito del Bosque
May 25, 2015, 1:09:49 AM5/25/15
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> The price of bacon is finally going down
Choke to death on it, you vermin.
> The price of bacon is finally going down
Choke to death on it, you vermin.
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Cheri
May 25, 2015, 1:16:43 AM5/25/15
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> I always tell people that when THEY are paying for my food,
> they MIGHT have the right to judge what I'm eating.
A very sensible reply indeed.
Cheri
> they MIGHT have the right to judge what I'm eating.
A very sensible reply indeed.
Cheri
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May 25, 2015, 1:57:16 AM5/25/15
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> Simple red potatoes, ONLY size bags they had, 5 pounds, $5, while they
> were $2 some months ago. *I* am NOT stupid, OR a child, and I have
> been on my own cooking AND eating for most of my 67 years, I SURE as hell
> don't need advice on shopping from you or anyone else who ISN'T buying my
> groceries.
But that doesn't stop the dictating that some people have a need to do.
Cheri
> were $2 some months ago. *I* am NOT stupid, OR a child, and I have
> been on my own cooking AND eating for most of my 67 years, I SURE as hell
> don't need advice on shopping from you or anyone else who ISN'T buying my
> groceries.
But that doesn't stop the dictating that some people have a need to do.
Cheri
Julie Bove
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> is more like $150. NOT in my budget, plus my cat doesn't eat
> sandwiches, and I only eat one a day. A commercial loaf will be as
> fresh after a week as it was the day I bought it, homemade not
> necessarily, plus I have to provide something to store it in that
> is as good as the bag commercial comes in.
still think I should order what I want. I ticked someone off today who did
not approve of something I did. When she was trying to tell me where I went
wrong, she started out with, "Well... My dad used to say..." I then
stopped her and said that I didn't care what her dad said. She didn't like
that at all. I don't have to do things or in this case not do them based on
someone else.
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 20:45:54 -0700, "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com>
> wrote:
>
>>How am I abusing you? You want to use cheap flour and a machine? Go
>>right
>>ahead. Those things don't suit me at all and I wouldn't want to eat the
>>end
>>result. And yes, I did have a bread machine and totally hated it.
>
> Just checked Amazon. Cheapest bread machine is $50, average price
> wrote:
>
>>How am I abusing you? You want to use cheap flour and a machine? Go
>>right
>>ahead. Those things don't suit me at all and I wouldn't want to eat the
>>end
>>result. And yes, I did have a bread machine and totally hated it.
>
> is more like $150. NOT in my budget, plus my cat doesn't eat
> sandwiches, and I only eat one a day. A commercial loaf will be as
> fresh after a week as it was the day I bought it, homemade not
> necessarily, plus I have to provide something to store it in that
> is as good as the bag commercial comes in.
>
>>I am not making poor choices when those choices are right for *me*!
>
>>I am not making poor choices when those choices are right for *me*!
>
> I always tell people that when THEY are paying for my food,
> they MIGHT have the right to judge what I'm eating.
Might. But if I go out to eat and another person is picking up the tab, I
> they MIGHT have the right to judge what I'm eating.
still think I should order what I want. I ticked someone off today who did
not approve of something I did. When she was trying to tell me where I went
wrong, she started out with, "Well... My dad used to say..." I then
stopped her and said that I didn't care what her dad said. She didn't like
that at all. I don't have to do things or in this case not do them based on
someone else.
Julie Bove
May 25, 2015, 2:01:54 AM5/25/15
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> why cheap out THAT much?
>
> And HOW healthy would a person be on THAT diet, after a month,
> or a year??
>
> Let alone, how HUNGRY?
Seriously! A grocery store is full of choices. But many of those choices
are not mine. I don't eat Ramen either. Beans are cheap and healthy and I
like them. Rice is no longer as cheap as it once was and perhaps not as
healthy as we once thought.
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 20:17:57 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>Beans, rice, cheaper fresh veggies, and a hot dog a night of the cheap
>>sort would be 9$ a week. 9.45 if you added home made bread. Not
>>balanced at all but you'd make it for a time on it.
>
> An 8 pack of nasty cheap hotdogs would cost $4, good ones $5,
>
>>Beans, rice, cheaper fresh veggies, and a hot dog a night of the cheap
>>sort would be 9$ a week. 9.45 if you added home made bread. Not
>>balanced at all but you'd make it for a time on it.
>
> why cheap out THAT much?
>
> And HOW healthy would a person be on THAT diet, after a month,
> or a year??
>
> Let alone, how HUNGRY?
Seriously! A grocery store is full of choices. But many of those choices
are not mine. I don't eat Ramen either. Beans are cheap and healthy and I
like them. Rice is no longer as cheap as it once was and perhaps not as
healthy as we once thought.
Julie Bove
May 25, 2015, 2:03:10 AM5/25/15
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> On Sun, 24 May 2015 22:11:55 -0700, The Other Guy wrote:
>
>> An 8 pack of nasty cheap hotdogs would cost $4, good ones $5,
>> why cheap out THAT much?
>
> 12oz package of Bar-S "meat franks" (mostly mechanically separated
>
>> An 8 pack of nasty cheap hotdogs would cost $4, good ones $5,
>> why cheap out THAT much?
>
> chicken) are under $1, along with a couple other "economy" brands.
> Hebrew National are $6.18 last I priced them.
>
> -sw
Not here unless it is on sale. Or perhaps they have them for that price at
Dollar Tree or Big Lots. I did see some sort of tube things at Big Lots but
not being in the market for anything like that I didn't really look at them
very well.
Julie Bove
May 25, 2015, 2:09:00 AM5/25/15
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> On Sun, 24 May 2015 19:30:42 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>Then quit bitching if you can't spring to a bread machine and 5 minutes
>>of your time once a week.
>
> WHO the hell was 'bitching'?? I just replied.
>
> YOU are being unrealistic, and making it all sound MUCH simpler
> than it really is for most people.
Not only that but bread machines aren't cheap and IMO do not produce good
bread.
>>Cut the portion to reasonable levels then. You don't need 1lb a night
>>for just yourself.
>
> Again, WHO SAID I eat a pound of anything, THAT was you, NOT me.
>
> I might cook up a 3-4 pound package of chicken thighs, and eat
> 2 a day for the next week to 10 days.
>
> A pound of ground beef will get added to 3 or 4 servings of rice
> or pasta.
>
> I MIGHT eat a pound of boiled potatoes and cabbage at one serving.
She has reading comprehension problems.
>
>>There's another thing wrong. Organic doesnt last longer
>
> A half gallon of 'regular' milk will have a 'sell by' date
> that will be, at BEST, a week away, and it WILL go bad before
> that date.
>
> The 'organic' that I buy, at a slightly higher price, will
> have a best by date that's more than a month away, and it WILL
> still taste drinkable at that point.
>
> When I drank a half gallon a day, I didn't look at the use by
> date, I DO now.
Most says to use within 7 days after opening.
>
>> Cut to a smaller size and dump the fancy 'organic'
>
> A smaller size (quart) WILL get used up too soon and require
> an otherwise unnecessary trip to the store. AND the smaller
> the container, the HIGHER the per-unit price. All SERIOUS
> factors for some of us.
>
>>since it's apt to not really be organic anyways.
>
> Again, I'm in California, so it ABSOLUTELY IS organic
And some of us prefer organic.
>
>>Quit wasting food by getting larger than you can use and know it's
>>larger than you can use.
>
> WHO FREAKING SAID I was wasting anything, or buying too much??
> THAT seems to be YOUR problem, or 'projection'.
>>the bags that have potatoes just as nice inside. Shopping 101. The mot
>>espensive version of any product will be at eye level or in open bins.
used to. The cheapest place to get them is Costco but few families could
eat as many as are in one of those huge bags. And I will no longer buy them
there after getting those rotten ones.
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 19:30:42 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>Then quit bitching if you can't spring to a bread machine and 5 minutes
>>of your time once a week.
>
> WHO the hell was 'bitching'?? I just replied.
>
> YOU are being unrealistic, and making it all sound MUCH simpler
> than it really is for most people.
Not only that but bread machines aren't cheap and IMO do not produce good
bread.
>>Cut the portion to reasonable levels then. You don't need 1lb a night
>>for just yourself.
>
> Again, WHO SAID I eat a pound of anything, THAT was you, NOT me.
>
> I might cook up a 3-4 pound package of chicken thighs, and eat
> 2 a day for the next week to 10 days.
>
> A pound of ground beef will get added to 3 or 4 servings of rice
> or pasta.
>
> I MIGHT eat a pound of boiled potatoes and cabbage at one serving.
She has reading comprehension problems.
>
>>There's another thing wrong. Organic doesnt last longer
>
> A half gallon of 'regular' milk will have a 'sell by' date
> that will be, at BEST, a week away, and it WILL go bad before
> that date.
>
> The 'organic' that I buy, at a slightly higher price, will
> have a best by date that's more than a month away, and it WILL
> still taste drinkable at that point.
>
> When I drank a half gallon a day, I didn't look at the use by
> date, I DO now.
Most says to use within 7 days after opening.
>
>> Cut to a smaller size and dump the fancy 'organic'
>
> A smaller size (quart) WILL get used up too soon and require
> an otherwise unnecessary trip to the store. AND the smaller
> the container, the HIGHER the per-unit price. All SERIOUS
> factors for some of us.
>
>>since it's apt to not really be organic anyways.
>
> Again, I'm in California, so it ABSOLUTELY IS organic
And some of us prefer organic.
>
>>Quit wasting food by getting larger than you can use and know it's
>>larger than you can use.
>
> WHO FREAKING SAID I was wasting anything, or buying too much??
> THAT seems to be YOUR problem, or 'projection'.
>
>
>
>>> > What the heck on your potato prices? Its 2.97 for 8lbs here. Maybe
>>> > look around a bit better?
>>>
>>> THAT was the price today, up almost double what it was a few months
>>> ago.
>>
>>
>>I suggest not looking at the pretty ones on the eye level and look for
>
>
>>> > What the heck on your potato prices? Its 2.97 for 8lbs here. Maybe
>>> > look around a bit better?
>>>
>>> THAT was the price today, up almost double what it was a few months
>>> ago.
>>
>>
>>the bags that have potatoes just as nice inside. Shopping 101. The mot
>>espensive version of any product will be at eye level or in open bins.
>
> Simple red potatoes, ONLY size bags they had, 5 pounds, $5, while they
> were $2 some months ago. *I* am NOT stupid, OR a child, and I have
> been on my own cooking AND eating for most of my 67 years, I SURE as hell
> don't need advice on shopping from you or anyone else who ISN'T buying my
> groceries.
Potatoes are no longer cheap here either. I buy far less of them than I
> Simple red potatoes, ONLY size bags they had, 5 pounds, $5, while they
> were $2 some months ago. *I* am NOT stupid, OR a child, and I have
> been on my own cooking AND eating for most of my 67 years, I SURE as hell
> don't need advice on shopping from you or anyone else who ISN'T buying my
> groceries.
used to. The cheapest place to get them is Costco but few families could
eat as many as are in one of those huge bags. And I will no longer buy them
there after getting those rotten ones.
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Julie Bove
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Julie Bove
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> of saying..
>
> "well, that's one damned fool's opinion".
>
> And yes, she really DID say that!
Heh. I shudder to think of what this person might have done if I had said
that to her!
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 22:59:34 -0700, "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com>
> wrote:
>>she started out with, "Well... My dad used to say..." I then
>>stopped her and said that I didn't care what her dad said.
>
> I counter THAT kind of nonsense with what my Grandmother was found
> wrote:
>>she started out with, "Well... My dad used to say..." I then
>>stopped her and said that I didn't care what her dad said.
>
> of saying..
>
> "well, that's one damned fool's opinion".
>
> And yes, she really DID say that!
Heh. I shudder to think of what this person might have done if I had said
that to her!
Julie Bove
May 25, 2015, 3:32:40 AM5/25/15
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> After being diagnosed with serious high blood pressure, I went on a diet,
> and switched from boxed pasta side dishes to rice, both are still
> affordable and reasonably healthy in moderation.
>
> I've had times when I ate primarily ramen for months at a time to save
> money, but it REALLY made me what something more filling after a while.
>
>
> I don't eat hot dogs often, and when I get them, I get good ones (Vienna
> Beef or Hebrew National, and at Osco if possible) they're mostly cut up
> and added to rice or pasta rather than conventional hot dog style.
>
> I like beans, and get them when on sale, like today. Bushes country
> style, 28 ounce cans, 3 for $5. Each can will make 3 or 4 servings to
> go with some meat or other veggies.
I grew up eating those boxed side dishes and I have always hated them.
Daughter and I do not eat them but once in a great while if I find one for
cheap I will buy it and keep it for my husband and I will use it when he
wants an immediate meal and I haven't got anything ready. I can't really
say that he likes them but I also don't care in a case like that. He does
like Rice A Roni. I don't know why. We don't. So again, I buy for him but
I don't make them very often. I do eat some Mexican rice from McCormick but
I don't eat that often either. I either have plain rice or I make my own
side dish.
> and switched from boxed pasta side dishes to rice, both are still
> affordable and reasonably healthy in moderation.
>
> I've had times when I ate primarily ramen for months at a time to save
> money, but it REALLY made me what something more filling after a while.
>
>
> I don't eat hot dogs often, and when I get them, I get good ones (Vienna
> Beef or Hebrew National, and at Osco if possible) they're mostly cut up
> and added to rice or pasta rather than conventional hot dog style.
>
> I like beans, and get them when on sale, like today. Bushes country
> style, 28 ounce cans, 3 for $5. Each can will make 3 or 4 servings to
> go with some meat or other veggies.
I grew up eating those boxed side dishes and I have always hated them.
Daughter and I do not eat them but once in a great while if I find one for
cheap I will buy it and keep it for my husband and I will use it when he
wants an immediate meal and I haven't got anything ready. I can't really
say that he likes them but I also don't care in a case like that. He does
like Rice A Roni. I don't know why. We don't. So again, I buy for him but
I don't make them very often. I do eat some Mexican rice from McCormick but
I don't eat that often either. I either have plain rice or I make my own
side dish.
Ophelia
May 25, 2015, 5:53:46 AM5/25/15
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> On Sun, 24 May 2015 19:30:42 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>Then quit bitching if you can't spring to a bread machine and 5 minutes
>>of your time once a week.
>
> WHO the hell was 'bitching'?? I just replied.
>
> YOU are being unrealistic, and making it all sound MUCH simpler
> than it really is for most people.
>
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 19:30:42 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>Then quit bitching if you can't spring to a bread machine and 5 minutes
>>of your time once a week.
>
> WHO the hell was 'bitching'?? I just replied.
>
> YOU are being unrealistic, and making it all sound MUCH simpler
> than it really is for most people.
>
>>Cut the portion to reasonable levels then. You don't need 1lb a night
>>for just yourself.
>
> Again, WHO SAID I eat a pound of anything, THAT was you, NOT me.
>
> I might cook up a 3-4 pound package of chicken thighs, and eat
> 2 a day for the next week to 10 days.
>
> A pound of ground beef will get added to 3 or 4 servings of rice
> or pasta.
>
> I MIGHT eat a pound of boiled potatoes and cabbage at one serving.
>
>>for just yourself.
>
> Again, WHO SAID I eat a pound of anything, THAT was you, NOT me.
>
> I might cook up a 3-4 pound package of chicken thighs, and eat
> 2 a day for the next week to 10 days.
>
> A pound of ground beef will get added to 3 or 4 servings of rice
> or pasta.
>
> I MIGHT eat a pound of boiled potatoes and cabbage at one serving.
>
>>There's another thing wrong. Organic doesnt last longer
>
> A half gallon of 'regular' milk will have a 'sell by' date
> that will be, at BEST, a week away, and it WILL go bad before
> that date.
>
> The 'organic' that I buy, at a slightly higher price, will
> have a best by date that's more than a month away, and it WILL
> still taste drinkable at that point.
>
> When I drank a half gallon a day, I didn't look at the use by
> date, I DO now.
>
>
> A half gallon of 'regular' milk will have a 'sell by' date
> that will be, at BEST, a week away, and it WILL go bad before
> that date.
>
> The 'organic' that I buy, at a slightly higher price, will
> have a best by date that's more than a month away, and it WILL
> still taste drinkable at that point.
>
> When I drank a half gallon a day, I didn't look at the use by
> date, I DO now.
>
>> Cut to a smaller size and dump the fancy 'organic'
>
> A smaller size (quart) WILL get used up too soon and require
> an otherwise unnecessary trip to the store. AND the smaller
> the container, the HIGHER the per-unit price. All SERIOUS
> factors for some of us.
>
>>since it's apt to not really be organic anyways.
>
> Again, I'm in California, so it ABSOLUTELY IS organic
>
>
> A smaller size (quart) WILL get used up too soon and require
> an otherwise unnecessary trip to the store. AND the smaller
> the container, the HIGHER the per-unit price. All SERIOUS
> factors for some of us.
>
>>since it's apt to not really be organic anyways.
>
> Again, I'm in California, so it ABSOLUTELY IS organic
>
>>Quit wasting food by getting larger than you can use and know it's
>>larger than you can use.
>
> WHO FREAKING SAID I was wasting anything, or buying too much??
> THAT seems to be YOUR problem, or 'projection'.
>
>
>
>>> > What the heck on your potato prices? Its 2.97 for 8lbs here. Maybe
>>> > look around a bit better?
>>>
>>> THAT was the price today, up almost double what it was a few months
>>> ago.
>>
>>
>>I suggest not looking at the pretty ones on the eye level and look for
>>the bags that have potatoes just as nice inside. Shopping 101. The mot
>>espensive version of any product will be at eye level or in open bins.
>
>>larger than you can use.
>
> WHO FREAKING SAID I was wasting anything, or buying too much??
> THAT seems to be YOUR problem, or 'projection'.
>
>
>
>>> > What the heck on your potato prices? Its 2.97 for 8lbs here. Maybe
>>> > look around a bit better?
>>>
>>> THAT was the price today, up almost double what it was a few months
>>> ago.
>>
>>
>>I suggest not looking at the pretty ones on the eye level and look for
>>the bags that have potatoes just as nice inside. Shopping 101. The mot
>>espensive version of any product will be at eye level or in open bins.
>
> Simple red potatoes, ONLY size bags they had, 5 pounds, $5, while they
> were $2 some months ago. *I* am NOT stupid, OR a child, and I have
> been on my own cooking AND eating for most of my 67 years, I SURE as hell
> don't need advice on shopping from you or anyone else who ISN'T buying my
> groceries.
Very well said! It is tiring when people try to dictate how others must eat
> were $2 some months ago. *I* am NOT stupid, OR a child, and I have
> been on my own cooking AND eating for most of my 67 years, I SURE as hell
> don't need advice on shopping from you or anyone else who ISN'T buying my
> groceries.
and live:(
They need to look to their own business.
--
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Ophelia
May 25, 2015, 5:58:54 AM5/25/15
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Ophelia
May 25, 2015, 6:30:20 AM5/25/15
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> After being diagnosed with serious high blood pressure, I went on a diet,
> and switched from boxed pasta side dishes to rice, both are still
> affordable and reasonably healthy in moderation.
Were you not given medication for that?
--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/
> After being diagnosed with serious high blood pressure, I went on a diet,
> and switched from boxed pasta side dishes to rice, both are still
> affordable and reasonably healthy in moderation.
--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/
Cindy Hamilton
May 25, 2015, 6:45:42 AM5/25/15
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On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 9:08:01 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> Not only that but time is money.
Time is money only if you have a job.
> Not only that but time is money.
Cindy Hamilton
Gary
May 25, 2015, 8:47:23 AM5/25/15
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Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Only
> way people can grocerey shop for $30/wk is they ain't mentioning their
> food stamps.
LOL! Sheldon, I loved your rant. eheh Seriously, I spent 30-40 per
week for food and also all the other needs....toilet paper, paper
towels, bulk items that last forever. And I eat enough meat too but I
wait for sales.
If you cook your own meals your food bill is fairly low. And in my
$30-$40 per week I even throw in some frozen dinners for when I don't
want to cook at all.
BTW - I've always paid my way through life. Never received any govt
suppliments. Never used food stamps, never applied for unemployment,
or welfare. I still don't have health care since age 50 (which is
scary at my age). Since then, I've paid the bills myself anytime I go
to a doctor.
Here's the hidden part that people don't even hear about. I fit right
into that crack where Obamacare not only didn't help me...it made my
situation worse.
With my current job - employed full time but can be defined as
"underemployed." We often get a few months run working full time and
I save money then. Never fails, just as soon as I get a good savings
going we run out of work and I can sit home for weeks. Thank God, I
saved the money earlier and can still pay my bills.
Anyway...even the cheaper Obamacare is more than I can afford. I do
know a few others in the same situation. Well, now with Obamacare, if
you still don't have health insurance you get penalized - penalty
deducted from you tax refund.
Before Obamacare, I had no health insurance and that was that.
Now this year, I was charged $280 for not having health insurance.
Good old Obama. He sure screwed me...a working class American, working
hard as I can and just trying to make a living.
> Only
> way people can grocerey shop for $30/wk is they ain't mentioning their
> food stamps.
LOL! Sheldon, I loved your rant. eheh Seriously, I spent 30-40 per
week for food and also all the other needs....toilet paper, paper
towels, bulk items that last forever. And I eat enough meat too but I
wait for sales.
If you cook your own meals your food bill is fairly low. And in my
$30-$40 per week I even throw in some frozen dinners for when I don't
want to cook at all.
BTW - I've always paid my way through life. Never received any govt
suppliments. Never used food stamps, never applied for unemployment,
or welfare. I still don't have health care since age 50 (which is
scary at my age). Since then, I've paid the bills myself anytime I go
to a doctor.
Here's the hidden part that people don't even hear about. I fit right
into that crack where Obamacare not only didn't help me...it made my
situation worse.
With my current job - employed full time but can be defined as
"underemployed." We often get a few months run working full time and
I save money then. Never fails, just as soon as I get a good savings
going we run out of work and I can sit home for weeks. Thank God, I
saved the money earlier and can still pay my bills.
Anyway...even the cheaper Obamacare is more than I can afford. I do
know a few others in the same situation. Well, now with Obamacare, if
you still don't have health insurance you get penalized - penalty
deducted from you tax refund.
Before Obamacare, I had no health insurance and that was that.
Now this year, I was charged $280 for not having health insurance.
Good old Obama. He sure screwed me...a working class American, working
hard as I can and just trying to make a living.
Ed Pawlowski
May 25, 2015, 11:03:40 AM5/25/15
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On 5/25/2015 1:07 AM, The Other Guy wrote:
>
> I always tell people that when THEY are paying for my food,
> they MIGHT have the right to judge what I'm eating.
>
Does that mean we can dictate what food stamp (SNAP) recipients can eat?
>
> I always tell people that when THEY are paying for my food,
> they MIGHT have the right to judge what I'm eating.
>
Can we stop by their house and ask for a sandwich?
cshenk
May 25, 2015, 12:19:18 PM5/25/15
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Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:rY6dnUfk_cVH9f_I...@giganews.com...
> > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > >
> >>"cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:yqSdnSPcV7ONuP_I...@giganews.com...
> >>> Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > > >
> >>> > Julie Bove wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>>>> "Christopher Helms" wrote:
> >>>>> > It's a lot easier to spend a hundred dollars on groceries than
> >>it >>> > used to be. I try to stay under thirty dollars per trip and
> >>it >>> > seems to require a little more creativity every month.
> >>> > >
> >>>>> $30 would only buy maybe one meal here.
> >>> >
> >>> > No way, Julie. I also spend about $30 per week or a little bit
> >>> > more. That's just for me though. There's no way you are
> spending >>> > $30 per MEAL for your family of 3 that don't like most
> foods. >>> >
> >>> > G.
> > > >
> >>> True Gary. I spend a little less than you per person but with 3
> of >>> us, we can make more use of sales and I am in what is
> considered a >>> fairly cheaper food area.
> >>> Carol
> > >
> > > I spent about $30 a week on just myself back in the 1980's. And I
> > > dined out a lot. Groceries are not cheap here! I probably spend
> > > about $300 a week, no counting restaurant meals but that's hard to
> > > tell because some things I buy like flour, black pepper or olive
> > > oil would certainly last far more than a week. I also stock up
> > > on canned things, and I buy paper products, cleaning supplies,
> > > magazines, books, cat things and some cosmetics. So not all food.
> >
> > That you spend more, doesnt mean you are spending wisely.
>
> Nor does it mean that I don't. I am no cheapskate! I do get the
> Rosarita refried beans for 80 cents a can. That price probably beats
> dried beans since I am not having to add seasonings or cook them.
> But I also buy expensive olives sometimes, just because I want them.
> And I am grateful that I can. There was a time when I couldn't buy
> any kind of olives!
Julie, some of us shop less often to it's easy to average it out. I
tend to a big trip every 6 weeks. I run about 500$ and split that
down, it's 27$ a week per person. That happens to include toilet
paper, laundry detergent, and sundry things like shampoos.
The actual food would be about 400$. I make small ancillary trips for
fresh veggies, buttermilk and such at the 2 week and 4 week point.
Those cost 20-30$ or so. That works out as 25$ a week here per person
but don't worry, the other 5$ per person per week finds a home with
some sort of takeout.
>
> Tonight's dinner is pizza and salad. Yes, I did buy a bag of mixed
> greens just because that is likely the only salad we'll eat this
> week. It was just enough for three. I added toppings based on what
> people like. Black olives, plum tomatoes, celery, red pepper, red
> onion. Would have been cucumber but the last little piece had gone
> mushy.
>
> Whole wheat pizza crust made from scratch. I did purchase the sauce.
> Yes, I know I could have made it but stuff came up, and husband
> wanted to eat right away so I just bought sauce when I went to the
> store. Expensive sauce. Not the most expensive I have bought but it
> was $4.99 for the two pizzas. Theirs has a combination of Western
> Family (cheap) mozzarella and a small amount of leftover medium
> priced, mixed Italian cheeses and some very expensive, uncured
> pepperoni. Mine has Daiya (dairy free) cheese, red onion, fresh
> tomato slices and pine nuts.
I use the weekends and make pizza sauce that is better than the jar.
If you used the whole 4.99 jar on just 2 pizzas, theyd be swimming in
sauce so much you'd have to eat it with a spoon..
At the most sloppy pizza, you'd get 4 to 6 pizzas from that jar. Me, I
take 1.50 (BOGO) worth of 28 oz cans, spice and reduce them for a
really better sauce than I can buy. I start with 48 oz there and reduce
to about 32 and make some spagetti with 12 oz of it then reduce the
rest to a serious thick pizza sauce that peaks when stirred and use
that for pizza. For about 1.70 (includes price of spices) I get 4
pizzas and a big pot of spagetti.
Lets add 45cents for the 2 pizzas dough, 30 cents worth of pasta for
the spagetti. 2.45. Bell peppers, 2 for 1.26. An onion, .15 bought
in bags, sliced pepperoni at 3.69 a bag covers 6 pizzas (really more
but we'll pretend) so add 1.23. You are at 5.09 cents. Each pizza
feeds 3 and the spagetti has 6 servings. 12 servings total. 42 cents
a serving. Plenty of room to add some meatballs or whatever else like
cheese to the pizza. 2 cups grated cheese here commonly on sale 3 for
5$ for example which is 1.66 a bag and you need 1 cup per pizza for an
extra 83 cents a pizza but that gets split 3 ways for a 27cent cost per
serving per person.
Pizza is now at 69 cents a serving.
If you noticed, I cheated, See I added money for 4 pizzas and would
have had leftover pizza fixings there. Specifically, sauce.
> I looked at potato prices. The only one I remember was for the bulk
> russets at 98 cents per pound. I did not buy any. I did buy black
> grapes and cherries. Cherries were $9.98 per pound. I only bought
> them because husband ripped through the last bag that I got in no
> time flat. I prefer to buy food that they will eat and not have to
> throw things out.
Nothing wrong with that Julie but bulk potatoes are always a good thing
to have about. I have a potato bin that will hold 8 lbs with room to
spare and it has a compartment to hold onions (3lb bag is just right).
> I do like to save money on many things. However there are other
> things where I prefer to buy really good stuff. One of those things
> is meat. I don't see too much difference with canned beans but when
> it comes to the refried, there were a few I did not like at all
> because they were runny. I don't see much difference with most
> canned vegetables. Tomatoes can be an exception. I do think when it
> comes to some tomato products, some are superior but that's not
> always what I buy.
Red-gold brand tomatoes are really good and lower in sodium. Furmanos
works for me very well.
Meantime, we cooked up 8 pork loin (boneless) 1 inch thick steaks, 3
lbs wahoo (Don catches this of the coast of mexico and we have it
professionally cleaned and frozen then shipped back), and i am about to
start a chicken soup from a 3lb chicken in the crockpot. I won't
detail the cost this time but it works out to about 47cents a 1 cup
hearty serving.
If wondering on the fish, when you add the cost for the fishing trip,
cost of tickets and hotel, and professional cleaning, packing and
shipping, the fish is 2.41lb. Professionally packed and shipped, it
will last for 2 years.
The point isnt that you are 'wrong' so much as not looking at it right
for savings I think.
Carol
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>
> "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:rY6dnUfk_cVH9f_I...@giganews.com...
> > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > >
> >>"cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:yqSdnSPcV7ONuP_I...@giganews.com...
> >>> Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > > >
> >>> > Julie Bove wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>>>> "Christopher Helms" wrote:
> >>>>> > It's a lot easier to spend a hundred dollars on groceries than
> >>it >>> > used to be. I try to stay under thirty dollars per trip and
> >>it >>> > seems to require a little more creativity every month.
> >>> > >
> >>>>> $30 would only buy maybe one meal here.
> >>> >
> >>> > No way, Julie. I also spend about $30 per week or a little bit
> >>> > more. That's just for me though. There's no way you are
> spending >>> > $30 per MEAL for your family of 3 that don't like most
> foods. >>> >
> >>> > G.
> > > >
> >>> True Gary. I spend a little less than you per person but with 3
> of >>> us, we can make more use of sales and I am in what is
> considered a >>> fairly cheaper food area.
> >>> Carol
> > >
> > > I spent about $30 a week on just myself back in the 1980's. And I
> > > dined out a lot. Groceries are not cheap here! I probably spend
> > > about $300 a week, no counting restaurant meals but that's hard to
> > > tell because some things I buy like flour, black pepper or olive
> > > oil would certainly last far more than a week. I also stock up
> > > on canned things, and I buy paper products, cleaning supplies,
> > > magazines, books, cat things and some cosmetics. So not all food.
> >
> > That you spend more, doesnt mean you are spending wisely.
>
> Nor does it mean that I don't. I am no cheapskate! I do get the
> Rosarita refried beans for 80 cents a can. That price probably beats
> dried beans since I am not having to add seasonings or cook them.
> But I also buy expensive olives sometimes, just because I want them.
> And I am grateful that I can. There was a time when I couldn't buy
> any kind of olives!
Julie, some of us shop less often to it's easy to average it out. I
tend to a big trip every 6 weeks. I run about 500$ and split that
down, it's 27$ a week per person. That happens to include toilet
paper, laundry detergent, and sundry things like shampoos.
The actual food would be about 400$. I make small ancillary trips for
fresh veggies, buttermilk and such at the 2 week and 4 week point.
Those cost 20-30$ or so. That works out as 25$ a week here per person
but don't worry, the other 5$ per person per week finds a home with
some sort of takeout.
>
> Tonight's dinner is pizza and salad. Yes, I did buy a bag of mixed
> greens just because that is likely the only salad we'll eat this
> week. It was just enough for three. I added toppings based on what
> people like. Black olives, plum tomatoes, celery, red pepper, red
> onion. Would have been cucumber but the last little piece had gone
> mushy.
>
> Whole wheat pizza crust made from scratch. I did purchase the sauce.
> Yes, I know I could have made it but stuff came up, and husband
> wanted to eat right away so I just bought sauce when I went to the
> store. Expensive sauce. Not the most expensive I have bought but it
> was $4.99 for the two pizzas. Theirs has a combination of Western
> Family (cheap) mozzarella and a small amount of leftover medium
> priced, mixed Italian cheeses and some very expensive, uncured
> pepperoni. Mine has Daiya (dairy free) cheese, red onion, fresh
> tomato slices and pine nuts.
I use the weekends and make pizza sauce that is better than the jar.
If you used the whole 4.99 jar on just 2 pizzas, theyd be swimming in
sauce so much you'd have to eat it with a spoon..
At the most sloppy pizza, you'd get 4 to 6 pizzas from that jar. Me, I
take 1.50 (BOGO) worth of 28 oz cans, spice and reduce them for a
really better sauce than I can buy. I start with 48 oz there and reduce
to about 32 and make some spagetti with 12 oz of it then reduce the
rest to a serious thick pizza sauce that peaks when stirred and use
that for pizza. For about 1.70 (includes price of spices) I get 4
pizzas and a big pot of spagetti.
Lets add 45cents for the 2 pizzas dough, 30 cents worth of pasta for
the spagetti. 2.45. Bell peppers, 2 for 1.26. An onion, .15 bought
in bags, sliced pepperoni at 3.69 a bag covers 6 pizzas (really more
but we'll pretend) so add 1.23. You are at 5.09 cents. Each pizza
feeds 3 and the spagetti has 6 servings. 12 servings total. 42 cents
a serving. Plenty of room to add some meatballs or whatever else like
cheese to the pizza. 2 cups grated cheese here commonly on sale 3 for
5$ for example which is 1.66 a bag and you need 1 cup per pizza for an
extra 83 cents a pizza but that gets split 3 ways for a 27cent cost per
serving per person.
Pizza is now at 69 cents a serving.
If you noticed, I cheated, See I added money for 4 pizzas and would
have had leftover pizza fixings there. Specifically, sauce.
> I looked at potato prices. The only one I remember was for the bulk
> russets at 98 cents per pound. I did not buy any. I did buy black
> grapes and cherries. Cherries were $9.98 per pound. I only bought
> them because husband ripped through the last bag that I got in no
> time flat. I prefer to buy food that they will eat and not have to
> throw things out.
Nothing wrong with that Julie but bulk potatoes are always a good thing
to have about. I have a potato bin that will hold 8 lbs with room to
spare and it has a compartment to hold onions (3lb bag is just right).
> I do like to save money on many things. However there are other
> things where I prefer to buy really good stuff. One of those things
> is meat. I don't see too much difference with canned beans but when
> it comes to the refried, there were a few I did not like at all
> because they were runny. I don't see much difference with most
> canned vegetables. Tomatoes can be an exception. I do think when it
> comes to some tomato products, some are superior but that's not
> always what I buy.
Red-gold brand tomatoes are really good and lower in sodium. Furmanos
works for me very well.
Meantime, we cooked up 8 pork loin (boneless) 1 inch thick steaks, 3
lbs wahoo (Don catches this of the coast of mexico and we have it
professionally cleaned and frozen then shipped back), and i am about to
start a chicken soup from a 3lb chicken in the crockpot. I won't
detail the cost this time but it works out to about 47cents a 1 cup
hearty serving.
If wondering on the fish, when you add the cost for the fishing trip,
cost of tickets and hotel, and professional cleaning, packing and
shipping, the fish is 2.41lb. Professionally packed and shipped, it
will last for 2 years.
The point isnt that you are 'wrong' so much as not looking at it right
for savings I think.
Carol
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Julie Bove
May 25, 2015, 12:32:59 PM5/25/15
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"Cindy Hamilton" <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:211cc4b3-e565-475a...@googlegroups.com...
> On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 9:08:01 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Not only that but time is money.
>
> Time is money only if you have a job.
Not really. I get paid a small sum to take surveys. That's not really a
>
>> Not only that but time is money.
>
> Time is money only if you have a job.
job and they are very sporadic. Sometimes I get a phone call with someone
wanting me to take a survey. I decline those.
Julie Bove
May 25, 2015, 12:34:00 PM5/25/15
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news:8oydnSTC8clUpP7I...@giganews.com...
Some states are trying to do just that.
Julie Bove
May 25, 2015, 12:46:43 PM5/25/15
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Every 6 weeks? I would have nowhere to store that much food!
here.
Occurred to me later that I should have bought another jar because I like to
dip my pizza in it as well.
As I said... I didn't have time to reduce a sauce. And we don't often eat
spaghetti. That is not planned at all in the coming week so didn't need any
more sauce. None of us are big on pasta.
The slices were huge! I had to seriously overlap them to get it all to fit
on the one pizza. I won't eat the stuff. Okay. I assume that your family
likes spaghetti. That isn't the case here. Once in a while I will eat it
myself but the others won't usually willingly eat it. I think I made too
much pasta over the years and we all got burned out on it. Husband will eat
meatballs. Daughter won't and I can't. Cheese is rarely ever that cheap
here. More like $3 a bag when on sale and that's for the store brand.
would surely go bad before they were eaten.
them so I rarely make them. Learned to buy as needed or they will sprout.
bacon. The others aren't much into pork. They will eat a chop or ham once
or twice a year but not loin.
water. We just don't eat the stuff. And he shouldn't eat much due to the
gout.
storing food. I have to store the bulk of my canned goods in the garage. I
can not put anything out there that animals might get into. I have to put
things like pretzels, chips and cereal in the dining room. None of my
cupboards are big enough to accommodate it except for very small boxes of
cereal.
>
> The actual food would be about 400$. I make small ancillary trips for
> fresh veggies, buttermilk and such at the 2 week and 4 week point.
> Those cost 20-30$ or so. That works out as 25$ a week here per person
> but don't worry, the other 5$ per person per week finds a home with
> some sort of takeout.
And I'm sure that the cost of living is much less where you are than it is
> The actual food would be about 400$. I make small ancillary trips for
> fresh veggies, buttermilk and such at the 2 week and 4 week point.
> Those cost 20-30$ or so. That works out as 25$ a week here per person
> but don't worry, the other 5$ per person per week finds a home with
> some sort of takeout.
here.
>
>>
>> Tonight's dinner is pizza and salad. Yes, I did buy a bag of mixed
>> greens just because that is likely the only salad we'll eat this
>> week. It was just enough for three. I added toppings based on what
>> people like. Black olives, plum tomatoes, celery, red pepper, red
>> onion. Would have been cucumber but the last little piece had gone
>> mushy.
>>
>> Whole wheat pizza crust made from scratch. I did purchase the sauce.
>> Yes, I know I could have made it but stuff came up, and husband
>> wanted to eat right away so I just bought sauce when I went to the
>> store. Expensive sauce. Not the most expensive I have bought but it
>> was $4.99 for the two pizzas. Theirs has a combination of Western
>> Family (cheap) mozzarella and a small amount of leftover medium
>> priced, mixed Italian cheeses and some very expensive, uncured
>> pepperoni. Mine has Daiya (dairy free) cheese, red onion, fresh
>> tomato slices and pine nuts.
>
> I use the weekends and make pizza sauce that is better than the jar.
> If you used the whole 4.99 jar on just 2 pizzas, theyd be swimming in
> sauce so much you'd have to eat it with a spoon..
Not true at all. The jar was small. I like a lot of sauce. They don't.
>>
>> Tonight's dinner is pizza and salad. Yes, I did buy a bag of mixed
>> greens just because that is likely the only salad we'll eat this
>> week. It was just enough for three. I added toppings based on what
>> people like. Black olives, plum tomatoes, celery, red pepper, red
>> onion. Would have been cucumber but the last little piece had gone
>> mushy.
>>
>> Whole wheat pizza crust made from scratch. I did purchase the sauce.
>> Yes, I know I could have made it but stuff came up, and husband
>> wanted to eat right away so I just bought sauce when I went to the
>> store. Expensive sauce. Not the most expensive I have bought but it
>> was $4.99 for the two pizzas. Theirs has a combination of Western
>> Family (cheap) mozzarella and a small amount of leftover medium
>> priced, mixed Italian cheeses and some very expensive, uncured
>> pepperoni. Mine has Daiya (dairy free) cheese, red onion, fresh
>> tomato slices and pine nuts.
>
> I use the weekends and make pizza sauce that is better than the jar.
> If you used the whole 4.99 jar on just 2 pizzas, theyd be swimming in
> sauce so much you'd have to eat it with a spoon..
Occurred to me later that I should have bought another jar because I like to
dip my pizza in it as well.
>
> At the most sloppy pizza, you'd get 4 to 6 pizzas from that jar. Me, I
> take 1.50 (BOGO) worth of 28 oz cans, spice and reduce them for a
> really better sauce than I can buy. I start with 48 oz there and reduce
> to about 32 and make some spagetti with 12 oz of it then reduce the
> rest to a serious thick pizza sauce that peaks when stirred and use
> that for pizza. For about 1.70 (includes price of spices) I get 4
> pizzas and a big pot of spagetti.
Nope. This jar wasn't anywhere near that big. It was the San Marzano kind.
> At the most sloppy pizza, you'd get 4 to 6 pizzas from that jar. Me, I
> take 1.50 (BOGO) worth of 28 oz cans, spice and reduce them for a
> really better sauce than I can buy. I start with 48 oz there and reduce
> to about 32 and make some spagetti with 12 oz of it then reduce the
> rest to a serious thick pizza sauce that peaks when stirred and use
> that for pizza. For about 1.70 (includes price of spices) I get 4
> pizzas and a big pot of spagetti.
As I said... I didn't have time to reduce a sauce. And we don't often eat
spaghetti. That is not planned at all in the coming week so didn't need any
more sauce. None of us are big on pasta.
>
> Lets add 45cents for the 2 pizzas dough, 30 cents worth of pasta for
> the spagetti. 2.45. Bell peppers, 2 for 1.26. An onion, .15 bought
> in bags, sliced pepperoni at 3.69 a bag covers 6 pizzas (really more
> but we'll pretend) so add 1.23. You are at 5.09 cents. Each pizza
> feeds 3 and the spagetti has 6 servings. 12 servings total. 42 cents
> a serving. Plenty of room to add some meatballs or whatever else like
> cheese to the pizza. 2 cups grated cheese here commonly on sale 3 for
> 5$ for example which is 1.66 a bag and you need 1 cup per pizza for an
> extra 83 cents a pizza but that gets split 3 ways for a 27cent cost per
> serving per person.
My pepperoni was uncured and cost far more than that. I think it was $8.99.
> Lets add 45cents for the 2 pizzas dough, 30 cents worth of pasta for
> the spagetti. 2.45. Bell peppers, 2 for 1.26. An onion, .15 bought
> in bags, sliced pepperoni at 3.69 a bag covers 6 pizzas (really more
> but we'll pretend) so add 1.23. You are at 5.09 cents. Each pizza
> feeds 3 and the spagetti has 6 servings. 12 servings total. 42 cents
> a serving. Plenty of room to add some meatballs or whatever else like
> cheese to the pizza. 2 cups grated cheese here commonly on sale 3 for
> 5$ for example which is 1.66 a bag and you need 1 cup per pizza for an
> extra 83 cents a pizza but that gets split 3 ways for a 27cent cost per
> serving per person.
The slices were huge! I had to seriously overlap them to get it all to fit
on the one pizza. I won't eat the stuff. Okay. I assume that your family
likes spaghetti. That isn't the case here. Once in a while I will eat it
myself but the others won't usually willingly eat it. I think I made too
much pasta over the years and we all got burned out on it. Husband will eat
meatballs. Daughter won't and I can't. Cheese is rarely ever that cheap
here. More like $3 a bag when on sale and that's for the store brand.
>
> Pizza is now at 69 cents a serving.
>
> If you noticed, I cheated, See I added money for 4 pizzas and would
> have had leftover pizza fixings there. Specifically, sauce.
Lovely. But I couldn't do that. No place to put the other pizzas and they
> Pizza is now at 69 cents a serving.
>
> If you noticed, I cheated, See I added money for 4 pizzas and would
> have had leftover pizza fixings there. Specifically, sauce.
would surely go bad before they were eaten.
>
>
>> I looked at potato prices. The only one I remember was for the bulk
>> russets at 98 cents per pound. I did not buy any. I did buy black
>> grapes and cherries. Cherries were $9.98 per pound. I only bought
>> them because husband ripped through the last bag that I got in no
>> time flat. I prefer to buy food that they will eat and not have to
>> throw things out.
>
> Nothing wrong with that Julie but bulk potatoes are always a good thing
> to have about. I have a potato bin that will hold 8 lbs with room to
> spare and it has a compartment to hold onions (3lb bag is just right).
I have a bin too but I can not eat potatoes and the others aren't big into
>
>> I looked at potato prices. The only one I remember was for the bulk
>> russets at 98 cents per pound. I did not buy any. I did buy black
>> grapes and cherries. Cherries were $9.98 per pound. I only bought
>> them because husband ripped through the last bag that I got in no
>> time flat. I prefer to buy food that they will eat and not have to
>> throw things out.
>
> Nothing wrong with that Julie but bulk potatoes are always a good thing
> to have about. I have a potato bin that will hold 8 lbs with room to
> spare and it has a compartment to hold onions (3lb bag is just right).
them so I rarely make them. Learned to buy as needed or they will sprout.
>
>
>> I do like to save money on many things. However there are other
>> things where I prefer to buy really good stuff. One of those things
>> is meat. I don't see too much difference with canned beans but when
>> it comes to the refried, there were a few I did not like at all
>> because they were runny. I don't see much difference with most
>> canned vegetables. Tomatoes can be an exception. I do think when it
>> comes to some tomato products, some are superior but that's not
>> always what I buy.
>
> Red-gold brand tomatoes are really good and lower in sodium. Furmanos
> works for me very well.
I have not seen either brand here. I often buy the store brand.
>
>> I do like to save money on many things. However there are other
>> things where I prefer to buy really good stuff. One of those things
>> is meat. I don't see too much difference with canned beans but when
>> it comes to the refried, there were a few I did not like at all
>> because they were runny. I don't see much difference with most
>> canned vegetables. Tomatoes can be an exception. I do think when it
>> comes to some tomato products, some are superior but that's not
>> always what I buy.
>
> Red-gold brand tomatoes are really good and lower in sodium. Furmanos
> works for me very well.
>
> Meantime, we cooked up 8 pork loin (boneless) 1 inch thick steaks, 3
> lbs wahoo (Don catches this of the coast of mexico and we have it
> professionally cleaned and frozen then shipped back), and i am about to
> start a chicken soup from a 3lb chicken in the crockpot. I won't
> detail the cost this time but it works out to about 47cents a 1 cup
> hearty serving.
Okay. Pork loin will not get eaten here. Only pork I eat is really crispy
> Meantime, we cooked up 8 pork loin (boneless) 1 inch thick steaks, 3
> lbs wahoo (Don catches this of the coast of mexico and we have it
> professionally cleaned and frozen then shipped back), and i am about to
> start a chicken soup from a 3lb chicken in the crockpot. I won't
> detail the cost this time but it works out to about 47cents a 1 cup
> hearty serving.
bacon. The others aren't much into pork. They will eat a chop or ham once
or twice a year but not loin.
>
> If wondering on the fish, when you add the cost for the fishing trip,
> cost of tickets and hotel, and professional cleaning, packing and
> shipping, the fish is 2.41lb. Professionally packed and shipped, it
> will last for 2 years.
I'm sure that my husband could get fish for cheap. He works right on the
> If wondering on the fish, when you add the cost for the fishing trip,
> cost of tickets and hotel, and professional cleaning, packing and
> shipping, the fish is 2.41lb. Professionally packed and shipped, it
> will last for 2 years.
water. We just don't eat the stuff. And he shouldn't eat much due to the
gout.
>
> The point isnt that you are 'wrong' so much as not looking at it right
> for savings I think.
> Carol
I could never do what you do. I have no pantry and not a lot of room for
> The point isnt that you are 'wrong' so much as not looking at it right
> for savings I think.
> Carol
storing food. I have to store the bulk of my canned goods in the garage. I
can not put anything out there that animals might get into. I have to put
things like pretzels, chips and cereal in the dining room. None of my
cupboards are big enough to accommodate it except for very small boxes of
cereal.
cshenk
May 25, 2015, 12:49:00 PM5/25/15
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Christopher Helms wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 3:08:44 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> > Brooklyn1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > > cats wouldn't eat. I think the people who claim they can eat all
> > > week on $30 don't eat very well, or they're lousy at math, or
> > > they lie. Maybe some people don't include condiments, snacks,
> > > fresh fruit and vegetables, beverages, and they live on $1/lb
> > > tube steak... yes there are $1/lb 'meat' tube steaks in the flyer
> > > this week, one can only imagine. Top round beef (not a pricey
> > > cut) runs minimally $5/lb nowadays, feeding two adults a four
> > > pound roast lasts three days here, plus there are salads, sides,
> > > snacks, beverages, etc. A 4 pound roast barely yields two pounds
> > > of edible meat, I don't consider that a lot for six adult
> > > meals... and that's just dinner, what about food for th erest of
> > > the day? I think those with small grocery bills don't do much
> > > cooking, they eat out and do take out a lot. I know people who
> > > don't even have coffee in their house, not even a coffee pot,
> > > they buy lots of coffee out but don't include that in their
> > > grocery bill, not the donuts either... they can drop $30 a week
> > > at Dunkin Donuts easy, that's $30 per person. I shop often, I've
> > > yet to see anyone with a weeks worth of groceries in their cart
> > > for $30, what do your think a pound of bacon, a dozen eggs, a
> > > loaf of bread, a jar of grape jelly, a jar of peanut butter, a
> > > gallon of milk, and three pounds of apples costs, about $30 and
> > > that's not eating very well. The way many here drool over bacon,
> > > fresh seafood, real maple syrup, premium ice cream, polish
> > > butcher kielbasa, stinkin' lamb, ribeyes and the like no way can
> > > they get by on less than $30 a day. I won't mention how many are
> > > always boasting about their $30+ bottles of wine... I buy Crystal
> > > Palace vodka and diet Coke and still my booze bill runs $20/wk.
> >
> > Most people who use the roughly 30$ a week rule are buying staples
> > and cooking them for real.
>
>
> I can't speak for anyone else, but I try to make each $30 trip last
> as long as possible, which is never for an entire week. It's just a
> general rule I like to go by.
Nothing wrong with that!
Because we have a house and a spare chest freezer, we have storage room
for maximum sales storage and we have a vacuum sealer so we don't waste
meat that needed better sealing for a longer storage.
I also use coupons to good effect (not 'oh I have a coupon, have to get
that') by checking the alternative items to see if it will save me some
or just give me a chance to try something new at a reasonable cost.
I suspect my type of spending is easier to do with storage room so that
'10$ for 10 cans' type works out. I do that if it is something we know
we will use up in 6 months. It's usually something like 30% off when
they do those.
I have a stack of 12 pack pepsi because Don is brand specific on that.
It came up as buy 2, get 3 free and limit 10. I went 3 days in a row
and got 30 at 1.96 a 12pack. That will cover him for 3 a day a day for
6 months. Thats really something you can only do though with
significant storage room.
--
> On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 3:08:44 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> > Brooklyn1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > On Sun, 24 May 2015 08:52:54 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Julie Bove wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> "Christopher Helms" wrote:
> > > >> > It's a lot easier to spend a hundred dollars on groceries
> > > than it used to >> > be. I try to stay under thirty dollars per
> > > trip and it seems to require a >> > little more creativity every
> > > month. >>
> > > >> $30 would only buy maybe one meal here.
> > > >
> > > > No way, Julie. I also spend about $30 per week or a little bit
> > > > more. That's just for me though. There's no way you are
> > > > spending $30 per MEAL for your family of 3 that don't like most
> > > > foods.
> > >
> > > I can get 2-3 days for $30 but that's really scrimping, and my
> > > On Sun, 24 May 2015 08:52:54 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Julie Bove wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> "Christopher Helms" wrote:
> > > >> > It's a lot easier to spend a hundred dollars on groceries
> > > than it used to >> > be. I try to stay under thirty dollars per
> > > trip and it seems to require a >> > little more creativity every
> > > month. >>
> > > >> $30 would only buy maybe one meal here.
> > > >
> > > > No way, Julie. I also spend about $30 per week or a little bit
> > > > more. That's just for me though. There's no way you are
> > > > spending $30 per MEAL for your family of 3 that don't like most
> > > > foods.
> > >
> > > cats wouldn't eat. I think the people who claim they can eat all
> > > week on $30 don't eat very well, or they're lousy at math, or
> > > they lie. Maybe some people don't include condiments, snacks,
> > > fresh fruit and vegetables, beverages, and they live on $1/lb
> > > tube steak... yes there are $1/lb 'meat' tube steaks in the flyer
> > > this week, one can only imagine. Top round beef (not a pricey
> > > cut) runs minimally $5/lb nowadays, feeding two adults a four
> > > pound roast lasts three days here, plus there are salads, sides,
> > > snacks, beverages, etc. A 4 pound roast barely yields two pounds
> > > of edible meat, I don't consider that a lot for six adult
> > > meals... and that's just dinner, what about food for th erest of
> > > the day? I think those with small grocery bills don't do much
> > > cooking, they eat out and do take out a lot. I know people who
> > > don't even have coffee in their house, not even a coffee pot,
> > > they buy lots of coffee out but don't include that in their
> > > grocery bill, not the donuts either... they can drop $30 a week
> > > at Dunkin Donuts easy, that's $30 per person. I shop often, I've
> > > yet to see anyone with a weeks worth of groceries in their cart
> > > for $30, what do your think a pound of bacon, a dozen eggs, a
> > > loaf of bread, a jar of grape jelly, a jar of peanut butter, a
> > > gallon of milk, and three pounds of apples costs, about $30 and
> > > that's not eating very well. The way many here drool over bacon,
> > > fresh seafood, real maple syrup, premium ice cream, polish
> > > butcher kielbasa, stinkin' lamb, ribeyes and the like no way can
> > > they get by on less than $30 a day. I won't mention how many are
> > > always boasting about their $30+ bottles of wine... I buy Crystal
> > > Palace vodka and diet Coke and still my booze bill runs $20/wk.
> > > Only way people can grocerey shop for $30/wk is they ain't
> > > mentioning their food stamps.
> >
> > Oh Sheldon lay off.
> > > mentioning their food stamps.
> >
> >
> > Most people who use the roughly 30$ a week rule are buying staples
> > and cooking them for real.
>
>
> I can't speak for anyone else, but I try to make each $30 trip last
> as long as possible, which is never for an entire week. It's just a
> general rule I like to go by.
Nothing wrong with that!
Because we have a house and a spare chest freezer, we have storage room
for maximum sales storage and we have a vacuum sealer so we don't waste
meat that needed better sealing for a longer storage.
I also use coupons to good effect (not 'oh I have a coupon, have to get
that') by checking the alternative items to see if it will save me some
or just give me a chance to try something new at a reasonable cost.
I suspect my type of spending is easier to do with storage room so that
'10$ for 10 cans' type works out. I do that if it is something we know
we will use up in 6 months. It's usually something like 30% off when
they do those.
I have a stack of 12 pack pepsi because Don is brand specific on that.
It came up as buy 2, get 3 free and limit 10. I went 3 days in a row
and got 30 at 1.96 a 12pack. That will cover him for 3 a day a day for
6 months. Thats really something you can only do though with
significant storage room.
--
Janet B
May 25, 2015, 12:53:15 PM5/25/15
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On Mon, 25 May 2015 01:03:31 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.net> wrote:
>On 5/25/2015 12:52 AM, The Other Guy wrote:
>>>> On 5/24/2015 9:07 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not only that but time is money. Takes a long time to make bread if you
>>>>> don't have the machine and... People who quote prices like that likely
>>>>> aren't factoring in the price of electricity or water and soap to clean
>>>>> the dishes and pans.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Very valid point. That store bought bread is also more costly than the
>>>> sticker price when you factor in the cost of operating your vehicle and
>>>> the time to go get it.
>>>
>>> If you have to do that.
>>
>> And you HAVE to go to the store for the ingredients to make bread if
>> that's what you want to do.
>>
>> I don't drive, so I take a bus, same price if I get bread or a list of
>> things to make bread.
>>
>
>Buy a 10 lb bag of flour and some years and you are set for weeks.
>
>Everything has a cost, but some can be moderated.
A 50 pound bag is a lot cheaper and can be used up in short time if
you bake bread weekly. Probably about $19.
Janet US
>On 5/25/2015 12:52 AM, The Other Guy wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 21:09:07 -0700, "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote in message
>>> news:YZqdnSi2BJzWAP_I...@giganews.com...
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote in message
>>>> On 5/24/2015 9:07 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not only that but time is money. Takes a long time to make bread if you
>>>>> don't have the machine and... People who quote prices like that likely
>>>>> aren't factoring in the price of electricity or water and soap to clean
>>>>> the dishes and pans.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Very valid point. That store bought bread is also more costly than the
>>>> sticker price when you factor in the cost of operating your vehicle and
>>>> the time to go get it.
>>>
>>> If you have to do that.
>>
>> And you HAVE to go to the store for the ingredients to make bread if
>> that's what you want to do.
>>
>> I don't drive, so I take a bus, same price if I get bread or a list of
>> things to make bread.
>>
>
>Buy a 10 lb bag of flour and some years and you are set for weeks.
>
>Everything has a cost, but some can be moderated.
A 50 pound bag is a lot cheaper and can be used up in short time if
you bake bread weekly. Probably about $19.
Janet US
cshenk
May 25, 2015, 12:54:59 PM5/25/15
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Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>
> "The Other Guy" <Knews...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:h4n4mat6vian57rns...@4ax.com... >On Sun, 24 May
> 2015 16:37:05 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > The Other Guy wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > >
> >>>On Sun, 24 May 2015 15:08:41 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net>
> wrote:
> > > >
> >>>> We do indeed spend wisely and fit the 30$ range per person. I
> hit >>>> 100$ a month per person usually and yes, we have steak,
> shrimp, and >>>> other goodies.
> > > >
> > > > The cheapest steak here is $6 a pound, and an edible steak is
> > > > substantially more. I don't eat shrimp so can't say on that,
> > > > but a loaf of decent (NOT fancy) bread is $5 when not on sale.
> > > > Milk is $6 a half gallon. Potatoes were on sale today at 5
> > > > pounds for $5. Green seedless grapes were $3 a pound, and
> > > > tomatoes were $2.50 a pound on sale, usually $3 recently.
> > >
> > > Learn to cook. You can make that 5$ bread for 1.47 or a basic
> > > simple one for as little as 45cents. It takes 5 minutes of your
> > > time to do it with a 35$ breadmachine that lasts for 4-5 years of
> > > use 3 times a week.
> >
> > I don't HAVE a bread machine, I don't have ROOM for a bread machine,
> > and I don't WANT to make my own bread. Plus it takes more than just
> > flour to make bread, and all the ingredients need to be stored
> > somewhere.
>
> Not only that but time is money. Takes a long time to make bread if
> you don't have the machine and... People who quote prices like that
> likely aren't factoring in the price of electricity or water and soap
> to clean the dishes and pans.
Time isnt money if you do not work. I do work and even I can spend 5
> Not only that but time is money. Takes a long time to make bread if
> you don't have the machine and... People who quote prices like that
> likely aren't factoring in the price of electricity or water and soap
> to clean the dishes and pans.
minutes making up good bread as an example.
cshenk
May 25, 2015, 2:46:22 PM5/25/15
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> news:fZGdndRmgrUe1v7I...@giganews.com...
shelving for te garage and when we converted that to a family room,
made room for the shelving.
The key point is if you only get what you need that week, you will pay
double in the long run.
> > The actual food would be about 400$. I make small ancillary trips
> > for fresh veggies, buttermilk and such at the 2 week and 4 week
> > point. Those cost 20-30$ or so. That works out as 25$ a week here
> > per person but don't worry, the other 5$ per person per week finds
> > a home with some sort of takeout.
>
> And I'm sure that the cost of living is much less where you are than
> it is here.
That is irrelevant. Cost of real food is mo more than 10% off of yours
and we are talking food costs.
> > > Tonight's dinner is pizza and salad. Yes, I did buy a bag of
> > > mixed greens just because that is likely the only salad we'll eat
> > > this week. It was just enough for three. I added toppings based
> > > on what people like. Black olives, plum tomatoes, celery, red
> > > pepper, red onion. Would have been cucumber but the last little
> > > piece had gone mushy.
> > >
> > > Whole wheat pizza crust made from scratch. I did purchase the
> > > sauce. Yes, I know I could have made it but stuff came up, and
> > > husband wanted to eat right away so I just bought sauce when I
> > > went to the store. Expensive sauce. Not the most expensive I
> > > have bought but it was $4.99 for the two pizzas. Theirs has a
> > > combination of Western Family (cheap) mozzarella and a small
> > > amount of leftover medium priced, mixed Italian cheeses and some
> > > very expensive, uncured pepperoni. Mine has Daiya (dairy free)
> > > cheese, red onion, fresh tomato slices and pine nuts.
> >
> > I use the weekends and make pizza sauce that is better than the jar.
> > If you used the whole 4.99 jar on just 2 pizzas, theyd be swimming
> > in sauce so much you'd have to eat it with a spoon..
>
> Not true at all. The jar was small. I like a lot of sauce. They
> don't. Occurred to me later that I should have bought another jar
> because I like to dip my pizza in it as well.
Seriously? Ok, to make 16oz sauce, add 35 cents.
> >
> > At the most sloppy pizza, you'd get 4 to 6 pizzas from that jar.
> > Me, I take 1.50 (BOGO) worth of 28 oz cans, spice and reduce them
> > for a really better sauce than I can buy. I start with 48 oz there
> > and reduce to about 32 and make some spagetti with 12 oz of it then
> > reduce the rest to a serious thick pizza sauce that peaks when
> > stirred and use that for pizza. For about 1.70 (includes price of
> > spices) I get 4 pizzas and a big pot of spagetti.
>
> Nope. This jar wasn't anywhere near that big. It was the San
> Marzano kind. As I said... I didn't have time to reduce a sauce.
> And we don't often eat spaghetti. That is not planned at all in the
> coming week so didn't need any more sauce. None of us are big on
> pasta.
Ok above you needed more sauce and here you don't and you do not add a
jar size. How about come back when you want to talk about cooking or
saving money because I am over this thread.
Enjoy your excuses and do not ask for help again on how to cut the
bills since you do not even remotely try to listen.
--
> >>> That you spend more, doesnt mean you are spending wisely.
> > >
> > > Nor does it mean that I don't. I am no cheapskate! I do get the
> > > Rosarita refried beans for 80 cents a can. That price probably
> > > beats dried beans since I am not having to add seasonings or cook
> > > them. But I also buy expensive olives sometimes, just because I
> > > want them. And I am grateful that I can. There was a time when
> > > I couldn't buy any kind of olives!
> >
> > Julie, some of us shop less often to it's easy to average it out. I
> > tend to a big trip every 6 weeks. I run about 500$ and split that
> > down, it's 27$ a week per person. That happens to include toilet
> > paper, laundry detergent, and sundry things like shampoos.
>
> Every 6 weeks? I would have nowhere to store that much food!
I thought you lived in a house? If so, yes you have room. We got
> > >
> > > Nor does it mean that I don't. I am no cheapskate! I do get the
> > > Rosarita refried beans for 80 cents a can. That price probably
> > > beats dried beans since I am not having to add seasonings or cook
> > > them. But I also buy expensive olives sometimes, just because I
> > > want them. And I am grateful that I can. There was a time when
> > > I couldn't buy any kind of olives!
> >
> > Julie, some of us shop less often to it's easy to average it out. I
> > tend to a big trip every 6 weeks. I run about 500$ and split that
> > down, it's 27$ a week per person. That happens to include toilet
> > paper, laundry detergent, and sundry things like shampoos.
>
> Every 6 weeks? I would have nowhere to store that much food!
shelving for te garage and when we converted that to a family room,
made room for the shelving.
The key point is if you only get what you need that week, you will pay
double in the long run.
> > The actual food would be about 400$. I make small ancillary trips
> > for fresh veggies, buttermilk and such at the 2 week and 4 week
> > point. Those cost 20-30$ or so. That works out as 25$ a week here
> > per person but don't worry, the other 5$ per person per week finds
> > a home with some sort of takeout.
>
> And I'm sure that the cost of living is much less where you are than
> it is here.
and we are talking food costs.
> > > Tonight's dinner is pizza and salad. Yes, I did buy a bag of
> > > mixed greens just because that is likely the only salad we'll eat
> > > this week. It was just enough for three. I added toppings based
> > > on what people like. Black olives, plum tomatoes, celery, red
> > > pepper, red onion. Would have been cucumber but the last little
> > > piece had gone mushy.
> > >
> > > Whole wheat pizza crust made from scratch. I did purchase the
> > > sauce. Yes, I know I could have made it but stuff came up, and
> > > husband wanted to eat right away so I just bought sauce when I
> > > went to the store. Expensive sauce. Not the most expensive I
> > > have bought but it was $4.99 for the two pizzas. Theirs has a
> > > combination of Western Family (cheap) mozzarella and a small
> > > amount of leftover medium priced, mixed Italian cheeses and some
> > > very expensive, uncured pepperoni. Mine has Daiya (dairy free)
> > > cheese, red onion, fresh tomato slices and pine nuts.
> >
> > I use the weekends and make pizza sauce that is better than the jar.
> > If you used the whole 4.99 jar on just 2 pizzas, theyd be swimming
> > in sauce so much you'd have to eat it with a spoon..
>
> Not true at all. The jar was small. I like a lot of sauce. They
> don't. Occurred to me later that I should have bought another jar
> because I like to dip my pizza in it as well.
> >
> > At the most sloppy pizza, you'd get 4 to 6 pizzas from that jar.
> > Me, I take 1.50 (BOGO) worth of 28 oz cans, spice and reduce them
> > for a really better sauce than I can buy. I start with 48 oz there
> > and reduce to about 32 and make some spagetti with 12 oz of it then
> > reduce the rest to a serious thick pizza sauce that peaks when
> > stirred and use that for pizza. For about 1.70 (includes price of
> > spices) I get 4 pizzas and a big pot of spagetti.
>
> Nope. This jar wasn't anywhere near that big. It was the San
> Marzano kind. As I said... I didn't have time to reduce a sauce.
> And we don't often eat spaghetti. That is not planned at all in the
> coming week so didn't need any more sauce. None of us are big on
> pasta.
jar size. How about come back when you want to talk about cooking or
saving money because I am over this thread.
bills since you do not even remotely try to listen.
--
cshenk
May 25, 2015, 2:58:14 PM5/25/15
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> news:LtudnTp8XM4y6f_I...@giganews.com...
> > > news:UN2dnYcbNJ5Usv_I...@giganews.com...
> > > I seriously doubt that. Or they are mostly eating beans and rice.
> > > The steak I bought was just over $10 and that's a meal for two. I
> > > also bought two packages of beef jerky. That's more than $30
> > > right there! What in the world could a person be eating if they
> > > claim to pay so little?
> >
> > REal food. Baked potatoes, steamed squash, home made cole slaw,
> > chicken soup made from a real chicken in a crock pot, pulled
> > southern BBQ pork, real bread, the list is endless.
>
> Pretty sure you would not be eating those things here. Not for $30 a
> week. Most people wouldn't be eating Southern BBQ pork here anyway.
Yes, we do. Souther BBQ pork is one of the least expensive meals you
can make.
> >>> The most expensive bread i know how to make is a 7 seed rye with
> >>> buttermilk. It costs 1.47 for a 2 lb loaf (translation, 14
> healthy >>> man sized rolls or 18 more regular ones). Now lets
> assume the >>> biggr ones your eyes always go for ok? 1.47/3=.49
> cents for the >>> whole lot per person. It is 10 cents a roll with 4
> rolls each and >>> 2 left over. My regular bread costs 75cents for 5
> cents a day of >>> bread each. My cheap bread costs 45cents. Same
> yield.
>
> Okay then. I haven't made bread in a while. If I were to make two
> loaves of bread with that flour it would have cost me $6 alone in
> flour and that flour was on sale. I also have no clue how big a 2
> pound loaf is. I never weighed my bread.
What crazy flour are you getting? Tiy'd have to spend 12$ a lb to
equal that cost.
Come back when you aren't in exxaguration mode extremeo.
Carol
> > > news:UN2dnYcbNJ5Usv_I...@giganews.com...
> > > The steak I bought was just over $10 and that's a meal for two. I
> > > also bought two packages of beef jerky. That's more than $30
> > > right there! What in the world could a person be eating if they
> > > claim to pay so little?
> >
> > REal food. Baked potatoes, steamed squash, home made cole slaw,
> > chicken soup made from a real chicken in a crock pot, pulled
> > southern BBQ pork, real bread, the list is endless.
>
> Pretty sure you would not be eating those things here. Not for $30 a
> week. Most people wouldn't be eating Southern BBQ pork here anyway.
Yes, we do. Souther BBQ pork is one of the least expensive meals you
can make.
> >>> The most expensive bread i know how to make is a 7 seed rye with
> >>> buttermilk. It costs 1.47 for a 2 lb loaf (translation, 14
> healthy >>> man sized rolls or 18 more regular ones). Now lets
> assume the >>> biggr ones your eyes always go for ok? 1.47/3=.49
> cents for the >>> whole lot per person. It is 10 cents a roll with 4
> rolls each and >>> 2 left over. My regular bread costs 75cents for 5
> cents a day of >>> bread each. My cheap bread costs 45cents. Same
> yield.
>
> Okay then. I haven't made bread in a while. If I were to make two
> loaves of bread with that flour it would have cost me $6 alone in
> flour and that flour was on sale. I also have no clue how big a 2
> pound loaf is. I never weighed my bread.
What crazy flour are you getting? Tiy'd have to spend 12$ a lb to
equal that cost.
Come back when you aren't in exxaguration mode extremeo.
Carol
cshenk
May 25, 2015, 3:14:46 PM5/25/15
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Janet B wrote in rec.food.cooking:
Yup. 5 lbs of flour yields 20 cups so if you multiply that out with 4
cups per large loaf, you get 50 loaves for 38cents each and the small
cost of a little sugar, salt and yeast.
--
cups per large loaf, you get 50 loaves for 38cents each and the small
cost of a little sugar, salt and yeast.
--
cshenk
May 25, 2015, 3:18:36 PM5/25/15
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The Other Guy wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 20:17:57 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Beans, rice, cheaper fresh veggies, and a hot dog a night of the
> > cheap sort would be 9$ a week. 9.45 if you added home made bread.
> > Not balanced at all but you'd make it for a time on it.
>
> An 8 pack of nasty cheap hotdogs would cost $4, good ones $5,
> why cheap out THAT much?
>
> And HOW healthy would a person be on THAT diet, after a month,
> or a year??
>
> Let alone, how HUNGRY?
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
>
> > Beans, rice, cheaper fresh veggies, and a hot dog a night of the
> > cheap sort would be 9$ a week. 9.45 if you added home made bread.
> > Not balanced at all but you'd make it for a time on it.
>
> An 8 pack of nasty cheap hotdogs would cost $4, good ones $5,
> why cheap out THAT much?
>
> And HOW healthy would a person be on THAT diet, after a month,
> or a year??
>
> Let alone, how HUNGRY?
>
>
>
>
>
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Trimming too much can get you in trouble. This time you trimmed a
reply where Julie said you had to eat cheap hot dogs to hit 30$ a month
per person and i showed, no that is more like 9$.
Look before you trim ok?
Carol
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Janet B
May 25, 2015, 4:36:35 PM5/25/15
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On Mon, 25 May 2015 11:48:56 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
snip
on name brand diced tomatoes cases -- BOGO and no limit :))) I had
eighteen cases at one time. We use an awful lot of canned tomatoes
and I can't can them for that price. After a couple of years they got
wise to me and the others I would meet in the tomato aisle and still
had BOGO but limit 2. Darn
Janet US
snip
>I have a stack of 12 pack pepsi because Don is brand specific on that.
>It came up as buy 2, get 3 free and limit 10. I went 3 days in a row
>and got 30 at 1.96 a 12pack. That will cover him for 3 a day a day for
>6 months. Thats really something you can only do though with
>significant storage room.
Snork! For a while, every year, Costco would have this coupon special
>It came up as buy 2, get 3 free and limit 10. I went 3 days in a row
>and got 30 at 1.96 a 12pack. That will cover him for 3 a day a day for
>6 months. Thats really something you can only do though with
>significant storage room.
on name brand diced tomatoes cases -- BOGO and no limit :))) I had
eighteen cases at one time. We use an awful lot of canned tomatoes
and I can't can them for that price. After a couple of years they got
wise to me and the others I would meet in the tomato aisle and still
had BOGO but limit 2. Darn
Janet US
Doris Night
May 25, 2015, 5:10:45 PM5/25/15
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On Sun, 24 May 2015 15:31:09 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>"cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:VOednfy1U9cc2f_I...@giganews.com...
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>"cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> The Other Guy wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 15:08:41 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > We do indeed spend wisely and fit the 30$ range per person. I hit
>>> > 100$ a month per person usually and yes, we have steak, shrimp, and
>>> > other goodies.
>>>
>>> The cheapest steak here is $6 a pound, and an edible steak is
>>> substantially more. I don't eat shrimp so can't say on that,
>>> but a loaf of decent (NOT fancy) bread is $5 when not on sale.
>>> Milk is $6 a half gallon. Potatoes were on sale today at 5
>>> pounds for $5. Green seedless grapes were $3 a pound, and
>>> tomatoes were $2.50 a pound on sale, usually $3 recently.
>>
>> Learn to cook. You can make that 5$ bread for 1.47 or a basic simple
>> one for as little as 45cents. It takes 5 minutes of your time to do it
>> with a 35$ breadmachine that lasts for 4-5 years of use 3 times a week.
>>
>> You dont need to eat a huge 14oz steak every night. Learn to make side
>>>
>>> > We do indeed spend wisely and fit the 30$ range per person. I hit
>>> > 100$ a month per person usually and yes, we have steak, shrimp, and
>>> > other goodies.
>>>
>>> The cheapest steak here is $6 a pound, and an edible steak is
>>> substantially more. I don't eat shrimp so can't say on that,
>>> but a loaf of decent (NOT fancy) bread is $5 when not on sale.
>>> Milk is $6 a half gallon. Potatoes were on sale today at 5
>>> pounds for $5. Green seedless grapes were $3 a pound, and
>>> tomatoes were $2.50 a pound on sale, usually $3 recently.
>>
>> Learn to cook. You can make that 5$ bread for 1.47 or a basic simple
>> one for as little as 45cents. It takes 5 minutes of your time to do it
>> with a 35$ breadmachine that lasts for 4-5 years of use 3 times a week.
>>
>> dishes. Dunno why your milk is double the price at ours but it's 4$
>> gallon here. I dont know many adults who drink enough of it to get
>> gallon sizes.
>>
>> What the heck on your potato prices? Its 2.97 for 8lbs here. Maybe
>> look around a bit better?
>
>Holy crap! Potatoes aren't nearly that cheap there. I don't think I have
>> What the heck on your potato prices? Its 2.97 for 8lbs here. Maybe
>> look around a bit better?
>
>ever seen an 8 pound bag either.
I just saw potatoes for $1.97 for a 10lb bag (No Frills, Southeastern
Ontario). Didn't buy one because we didn't need any potatoes.
Doris
Julie Bove
May 25, 2015, 6:37:01 PM5/25/15
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news:BsKdnex-K4tm8P7I...@giganews.com...
house has a small kitchen, very small dining room, very small living room,
small bathroom, two tiny bedrooms, a family room, a pretty bit bedroom, a
stupidly huge bathroom, laundyroom and a thing that they call a garage, but
only because it has a garage type door. It is stuffed full of things that I
am storing. We also have a rather useless , 400 sq. ft. back house that
mainly husband uses. Would not be a convenient place to store food and if
we did, it could only be canned goods.
> The key point is if you only get what you need that week, you will pay
> double in the long run.
Nonsense! That makes no sense whatever.
not going to dig through the recycle. 14 oz. I did not go back for extra
sauce. I would have loved to have had some for dipping but... Oh well!
And I wish that you would be over this thread. You are being very
patronizing. You also can not tell me where and when I can post. And this
thread wasn't about saving money. It was about the high prices of the one
store.
Did I ask for help here? No. I did not. For some reason, just like
always, you assumed something that simply wasn't true. I don't want or need
to listen to you because of the way you speak to people. And it wasn't just
me! You did it to that other guy who is even older than me and been cooking
for longer. You just assume that we are stupid and need help.
You claim to have been in the military so you would *have* to know that food
prices and situations are different, depending on where you live. When I
lived in NY, I could get bell peppers for dirt cheap year round. Some other
veggies were super cheap too so we ate a lot of them. And for as much as I
love bell peppers they are never as cheap here nor were they when I lived in
CA. In fact they are often far more expensive. So we eat far less of them.
> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:fZGdndRmgrUe1v7I...@giganews.com...
>> >>> That you spend more, doesnt mean you are spending wisely.
>> > >
>> > > Nor does it mean that I don't. I am no cheapskate! I do get the
>> > > Rosarita refried beans for 80 cents a can. That price probably
>> > > beats dried beans since I am not having to add seasonings or cook
>> > > them. But I also buy expensive olives sometimes, just because I
>> > > want them. And I am grateful that I can. There was a time when
>> > > I couldn't buy any kind of olives!
>> >
>> > Julie, some of us shop less often to it's easy to average it out. I
>> > tend to a big trip every 6 weeks. I run about 500$ and split that
>> > down, it's 27$ a week per person. That happens to include toilet
>> > paper, laundry detergent, and sundry things like shampoos.
>>
>> Every 6 weeks? I would have nowhere to store that much food!
>
> I thought you lived in a house? If so, yes you have room. We got
> shelving for te garage and when we converted that to a family room,
> made room for the shelving.
I do live in a house, and no, I do not have room for that much food. This
>
>>
>> "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:fZGdndRmgrUe1v7I...@giganews.com...
>> >>> That you spend more, doesnt mean you are spending wisely.
>> > >
>> > > Nor does it mean that I don't. I am no cheapskate! I do get the
>> > > Rosarita refried beans for 80 cents a can. That price probably
>> > > beats dried beans since I am not having to add seasonings or cook
>> > > them. But I also buy expensive olives sometimes, just because I
>> > > want them. And I am grateful that I can. There was a time when
>> > > I couldn't buy any kind of olives!
>> >
>> > Julie, some of us shop less often to it's easy to average it out. I
>> > tend to a big trip every 6 weeks. I run about 500$ and split that
>> > down, it's 27$ a week per person. That happens to include toilet
>> > paper, laundry detergent, and sundry things like shampoos.
>>
>> Every 6 weeks? I would have nowhere to store that much food!
>
> I thought you lived in a house? If so, yes you have room. We got
> shelving for te garage and when we converted that to a family room,
> made room for the shelving.
house has a small kitchen, very small dining room, very small living room,
small bathroom, two tiny bedrooms, a family room, a pretty bit bedroom, a
stupidly huge bathroom, laundyroom and a thing that they call a garage, but
only because it has a garage type door. It is stuffed full of things that I
am storing. We also have a rather useless , 400 sq. ft. back house that
mainly husband uses. Would not be a convenient place to store food and if
we did, it could only be canned goods.
> The key point is if you only get what you need that week, you will pay
> double in the long run.
>
>> > The actual food would be about 400$. I make small ancillary trips
>> > for fresh veggies, buttermilk and such at the 2 week and 4 week
>> > point. Those cost 20-30$ or so. That works out as 25$ a week here
>> > per person but don't worry, the other 5$ per person per week finds
>> > a home with some sort of takeout.
>>
>> And I'm sure that the cost of living is much less where you are than
>> it is here.
>
> That is irrelevant. Cost of real food is mo more than 10% off of yours
> and we are talking food costs.
It is not irrelevant and I am certan that it is untrue.
>> > The actual food would be about 400$. I make small ancillary trips
>> > for fresh veggies, buttermilk and such at the 2 week and 4 week
>> > point. Those cost 20-30$ or so. That works out as 25$ a week here
>> > per person but don't worry, the other 5$ per person per week finds
>> > a home with some sort of takeout.
>>
>> And I'm sure that the cost of living is much less where you are than
>> it is here.
>
> That is irrelevant. Cost of real food is mo more than 10% off of yours
> and we are talking food costs.
>
>> > > Tonight's dinner is pizza and salad. Yes, I did buy a bag of
>> > > mixed greens just because that is likely the only salad we'll eat
>> > > this week. It was just enough for three. I added toppings based
>> > > on what people like. Black olives, plum tomatoes, celery, red
>> > > pepper, red onion. Would have been cucumber but the last little
>> > > piece had gone mushy.
>> > >
>> > > Whole wheat pizza crust made from scratch. I did purchase the
>> > > sauce. Yes, I know I could have made it but stuff came up, and
>> > > husband wanted to eat right away so I just bought sauce when I
>> > > went to the store. Expensive sauce. Not the most expensive I
>> > > have bought but it was $4.99 for the two pizzas. Theirs has a
>> > > combination of Western Family (cheap) mozzarella and a small
>> > > amount of leftover medium priced, mixed Italian cheeses and some
>> > > very expensive, uncured pepperoni. Mine has Daiya (dairy free)
>> > > cheese, red onion, fresh tomato slices and pine nuts.
>> >
>> > I use the weekends and make pizza sauce that is better than the jar.
>> > If you used the whole 4.99 jar on just 2 pizzas, theyd be swimming
>> > in sauce so much you'd have to eat it with a spoon..
>>
>> Not true at all. The jar was small. I like a lot of sauce. They
>> don't. Occurred to me later that I should have bought another jar
>> because I like to dip my pizza in it as well.
>
>
> Seriously? Ok, to make 16oz sauce, add 35 cents.
I was not going to make the sauce. Again, I am not just about cheap.
>> > > Tonight's dinner is pizza and salad. Yes, I did buy a bag of
>> > > mixed greens just because that is likely the only salad we'll eat
>> > > this week. It was just enough for three. I added toppings based
>> > > on what people like. Black olives, plum tomatoes, celery, red
>> > > pepper, red onion. Would have been cucumber but the last little
>> > > piece had gone mushy.
>> > >
>> > > Whole wheat pizza crust made from scratch. I did purchase the
>> > > sauce. Yes, I know I could have made it but stuff came up, and
>> > > husband wanted to eat right away so I just bought sauce when I
>> > > went to the store. Expensive sauce. Not the most expensive I
>> > > have bought but it was $4.99 for the two pizzas. Theirs has a
>> > > combination of Western Family (cheap) mozzarella and a small
>> > > amount of leftover medium priced, mixed Italian cheeses and some
>> > > very expensive, uncured pepperoni. Mine has Daiya (dairy free)
>> > > cheese, red onion, fresh tomato slices and pine nuts.
>> >
>> > I use the weekends and make pizza sauce that is better than the jar.
>> > If you used the whole 4.99 jar on just 2 pizzas, theyd be swimming
>> > in sauce so much you'd have to eat it with a spoon..
>>
>> Not true at all. The jar was small. I like a lot of sauce. They
>> don't. Occurred to me later that I should have bought another jar
>> because I like to dip my pizza in it as well.
>
>
> Seriously? Ok, to make 16oz sauce, add 35 cents.
>
>
>> >
>> > At the most sloppy pizza, you'd get 4 to 6 pizzas from that jar.
>> > Me, I take 1.50 (BOGO) worth of 28 oz cans, spice and reduce them
>> > for a really better sauce than I can buy. I start with 48 oz there
>> > and reduce to about 32 and make some spagetti with 12 oz of it then
>> > reduce the rest to a serious thick pizza sauce that peaks when
>> > stirred and use that for pizza. For about 1.70 (includes price of
>> > spices) I get 4 pizzas and a big pot of spagetti.
>>
>> Nope. This jar wasn't anywhere near that big. It was the San
>> Marzano kind. As I said... I didn't have time to reduce a sauce.
>> And we don't often eat spaghetti. That is not planned at all in the
>> coming week so didn't need any more sauce. None of us are big on
>> pasta.
>
> Ok above you needed more sauce and here you don't and you do not add a
> jar size. How about come back when you want to talk about cooking or
> saving money because I am over this thread.
That didn't even make sense. Let me see if I can find the jar online. I am
>
>> >
>> > At the most sloppy pizza, you'd get 4 to 6 pizzas from that jar.
>> > Me, I take 1.50 (BOGO) worth of 28 oz cans, spice and reduce them
>> > for a really better sauce than I can buy. I start with 48 oz there
>> > and reduce to about 32 and make some spagetti with 12 oz of it then
>> > reduce the rest to a serious thick pizza sauce that peaks when
>> > stirred and use that for pizza. For about 1.70 (includes price of
>> > spices) I get 4 pizzas and a big pot of spagetti.
>>
>> Nope. This jar wasn't anywhere near that big. It was the San
>> Marzano kind. As I said... I didn't have time to reduce a sauce.
>> And we don't often eat spaghetti. That is not planned at all in the
>> coming week so didn't need any more sauce. None of us are big on
>> pasta.
>
> Ok above you needed more sauce and here you don't and you do not add a
> jar size. How about come back when you want to talk about cooking or
> saving money because I am over this thread.
not going to dig through the recycle. 14 oz. I did not go back for extra
sauce. I would have loved to have had some for dipping but... Oh well!
And I wish that you would be over this thread. You are being very
patronizing. You also can not tell me where and when I can post. And this
thread wasn't about saving money. It was about the high prices of the one
store.
always, you assumed something that simply wasn't true. I don't want or need
to listen to you because of the way you speak to people. And it wasn't just
me! You did it to that other guy who is even older than me and been cooking
for longer. You just assume that we are stupid and need help.
You claim to have been in the military so you would *have* to know that food
prices and situations are different, depending on where you live. When I
lived in NY, I could get bell peppers for dirt cheap year round. Some other
veggies were super cheap too so we ate a lot of them. And for as much as I
love bell peppers they are never as cheap here nor were they when I lived in
CA. In fact they are often far more expensive. So we eat far less of them.
Julie Bove
May 25, 2015, 6:41:12 PM5/25/15
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Well there you go. Your prices are clearly much less than they are here.
The cheapest I have seen soda anywhere here was at Haggen and it was $2.47
with a coupon, limit of 3. I had no way of getting another coupon so I
couldn't go back for more.
The going sale prices around here are usually 3 or 4 for $11 or $12. I did
get Pepsi at 3 for $10. I didn't buy too much though as it will go bad and
I won't drink it. I don't know what you are buying that is 10/$10. That may
or may not be a good deal.
The cheapest I have seen soda anywhere here was at Haggen and it was $2.47
with a coupon, limit of 3. I had no way of getting another coupon so I
couldn't go back for more.
The going sale prices around here are usually 3 or 4 for $11 or $12. I did
get Pepsi at 3 for $10. I didn't buy too much though as it will go bad and
I won't drink it. I don't know what you are buying that is 10/$10. That may
or may not be a good deal.
Julie Bove
May 25, 2015, 6:42:01 PM5/25/15
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to go through a case of tomatoes.
Julie Bove
May 25, 2015, 6:43:20 PM5/25/15
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I would have no place to store such a bag and since I am pretty much the
only person that eats the bread that I bake, the flour would surely go
rancid before I used it up. I also do not think it is that cheap here.
only person that eats the bread that I bake, the flour would surely go
rancid before I used it up. I also do not think it is that cheap here.
Julie Bove
May 25, 2015, 6:44:41 PM5/25/15
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In your opinion it is good. The bread that I make takes many hours. Not 5
minutes and as I have said many times before, I do not like bread from a
bread machine.
minutes and as I have said many times before, I do not like bread from a
bread machine.
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